[1:06] Okay, I'd like to call the meeting to

[1:09] order. It's Tuesday, July 28th. It is 6

[1:13] p.m.

[1:15] Dina, do we have a quorum?

[1:17] >> Yes, ma'am.

[1:18] » Yes, ma'am.

[1:18] >> Thank you. Okay. Would Ted Chitchens

[1:21] » Thank you. Okay. Would Ted Chitchens

[1:21] come forward? Ted, we're going to have

[1:24] you come say the prayer.

[1:30] Well, Madame Mayor and uh

[1:32] [clears throat]

[1:33] council members, men and women, the

[1:35] community thanks you for your service.

[1:38] Uh the spiritual comm community prays

[1:39] for you and uh we don't overlook the

[1:41] fact that you invest a lot of time

[1:43] trying to make our lives more prosperous

[1:46] and peaceful. So, it's my great joy to

[1:49] pray for you. Uh uh Father, we approach

[1:52] uh your sovereign throne this evening

[1:55] asking you for good favor for this

[1:58] meeting. Thanking you for each of these

[2:00] council men and women and the mayor who

[2:04] do sacrifice a great deal of time uh who

[2:07] give of themselves so that our lives can

[2:09] be more comfortable. we can be resting

[2:12] in peace raising our children and

[2:14] grandchildren in in a community that

[2:16] we're proud to be a part of. So, thank

[2:17] you for their service. Lord, I know

[2:20] there's a lot of decisions need to be

[2:21] made tonight that um individuals in the

[2:23] room are all being a part of. Uh I ask

[2:26] you that you'd give the council insight

[2:29] and wisdom as it relates to the the

[2:32] needs that are being presented [snorts]

[2:34] and everyone would uh be [clears throat]

[2:36] in love with each other from a Christian

[2:38] perspective even if there's times of

[2:40] disagreement and that at the end of the

[2:42] evening the things that need to be

[2:44] accomplished for the sake of the Willow

[2:47] Park community will be accomplished and

[2:48] this is our prayer to you Lord God in

[2:51] the name of your son our Lord Jesus.

[2:54] >> Amen.

[2:54] » Amen.

[2:54] >> Amen.

[2:54] » Amen.

[2:54] >> Amen.

[2:56] » Amen.

[2:56] [cough and clears throat]

[2:57] I [snorts] pledge allegiance to the flag

[3:00] of the United States of America and to

[3:03] the republic for which it stands, one

[3:06] nation under God, indivisible, with

[3:09] liberty and justice for all.

[3:14] » Honor the Texas flag. I aliance to thee,

[3:18] Texas, one state under God, one and

[3:22] indivisible.

[3:25] Thank you, Pastor [clears throat] Ted

[3:27] Kitchens. We appreciate you.

[3:37] Okay, tonight I'm sharing the Bible

[3:39] verse James 1:19.

[3:42] This you know, my beloved brethren,

[3:45] but everyone must be quick to hear, slow

[3:49] to speak, and slow to anger.

[3:53] Okay, Joyce, would you like to come

[3:55] forward?

[3:57] Okay. The business I'd like to highlight

[4:00] tonight is Clean Eats Cafe located at

[4:03] 337

[4:05] Shops Boulevard. The owner is Joyce

[4:08] Bone. I had lunch there Thursday with

[4:11] some friends and I had the bison burger

[4:13] which was great. So, Joyce, do you want

[4:15] to step to the podium and just say a

[4:18] quick word about your business?

[4:21] Yes, ma'am. My name is Joyce and I

[4:24] picked uh Willow Park to retire and

[4:27] [snorts] chop broccoli for the rest of

[4:28] my life. Um we are a cafe uh that also

[4:33] does uh graband go meals. We focus on

[4:37] healthy, wholesome food. We also do a

[4:40] weekly meal prep where you can do

[4:42] special orders. We do special diets. Um

[4:45] anything that you need to have done, we

[4:47] do. We can do school lunches, school

[4:49] meals, daycarees, uh anything to that

[4:52] effect. And we also do a lot of

[4:54] catering. Love Willow Park, love the

[4:57] people, which you guys are which makes

[4:59] this place absolutely great. And love

[5:02] the community and hopefully it will go,

[5:05] you know, forward under Mayor Palmer in

[5:08] the right direction. So, thank you very

[5:11] much.

[5:11] >> Thank you. Please. Welcome to town.

[5:15] » Thank you. Please. Welcome to town.

[5:15] [applause]

[5:18] Okay. So, next we have a proclamation to

[5:21] recognize the Alto High School baseball

[5:24] team.

[5:26] >> They were in meeting today, by the way.

[5:29] » They were in meeting today, by the way.

[5:29] >> Were they? [laughter]

[5:37] » Look at those.

[5:38] >> How impressive are those? Okay, I'm

[5:41] » How impressive are those? Okay, I'm

[5:41] going to read your proclamation.

[5:43] >> [clears throat]

[5:43] » [clears throat]

[5:43] >> Okay.

[5:45] » Okay.

[5:45] So, whereas the Alto High School Bearcat

[5:49] baseball team brought home a class 5A

[5:53] state championship in 2026, capping off

[5:57] back-to-back titles. Wow. Right.

[6:00] Whereas, head coach Chad Barry,

[6:04] that's him. Yeah. and his program have

[6:07] now won three state titles in the last

[6:10] 12 years and was named the Texas High

[6:12] School Coaches Association 5A region

[6:16] three coach of the year. And whereas the

[6:19] Bearcats show strength and hard work on

[6:23] and off the field with five players

[6:25] named to the Allstate tournament team,

[6:28] one player on the Texas High School

[6:31] Baseball Coaches Association Allstar

[6:33] Game

[6:35] and THSBCA

[6:38] class 5A elite team and two allstate

[6:42] first team selections. And whereas the

[6:46] city of Willow Park is honored to be the

[6:48] largest city in Alo Independent School

[6:52] District and the home of many of the

[6:56] exceptional young players. And now

[6:58] therefore, I, Mayor Teresa Palmer, ask

[7:02] you to join me in recognizing the hard

[7:05] work of these players, the coaching

[7:07] staff, and the assorted trainers,

[7:09] families, and fans who made us proud to

[7:12] be part of such an exciting time. I urge

[7:16] all citizens to extend their

[7:18] congratulations to the baseball team in

[7:20] the Alto Independent School District as

[7:23] a whole and witness whereof. I have set

[7:26] my hand and caused the seal of Willow

[7:29] Park, Texas to be affixed

[7:32] this 28th day of July 2026.

[7:38] [applause]

[7:43] » [applause]

[7:50] [applause]

[7:54] » That

[8:01] of three. One, two,

[8:10] [applause]

[8:24] That was very nice. Thank you.

[8:29] Okay. Item two is a consent agenda to

[8:33] approve the regular council meetings

[8:35] from July 14th. We have some changes

[8:38] that need to be worked on. Dina, where

[8:40] are we on those? Are we waiting? What

[8:42] are we doing?

[8:44] Um, the mayor sent me a message that

[8:47] said that she would like added or

[8:49] changed in the minutes um to say that

[8:53] Mayor Palmer stated she had asked for

[8:55] this item to be put on the agenda

[8:56] because she received a phone call and an

[8:58] email from council person in another

[9:01] city

[9:03] um WHP overheard the city manager and

[9:06] city planner at of Willow Park speaking

[9:09] to other public officials as TML meeting

[9:12] and they were saying false fishes. some

[9:14] malicious things about the mayor.

[9:15] >> Yep.

[9:16] » Yep.

[9:16] >> She asked the council to consider

[9:17] » She asked the council to consider

[9:17] adopting an ordinance for new code of

[9:20] conduct. The city manager acknowledged

[9:22] her behavior at the TML meeting. So, I

[9:26] told her that because this is a

[9:27] correction totally different from what's

[9:29] in the minutes that it needed to be

[9:31] addressed at the table and that the

[9:34] council would be the ones to make the

[9:35] decision what goes in the minutes if it

[9:37] needs to be corrected or not. And you

[9:40] can either vote on it as, and correct me

[9:43] if I'm wrong, you can vote on it that

[9:45] you can say yes, we want that added and

[9:51] I can correct them. They can be approved

[9:53] tonight with the corruption or it can be

[9:55] tabled until the next meeting.

[9:58] Okay. So, I I literally said that. So, I

[10:02] want what I said, not what was rephrased

[10:06] in the minutes. Uh

[10:07] >> we don't we don't do minutes verbatim

[10:09] » we don't we don't do minutes verbatim

[10:09] >> right but this is very critical I think

[10:12] » right but this is very critical I think

[10:12] what I said

[10:13] >> you know what was

[10:14] » you know what was

[10:14] >> the Bible verse hold your thought the

[10:16] » the Bible verse hold your thought the

[10:16] Bible verse was 2121 that was only the

[10:19] thing that I saw in there

[10:21] >> I'll check that

[10:21] » I'll check that

[10:22] >> right

[10:22] » right

[10:22] >> I'll change that

[10:23] » I'll change that

[10:23] >> okay perfect so I want what I said in

[10:27] » okay perfect so I want what I said in

[10:27] the minutes not what was rewritten so

[10:31] I'm [clears throat] asking for a motion

[10:33] to approve fixing the minutes do we have

[10:36] a motion to do that.

[10:38] >> Tony has a question. The last sentence

[10:40] » Tony has a question. The last sentence

[10:40] was the city manager acknowledged her

[10:42] behavior at the TML meeting.

[10:43] >> That is incorrect.

[10:46] » That is incorrect.

[10:46] >> Okay. So, my memory of the discussion

[10:49] » Okay. So, my memory of the discussion

[10:49] and we do have it on video is one

[10:52] comment you made is your comments that

[10:56] y'all made were after the meeting.

[10:59] That's what you said at the meeting and

[11:02] this complaint was 15 minutes into the

[11:04] meeting. So that is a correction that

[11:08] the person who wrote the letter of

[11:11] complaint it was 15 minutes into the

[11:14] meeting. So maybe you did it correct 15

[11:16] minutes into the meeting and then after

[11:18] the meeting probably several times I'm

[11:20] guessing.

[11:20] >> So this was for item number seven on the

[11:23] » So this was for item number seven on the

[11:23] July 14th meetings that are before you

[11:26] for approval. So it's item number seven

[11:28] that we're talking about.

[11:33] Well, can I suggest that [clears throat]

[11:35] if you do have a video that you make

[11:37] sure city council has the opportunity to

[11:39] view the video before they make a

[11:40] decision?

[11:41] >> Mhm. Okay. So, we want to table this and

[11:43] » Mhm. Okay. So, we want to table this and

[11:43] work on them and that way everybody can

[11:45] go back and listen the video, listen

[11:46] what was said.

[11:47] >> I didn't say that. That's up to city

[11:49] » I didn't say that. That's up to city

[11:49] council. What I said was I just wanted

[11:50] to make sure that everyone knew that

[11:52] that was available. Correct.

[11:54] >> Okay. So, do y'all want if you're not

[11:56] » Okay. So, do y'all want if you're not

[11:56] going to make a motion, do y'all want to

[11:57] table it? Make a motion to table.

[12:01] >> I'll make a motion to approve the

[12:02] » I'll make a motion to approve the

[12:02] regular city council meeting minutes

[12:04] dated July 14, 2026 as presented.

[12:10] » Okay. Do we have a second to

[12:12] >> a statement on I want if the mayor is

[12:14] » a statement on I want if the mayor is

[12:14] asking for specific

[12:17] verbiage that she specifically said and

[12:20] would like that added. I have no issue

[12:22] there. it will become at anything else

[12:24] that was

[12:26] opinion at that point and that's where

[12:30] like if you want to take the verbatim

[12:32] what you said and have that added as a

[12:34] script I have no issue there but I

[12:37] believe Miss Fischer has said that she

[12:38] didn't admit to that so there won't be

[12:42] any opinions added that I would go back

[12:44] and redo anything that you said is

[12:46] obviously part of it and the

[12:47] summarization is the process by which we

[12:50] do this

[12:50] >> I don't know what you just

[12:52] » I don't know what you just

[12:52] So, you're asking me to,

[12:55] >> if the council so desires to add the

[12:57] » if the council so desires to add the

[12:57] item that the mayor talked about

[12:59] verbatim as a a part of what's already

[13:03] there or change what's there,

[13:06] >> I would say make it an addition looking

[13:08] » I would say make it an addition looking

[13:08] at what's there. There's nothing that

[13:11] you can just add it.

[13:12] >> It was just a summary. Correct. That's

[13:14] » It was just a summary. Correct. That's

[13:14] how I do the minutes. I do

[13:15] [clears throat] a summary of what's the

[13:16] discussion. So,

[13:17] >> the summary is fine in my opinion. And

[13:18] » the summary is fine in my opinion. And

[13:18] if the mayor feels that her specific

[13:20] statements need to be added, I have no

[13:21] issue with that.

[13:22] >> We need a second on the motion or the

[13:24] » We need a second on the motion or the

[13:24] motion will die.

[13:25] >> Okay. Do we have a second for Nathan?

[13:27] » Okay. Do we have a second for Nathan?

[13:27] >> No, I'll I'll withdraw my motion.

[13:29] » No, I'll I'll withdraw my motion.

[13:29] >> Okay. So, do we have a second for

[13:31] » Okay. So, do we have a second for

[13:31] Nathan?

[13:32] >> I'll let me make the motion first

[13:34] » I'll let me make the motion first

[13:34] officially so we can go ahead. I'll make

[13:35] a motion to um update the city council

[13:40] meeting minutes from the 14th to reflect

[13:44] the mayor's verbatim uh statements that

[13:46] she would like added.

[13:48] >> Second.

[13:49] » Second.

[13:49] >> Second. All in favor.

[13:52] » Second. All in favor.

[13:52] Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate

[13:54] that.

[13:56] >> Did you skip public comments?

[13:58] » Did you skip public comments?

[13:58] >> No, we're going there. Sorry.

[14:02] » No, we're going there. Sorry.

[14:02] That's where we're at. Sorry.

[14:10] Next for public comments,

[14:14] Kenna Hannah.

[14:16] [clears throat]

[14:19] Mayor Teresa Palmer, council members and

[14:21] other city administrators and citizens.

[14:24] For your information, character

[14:26] assassination is a deliberate,

[14:28] malicious, and sustained effort to

[14:29] damage and rep reputation the

[14:31] credibility or character of an

[14:33] individual. It often relies on spreading

[14:35] rumors, manipulating facts, and using

[14:37] unfair criticism to destroy how the

[14:39] public or peers perceive the target

[14:40] person. Key components: intentional

[14:43] misinformation to use half-truths,

[14:46] exaggerating claims, or unright lies to

[14:48] paint someone in the negative light.

[14:51] Reputation damage. The primary goal is

[14:54] to make people stop trusting, liking or

[14:56] respecting the target person format. It

[14:59] happens through smear campaigns, gossip,

[15:02] media attacks or orchestrated public

[15:04] criticism. Why is it used? People or

[15:06] groups often resort to this tactic when

[15:08] they cannot compete fairly or lack

[15:11] logical arguments. By attacking

[15:13] someone's morals or inte integrity

[15:15] rather than their actual work, the

[15:17] attacker tries to disqualify them from a

[15:19] debate, election, or a social circle.

[15:23] A city council in Texas does not have

[15:25] the right to strip a mayor of their

[15:26] constitutional freedom of speech. An

[15:28] elected mayor retains their first

[15:30] amendment rights to express opinions

[15:32] even when those views are controversial

[15:34] or critical at the national level. In

[15:37] Texas, neither a city council nor city

[15:39] manager has a legal authority to

[15:40] unilaterally strip an elected mayor of

[15:43] their official duties or removed from

[15:44] their office state level. City council.

[15:48] A council cannot fire, suspend or strip

[15:51] elected mayor of their core legislative

[15:53] or presiding duties under Texas law or

[15:55] elected officials tenure is protected by

[15:58] the city level. City manager or city

[16:00] manager and administrative employee

[16:02] hired by council that oversee day-to-day

[16:04] staff operations have zero authority

[16:07] over elected officials. An ordinance of

[16:09] the city of Will Park, Texas, amending

[16:12] the city of Willow Park code ordinances.

[16:14] The portion that says chapter one

[16:16] providing the mayor and the city

[16:19] administrator to have control of the

[16:20] city control agenda. Duly passed at city

[16:24] council November 17, 2025. Let us

[16:27] sincerely try to respect the voters and

[16:30] those who have been elected by the

[16:31] voters in this city of Will Park, Texas

[16:34] of this United States of America. Thank

[16:37] you all. Thank you, Kenneth.

[16:40] [applause]

[16:43] » Okay, next we have Tara Stark.

[16:47] [clears throat]

[16:52] Good evening, mayor and council members.

[16:53] My name is Tara Stark and I live at 2004

[16:56] Ranch House Road. I want to speak

[16:58] tonight about something bigger than one

[17:00] development, any one property, or any

[17:03] one decision that comes before the

[17:05] council. I want to talk about legacy.

[17:09] What standard will you set for the

[17:11] legacy you want to leave the city of

[17:13] Willow Park? Because the decisions made

[17:16] in this room don't end when a meeting

[17:18] adjourns. They become part of the

[17:21] community. They shape what we see when

[17:24] we drive down our roads, the quality of

[17:26] life within our neighborhoods, and the

[17:28] character of the city we call home. And

[17:32] those decisions don't affect only you

[17:34] and me. They affect our children, our

[17:37] children's children, and generations we

[17:40] will never meet.

[17:42] [snorts] The truth is, one day all of us

[17:44] will be gone. But the land will still be

[17:47] here. And what will Willow Park look

[17:50] like 20, 50, and even 100 years from now

[17:54] will be influenced by the standards we

[17:56] choose to uphold today. Growth is

[17:59] inevitable. Change is inevitable. And a

[18:02] hundred years from now, another

[18:04] generation may look at what we built and

[18:07] decide to bulldoze it all and start all

[18:09] over. But until then, we are the

[18:12] stewards of this place.

[18:15] We have been entrusted with a community

[18:17] worth protecting and an opportunity to

[18:20] shape what it becomes.

[18:23] So, as future decisions come before you,

[18:25] I hope the question isn't simply what

[18:27] can we approve. I hope the question is

[18:30] what should we approve? What fits the

[18:32] character of Willow Park? What protects

[18:35] the quality of life of the people who

[18:37] already call it home? What will we be

[18:40] proud to drive past 20 years from now

[18:42] and say, "We got that right."

[18:45] There will always be pressure to grow.

[18:47] There will always be financial

[18:49] consideration. There will always be

[18:52] someone asking for an exception,

[18:54] asking for a variance or a different

[18:56] standard. But standards matter because

[18:59] once we lower them, what that will allow

[19:02] will become the expectation of tomorrow.

[19:04] Each one of you have been given the

[19:06] responsibility and an opportunity to

[19:08] help shape the future of Willow Park. My

[19:10] hope is that when you make those

[19:12] decisions, you don't consider the next

[19:14] project or the next few years. Consider

[19:16] the legacy.

[19:18] Because long after all of us are gone,

[19:21] the land will remain. and what we leave

[19:24] behind will tell future generations what

[19:27] we valued while it was ours to protect.

[19:30] Thank you.

[19:31] >> Thank you, Terra. [applause]

[19:36] » And next we have Marcy Galley.

[19:40] [clears throat]

[19:43] Good evening, mayor and council.

[19:47] Uh my name is Marcy Galley. I live at

[19:49] 500 Squawk Creek Road.

[19:52] Let's see. We only have 3 minutes. So,

[19:54] the first thing I'd like to ask very

[19:55] quickly is I noticed that there was a

[19:57] speaker uh signing up to give comments

[20:00] and he was turned away because he didn't

[20:02] um submit within

[20:05] 5 minutes before the meeting started.

[20:08] Can we please amend that to just if

[20:10] somebody gets in public comments uh a

[20:12] request to give public comments before

[20:14] the meeting starts at 6, we just allow

[20:17] them to speak?

[20:19] I don't know where that stipulation

[20:21] comes from. Okay. So, my first issue is

[20:26] I wanted to ask when the certificate of

[20:30] convenience and necessity amendments

[20:34] were when was that effort approved?

[20:38] I know that Jacob and Martin put in the

[20:41] application at the beginning of

[20:43] February.

[20:46] Can someone answer when that was

[20:47] approved? No, not during public comment.

[20:50] >> If you have an answer, you should

[20:51] » If you have an answer, you should

[20:51] answer,

[20:52] >> but not during public comment. We can't

[20:53] » but not during public comment. We can't

[20:53] bend the rules for one person.

[20:55] >> You can do it under TOMA in public

[20:57] » You can do it under TOMA in public

[20:57] comment. We always have.

[20:59] >> So,

[21:01] » So,

[21:01] and we're back to, you know, people

[21:03] running the meeting that aren't running

[21:04] the that aren't supposed to be running

[21:05] the meeting. So, anyway, okay. How much

[21:08] was the effort,

[21:10] right? How much are we paying Jacob and

[21:12] Martin to amend RCN's for water and

[21:16] sewer?

[21:17] And I'd like to know when every public

[21:20] official of Willow Park was aware that

[21:24] we were putting in those amendments

[21:28] through the PUC.

[21:30] And why is Gretchen Vasquez not the one

[21:34] overseeing that effort? She's our

[21:37] in-house engineer.

[21:41] Number two, I wanted to know the

[21:43] Bandidas Willow Park item number on item

[21:47] 12. We're doing economic development

[21:49] negotiations with Bandidas Willow Park.

[21:52] So, is there an application online for

[21:57] economic development requests for all

[21:59] businesses that come to the city or do

[22:03] we pick winners and losers? Because

[22:05] that's kind of the way it feels to me.

[22:08] I know personally that some businesses

[22:11] have been required to retrofit as they

[22:14] move here from other cities. And do we

[22:17] do we require that for all businesses? I

[22:20] mean, who do we give those incentives

[22:21] to?

[22:24] And uh I would like to just say Bankhead

[22:27] Highway should never be completely

[22:30] closed to through traffic. I would like

[22:32] to see one lane open. And I don't know

[22:34] why we're doing it that way because I

[22:36] don't believe it was bid that way. And

[22:38] if it was bid that way, that was an

[22:40] error.

[22:41] Thank you. Thank you.

[22:47] [applause]

[22:48] Okay. Next, we have Chris Wood wants to

[22:51] speak.

[22:56] I'm Chris Wood. I live at 184 Crown

[22:58] Point Boulevard. Please evaluate

[23:01] employee compensation based on the

[23:04] actual duties that each position

[23:06] performs. Consider also a regular cost

[23:10] of living adjustment so city pay keeps

[23:13] pace with inflation.

[23:15] I support adequate pay for Willow Park

[23:18] city employees. Willow Park employee pay

[23:22] may generally appear average, but that

[23:24] average does not tell the whole story.

[23:27] Pay varies by role and the police

[23:29] department has recently faced retention

[23:32] challenges.

[23:34] Comparing Willow Park city employee

[23:36] compensation is difficult because the

[23:38] city operates with a lean staff. Many

[23:41] employees wear multiple hats to keep

[23:44] services running. This makes standard

[23:46] role for roll comparisons with other

[23:49] cities incomplete and somewhat

[23:51] misleading.

[23:53] Employees often juggle duties across

[23:55] departments. For example, public works

[23:58] staff may also handle code enforcement.

[24:01] Salary surveys rarely match these exact

[24:04] blended jobs, leaving no clear baseline

[24:07] for compensation.

[24:09] A base salary may look high or low until

[24:12] you factor in the weighted average of

[24:15] the various skill sets and market rates

[24:18] for all the indivivividual functions the

[24:20] employee performs.

[24:22] I believe in safety first. Thank you for

[24:25] approving a 2.5% pay increase for police

[24:28] officers in May to improve staff

[24:31] retention. Retention is critical for

[24:33] police departments because it helps

[24:35] prevent burnout, preserves knowledge,

[24:38] and reduces costly overtime. Experienced

[24:42] officers can also mentor recruits,

[24:44] creating a safer and stable work

[24:46] environment. This benefits all of Willow

[24:49] Park. Adequate employee salaries helps a

[24:53] municipality attract and retain skilled

[24:55] professionals, maintain highquality

[24:58] services, and reduce the financial

[25:00] burden of constant turnover.

[25:03] Competitive, fair pay also boosts morale

[25:06] and helps keep experienced employees

[25:09] serving the public instead of leaving

[25:11] for other opportunities.

[25:13] Please evaluate whether city employee

[25:15] pay aligns with actual workload by

[25:18] identifying the tasks each employee

[25:21] performs. Compare these responsibilities

[25:24] with the relevant market rates and

[25:27] adjust compensation where duties have

[25:29] grown beyond the job title. Please also

[25:32] consider implementing regular cost of

[25:34] living adjustments for city employees. I

[25:38] am on disability and the yearly cola

[25:40] gives me peace of mind because it

[25:42] protects my purchasing power and helps

[25:44] maintain my standard of living. City

[25:47] employees deserve similar protection.

[25:49] Thank you.

[25:50] >> Thank you.

[25:53] » And next we have Jean Martin.

[26:02] » Madam Mayor, other members of the

[26:04] Bullpart City Council, I'm Gene Martin.

[26:06] I continue to reside at 700 Kingsgate

[26:08] Road. Many meetings ago, the new solid

[26:11] waste contract was a hot topic due to

[26:13] the sudden 25%

[26:15] increase to residents. Statements were

[26:17] made that there would be discussions

[26:19] with the other five affected cities from

[26:21] that contract. [clears throat]

[26:23] Uh there have been no updates since. Uh

[26:26] however, after researching the expense

[26:28] other communities face, I'm not overly

[26:30] concerned about the current rate. We're

[26:32] actually getting a pretty good deal. I

[26:33] think

[26:35] waste management changed their process

[26:37] though. The historic single trash truck

[26:40] that used to go around pick up trash, it

[26:43] still runs around, picks up well what it

[26:45] does is goes about 30 35 mph down the

[26:48] road looking to see if anybody has left

[26:51] any like yard debris next to the

[26:53] 96gallon

[26:55] containers. And then the other truck

[26:58] comes around, goes up one side of the

[27:00] street, bumps the down the other side.

[27:03] So effectively waste management has

[27:05] tripled the trash truck load on our

[27:08] meter streets.

[27:11] Um we all remain curious on the intent

[27:14] of the twice repeated agenda item to

[27:16] impose subdivision regulations in our

[27:18] ETJ.

[27:20] Uh it's an extremely complex subject.

[27:23] Uh, local government code chapters 212

[27:27] and 242

[27:29] allow limited control over platin

[27:31] infrastructure standards.

[27:34] Do not appear to be any provisions to

[27:36] mandate building codes or create zoning

[27:38] definitions.

[27:40] Steps to limit data center development

[27:43] seem to be universally agreeable to

[27:46] everyone not specifically wanting to own

[27:50] a data center.

[27:52] However, putting those buzzwords in an

[27:54] agenda item is counterproductive to

[27:57] establishing general standards

[28:00] that might achieve the desired result

[28:03] without being considered discriminatory.

[28:06] You can't just do something for data

[28:08] centers. Okay.

[28:11] Last month discussion identified naming

[28:13] apart for previously for previous mayor

[28:16] promly young. I as someone who solicited

[28:20] Lee to run for city council years before

[28:23] she did. I wholeheartedly uh support

[28:25] that. Um I'm going to have to shorten

[28:29] this. [snorts] Um it's encouraging that

[28:31] the parks department semiannual report

[28:34] indicates vegetation improvements at the

[28:36] memorial park. question is, is there a

[28:39] water source for the vegetation there? I

[28:41] recall, and I think Leah Young told me

[28:43] this, that the water for that park was

[28:46] primarily from the aerobic system that

[28:48] used to service the previous city hall.

[28:52] Of course, that's not operating anymore.

[28:55] And by the way, on the last thing, the

[28:57] 2.5% raise for the police department is

[29:01] about $50,000 total. and the total raise

[29:04] for

[29:06] city service fees will be $720,000

[29:11] per your budget.

[29:12] >> Thank you,

[29:14] » Thank you,

[29:14] Bill Green. [applause]

[29:20] » Thank you, Madame Mayor, City Council.

[29:22] Bill Green, still like him living on his

[29:25] street. I'm still on Vista Drive and we

[29:28] sure are getting a lot of rock trucks

[29:29] coming down there, but we'll talk about

[29:31] that sometime. we can get together. But

[29:33] anyhow, uh I didn't have anything in

[29:35] particular I was going to say till I

[29:37] walked in here, but then I got to

[29:38] thinking about things. And we're going

[29:41] to call this past, present, and future.

[29:43] The guys on this side of the room are

[29:45] the past. They grew up under a different

[29:48] group of people, a different way of

[29:50] thinking, a different way of doing

[29:52] business. A lot of times that business

[29:55] was never made to where the people that

[29:58] live here could tell what was going on.

[30:00] Okay, let's move along a little bit. The

[30:03] new guys over here, they're just now

[30:05] getting into this and we don't want them

[30:09] to have the same way of thinking as

[30:11] these over here. And we've talked about

[30:13] that. Not that you guys are bad guys. I

[30:16] just think you make bad decisions. I

[30:18] think you make decisions that are not

[30:21] helpful to the citizens of Willow Park.

[30:24] Roads. You still haven't done anything

[30:26] on roads. The roads were part of the

[30:29] campaign for the guys over here. Nothing

[30:31] has happened. Squawk Creek, nothing has

[30:34] happened down there. That was part of

[30:36] what everybody set their votes for on

[30:39] it. A lot of people placed their faith

[30:42] in you guys whenever you got elected,

[30:45] hoping that it would wash over to you

[30:47] guys here. Okay, that's past and that's

[30:49] a little bit of present. A little bit of

[30:51] present. We got things going with uh be

[30:56] uh excavation up there.

[31:01] Who's paying for it? Are any of our

[31:03] taxes going to that? Who's servicing the

[31:06] water that's going to come to it? Are

[31:07] any of our taxes doing that? Are we

[31:09] going to run out of water on that?

[31:11] What's going on? I mean, everything is

[31:14] hush, hush, hush.

[31:16] Now to the future. We're not the only

[31:20] city that are having these problems.

[31:22] Just about every small city or medium

[31:24] city in the state of Texas is having

[31:27] issues with their city councils, with

[31:29] their mayors, with everybody else that's

[31:32] there to make their life better. And

[31:36] some of them have found a way out of it.

[31:38] [clears throat]

[31:39] Trinidad, Texas, San Angelo, Texas,

[31:42] Abalene, Texas,

[31:44] Houston, Texas

[31:47] are all under investigation by the Texas

[31:49] Rangers

[31:51] because of the things that has come to

[31:53] their attention,

[31:55] but the government of Texas has put them

[31:57] in a position to go rectify it. They've

[32:00] arrested people.

[32:02] People have left town so they don't get

[32:04] arrested.

[32:06] There's more out there. I don't even

[32:08] know who all is out there. I just pick

[32:10] up on on what on what I see and what I

[32:12] hear. What I don't want to see is Roy is

[32:16] the Lone Ranger come riding in here in

[32:18] Ohio Silver and take you guys away. What

[32:22] I want to see is you guys getting back

[32:24] to taking care of the people that live

[32:26] here.

[32:27] >> Thank you. Thank you. [applause]

[32:34] » Okay, now we're going to go to item

[32:36] three. We're going to talk about the

[32:37] wildlife. And Jean, do you want to talk

[32:40] about that before we get our

[32:41] presentation?

[32:42] >> Yes.

[32:43] » Yes.

[32:43] >> Okay.

[32:44] » Okay.

[32:44] >> I'm Jean Martin. I'm still at 700 King's

[32:46] » I'm Jean Martin. I'm still at 700 King's

[32:46] Gate. Uh and I talked to a couple people

[32:49] that are here because they want to find

[32:51] out what's going on about deer. Okay. Um

[32:55] Sunday morning I went out just in

[32:57] Willowwood up King's Gate, down

[32:59] Queensway, and up Knight's Bridge. Just

[33:01] those three little street about 100

[33:03] acres. And I only counted 27 adult deer.

[33:08] 28 those seven bucks.

[33:12] And the bugs, boy, they're getting nice

[33:16] finery. Still a little fuzzy, but

[33:18] they're growing stuff. They're getting

[33:19] fed well. Okay. Um Oh, they were

[33:23] accompanied by 14 pawns.

[33:27] Okay.

[33:29] So, just in my neighborhood, we're

[33:31] looking at about a 50% increase in the

[33:34] size of the herd.

[33:37] Everyone I know cannot help but smile at

[33:39] the playful annex if you see three or

[33:41] four fawns jumping around in the yard.

[33:44] They're just beautiful. They're fun.

[33:48] Um, but those smiles turn to grimaces if

[33:51] anyone darts across the road in front of

[33:53] a vehicle, which they do. probably about

[33:56] the only way we have attrition in that

[33:58] herd.

[34:00] Um, so most everyone tolerates the herd

[34:04] of living lawn or that we have

[34:08] make a mistake, this herd is not

[34:11] wildlife.

[34:13] We're here to talk about game and

[34:15] wildlife, but they're domesticated.

[34:19] They're domesticated by people feeding

[34:21] them and everyone else accepting their

[34:24] presence.

[34:25] When I walk out of my house, often

[34:27] there'll be a dough.

[34:29] Does the dough run away? Nope. The dough

[34:31] take a couple steps for me to see if I

[34:33] have anything to eat.

[34:35] My neighbor stopped feeding them after

[34:37] she found that they they ate all her

[34:39] flowers and shrubs in addition to the

[34:42] food. These lawn ornaments are

[34:44] destructive. They are not malicious or

[34:47] dangerous, but they are a problem.

[34:51] Looks like I said the will the will of

[34:53] wood local herd will increase by about

[34:56] 50%. There's no natural predators in

[34:58] wildwood. At least not yet. That's a

[35:02] question I'm going to have I hope our

[35:04] representative answers. What's the

[35:06] likelihood of herd this size attracting

[35:10] predators into our neighborhood?

[35:13] Does anyone remember the founder of Wild

[35:17] Hogs that decided to make Squall Creek

[35:19] and the Clear Fork run their home base?

[35:21] This is like 2014, 2010.

[35:26] Um that was before Meet Place developed

[35:29] for Wilks. We [clears throat] found a

[35:31] trapper to gather them and relocate them

[35:34] and he did it for free. Actually, he

[35:36] relocated them to a honey preserve that

[35:39] paid him to bring them.

[35:41] Please consider if there's an available

[35:43] option to re relocate many if not all of

[35:47] our non wild

[35:48] >> Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay.

[35:50] » Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay.

[35:50] Now we're going to have the parks and

[35:52] wildlife representative to discuss deer

[35:55] issues. Kaylee is going to come and do

[35:58] our presentation for us. Hi Kaylee.

[36:00] >> Hi. How are you?

[36:01] » Hi. How are you?

[36:01] >> Good. Okay. Um so my name is Kaylee

[36:04] » Good. Okay. Um so my name is Kaylee

[36:04] Baduna Aught. I'm the wildlife biologist

[36:06] for Texas Parks and Wildlife. I cover

[36:09] Tarant Parker, Hood, Johnson, and

[36:11] Somerville counties. My primary

[36:13] responsibility is working with private

[36:15] land owners on game species, but we do a

[36:17] little bit of everything wherever we're

[36:18] needed. Um, I'm here today because I

[36:21] received a call about concern for urban

[36:23] deer. And luckily, this is something

[36:26] that we see quite a bit. So, there's

[36:28] some few publications that came out and

[36:30] I provided those. I'll talk a little bit

[36:32] about them today, but it's a problem

[36:35] that can be solved if you're willing to

[36:38] take the steps to do so. Um, so the

[36:40] first thing when talking to urban

[36:42] municipalities, HOAs, private land

[36:44] owners, anyone that thinks they have a

[36:46] deer problem, the number one step is to

[36:48] determine where we are. What do you

[36:50] decide the problem is and is it actually

[36:52] a problem? Um, so the number one thing

[36:55] you can do that is a deer survey. Figure

[36:57] out what your population is within the

[36:59] cities. Another thing that you can keep

[37:01] track of is the number of deer vehicle

[37:03] collisions. I know that three different

[37:05] fawns have been hit on the same access

[37:07] road of 20 this week. Um the amount of

[37:09] property damage that comes from it and

[37:11] then um doing urb or doing neighborhood

[37:15] surveys with the people to figure out

[37:16] their tolerance toward deer which we

[37:18] heard a little bit of. Um the next step

[37:20] is to be identify where we want to be.

[37:22] So just defining what success looks like

[37:25] whether that is maintaining the herd you

[37:27] have if your population you feel like

[37:29] it's a good number or if that's kind of

[37:31] thinning it out maintaining and getting

[37:33] it to a point where you can maintain and

[37:35] then the third thing is kind of bridging

[37:37] the gap. So where you are and where you

[37:39] want to be and kind of the strategy

[37:41] strategy to do that. That's kind of

[37:42] where I come in. We provide technical

[37:44] guidance. Um I'm giving you my

[37:46] professional opinion on it. It's all

[37:48] based on science based on research

[37:50] that's been done across the state. Um,

[37:52] for urban approaches specifically,

[37:56] there are kind of three approaches.

[37:57] We're kind of past the first one, but

[37:59] I'm going to talk about it anyways. Um,

[38:00] so there's planning for wildlife that's

[38:02] in developmental stages of cities and

[38:04] maintaining green spaces, stuff like

[38:06] that to kind of promote wildlife to stay

[38:08] in their wild areas rather than

[38:10] encroaching in those urban areas. Um, so

[38:12] it's just suitable use of natural

[38:14] resources and kind of reconnecting your

[38:16] society with the natural world. Again,

[38:17] that's more in the planning phase. We

[38:19] might be a little past that. Uh, number

[38:21] two is getting to the root cause. That's

[38:24] probably where we are right now. Um, so

[38:26] it's an environment that does not

[38:28] encourage overabundant deer. That's the

[38:31] goal. You want to have a healthy

[38:32] population that's maintainable. We call

[38:34] it carrying capacity. So whatever the

[38:36] land can provide for, that's the numbers

[38:38] you want. Um, ideal habitat in the Cross

[38:41] Timbers and Prairies eco region, which

[38:43] is where we're situated, is a deer per

[38:45] 25 acres. And that is completely ideal

[38:47] conditions. I mean like pristine

[38:49] prairie, rangeand, all the jazz. We

[38:52] aren't really that. Um so that would be

[38:57] that would be nice. It's just not

[38:58] possible. But um another thing that we

[39:00] talk about when it comes to

[39:01] overabundance is preventing feeding

[39:04] altogether, both intentionally and

[39:06] unintentionally. Uh we don't really want

[39:08] to feed any wildlife. And I can go into

[39:09] that a little more if you would like.

[39:12] Um, and it's important to allow your

[39:15] predators, your natural predators, your

[39:16] coyotes and bobcats to not be habituated

[39:19] to people. And that kind of goes back to

[39:21] the unintentional feeding. If people

[39:22] feed feral cats, raccoons, stuff like

[39:24] that, you're attracting coyotes. They

[39:26] get kind of used to people. They start

[39:28] showing up at parks. We don't want that.

[39:29] We want them to act the way that they're

[39:31] supposed to. Same thing with the deer.

[39:33] The third approach is the do nothing

[39:35] approach. Uh so this you need to prepare

[39:38] for increased loss of vegetation um and

[39:41] money that goes into landscaping. You're

[39:44] going to have increased deer vehicle

[39:45] accidents. You have potential for your

[39:47] deer to actually starve out or be

[39:49] congregated enough that diseases and

[39:52] parasites start to pass around and then

[39:54] you're going to have a decline of

[39:55] habitat for your other wildlife species

[39:57] like your small mammals, your song

[39:59] birds, stuff like that. And I have other

[40:01] things that I hope are going to be asked

[40:03] questions, but I have a little bit more

[40:04] to talk about feeding if you would like.

[40:07] >> So I have a a question. Do y'all have um

[40:12] » So I have a a question. Do y'all have um

[40:12] are y'all doing any trapping and

[40:14] relocating?

[40:16] >> So before I started as a biologist, we

[40:19] » So before I started as a biologist, we

[40:19] had a program. It was called traps trap

[40:21] transport and transllocate. It was then

[40:24] seized due to CWD being detected in the

[40:27] state of Texas. So, we no longer allowed

[40:29] transport of living deer at all across

[40:31] the whole state of Texas.

[40:32] >> What did you say? Explain that.

[40:34] » What did you say? Explain that.

[40:34] >> Chronic wasting disease. I do have that

[40:35] » Chronic wasting disease. I do have that

[40:35] to talk about. Sorry.

[40:37] >> I have no idea what you just said. Okay.

[40:39] » I have no idea what you just said. Okay.

[40:39] [laughter]

[40:39] >> Chronic wasting disease. Um, it was

[40:41] » Chronic wasting disease. Um, it was

[40:41] introduced in Texas and we don't want it

[40:44] to go into our native herd. So, it it

[40:46] kind of cut down on movement of wild

[40:48] deer altogether. There is a program that

[40:51] is TTP, which is trap, transllocate, and

[40:54] process. Um, I have a couple cities that

[40:56] do partake in this. Pretty much it's you

[40:58] pick a location that you're going to

[41:00] trap at. You can set a drop net, trap

[41:02] deer. Those get transported to a

[41:04] processing facility. They are processed

[41:07] and then the meat is donated. So, that

[41:09] is a program that we offer.

[41:11] >> Okay.

[41:13] » Okay.

[41:13] Wow. And that's your only choice? You

[41:15] don't relocate them somewhere else and

[41:16] let them run away?

[41:17] >> No, ma'am. Not anymore to diseases,

[41:19] » No, ma'am. Not anymore to diseases,

[41:19] especially urban deer. Um, so I have a

[41:21] couple diseases that I've actually dealt

[41:23] with um, in these counties, if you don't

[41:25] mind me talking about them really quick.

[41:27] Um, one of the number one things that I

[41:29] see in deer that are fed by people is

[41:31] laminitis, also called floundering.

[41:33] Floundering. It happens in

[41:34] [clears throat] sheep, goats, anything

[41:36] with hooves. Um, so pretty much what it

[41:38] is is it's caused by an imbalance of of

[41:39] a high carbohydrate diet. If you don't

[41:42] know what deer eat, they eat mostly

[41:44] forbes and brows. They don't eat grass.

[41:46] Um, and so whenever you feed them a

[41:48] whole bunch of corn and it's just carbs,

[41:50] they kind of lack that fiber, which then

[41:52] causes um a drop in pH in their

[41:55] digestive tract, which is called

[41:56] acidosis. Um, and then this causes

[41:59] reduced [clears throat] blood flow to

[42:00] all your extremities, and they get these

[42:02] really, really long hooves. So, it makes

[42:03] them painful for them to walk. They'll

[42:05] stop eating. You can hear them clicky

[42:07] clacking around on the road. Um, and it

[42:09] usually just causes a decline of health.

[42:10] So, I have seen that. And then in the

[42:12] springtime, I've dealt with a couple

[42:14] deer that die from pneumonia. Um, it's a

[42:16] bacterial disease. It's not susceptible

[42:17] to people or anything like that, but

[42:19] deer pass it around really quickly in in

[42:22] urban areas because they're so close

[42:23] together. And usually they're they're

[42:25] congregating at something that can pass

[42:27] it along. So, a bucket of corn, a bird

[42:30] feeder, stuff like that. So, it's on a

[42:32] surface and then they're just pretty

[42:33] much passing it deer to deer and then

[42:34] they will die from that. And then I can

[42:37] talk about chronic wasting disease if

[42:38] you would like, but we don't have it in

[42:40] our counties.

[42:41] >> So, do y'all um drive around like Will

[42:44] » So, do y'all um drive around like Will

[42:44] Park? would you drive around and see how

[42:46] many there are or what's your process?

[42:48] Right.

[42:49] >> So, for deer surveys, we can um provide

[42:51] » So, for deer surveys, we can um provide

[42:51] guidance on how for you guys would be

[42:53] easiest for you to do it. Um we have a

[42:56] couple cities that run their own kind of

[42:57] like a spotlight route, but it's a

[42:59] little bit of modified. They do it

[43:01] during the day. So, they start at a

[43:02] central location and they have people go

[43:04] out and do a minimum count of beer. So,

[43:06] it kind of gives you your minimum

[43:07] population. It's not. You'll have to add

[43:09] in a couple numbers to adjust for your

[43:11] fawn crop and stuff like that, but that

[43:13] would give you a baseline of the minimum

[43:15] number of deer you're seeing. That's

[43:16] under the assumption that where

[43:17] everyone's walking, you're not double

[43:19] counting deer, right? If you have people

[43:20] over here and over here, this deer's not

[43:21] running and they're counting it twice.

[43:23] Um, you also, there's a new thing that's

[43:25] coming about with drone surveys. Um,

[43:27] they're kind of new on the private side,

[43:29] but I haven't seen any cities do it yet,

[43:32] but it might be a good option. um you do

[43:34] a drone survey and it runs certain um

[43:37] like lines pretty much throughout the

[43:39] city and it's covering the whole thing

[43:40] and it's counting deer as it's going. So

[43:43] then you're getting an actual population

[43:44] estimate. Um we have people that do that

[43:47] and then you can provide me numbers and

[43:48] I can provide you with recommendations

[43:50] on hey your herd's too high your herd's

[43:53] you know you have too many bucks too

[43:54] many does stuff like that.

[43:56] >> So we get like volunteers with the city

[43:58] » So we get like volunteers with the city

[43:58] who are going to check the herds.

[44:00] >> Yes ma'am. Um, the one that I work with

[44:02] » Yes ma'am. Um, the one that I work with

[44:02] most closely, they have a group, I think

[44:04] it's a little smaller than Willow Park,

[44:06] but they have a group of about 20 people

[44:08] and they pick a main road, which

[44:10] probably for here's Ranch House. Um, so

[44:12] they pick a main road and then they have

[44:14] everyone has a sector and so they go out

[44:16] at the same time. They either do it uh

[44:18] pretty close to sunrise or 30 minutes

[44:20] after sunset. That's when deer are most

[44:22] active. Um, and they go out and they

[44:24] count and they pretty much get a minimum

[44:25] count of the population.

[44:27] >> Okay. Scott, you had something to add.

[44:29] » Okay. Scott, you had something to add.

[44:29] Can you come to the podium?

[44:31] >> Can I have to ask my left for real

[44:33] » Can I have to ask my left for real

[44:33] person? No, I'm asking for real. Can I

[44:36] come to the podium?

[44:36] >> Oh, I can I can answer. It's up to you.

[44:38] » Oh, I can I can answer. It's up to you.

[44:38] I don't know what you guys

[44:40] >> Yeah, I think you can come up come up to

[44:41] » Yeah, I think you can come up come up to

[44:42] the podium and if you have a question,

[44:43] I'm sure she can help answer that for

[44:45] us.

[44:46] >> Um, I'm a little bit of game in this cuz

[44:48] » Um, I'm a little bit of game in this cuz

[44:48] when I walked out to come to this

[44:49] meeting, I had like a dozen deer

[44:50] sleeping in my front yard. They sleep

[44:52] there every night. Um, I live near the

[44:54] spillway. Um, there's collateral to

[44:57] this. And while I think this is a thing

[45:00] that could be looked at, I think that

[45:02] the issue of coyotes is about tfold more

[45:05] important because there's not 10 coyotes

[45:07] here. There's about 50. And I hear them

[45:09] kill deer every single night in the

[45:10] spillway. So, if you remove the deer,

[45:13] you're going to have coyotes killing

[45:14] your cats, your dogs, and they walk

[45:17] through my neighbor's backyard during

[45:18] the day. Coyotes are nocturnal. So, I

[45:22] watched them walk down Creek at

[45:23] high noon. [clears throat]

[45:25] They're unaffected by this. So, before

[45:27] you start taking their food source away,

[45:29] you better address the coyote because

[45:31] one of my friends owns a thousand

[45:33] something acres north of here and he

[45:34] pays them to call them and he kills

[45:36] numerous coyotes every year. And I asked

[45:38] him if it's made a difference. He goes,

[45:40] "No, he can't keep his cattle there. He

[45:42] has to keep them in Gordon. They've

[45:43] killed every cat he's dropped in the

[45:45] last seven years." So, this is all

[45:48] great, but before you do this, I can't I

[45:50] called and said, "How do we can we call

[45:53] them if they're on our property?" I have

[45:54] a kid with special needs. She now

[45:56] understands the difference between

[45:57] coyotes and dogs, but when we moved

[45:58] here, we didn't. That was going to be a

[46:00] problem for the coyote.

[46:02] >> Okay.

[46:02] » Okay.

[46:02] >> So, I just need you guys to understand

[46:04] » So, I just need you guys to understand

[46:04] there's not 10 coyotes here. There's

[46:06] probably 30 or 40 living in that

[46:07] spillway.

[46:08] >> Okay. Thank you, sir.

[46:09] » Okay. Thank you, sir.

[46:10] >> Thank you.

[46:10] » Thank you.

[46:10] >> Thank you.

[46:11] » Thank you.

[46:11] >> Do you want me to touch on that? I think

[46:13] » Do you want me to touch on that? I think

[46:13] >> Yeah. How do we deal with that? Yeah,

[46:14] » Yeah. How do we deal with that? Yeah,

[46:14] >> kind I'm going to touch on it with deer

[46:16] » kind I'm going to touch on it with deer

[46:16] first because it kind of correlates the

[46:18] same way. Um, so the reason that urban

[46:20] deer don't move when they're being fed

[46:22] is because they don't have to. It's like

[46:23] a kid with a candy store. Um, if they

[46:25] have unlimited access to candy corn,

[46:27] they never once are going to touch their

[46:28] broccoli, if that makes sense. So,

[46:31] you're you're giving them a food source

[46:32] without them having to move to look for

[46:34] it like they normally do. Coyotes are

[46:36] the same way. So, you have a a large

[46:39] deer population and therefore you have a

[46:41] large coyote population. Um, if you can

[46:44] thin your deer, if you if you make your

[46:46] deer disperse, the coyotes should

[46:48] follow. That's not saying they will, but

[46:50] they should. Um, and again, I kind of

[46:52] touched on it a little bit. They get

[46:53] indirectly fed a lot in city situations

[46:55] when people are feeding raccoons or

[46:57] feral cats or stuff like that. They tend

[46:59] to also utilize the same food sources.

[47:03] >> Okay. Anybody have any questions for

[47:05] » Okay. Anybody have any questions for

[47:05] her?

[47:06] >> Yeah, you real quick. You had a

[47:07] » Yeah, you real quick. You had a

[47:07] statement about unintentionally feeding

[47:09] and I'm do we just not go with lovely

[47:13] plants in our front yard for this time

[47:15] period or what are some recommendations

[47:17] you could have for um keeping that

[47:19] unintentional feeding down as well

[47:21] please?

[47:21] >> So when we talk about unintentional

[47:23] » So when we talk about unintentional

[47:23] feeding it's usually like someone that

[47:25] puts out a a three pounds of cat food

[47:28] for the 87 feral cats they like to feed

[47:30] in their front yard. That's more what we

[47:32] refer to. And when in terms of an

[47:34] unintentional feeding, um, you're trying

[47:36] to feed other things. When it comes to

[47:38] ornamental plants, um, there's a lot of

[47:40] publications out there for Texas

[47:42] specifically about like deer resistant

[47:44] plants. Your deer are desperate enough,

[47:46] they're going to eat those plants cuz

[47:47] they already know that you landscape,

[47:49] they're going to eat those cuz it's easy

[47:50] picking. Same way, they have a food

[47:52] source. They're not going to move for

[47:53] it. Why not? Um, we can provide you

[47:56] those. Again, it's hard when you already

[47:58] have the problem to then landscape with

[48:00] deer resistant plants cuz they are

[48:02] probably going to eat them. But

[48:03] unintentional feeding is more like feral

[48:06] cats, raccoons, uh leaving out pounds

[48:08] and pounds of corn, you know, just

[48:11] trying to have unnatural attractants

[48:13] pretty much.

[48:15] >> So, I was told that Hudson Oaks uh has

[48:18] » So, I was told that Hudson Oaks uh has

[48:18] had an ordinance for years managing

[48:21] their deer population. So, that might be

[48:23] something we need to think about.

[48:27] there. I haven't worked with Hudson Oaks

[48:28] yet. I took over this position um about

[48:31] a year and a half ago. Uh since then,

[48:33] I've been to six city council meetings

[48:35] and four HOA meetings. Um and you know,

[48:39] we we pretty much go and we talk and we

[48:41] provide the knowledge that we have from

[48:43] ones that we've worked with in the past.

[48:45] Um we've had two that were really

[48:47] successful that they they implemented a

[48:49] feeding ban, they enforced it. um they

[48:52] did do TTP and it helped them quite a

[48:55] bit, but it worked for their

[48:56] circumstances. Um and they've they've

[48:58] had good success. That's there's not

[49:00] without caveats. Everything kind of has

[49:02] that. When you have, you know, people

[49:04] that want to look at deer in their front

[49:05] yard, you're just going to have them a

[49:07] little less. They're not going to leave.

[49:08] You're probably never going to get rid

[49:09] of them, especially when we're still

[49:11] surrounded by enough connected uh

[49:13] habitat. But um you know, it's just

[49:17] you try your best. You try your best and

[49:19] what works for one city hopefully can

[49:21] work for another, but there's really not

[49:22] onesizefits-all for this.

[49:25] >> Okay, Katie, thank you very much.

[49:27] » Okay, Katie, thank you very much.

[49:27] >> Thank you.

[49:27] » Thank you.

[49:27] >> I have I have a question.

[49:29] » I have I have a question.

[49:29] >> Okay.

[49:29] » Okay.

[49:29] >> We uh live on Mr. Drive and any day we

[49:33] » We uh live on Mr. Drive and any day we

[49:33] have 60 plus

[49:35] >> here and they're just right on the other

[49:37] » here and they're just right on the other

[49:37] side of my driveway. We've got a lot of

[49:39] open land out there. They sleep up there

[49:41] during the day, during the night. They

[49:43] roam all around through there. We've

[49:45] taken videos of them to show our

[49:47] friends. I know if I want to know what

[49:49] they are.

[49:50] >> And and and well, some of them even try

[49:52] » And and and well, some of them even try

[49:52] to come up and get in the garage. We

[49:53] have the garage.

[49:56] Um

[49:57] several of my friends at church want to

[49:59] lease my driveway,

[50:01] but you know, she won't let them.

[50:04] But [laughter]

[50:07] how do we get that many of them to go

[50:09] away? I mean they were there a barard

[50:13] and then there's another herd of about

[50:15] 25 right across the street and there's

[50:18] probably a dozen or more.

[50:23] >> Can I talk facing this way or do I need

[50:24] » Can I talk facing this way or do I need

[50:24] to talk facing you? Does it matter?

[50:26] >> As long

[50:26] » As long

[50:26] >> into the speaker. Yeah.

[50:27] » into the speaker. Yeah.

[50:27] >> Let me yell into this microphone really

[50:29] » Let me yell into this microphone really

[50:29] quick. Right.

[50:29] >> Um so I actually live in town funny

[50:31] » Um so I actually live in town funny

[50:31] enough. I live here. I'm a I'm a

[50:33] resident of Willow Park. Um, so the

[50:36] places that we've seen that implement a

[50:38] feeding ban, if they have two, let's

[50:41] just say if they have two or three

[50:42] people that aren't willing to follow

[50:44] through with it, the pro the problem

[50:46] will not solve itself.

[50:48] >> Um, so we're kind of [clears throat] at

[50:49] » Um, so we're kind of [clears throat] at

[50:50] the point where we're past, okay, it's a

[50:52] problem. You know, there's enough here.

[50:53] You're having them in your yard. Um, it

[50:56] takes time. It takes time. So if you

[50:58] stop feeding, there's also you can haze

[51:00] them again when you get to this point.

[51:02] Sometimes it'll work, sometimes it'll

[51:04] not. you can blow an air horn in your

[51:05] front yard, they might statter. They

[51:07] might have been here so long that

[51:08] they're just used to it and it won't

[51:10] bother them. Um, so it's pretty much

[51:12] trying to find what works. We always

[51:14] usually start with a feeding band. We

[51:15] suggest it. It's it's one of the easiest

[51:17] things that you can do because they're

[51:19] going to be hungry. They're going to be

[51:21] hungry and um I have the numbers. I They

[51:24] deer eat about 2,000 lbs of food every

[51:26] year. We don't have that to support

[51:28] them. um they're being supported by

[51:31] landscaping, by corn stuff drawing them

[51:33] into the area. For them to get that,

[51:36] they're going to have to go. Um and

[51:38] again, it takes it might you might not

[51:40] see it for a couple years, but they will

[51:42] go.

[51:43] >> Okay. Thank you, Kaylee. Yes,

[51:45] » Okay. Thank you, Kaylee. Yes,

[51:45] absolutely. Thank you.

[51:46] >> Okay. Next, we're going to go um number

[51:48] » Okay. Next, we're going to go um number

[51:48] five.

[51:52] » Hold on. Sorry, I jumped. Whoopsie. You

[51:54] want to go to four first? Let's do that.

[51:56] Okay. So, the discussion on wastewater

[51:59] treatment. Chase, you're going to do

[52:00] that?

[52:01] >> Yes, ma'am.

[52:02] » Yes, ma'am.

[52:02] >> All right.

[52:06] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, I

[52:09] set a schedule on in front of every on

[52:12] y'all's desk uh yesterday. Um, we are at

[52:16] about 94 to 95% completion. Um

[52:21] everything is there's a few touch-up

[52:23] things on chemical feeders and things

[52:25] that are still being installed. Uh the

[52:28] air diffusers and things have been

[52:30] installed. So we are basically at the

[52:32] point now that we have roughly about 2

[52:35] months of testing. So it's startup

[52:39] putting treated some treated water in

[52:41] there, testing blowers and testing

[52:45] mixers and certain things like that. Um,

[52:49] and like I said, we're looking at

[52:50] roughly close to two months or a little

[52:52] bit shy of two months on basically

[52:55] starting up and testing all of the

[52:56] actual equipment and then conjunction

[52:58] with the computer, the SCADA system,

[53:01] manually running everything.

[53:03] So, that's perfect. Fairly short and

[53:06] sweet.

[53:07] >> So, I I got a call today. Can you see

[53:11] » So, I I got a call today. Can you see

[53:11] who that is and have them lower, please?

[53:14] Their voice. I'm sorry it's distracting

[53:16] me.

[53:18] Who is that?

[53:20] >> I believe the biologist.

[53:22] » I believe the biologist.

[53:22] >> Okay. She can dare outside would be

[53:24] » Okay. She can dare outside would be

[53:24] really good. Okay. So, I did get a call

[53:27] from Pastor Clark Boer today from Willow

[53:29] Park Baptist. This is I'm going to guess

[53:31] his third time he's called me on this

[53:34] issue. Um, and he was talking about the

[53:37] wastewater that's on across the street

[53:40] and that he said it it smells, right? So

[53:45] he said it smells and the city was

[53:47] supposed to move it June 2025

[53:52] and so he needs that move so he can sell

[53:55] the property. So like I said it's like

[53:56] the third time he's called me on this.

[53:58] So he wanted me to bring it up cuz I

[54:01] someone must have told him or he saw it

[54:03] was on the agenda and he asked me are

[54:05] y'all talking about that? Yes, Chase is

[54:07] talk to us.

[54:08] >> We are in the process of doing that. We

[54:10] » We are in the process of doing that. We

[54:10] have the engineering drawings for the

[54:12] decon decommission of the old plant and

[54:15] we actually did have the bid opening

[54:17] today. So we're the engineer is still in

[54:20] review vetting bid openings and checking

[54:24] all the numbers on the bids to make sure

[54:25] everything is good on that end. But we

[54:27] are in the process of moving forward

[54:29] with the decommission of the plant.

[54:31] >> So maybe in another month or so I can

[54:34] » So maybe in another month or so I can

[54:34] talk to him about that that it's really

[54:36] going to happen. Uh yeah, I mean

[54:38] obviously like I said we had the bid

[54:40] opening. Once that gets vetted, it has

[54:42] to come to council to approve the bidder

[54:44] for the project itself. And then once

[54:46] that happens, we will have a far better

[54:48] timeline of where we're sitting.

[54:50] >> And we've got to have the new plant up

[54:51] » And we've got to have the new plant up

[54:51] and running first before we get

[54:54] >> Yes, there's there's going to be a

[54:55] » Yes, there's there's going to be a

[54:55] cushion between startup of the new

[54:57] >> decommission of the old, but we are in

[54:59] » decommission of the old, but we are in

[54:59] the process of trying to line everything

[55:02] out to where it's day to day, not week

[55:04] to week and waiting. So, we're preparing

[55:07] for all avenues on that.

[55:08] >> And startup with the new one is is it

[55:11] » And startup with the new one is is it

[55:11] two months out or

[55:12] >> we're looking at uh well the I mean the

[55:15] » we're looking at uh well the I mean the

[55:15] startup is going to be u starting up

[55:18] sometime next month but there is a lot

[55:21] of troubleshooting and testing because

[55:22] this this isn't just a manually ran

[55:25] plant like we're used to now. There's a

[55:27] lot of u electrical components like

[55:30] SCADA. So, it's going to be a lot of

[55:32] troubleshooting, making sure everything

[55:34] is properly functioning before we just

[55:37] abandon the old plant and then we're,

[55:39] you know, in an issue we can't get out

[55:40] of.

[55:41] >> So, how long does it take, cuz you know

[55:43] » So, how long does it take, cuz you know

[55:43] that, I'm sure. How long does it take to

[55:46] take the old one down?

[55:47] >> Uh, that I have not received the

[55:49] » Uh, that I have not received the

[55:49] schedule for the for the decommission

[55:51] yet. And once

[55:52] >> once we pick a contractor for that, then

[55:55] » once we pick a contractor for that, then

[55:55] they'll be able to provide one for us

[55:57] >> and the the contract days will be set.

[55:59] » and the the contract days will be set.

[55:59] I'm not aware of those yet.

[56:01] >> So, this might be on the schedule next

[56:03] » So, this might be on the schedule next

[56:03] month again maybe.

[56:05] >> Possibly.

[56:05] » Possibly.

[56:06] >> Yeah, that was going to be my question.

[56:07] » Yeah, that was going to be my question.

[56:07] Do you think the bids will be available

[56:08] by first meeting in August or

[56:12] >> days out?

[56:12] » days out?

[56:12] >> Possibly. Yes. I can't speak for our

[56:14] » Possibly. Yes. I can't speak for our

[56:14] engineering firm, but they're usually

[56:15] pretty quick on the turnaround for that.

[56:17] >> Okay.

[56:18] » Okay.

[56:18] >> Okay. Any other discussion?

[56:20] » Okay. Any other discussion?

[56:20] >> And we're going to be looking to

[56:21] » And we're going to be looking to

[56:21] potentially move that equipment to our

[56:24] facility we have that will be opening up

[56:26] since we have the

[56:27] >> Yes. there.

[56:28] » Yes. there.

[56:28] >> Yeah. Once the once the construction has

[56:30] » Yeah. Once the once the construction has

[56:30] gotten to a certain point with site work

[56:32] and things, it's going to clear space on

[56:34] the new location to store the old

[56:36] package plant. Yes.

[56:39] >> Okay. Thank you, Chase. Appreciate it.

[56:41] » Okay. Thank you, Chase. Appreciate it.

[56:41] >> Thanks, Chase.

[56:42] » Thanks, Chase.

[56:42] >> Okay, so number five, I think we've seen

[56:45] » Okay, so number five, I think we've seen

[56:45] him before. Jean, you want to talk on

[56:46] number five?

[56:47] >> Well, I told you could pull this. I

[56:50] » Well, I told you could pull this. I

[56:50] already made a comment about it, but I

[56:52] could repeat it if somebody didn't hear

[56:53] me the first time.

[56:54] >> I think we recorded it. We're good.

[56:56] » I think we recorded it. We're good.

[56:56] Thank you very much. Okay, moving on.

[56:58] Okay, item five, discussion and action

[57:00] consider possible subdivision

[57:03] regulations in the ETJ

[57:06] of Willow Park as it relates to data

[57:08] centers. And I think Eric put this on

[57:11] and Eric wanted to talk about this

[57:14] again.

[57:14] >> Yeah, absolutely. Um, still working with

[57:18] » Yeah, absolutely. Um, still working with

[57:18] our legal team to create something that

[57:21] we feel confident in to bring before

[57:23] council. These things take time. We're

[57:25] still working through it. So my um I'd

[57:29] like to table it to the next meeting. I

[57:30] think we should have it ready to go by

[57:33] then.

[57:35] >> Okay. So you've been talking to our

[57:37] » Okay. So you've been talking to our

[57:37] attorneys

[57:39] about this issue. Um

[57:44] so you want to bring it back again?

[57:46] You're tableabling it for now?

[57:48] >> Yes, ma'am. Uh table [clears throat] it

[57:49] » Yes, ma'am. Uh table [clears throat] it

[57:50] to the next meeting.

[57:53] >> Okay. Okay. If we're going to table

[57:54] » Okay. Okay. If we're going to table

[57:54] that, is there a motion to table the

[57:57] item? You want to make a motion to do

[57:59] that?

[57:59] >> I'll make a motion to table number five

[58:01] » I'll make a motion to table number five

[58:01] to the next meeting.

[58:02] >> Do we have a second?

[58:03] » Do we have a second?

[58:03] >> Second.

[58:04] » Second.

[58:04] >> All in favor? There you go. Okay.

[58:09] All right. And we have number six, the

[58:12] Jean. You busy man.

[58:14] >> I back again.

[58:16] » I back again.

[58:16] >> I asked for this one to be removed. I

[58:17] » I asked for this one to be removed. I

[58:17] got the information that I needed.

[58:20] >> Uh I don't want it removed. I have

[58:23] » Uh I don't want it removed. I have

[58:23] information that's here.

[58:24] >> My agenda item

[58:26] » My agenda item

[58:26] asked for it to be removed.

[58:28] >> You ask who?

[58:29] » You ask who?

[58:29] >> Our attorney and staff.

[58:31] » Our attorney and staff.

[58:31] >> Okay.

[58:31] » Okay.

[58:31] >> Don't make the

[58:32] » Don't make the

[58:32] >> I run the meeting so I should know about

[58:35] » I run the meeting so I should know about

[58:35] that. Did I get an email and I missed

[58:37] it?

[58:38] >> I don't know. I asked.

[58:39] » I don't know. I asked.

[58:39] >> Okay.

[58:41] » Okay.

[58:41] >> So, we need

[58:42] » So, we need

[58:42] >> No, he doesn't care. Okay.

[58:43] » No, he doesn't care. Okay.

[58:43] >> We need a motion to table it.

[58:45] » We need a motion to table it.

[58:45] >> I'll make a motion to table agenda item

[58:47] » I'll make a motion to table agenda item

[58:47] number six.

[58:49] >> Second.

[58:49] » Second.

[58:49] >> All in favor? Okay. I'll do it next time

[58:52] » All in favor? Okay. I'll do it next time

[58:52] myself then. Thank you very much.

[58:54] >> I did sign up to speak to an agenda item

[58:57] » I did sign up to speak to an agenda item

[58:57] posted.

[59:00] >> Okay.

[59:05] » I'm running the meeting. Go ahead.

[59:10] » Okay. So, I'm Jean Martin. I'm still at

[59:13] 700 Kingsgate Road. Um, the employment

[59:16] agreement for the Walpart city manager

[59:18] contains a sentence that begins with,

[59:20] and I quote, "Employee shall serve as

[59:23] the chief administrative and executive

[59:25] officer of the city."

[59:27] Quote,

[59:30] in local government code chapter 22, we

[59:32] find section 22.042

[59:35] entitled powers and duties of the mayor.

[59:39] First uh sub bullet a

[59:43] the mayor is the chief executive officer

[59:45] of the municipality.

[59:48] This employment agreement appears to be

[59:50] in direct conflict with state law.

[59:54] Actions by the city council throughout

[59:55] the past 14 months suggest that the

[59:58] designation in this employment agreement

[1:00:01] and the identical text in the prior

[1:00:03] employment agreement going back to at

[1:00:06] least 2022

[1:00:08] confirm it is and has been the intent of

[1:00:11] the city council to run will park

[1:00:14] as a city manager form of government.

[1:00:18] The for this form of government is

[1:00:20] defined

[1:00:21] and authorized by Texas local government

[1:00:24] code chapter 25.

[1:00:27] A possible issue arises by the manner in

[1:00:31] which the city council has implemented

[1:00:33] this policy.

[1:00:36] We find in local government code chapter

[1:00:38] 25 section 25.021 021 adoption of city

[1:00:42] manager form of government.

[1:00:45] The municipality

[1:00:48] by first holding an election on the

[1:00:50] question may adopt the city manager form

[1:00:54] of government.

[1:00:56] This required election is actually no

[1:00:59] different from the requirement to have

[1:01:01] an election to adopt a home rule

[1:01:04] charter.

[1:01:06] Far from entertaining an election on the

[1:01:09] subject, our council adopted the policy

[1:01:11] by approving an employment contract.

[1:01:17] It's related to ordinance 802 that was

[1:01:20] passed in 2019

[1:01:22] that established governance policy.

[1:01:28] And on that note, that particular

[1:01:30] ordinance only took questions from

[1:01:32] citizens last year,

[1:01:35] six years to get published as part of

[1:01:38] the municipal code that the citizens

[1:01:40] knew about.

[1:01:42] Thank you for your attention.

[1:01:44] >> Thank you. [applause]

[1:01:49] » Okay. Number seven is to discuss action

[1:01:53] to address the mayor being abruptly

[1:01:55] removed from the agenda setting process.

[1:01:59] I put this one on. So I request this

[1:02:02] item because as soon as Conniey's

[1:02:04] contract was approved by the council, I

[1:02:06] stopped receiving the team's meeting

[1:02:08] invitation to coordinate finalizing the

[1:02:11] agendas with staff. Treating me this way

[1:02:14] is insubordination and it goes against

[1:02:16] my statutory authority.

[1:02:19] Under the local government code, chapter

[1:02:22] 22, I received a legal opinion related

[1:02:25] to Tony's contract and my involvement in

[1:02:27] the agenda setting process. I requested

[1:02:30] to have the document posted online and

[1:02:33] there are extra copies available to the

[1:02:35] citizens and attendance over the desk

[1:02:38] where agendas are located. I don't think

[1:02:40] I saw those. Did we do that, Dena? Okay,

[1:02:42] she did not do that. So, the chief

[1:02:45] executive and recommending measures

[1:02:48] 22.042 042 as the chief executive

[1:02:51] officer. The mayor is tasked with

[1:02:54] actively ensuring laws are carried out

[1:02:57] and has the duty to recommend that is

[1:02:59] the duty to recommend to the governing

[1:03:02] body any measures or information related

[1:03:05] to improving the finances, health,

[1:03:08] security and good government of the

[1:03:11] municipality. My input on city council

[1:03:14] meetings agendas is vital to ensure we

[1:03:17] just had we just had a s a sample of

[1:03:20] this tonight. What happened? My input on

[1:03:23] the council meeting agendas is vital to

[1:03:25] ensure the items listed or done so in a

[1:03:28] way that informs

[1:03:30] I want to inform the public and making

[1:03:34] sure certain public documents are

[1:03:37] included in the packets is a

[1:03:39] responsibility I take seriously. It is

[1:03:42] my duty. Suggested motion is to amend

[1:03:45] the ordinance 92625

[1:03:48] to remove the word from the words

[1:03:51] section 1 that changed the city code

[1:03:54] 1.03.035

[1:03:57] addressing meetings and agenda.

[1:04:00] Do I have a motion to fix this issue

[1:04:03] from our city council?

[1:04:06] >> Mayor, did you say your duty was to

[1:04:09] » Mayor, did you say your duty was to

[1:04:09] inform the public? I'm just asking a

[1:04:11] question,

[1:04:12] >> right?

[1:04:13] » right?

[1:04:13] >> Okay. So, under section 22.042,

[1:04:16] » Okay. So, under section 22.042,

[1:04:16] power and duties of the mayor, C says

[1:04:19] the mayor shall give to the governing

[1:04:21] body, which is city council, any

[1:04:25] information, and shall recommend to the

[1:04:27] governing body any measure that relates

[1:04:29] to improving finances, please, health,

[1:04:30] security, cleanliness, [clears throat]

[1:04:32] ornament, or good government of the

[1:04:35] municipality.

[1:04:37] Are you keeping the city council

[1:04:39] informed?

[1:04:43] » I think that's what I think that's what

[1:04:44] these meetings are about. Is there a

[1:04:46] specific subject that you have a problem

[1:04:48] that you want to talk about in front of

[1:04:50] citizens?

[1:04:51] >> No, I'm I'm asking you a question. Are

[1:04:53] » No, I'm I'm asking you a question. Are

[1:04:53] you keeping the city council informed?

[1:04:55] >> I do. I send emails and I ask Dena to

[1:04:57] » I do. I send emails and I ask Dena to

[1:04:57] forward them to you. And I've seen she

[1:04:59] has included me on the emails that are

[1:05:01] forwarded to you. So, yes, that answer

[1:05:04] is yes, sir. I sure am. So,

[1:05:06] >> and I see those going to you. Yes.

[1:05:08] » and I see those going to you. Yes.

[1:05:08] >> So, when you're asking to get on this

[1:05:10] » So, when you're asking to get on this

[1:05:10] team's meeting with our attorneys, are

[1:05:13] you forwarding that information on to

[1:05:15] the city council? Because I have yet to

[1:05:17] receive anything.

[1:05:18] >> It doesn't come from me. It come It was

[1:05:20] » It doesn't come from me. It come It was

[1:05:20] coming from our attorneys and we

[1:05:24] actually had meetings before this

[1:05:26] contract happened. We had meetings and

[1:05:28] it was different attorneys. We have a

[1:05:30] lot of attorneys. We have like six of

[1:05:32] them we work with. that one of the

[1:05:34] attorneys would and Ashlin mainly the

[1:05:38] assistant would put it on the schedule

[1:05:40] and the calendar and at that point in

[1:05:43] time it did not come from me. I never

[1:05:45] did a teams myself. I was sent on my

[1:05:48] calendar to do a teams to discuss the

[1:05:51] agenda. That's what that what was

[1:05:54] happening and now I'm totally taken out

[1:05:56] of it and items are moving back and

[1:05:59] forth and things are being rewarded and

[1:06:02] I'm not being informed.

[1:06:04] >> So, one follow-up question to that is

[1:06:08] » So, one follow-up question to that is

[1:06:08] who was in attendance in those meetings?

[1:06:10] Was it just you and legal counsel or who

[1:06:13] else was on there?

[1:06:15] >> No, legal counsel, Dena,

[1:06:18] » No, legal counsel, Dena,

[1:06:18] and most of the time Tony would be on

[1:06:20] there.

[1:06:22] Okay.

[1:06:23] >> I used to be on that list as well. I

[1:06:25] » I used to be on that list as well. I

[1:06:25] have not received any teams meetings in

[1:06:28] the past probably month and a half

[1:06:30] either. My understanding was that it was

[1:06:32] more a like you request your items. The

[1:06:35] people that request it put it on there.

[1:06:38] There's really not a need unless there

[1:06:40] is a legal issue as how something is

[1:06:42] worded to have an hour plus meeting each

[1:06:47] time an agenda is set. like I'm not

[1:06:50] there to like if you have an item, I'm

[1:06:52] not there to talk you in or out of it.

[1:06:54] It's your item and vice versa. And so

[1:06:56] the legal team's review to my

[1:06:58] understanding, and please correct me if

[1:07:00] I'm wrong, but it's just to make sure

[1:07:02] that anything we place on the agenda is

[1:07:04] legally done and there's not any

[1:07:06] potential violation there. It's not a

[1:07:08] the source material is is ours to

[1:07:11] decide. The legal team is just to decide

[1:07:13] if what we're going through is legal and

[1:07:16] worded correctly and all of that. So I

[1:07:18] haven't been on any teams meetings as we

[1:07:20] used to be on those together but at this

[1:07:23] point it's been the last

[1:07:25] >> month or two that we I don't think we've

[1:07:27] » month or two that we I don't think we've

[1:07:27] had

[1:07:27] >> any I think it was very nice. It was

[1:07:30] » any I think it was very nice. It was

[1:07:30] very professional

[1:07:33] >> to have a meeting to discuss that with

[1:07:35] » to have a meeting to discuss that with

[1:07:35] the secretary and

[1:07:36] >> may I say something to possibly clear

[1:07:38] » may I say something to possibly clear

[1:07:38] some of this up. There was a discussion

[1:07:40] in executive session, but it was me that

[1:07:43] requested that back in February

[1:07:44] regarding my health and this this was

[1:07:48] discussed. Can I talk about that or do I

[1:07:51] need to not?

[1:07:51] >> Well, you don't have to talk about what

[1:07:52] » Well, you don't have to talk about what

[1:07:52] happened in executive session, but you

[1:07:54] can talk about whatever the concern is

[1:07:56] that apparently is still

[1:07:58] >> that brought this to the change that we

[1:08:01] » that brought this to the change that we

[1:08:01] are at now.

[1:08:02] >> That's fine.

[1:08:03] » That's fine.

[1:08:03] >> Okay. Um, if you all remember the city

[1:08:07] » Okay. Um, if you all remember the city

[1:08:07] council meeting on February 10th, I was

[1:08:09] I stepped out of the meeting and I ended

[1:08:11] up in the hospital with a potential

[1:08:13] heart attack.

[1:08:15] >> At that time, I was told lots of

[1:08:17] » At that time, I was told lots of

[1:08:18] different things and some scary stuff

[1:08:19] that might have happened to me. So, the

[1:08:22] very next meeting, I asked Tony to have

[1:08:24] an executive session with the city

[1:08:25] council to discuss the stress that was

[1:08:28] happening in this office regarding

[1:08:30] setting our agendas. It was going back

[1:08:33] and forth and back and forth all the way

[1:08:36] up till 5 or 6:00 on the day that we

[1:08:39] were supposed to post the agenda.

[1:08:41] Particularly on July 3rd of last year,

[1:08:44] my husband was in the hospital pass

[1:08:47] potentially passing away on July 3rd and

[1:08:51] I [clears throat] wanted to leave here

[1:08:52] at noon. That was the day that we were

[1:08:55] going to post the agenda. It was a

[1:08:57] holiday weekend and I was informed. I

[1:09:01] started getting information from the

[1:09:03] from the mayor that no, you can't do

[1:09:06] that. You need to send this to me. We've

[1:09:08] got to make these changes. And that

[1:09:09] lasted till 5:30 before I could leave

[1:09:12] this building to go be with my husband.

[1:09:15] So, it was due to the stress. And during

[1:09:18] that discussion, we talked about the

[1:09:20] fees for the city attorneys because

[1:09:23] there was discussion about how much

[1:09:25] money we were doing at that time.

[1:09:30] And it was decided as we came out that I

[1:09:35] think a a comment was made by Mayor Prom

[1:09:38] Croml to possibly limit the items that

[1:09:41] we have on the agenda to help alleviate

[1:09:43] some of the stress. And it was even said

[1:09:46] by Mayor Palmer, well maybe we need to

[1:09:48] pull back some of the stuff that we do

[1:09:50] with the attorneys because Ashlin, the

[1:09:53] assistant, she parallegal, she's

[1:09:55] awesome. She was actually typing up the

[1:09:58] agendas and I made the comment if she's

[1:10:00] doing it then why do you need me?

[1:10:03] >> I have done this job for 43 years. If so

[1:10:08] » I have done this job for 43 years. If so

[1:10:08] that that is why things are the way they

[1:10:10] are now. We're not trying to disqualify

[1:10:13] the mayor or the mayor pro Tim in the

[1:10:16] process. You're welcome to join us.

[1:10:18] You're welcome to call us and ask

[1:10:19] questions. Just don't belittle us and

[1:10:21] don't beat us up because we put

[1:10:23] something or change something you don't

[1:10:25] like. I hope no one does that.

[1:10:27] >> Well, you too, mayor.

[1:10:29] » Well, you too, mayor.

[1:10:29] >> I think Dena, I understand and you

[1:10:33] » I think Dena, I understand and you

[1:10:33] explained your health issues and I I

[1:10:35] sympathize with that and I know we

[1:10:37] >> I didn't I didn't bring this up for

[1:10:39] » I didn't I didn't bring this up for

[1:10:39] sympathy,

[1:10:40] >> but I want you to know that we do. Do

[1:10:43] » but I want you to know that we do. Do

[1:10:43] you have a backup to do your agenda when

[1:10:45] you're gone? I thought

[1:10:47] >> No, ma'am. I don't.

[1:10:48] » No, ma'am. I don't.

[1:10:48] >> You don't have anybody?

[1:10:49] » You don't have anybody?

[1:10:49] >> No, ma'am. I do not. I think the point

[1:10:51] » No, ma'am. I do not. I think the point

[1:10:51] what Dena is trying to make is is that

[1:10:53] we've set cut offs to to be able to get

[1:10:56] the agenda out as needed and you still

[1:10:59] continually to send information days

[1:11:01] after the cut off for agenda items.

[1:11:04] >> I have sat in those meetings as well

[1:11:07] » I have sat in those meetings as well

[1:11:07] >> meeting with our attorneys and it's

[1:11:09] » meeting with our attorneys and it's

[1:11:09] literally us paying them to tell us

[1:11:11] what's on the agenda.

[1:11:13] >> And I told Andy that's ridiculous. We

[1:11:16] » And I told Andy that's ridiculous. We

[1:11:16] spend an hour on the phone for him to

[1:11:18] go, item number one is this, item number

[1:11:21] two is this, item number three is this.

[1:11:24] It takes an hour. He has an attorney.

[1:11:27] He'll have a secondary attorney and

[1:11:28] he'll have Ashlin.

[1:11:29] >> Right.

[1:11:30] » Right.

[1:11:30] >> That hour is costing us over $800.

[1:11:33] » That hour is costing us over $800.

[1:11:33] >> Yeah.

[1:11:33] » Yeah.

[1:11:33] >> To have them on to tell us. But this is

[1:11:36] » To have them on to tell us. But this is

[1:11:36] a meeting that you're requesting,

[1:11:37] >> but it was happening three times a week.

[1:11:39] » but it was happening three times a week.

[1:11:39] Let's just address me one at a time.

[1:11:41] >> I am. That's what I'm saying. So I told

[1:11:44] » I am. That's what I'm saying. So I told

[1:11:44] Andy,

[1:11:44] >> so Dina,

[1:11:45] » so Dina,

[1:11:45] >> I'm still I'm still speaking one at a

[1:11:47] » I'm still I'm still speaking one at a

[1:11:47] time. Go ahead.

[1:11:50] >> So I told Andy that we do need to repeal

[1:11:53] » So I told Andy that we do need to repeal

[1:11:53] that back a little bit because it's

[1:11:54] absolutely ridiculous that we have to

[1:11:56] meet with our legal team just to be told

[1:11:58] what's on the agenda. And I and I'm not

[1:12:01] going to sit in a meeting just to be

[1:12:03] told what's on the agenda by our

[1:12:04] attorneys when we have a secretary and

[1:12:06] we have our city manager here to go over

[1:12:09] those items.

[1:12:11] >> Okay. I think if we review the bills,

[1:12:14] » Okay. I think if we review the bills,

[1:12:14] the agenda is very minimal compared to

[1:12:16] all the other $322,000

[1:12:19] necessary.

[1:12:20] >> Okay.

[1:12:20] » Okay.

[1:12:20] >> Yeah, they are.

[1:12:22] » Yeah, they are.

[1:12:22] >> RC had something

[1:12:24] » RC had something

[1:12:24] on this.

[1:12:25] >> I was going to say I don't believe it's

[1:12:27] » I was going to say I don't believe it's

[1:12:27] an issue of you being abruptly removed

[1:12:29] as the thing says. I believe there was a

[1:12:31] process changed and like if you're

[1:12:33] worried about a team's meeting, I'm not

[1:12:35] on it either. That was something that we

[1:12:36] used to either.

[1:12:39] I think we should reinstate that to not

[1:12:43] have what we just had tonight where I'm

[1:12:45] in the meeting, I'm running the meeting

[1:12:46] and then oh yeah, I took that off. But

[1:12:48] that's not

[1:12:48] >> I should know that, Nathan. Do you not

[1:12:50] » I should know that, Nathan. Do you not

[1:12:50] think that

[1:12:51] >> that's that's to me that's something

[1:12:52] » that's that's to me that's something

[1:12:52] that happens later. The agenda setting

[1:12:55] process was completed post the agenda

[1:12:58] agenda being set. Something changed.

[1:13:01] Something was provided that he needed

[1:13:03] that made the item no longer relevant.

[1:13:05] Those changes will happen. Eric didn't

[1:13:07] have what he needed tonight. We tabled

[1:13:09] it.

[1:13:09] >> Yeah.

[1:13:09] » Yeah.

[1:13:10] >> And so that is the action that you take.

[1:13:11] » And so that is the action that you take.

[1:13:11] It's not being removed. Did you know

[1:13:14] Eric was going to table his item?

[1:13:17] >> No. I think the difference is that

[1:13:19] » No. I think the difference is that

[1:13:19] >> he got

[1:13:19] » he got

[1:13:20] >> Scott had already talked to everyone

[1:13:21] » Scott had already talked to everyone

[1:13:21] else and knew he was going to do it.

[1:13:23] >> I got the information that I need and

[1:13:24] » I got the information that I need and

[1:13:24] you didn't have that information.

[1:13:26] >> I didn't have that information either.

[1:13:28] » I didn't have that information either.

[1:13:28] But when Scott said he had what he

[1:13:30] needed, then we were good. I'm I'm just

[1:13:32] I'm not trying to

[1:13:34] >> Mhm.

[1:13:35] » Mhm.

[1:13:35] >> I want to just to discuss the abruptly

[1:13:38] » I want to just to discuss the abruptly

[1:13:38] removed. In my opinion, there was no

[1:13:40] [clears throat] such abrupt removal. We

[1:13:42] have had a process.

[1:13:44] >> It changed.

[1:13:45] » It changed.

[1:13:45] >> We did.

[1:13:46] » We did.

[1:13:46] >> It changed. You and I are no longer on

[1:13:48] » It changed. You and I are no longer on

[1:13:48] these team calls. It is not just you

[1:13:49] being singled out. You

[1:13:51] >> I'm not saying I am.

[1:13:52] » I'm not saying I am.

[1:13:52] >> I think it doesn't say the mayor and the

[1:13:53] » I think it doesn't say the mayor and the

[1:13:53] mayor pro Tim. And so I I just think

[1:13:57] that it's a mischaracterization of what

[1:13:59] has happened here and it makes it the it

[1:14:02] shines poorly on our city staff. It it

[1:14:04] seems like we're cutting you out and

[1:14:06] we're not. This is a a process where

[1:14:10] >> Thank you.

[1:14:11] » Thank you.

[1:14:11] >> Let me Okay, hold on just a second. We

[1:14:13] » Let me Okay, hold on just a second. We

[1:14:13] need one at a time. Do you want to

[1:14:15] finish?

[1:14:15] >> I would like to finish real quick.

[1:14:16] » I would like to finish real quick.

[1:14:16] >> Go ahead.

[1:14:17] » Go ahead.

[1:14:17] >> I would just say like we have names next

[1:14:20] » I would just say like we have names next

[1:14:20] to each one.

[1:14:23] >> Not always, but yes. For the for the

[1:14:24] » Not always, but yes. For the for the

[1:14:24] most part, I'm looking at tonight's and

[1:14:26] with the exclusion of the deer issue.

[1:14:29] Uh, everybody has something next to it.

[1:14:32] Um, we don't we don't change we don't

[1:14:36] ask Eric to change Eric's. We don't ask

[1:14:38] Sean to change Sean's you to change

[1:14:40] yours. Nobody's changed theirs. So,

[1:14:43] >> well, there have been, but go ahead.

[1:14:46] » well, there have been, but go ahead.

[1:14:46] Well, if it is, then that's a legal

[1:14:48] question, then I'm counting on each

[1:14:49] member at this dis to have discussed it

[1:14:51] if they think there are any legalities.

[1:14:54] And that's fine. But we don't need to

[1:14:56] >> circle the troops and all go over this

[1:14:59] » circle the troops and all go over this

[1:14:59] one by one to discuss an item. You can

[1:15:02] call the attorney yourself and say,

[1:15:03] "Hey, this is what I'm thinking. Is this

[1:15:05] worded correctly? Is this in violation

[1:15:08] of anything? Can we do this because of

[1:15:10] Texas Open Meeting Acts?" It's not. We

[1:15:12] don't need the city manager, the city

[1:15:14] secretary, one of the city council

[1:15:16] members to jump on there with you to

[1:15:18] hear it if there's an issue. I mean, and

[1:15:20] like we talked about, you're the one

[1:15:21] that's going to disseminate the

[1:15:23] information to all of us if you if there

[1:15:24] is something based on the duties of the

[1:15:27] mayor. Correct. So, we're not we're not

[1:15:30] asking for any of this. Nothing is

[1:15:32] abruptly changed. You've not been

[1:15:34] abruptly removed. There's an agenda

[1:15:36] setting process that we try to follow

[1:15:38] and we're not there's there's no point

[1:15:41] in like Scott said having the attorneys

[1:15:44] go over this one by one if you're

[1:15:46] comfortable if you're the sponsoring

[1:15:49] member and you're comfortable with the

[1:15:52] wording then it stands you don't need to

[1:15:54] have a

[1:15:56] >> sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't

[1:15:57] » sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't

[1:15:57] mine get changed right they do get

[1:16:00] changed

[1:16:00] >> who changes them

[1:16:01] » who changes them

[1:16:01] >> well if there's a legal review I will

[1:16:03] » well if there's a legal review I will

[1:16:03] change something if It violates

[1:16:07] >> when the mayor the mayor requested this

[1:16:09] » when the mayor the mayor requested this

[1:16:09] item be changed to say abruptly removed.

[1:16:12] She took the language that I had on

[1:16:13] there and wanted it changed to what's on

[1:16:15] there not tonight

[1:16:18] and that's what we did.

[1:16:19] >> Thank you. I appreciate that. And I do

[1:16:22] » Thank you. I appreciate that. And I do

[1:16:22] think the amount of money we spend on

[1:16:25] the attorneys to do an agenda review so

[1:16:28] everyone knows what's happening is a

[1:16:30] good process. It was working very well.

[1:16:33] Um, if Dena needs a backup, I think

[1:16:35] that's something where we need to talk

[1:16:37] to staff about getting back up, but I

[1:16:39] would like to continue the process so we

[1:16:42] know exactly what's happening. Marcy,

[1:16:46] >> may I speak first, please?

[1:16:48] » may I speak first, please?

[1:16:48] >> Please. Please.

[1:16:49] » Please. Please.

[1:16:49] >> Okay, Tony would like to speak. Go

[1:16:51] » Okay, Tony would like to speak. Go

[1:16:51] ahead, Tony. Go ahead.

[1:16:54] >> So, I want to clarify what the agenda

[1:16:56] » So, I want to clarify what the agenda

[1:16:56] process is because maybe I'm missing

[1:16:58] something as far as what we're supposed

[1:16:59] to be doing. So, every member of council

[1:17:03] and the mayor gets to put items and

[1:17:05] staff get to put items on the agenda

[1:17:07] that are necessary for city business for

[1:17:09] the next meeting.

[1:17:11] I collect that information from staff

[1:17:13] and all of their items that need to go

[1:17:16] with it as far as their brief explaining

[1:17:18] as to what that item is and all of their

[1:17:21] backup data that goes with that, all

[1:17:23] their supporting data that goes with

[1:17:24] that. That is collected and put on the

[1:17:26] agenda by me. That is staff going

[1:17:29] through me. I collect that. I put that

[1:17:31] on the agenda. Council can tell you,

[1:17:34] they can tell me of items they want on

[1:17:37] the agenda as you also tell me or and or

[1:17:40] Dena as to items that you would want on

[1:17:42] the agenda. Those items typically do not

[1:17:45] have supporting information because you

[1:17:48] aren't required to have briefs on them

[1:17:50] to explain what that information is for

[1:17:52] the rest of council or for staff, which

[1:17:55] is fine. The point is that is the

[1:17:58] process. So there is no I like this, I

[1:18:01] don't like that. If they're ready to go

[1:18:04] before council, if the items from staff

[1:18:06] are ready to be presented to council for

[1:18:08] city business to move forward on an

[1:18:10] item, that item is put on the agenda.

[1:18:13] You forwarded to me a contact that had a

[1:18:16] problem with deer. We communicated with

[1:18:19] him. We communicated with the Texas

[1:18:22] Parks and Wildlife. That item got put on

[1:18:25] the agenda because we had a source that

[1:18:26] could speak about that issue. That is

[1:18:29] how that was done. The other items were

[1:18:32] put on,

[1:18:33] let it be known, none of this is staff

[1:18:36] items. Not the last agenda, not this

[1:18:38] agenda. Nothing has been staff city

[1:18:41] business. That's been on the last two

[1:18:42] agendas. So if council or the mayor has

[1:18:46] issues to put items that you'd like

[1:18:48] discussed on the agenda, those items are

[1:18:51] put on there per your recommendation and

[1:18:54] request. We now have sponsors that are

[1:18:56] added on there as well. So as well as

[1:18:59] executive session, the same process

[1:19:01] except the item the people who are

[1:19:04] requesting it are not on there. The

[1:19:05] sponsors are not on there for

[1:19:07] confidentiality purposes of not being

[1:19:09] targeted.

[1:19:11] So unless I'm missing something, that is

[1:19:13] the agenda process. There is nothing

[1:19:16] that is there's nothing drawn out.

[1:19:18] There's nothing magical. There's no

[1:19:19] secrets. There's nothing crazy going on.

[1:19:21] >> I'm not saying that, Tony. I'm just

[1:19:24] » I'm not saying that, Tony. I'm just

[1:19:24] trying to explain. I

[1:19:25] >> We had just a second. We had team

[1:19:28] » We had just a second. We had team

[1:19:28] meetings. That's what we did. And I got

[1:19:31] the agenda once y'all started putting it

[1:19:34] together. Sent it to me. We had

[1:19:37] meetings. We had with the attorney. you

[1:19:39] were on the phone. Yes. Dena was on the

[1:19:41] phone. We were on the teams and then if

[1:19:44] there were any changes then we I knew on

[1:19:47] the agenda what was happening before it

[1:19:50] got put out on a deadline. All of a

[1:19:52] sudden all of a sudden things were being

[1:19:55] put out and I'm like where did that come

[1:19:58] from? I didn't get to see that. I'm

[1:20:00] saying what I'm saying the process we

[1:20:03] had was a very good process. I'm running

[1:20:06] the meeting. I would know what's going

[1:20:08] on. I don't think we should change the

[1:20:12] process we had that was working. I hear

[1:20:15] what you're saying. Yes, I asked for

[1:20:17] sponsors. I want to know who's on it. I

[1:20:20] would like to continue as we were with

[1:20:22] the agenda. So, I am running the

[1:20:25] meeting. I know what's happening. That's

[1:20:26] the way it's supposed to work. Not just

[1:20:29] all of a sudden, oh, it's too late. It

[1:20:31] just got posted. Teresa, I didn't I

[1:20:33] didn't send it to you. So, mayor, let me

[1:20:36] uh clarify on me for end.

[1:20:39] >> Back in February, we were told that we

[1:20:43] » Back in February, we were told that we

[1:20:43] were no longer involved in the agenda

[1:20:46] process and that we would get a draft of

[1:20:49] the agenda on Friday and that would

[1:20:51] allow us to do a legal review once you

[1:20:53] meet your noon deadline. I believe it's

[1:20:56] on Tuesday. Correct.

[1:20:57] >> And that's what we were instructed to do

[1:20:59] » And that's what we were instructed to do

[1:20:59] by city council pursuant to action that

[1:21:02] was taken in an open session.

[1:21:03] >> That's correct. So if you are saying

[1:21:05] » That's correct. So if you are saying

[1:21:05] that you don't like that action, then

[1:21:08] your request is not that there's been

[1:21:11] some abrupt change, but that you want

[1:21:12] city council to reconsider. So that's

[1:21:15] the

[1:21:15] >> that is what I'm asking to reconsider. I

[1:21:18] » that is what I'm asking to reconsider. I

[1:21:18] [clears throat] mean the abrupt is seems

[1:21:20] to be a word that's a trigger word here.

[1:21:23] Take the word out, but I would like to

[1:21:26] request to go back to the process that

[1:21:29] we had that worked very well. Then I

[1:21:31] knew what was happening in a meeting

[1:21:32] instead of, oh, we have an attorney.

[1:21:35] It's fixing to be uh we got to stop the

[1:21:37] meeting at 8:00. We have an attorney in

[1:21:39] the back room that's going to be on the

[1:21:41] phone. Things like that. I should know

[1:21:44] those.

[1:21:45] >> We're always going to change. I mean,

[1:21:46] » We're always going to change. I mean,

[1:21:46] based on people's availability, whether

[1:21:48] it be Texas Parks or your staff, we may

[1:21:51] we have the flexibility. The Open

[1:21:52] Meetings Act allows us to move things

[1:21:55] around,

[1:21:55] >> right? That would be good to know. So, I

[1:21:58] » right? That would be good to know. So, I

[1:21:58] I'm sure that we can try and keep you

[1:21:59] more apprised, but I do know that you

[1:22:02] are emailed that you receive all of

[1:22:04] these emails cuz I get them and you're

[1:22:06] on them.

[1:22:07] >> So, I I I I don't know. I'm not sure why

[1:22:10] » So, I I I I don't know. I'm not sure why

[1:22:10] there's a claim that

[1:22:11] >> Do you have a call like with the

[1:22:15] » Do you have a call like with the

[1:22:15] attorneys? Is there any Do you

[1:22:17] >> Not anymore. No, that was taken off. So,

[1:22:20] » Not anymore. No, that was taken off. So,

[1:22:20] I did have calls that Andy got too busy

[1:22:23] and then Judy was going to be on some

[1:22:25] calls and all of a sudden, but she

[1:22:27] wasn't going to be at the meeting. So,

[1:22:28] we had no cohesiveness.

[1:22:30] >> Well, let me correct you there because

[1:22:31] » Well, let me correct you there because

[1:22:31] we have offered at least three different

[1:22:33] Mondays my availability for you to speak

[1:22:35] to me instead of Andy. That's true.

[1:22:37] >> You haven't.

[1:22:38] » You haven't.

[1:22:38] >> Right. Because you weren't going to be

[1:22:39] » Right. Because you weren't going to be

[1:22:40] at the meeting. Andy was going to be at

[1:22:41] the meeting.

[1:22:42] >> But I don't Okay. So, that is my

[1:22:45] » But I don't Okay. So, that is my

[1:22:45] request. I'm just asking Marcy, did you

[1:22:47] want to say something before we keep

[1:22:49] moving on?

[1:22:50] >> I just simply wanted to ask from what

[1:22:52] » I just simply wanted to ask from what

[1:22:52] I've been listening to here, it seems

[1:22:54] like there was a team's meeting that was

[1:22:57] standard operating procedure. Are those

[1:22:59] happening still with only staff?

[1:23:03] >> No.

[1:23:03] » No.

[1:23:04] >> No. And it wasn't standard operating

[1:23:05] » No. And it wasn't standard operating

[1:23:05] procedure either. It was a request by

[1:23:07] the mayor to be told what the agenda

[1:23:08] item was. We had a team's meeting that

[1:23:11] the Ashlin set up

[1:23:14] >> to tell Andy what to do.

[1:23:17] » to tell Andy what to do.

[1:23:17] You commented earlier. I told Andy,

[1:23:21] >> I made the suggestion.

[1:23:23] » I made the suggestion.

[1:23:23] >> I made the suggestion to Andy that these

[1:23:25] » I made the suggestion to Andy that these

[1:23:25] are unneeded because the purpose is to

[1:23:28] go through agenda items to tell the

[1:23:30] mayor what the agenda item is and we'd

[1:23:33] be on a call for an hour to explain to

[1:23:35] her what that agenda item.

[1:23:36] >> Scott, you didn't have to be on on any

[1:23:38] » Scott, you didn't have to be on on any

[1:23:38] call. Nobody else. I There were several

[1:23:41] times where I couldn't make the meeting

[1:23:42] if I had a a conflict with work and I

[1:23:45] would ask another council member to step

[1:23:46] in as the council representative and

[1:23:49] Scott was most usually readily

[1:23:51] available. So that's why

[1:23:52] >> he would be in there and I would agree.

[1:23:54] » he would be in there and I would agree.

[1:23:54] I I feel it was

[1:23:56] >> pretty much just going line by line. Any

[1:23:57] » pretty much just going line by line. Any

[1:23:58] legal issues here? Nope. Okay.

[1:23:59] >> From seven and $800 an hour two or three

[1:24:02] » From seven and $800 an hour two or three

[1:24:02] times a week.

[1:24:03] >> Well, I think that's a minimal amount.

[1:24:05] » Well, I think that's a minimal amount.

[1:24:05] >> I'm sorry. gets a minimal amount spent

[1:24:09] » I'm sorry. gets a minimal amount spent

[1:24:09] on agenda items that these meetings are

[1:24:12] very important for us. They're important

[1:24:15] for all of us and they're important to

[1:24:17] citizens. I think keeping the

[1:24:20] organization

[1:24:22] and the group as a whole and I am

[1:24:25] presenting it. I would very much like to

[1:24:27] be on a team's back as a group like we

[1:24:30] did before. So I would know things are

[1:24:32] changing before their final

[1:24:35] >> parliamentary requesting [clears throat]

[1:24:38] » parliamentary requesting [clears throat]

[1:24:38] >> Eric, would you like to say something?

[1:24:40] » Eric, would you like to say something?

[1:24:40] >> Yes. Parliamentary inquiry. Uh, who

[1:24:43] » Yes. Parliamentary inquiry. Uh, who

[1:24:43] controls the power of the purse?

[1:24:47] >> City council.

[1:24:48] » City council.

[1:24:48] >> Okay. And we voted on it. Thank you.

[1:24:50] » Okay. And we voted on it. Thank you.

[1:24:50] >> Thank you.

[1:24:51] » Thank you.

[1:24:51] >> What was that?

[1:24:54] » What was that?

[1:24:54] >> You keep saying that we are over on our

[1:24:58] » You keep saying that we are over on our

[1:24:58] attorney's budgets. We cut some things

[1:25:00] out. Um, so we're trying to control

[1:25:04] expenses. Mayor

[1:25:07] Well, I don't think the agenda was a

[1:25:09] small amount compared to everything else

[1:25:10] that y'all are spending. Eric,

[1:25:13] >> we're talking about lawsuits which will

[1:25:15] » we're talking about lawsuits which will

[1:25:15] cost money.

[1:25:16] >> Um, but if you look at everything else

[1:25:18] » Um, but if you look at everything else

[1:25:18] besides that,

[1:25:20] >> um, we have to make tough decisions or

[1:25:23] » um, we have to make tough decisions or

[1:25:23] else then we start looking at where else

[1:25:26] are we going to be cutting. Uh, are we

[1:25:28] going to raise taxes in the next budget

[1:25:30] cycle, which I don't want to do. I want

[1:25:32] to be below new revenue rate. That's

[1:25:34] always what I want to do because I don't

[1:25:35] want anybody having to pay more taxes

[1:25:37] than they should.

[1:25:39] >> That's a That's a good key phrase to

[1:25:41] » That's a That's a good key phrase to

[1:25:41] use. It is. Jeff, you want to say

[1:25:43] something?

[1:25:44] >> During the time that these meetings were

[1:25:46] » During the time that these meetings were

[1:25:46] held, was there ever anything found

[1:25:50] during that meeting that was worthwhile

[1:25:53] that needed to be adjusted, need to be

[1:25:55] corrected, need be reevaluated?

[1:25:58] >> Yes.

[1:25:58] » Yes.

[1:25:58] >> No. Yes, there was. And it was it was

[1:26:01] » No. Yes, there was. And it was it was

[1:26:01] very good to have the meetings and it

[1:26:06] was not a large amount compared to

[1:26:10] everything that we're spending. So my

[1:26:13] request was to amend the ordinance 92625

[1:26:18] to remove the word or the word section

[1:26:21] one that changed the code addressing the

[1:26:24] meetings. So that's what I'm requesting

[1:26:27] a motion. Is anybody going to make a

[1:26:29] motion as we sit here?

[1:26:31] >> Anyone going to make a motion?

[1:26:33] » Anyone going to make a motion?

[1:26:33] >> Just to be clear, um,

[1:26:35] » Just to be clear, um,

[1:26:35] >> from the numbers I've looked at, it

[1:26:38] » from the numbers I've looked at, it

[1:26:38] appears that all five council members

[1:26:40] combined attorneys fees when you look at

[1:26:43] all the the billing um is below just

[1:26:47] what you have as the mayor on the

[1:26:50] attorney's fees billing. So, um, we're

[1:26:55] doing a good job, I think, at managing

[1:26:57] our expenses. Um, but you, your

[1:27:00] expenses,

[1:27:02] don't laugh at him. Don't laugh at him.

[1:27:06] >> Okay.

[1:27:07] » Okay.

[1:27:07] I was getting one hour a week. That's

[1:27:11] what I was getting. And then that got

[1:27:13] cut out. So, I I don't think you can say

[1:27:16] I was spending a lot of money. So, okay,

[1:27:19] >> we need to move on. We're going to spend

[1:27:20] » we need to move on. We're going to spend

[1:27:20] all night on this subject. Apparently,

[1:27:22] y'all are not going to uh address the

[1:27:25] issue, correct the issue, and put the

[1:27:28] meetings back where they were. Y'all

[1:27:31] don't have an interest in that. I want

[1:27:33] everybody to understand the mayor does

[1:27:35] not have a vote. So Jeff again, yes,

[1:27:39] >> just to reiterate,

[1:27:41] » just to reiterate,

[1:27:41] >> these meetings were useful because I

[1:27:43] » these meetings were useful because I

[1:27:43] feel that these are being unjustly

[1:27:46] painted as $800 for an attorney to read

[1:27:50] the agenda to you. But it sounds to me

[1:27:53] like it is more than just that that come

[1:27:56] out of these meetings. You have actually

[1:27:57] found items that need discussed that

[1:28:00] need addressed.

[1:28:01] >> Yes,

[1:28:02] » Yes,

[1:28:02] >> I disagree.

[1:28:03] » I disagree.

[1:28:03] >> That's true. I just name an item.

[1:28:06] » That's true. I just name an item.

[1:28:06] >> Oh my gosh. Really, Eric?

[1:28:08] » Oh my gosh. Really, Eric?

[1:28:08] >> No. I mean, you said you just said yes.

[1:28:11] » No. I mean, you said you just said yes.

[1:28:11] No. Eric, stop. Stop. Don't be so silly.

[1:28:15] Let's be mature. Let's be professional.

[1:28:18] >> So, you'd rather spend $8,400

[1:28:20] » So, you'd rather spend $8,400

[1:28:20] a month to be told what an agenda item

[1:28:23] is.

[1:28:24] >> Like I said,

[1:28:25] » Like I said,

[1:28:25] >> Scott,

[1:28:27] » Scott,

[1:28:27] it is. It's the math.

[1:28:29] >> Very unprofessional. If you don't want

[1:28:32] » Very unprofessional. If you don't want

[1:28:32] to get it corrected and do it the way we

[1:28:34] did it before let's move on and not just

[1:28:37] go back and forth. We're not going to

[1:28:38] cross talk. We're not doing that

[1:28:39] anymore.

[1:28:40] >> Well, we could have no more. We're doing

[1:28:42] » Well, we could have no more. We're doing

[1:28:42] that. No more back and forth. Tony

[1:28:45] matter.

[1:28:46] >> Stop. You have not been You have not

[1:28:48] » Stop. You have not been You have not

[1:28:48] been acknowledged. Hold on.

[1:28:50] >> Excuse me.

[1:28:50] » Excuse me.

[1:28:50] >> One at a time.

[1:28:52] » One at a time.

[1:28:52] >> One at a time.

[1:28:53] » One at a time.

[1:28:53] >> Stop.

[1:28:54] » Stop.

[1:28:54] >> Yeah. Excuse you. Hold on.

[1:28:56] » Yeah. Excuse you. Hold on.

[1:28:56] >> Okay. God.

[1:28:57] » Okay. God.

[1:28:57] >> So, lacking a motion. I hear that

[1:29:00] » So, lacking a motion. I hear that

[1:29:00] there's no motion. So we can move on.

[1:29:01] >> Nope.

[1:29:02] » Nope.

[1:29:02] >> Correct.

[1:29:04] » Correct.

[1:29:04] >> Okay.

[1:29:06] » Okay.

[1:29:06] Not getting help on that one.

[1:29:09] Reports. Staff reports for second and

[1:29:12] third quarter. Item eight.

[1:29:14] [clears throat] Quarterly staff

[1:29:15] municipal court. Michelle Low.

[1:29:18] >> These are just in the packet. They're

[1:29:20] » These are just in the packet. They're

[1:29:20] not for discussion.

[1:29:23] >> If you had any questions on any of I

[1:29:25] » If you had any questions on any of I

[1:29:25] think

[1:29:26] >> Okay. Parks department. So we're not

[1:29:28] » Okay. Parks department. So we're not

[1:29:28] doing any reports. Mandy is not coming

[1:29:30] up. No, they're on the they're in the

[1:29:31] packet. We haven't like that.

[1:29:33] >> Okay. I think it'd be good to discuss it

[1:29:35] » Okay. I think it'd be good to discuss it

[1:29:35] in front of the citizens, but I guess

[1:29:37] you're not ready for that.

[1:29:39] >> Mayor, this is the way it's been on

[1:29:40] » Mayor, this is the way it's been on

[1:29:40] quarterly reports for

[1:29:42] >> years. Years. Like that's how we do it.

[1:29:44] » years. Years. Like that's how we do it.

[1:29:44] And if you have a specific question for

[1:29:46] >> a department here,

[1:29:48] » a department here,

[1:29:48] >> okay, excuse me, months.

[1:29:51] » okay, excuse me, months.

[1:29:51] It's been at least several quarters at

[1:29:54] this point. This is not a new process.

[1:29:55] If there are department heads to which

[1:29:57] you had specific questions, this is the

[1:29:59] way we reduce time to instead of going

[1:30:02] through each report one by one, we

[1:30:04] reduce the time and if there were

[1:30:05] specifics you had for each department,

[1:30:07] you could address those and I would say

[1:30:10] that if they are here and prepared to if

[1:30:11] you have questions specifically for the

[1:30:13] department, please do so because that is

[1:30:15] the purpose of this time.

[1:30:16] >> Thank you very much, Nathan. Okay, so

[1:30:19] » Thank you very much, Nathan. Okay, so

[1:30:19] we're going to skip down since no one's

[1:30:21] presenting anything. Is Gretchen here?

[1:30:25] I'm here.

[1:30:26] >> Gretchen. Okay. So, Gretchen,

[1:30:29] » Gretchen. Okay. So, Gretchen,

[1:30:30] >> why are we moving to Gretchen?

[1:30:31] » why are we moving to Gretchen?

[1:30:31] >> I had some questions I bet that you know

[1:30:33] » I had some questions I bet that you know

[1:30:34] and can answer.

[1:30:35] >> What?

[1:30:37] » What?

[1:30:37] >> Where are we going with this?

[1:30:38] » Where are we going with this?

[1:30:38] >> What What What item are we on on the

[1:30:40] » What What What item are we on on the

[1:30:40] agenda?

[1:30:40] >> We're jumping down to the project update

[1:30:44] » We're jumping down to the project update

[1:30:44] from Gretchen.

[1:30:48] » Where which is it on one of the specific

[1:30:51] reports? You mean?

[1:30:53] >> Yeah, it's it's Gretchen's second and

[1:30:55] » Yeah, it's it's Gretchen's second and

[1:30:55] third. That's what I'm going to ask her

[1:30:57] questions.

[1:30:58] >> Gotcha. So, if you use the item number,

[1:31:00] » Gotcha. So, if you use the item number,

[1:31:00] that would be helpful. You're still on

[1:31:01] item number eight, but you

[1:31:03] >> Yes, I am.

[1:31:03] » Yes, I am.

[1:31:03] >> Gotcha.

[1:31:04] » Gotcha.

[1:31:04] >> Sorry.

[1:31:04] » Sorry.

[1:31:04] >> All right.

[1:31:05] » All right.

[1:31:05] >> Mhm.

[1:31:07] » Mhm.

[1:31:07] >> Okay, Gretchen.

[1:31:08] » Okay, Gretchen.

[1:31:08] >> Are you ready?

[1:31:10] » Are you ready?

[1:31:10] >> Hi.

[1:31:10] » Hi.

[1:31:10] >> Okay. Okay. Is this construction work

[1:31:13] » Okay. Okay. Is this construction work

[1:31:13] being done right now along Bankhead

[1:31:15] Highway for the sewer line and the water

[1:31:18] line or possibly efficiently address

[1:31:21] both to accommodate the water main

[1:31:24] upgrade?

[1:31:26] [clears throat]

[1:31:26] >> Yes, we're doing Yeah, we're doing work

[1:31:29] » Yes, we're doing Yeah, we're doing work

[1:31:29] um on Banket Highway. Um the project

[1:31:32] consists of approximately 4,800 linear

[1:31:36] feet of 8 in water line and 4,900 linear

[1:31:41] feet of 10 in sewer line. So yeah, we're

[1:31:45] doing work out there. We started July

[1:31:48] 21st.

[1:31:49] >> Okay.

[1:31:49] » Okay.

[1:31:50] >> And it's um for water and sewer.

[1:31:54] » And it's um for water and sewer.

[1:31:54] >> Okay.

[1:31:56] » Okay.

[1:31:56] So, what entity uh made the decision to

[1:32:00] close Bankhead

[1:32:02] um for phase 2 project and when was that

[1:32:05] decision made and why was it made to

[1:32:08] close the road? How did that work?

[1:32:10] >> So, we had meetings with the contractor

[1:32:14] » So, we had meetings with the contractor

[1:32:14] about the work that was about to get

[1:32:17] started.

[1:32:18] >> Jacob Martin.

[1:32:19] » Jacob Martin.

[1:32:19] >> Yes, Jacob Martin. Yes. Um the

[1:32:22] » Yes, Jacob Martin. Yes. Um the

[1:32:22] contractor Sky Blue Utilities

[1:32:26] and um city staff.

[1:32:29] >> Gotcha. Okay. So, how and when were the

[1:32:32] » Gotcha. Okay. So, how and when were the

[1:32:32] notices sent to businesses along phase 2

[1:32:36] uh project road?

[1:32:38] >> I believe the first push was July 1st.

[1:32:44] » So, y'all contacted the businesses

[1:32:46] before that happened? Um it

[1:32:48] >> the city

[1:32:49] » the city

[1:32:49] >> um I through the city's Facebook page um

[1:32:53] » um I through the city's Facebook page um

[1:32:53] other social media platforms.

[1:32:56] >> I don't I can tell you

[1:32:57] » I don't I can tell you

[1:32:57] >> we that contacted

[1:32:59] » we that contacted

[1:32:59] >> June 29th signs were put out. July 1st

[1:33:02] » June 29th signs were put out. July 1st

[1:33:02] the first website and email messaging

[1:33:04] and Facebook post went out. July 17th

[1:33:07] was a second website and email messaging

[1:33:09] Facebook post and the work started on

[1:33:11] 7:20.

[1:33:15] But the city did not contact these

[1:33:18] businesses on the on um the road. Is

[1:33:22] that right?

[1:33:23] >> Not on Bake Head Road. No. Bank Highway.

[1:33:25] » Not on Bake Head Road. No. Bank Highway.

[1:33:25] No.

[1:33:26] >> Okay.

[1:33:28] » Okay.

[1:33:28] They were contacted through the same

[1:33:30] channels of everyone else was contacted

[1:33:32] being the website, the email messaging

[1:33:35] to our residents and our res and our

[1:33:37] businesses in our city limits. Facebook

[1:33:40] posts. Second website, email messaging,

[1:33:42] Facebook post. So, the same way that we

[1:33:45] tell everyone else to get our messaging.

[1:33:48] >> Okay. Well, I I personally got

[1:33:51] » Okay. Well, I I personally got

[1:33:51] complaints from business owners, spent a

[1:33:53] lot of time when they called um very

[1:33:57] upset that we did not contact them. Um

[1:34:01] some of them pay um their water bills

[1:34:05] through Willow Park. even though they're

[1:34:08] Alto, they paid the uh city of Willow

[1:34:12] Park and those were some of the people

[1:34:14] that were upset. We didn't contact them

[1:34:16] personally. When you shut the road down

[1:34:19] and the business is there and then all

[1:34:21] of a sudden it's very upsetting clearly

[1:34:25] when they reached out. Um and then one

[1:34:29] of them said that one of our staff hung

[1:34:31] up on a business owner and they got very

[1:34:34] upset and I I heard all about that one

[1:34:36] also. So, what I'm [clears throat]

[1:34:39] suggesting is we might going forward, we

[1:34:41] might try to call uh the businesses

[1:34:46] before we close the road right in front

[1:34:48] of their business to to help our

[1:34:51] businesses and our citizens out. I think

[1:34:53] that's something that we definitely

[1:34:55] should do. Um I don't see any reason why

[1:34:58] we shouldn't do that. Uh we know where

[1:35:01] they are. We can drive by them and they

[1:35:04] they pay the water bill. I don't know

[1:35:06] how many of them do. Maybe some are on.

[1:35:09] Well, I do not know that answer, but I

[1:35:12] think it would be a good practice going

[1:35:14] forward for uh the businesses.

[1:35:17] >> Mayor Palmer, I do want to correct the

[1:35:18] » Mayor Palmer, I do want to correct the

[1:35:18] fact the road was not closed. So, there

[1:35:20] was no through traffic. The road has

[1:35:22] never been fully closed. So, the traffic

[1:35:25] can get through and get to those

[1:35:26] businesses. And we did have a meeting

[1:35:28] with the contractor last Thursday. And

[1:35:31] there is a flagger there as of Monday

[1:35:33] that is trying to field traffic to get

[1:35:35] to the businesses. So there the road has

[1:35:38] not been fully closed at the point where

[1:35:40] they're doing the construction.

[1:35:42] >> Well, it was closed and then rerouted

[1:35:44] » Well, it was closed and then rerouted

[1:35:44] through a neighborhood and routed back

[1:35:45] and that was the complaint that I got.

[1:35:48] Yes.

[1:35:48] >> So I got several of them.

[1:35:50] » So I got several of them.

[1:35:50] >> There is a detour obviously so that they

[1:35:52] » There is a detour obviously so that they

[1:35:52] don't have traffic constantly going

[1:35:54] through.

[1:35:55] >> Are you a business owner back there? Is

[1:35:57] » Are you a business owner back there? Is

[1:35:57] that why you're waving at me? Uh, I

[1:35:59] tried to go through there because I

[1:36:01] heard that there was you couldn't go

[1:36:02] through there. It was completely closed

[1:36:05] off at 8:00 this morning.

[1:36:07] >> Oh, this morning.

[1:36:08] » Oh, this morning.

[1:36:08] >> So, this morning it was closed.

[1:36:11] » So, this morning it was closed.

[1:36:11] >> Wow.

[1:36:12] » Wow.

[1:36:12] >> Did you know that

[1:36:13] » Did you know that

[1:36:13] >> they're not starting at 8:00 in the

[1:36:15] » they're not starting at 8:00 in the

[1:36:15] morning for work, but there is a flagger

[1:36:17] that will be there during the day.

[1:36:19] >> But they totally closed the road down.

[1:36:20] » But they totally closed the road down.

[1:36:20] >> It should not be fully closed. There

[1:36:22] » It should not be fully closed. There

[1:36:22] should be the the barricade that goes

[1:36:25] mostly across the road to deter traffic

[1:36:28] from going through to interrupt the work

[1:36:30] that's already been opened.

[1:36:32] >> Okay. So, you're saying you couldn't get

[1:36:33] » Okay. So, you're saying you couldn't get

[1:36:34] through at all?

[1:36:36] >> Okay.

[1:36:37] » Okay.

[1:36:37] >> Yes.

[1:36:38] » Yes.

[1:36:38] >> How soon is it before school start?

[1:36:42] » How soon is it before school start?

[1:36:42] >> Two weeks, I think, when somebody called

[1:36:43] » Two weeks, I think, when somebody called

[1:36:44] me to complain about it.

[1:36:45] >> There was a meeting with Alto ISD today,

[1:36:47] » There was a meeting with Alto ISD today,

[1:36:47] so they're fully aware.

[1:36:50] >> Thank you.

[1:36:53] » Thank you.

[1:36:53] So, is there a plan?

[1:36:54] >> We we have another meeting scheduled

[1:36:57] » We we have another meeting scheduled

[1:36:57] with the school for for Monday um to

[1:37:00] talk about traffic flows, detours,

[1:37:03] emergency access, active road projects,

[1:37:08] communication channels for unexpected

[1:37:11] incidents, and um district operations.

[1:37:15] >> So, y'all are meeting Monday.

[1:37:16] » So, y'all are meeting Monday.

[1:37:16] >> The school Yeah. Um is Yeah. Um they

[1:37:20] » The school Yeah. Um is Yeah. Um they

[1:37:20] scheduled that. Um I think um the

[1:37:24] neighboring cities um were included um

[1:37:28] texter

[1:37:30] county we'll have more information.

[1:37:33] >> Okay. And so we'll once you meet with

[1:37:36] » Okay. And so we'll once you meet with

[1:37:36] the school again, you'll push it out on

[1:37:38] our our city site. So everybody needs

[1:37:40] everybody needs to look at the city site

[1:37:42] to get the updates because a lot of

[1:37:44] people that one that called me very

[1:37:47] concerned about school starting and and

[1:37:50] this traffic how are we going to get our

[1:37:52] kids you know

[1:37:53] >> to school right which is what y'all are

[1:37:55] » to school right which is what y'all are

[1:37:55] addressing right

[1:37:56] >> so the school scheduled the meeting so

[1:37:59] » so the school scheduled the meeting so

[1:37:59] we'll know more but yeah

[1:38:02] >> the schools the schools will push that

[1:38:03] » the schools the schools will push that

[1:38:03] out too on their student parent portals

[1:38:06] and everything as well too because

[1:38:07] they're going to have to reroute buses

[1:38:08] and things of that nature. So, I just

[1:38:10] know that because I've got kids in

[1:38:12] school still. So,

[1:38:13] >> traffic and safety coordination meeting.

[1:38:16] » traffic and safety coordination meeting.

[1:38:16] >> Great.

[1:38:17] » Great.

[1:38:17] >> When are you meeting with are you

[1:38:19] » When are you meeting with are you

[1:38:19] meeting with Skyblue on a daily basis or

[1:38:22] how regular is that? And are there any

[1:38:26] Let's answer that first. How often is

[1:38:27] that happening?

[1:38:28] >> Yes. So, um um I go out over there um

[1:38:31] » Yes. So, um um I go out over there um

[1:38:31] morning um afternoon. Um there's um

[1:38:35] Jacob Martin has an inspector on site,

[1:38:37] too. Um, and so if they have any issues,

[1:38:41] um, they call us, um, Chase. Um, so

[1:38:45] yeah, that's kind of how we're handling

[1:38:47] it. But, um, I went over there, um,

[1:38:50] today around noon, no, not noon, about

[1:38:53] 11:00. um talked to both well one of the

[1:38:56] flaggers. They had two flaggers and

[1:38:59] everything seemed to go I mean I did see

[1:39:03] cars going through but um they were they

[1:39:06] were doing the detours. Um I asked the

[1:39:09] flaggers you know um how how was it? I

[1:39:13] mean is it getting better? It seem seems

[1:39:16] to be I mean you get the occasional

[1:39:18] traffic. Um but for the most part I I

[1:39:22] think people now know how to you know

[1:39:25] follow the detour signs, how to get

[1:39:28] around where they need to go. Um I go

[1:39:33] home for lunch um every day. So I do I

[1:39:37] travel back to go home. Sorry.

[1:39:40] >> Um, so I've been able to do that um

[1:39:44] » Um, so I've been able to do that um

[1:39:44] during lunchtime after work um and and I

[1:39:47] I follow the frontage road um turn on

[1:39:51] new energy and you know just go back

[1:39:54] home back and forth. So,

[1:39:56] >> let me ask then if if we do have like a

[1:39:58] » let me ask then if if we do have like a

[1:39:58] flag or trying to get people through on

[1:40:01] each end of um the construction, would

[1:40:03] it not be is it an option then to ask

[1:40:06] them to open one side and just have the

[1:40:09] radio communications as we've seen on

[1:40:10] many of our two-lane highways throughout

[1:40:12] Texas to say

[1:40:13] >> so they had

[1:40:13] » so they had

[1:40:13] >> this group comes through now use

[1:40:15] » this group comes through now use

[1:40:15] [clears throat] the sideway.

[1:40:17] >> Yeah. So, they've got the two flaggers

[1:40:18] » Yeah. So, they've got the two flaggers

[1:40:18] and then there's another one kind of

[1:40:20] like in the middle just watching, you

[1:40:22] know, traffic flow um and letting cars

[1:40:26] go through um through through traffic.

[1:40:29] Um but um yeah. Um what So, they're

[1:40:33] going to be more, I guess, proactive.

[1:40:36] the flaggers are um because sometimes

[1:40:39] people just go through um that either

[1:40:42] are not going to the businesses or they

[1:40:45] just want to go through. Um so I I think

[1:40:48] they're just going to stop them and um

[1:40:50] inform them of what's going on and that

[1:40:53] that's one of what one of the flaggers

[1:40:55] told me this morning. They're explaining

[1:40:58] what's going on and how they can make

[1:41:00] the or or they can take alternate routes

[1:41:04] so that they don't have to go through

[1:41:06] the project work zone.

[1:41:08] >> Is the work taking place on both sides

[1:41:10] » Is the work taking place on both sides

[1:41:10] of the street?

[1:41:11] >> It it's um well the line's right in the

[1:41:14] » It it's um well the line's right in the

[1:41:14] middle,

[1:41:14] >> right? Is there that would be my

[1:41:17] » right? Is there that would be my

[1:41:17] question then to talk to Skyblue and see

[1:41:19] about opening up a a through route even

[1:41:23] if it's just to relieve some of the back

[1:41:25] to school, anything like that. Lane,

[1:41:26] we'll we'll more

[1:41:29] >> I touch on that.

[1:41:30] » I touch on that.

[1:41:30] >> There was Wasn't there an issue with the

[1:41:32] » There was Wasn't there an issue with the

[1:41:32] width?

[1:41:33] >> Yes, we we sorry to cut you off. We we

[1:41:36] » Yes, we we sorry to cut you off. We we

[1:41:36] did have a meeting today on site with

[1:41:38] the contractor, some members of the

[1:41:39] county, their engineering firm and our

[1:41:41] engineering firm. And that was that was

[1:41:44] the sole part of the discussion was

[1:41:46] trying to see if there was a way to make

[1:41:49] one lane either east to west or west to

[1:41:52] east open fully in the issue.

[1:41:54] >> That would be great. Well, that don't

[1:41:56] » That would be great. Well, that don't

[1:41:56] get your hopes up. Unfortunately, that

[1:41:59] the way that road is designed as it is

[1:42:01] currently that there's

[1:42:03] >> wider stretches and narrower stretches.

[1:42:05] » wider stretches and narrower stretches.

[1:42:05] You have

[1:42:06] >> drainage with um guard rails and things.

[1:42:08] » drainage with um guard rails and things.

[1:42:08] So, doing that will be very intermittent

[1:42:11] and it'll probably just create more

[1:42:12] confusion and for the alignment of the

[1:42:15] new utilities going in and it's going

[1:42:18] center line of road or slightly offset.

[1:42:20] And

[1:42:21] >> the issue with that is the equipment

[1:42:23] » the issue with that is the equipment

[1:42:23] that they're using. They're using a

[1:42:25] excavator to dig the trench right now.

[1:42:27] And at the depth they're at, they can

[1:42:29] use a midsize excavator, which setting

[1:42:31] up on the ditch line overhangs three 3

[1:42:35] and 1/2 ft into the other lane. Now,

[1:42:37] when they get a little further down,

[1:42:38] they're going to have to upsize their

[1:42:39] equipment due to the depth and it's a

[1:42:41] 14t wide piece of equipment. So, it's

[1:42:43] going to hang basically center line of

[1:42:45] the other lane. So, it's not going to be

[1:42:48] feasible. It's going to be more

[1:42:49] dangerous for everybody involved trying

[1:42:51] to squeeze cars in through one lane.

[1:42:55] So, that answered your question on that.

[1:42:58] >> So, we're getting a big no in the back

[1:42:59] » So, we're getting a big no in the back

[1:42:59] of the room. And what is your name? I'm

[1:43:02] sorry.

[1:43:04] >> Me?

[1:43:04] » Me?

[1:43:04] >> Yes.

[1:43:05] » Yes.

[1:43:05] >> I don't have anything to say about this.

[1:43:07] » I don't have anything to say about this.

[1:43:07] >> Nothing.

[1:43:07] » Nothing.

[1:43:07] >> It's horrible. It's more than the plan.

[1:43:09] » It's horrible. It's more than the plan.

[1:43:09] >> Okay.

[1:43:09] » Okay.

[1:43:09] >> And there is there was at 8:00

[1:43:13] » And there is there was at 8:00

[1:43:13] there was no flagger there.

[1:43:15] >> It was just blocked. So, what time do

[1:43:17] » It was just blocked. So, what time do

[1:43:17] the flaggers come on? If you got traffic

[1:43:19] at 8, how does that work that she's

[1:43:21] saying no one is there?

[1:43:22] >> We um I'm don't can't answer that

[1:43:25] » We um I'm don't can't answer that

[1:43:25] question, but I can definitely we're

[1:43:27] we're having weekly meetings with the

[1:43:28] contractor. We set that today. We're

[1:43:30] going to have weekly construction

[1:43:32] meetings to alleviate any road any speed

[1:43:35] bumps. We know it's been it's been a

[1:43:37] nightmare and a half trying to get this

[1:43:38] started, but we're

[1:43:41] >> bear with us. We're we're working lock

[1:43:43] » bear with us. We're we're working lock

[1:43:43] step trying to get this resolved as best

[1:43:46] we can.

[1:43:47] >> Marcy, you have a question.

[1:43:48] » Marcy, you have a question.

[1:43:48] >> Is there a way to be done through the

[1:43:50] » Is there a way to be done through the

[1:43:50] night? Will that alleviate some of the

[1:43:52] issue?

[1:43:53] >> Uh that has not been discussed. Um we

[1:43:56] » Uh that has not been discussed. Um we

[1:43:56] could possibly discuss this approach and

[1:43:59] it was 30 to 40% more.

[1:44:01] >> Oh, okay.

[1:44:02] » Oh, okay.

[1:44:02] >> For the cost for that and that is way

[1:44:05] » For the cost for that and that is way

[1:44:05] beyond our budget for this project. So,

[1:44:07] >> and I would just make a note on that.

[1:44:09] » and I would just make a note on that.

[1:44:09] Doing night work next to a subdivision.

[1:44:12] I think we'll have very a lot of angry

[1:44:14] people.

[1:44:14] >> Yeah.

[1:44:15] » Yeah.

[1:44:15] >> Okay.

[1:44:16] » Okay.

[1:44:16] >> Well, in that

[1:44:17] » Well, in that

[1:44:17] >> we have Chief Hamilton raising his hand

[1:44:19] » we have Chief Hamilton raising his hand

[1:44:19] in the back of the room. He has

[1:44:20] something to say.

[1:44:21] >> I was going to say I take my son here in

[1:44:23] » I was going to say I take my son here in

[1:44:23] the morning. So, usually going early,

[1:44:25] right before 8:00,

[1:44:26] >> they had set up so

[1:44:29] » they had set up so

[1:44:29] early in the morning when they

[1:44:32] start setting those cones up. So that's

[1:44:33] why you don't have anybody at that bar.

[1:44:37] >> Okay.

[1:44:37] » Okay.

[1:44:37] >> Once they get set up and everybody gets

[1:44:39] » Once they get set up and everybody gets

[1:44:39] there and you can easily they'll let you

[1:44:44] » have to go back and forth like 7 and

[1:44:47] then go back at 8:30 pick up back.

[1:44:50] >> Yep.

[1:44:50] » Yep.

[1:44:50] >> And 8:30 it's kind of locked down.

[1:44:53] » And 8:30 it's kind of locked down.

[1:44:53] >> It's up. Everything is up and they're

[1:44:55] » It's up. Everything is up and they're

[1:44:55] working but they'll let you.

[1:44:58] >> So if you pull up to the cones they let

[1:44:59] » So if you pull up to the cones they let

[1:45:00] they'll talk to you. electric

[1:45:04] line.

[1:45:04] >> Did you have your uniform on when they

[1:45:06] » Did you have your uniform on when they

[1:45:06] were letting you go through? Ah, you

[1:45:08] knew I was going to ask you that. Boom.

[1:45:11] Right there. I I would let you go

[1:45:13] through, too. Yeah, I would go on

[1:45:15] through here. You No uniform can't go

[1:45:18] right.

[1:45:20] Just Just wanted to throw that in.

[1:45:23] Does anybody else have questions for

[1:45:25] them before we move on?

[1:45:26] >> Yeah. Yes, Gretchen. on the Kingsgate

[1:45:29] » Yeah. Yes, Gretchen. on the Kingsgate

[1:45:29] road bridge replacement project. I know

[1:45:31] the contractor we were using went out of

[1:45:33] business. I know Tex's now trying to put

[1:45:36] the bid out. Do we have any sense of

[1:45:38] when that closes?

[1:45:40] >> No, we don't. Um I emailed um text last

[1:45:46] » No, we don't. Um I emailed um text last

[1:45:46] week um and they don't have any

[1:45:49] information. Um they basically told me

[1:45:52] once they do they'll contact

[1:45:54] >> okay

[1:45:55] » okay

[1:45:55] >> the city but no.

[1:45:57] » the city but no.

[1:45:57] >> And then one other question on the water

[1:45:59] » And then one other question on the water

[1:45:59] supply and infrastructure grant.

[1:46:01] >> Yes.

[1:46:01] » Yes.

[1:46:01] >> Uh house bill 500.

[1:46:03] » Uh house bill 500.

[1:46:03] >> Yes.

[1:46:04] » Yes.

[1:46:04] >> Um I know we have to have it submitted

[1:46:06] » Um I know we have to have it submitted

[1:46:06] by July 30th which

[1:46:08] >> it's approaching very soon. It we're

[1:46:11] » it's approaching very soon. It we're

[1:46:11] confident we're going to get that

[1:46:12] submitted. Correct.

[1:46:13] >> Yes. We just received the the copy of

[1:46:15] » Yes. We just received the the copy of

[1:46:15] the application today. We're going

[1:46:18] through it to be ready for submitt.

[1:46:20] >> Okay.

[1:46:20] » Okay.

[1:46:20] >> Yes, we everything's ready.

[1:46:22] » Yes, we everything's ready.

[1:46:22] >> All right. Perfect. And that was for up

[1:46:25] » All right. Perfect. And that was for up

[1:46:25] to $10 million and that would be used

[1:46:27] for Creek

[1:46:30] water um pipelines and other areas where

[1:46:35] we had major water leakage.

[1:46:38] >> Yes, that's correct.

[1:46:38] » Yes, that's correct.

[1:46:38] >> Right. Mhm.

[1:46:40] » Right. Mhm.

[1:46:40] RC

[1:46:42] >> that 2 million includes the 5.5 for the

[1:46:45] » that 2 million includes the 5.5 for the

[1:46:45] West Oak subdivision.

[1:46:47] >> That's going federal. Is that correct?

[1:46:49] » That's going federal. Is that correct?

[1:46:49] >> Yeah. So, um it does not um we were

[1:46:53] » Yeah. So, um it does not um we were

[1:46:53] going to um seek an alternate funding

[1:46:57] mechanism for that.

[1:46:58] >> That would be federal funding. Correct.

[1:47:00] » That would be federal funding. Correct.

[1:47:00] >> Yep. Versus states.

[1:47:01] » Yep. Versus states.

[1:47:01] >> Yes.

[1:47:02] » Yes.

[1:47:02] >> Based on income.

[1:47:03] » Based on income.

[1:47:03] >> Jean.

[1:47:03] » Jean.

[1:47:03] >> Yes.

[1:47:04] » Yes.

[1:47:04] >> Yeah. Eric actually prompted the

[1:47:07] » Yeah. Eric actually prompted the

[1:47:07] question. There's a electric billboard

[1:47:10] [clears throat] on the service road that

[1:47:12] says take the detour because King's gate

[1:47:15] is closed. Are we renting that or is

[1:47:18] that on text?

[1:47:20] >> Text.

[1:47:21] » Text.

[1:47:21] >> Okay. Well, you might recommend to them

[1:47:23] » Okay. Well, you might recommend to them

[1:47:23] that they put up a permanent side

[1:47:25] [snorts]

[1:47:27] >> until that. Yeah. Yeah. That that that's

[1:47:30] » until that. Yeah. Yeah. That that that's

[1:47:30] a state project. So, Texot's managing

[1:47:33] the project. Um they're inspecting the

[1:47:37] project. So yeah, they're overseeing

[1:47:39] everything.

[1:47:40] >> Thank you, Gretchen. We appreciate it.

[1:47:42] » Thank you, Gretchen. We appreciate it.

[1:47:42] Thank you.

[1:47:42] >> I do want to point out that the uh

[1:47:44] » I do want to point out that the uh

[1:47:44] repaving in front of Brookshshire's all

[1:47:46] the way down to New Energy yesterday for

[1:47:48] Tex dot, we were not alerted for that

[1:47:50] project or was it yesterday? Yeah, just

[1:47:53] yesterday.

[1:47:53] >> Text dot did not tell you they were

[1:47:55] » Text dot did not tell you they were

[1:47:55] doing that.

[1:47:55] >> That is correct. So,

[1:47:57] » That is correct. So,

[1:47:57] >> wow, that's huge.

[1:47:58] » wow, that's huge.

[1:47:58] >> I just it was inconvenient timing like

[1:48:00] » I just it was inconvenient timing like

[1:48:00] all construction is, but the fact that

[1:48:02] like every corridor had something going

[1:48:04] on was especially challenging. But we

[1:48:07] were not aware of that. So,

[1:48:10] >> okay. Okay. We're going to move on to

[1:48:12] » okay. Okay. We're going to move on to

[1:48:12] executive session. Uh the next items

[1:48:15] will be discussed in executive session

[1:48:16] as allowed by the Texas government code.

[1:48:20] Section 551.071

[1:48:23] consultation with city attorney. Section

[1:48:26] 551.074 [clears throat]

[1:48:27] personnel. Section 551.087

[1:48:31] economic development negotiations.

[1:48:34] Number nine is the city of Alo, Texas,

[1:48:37] and the city of Fort Worth, Texas versus

[1:48:40] Willow Park. Beline Ranch and Parker

[1:48:44] County. Cause number CV26-0175

[1:48:49] and Parker County 43rd District Court.

[1:48:53] Number 10, home rule charter and charter

[1:48:56] commission legal issues. 11, police

[1:48:58] chief position. 12 economic development

[1:49:02] negotiations with Bandidas Willow Park.

[1:49:05] The time now is 7:47. Thank you.

[1:49:19] Okay, we're going to reconvene into open

[1:49:23] session. The time now is 9:15.

[1:49:27] Does the council wish to make any

[1:49:28] motions related to the closed session?

[1:49:32] >> No action.

[1:49:33] » No action.

[1:49:34] >> Okay. No one has anything.

[1:49:35] » Okay. No one has anything.

[1:49:36] >> Hang on.

[1:49:38] » Hang on.

[1:49:38] [clears throat]

[1:49:39] >> No. Are we closing out the as of today

[1:49:42] » No. Are we closing out the as of today

[1:49:42] at 5?

[1:49:44] >> Yes.

[1:49:45] » Yes.

[1:49:45] >> Yes.

[1:49:45] » Yes.

[1:49:45] >> Okay.

[1:49:46] » Okay.

[1:49:46] >> So, we need to go and vote on that. You

[1:49:48] » So, we need to go and vote on that. You

[1:49:48] want to go ahead and do that?

[1:49:49] >> Yeah.

[1:49:49] » Yeah.

[1:49:49] Okay. So, we have a motion to close the

[1:49:53] uh resumeumés out off TML at 5:00 pm

[1:49:57] today. So, do you want to make a motion?

[1:49:59] >> Uh, yes. Uh, close out any more resumes

[1:50:02] » Uh, yes. Uh, close out any more resumes

[1:50:02] coming in after 5:00 today, unless

[1:50:04] they're postdated, I guess, or the email

[1:50:06] time stamp.

[1:50:07] >> Huh.

[1:50:08] » Huh.

[1:50:08] >> Okay. Do we have

[1:50:09] » Okay. Do we have

[1:50:09] >> Yeah. For I'm sorry, for police chief.

[1:50:11] » Yeah. For I'm sorry, for police chief.

[1:50:11] Yeah, I guess we

[1:50:11] >> police chief. Yeah. Do we have a second

[1:50:13] » police chief. Yeah. Do we have a second

[1:50:13] on that?

[1:50:14] >> I'll second. Oh, go ahead. No, you got

[1:50:15] » I'll second. Oh, go ahead. No, you got

[1:50:16] it.

[1:50:16] >> Nathan's going to second. Okay. All in

[1:50:19] » Nathan's going to second. Okay. All in

[1:50:19] favor? There you go.

[1:50:22] >> Okay. So, item 13 is city manager

[1:50:26] » Okay. So, item 13 is city manager

[1:50:26] comments, response, reaction to the

[1:50:29] meeting.

[1:50:30] >> No, ma'am. Just the uh community

[1:50:32] » No, ma'am. Just the uh community

[1:50:32] interest about Bearcat Nation is 101 is

[1:50:35] the back to school event that is at the

[1:50:38] Alto High School that is on Saturday,

[1:50:40] August 1st from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon.

[1:50:42] And so it is just an event for uh back

[1:50:45] to school that the city hosts uh excuse

[1:50:47] me that the that the school hosts the

[1:50:49] city will be there as we are every year.

[1:50:52] And then national night out again just

[1:50:54] to remind you put on your calendar is

[1:50:55] October 6th of 2026 at the district of

[1:50:58] Willow Park. And then our university

[1:51:01] schedule and our next will be in

[1:51:03] September. So more news to come for

[1:51:04] that.

[1:51:06] >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:51:07] » Okay. Thank you.

[1:51:08] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:51:11] » All right. Thank you.

[1:51:11] >> Okay. Number 14 is mayor, city council

[1:51:14] » Okay. Number 14 is mayor, city council

[1:51:14] comments.

[1:51:17] Anybody have any comments before we move

[1:51:20] on?

[1:51:20] >> Yeah, just a reminder of our uh or my

[1:51:24] » Yeah, just a reminder of our uh or my

[1:51:24] event, I guess, is the uh C coffee with

[1:51:28] Councilman. That is August 7th. That's

[1:51:30] that first Friday of the month. 8:30

[1:51:32] starts right at 8:30 a.m. and ends right

[1:51:36] at 9:30. I want everybody's hour um for

[1:51:39] that day. So,

[1:51:40] >> okay. Anybody's welcome to join. Open

[1:51:42] » okay. Anybody's welcome to join. Open

[1:51:42] conversation. No agenda. Love to see you

[1:51:45] there.

[1:51:46] >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Number 15,

[1:51:48] » Okay. Thank you. All right. Number 15,

[1:51:48] future agenda request

[1:51:51] by mayor and city council. I have some.

[1:51:53] Do y'all have some?

[1:51:55] >> We don't have agenda anymore.

[1:51:58] » We don't have agenda anymore.

[1:51:58] >> H

[1:51:59] » H

[1:51:59] >> We don't have that on the agenda.

[1:52:00] » We don't have that on the agenda.

[1:52:00] >> Yeah, it's my 15, but

[1:52:05] » you didn't put that on there.

[1:52:10] Dina, is that on the agenda?

[1:52:14] » You don't have it this time. Okay.

[1:52:16] >> Number 15 is not there.

[1:52:17] » Number 15 is not there.

[1:52:17] >> All I've got 14.

[1:52:19] » All I've got 14.

[1:52:19] >> All right. I'm used to putting that on

[1:52:21] » All right. I'm used to putting that on

[1:52:21] the end. So, I guess, uh, we'll be

[1:52:23] turning them in to you, Dina, as our

[1:52:26] request.

[1:52:27] >> So, um, moving on to adjourn. Is there a

[1:52:30] » So, um, moving on to adjourn. Is there a

[1:52:30] motion to adjurnn?

[1:52:31] >> I move we adjourn.

[1:52:33] » I move we adjourn.

[1:52:33] >> We have a second.

[1:52:34] » We have a second.

[1:52:34] >> Second.

[1:52:35] » Second.

[1:52:35] >> Scott's first. Second. All in favor? Hi.

[1:52:38] » Scott's first. Second. All in favor? Hi.

[1:52:38] >> There you go. Good night. Thank you very

[1:52:40] » There you go. Good night. Thank you very

[1:52:40] much.

July 28 2026 City Council meeting

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