[0:00] All

[0:05] » right, we call the meeting to order.

[0:07] Would you please join me in the pledge

[0:09] of allegiance?

[0:12] >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the

[0:15] United States of America and to the

[0:17] republic for which it stands, one nation

[0:20] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:24] justice for all. Amen.

[0:31] Hi. Would you please take the role?

[0:33] >> Mayor Greavves

[0:34] >> here.

[0:35] >> Councilman Coffman.

[0:38] >> Councilman Perkins.

[0:40] >> Councilman Dix

[0:41] >> here.

[0:42] Councilman Evans

[0:43] >> here.

[0:47] » All right. you have before you an

[0:48] agenda. Um, under new business, we're

[0:52] going to strike item number four because

[0:54] of the number of voting body members. We

[0:58] can't act on that tonight with two two

[1:01] people gone because you will have to not

[1:03] take part. So,

[1:06] um, we'll just strike that, move it to

[1:08] next month

[1:10] or if we have a need for a special

[1:12] meeting, we'll address it then. But I

[1:13] mean

[1:15] to just strike that and so everything

[1:17] below it would just then scoot up and

[1:19] become the proper numeric order. Other

[1:22] than that are there any changes?

[1:27] » Hearing none I would entertain a motion

[1:28] to approve the agenda as amended. Moved

[1:31] >> second moved and seconded. All in favor

[1:34] signify by saying I.

[1:35] >> I post same sign. Motion will carry.

[1:40] For the purpose of discussion, I would

[1:42] entertain a motion to approve and place

[1:44] to record the consent agenda items.

[1:46] >> So moved.

[1:47] >> Second.

[1:48] >> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

[1:49] discussion on any consent agenda items?

[2:01] » Was pretty straightforward this month. I

[2:04] >> agreed.

[2:06] >> All right. All in favor signify by

[2:08] saying I. I

[2:09] >> oppose. Same sign. Motion will carry.

[2:14] Moving on to petitions, memorials,

[2:16] proclamations, and public comment. Item

[2:18] number one is the Wyoming community gas

[2:20] check.

[2:22] We have a couple of ladies in the office

[2:25] that have worked very diligently with

[2:26] this. And now we get to reap the

[2:29] benefits of their hard work.

[2:35] We appreciate the effort that they put

[2:37] into it.

[2:39] Let me get around since there's three of

[2:41] you.

[2:42] >> Feel free.

[2:45] to stand right there.

[2:50] » Thank you guys for your work, your

[2:51] effort. I mean, this this doesn't go

[2:54] unnoticed and we use it for great things

[2:56] for the public and the youth. And thank

[2:58] you very much. And for those of you that

[3:00] don't know, the Wyoming Community Gas,

[3:02] they do the work and get the member sign

[3:04] up and Wyoming Community Gas will give

[3:06] us kickback and And this year it's

[3:08] $10,258.33.

[3:14] » Historically, we've used this money for

[3:16] things like completion of the miniature

[3:18] golf course. Um the dog park at Daringer

[3:21] Park.

[3:22] >> Um

[3:22] >> soccer nets.

[3:23] for Lewis Park.

[3:26] >> Um

[3:27] >> yeah, the pickle ball court, concrete,

[3:29] lighting, and I mean park improvements,

[3:31] benches.

[3:33] I mean, it's it's you don't want to say

[3:35] it's free money because there's a lot of

[3:36] effort that goes into getting it, but it does a lot for us and and their

[3:41] efforts need to be commended for for

[3:43] chasing that and getting that for us

[3:45] because they broke the $10,000 plane two

[3:47] or three years ago and they've held it

[3:48] there. And this has varied from a few

[3:51] thousand to this is about as good as

[3:53] it's been. I mean, this is right at the

[3:55] top mark. So, thank you for your

[3:57] diligence and your hard work.

[4:00] What did we earmark this one for this

[4:02] year?

[4:02] >> Or have we yet?

[4:03] >> Park.

[4:05] >> Playground equipment upgrades

[4:07] >> and uh walkway.

[4:08] >> Oh, yeah. The walkway convert.

[4:13] >> Convert some of that old asphalt walkway

[4:15] to concrete.

[4:17] As as much as $10,000.

[4:31] With no other agenda items, are there

[4:33] any public comments at this time?

[4:40] Seeing none, we'll move on to unfinished

[4:43] business. And there is none. So, we'll

[4:45] just shoot straight to new business.

[4:47] Item number one is an IT contract. And

[4:50] uh we have we have two bids

[4:55] and

[4:57] I don't know I'm not 100% certain that

[5:00] maybe we did the best job or due

[5:02] diligence in presenting the information

[5:05] to obtain the bids because I have some thoughts that those bids are like

[5:11] almost in two separate ball fields. It's hard to compare and contrast

[5:16] because I maybe it's just two different

[5:18] angles or two different thoughts, but

[5:20] give me some opinions here, guys.

[5:22] >> Mr. Mayor, I I uh going through all the

[5:24] contracts and and looking detail by detail. I have four pages of

[5:30] questions and I would suggest tonight

[5:32] that we table this until we can get some

[5:34] things answered. Um, again, this is

[5:37] looking at to me, this is looking at two

[5:39] totally different play uh playing

[5:41] levels. And without those questions

[5:44] answered, I'm not I personally am not

[5:46] okay with voting the public's money on

[5:48] an IT contract when we truly don't know

[5:51] what we're getting in a couple of ways.

[5:53] So I I would

[5:59] » and having done the same thing and

[6:00] looking things over and talking to

[6:02] different entities and I think we need

[6:05] some more in depth.

[6:08] >> I think I think we have some work to do

[6:10] on our end and then pitch it back out to

[6:12] the the guys to give them a fair shake

[6:14] because at this point I I think we've

[6:15] done nothing but maybe muddy the waters

[6:17] is my concern.

[6:18] >> I I would agree.

[6:19] >> So I second on Jason's motion.

[6:21] >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Is

[6:23] there any further discussion

[6:26] hearing? None. All in favor signify by

[6:28] saying I.

[6:29] >> I.

[6:30] >> Motion will carry to table it

[6:33] with more to come.

[6:38] Item number two is uh the condry and

[6:41] associates agreement.

[7:13] This 110 page document that Tabla sent

[7:16] me makes it real easy to find. You're

[7:19] welcome, guys.

[7:22] » Mine was only six pages.

[7:28] » You still get the paper.

[7:29] >> I get a paper.

[7:31] >> Us old guys do that that way.

[7:32] >> Oh, is that what it is?

[7:37] » Tabitha, what can you tell us about

[7:38] this?

[7:40] Or you mean just so it's just a contract

[7:43] to update the um the wage survey that we

[7:47] did a couple years ago so that we get PD

[7:49] where they they are needed. That's

[7:51] right.

[7:52] >> Remember they were going to sergeants

[7:54] and corporals and stuff like that. So we

[7:57] just thought instead of trying to do it

[7:58] ourselves go back out to where we did

[8:01] they said that they would it it's not

[8:03] going to cost as much like last year.

[8:05] The last time we did it was $40,000.

[8:09] This is just an update.

[8:11] >> Or something.

[8:15] » 45.

[8:16] >> And this is it's like an update to get

[8:18] us keep us current with current pay

[8:20] scales and wage tables and all that

[8:22] rather than a complete build.

[8:24] >> I would move that we uh sign this

[8:27] agreement and go forth with the uh wage

[8:29] stud.

[8:32] >> Could I before you do anything? The only

[8:35] problem I had and Tabitha told me that

[8:37] they do almost everything by Zoom

[8:40] internet is if they if you ask them to

[8:43] come out they're going to charge it to

[8:45] come out

[8:47] >> and I don't know where they travel to or

[8:49] from or anything. Just so you're aware

[8:51] >> they're from Virginia. So

[8:52] >> So just so you're aware you ask them to

[8:54] come out they're gonna

[8:58] >> I think the last time you did it on

[9:00] >> I was going to say is there any real

[9:02] reason that we need them here? I'm just

[9:04] telling you that if they do then they

[9:06] have extra charges above the 145.

[9:09] >> Well, last time we did it all zoom and

[9:12] it was a way newer technology then it is

[9:14] now. I mean people readily use it all

[9:17] the time now.

[9:18] >> You want to I I can show you how to

[9:19] zoom. We can zoom.

[9:20] >> I zoom a lot. I tell you I am confident

[9:23] in that area.

[9:25] >> We can talk about your new pedestal. I

[9:26] want to come put in

[9:29] >> All right.

[9:29] >> I can do it ON MY PHONE.

[9:31] >> WHAT?

[9:31] >> YEAH.

[9:33] All right.

[9:35] >> All right. It's been moved and seconded

[9:36] to agree with and execute signature of

[9:40] the memorandum of agreement with with

[9:42] Condre and Associates for the wage

[9:44] study. All in favor signify by saying I.

[9:46] >> I.

[9:47] >> Oppose. Same sign. Motion will carry.

[9:50] >> The next one looks like this. And then

[9:53] the next one you have a uh engagement

[9:55] letter for our fiscal year 26 audit with

[9:58] the same organization that's been doing

[10:00] audits for us for last several years.

[10:06] Would entertain a motion to sign the

[10:09] engagement letter for the fiscal year 26

[10:11] audit.

[10:12] >> So moved.

[10:14] >> Okay. Second.

[10:15] It's

[10:16] >> been moved and seconded. Is there any

[10:17] further discussion?

[10:20] Uh hearing none. All in favor signify by

[10:23] saying I.

[10:24] >> I.

[10:25] >> Same sign. That motion will carry.

[10:28] And then uh we have a notice to proceed.

[10:31] It's for the airport seal coat and

[10:33] marking

[10:35] um project which is just kind of finish

[10:39] up with some loose ends and stuff out at

[10:40] the airport. So I would entertain a

[10:43] motion to authorize signature for the

[10:46] seal coat and mark project. So moved.

[10:50] >> Second. Is there any further discussion?

[10:53] Hearing none, all in favor signify by

[10:55] saying I.

[10:56] >> I.

[10:57] >> Motion carries. And then you have

[11:01] discussion piece in front of you. It's

[11:04] titled Star Max. It's for uh a cleaning

[11:08] service to come in and and do

[11:11] very deep clean of the entire movie

[11:14] theater. the all the screens in the

[11:18] auditoriums and the sound folds and the

[11:20] drapes and the chairs and the carpet and

[11:22] everything. Um Curtis, you want to speak

[11:24] to any of that? I mean, you're here. You

[11:26] have the opportunity.

[11:28] >> So,

[11:32] um yeah, Curtis Hopro, we run the the

[11:36] movie theater here in town. Um and we've

[11:39] been looking uh I I don't pretend to

[11:41] know all of the ins and outs of the

[11:43] screen. I am a whole lot better with the

[11:45] projector itself. Um, but when we when

[11:48] we took over running the movie theater,

[11:50] the first thing that CICO told us is

[11:53] don't touch the screen because if you

[11:55] touch it, the dust moves and then it

[11:58] looks weird and all of those things. So,

[12:00] we've been looking into some different

[12:03] companies that do that high level

[12:06] cleaning. Um, they can get clear up to

[12:08] the top of those those sound drapes on

[12:11] the sides of the walls.

[12:13] um on the north side uh where before we took over operation of the

[12:18] theater, the the roof had leaked. They

[12:20] replaced the roof. There's there's a

[12:23] little bit of water damage on some of

[12:24] those drapes. I I sent these guys

[12:27] pictures of all of that and they said

[12:29] that they could take care of it. We've

[12:31] gotten as high as we can standing on a

[12:34] ladder and as high as I comfortable

[12:38] going with our little portable carpet

[12:40] cleaner that we have.

[12:42] Um, this also includes um all of the

[12:46] every seat, the cleaning of the fabric

[12:48] that's on the seats. Um, and all of the

[12:52] plastic and then they put a protective

[12:55] coating on it to keep uh from getting

[12:58] additional scuff marks or additional

[13:02] stains on fabric.

[13:04] Um we did um

[13:08] and that you you have it in front of

[13:11] you, but we'd look we'd be be looking at

[13:12] the cost of $1,495.

[13:15] Um this is the the company out of

[13:19] Chesterfield, Missouri is the closest

[13:21] one that we could find. When we reached

[13:24] out and talked to other theaters, larger

[13:27] theaters, uh different things, they

[13:30] everybody pointed back to these guys.

[13:34] Who ever had this done before?

[13:36] >> Not that I'm aware of. If it's if it was

[13:38] done, it was well before

[13:40] >> prior to us.

[13:41] So, I know it hasn't been

[13:43] done in the last four years. This

[13:45] company recommends that you do it about

[13:47] every three to four. So, it's it's

[13:50] probably high time. We may find some new

[13:53] colors in those murals

[13:55] once once they get to get everything off

[13:58] of them. But, uh I just this is

[14:01] something that I think uh important to,

[14:04] you know, protect those seats are not

[14:06] the most comfortable things on the

[14:07] planet, but barring having the money to

[14:11] completely replace them, protecting what

[14:13] we do have there, uh, is important.

[14:20] » Well, how long you keep it closed for

[14:22] when they come in?

[14:24] >> What's that? Oh, we are uh we've talked

[14:26] to them. We're trying to schedule this

[14:28] on the days that we're closed on Monday.

[14:30] It should take them about two two and a

[14:32] half days. So if they start on a Monday

[14:34] morning, they should be done by the time

[14:36] we would have a Wednesday evening uh

[14:38] show. So we shouldn't have to be closed

[14:40] to the public more than what we the

[14:43] Monday Tuesday we already are. So

[14:47] » I think it's a good idea.

[14:48] >> Yeah, I think I think it's I think it's

[14:50] a great idea. And I I will say, you

[14:52] know, through the budget process and

[14:54] stuff, they didn't didn't come at us

[14:55] this year with a big long lengthy list.

[14:57] They're they're realistic and they're

[14:59] being good stewards of of a town home

[15:02] facility and trying to provide an

[15:04] opportunity for for our small town. So,

[15:07] I would have no heartburn in in cleaning

[15:09] it up and getting rid of the dust and and

[15:12] helping them achieve a financial success

[15:15] and and you know, doing our part for a

[15:18] town building. I I'm perfectly on board

[15:20] with it.

[15:20] >> I'm looking forward to seeing your book

[15:21] called Over the Curtains.

[15:24] If we do this, then that'll give Curtis

[15:25] more time to research cheaper popcorn.

[15:28] >> Cheaper popcorn. I like that. I like

[15:30] that.

[15:31] >> I got to tell you, I kind of I really

[15:33] like my popcorn.

[15:35] >> I know.

[15:35] >> I I ate a lot of really really really

[15:38] bad popcorn building up to the this. So,

[15:41] I don't want to go back there.

[15:43] >> I commented to him the other day. He

[15:45] said, you know, with the drought, he

[15:46] said the popping corn variety of corn

[15:49] being raised is a little tougher to get.

[15:50] The price is going to go up. Yep. Yeah,

[15:52] that's what he said in the meeting we

[15:53] had. That was

[15:55] >> Luckily, we we have not seen that price

[15:57] increase. Um I was afraid we would with

[15:59] the fires in Nebraska. Um it was my

[16:02] understanding and from talking to to the

[16:04] guys on the farm that that fire came up

[16:07] and took out several of their fields,

[16:09] >> but we have not seen that price increase

[16:12] passed on to us yet. So,

[16:14] >> we're we're we're good right now.

[16:17] >> Exactly. So,

[16:18] >> I think it's a great idea and I would

[16:20] move that we uh allow this to happen.

[16:23] >> Second.

[16:24] >> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

[16:26] any further discussion on uh StarMax LLC

[16:30] cleaning up theater?

[16:33] >> Hearing none. All in favor signify by

[16:34] saying I

[16:35] >> I oppose. Same sign. Motion will carry.

[16:39] >> Thank you, gentlemen. Wonder look better

[16:42] up there.

[16:44] >> It's Kevin. How good can he look?

[16:49] Um, next item up is uh the Axon

[16:53] agreement for the police department. And

[16:55] I see the chief's here. You want to you

[16:57] want to add anything to this discussion?

[16:59] >> I can briefly add a little bit. So

[17:03] the contract increased a little bit

[17:05] during uh the discussion with the the

[17:10] company versus from what I uh gave you

[17:13] guys in the budget meetings. The reason

[17:15] for that is there was some software

[17:18] differences that weren't added that we

[17:20] were told were going to be added. And

[17:22] then I did not, and this was on me, I

[17:25] did not put the fourth vehicle that we

[17:27] have at Arch to be built. I did not buy

[17:31] a new camera and get that set up with

[17:32] that. So there's the adjustments for

[17:34] that was we have a fourth car that we

[17:37] have to get a camera for. Um

[17:40] the the differences are going to be

[17:43] covered through salaries. I mean, we're

[17:45] going to have at least probably two

[17:46] months worth of salaries that are going

[17:48] to be two positions that aren't going to

[17:50] be filled. So, the cost should work

[17:53] itself out in the budget for the

[17:55] differences.

[18:01] » Brad, this is a

[18:03] an addition for the people here. I know

[18:06] we've talked about it a few times. um

[18:08] with this Axon program. This is covers a

[18:12] heck of a lot of liability things,

[18:14] covers a heck of a lot of safety things.

[18:16] So, this is a 10-year contract with

[18:18] Axon. So, we're going to be set for the

[18:19] next 10 years on and it's going to cover

[18:22] all of our body cam warn cameras, all of

[18:24] our incar cameras. Um, it's VR virtual

[18:28] reality training that we're going to be

[18:29] able to use with both the taser, pistol

[18:33] platform, and a rifle platform that we

[18:35] can do in-house training, virtual

[18:37] reality, two officer response type

[18:40] things. Um, again, that's all covered

[18:43] through a 10-year contract with

[18:46] replacement upgrades. The body cameras

[18:48] are upgraded every couple of years. The

[18:50] incar cameras are covered every couple

[18:52] of years. It includes what is called

[18:54] LPR, which is a license plate reader um

[18:57] that is connected into the incar cameras

[18:59] that reads the license plates will

[19:01] identify stolen vehicles uh ATL vehicles

[19:05] meaning like suicidal subject missing

[19:08] people those types of things they'll

[19:10] give us an alert through the camera

[19:11] system so I mean it's a a lot of

[19:14] technology it's not just one thing with

[19:16] the tasers I mean it covers all of our

[19:18] brand new tasers we'll get brand new

[19:20] tasers for the next 10 years um it

[19:22] covers all of our uh cartridges that we

[19:25] have. So, it's a lot wrapped up into the

[19:29] contract.

[19:37] » And this does this include that uh

[19:39] translation that we talked about?

[19:41] >> It does. So, with our bodywn cameras, we

[19:43] have it where we can translate uh 56

[19:47] languages and it's all recorded through

[19:49] that all AI AI technology. Um, there's a program that I was informed about that

[19:55] we already have, excuse me, that I can

[19:58] upload our department,

[20:01] excuse me, our department policies into

[20:04] it. We can put the bond schedules into

[20:06] it. We put state statute, town

[20:08] ordinance, all up into that. An officer

[20:10] can click a button, say, "Hey, what's

[20:11] the town ordinance for paraphernalia?"

[20:14] And it'll read off the statute or the

[20:16] ordinance and tell us the bond and

[20:17] everything. Wow. So, it's a lot. There's

[20:22] a lot. It's a uh there's a feature to it

[20:25] where it'll basically transcribe

[20:29] the body warn camera into a report form.

[20:32] Y

[20:32] >> and then the officer has to read through

[20:34] it and make changes. There's required

[20:36] changes that you have to do to it. So

[20:38] you're actually reviewing the report to

[20:40] make sure the information that's in it

[20:41] is correct.

[20:43] So I mean it's going to save time on

[20:45] reports. It's going to make accuracy on

[20:47] reports.

[20:49] Okay.

[20:51] Brad, I just the quote says it expires

[20:54] 7126

[20:56] 26. Are they extending that?

[21:01] » No, it's a 10ear contract.

[21:04] >> Oh, expires.

[21:06] >> Yeah, they

[21:08] covered.

[21:10] >> This is the one that they provided with

[21:11] me and then I just sign I'll have to

[21:13] sign that contract and send back

[21:21] Okay.

[21:25] I make a motion that we approve this act

[21:28] on agreement

[21:31] >> and authorized Brad to sign it.

[21:34] >> Second

[21:36] move and seconded. Is there any other

[21:38] discussion

[21:40] hearing? None. All in favor signify by

[21:42] saying I.

[21:43] >> I.

[21:46] Same sign. It covers cartridges. Gary

[21:49] Lochman said he'd like to try it once.

[21:53] >> Pick me.

[21:54] >> I have a waiver that we can find some

[21:57] recommended. I let him do it to me once.

[21:59] It wasn't fun.

[22:02] >> All right.

[22:04] And the last item under new business

[22:06] will be uh a discussion um on a contract

[22:11] for a building for the police department

[22:13] at 1302 9th Street.

[22:27] Doug, what is your input here?

[22:30] >> Well, I sent you guys a letter. Um,

[22:33] that's an old building and I think

[22:35] probably before you make an offer, I I

[22:38] know Sarah drafted the offer.

[22:42] from my perspective and for the town's

[22:44] perspective. I think you should ask for

[22:46] permission to do the inspections prior

[22:48] to that. Um and then actually you don't

[22:52] have much time in the contract to do the

[22:54] inspections but it gives you time to get

[22:57] and no offense to contractor but some

[22:59] qualified people to inspect that

[23:00] building inspect the the systems in that

[23:04] building do some asbestous either phase

[23:07] one is it phase one and two or phase

[23:09] three

[23:10] >> those sorts because I can tell you that

[23:12] building's older than I am

[23:14] >> really damn and that's pretty damn old.

[23:18] It was built right after Lar,

[23:22] >> maybe even before.

[23:24] But anyway, um and the example I use is

[23:29] if you remember that gas station in the

[23:31] motel across from uh Tasty Treats,

[23:35] >> they covered that because that outside

[23:38] stuckle was all was

[23:41] >> asbestous.

[23:42] >> And so you just don't want to buy

[23:45] something that you don't know everything

[23:46] about is my theory. I mean, it's

[23:49] ultimately your choice, but that's my

[23:51] biggest concern is all the systems. It's

[23:54] a pretty old building. And then um make

[23:57] sure you you know what you're buying and

[24:00] then you can make an offer saying here

[24:02] are the conditions and here's what you

[24:03] need to do.

[24:17] Yeah, I'd be interested to hear what

[24:19] anyone else has to say as well.

[24:21] >> Yeah. Is there any other comment at this

[24:23] time? Is there what's what's reasonable

[24:27] and customary there, realtor?

[24:29] >> Hi. So, in the contract, it's written

[24:32] that you're able to do you have a period

[24:34] of inspections. You can do any

[24:35] inspections that you would like to do as

[24:36] long as you're willing to pay for them.

[24:38] And you have a period to get that done.

[24:40] You can ask for repairs from the seller.

[24:43] does not agree to your

[24:45] repairs request, you can back out. So,

[24:49] you're not stuck in a contract with

[24:52] repairs that need to be done. So, if you

[24:54] find that there are catastrophic issues

[24:56] with property, you can back up.

[25:02] » And if it's not, if you feel like it's

[25:05] you guys feel like there's not an

[25:06] adequate amount of time, there's a few

[25:08] weeks open. So, if that doesn't feel

[25:10] like an adequate amount of time,

[25:15] But this uh Sarah, correct me if I'm

[25:17] wrong. This sets us up to where we kind

[25:20] of have our thumb on it at that point,

[25:23] right? And so if someone were to come in

[25:25] or whatever, we have our thumb there.

[25:28] >> Correct.

[25:29] >> If they accept your offer, there would

[25:31] be earnest money put up and they would

[25:33] not be able to accept other offers.

[25:34] >> Okay.

[25:35] >> Procedures. It's

[25:37] >> like buying a house. You go in, you get

[25:38] the inspections done after you make an

[25:40] offer. You got all the inspections done.

[25:41] Yeah, exactly.

[25:42] >> Negotiations take place, the prices.

[25:44] >> I just want it out in the open. Exactly

[25:46] what that looks like.

[25:46] >> Yeah, that's what I assume. This is just

[25:48] like that because having bought a couple

[25:51] houses traveling around the world,

[25:54] >> there's contingencies for financing and

[25:57] contingencies for repairs. So,

[26:00] inspections come up.

[26:03] >> I can tell you don't have enough time

[26:04] for the inspections.

[26:06] You have a month basically less than a

[26:09] month and you won't get all the inctions

[26:13] by appropriate people.

[26:19] » Is that negoti negotiable?

[26:21] >> We haven't made an offer.

[26:22] >> Yeah, absolutely. You can you can write

[26:25] in any amount of time that you would

[26:27] like for inspection.

[26:29] So, however much time you guys think

[26:31] part of it is I don't know who you want

[26:34] for inspectors. Most that I work with or

[26:40] testing lead testing which usually can

[26:44] be done within a couple weeks.

[26:48] I haven't had a lot of issues getting

[26:49] this package but I also don't know

[26:56] government building is new to me so work

[26:57] with me on this one.

[26:59] >> Well, we're not we the offer that you

[27:02] sent out we're not giving up the full

[27:05] asking price either.

[27:10] And you probably can't tell me this, but

[27:11] is that a hot commodity?

[27:13] >> Uh, there has been the the listing agent

[27:16] disclosed. There were people looking at

[27:18] it even today. So, there are interested

[27:20] buyers,

[27:22] >> but that's

[27:24] of

[27:37] your concern. I I truly do. And believe

[27:39] me, I I don't want to buy a lemon, but I

[27:42] also want to make sure we're not missing

[27:44] out on a very

[27:47] usable piece of property as well

[27:49] >> for a decent price.

[27:52] >> Today's market,

[27:53] >> the acreage, the building, there's a lot

[27:56] there that

[27:56] >> right,

[27:57] >> you know, have haven't walked through

[27:58] with the chief

[28:00] >> and the growth potential even to

[28:02] mitigate some of the stuff that we have

[28:03] right now would be immense.

[28:06] Um,

[28:16] » we have five minutes. Bring us to the

[28:17] podium.

[28:18] >> Just one man's opinion, Willie Allison.

[28:21] Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. As

[28:24] I recall, you know, the three years and

[28:26] two months I was on, we were looking at

[28:29] the old Laram Ford dealership over there

[28:32] on South South Street. We looked at

[28:35] another building over there on Mariposa.

[28:39] We had a chance to get lock trucking.

[28:42] And don't get me wrong, I came here in

[28:44] 83. That building was poss.

[29:00] Thank you.

[29:05] Dave,

[29:09] » um,

[29:11] does a town really need more property

[29:13] when there are buildable

[29:15] acres that the town already owns?

[29:20] Um, building that they're currently in

[29:23] has been a problem for 20 years.

[29:27] and

[29:29] you're walking into the same type of

[29:31] situation where if you're going to

[29:33] rebuild a complete building again, why

[29:35] not just build a new building?

[29:39] And there is property within the town

[29:41] that you could put a building on that

[29:43] the town already owns,

[29:46] make work.

[29:48] My opinion

[29:55] And I know that

[29:58] being on the committee for uh the new PD

[30:01] wherever um we have looked at building a

[30:04] new building. The problem is it's you

[30:07] know we're going to have to go to a

[30:11] six penny tax type of situation to get

[30:13] to it. Um,

[30:17] the building across the street was a

[30:19] band-aid when they moved them in there

[30:21] and it's still

[30:24] held up kind of and right now it's to

[30:27] the point where it's trash. It's it's

[30:30] gone. Um,

[30:34] I understand uh we've looked at at

[30:37] custom build for this police department.

[30:42] Um, like I said, it's it's six, seven

[30:44] million bucks and Yeah. Yeah.

[30:48] >> Taj Mahal.

[30:50] >> And that's not a Taj Mahal.

[30:51] >> That is not a Taj Mahal. And I can tell

[30:54] you for the the square footage of that

[30:57] building down there, plus the land and

[30:59] everything with it. Um, it blows that

[31:02] 6,7 million out of the water. um for the

[31:05] simple fact you could go in there and

[31:06] put a million dollars into it and have

[31:08] exactly what you want versus uh what was

[31:12] the one we were looking at? It was like

[31:14] 10 12,000 square foot. The one that we

[31:18] were having.

[31:20] >> So custom build.

[31:21] >> Yeah.

[31:21] >> We were going to be able to do 8,000

[31:23] square feet for the custom build.

[31:25] >> Yes.

[31:28] >> So that's where we're kind of stuck

[31:29] between that rock and that hard place.

[31:31] We're like, there's some land around.

[31:33] There's a few things. We actually looked

[31:35] at a piece of land and uh offered on it.

[31:38] They decided they didn't want to get rid

[31:39] of it. Um and then trying to find a, you

[31:43] know, a a suitable location, I guess. Um

[31:47] for this building is another thing we've

[31:50] had to jump through over and over.

[31:55] Um, it looks like Tiffany Lane just

[31:59] commented, wanted to comment and she

[32:01] said, "Why doesn't the town look at

[32:03] spending money to fix the current

[32:05] building?" I know that the county fixed

[32:08] the Coleman building HVAC system for

[32:10] 200k seems a lot cheaper.

[32:16] » As far as fixing the current building,

[32:18] for one, they've outgrown it. There are

[32:20] regulations, and Chief, if I'm

[32:22] misspeaking, please step into this.

[32:24] There are regulations for evidence,

[32:26] things like that that we currently

[32:28] couldn't do even if we wanted to with

[32:30] the building we're currently in. Um,

[32:33] with the regulations written the way

[32:34] they are, and with the storage of

[32:37] evidence and things like that, you know,

[32:39] certain square footage or certain air

[32:41] movement, there's things like that that

[32:42] we have to do. I mean, you you you want

[32:45] to talk about chrome wheels on a dump

[32:47] truck, that's exactly what that would

[32:49] be.

[32:50] >> Well, and then the other complicating

[32:52] factor of that building is all of the

[32:54] heating, air conditioning, duct work is

[32:56] under the concrete slab and it's all

[32:59] collapsed. So, the band-aids or the

[33:01] lipstick on the pig, if you will, that

[33:03] we've done as we've thrown roof mount

[33:04] stuff on it to try to get by and keep

[33:06] using the building. So you you can't

[33:10] even make a solid argument that you've

[33:12] got good bones over there to reconstruct

[33:14] because you really don't.

[33:17] >> We really have kicked the can down the

[33:19] road one too many times with that

[33:20] building. We really have.

[33:23] >> I don't know that this is a perfect

[33:25] solution, but it is one worth

[33:27] discussing.

[33:34] And Billy, I take your point. I walked

[33:37] through the building a couple of times.

[33:38] I walked around the exterior of the

[33:39] building. I walked through the parking

[33:40] lot. Um I spent a lot of time looking at

[33:44] this

[33:46] and we have to be cognizant of how much

[33:48] money we're spending. Absolutely. And

[33:50] how much lipstick we want to put in a

[33:51] pig

[33:53] because at the end of the day, we want

[33:55] to make sure it's going to be something

[33:56] where we can stay for indefinite period

[33:58] of time. It's going to meet the

[33:59] requirements of our PD of the

[34:01] evidentiary requirements that we have

[34:04] including climate control and everything

[34:06] else. we cannot get in our current

[34:07] building. Um,

[34:10] but I think looking at and getting the

[34:12] qualified inspectors in to do a

[34:14] qualified inspection of the building

[34:17] doesn't mean we're buying the building.

[34:18] It means we know what we're getting or

[34:20] we know we're not going to get

[34:23] because at that point in time we can

[34:24] kind of no that's

[34:27] you're not going to be able to fix that

[34:28] much and we're not going to be willing

[34:29] to pay for that much. I think it's

[34:32] something that we can at least take a

[34:33] look at realistically, get the proper

[34:36] inspections done on it, and then make an

[34:38] intelligent decision from there. Because

[34:40] right now, you know, I don't work on

[34:42] emotion.

[34:44] I look at things very analytically and

[34:45] what's going to be better, you know,

[34:46] best for this community. And we've

[34:49] looked around town. We've had offers on

[34:51] different things. Even the old junior

[34:52] high was thrown out to us. But who wants

[34:54] a PD right in the middle of housing

[34:57] >> and in that building, too?

[34:58] >> No. Nobody wants that.

[34:59] >> Talk about problems. Yeah.

[35:01] >> So, they were going to tear down the

[35:02] building and give us the land to build.

[35:04] >> Yeah. We've looked at all these

[35:06] different aspect of things. We

[35:07] considered them, but

[35:08] >> what's best for the community and

[35:09] where's the best place to put a PD?

[35:12] >> Oh, most of it. Sorry.

[35:14] >> No, you go ahead.

[35:15] >> Most definitely. You know, and I what I

[35:18] was just bringing up, you know, that we

[35:20] did look at Laramie Peak before the

[35:22] county had to move out of the

[35:23] courthouse.

[35:24] >> They put a boatload of money into fixing

[35:26] the office area in Laramie Peak or the

[35:30] Ford dealership and

[35:33] which would have suited our fancy would

[35:35] have helped out PD. Don't get me wrong,

[35:38] I'm not against PD getting a bigger

[35:40] building by no means,

[35:42] but also lock trucking was offered to us

[35:45] also, but there again, back in that day,

[35:49] we didn't have

[35:51] the money

[35:53] >> to throw out there because we had water

[35:55] tower and we had 16th Street going at

[35:57] the same time.

[35:58] >> Absolutely.

[36:00] We were kind of

[36:02] strapped.

[36:03] >> Oh, we're still there.

[36:04] >> Well, and then, oh, I forgot we had the

[36:07] ladder truck had also. But no, by no

[36:11] means, you know, I just think there's a

[36:13] better building

[36:16] than the old Chevrolet place down there.

[36:20] you know those baywood those windows on

[36:23] outside of the office area

[36:27] going to take a lot.

[36:30] >> What is the asking price for the

[36:32] building?

[36:33] >> What the 500,000 do I think?

[36:35] >> Okay. And are inspections included or is

[36:39] there in you have that in the budget? I

[36:42] mean if you don't buy it you and we're

[36:44] going to spend some money for

[36:45] inspections that's all covered.

[36:46] >> Yeah. I mean yeah we that's inherent

[36:49] risk. We know that, but we also want to

[36:51] try to make sure we know what we're

[36:54] getting. Yeah, we're up against.

[36:57] >> Yeah. We don't want to put them in a

[36:59] junior high by no no means business.

[37:02] >> Well, no. Even the whole thing the

[37:03] junior high was they're going to tear

[37:04] the building down, give us a lot, but

[37:06] nobody wants a PD in the middle of a

[37:07] housing area.

[37:08] >> No. No.

[37:09] >> Sure. The sirens going off at night

[37:11] would be welcomed by all residents.

[37:13] >> Right.

[37:14] If I can add a little bit to help a

[37:17] little bit with like different

[37:18] properties and the buildings that we

[37:19] have to look at, one of the big things

[37:21] that we have to look at is the response

[37:23] of

[37:25] where we're coming from and where we're

[37:27] going. So, if we get the old Junior High

[37:29] property, we're responding lights and

[37:32] sirens at higher speeds through

[37:35] residential districts where kids are out

[37:39] playing, dogs are out running around,

[37:42] balls are being ran or thrown across the

[37:44] street. We've got to be cautious of

[37:45] where we're responding. The other thing

[37:47] that we got to be looking at when we're

[37:49] looking at buildings and property is the

[37:51] security of the building as well. Where

[37:53] are we our access points, our exit

[37:55] points for the building? I mean, we're

[37:58] not always like people target law

[37:59] enforcement. So, we have to have that

[38:01] security and and the quick road access

[38:05] is like that. So, I understand what you

[38:07] guys are saying and I'm you know, Jason

[38:09] and the council, the committee, we've

[38:12] all visited about different properties

[38:13] and buildings around town, but we have a

[38:16] lot that more goes into it than just uh

[38:19] building. We have to look at security

[38:20] aspects, response times. You know, I

[38:24] can't have a police department in the

[38:25] middle of of town where we're responding

[38:27] through communities.

[38:29] >> Well, I'm not saying we get to junior

[38:31] high. I think personally junior high

[38:34] needs torn down.

[38:36] That's the school's expense, not ours,

[38:38] you know. Well, we looked at, you know,

[38:41] we've looked at uh

[38:43] we've been working on this for a long

[38:45] time and and we've looked at, you know,

[38:47] the different areas you go out like

[38:49] Paragon Way where, you know,

[38:52] >> one way in, one way out and that's our

[38:54] big worry about that, you know, the same

[38:56] way with go down one more uh cul I guess

[38:59] go south one more culde-sac where um

[39:03] >> Progress

[39:03] >> Yeah, Progress Court is same way. One

[39:06] way in, one way out. Um Uh, I know from

[39:09] an emergency standpoint of my life,

[39:11] there's that's that's the biggest threat

[39:13] you could ever have is to be pinned in

[39:15] somewhere and not be able to get

[39:17] somewhere, right?

[39:18] >> Um, everyone was like, you know, what

[39:19] about the the lot across the uh Gil

[39:22] Crest, go right across Gilchrist uh

[39:24] railroad tracks to the left. Well, if a

[39:27] trains there, guess what? You know,

[39:29] that's why when we built Eastern Wing

[39:31] Ambulance back in the day, we built it

[39:33] out with a large roadway and everything

[39:35] else, you know. Um, so there's, please

[39:38] understand there's a lot of thought

[39:40] that's gone into this. We've looked at

[39:41] tons of different things and well, this

[39:44] might work, that might work, you know,

[39:47] so

[39:48] it's we we definitely banged our head

[39:51] against the wall on this one.

[39:52] >> Yeah. And I I I would add to your your

[39:54] train of thought. I mean, this is the

[39:55] first one that we've maybe gotten more

[39:57] serious about and we're willing to throw

[40:01] some money at inspections and move

[40:03] forward in the process to see if it

[40:05] works. There's been lots of could a

[40:07] would a shouldas and lots of lookie

[40:09] looing, but this is the first one that

[40:10] maybe we're

[40:12] taking more action on. And that's not to

[40:14] say that we're lock and barrel going to

[40:16] do it. It's just it's of enough interest

[40:18] that we need to explore the ability of

[40:21] doing it for sure.

[40:23] >> Oh, most definitely. Well, and the

[40:25] elephant in the room, I I I worry that

[40:28] if we don't make a move on this with

[40:30] this amount of ground that we would get

[40:32] with the building itself, it goes to

[40:35] someone else. Where else is there that

[40:38] couldn't even come up for sale that

[40:39] would, you know, that we could even look

[40:42] at, I guess.

[40:42] >> What's the lot again?

[40:44] >> Acre and half.

[40:45] >> An acre and a half lot that we're going

[40:47] to have included with this whole thing.

[40:48] So, I mean,

[40:49] >> and it's already fenced, too. I mean,

[40:51] and it's security fence and there's just

[40:53] there's a lot of there's a lot of pros.

[40:56] There are cons, but um

[41:00] our scale as a as a mayor and council

[41:03] says it's worth digging a little deeper

[41:05] into before we say yes or no. So I know

[41:08] sir you said uh there are provisions in

[41:10] here if we need to have all the things

[41:13] done that that uh uh Doug Weaver's asked

[41:17] for that can be done with the signing of

[41:20] this and we're still okay with

[41:23] everything we do have the opportunity to

[41:24] back out this

[41:27] you don't have he he could fix it

[41:31] >> but you might not like the fix all

[41:34] guaranteed this way I'm just saying be

[41:36] cautious of everything you do.

[41:38] >> No, but I mean we can still have our

[41:39] inspections.

[41:40] >> Yeah, but I think if you're going to

[41:42] have them, you got to extend that

[41:43] inspection time out because right now

[41:45] it's you have to give him a letter by

[41:48] August Well, you have to have those done

[41:51] and give them the notice by August 12th.

[41:55] And that isn't going to give you time.

[41:57] I'll guarantee you that will not give

[41:58] you time to do it appropriate. If you do

[42:01] it, I would suggest at minimum of 60

[42:03] days out.

[42:05] So thanks sir.

[42:07] >> You can ask for anything

[42:09] >> and see what the seller says.

[42:10] >> Okay.

[42:11] >> And then probably so we know the title

[42:14] insurance. A lot of times we name the

[42:15] title insurance company one in town

[42:18] that's premier title just

[42:21] >> that's four weeks and two days from

[42:23] today

[42:25] August 12th.

[42:26] What about a six weeks we can ask for? I

[42:29] think that would be inspe

[42:36] » Oh, absolutely.

[42:38] >> You guys need special something.

[42:40] >> We'll kind of be realistic about getting

[42:41] the inspectors in and not also having

[42:44] him wait. Now, I appreciate his holding

[42:47] on and working with us on this. It's

[42:49] also a matter of I think a six week

[42:51] window will give us more opportunity to

[42:52] get the proper people in to look at

[42:54] things.

[42:55] >> That's up to you.

[42:56] >> So, I would be fine. Yeah.

[42:58] >> Would you be okay with that?

[42:59] >> I'd be all right.

[43:00] >> All right. So, I propose I make a motion

[43:04] we accept this contract with a six week

[43:08] period for inspections.

[43:11] >> I would second that

[43:12] >> and name Premier Title as a title.

[43:14] >> Name Premier Title as a company

[43:16] >> and extend the closing date then.

[43:19] >> Yeah.

[43:22] >> Yes. Correct.

[43:25] >> The initial two weeks past that

[43:28] >> is that

[43:30] >> manageable.

[43:32] >> Yes sir.

[43:34] >> You want me to stand up? Thanks for

[43:36] coming.

[43:38] >> I just my only my only comment on all

[43:41] this is we went through it about about

[43:43] uh Scott Warner went through this about

[43:46] six months ago. My only recommendation

[43:48] just listening would would say do a

[43:51] phase one do it if you want to give it

[43:53] six weeks if it's an older building I

[43:56] would do a phase you know phase one

[43:58] inspection and maybe give yourself um an

[44:02] additional additional runway and time if

[44:05] a phase two is required because if if a

[44:08] phase two required I would agree with Doug you have it's going to take

[44:12] longer and you're going to have to make

[44:14] the decision on who pays for the phase

[44:16] two try to be the talent, but you just

[44:19] give yourself a little better runway on

[44:22] uh on the phase two site. I think you'll set yourself up for um for a

[44:26] little more um success if if it requires

[44:30] it. So, sorry to interrupt

[44:33] and she can write that in and say if

[44:35] phase two is required,

[44:37] >> you know, whatever whatever additional

[44:39] time frame you need to call it another,

[44:41] you know, three, four weeks or whatever

[44:42] because that might

[44:44] >> No, thank you for the input. That's why

[44:46] we have no that's why we have discussion

[44:48] period after

[44:48] >> absolutely

[44:49] >> this is exactly why we have discussion

[44:51] after voting

[44:54] >> I will amend my motion

[44:56] >> and I will second

[44:57] >> to a phase one inspection to be

[44:59] completed within six weeks

[45:01] >> then have the opportunity

[45:03] >> phase two

[45:04] >> what he said

[45:05] >> in so many

[45:06] >> yeah I'm not sure how how long it takes

[45:08] to get a phase two and you know in your

[45:10] area but I just know they're a lot more

[45:12] complex

[45:13] >> the write up takes longer so Yeah, you

[45:16] guys probably have more experience with

[45:17] that, but I that's my only

[45:20] >> Yeah. And there's no guarantee that it's

[45:22] needed, but if it is, there's

[45:23] >> just Yeah, it just gives you that offer

[45:25] if you do need it.

[45:28] >> This is the learn as we go thing for

[45:30] sure.

[45:33] >> So, a motion and a second for the

[45:35] >> phase one inspection

[45:36] >> for six weeks followed by a phase two if

[45:40] necessary

[45:42] >> and Premier Title Company as a title.

[45:47] You got all that.

[45:49] >> All right.

[45:51] >> Is there any further comments at this

[45:53] time?

[45:56] Hearing none. All in.

[45:57] >> Yeah.

[45:58] >> Something Jason said a minute ago. I can

[46:00] stand up if you want.

[46:03] >> Yeah. Go ahead, John. Stand up. Be

[46:05] official.

[46:08] >> Uh John Odum. Uh something you said

[46:10] Jason which got me to thinking you were

[46:13] talking about the lot right across

[46:14] Gilcraft on the north side of the road.

[46:16] If there's a train coming then couldn't

[46:19] respond. Would the same be said for

[46:22] being on this side of the tracks if

[46:24] something's going down you couldn't

[46:25] respond east of the tracks?

[46:27] >> A lot of I can just tell you like with

[46:29] the ambulance service um it was for one

[46:34] most of our town is on this side. We do

[46:36] have some out there. I get it. Um, but

[46:38] we had I mean we've had times where we

[46:41] responded and had to get on the radio

[46:43] and call Burlington Northern and say get

[46:45] your train moved. Um, because we try to

[46:48] jump, you know, you know, where the

[46:49] crossings are arguing that I was curious

[46:52] if there was a reason.

[46:54] >> Well, and and the majority of the town

[46:56] being on this side of it, I I worry a

[46:59] heck of a lot less about that response,

[47:01] you know, over here than I would. you

[47:04] know, the guys are at briefing and all

[47:05] of a sudden we got to train across three

[47:07] tracks and we've got something popping

[47:08] off, you know, whatever.

[47:10] >> No, I totally understand.

[47:11] >> It's kind of crazy, man. It's it's a

[47:13] planning nightmare, if you will. So,

[47:18] >> looking for a little deeper,

[47:21] >> you definitely have to look at where the

[47:23] primary calls are, like what side of

[47:24] town is our primary. We get majority,

[47:27] you know, the majority of our calls are

[47:28] on this side of the railroad tracks

[47:30] >> to where traverses over there. So, we

[47:32] have to be

[47:36] curious.

[47:40] » Yes,

[47:42] >> were we finished with number eight?

[47:47] » I Well, I got to call the vote.

[47:48] >> Oh, yeah. Okay, that's where I thought

[47:50] you were.

[47:50] >> If there are no other comments,

[47:54] all in favor signify by saying I

[47:57] >> I post same sign. Motion will carry now.

[48:00] Yes. Okay.

[48:02] So, you're you're just before you

[48:06] adjourn, can I go back to number one and

[48:09] just um what's the time frame for that

[48:13] IT contract? When when do you need to

[48:16] have something new in place?

[48:19] >> I don't know that we're going to call

[48:20] for new. We're going to talk to the two

[48:22] people who have

[48:24] >> put in the submissions

[48:26] >> and then I guess on the the going

[48:29] forward, was it a was it a bid document

[48:33] poorly written? I mean to to get to

[48:36] drastically different interpretations.

[48:40] So are you going to redo the bid

[48:42] document?

[48:42] >> I that's what we need to talk about.

[48:45] Okay. I feel like to be very honest with

[48:47] you, I feel like after reading through

[48:49] the contracts, there was uh obviously

[48:52] the one bidder is the current uh IT

[48:56] provider and I feel like they had a heck

[48:58] of a lot of information that not the

[49:02] other side didn't have.

[49:03] >> Okay.

[49:04] >> Um and it's not information that would

[49:07] it it's an itemized thing. One side had

[49:11] an exact numbers the other side did not.

[49:13] And I think that that's something that

[49:15] I'm not comfortable with. Um saying, "Oh

[49:18] yeah, we can go this route and you know

[49:20] be fine with it and you know even though

[49:23] it's not apples to apples."

[49:25] >> Okay. But so the current provider will

[49:28] continue even though the contract is up

[49:31] for renewal if

[49:32] >> y

[49:34] have a little bit of time on.

[49:35] >> Okay.

[49:37] >> Thank you.

[49:43] There any other comment at this time?

[49:46] Questions or concerns?

[49:50] Hearing none. Uh make the announcement

[49:53] that the next regularly scheduled uh

[49:56] meeting will be August 10th at 7 p.m.

[49:58] right here. And uh enjoy attendance. So

[50:01] invite all of you to come back on August

[50:03] 10th and we'll we'll do it again. That

[50:06] will return the meeting. need me. You

[50:08] say that all the time. Brandon,

[50:11] >> do you guys want to do a workshop

[50:13] >> for the IT contract? What do we want to

[50:15] do?

[50:17] >> You just drove all

[50:19] >> Yeah, I know.

[50:20] >> But do we want to have like a workshop

[50:22] so

[50:26] I think we should.

[50:27] >> Yeah, I mean happy to accommodate

[50:29] however you guys. I mean, again, I think

[50:31] we happy to not sure how if there was

[50:34] discrepancy in, you know, information

[50:37] delivered it was more

[50:40] I'm not we didn't pull the information

[50:42] together so we just reported on what

[50:44] exist

[50:56] » came across

[51:03] » I know you were like

[51:04] >> I'm doing good how are you

[51:06] making comment. I'm sure it was much

[51:08] appreciated.

[51:09] >> A little rest and relaxation hopefully.

[51:12] All new ones. I mean,

[51:18] that was an eye

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