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[3:08] Please Good evening, everyone Please take your seats.

[3:16] Not on.

[3:18] Hello Don't.

[3:23] Don't put on the model OK.

[3:25] Sit down.

[3:26] Usually my voice is loud enough to get everybody to settle

[3:30] down Please take your seats.

[3:32] Please turn your phones off or put them on vibrate, please.

[3:38] And after we start the meeting, we have a proclamation

[3:40] before a public comment.

[3:43] And for the proclamation, we have a few people outside that

[3:47] would like to come in for that.

[3:49] So if anybody, when the proclamation

[3:52] starts, if you would, please volunteer to go outside.

[3:55] We need about five of you but you'll be put

[3:59] right Don't do it right now.

[4:00] You don't really right now I'll let you

[4:02] know when you have to leave.

[4:03] But you're going to be put right by the front door.

[4:05] So as soon as the recreation is done they'll.

[4:08] They'll let you right back in Because, Dana,

[4:09] if right now you're okay everybody understand?

[4:13] Everybody ready ?

[4:15] Yeah.

[4:15] Senior manager.

[4:16] You ready ?

[4:17] City Clerk.

[4:18] Are you ready?

[4:18] Yes Oh.

[4:19] City.

[4:20] City Commission Everybody good?

[4:22] Yeah.

[4:22] OK.

[4:23] All right I'm.

[4:25] I call a city commission meeting on Tuesday, August 25th.

[4:29] That 705 to order.

[4:31] Please stand For the pledge.

[5:04] I guess a lot of you are aware that Dolly

[5:07] Parton died today And I'm.

[5:11] That's all right.

[5:11] Let's go out She was really big on a couple of things.

[5:16] She was very big advocate for the LGBTQ community

[5:19] and she was really big on kids reading She had a big fund

[5:24] foundation that a lot of her money went to buying books

[5:28] for underprivileged kids.

[5:29] And so we are going to have the commission will allow me to put

[5:34] the colors of pink and purple for Dolly for the week

[5:39] and lower the American flag and the LGBTQ flag.

[5:43] So it's been a moment of silence for sweet woman Dolly Parton

[6:01] Thank you Roll call, please.

[6:06] Commissioner Rocky Brockie, you're commissioner Armenia.

[6:09] You're Commissioner rowley here.

[6:11] Vice Mayor Caputo here.

[6:12] Mayor Newton here Changes and additions.

[6:16] I like to move the Community Affairs Board to right

[6:21] after the consent agenda, if everybody doesn't mind Sure.

[6:24] Sure.

[6:25] And then since we have a lot of people here,

[6:27] I think are not for some of the other things on here.

[6:31] I think they're here for the alibi property has a lot of us

[6:36] call it How about can we move Article 30 and table

[6:39] it to a meeting down the road?

[6:42] If everybody's okay with it?

[6:43] I support that But you want to table it for a meeting?

[6:47] Yeah at the next meeting or second?

[6:49] Can we.

[6:50] Can we do it at the next meeting?

[6:51] Yeah.

[6:52] Oh, I would agree to a table.

[6:54] Right.

[6:55] OK Anybody else?

[6:56] I have two items, please.

[6:57] Sure.

[6:58] The First presentation was a presentation for a grant.

[7:03] The board member that was going to present it

[7:05] is an able to be here this evening.

[7:06] So we will move that to the next city commission meeting

[7:10] We'd also like to table item 13 a related to parking, parking,

[7:17] RFP that will come back at the next meeting

[7:20] as well I would like to add a topic at the end.

[7:25] New Business Rules about agenda packets,

[7:29] rules and about agenda packets.

[7:31] Sure Anybody else ?

[7:45] No.

[7:46] No OK, we'll move on All right.

[7:51] Now, is there anybody that would please go outside?

[7:56] We need Five people.

[7:58] And then we'll bring you right back in, I promise right after i

[8:04] Where's her own?

[8:04] By where He's got other areas.

[8:08] Come on up Come on up Don't be shy

[8:18] Yeah Which way for your people to get in here for a second?

[8:25] Yeah If you can come in.

[8:27] Yeah, I know.

[8:28] I mean everyone, come on in Money and come on in.

[8:32] Go on in.

[8:32] You come up and take pictures.

[8:33] If you.

[8:34] Come on this, okay?

[8:35] Yes, please.

[8:36] You come over here if you want.

[8:37] Probably another appropriate It's hot anywhere

[8:43] And that's good.

[8:45] It's warm in here.

[8:46] Appreciate it.

[8:47] Is Hey, I got everybody here that was going to come in You

[8:53] know, they're all in there.

[8:54] I know.

[8:55] Yeah.

[8:55] OK All right.

[8:57] We're HIV prevention remains a vital public health priority.

[9:01] And advances in prep have transformed from HIV prevention

[9:05] and helping reduce new HIV infections.

[9:09] Whereas heroin by haroon Sarah has dedicated years

[9:14] to advanced HIV prevention in the city of Wilton Manors

[9:17] and South Florida through education advocacy, community

[9:22] outreach and connecting hundreds of individuals

[9:24] to HIV prevention services and care And his leadership

[9:29] and commitment have helped reduce stigma

[9:31] and expanded awareness of Prep encourages HIV testing

[9:36] and improve access to improves access

[9:40] to life saving prevention resources

[9:43] The city will manage recognized the importance of honoring

[9:45] individuals who serve strengthens the health

[9:48] and well-being of the community, will continue to promote HIV

[9:51] prevention and health equity.

[9:54] therefore, the mayor of the city will Mainers and the city

[9:56] manager do hereby proclaim that August August 27th,

[10:00] 2002 weeks as HIV five Prevention and prep awareness

[10:03] day and in recognition of the outstanding contributions

[10:07] descriptions of heroin by prevention I say, running

[10:12] the route out of what I say.

[10:14] Oh, I say oh, sorry that's what I do I see.

[10:19] If I remember now, I will prevention and public health

[10:22] and encourage all residents to learn about HIV prevention,

[10:25] get tested and know their status and consider prep as part

[10:29] of ending the hIV epidemic And we thank you for what

[10:33] you've done for our community Would

[10:45] you like to say a few words ?

[10:47] If you.

[10:47] I mean, I can talk forever, trust.

[10:50] I'll give you three minutes.

[10:52] Know One minute.

[10:52] That's enough.

[10:53] Actually.

[10:53] Thank you very much, Mayor.

[10:55] Commissioners vice mayor, everyone actually

[10:57] thought I is the same story.

[10:59] Probably.

[10:59] I tell myself that all the time.

[11:01] But i'll say it again.

[11:02] Um, so I move there.

[11:05] Five years ago from the Middle East

[11:07] not knowing what HIV, HIV means actually, or prep means.

[11:11] And, um, I came to Alton Manors and they didn't even

[11:14] know that something like this, you

[11:15] know when, when you're a gay man living in, in in the Arab world

[11:20] your dream is to have like, to build something like this,

[11:22] you know, like, oh, my God, a city where everyone is.

[11:25] Well, mostly sorry.

[11:25] You know, most of people like, oh, yeah, absolutely.

[11:29] That's a dream.

[11:30] But then it actually it's the truth.

[11:32] So i came here, and I started meeting people.

[11:35] I remember i mean, I met.

[11:37] I met a lot of people in this room,

[11:39] like I hopefully you guys remember.

[11:41] Oh, yeah.

[11:41] But um One of the first people was

[11:45] the vice mayor, Chris Caputo.

[11:46] Actually, that I met here.

[11:48] And I met I know.

[11:49] And then I met commissioner Don Commissioner Mike.

[11:53] I didn't get to meet you.

[11:55] Paul.

[11:55] Sorry, but.

[11:56] Or the mayor here.

[11:57] But yeah and I got the support of the community and I worked.

[12:03] I've been working for H.f. for almost four years,

[12:05] and we have been helping a lot of people and prevention

[12:09] and treatment of HIV I am really honored today

[12:13] and blessed that I am part of this beautiful city.

[12:17] So hopefully we can do better There's

[12:20] a lot Thank you for all You do.

[12:29] You Congrats You know you can Thank you this way I get

[12:44] in trouble for that rule I come in the synagogues,

[12:50] take pictures Very nice And i'll hear oh congratulations.

[13:10] Thank you.

[13:11] All right Thank you You know, faces

[13:28] That's good I'm glad we could do stuff like this Them

[13:40] to come back and Yeah.

[13:42] And everybody come back in that they went out

[13:46] thank you very much for doing that for us so any empty seats

[13:50] that people can show other people standing

[13:53] up in the back now no open seats anywhere You got one over here.

[14:00] So may want to sit down Nobody wants to sit down

[14:03] and got open seat over here So All right.

[14:08] I'm going over there for people now.

[14:09] There's one more.

[14:10] There, too, in the front.

[14:11] And you guys left here now.

[14:14] OK All right.

[14:15] Presentations Chief Thank you.

[14:32] You, Mr. Mayor.

[14:33] Our city commission.

[14:34] I want to thank you all in our community tonight

[14:36] for allowing our police department

[14:38] to take up a few extra seats to allow our team members to be

[14:41] here tonight to support their award recipients

[14:44] but also their family members and their children that

[14:46] are here tonight.

[14:47] I see is with us.

[14:49] Gary Block, your chief of police.

[14:51] And I would like to ask Officer Steven Tapia to join me up here

[14:56] Officer Poirier, Officer man Fergus

[15:08] So we're going to start with Officer Officer Steven Tapia

[15:10] right here.

[15:11] He's going to be recognized and those are for the court

[15:13] for the second quarter of 2026.

[15:16] And he began he began road patrol here on January 16, 2026,

[15:20] after successfully completing field training

[15:23] in just a few short months.

[15:24] You quickly distinguished yourself

[15:26] through your initiative, strong work ethic and commitment

[15:29] to serving the community during the second quarter,

[15:31] you accounted for 20% of the agency's traffic citations

[15:35] and warnings, issuing Eight 147 as part of our traffic education

[15:39] and enforcement efforts That looks to reduce traffic crashes.

[15:43] You also handle 9% of the agency's calls

[15:45] for service authored.

[15:46] 9% of all reports are responsible for 8% of arrests.

[15:50] An impressive level of activity for an officer.

[15:52] So early in your career, but your performance

[15:56] is more than just statistics.

[15:58] At 1249 on June 29th, you responded with

[16:01] fellow officers to a burglary in progress

[16:03] at an occupied residence.

[16:04] After a neighbor reported someone attempting

[16:07] to break into the apartment of an elderly woman

[16:10] who was home at the time.

[16:11] You and your fellow officers quickly located the arrested

[16:14] and arrested the offender.

[16:15] But your work did not stop there.

[16:17] Through a thorough follow up and investigation,

[16:20] you obtain an admission from the offender

[16:22] and uncovered additional evidence,

[16:24] including stolen property and burglary tools.

[16:27] Your work that morning demonstrated initiative,

[16:29] sound judgment and a commitment to seeing the investigation

[16:32] through There's also another incident here that's

[16:35] going to be mentioned here momentarily

[16:37] but all sorts happy in a short time.

[16:39] You have proven to be a proactive and dependable member

[16:41] of the department, whether enforcing traffic laws,

[16:43] investigating criminal activity responding to calls for service

[16:46] or helping someone during a life threatening emergency you have

[16:50] shown what it means to be committed

[16:51] to your profession, your fellow officers and most

[16:54] importantly, the community.

[16:56] We serve.

[16:57] I'm going to segway right into a life saving

[16:59] and commendation award, and we're going

[17:02] to invite Officer man Fergus.

[17:05] Officer Boyer, Tap here in this conversation along with Officer

[17:09] Steven Tapia on May 26th, 2026 Officers,

[17:13] these Three officers responded to an urgent call involving

[17:15] a two year old child who was unconscious and not breathing

[17:18] Upon their arrival, they were met by the child's mother who

[17:22] was holding her unresponsive son and urgently needed their help

[17:27] Officer Man Fergus tapia, you immediately assess the child

[17:30] and determine that his airway was obstructed by fluid

[17:32] and mucus while he was experience seeing a seizure

[17:35] and an extremely high fever.

[17:38] Knowing every second mattered.

[17:39] You acted without hesitation.

[17:41] Officer Tapia positioned the child while also

[17:43] remained food was administered.

[17:44] Black back blows clearing the obstruction

[17:47] and restoring his breathing.

[17:49] I'll tell you what, if you watch that body worn camera, man,

[17:51] it was some great, great police work

[17:54] And for that child to be here today it is awesome.

[17:57] Not in this room, but today it is awesome.

[17:59] Recognizing the need for advanced medical care.

[18:02] Officer Tapia, you then carried the child more than 500ft

[18:05] to the awaiting paramedics while lifesaving efforts continued

[18:08] For your swift response, sound judgment and commitment

[18:10] to preserving life officers angelo,

[18:12] Man, Fergus and Stephen tapia.

[18:14] Tonight you're being presented with our agency's life saving

[18:17] award.

[18:18] Officer Poirier, for your professionalism,

[18:20] teamwork, because it took all three of these gentlemen

[18:22] to make sure that child survived and portant contribution

[18:25] to the successful response You are being presented

[18:28] with a commendation, an award.

[18:30] Please join me.

[18:31] Why?

[18:32] We congratulate these three officers for their life.

[18:34] And for Mr. Mayor Merriman.

[18:51] I'm told little youngsters in the audience here.

[18:54] Oh, really?

[18:55] Mom, Dad Hey Jack.

[19:02] Behind you.

[19:03] Zero.

[19:04] Watch out.

[19:05] Behind you.

[19:05] They're coming on Yeah yeah.

[19:19] I'm going to try a little some here I know Dad's here,

[19:23] but I heard I heard only Mom was here, but glass.

[19:25] Yes.

[19:26] Four for Toyota.

[19:28] Two of Atlantia e to a more poor to evil Nuestro Departamento de

[19:33] policia de Felice Stop or say when a gun madre that means

[19:40] thank you for your help.

[19:41] Your courage and your love for your child.

[19:42] Our police department commends you for being

[19:44] a great mother and father.

[19:46] Well done sweet They want our guys stay up here together

[19:57] and stay down here You guys, thank

[20:04] you so much for all you do.

[20:05] Much appreciate it.

[20:06] So let me ask you this.

[20:07] Secret Service somebody on the other side kind

[20:10] of even it out right?

[20:12] Get closer.

[20:13] Don't be afraid.

[20:14] Make sure to hold your Yeah, be good You can come up.

[20:36] You can take them.

[20:36] Come up and take the picture if you want.

[20:38] Don't be shy.

[20:39] Just afraid It's Tuesday Thank you.

[20:48] Congratulations.

[20:49] On this gentleman.

[20:57] Thank you Congratulations.

[20:58] Good, great work.

[20:59] Really amazing Thank you.

[21:01] Just One Thank you so much.

[21:07] Thank you Thanks, Chief Thank you.

[21:13] All right Now we have the Broward County chief

[21:15] resilient officer, Dr. Herr.

[21:16] I know you here.

[21:18] There you go.

[21:19] You are.

[21:20] How are you I don't know who is at first

[21:23] was coming in for this, so I just like, let them go first.

[21:26] I wasn't skipping you on purpose.

[21:29] How are you doing tonight?

[21:30] Doing very well thank you.

[21:31] Mayor, Vice, Mayor, Commissioners Appreciate

[21:33] the opportunity Yes, please to have a few minutes

[21:37] on your agenda today.

[21:39] I am the chief resilience officer for Broward County

[21:43] and I'm here on behalf of the Broward County Commission

[21:45] to share a new grant program that the county

[21:48] commission is rolling out just just about now.

[21:52] And that is grant funding in support of infrastructure

[21:55] for improvements to aid flood risk reduction

[21:59] and earlier this year there was an announcement.

[22:03] And decision to move forward with a $20 million

[22:05] round location to support these investments

[22:09] through a grant program that will open on September 2.

[22:14] The focus is flood risk reduction

[22:16] And given the implication of rising seas and rainfall

[22:20] intensification and what we know that means to flood risk

[22:24] and damage losses and economic disruptions in our community,

[22:28] We spent several years working on the development of a county

[22:32] wide resilience plan focused on dozens and dozens of scenarios

[22:36] of flood risk Ultimately,

[22:38] there were a suite of adaptation projects

[22:41] that were recommended there captured in the banner there

[22:44] on the right The point being that these investments are

[22:48] indeed county wide but the county commissions

[22:52] and they and they fall into a variety of categories

[22:54] and these will occur over decades

[22:57] But there are projects that we know

[22:58] we can advance much more quickly, delivering

[23:01] flood risk reduction.

[23:03] With those benefits that will accrue each year.

[23:05] And those are investments that support in some of this

[23:08] won't be necessarily relevant to every type of infrastructure

[23:11] you have in the city.

[23:13] But control structures on canal floors,

[23:16] pumps, inland and coastal oil and culvert improvements.

[23:21] The risk reduction that we modeled for Wilton Manors

[23:24] is revealed here.

[23:25] The image captures anticipate and flood elevations

[23:29] with Two full feet of sea level rise,

[23:31] which is our 2050 condition.

[23:34] A 100 year rainfall event and 20 year storm surge scenario

[23:39] So the red areas show where we would expect to see

[23:41] more than two feet of water.

[23:43] The yellow areas, you know, six inches to a foot.

[23:45] And then the light green, less than Six inches.

[23:48] And the image on the left shows no adaptation.

[23:52] And the image on the right shows the adaptation

[23:55] projects that we modeled.

[23:57] And you can see the relative improvement

[24:02] The modeling incorporates the types of projects that

[24:05] enhanced orange water conveyance, green infrastructure

[24:09] improvements.

[24:10] You know, there images on the right kind

[24:12] of reveal what it looks like, but then

[24:14] you take it into model land.

[24:16] And that's how we're trying to trans slate

[24:18] the performance of projects to the risk reduction And in total,

[24:22] we also wanted to look at not only the risk reduction,

[24:25] but what it means for economic cost.

[24:27] And we know with rising flood insurance costs

[24:30] potential threats to property value use, when you have

[24:33] repetitive losses those implications for tax revenues

[24:38] when values drop, revenues do.

[24:40] And it makes it harder and harder

[24:41] to keep up with the infrastructure investment

[24:43] that we need, which is the point of invest now rather than defer

[24:47] on improvements that we know will need to be made

[24:50] in any eventuality But the plan comes with a very significant

[24:55] cost We were looking at about 28 billion in total

[24:59] through public and private investment over the next Four

[25:03] decades or so So we really worked over this last year

[25:07] to break it down into something more manageable

[25:11] And the commission started with the first billion

[25:14] and anticipated capital costs being those pumps culverts

[25:17] and control structures, things that can go in the ground.

[25:20] we also know that there's about another 2 billion

[25:24] anticipated in additional infrastructure in the way

[25:27] of pumps and seawalls are going to be an important area

[25:30] of investment for community such as yours and our coastal areas

[25:34] But to get started we had an initial grant program last year,

[25:40] started with culverts demonstrated a really strong

[25:43] leveraging of funds, and the Commission

[25:45] is seeking to achieve that same formula with the allocation now.

[25:50] So we're prepared through the program

[25:52] to provide a 25% cost share on the projects

[25:56] overall are obligated to staff is to leverage

[25:59] those dollars 5 to 1.

[26:00] Some projects will have a higher and lesser return,

[26:03] but the goal is year after year for 15 years.

[26:06] If we can leverage the dollars, well, we can put $1.5 billion

[26:10] of infrastructure in the ground while we're

[26:12] working on the larger solutions that help with the more

[26:15] complete plan, I will share the county's

[26:17] capital budget workshop today.

[26:20] That funding was represented in the five year capital program

[26:23] So it is the direction that the Commission

[26:26] is interested in taking the grant criteria detailed here.

[26:31] I won't need to go over that.

[26:32] They are posted on the website at Resilient Brower We're here

[26:36] to encourage you the city's application to ensure that you

[26:40] all know about the grant funding opportunity

[26:43] We realize this is year one next year may be a little bit

[26:46] more planning in advance because we can anticipate

[26:49] that potentially the partnerships

[26:51] and the funding resilient Florida grant funding

[26:54] can also be leveraged.

[26:56] But our goal is, is bringing as much dollars

[26:58] back to Broward County and our communities

[26:59] for the flood protections we know

[27:01] we need The grants will allow for a project

[27:04] over a period of three years.

[27:06] What's shown here in this image is the areas where we anticipate

[27:10] the city of Wilton manors would ultimately

[27:12] need additional pumping and drainage

[27:15] on the back side of sea walls that would be constructed.

[27:18] So we didn't predetermine where those project locations might

[27:22] be, but recognize that we expect in your community,

[27:26] you'll be looking at that whether it's this year or later

[27:29] years So i'm acknowledging that's an area

[27:34] like active opportunity for the city

[27:36] and the dollars can be used to support design,

[27:39] construct design, and permitting.

[27:41] But the deliver proposal must be construction

[27:44] The details on the timeline for the grant program

[27:47] are shown here.

[27:48] Again, we'll formally open the portal on September Second,

[27:52] will receive applications through the end of October.

[27:55] Look to rank and evaluate for our board

[27:57] by the end of December.

[27:58] And then hopefully have those grants issued in in the spring.

[28:02] So thank you for your time and attention

[28:04] and look forward to receiving.

[28:05] Applications are working together through you.

[28:07] Any questions you, your team might have any questions.

[28:11] So thank you for.

[28:13] Thank you very much appreciate it There's a huge problem for us

[28:17] down here, I promise you Thank you All right

[28:23] We're going to start comments from the public You're going

[28:25] to get three minutes, please state your name

[28:28] and address for us, please.

[28:30] And when the buzzer goes off, we have plenty of people here

[28:32] tonight, if you'd please stop your comments

[28:34] when you hear the buzzer I really appreciate it.

[28:38] Anyone here would like to come up

[28:39] and speak you can be second I'll be very, very quick I promise.

[28:52] Hi.

[28:52] Melody Manning to 428 northeast Sixth Avenue.

[28:56] I'm actually not here to talk about any of the big projects

[28:58] and I did want to acknowledge the fact that we all

[29:01] know Dolly Parton died today.

[29:03] And she was my idol.

[29:04] So I came up here just to read a quote from Dolly because I think

[29:08] it pertains to all of us in this room that are working

[29:11] towards a better community.

[29:14] And I promise i won't be the quote.

[29:16] My favorite Dolly Parton quote, which is that

[29:18] takes a lot of money to look this cheap and I quote this.

[29:23] And she said, and I quote, If you can't change

[29:26] the whole wide world, change your own little world,

[29:29] we can look around us.

[29:30] So what for our community, help the people

[29:33] and make the world a little bit better That kind of change

[29:36] doesn't make headlines but it matters.

[29:39] And i wanted to come up here and say that everybody that

[29:41] is in this room right now is trying to help their community,

[29:43] even though we don't agree on a lot.

[29:45] And we fight quite a bit.

[29:48] We fight because we believe what we are doing for our community

[29:53] matters That's all Thank you And we still respect each other

[30:02] after our comments because we all try

[30:05] to live here together Go ahead.

[30:08] Hi my name is Gary Defi reside at 2015

[30:12] Northeast Seventh Avenue.

[30:14] I am here to voice my thoughts regarding the shops

[30:18] of Wilton manors development.

[30:19] And it's impact on.

[30:21] Cut through traffic and Northeast

[30:23] Seventh Avenue 20th Street 21st Street and 22nd drive.

[30:29] I appreciate the measures already implemented

[30:32] by the city and the developer for traffic egress

[30:36] and to seven three avenue include left

[30:39] turn only a no turn right lighted signs directing traffic

[30:45] towards Wilton Drive the raised diverter curb pavement signage

[30:50] and the traffic calming table we currently experience

[30:55] an excessive amount of cut through traffic even

[30:59] with the existing building at zero capacity.

[31:03] As stated in the city of Wilton Manors,

[31:05] traffic calming manual drivers cutting

[31:08] through residential neighborhood create a significant danger

[31:13] to children Walkers, joggers, bicyclists, pets and wildlife.

[31:19] This situation atIon encourages motorists motorists

[31:23] to use shortcuts through our neighborhood

[31:26] even during non-peak hours causing

[31:29] justify both concern among residents regarding

[31:33] safety and livability.

[31:35] For a context, I have a newborn baby living across the street

[31:40] from my house.

[31:41] I have a neighbor next door that's

[31:43] blind The city of Wilton Manors traffic calming manual

[31:50] indicates that Wilton Drive is the intended route for traffic

[31:55] from this development rather than Northeast Seventh Avenue,

[31:59] which is a residential street.

[32:02] Again, I appreciate the measures already taken from the city

[32:07] and the developers and the additional traffic calming

[32:11] measures that can be improved to protect our residential streets

[32:17] would be greatly appreciated by our residents.

[32:21] Thank you for your time and attention

[32:23] Thank you Anyone else like to come up

[32:29] and speak Come on up on one second.

[32:37] No.

[32:37] Come on.

[32:38] No yield bear.

[32:41] No, you guys see how polite.

[32:43] We are Cause Sure.

[32:47] 325.

[32:48] Northeast 25th Street.

[32:50] Good evening Mayor.

[32:51] Commissioners, city staff and residents and guest myself.

[32:54] Objective tonight and over the next several commissioner

[32:57] meetings is to provide document details Why commissioner are

[33:00] we should not be elected mayor what manners

[33:04] And that's why I'm here as you do not deserve to be mayor, more

[33:08] or less a commissioner the last four years,

[33:11] as you should have been reprimanded and/or removed

[33:14] as you knowingly violate the city charter to falsely pursue

[33:18] me truly my civil rights were violated

[33:21] and I remain civil until now I regret having to relive

[33:25] the hell you put us through, but I'm driven to expose

[33:28] your abuse of power and vindictiveness

[33:31] that we were subjected to by you Parolee.

[33:34] You are not worthy to be mayor.

[33:36] A will manners I hope a lot of you here are dolphin Democrats.

[33:41] And so you're here tonight.

[33:42] You'll be here on September the eighth in that.

[33:44] And also on September the 22nd.

[33:46] I'll be here again So on August 23, 2022,

[33:51] for four years ago on a Sunday night at 8:17 p.m.,

[33:56] I was served a false restraining order for stalking And upon

[34:00] review of the restraining order, I easily identified as actions

[34:05] tied directly to the efforts of Vice mayor Rowley,

[34:09] where Where is you?

[34:11] Yes Yeah.

[34:11] As an emergency.

[34:13] This is not an accusation but an admitted fact, by Vice mayor.

[34:19] Really himself.

[34:20] At a meeting he requested in writing on November 17 2022,

[34:24] at City Hall So who in the heck is Carl?

[34:27] Sure.

[34:28] Why would he do this My background My partner

[34:33] and I came here on vacation in 2015.

[34:36] We fell in love with William Manners.

[34:37] Purchased a home, and we relocated

[34:39] from Houston May of 2016.

[34:41] We are both 2018 ICU graduates.

[34:44] And I successfully pursued a board position on the Berkeley

[34:47] Recreation Advisory board July of 2018

[34:50] as an active park and Recreation Advisory Board member mayor Flip

[34:54] and reached out and asked if I could cobble together

[34:57] city naming procedures and that was

[34:59] successfully accomplished Adopted

[35:01] by the city prior to his death.

[35:04] Our naming procedure was signed by Mayor Flippen.

[35:07] We're used for the first time for Mayor Flippen

[35:11] I served two terms on the Parks and Recreation Board

[35:14] in my last years.

[35:15] Chair until My term expiring June 30th, 2022.

[35:19] For the last Seven years, I have been

[35:22] the sole volunteer recruiter for a taste of the Alan.

[35:27] The last you're Being our 20th anniversary.

[35:29] I recruited a record 55 participants for me each year.

[35:35] It represents hundreds of dedicated hours and dollars out

[35:38] of my pocket to ensure success As currently I'm

[35:42] vice chair of the Sunshine Cathedral foundation

[35:45] and Facilities chair for the Sunshine Cathedral Campus

[35:48] and our Sunshine Pride House So this is me giving back

[35:53] at the next commission meeting Copies of my restraining order

[35:56] will be made available this summer,

[35:58] we need about Hundreds or so copies.

[36:00] See you in September.

[36:01] Thank you Please come Surprise my people about I

[36:18] had something all written out, but I'm

[36:19] just going to skip it What happened to Carl was a travesty.

[36:24] I've looked into it because I can't keep my nose out

[36:27] of certain things and I can tell you

[36:33] there are people who deserve to be

[36:34] on that dais There are people who don't

[36:37] deserve to be on the dais.

[36:38] And there are people who should be

[36:40] on the dais I am not one of them My mouth is

[36:46] too big for the dais.

[36:48] I will say this.

[36:50] Everyone up there does the best that they

[36:52] can do I don't believe that anyone has a secret agenda.

[36:56] I don't believe that anyone stealing money

[36:58] I know this community like my heart

[37:01] because when you look around and you see the things that we see

[37:04] today, a meeting that began with a thank

[37:08] you to Dolly Parton, how many cities do you think

[37:10] are doing that tonight?

[37:12] A meeting where we congratulate our police department

[37:15] because they do such a fine job A meeting where we thank

[37:21] them for saving a child's life.

[37:23] And the probably took a little bit more

[37:25] time than what your study said it should have in the police

[37:30] department that supports us.

[37:32] We are a small hometown but I can tell you

[37:36] in a small hometown, when you have somebody who's

[37:38] a bully like Paul Raleigh there are problems there are people

[37:46] like Carl, who volunteered their time did the best that he

[37:50] could and was a good person.

[37:55] And he almost moved from the city.

[37:58] When you have people in power almost like Washington when you

[38:05] have people in power who retaliate against you

[38:08] because they don't like what they say or what you say

[38:12] and that's happened to me a few times probably for good reason

[38:21] I have to say that I don't believe that.

[38:24] Paul really deserves to be our next mayor,

[38:27] nor do I believe that he belongs on the dais.

[38:30] But what I will say there are plenty of people who

[38:34] are willing to take that position I normally say,

[38:38] oh, welcome to the new people who want to get up there

[38:42] I love seeing people want to get on that dais.

[38:46] And nine out of ten times, I would say Scott Newton

[38:49] it's time for you to step back.

[38:51] But not this time We need every bit of institutional knowledge

[38:58] that we have.

[39:00] His phone book that he can pick up a phone and call somebody.

[39:05] And these next coming years, Tallahassee hates us.

[39:10] Plenty of people in broward County dislike us

[39:14] but we are a special place and we will come together

[39:18] and we will use every bit of power every bit of knowledge

[39:23] and every bit of our heart to make this city

[39:25] move forward Thank you.

[39:27] Thank you Anyone else like to come up and speak ?

[39:36] Say no one.

[39:38] Sorry Late in there.

[39:43] You almost got cut off Good evening, everyone.

[39:48] Matthew Gill, 120, Northeast 29th Street.

[39:52] I'm speaking in favor of the project for the shops

[39:55] at Wilton Manors, and I'll be brief.

[39:57] I just want to go over the logic behind the redevelopment efforts

[40:01] that we've been doing for a few years.

[40:03] We need to add additional taxable value to the same land

[40:06] that we have.

[40:07] We're built out When I looked at the other cities

[40:11] in the county that are have arts and entertainment

[40:14] districts next to single family homes, I found four.

[40:19] The only city that had the smaller setback

[40:23] was Hollywood At 25 to 40ft.

[40:26] Just putting it out there.

[40:27] And that's just what I found out when I'm looking at the building

[40:31] that the aging building and the southern

[40:34] portion of the property, it's approximately for 48,616ft².

[40:41] That will be demolished and replaced

[40:43] with 89 new residential units.

[40:46] So there's a different purpose there.

[40:48] There will be an addition of with a new project,

[40:51] assuming it passes 18,620ft² of new commercial

[40:56] space on this street.

[40:58] So it's going to be a better use of the particular land

[41:04] When I looked at approximate numbers

[41:07] each particular, each household will add an approximately $2

[41:11] million per household into our local economy

[41:16] When you're looking at the positive impacts you

[41:17] have hired valued tenants in the new spaces.

[41:20] This increase for traffic from the new residents

[41:25] more stable residents due to diversity and the tenant mix.

[41:29] Outdoor patio activation reduced vacancies because of the aging

[41:35] structure will be redeveloped.

[41:39] So in the end, we're going to have higher taxable property

[41:42] value for this city.

[41:44] Also, you know, you're looking at increased commercial revenue.

[41:49] Reoccurring resin spending, more stable entertainment

[41:53] and you're going to have reduced traffic because you're going

[41:55] to have people that live in those units that are going to be

[41:57] utilizing the properties I think this is an interesting project.

[42:01] And I think it's ideal.

[42:02] However, given what the climate is.

[42:05] And if we if this doesn't work, we'll move on It's

[42:10] going to take a long time.

[42:11] Many years to get to this point.

[42:13] Again It's just the nature of the beast.

[42:16] All these projects, I would say an average Five

[42:18] years for project to get something from the time

[42:20] that someone says, I'm interested until it gets done.

[42:23] So you're looking at the property

[42:26] that we have will not be utilized to the fullest extent.

[42:29] The income will not be there.

[42:31] Thank you very much.

[42:32] Thank you Oh, they're out here to a friend here.

[42:41] Anyone else like.

[42:42] Oh come on up.

[42:45] Hey.

[42:47] Hi there.

[42:49] I'm standing in favor of the shops at Wilton.

[42:52] My name is Patty Baddeley.

[42:53] We're property owners right across the street

[42:55] on Seventh Avenue.

[42:56] And 23rd Drive, Wilton manors is a very special place.

[43:01] We've been owners for many years,

[43:03] and i get to speak to tenants all the time that want to move

[43:06] here nationwide to be part of this community

[43:08] and you guys have done a great job as council in this community

[43:14] to truly apply the slogan Life is just simply better

[43:18] here So what I think the blessing, though, is, is we

[43:22] have two local developers that are stakeholders in Broward

[43:26] county and not coming in from out of state

[43:29] or out of the country or from South Florida somewhere

[43:32] south of Hollywood So we have people

[43:36] that have been successful.

[43:37] Tim hernandez Area News Group.

[43:39] With other projects here in Wilton Manors.

[43:41] He's a friend to the city, as well as his background

[43:44] in city planning.

[43:45] So this is a beautification It's a tax generating revenue

[43:49] but it's bringing in other stakeholders

[43:51] and other special people.

[43:53] Part of the community.

[43:54] I don't see how this isn't a win.

[43:56] When you look at styles, they're on their third generation

[43:59] of building broward in the skyline here

[44:01] And I think we should feel grateful for who we've gotten

[44:05] in front of us, especially compared

[44:06] to where the projects were approved

[44:08] before This is more beautiful.

[44:10] It's ownership and it's done with well thought out plans

[44:14] And I would just recommend that we lead with our hearts

[44:18] like Dolly Parton might say.

[44:19] Think with our heads and reach across the table

[44:22] and continue to make this place where life is just better Come

[44:30] on up This may not be the time to speak,

[44:33] but I feel I need to Good evening.

[44:35] My name is.

[44:36] Do you care ?

[44:36] I live at 2048 Northeast sixth Terrace.

[44:39] I'm one of the affected neighbors for this project.

[44:42] I want to be very clear tonight.

[44:43] This is not about being against development It's not

[44:47] about stopping progress It's about

[44:49] whether the rules of this city commission

[44:51] adopted actually mean something when residents rely on it.

[44:56] My husband and I lived in our home for 16 years now.

[45:00] We bought it believe in the city's land use regulations

[45:02] would protect the character of our neighborhood

[45:05] and the investment we made in our home

[45:08] The city commission estab lished a 65 foot setback rezoned

[45:13] and relied on that protection.

[45:15] We're being asked to accept a project

[45:17] that puts a five and six story building

[45:19] 35ft from our property line.

[45:22] That's a dramatic difference and that should not become

[45:25] the standard in our great city.

[45:28] I have to ask if the city can establish a 65 foot protection

[45:32] and allow a developer to come in and reduce

[45:35] the protection to 35ft.

[45:37] What exactly are those regulations

[45:39] worth to the residents who live here ?

[45:42] There needs to be clarity on your website

[45:44] about this in your t o c district.

[45:48] Explain to residents they have no protection

[45:51] And when it comes to developers we keep hearing

[45:54] about landscaping trees way they're going to soften

[45:58] the impact Landscaping does not change the fact that a five

[46:02] story building is being moved significantly

[46:05] closer to the people's homes than ever before This is where I

[46:09] have a serious concern about the message being sent

[46:11] to every homeowner in Wilton Manors

[46:13] because we're told to follow the code,

[46:16] we're told to build according to the code

[46:18] and we make decisions about our homes,

[46:20] build that based on the code.

[46:22] But when a major developer comes forward with a project that

[46:25] does not fit those protections, suddenly we're

[46:27] discussing exceptions, deviations and ways

[46:30] to make the project work.

[46:32] That doesn't feel like equal treatment.

[46:34] I asked the commission to remember

[46:38] you're one of the ones that adopted this code

[46:40] and we believed in you We've always trusted your decisions.

[46:45] You represent the residents who live and vote here today

[46:49] and the residents who will live and vote here tomorrow.

[46:53] If the city believes the 65 foot setback is no longer

[46:56] a appropriate, then change the code openly

[46:59] through the proper process.

[47:01] So every property owner understands the rules

[47:05] and can be a part of the process.

[47:06] But don't tell residents they're protected by one standard.

[47:10] And then make an exception when a particular project

[47:13] comes along.

[47:14] I'm asking you tonight to follow the rules you put in place

[47:19] Protect the residents who relied on them

[47:21] and reject the 35 foot setback.

[47:25] Develop It can happen.

[47:26] Progress can happen, but it shouldn't

[47:29] happen with the sacrifice the trust

[47:32] of the people who elected you.

[47:33] And already call Wilton Manors home.

[47:36] Thank you very much Thank you.

[47:43] Anyone else like to come up and speak

[47:50] So people may not know they have an operating business?

[47:56] Yes.

[47:56] My name is Denis Maroney I live at 2040 Northeast six Terrace.

[48:01] I live right next door to Steve and Ray.

[48:03] I was a very good speech you gave Steve.

[48:05] Thank you And if I may add to what he said,

[48:09] what I look out of the front of my house,

[48:10] I'm going to see a 53 foot high building.

[48:14] That would be a parking garage for four stories of condo

[48:19] and then a planter on top for a patio.

[48:22] That would be 53ft high and only 35ft back from the property.

[48:28] I know there's supposed to be some kind

[48:30] of transition involved.

[48:31] But that seems really excessive to me and has to be reconsidered

[48:35] And we're not asking for a lot.

[48:37] We're not asking to stop the project.

[48:39] We're just asking that it not become a canyon

[48:42] next to our homes You know, the developer says he's done

[48:48] everything he can, that there's finances involved that he's got

[48:51] to consider that he's taking the Fifth story away

[48:54] and moved it somewhere else. it looks like if he

[48:58] could just take away four.

[48:59] Nope.

[49:00] I'm sorry.

[49:01] 3 small condos and make it just three stories high

[49:05] that it would be more acceptable There the architect

[49:10] kind of developed the building as three towers.

[49:12] It's one building but three towers and there is a tower that

[49:17] is along Seventh Avenue, right across

[49:21] from the Italian american Club It's a 100ft

[49:26] closer to the drive.

[49:28] It's five stories.

[49:30] It's right adjacent to another tower that is six stories high.

[49:35] You could add a six story to that tower.

[49:38] It could be serviced by the same elevators.

[49:41] And the sunset.

[49:43] Loescher It would be closer to the drive out

[49:47] of the residential neighborhood Could and would not

[49:51] only give them the three condos that they're taking away,

[49:55] but would give them really twice the square footage because it's

[49:58] a much bigger tower and they wouldn't

[50:01] be losing square footage.

[50:02] They'd be gaining square footage And I

[50:05] don't know if they've considered that already

[50:07] or not They probably have.

[50:09] And I really be interested in knowing

[50:11] why it was rejected because it seems

[50:13] like a very good idea to me.

[50:15] I think this building could be built but in a better way.

[50:20] I think right now it's not the time to pass it.

[50:22] I think maybe it needs to be studied

[50:24] and worked a little bit more and i hope we get the best

[50:31] thing for the community.

[50:32] Thank you Anyone else like to come up and speak ?

[50:51] Michael allison.

[50:52] 2624 Northwest six hour.

[50:55] I think it's encouraging that there is an experienced Broward

[50:58] County based developer interested in developing

[51:00] a substantial project And will manners variance negotiation

[51:04] doesn't always seem fair but it's the reality of how the game

[51:08] is played in cities that are experiencing development which

[51:13] will manners has not been part of at least not in the last five

[51:16] years that I've been here.

[51:18] And from what I understand for years prior to that I've

[51:20] been here five years.

[51:21] I moved here.

[51:23] The only thing I've seen built is a handful

[51:24] of redeveloped single family home sites

[51:27] in the recently in our townhomes.

[51:29] If it wasn't for a huge fire, I'm not sure

[51:31] that the Lennar Townhomes will be a reality today

[51:35] At the same time surrounding cities big and small

[51:38] have experienced a substantial amount of development

[51:41] in the past ten years.

[51:43] Palm Beach County Broward County areas I'm familiar with.

[51:47] I see projects everywhere.

[51:48] Small towns and big towns.

[51:49] Even the small town of Lake Worth which for years had

[51:52] practically no development, as well as similar world manners

[51:57] And those cities are going to be in a better position

[51:59] to deal with the potential budget

[52:00] challenges If Amendment three passes,

[52:04] I hope that the current and future city commissioners

[52:07] take a hard look as to why there's

[52:09] been so little development activity in world manners

[52:12] and how to get on the bandwagon to get project belt out

[52:16] of the ground and expand our tax base A stagnant tax base

[52:20] will not allow the city to maintain and replace the aging

[52:23] infrastructure that we have presently while delivering

[52:26] a level of service that our residents

[52:29] have become accustomed to.

[52:30] Thank you You Is there anyone else like

[52:37] to come up and speak with that?

[52:41] I'll close the public hearing and we'll

[52:45] move on to consent agenda.

[52:46] Anybody have a motion or anything be pulled?

[52:48] I'm sorry.

[52:50] Hearing none.

[52:52] What do we do The appointments.

[52:54] That's after.

[52:55] Anyway.

[52:56] Have a motion.

[52:57] I'll make a motion for a second.

[52:59] I will second it on the question is, Vice Mayor Caputo

[53:05] Yes, Commissioner Dominello.

[53:07] Yes.

[53:07] Commissioner Brockie Yes, Commissioner.

[53:09] Really Can I present a Mayor Newton Yes.

[53:13] Director.

[53:14] All right.

[53:14] We moved up the cap the cab from at the back of the meeting.

[53:21] Community Affairs Advisory Board If I can,

[53:23] Mayor I'd like to make a suggestion if, if the Commission

[53:26] is open to it There are five of open positions that are,

[53:30] you know three normal.

[53:32] And then two that are alternate correct If there's a willingness

[53:37] by the commission you know, I'd like to suggest that we all

[53:41] those that are here tonight you know,

[53:43] that they move in a full time positions and those that have

[53:45] been out of town, you know that we put them

[53:46] in alternate positions since all are ultimately going to get

[53:48] a position If there's not, I'm happy we're

[53:52] happy to do that the regular voting process.

[53:54] But yeah look at that.

[53:56] Well, just to clarify, I don't believe that there are alternate

[53:59] So I think that these are people that are unfilled or.

[54:02] Sorry.

[54:02] Yeah And your term or partial terms.

[54:05] You're correct.

[54:06] OK.

[54:06] Yeah.

[54:07] Just to clear.

[54:08] So the longer term will be the ones that are here

[54:10] and the shorter terms will be the ones that

[54:11] are right That's my suggestion.

[54:13] If there's other one they with that,

[54:15] I just so there are two shorter term percent

[54:17] of the time those revisions to figure out because the longer we

[54:20] have the same other the same okay

[54:23] i mean Bob's when I make a motion for that so would you

[54:28] like me for the record since it won't be on the recording, who's

[54:34] present or not You?

[54:35] Yeah, please Actually, is everyone present that

[54:38] says they're going to be here this week Cabell Victor Hess

[54:43] and Mia rodriguez or anybody else that is Victor

[54:48] Victor Victor has there goes your idea,

[54:52] I guess I here all right.

[54:57] Well, we're trying to make it quickly.

[55:00] So who is here?

[55:02] So we have Carville and Carville.

[55:04] You want to come up ?

[55:14] Oh, hey, hey, everyone My name is Carville.

[55:16] Esther Black and I'm a resident of 2008 North East

[55:19] Third Avenue, apartment one.

[55:22] And i guess this is actually, I been on cab before

[55:27] and just want to say this is be my third term.

[55:30] And hopefully I can keep some kind I've been on there before.

[55:35] So some of the competition which I have written,

[55:38] the women's History Award I'm previously

[55:42] on Cab along with African History american Award.

[55:47] That was also along with one year we ended

[55:51] with their Caribbean festival that just happened right

[55:54] here at richardson Park And I just

[55:57] want to say that i really enjoy being cab and serving

[56:01] my community and I really love this community I just

[56:04] want to say that just coming in February 13,

[56:08] I am going to be getting married here ever.

[56:11] She's in Park and just want to put that out there.

[56:15] So i know it's not really a cab, but just want

[56:19] to say is a sense of about me being involved

[56:22] in this community and this one.

[56:24] I share that.

[56:25] So thank you Any questions?

[56:27] But thanks for your service on the board

[56:29] all these years Thank you.

[56:30] Thank you All right.

[56:33] At a time Yeah.

[56:34] Mr. Hess.

[56:36] Right here.

[56:36] Mrs. Rodriguez Come on up.

[56:40] I see you have a helper with you today.

[56:44] Assistant I'm sorry And hi, everyone.

[56:50] My name is Maya Rodriguez, and this is.

[56:52] I'm a I have been a resident of Waterman ten for since 2021.

[56:57] In service to the cab has been a big experience for me

[57:01] because I see what everybody's here like.

[57:04] You.

[57:05] Everyone over there on a board it's over here

[57:07] just to try to see what's best for will miners

[57:10] and that's why I'm here, because I moved here 2021,

[57:14] and I love this place and brought my son with me

[57:18] And I'm ready to serve another term.

[57:20] Good.

[57:20] Thanks for having me Any questions?

[57:22] You may think it's for you.

[57:25] Thank you.

[57:25] You.

[57:26] Appreciate it.

[57:27] Good This is the way we normally vote.

[57:34] Everyone's going to get the same amount of votes

[57:36] that those we don't score one on.

[57:38] That's right.

[57:38] I forgot.

[57:39] So I forgot that one.

[57:39] I need to think about.

[57:40] We should just vote for the top three

[57:44] and then the other two would be the shorter

[57:47] terms We can do it if you want.

[57:50] Right.

[57:51] And you'll be problems that That's fine with me.

[57:53] I'm with me.

[57:53] All right, let's do that I See.

[58:18] Attorney Do you have anything Member We're waiting Waiting

[58:23] for the calculation, right?

[58:26] I do OK I can keep the meeting moving.

[58:33] Understood.

[58:33] Thank you I like to request the shade session in case number.

[58:39] CAC 25 hyphen zero zero 9 to 8 six in the circuit

[58:46] court of the 17th.

[58:47] You just circuit and in for Broward County city or Wilton

[58:51] Manors versus Blue Sky Investment Group LLC

[58:57] We're requesting that we have a state's session

[59:02] as we desire to get some advice concerning the litigation

[59:08] and settlement and related to the litigation expenditures

[59:12] and city manager We have any early meeting before

[59:15] our next commission meeting.

[59:17] Is that okay?

[59:18] You be back for that or he will Is that okay with him?

[59:22] You know the first meeting in September,

[59:25] I believe that'll be okay.

[59:26] Yeah.

[59:27] We'll we'll have to advertise and we'll make

[59:29] sure that that's appropriate.

[59:30] And if not, we'll we have the direction to advertise

[59:33] is what we're seeking now.

[59:34] So.

[59:35] All right.

[59:35] And how much time do you think this will take?

[59:38] Half hour.

[59:38] An hour for advertising purposes let's say an hour.

[59:45] And if we need less, well, we'll advertise

[59:48] less just so that it's.

[59:50] That's fine for 6:00 in the first meetings of two.

[59:55] So good.

[59:56] Anything else?

[59:57] Are you got a question?

[59:59] No.

[59:59] OK I'm sorry you had your up.

[1:00:02] Anything else?

[1:00:03] No, sir Okay.

[1:00:04] Thank you.

[1:00:04] You're ready later?

[1:00:05] Yes.

[1:00:06] So we are required to read the votes into the the record.

[1:00:11] Commissioner Brockie for the full term

[1:00:13] selected carville as Triplett Tim mattingly and Mia Rodriguez,

[1:00:18] Commissioner Da Mineo selected carville

[1:00:20] as Triplett Victor hess.

[1:00:22] Mia Rodriguez Vice Mayor Caputo selected Carville

[1:00:25] as Triplett Victor Hess Mia Rodriguez and Mayor Newton

[1:00:28] selected carville as Triplett Stephen gauche and Mia Rodriguez

[1:00:33] So your full term members on Cab will be Carville as Triplett

[1:00:38] Victor Hess and Mia Rodriguez the Onyx buyer terms will be

[1:00:44] Stephen gold and Tim Mattingly.

[1:00:46] All right.

[1:00:47] So I'm going to make the motion I'll make the motion that we

[1:00:51] limit Carvel Aster five Victor House and Mayor

[1:00:54] Rodriguez for the full term and Stephen

[1:00:57] Gauche and Timothy mattingly for the unexpired terms.

[1:01:01] Is there a second?

[1:01:03] I will second it.

[1:01:04] Thank you.

[1:01:04] Call the question, Vice Mayor Caputo.

[1:01:06] Yes, Commissioner dominello Yes.

[1:01:08] Commissioner Brockie Yes.

[1:01:10] Mayor Newton.

[1:01:11] Yes All right.

[1:01:12] Ordinance 2020 6-016.

[1:01:15] We are moving to the first meeting

[1:01:16] in September order ordinance.

[1:01:20] First reading.

[1:01:22] We're in the 2020 6-017.

[1:01:25] Please read an ordinance of the city Commission of the City

[1:01:29] of Wilton Manors Florida Amending the Unified

[1:01:31] Land development Regulations.

[1:01:32] You are by amending section 010-030 terms defined providing

[1:01:39] for codification, providing for severability,

[1:01:41] providing for conflicts and providing

[1:01:42] for an effective date Thank you Community service director.

[1:01:50] I guess you are up You're welcome

[1:02:09] Roberta Moore, director of Human Services mayor Commission.

[1:02:12] This ordinance is tied to the previous ordinance that

[1:02:15] was tabled to the next meeting There is some modification

[1:02:21] to the changes of defined mission,

[1:02:23] so there's definitions that are in Article 30

[1:02:25] that we are proposing to delete Add

[1:02:27] in chapter ten or Article ten.

[1:02:30] And so i'm happy to go through the presentation

[1:02:33] if you would like, or if you would like

[1:02:35] to continue it to the same meeting

[1:02:39] as what we would hear article 34.

[1:02:42] What's the pleasure of the Commission?

[1:02:44] They're correlated right?

[1:02:45] So do we need to hear them together

[1:02:48] again We can proceed forward.

[1:02:50] We're looking eventually to delete them out of Article 13

[1:02:54] them into ten.

[1:02:56] So again, we can proceed.

[1:02:58] But I just want to be transparent with the intention

[1:03:01] of what this board.

[1:03:02] But this.

[1:03:02] This is only definitions, correct?

[1:03:04] Correct.

[1:03:05] OK I mean, I'm finding the way Well, whatever you want.

[1:03:10] I mean, I don't care either.

[1:03:11] OK?

[1:03:12] I don't have any issues right You mean,

[1:03:15] you think it should be long, lengthy,

[1:03:17] or we can proceed forward again for transparency?

[1:03:19] I just wanted to let you.

[1:03:20] I know.

[1:03:21] I just need some other ones and an article

[1:03:23] 30 that are going to be deleted.

[1:03:24] Which are these Right.

[1:03:26] So.

[1:03:27] So for this ordinance what we are looking to do

[1:03:31] is so we need it read Yes I read it.

[1:03:38] So yeah here at the title.

[1:03:40] Sorry, I apologize I'm sorry, Mayor.

[1:03:45] So what we are looking to do is add definitions

[1:03:47] into article ten of our unified land development regulations.

[1:03:53] The new definitions, specifically our banquet hall

[1:03:55] contractor flex space, health and fitness center incubator

[1:03:58] space pop up shop and watercraft or water vehicle Those are

[1:04:02] uses that we are looking again to add in article 30

[1:04:05] and we are looking to update awnings private clubs, floor

[1:04:10] area ratio and restaurants This did go before the planning,

[1:04:13] zoning board.

[1:04:13] They did recommend approval to the city commission.

[1:04:16] Again, this is first reading.

[1:04:17] If you have any questions.

[1:04:19] All of this was based upon direction of the city

[1:04:21] commission Any questions?

[1:04:24] No, I'm good with it.

[1:04:25] I'm good with it All right.

[1:04:30] Is there a motion I think I made a motion to make a motion.

[1:04:34] But your second, I will.

[1:04:36] Second part of me.

[1:04:37] I didn't hear the.

[1:04:38] I made the motion.

[1:04:39] So you.

[1:04:41] Any discussion call the question.

[1:04:44] Vice Mayor Caputo Yes.

[1:04:46] Commissioner Dami Neo Yes.

[1:04:47] Commissioner Brockie Yes.

[1:04:48] Commissioner Rowley yes.

[1:04:50] Mayor Newton Yes.

[1:04:52] Ordinance 2020 6-018.

[1:04:55] Please read an ordinance of the City Commission of the City

[1:04:59] of Wilton Manors, Florida Repealing

[1:05:01] Resolutions Numbers 2020 4-010 2020 4-013 and 2020 4-014.

[1:05:09] Amending section 020-020 entitled

[1:05:13] District map by rezoning the property known

[1:05:16] as 2200 2292 Wilton Drive.

[1:05:20] Wilton Manors Florida as more particularly

[1:05:23] described in Exhibit A attached here to rezoning the property

[1:05:27] from Wilton Drive Arts and Entertainment

[1:05:29] district to planned unit development m

[1:05:32] m contingent upon allocating 89 flexibility units

[1:05:37] and/or redevelopment units by resolution of the City

[1:05:40] Commission of the City of wilton Manors granting final site

[1:05:43] plan approval providing for a complex

[1:05:45] providing for severability and providing for an effective date.

[1:05:48] Thank you.

[1:05:49] You.

[1:05:49] Is there a motion I'll make a motion to approve your second.

[1:05:54] I'll second the motion.

[1:05:56] Thank you Director Moore, do you want to go first

[1:06:00] or would you like to applicant to go first?

[1:06:03] As roberta Moore Director of Human Development Services Mayor

[1:06:10] I'm happy to do the presentation.

[1:06:11] First, unless you would like to hear from the applicant,

[1:06:14] I will ask the applicant Would you want to go first

[1:06:16] or would you like to get a second camera

[1:06:18] to go first or second?

[1:06:19] You're pointing you want to go second, right Go

[1:06:24] ahead Thank you again, Roberta.

[1:06:26] More director of Community Services.

[1:06:27] This is a rezoning application for the property known

[1:06:30] as Shoppes at Wilton Manors This is a rezoning from wilton

[1:06:36] Drive Arts and Entertainment to planned unit development mixed.

[1:06:39] So are planned unit developments We

[1:06:41] have a number of different types because this

[1:06:43] is to use as commercial and residential

[1:06:45] So they are requesting a pod.

[1:06:47] M This did go before the planning and zoning board

[1:06:50] on June 16th where they did recommend

[1:06:52] approval subject to the conditions

[1:06:55] identified in the staff report.

[1:06:57] There is a subsequent application,

[1:07:00] which is the site plan that is also tied to the rezoning

[1:07:03] because this is a PUD.

[1:07:05] They are tied together.

[1:07:06] The site plan does become an exhibit

[1:07:08] to the rezoning ordinance.

[1:07:10] Should the Commission adopt the rezoning as part of this process

[1:07:15] The PUD terms, please.

[1:07:20] What would happen as part of the process

[1:07:24] The party document, which is the governing regulations

[1:07:28] It does become an attachment also to this rezoning

[1:07:32] of the property.

[1:07:33] Thank you Additional concurrent request which

[1:07:38] would be at second reading, should first reading pass

[1:07:42] because there was a previously approved project

[1:07:44] called Wilma on this property, there is a number of resolutions

[1:07:48] that we will have to bring forward.

[1:07:50] Release saying or rescinding those previous approvals.

[1:07:54] Those do include agreements and flex units where then also

[1:07:58] going to have subsequent resolutions

[1:08:00] approving new agreements and the allocation of those units.

[1:08:05] So again, just to be clear, and it's further in the presentation

[1:08:08] as well on the back up, the Wilma project

[1:08:11] was allocated 252 units.

[1:08:13] This project is only requesting the allocation of 89 units

[1:08:19] So this project is located at Wilton Drive

[1:08:21] and Northeast seventh Avenue.

[1:08:23] There is an existing building that will be demolished as part

[1:08:26] of this project So here are some rendering lines of the project.

[1:08:31] Again, it is mixed use.

[1:08:32] You have your residential in the rear and commercial

[1:08:34] in the front, along wilton Drive When

[1:08:39] we look at the back of materials,

[1:08:41] there's four buildings that are identified.

[1:08:43] So we really just want to make sure

[1:08:45] that everyone clearly understands

[1:08:47] what those buildings are.

[1:08:48] With reference, building a is the existing building.

[1:08:51] B and C are the commercials that are proposed,

[1:08:54] and then D is that resident Again,

[1:09:00] this slide is really shown to go through what the landscape

[1:09:03] buffers are going to look like.

[1:09:05] As part of this project The building height there is four

[1:09:11] stories that is proposed adjacent to the single family

[1:09:13] homes So when we look at the elevation here of this project,

[1:09:20] there is a parking garage underneath It's about 6.5ft that

[1:09:23] is sticking up from that from the floor level,

[1:09:26] if you will So when we look at the height of this project,

[1:09:30] it's not just a flat 40ft.

[1:09:32] It is 48.6, 48.5ft.

[1:09:36] And that, again, is taking six and a half

[1:09:37] of that parking garage into consideration

[1:09:41] So as part of the Puti regulations,

[1:09:43] a shadow or shade study is required

[1:09:46] We do have those as part of the presentation,

[1:09:49] but again also as part of the back up.

[1:09:51] There are certain criterias in our code

[1:09:53] when we do look at what these shade or shadow is how

[1:09:57] it is reflective upon our neighbors to any project

[1:10:02] and we'll go through those here, as you can see,

[1:10:05] there is minimal impact Part of the overall.

[1:10:10] There's also required to be a pedestrian and access plan

[1:10:14] So this is their pedestrian access So

[1:10:20] when we look at the Puti zoning the rezoning application itself

[1:10:24] there are a number of components that we do have to evaluate

[1:10:27] for We look at the density, the parking

[1:10:30] requirements, the landscape open space, utilities,

[1:10:34] pedestrian bicycle circulation all of those various components

[1:10:39] So everyone is understanding of what this process is.

[1:10:42] This did go before the Development Review Committee

[1:10:46] They did evaluate development review committee.

[1:10:48] Everyone is made up of various city departments as well as else

[1:10:53] that does review the for the traffic

[1:10:56] that the Development Review committee makes a determination

[1:10:59] whether or not it has met the code requirements in order

[1:11:02] to take forward to the Planning and zoning board,

[1:11:04] Planning and zoning board.

[1:11:05] Here is the application and makes a recommendation

[1:11:07] to the city Commission.

[1:11:09] City Commission is you hear the application and under section.

[1:11:14] Oh 4, dash oh three of the code, there is criterias

[1:11:20] when it comes to, again, how we review it

[1:11:23] And the code also does address how exceptions are considered

[1:11:28] exceptions can also be referred to as a variance application

[1:11:33] variance would be for a standard zoning district.

[1:11:36] Exception is what it's called when it comes to a planned unit

[1:11:39] development Again, this is going through all

[1:11:43] the various components of what that criteria is that we do

[1:11:47] evaluate Now there are 14 exceptions that this project has

[1:11:53] requested and what we did for the presentation was that we

[1:11:58] separated it out a little bit differently, just

[1:12:01] to keep all of the various components together.

[1:12:04] So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go through what's

[1:12:06] identified on the slide versus how

[1:12:09] the exceptions are request stated

[1:12:11] as part of the staff report.

[1:12:16] So the drive aisle with within residential garages that remains

[1:12:20] exception one as part of the staff

[1:12:22] report the length of existing standard parking spaces

[1:12:26] remains exception to three, four, five and 6.

[1:12:31] All remain the same as the staff report.

[1:12:33] So those numbers are the same.

[1:12:35] The dimensional required ment's for the loading spaces that is

[1:12:39] actually exception number ten.

[1:12:41] The required number of parking spaces

[1:12:43] for the residential portion.

[1:12:44] That is exception number nine, the allowance on on street

[1:12:48] parking loading spaces is exception 11.

[1:12:52] when it comes to setbacks, there's

[1:12:53] three setbacks that are requested The building

[1:12:56] setback to the abutting single family

[1:12:58] is exception number seven.

[1:13:00] The setback from steps to property line

[1:13:02] is 8 and the landscape landscape buffer

[1:13:05] with is 12 for signage there is one

[1:13:09] exception request that was for the residential portion there.

[1:13:13] That's exception number 14.

[1:13:16] And then the building height that is exception number 13.

[1:13:20] So when we look at all of these exceptions

[1:13:22] we have to take into consideration that there's

[1:13:24] are all based upon when the application

[1:13:26] was submitted to the city.

[1:13:28] There has been a subsequent ordinance that was adopted

[1:13:31] by the city commission that did take into consideration

[1:13:34] the length of parking spaces So we'll go through that analysis

[1:13:37] at a further in a second here.

[1:13:42] The allocation of flexibility or redevelopment units.

[1:13:46] So units on this property is not buy, right?

[1:13:49] So the Commission does have to allocate the units.

[1:13:52] This is where we currently stand with the allocation of units

[1:13:56] within the city for this area Again,

[1:14:00] you'll see on here that the Wilma on the Drive project

[1:14:03] is identified the 252.

[1:14:07] What would happen again, is we're going to come back.

[1:14:09] We're going to rescind that resolution

[1:14:10] that goes back into the pool.

[1:14:12] And then with the allocation of the 89 units,

[1:14:16] we would have a remaining number of units within the area.

[1:14:19] Again, this is not to you'll see west of 952

[1:14:23] units available The site plan.

[1:14:27] This is an overview of what we do review for the site plan site

[1:14:31] plan review for PWD is similar to any other site plan

[1:14:34] that we do review for floodplain regulation for prevention

[1:14:38] regulation height loading and all of those components of it.

[1:14:42] Concurrency and consistent See what

[1:14:45] the city's comprehensive plan as well as our level

[1:14:47] of service standards traffic So I know traffic

[1:14:53] has been a concern.

[1:14:55] There is one exit onto Northeast Seventh Avenue with signage,

[1:14:59] markings, curbs to discourage right turn into the neighborhood

[1:15:03] This is similar to how the Wilma project was approved,

[1:15:06] where it is, what we're hearing everyone to make that left turn

[1:15:12] There is a proposed speed table on Northeast Seventh Avenue

[1:15:15] that is pending approval through the city's traffic

[1:15:18] calming procedures.

[1:15:21] We do anticipate it through the traffic study documentation.

[1:15:23] We do have our traffic consultant here Should there

[1:15:26] be specific questions about the traffic study

[1:15:29] that this project is anticipated to generate less intense traffic

[1:15:33] than existing developed meant as well as the project

[1:15:38] And again, we'll go through the analysis of the parking

[1:15:42] for commercial All it is required to have a 112 parking

[1:15:47] there, providing 156 for the residential

[1:15:51] there required to have 134.

[1:15:53] They are providing through the exception process

[1:15:57] by there is existing parking of 221 standard on the property

[1:16:02] and eight here.

[1:16:03] And again, as part of this whole process,

[1:16:06] drainage is also been reviewed all of the surface water

[1:16:09] will be maintained on site via underground drainage systems

[1:16:14] and Broward County will also be required

[1:16:16] to review this application and issue a surface water management

[1:16:19] license for setbacks to go over through them with you

[1:16:26] commercial residential along Northeast seventh Avenue

[1:16:29] is ten feet.

[1:16:30] Wilton Drive has a five foot minimum.

[1:16:34] The commercial on the southwest side is ten.

[1:16:37] The residential on the southwest is ten.

[1:16:40] Abutting in single family is 35ft.

[1:16:42] Again, that's at a four story level

[1:16:45] commercial on the Southeast ten and residential on the southeast

[1:16:49] is 35.

[1:16:50] So when we look at the requirement for the setbacks,

[1:16:54] especially when it comes to our single family homes,

[1:16:58] the way the p, u, d regulations state is,

[1:17:00] it's 25ft or the height of the building

[1:17:03] the height of the building along this area is 48ft, six inches.

[1:17:06] And that's where that required setback comes from.

[1:17:09] Again, they've asked for an exception

[1:17:11] from there Planning and zoning board did again,

[1:17:16] make a recommendation of approval

[1:17:17] for the zoning for the rezoning application,

[1:17:20] as well as the site plan application Mayor,

[1:17:24] I do ask that all of the documentation that is associated

[1:17:27] with the back up is included as part

[1:17:29] of the record for this evening Of course there were

[1:17:34] additional conditions that the Planning and Zoning Board did

[1:17:36] ask to be added balcony screening for the top flow units

[1:17:41] ADA accessibility between a and B wider

[1:17:45] planters on the top floors of the residential units

[1:17:48] channelized Zation design for that left turn on Northeast

[1:17:52] Seventh Avenue crosswalks on Wilton Drive.

[1:17:55] If fdot would accept it that would be paid by the applicant

[1:17:59] and reasonable traffic calming measures

[1:18:01] on Northeast Seventh Avenue as permissible by the city's

[1:18:04] traffic calming measure.

[1:18:06] Now you'll see there's another part of this where I did not

[1:18:09] identify initially before I went into the additional

[1:18:12] because I know the applicant will also be discussing some

[1:18:16] of the conditions of approval that are code related that we

[1:18:20] were not able to agree to.

[1:18:23] And anybody efficacious to that.

[1:18:25] But we did agree to modifications to condition

[1:18:28] number 1828 29 With regard to timing and payments

[1:18:34] And we will continue to work with the developer

[1:18:38] here on condition number 35.

[1:18:41] So there are a number of changes that the applicant

[1:18:43] didn't make since the planning and Zoning board.

[1:18:46] There you can see them here some of the staff report modification

[1:18:52] We did change from issuance.

[1:18:55] I'm sorry, from completion to issuance

[1:18:57] for conditions number six, seven, eight, 11, 16, 17

[1:19:00] 18, 28 and 29.

[1:19:02] That is reflected in the backup material

[1:19:04] that you have as strikethrough and underline.

[1:19:06] We had a duplication of condition number nine,

[1:19:08] so that was deleted.

[1:19:10] We added renderings to number 13 added

[1:19:13] for certificate to 34 and 35.

[1:19:17] We added conditions since planning and zoning board

[1:19:20] of Numbers 38 and 39 to reflect water and wastewater

[1:19:23] Capaci we add a number 40 to clarify completion

[1:19:27] of green building points.

[1:19:28] And there were some changes to the actual staff reports

[1:19:32] themselves when the applicant went to Broward County,

[1:19:36] they did require a bus shelter to be

[1:19:38] installed along Wilton Drive.

[1:19:40] There were some on street parking spaces there.

[1:19:43] Those did have to be removed in order

[1:19:45] to accommodate what Broward County had required

[1:19:49] And then they added additional landscaping

[1:19:52] due to those wider planters.

[1:19:53] So that changed their landscape plan.

[1:19:56] I'm not going to go through all of this,

[1:19:57] but you'll like but you'll see here additional changes

[1:20:00] that they did make again, based upon the conversation,

[1:20:03] the direction that the planning and zoning board did provide

[1:20:07] to this to the applicant So i'm sorry there actually was

[1:20:18] supposed to be another slide.

[1:20:19] I apologize out for it.

[1:20:23] And I apologize to the public, what staff did do.

[1:20:25] We also had an analysis when it came to the actual parking

[1:20:30] for this project.

[1:20:33] So again, if we can go over that.

[1:20:35] And I apologize to the public, so existing on site,

[1:20:39] there's 221 standards basis, as I had previous identified

[1:20:43] once this development does happen,

[1:20:46] once we start to see the demolition

[1:20:48] and, you know, that's that separation,

[1:20:51] if you will 61 parking spaces will remain on the property.

[1:20:56] Again.

[1:20:56] The residential is required to have 134 parking spaces.

[1:21:00] They are proposing 95 parking spaces When we look at ADA,

[1:21:05] those are in addition to the standard parking spaces.

[1:21:08] So 134 standard parking spaces requires five ADA spaces Again,

[1:21:18] their exception request is for 95 standard spaces

[1:21:22] with four handicap.

[1:21:24] This is a reduction of 39 parking spaces

[1:21:28] The ADA is not changing because again,

[1:21:31] it's based upon the number of standard spaces

[1:21:34] The the analysis.

[1:21:36] So everyone understands was taken into consideration.

[1:21:40] The proposed change in calculation

[1:21:42] for the mixed use projects that would

[1:21:46] reduce the number of parking spaces of 1.5 per unit

[1:21:50] to 1.25 per unit.

[1:21:53] If that were to occur.

[1:21:55] This project would require 112 parking spaces

[1:21:58] not 134 number of eta spaces remains the same at five that

[1:22:06] would reduce the exception and that would have been

[1:22:10] requested from 39 down to 79.

[1:22:14] The golf cart that is proposed There's seven golf cart spaces.

[1:22:19] That's proposed as part of the residential component

[1:22:21] Those spaces are six by 12.

[1:22:23] They do not meet the requirements

[1:22:25] for a compact parking space which was approved

[1:22:28] in ordinance number 2026.

[1:22:30] DoorDash 013.

[1:22:32] But it does meet the dimensional requirements for a motorcycle

[1:22:35] space, which can be no more than 3% of the required spaces

[1:22:40] So that's an additional seven parking spaces

[1:22:44] So if we were to utilize those two

[1:22:48] or enhances that, did one adopt one proposed

[1:22:53] changes to those calculate options,

[1:22:55] the reduction of the number of parking spaces

[1:22:58] would actually the exception would go from 39 down to ten

[1:23:02] and that they would be asking for a reduction

[1:23:04] from the commercial is required to have 112 parking

[1:23:10] space as they are proposing, 156 specifically

[1:23:14] for the commercial part.

[1:23:16] They are not asking for any exceptions

[1:23:18] from the commercial They are proposing three motorcycle

[1:23:22] parking spaces in addition to.

[1:23:24] So the commercial aspect does have extra parking.

[1:23:28] So when we look at all of this overall

[1:23:31] the total project required is 246 parking spaces with ten

[1:23:36] handicap and total parking being provided

[1:23:40] is 251 parking with ten handicap.

[1:23:44] There is 21 on street parking that

[1:23:47] is being proposed along Wilton Drive and seventh Avenue.

[1:23:50] Those are not in those are not taken into consideration

[1:23:53] to the parking calculation because those are in addition

[1:23:56] to it's not part of that.

[1:23:58] What's required.

[1:23:59] So again, mayor commission I apologize that the slide

[1:24:04] is not available, bye.

[1:24:06] Hope I was able to explain additional in regarding

[1:24:10] at least the parking.

[1:24:11] Thank you.

[1:24:12] Any questions from the commission I have questions

[1:24:17] Can we just clarify the 21 on street parking spaces

[1:24:20] I know that the you know, these plans

[1:24:24] have changed several times.

[1:24:25] And at one point, the way I saw it was that the developer was

[1:24:29] asking that those 21 spaces be included or part of this project

[1:24:34] And I just want to confirm that that is not the case,

[1:24:38] that the 21 on street parking spaces

[1:24:41] will remain public parking spaces

[1:24:43] and they'll continue to be metered.

[1:24:46] Correct.

[1:24:47] OK.

[1:24:48] So if I understand this parking calculation, it's very confusing

[1:24:53] but I guess in tonight's agenda package was Article 30, where we

[1:24:58] were looking to reduce the number of parking spaces

[1:25:00] and also the dimensions giving credit for things

[1:25:03] like motorcycle parking.

[1:25:05] So while we start out with 14 exceptions, a lot of those,

[1:25:11] or at least many of the exceptions related to parking

[1:25:15] either go away or drastically reduced.

[1:25:18] So while there's currently an exception for the 39 parking

[1:25:23] spaces if Article 30 modifications are adopted,

[1:25:28] that would go down to ten.

[1:25:30] The exception would be ten.

[1:25:31] That's that's how I see this.

[1:25:33] Is that right?

[1:25:34] Correct.

[1:25:34] OK.

[1:25:35] OK I just for the record, when I went through the staff report

[1:25:42] on page 831, Exhibit A we talk about PD development standards

[1:25:49] and the very first line has that the minimum lot size for p u D

[1:25:53] is net acres and i know, we changed that a couple of years

[1:25:59] ago, reducing the p u d standard from two acres to one acre.

[1:26:03] So just for the record again, it's

[1:26:06] exhibit A of the staff report on page 31

[1:26:10] that the two acres should be reduced to one acre.

[1:26:12] Yeah.

[1:26:13] And if I can clarify, that's actually part of the p u d

[1:26:15] document that will be updated should the Commission

[1:26:20] approve this project.

[1:26:21] Okay OK.

[1:26:23] Absolutely.

[1:26:24] Thank you.

[1:26:25] I I guess I just want to understand when we go

[1:26:28] to the bottom of your parking schedule,

[1:26:31] we talk about total parking require for I guess,

[1:26:34] the entire shops, the five acre parcel is to 46

[1:26:39] and total parking provide it.

[1:26:41] It is to 51.

[1:26:43] Correct Okay.

[1:26:44] So there's actually five excess.

[1:26:47] I think it's five.

[1:26:49] You have five excess parking spaces So why would there be

[1:26:55] a i guess I'm trying to understand the 39 parking

[1:27:00] space exception Absolutely.

[1:27:03] So when we evaluated the project,

[1:27:05] we wanted to ensure that the residential had

[1:27:08] sufficient parking in order to meet

[1:27:11] the demands that those property owners or those unit owners

[1:27:14] would have.

[1:27:15] So the parking calculations were solely based

[1:27:17] upon the residential component to make sure, again,

[1:27:20] they were able to park it.

[1:27:21] So that's how those calculations come to play.

[1:27:24] And then the commercial shall were addressed to, again, make

[1:27:28] sure that any of those tenants and anyone

[1:27:31] any of those customers, those patrons

[1:27:32] would also be able to utilize the space.

[1:27:36] OK I know that we have some business owners from the shops

[1:27:39] here tonight Can you just explain

[1:27:42] how parking during construction will work for those businesses

[1:27:48] and for their patrons, what they're required and sorry.

[1:27:51] Absolutely.

[1:27:51] So I know So the project be approved The applicant

[1:27:55] and the city will have further conversations,

[1:27:57] but the idea is to have that portion of the parking

[1:28:01] that is within the southern area the area

[1:28:06] in front of the alibi and hunters

[1:28:08] to remain open during construction.

[1:28:11] Again all of this is all the development

[1:28:13] is impacted on the one side of the property

[1:28:17] where six Avenue would still be able to be maintained

[1:28:22] throughout construction We'll go through detailed plans

[1:28:34] once we get to construction again.

[1:28:37] If the project's approved, we're we'll

[1:28:39] be we'll have that Those conversations with the developer

[1:28:43] just to ensure that everyone is fully aware There has been

[1:28:47] conversations to see if there's alternatives that

[1:28:50] could be provided to some of the patrons, to the business owners.

[1:28:53] I would defer to the applicant to go into detail.

[1:28:58] Some of those were Lyft, Uber circuit.

[1:29:02] If there's additional opportunities

[1:29:04] for them to provide, you know, I know we do voucher of that sort.

[1:29:10] OK Commissioner, I think when it gets to the applicant,

[1:29:12] I have questions about that too, that we can OK, sure, sure.

[1:29:16] My, my, my last item.

[1:29:18] I just want to talk for a moment about the period.

[1:29:20] So this is currently arts and entertainment

[1:29:24] zoning under article 30.

[1:29:26] And we would be rezoning to article 40, which really

[1:29:30] conforms to the site plan.

[1:29:32] That's my understanding I mean is APD unique to our city

[1:29:39] or do other cities have planned unit developments

[1:29:41] or similar code that allow for rezoning

[1:29:45] So these are not unique to open manors.

[1:29:47] There are a number of other municipalities

[1:29:49] that do have pudi, Doc, Pudi zoning districts Okay.

[1:29:55] And can you just for everyone here

[1:29:57] tonight can you just explain the difference?

[1:30:00] I know some people call them variances

[1:30:02] and variances really don't apply to a PUD.

[1:30:05] A variance would be, I guess under Article 30

[1:30:08] under Article 40, it would be an exception

[1:30:10] Can you just briefly explain the difference between a variance

[1:30:14] and exception under the code?

[1:30:15] Absolutely.

[1:30:16] So an exception under Article 40 is

[1:30:19] based upon the specific regulation

[1:30:22] and the Puti document is authorized and approved

[1:30:25] by the City Commission So it is specific to that project

[1:30:31] where a variance, although it's still a case by case situation,

[1:30:35] it has different criteria area that's required to be justified

[1:30:40] as you go through those.

[1:30:42] Another difference is variances are approved by planning

[1:30:46] and zoning board exceptions are only through the city commission

[1:30:51] and they do become part of the governing

[1:30:53] document for that development.

[1:30:56] So any changes to that development

[1:30:58] I would have to go back through again,

[1:31:01] depending upon the nature of what that change would be,

[1:31:04] it could have to come back through the city

[1:31:05] commission process.

[1:31:06] And my understanding is that a variance would

[1:31:09] require a hardship or an exception And would not

[1:31:12] the it's different.

[1:31:13] It's different degrees of.

[1:31:15] But a hardship is again, the criteria for variances

[1:31:19] very clear.

[1:31:19] They have three set criteria to meet for a variance Okay.

[1:31:24] Thank you Paul.

[1:31:28] Your Honor to go on to your Honor's.

[1:31:33] So, all right.

[1:31:34] So thank you for this break down.

[1:31:36] It's a little confusing, but it is actually very

[1:31:38] helpful once you follow it.

[1:31:39] I appreciate the clarification that the that based

[1:31:42] on the changes that we've been discussing in the code,

[1:31:45] the reduction went from 39 to 10 And I and I agree.

[1:31:50] You know, residents said earlier, like, you know,

[1:31:52] they should be able to count on the code to be what you know

[1:31:54] what they expect and that if we have a problem with that,

[1:31:56] we should change that.

[1:31:57] So, you know, we're changing the code where it's not consistent

[1:31:59] and it's not what we expect And I know that that code is not

[1:32:04] yet finalized but this is like a great example of how I certainly

[1:32:08] don't know everything but I had not considered just golf cart

[1:32:10] parking as a type of parking, you know,

[1:32:13] obviously, those spaces will fit the dimensions You know what

[1:32:15] we're doing for the motorcycle will absolutely work for a golf

[1:32:18] cart, you know, And so we shouldn't have

[1:32:19] to force it into compact So, you know, personally in seeing this,

[1:32:22] I hope that's something we go back to and revisit in our code

[1:32:25] is to reflect that because I'm personally getting rid of my car

[1:32:27] at some point soon.

[1:32:28] And going to a golf cart.

[1:32:29] So it's not just parking for me Well, I'll be

[1:32:32] happier when I'm off the road.

[1:32:34] So the other thing to you on here

[1:32:36] is I want to acknowledge that the commercial,

[1:32:39] they're only required to build 112 spaces.

[1:32:42] There proposing 156.

[1:32:43] You know One thing that we have learned

[1:32:46] from from our conversations with developers and with people that

[1:32:49] finance it a property can't get financing

[1:32:52] if things like the parking don't make sense.

[1:32:53] You know they're not going to provide the financing,

[1:32:55] because the project won't work.

[1:32:57] I think it shows us something here

[1:32:59] that there there over planning how much for commercial?

[1:33:03] Because I think that they know that that's what they have to do

[1:33:05] in order for this project to work and make sense

[1:33:08] And I think that they're planning, in my opinion,

[1:33:10] on residential is very accurate for,

[1:33:12] for what the requirements of that community

[1:33:14] are of, of a community of that size.

[1:33:16] It's only 89 units or something like that, right So

[1:33:19] that makes sense to me.

[1:33:23] But ultimately that's pending if we approve all the changes

[1:33:26] that we've discussed so far, that's the difference

[1:33:27] on the ten and 39.

[1:33:29] And as far as going back to my last thing is on the traffic,

[1:33:31] I know they'll be further discussions.

[1:33:33] Do we need as a city have to approve their like do they have

[1:33:36] to get an approved parking management plan

[1:33:38] or if we approve this, they're basically have no obligation

[1:33:42] for us to agree with how they handle parking

[1:33:44] during the interim, you know, for the existing you know,

[1:33:47] I mean no matter what, we're still going to have to deal

[1:33:50] with the parking we deal with out for any development that

[1:33:53] occurs.

[1:33:55] So i've had conversations with the applicant already,

[1:33:58] so they have been placed on notice that this is something

[1:34:01] that does have to be definitively determined

[1:34:06] The most important is to make sure that our businesses are not

[1:34:10] in our.

[1:34:12] Let me rephrase that are as least impacted as possible.

[1:34:16] We know that there's going to be impacts.

[1:34:18] That's just the nature of development.

[1:34:20] But we want to try to reduce that as best as we can.

[1:34:23] So I'm hearing that we need the opportunity for us

[1:34:26] to have them come to an agreement on how

[1:34:29] we're going to handle it.

[1:34:29] It's not just purely their choice, correct That's great.

[1:34:33] I the other thing that just to go back to something your slide

[1:34:36] earlier, I just want to confirm One of the most important things

[1:34:40] for me about the last project was the covenant

[1:34:42] that related to the restrictions on the parcels and frankly that

[1:34:48] protected the commercial buildings that were there

[1:34:50] in the way that that covenant was without a doubt, one

[1:34:53] of the best things for the city and for the tenants that

[1:34:57] are there and for our future.

[1:34:58] I know we have to repeal this is is that covenant going

[1:35:01] to come back with the in the set of resolutions

[1:35:05] that it brings back?

[1:35:06] Yes.

[1:35:06] So so there'll be we'll have all of the releases.

[1:35:13] There'll be a developers agreement declaration

[1:35:15] of restrictive covenants.

[1:35:16] There'll be the allocation of units.

[1:35:18] So all of that is going to be part

[1:35:20] of those resolutions that will be finalized on this project.

[1:35:24] Again, should the Commission approve it.

[1:35:27] And I'm going to restate what I understood

[1:35:28] the covenant to be just make sure

[1:35:30] that I have the understanding right.

[1:35:32] That was multiple that was multiple parcels.

[1:35:35] Ultimately And what we said is by agreeing to allow you

[1:35:38] to develop this, you can't split up the commercial

[1:35:40] and residential and then somebody go and tear down

[1:35:43] the commercial and build residential because we're

[1:35:45] sort of allocating the residential over here

[1:35:47] is that so the allocation of units

[1:35:50] is being addressed as part of the documentation

[1:35:53] where it's based upon the overall property.

[1:35:57] And that's the ultimate number of units that

[1:36:00] would be able to be allocated.

[1:36:02] So we're not going to say, okay, you know, you can have 89 here.

[1:36:05] And then, oh, here's another 300 that you want

[1:36:09] to try to get No, it's based upon that overall parcel

[1:36:12] and that will all be identified in those documents

[1:36:14] that we'll see at a later point with the great.

[1:36:16] Thank you all.

[1:36:18] I had, first of all, I apologize.

[1:36:21] I had to leave.

[1:36:22] I have an emergency at home.

[1:36:24] But i had extensive discussions this morning

[1:36:28] with the director and the city manager on the parking

[1:36:32] and on the exceptions.

[1:36:34] So i pretty much am in agreement with everything.

[1:36:37] And I appreciate all the comments

[1:36:38] that Commissioner Darmanin brought up,

[1:36:41] as well as Vice Mayor Caputo.

[1:36:43] So I'm good on the stuff we're talking about now.

[1:36:48] Thank you.

[1:36:49] Good Thank you.

[1:36:50] So I'm just going to ask a few questions about the parking.

[1:36:53] And then I'll reserve my other comments

[1:36:54] until after the applicants speaks.

[1:36:56] So just going on to a commissioner

[1:36:58] Caputo was saying just to help me understand that everybody

[1:37:02] understand about the restrictive covenant

[1:37:04] where we're rescind thing or repealing

[1:37:07] all the other covenants that have been put in place

[1:37:09] with the previous project.

[1:37:09] Everything related to the previous project.

[1:37:11] We're going to reset for this project going forward just to be

[1:37:15] clear, after they build this site are they still able to then

[1:37:19] build on the other half?

[1:37:20] I guess that's ultimately, that's what the questions out.

[1:37:23] My side you mean correct?

[1:37:24] They could, yes And the entire and there are a number of units

[1:37:29] they'll be permitted would be whatever they're allowed

[1:37:32] under the density six units per acre minus

[1:37:34] whatever they're using here.

[1:37:36] Correct OK.

[1:37:37] So there's going to be no restrictive covenant in place

[1:37:39] going forward that they cannot build

[1:37:41] on the other side just to be clear on the alibi's that

[1:37:44] correct Okay.

[1:37:45] Because it's limited version of based upon square footage.

[1:37:49] But yes, I'm sorry, but there's no

[1:37:51] going to be no restrictive covenant for approval of the PUD

[1:37:55] that they can not build other units on the other side.

[1:37:59] Correct.

[1:38:00] A part of that are there's because they

[1:38:02] took 252 units before river grass,

[1:38:04] which took it from that part.

[1:38:06] And now we're taking we're sending all them back

[1:38:08] and like taking 89.

[1:38:09] So there's more But for approval of a paved

[1:38:12] they need the commission approval

[1:38:14] if we want to add some type of restrictive covenant,

[1:38:17] we're entitled to ask for it.

[1:38:18] And they can either say no or we can say no.

[1:38:21] Right?

[1:38:21] Ultimately, that's what a p D is.

[1:38:23] OK And in terms of the number of parking spots, also confused.

[1:38:28] Appreciate it.

[1:38:29] At least I'm not the only one It's confused.

[1:38:33] Yeah.

[1:38:33] So the total.

[1:38:34] Let's just go to the total numbers.

[1:38:36] It's easiest one to understand.

[1:38:37] Total required parking to 46.

[1:38:41] Is that based on the proposed change?

[1:38:44] As to the ordinances that have not yet been passed ?

[1:38:48] Yes.

[1:38:49] At the beginning when you started,

[1:38:50] you said when the rules that apply

[1:38:52] or when the applicant submits their application

[1:38:55] Let me stop right there.

[1:38:56] And you answer.

[1:38:57] So when we look at the number of required parking spaces

[1:39:01] and I'm going to touch specifically

[1:39:02] on the commercial first, we looked at what is existing out

[1:39:07] there, what those businesses are out there what the uses

[1:39:10] and what the current parking requirements are.

[1:39:12] And then we take the new building

[1:39:14] and we parked that at the worst case scenario.

[1:39:18] So that's where we come up with the 112

[1:39:20] parking spaces that's required.

[1:39:23] What's the worst case scenario?

[1:39:24] It's one per 300ft².

[1:39:27] Gotcha.

[1:39:27] So that's our commercial, correct?

[1:39:29] OK.

[1:39:30] Separate from the 1.5.

[1:39:32] 1.25.

[1:39:33] That's all residential, Correct.

[1:39:34] OK just to make sure we separate that out

[1:39:37] So the 246 is inclusive of both the commercial

[1:39:40] and the residential.

[1:39:41] Correct.

[1:39:42] The residents So portion, it's based on the proposed

[1:39:45] ordinances on the 1.25.

[1:39:47] What is what is the documentation that you

[1:39:50] have before you is actually based

[1:39:52] upon the existing code of 1.5.

[1:39:55] So this this document this stuff that we provided,

[1:40:00] what's in the backup is 1.5.

[1:40:03] When you guys i did the extra analysis Okay.

[1:40:06] So it's based on this.

[1:40:07] So if the revised if the proposed the ordinance passes

[1:40:13] this number would even be lower.

[1:40:15] Correct ?

[1:40:17] No.

[1:40:19] OK.

[1:40:20] So the number.

[1:40:21] Yes.

[1:40:22] And they're saying no So I guess different shaking

[1:40:24] heads behind you.

[1:40:25] No, no, no.

[1:40:26] I'm confused Question was, are these parking?

[1:40:29] I'm confused.

[1:40:30] So the last two, if we talk about the larger.

[1:40:33] Thank you, be the last two lines specific to 46 and two.

[1:40:37] So when we look at what is required

[1:40:40] we are looking at 134 parking spaces

[1:40:43] as is required for residential.

[1:40:45] And we're looking at 112 parking spaces.

[1:40:48] That's required for commercial.

[1:40:50] Right.

[1:40:50] OK That's your 246.

[1:40:53] OK.

[1:40:53] The excess options that are being requested

[1:40:57] is for the residential component right?

[1:41:01] Okay.

[1:41:01] And that's where we start to look at the ordinance that

[1:41:04] was adopted.

[1:41:05] And as well as the ordinance that's proposed the adoption

[1:41:10] being the use of alternative types of parking spaces

[1:41:14] like the golf cart parking space is not counted.

[1:41:17] And there 95 spaces, that's additional.

[1:41:21] Okay.

[1:41:22] So if you want to look at 95 plus seven,

[1:41:25] they actually were proposing a 102 parking spaces.

[1:41:31] But again, because the golf cart didn't meet the code

[1:41:34] requirements of a parking space, that's

[1:41:36] why we didn't count those as part of the proposed

[1:41:39] number of spaces.

[1:41:41] So the 134 required residential is that based on the 1.2, 5.1.5?

[1:41:50] Okay So if we were to change our code to 1.25,

[1:41:54] there requirement would be less 112 would be 1/12.

[1:41:58] Okay.

[1:41:59] And then that's where we get that.

[1:42:00] But your total number at the bottom is the 134 residential.

[1:42:04] Correct.

[1:42:05] So the required amount if and when the ordinance passes

[1:42:08] would be significantly or nothing.

[1:42:11] Okay.

[1:42:11] 20 2017 spaces 17 I can't do math.

[1:42:15] OK, but one 1222 the 2134 Yeah, minus 12 okay.

[1:42:21] But I got it OK.

[1:42:24] So I think I'm fine with parking.

[1:42:27] One other thing.

[1:42:28] Just related to the parking garage

[1:42:30] I don't know if you can answer it

[1:42:31] or maybe the traffic person we talk about channelized

[1:42:36] and I understand that's a curve, right?

[1:42:39] Can you just explain to everyone but the translation is

[1:42:42] and unless you want to do some from the traffic,

[1:42:45] I'm going to call up recap only into is that going to only

[1:42:50] be in or is that both in and out Please your name,

[1:42:54] state your name.

[1:42:55] Good evening, Council Eric.

[1:42:57] Yeah with Kimberly Hahn Offset e201 Peters Road getting me

[1:43:03] so you asked about the channel for the driveway So this avenue.

[1:43:07] Yes.

[1:43:08] So seventh Avenue.

[1:43:09] There's one proposed full ingress and egress driveway

[1:43:13] and one ingress only driveway to the south,

[1:43:16] the northern driveway.

[1:43:17] That's where we're going to have that.

[1:43:19] The project is going to have the left only restriction

[1:43:23] And the curb on the south side of that driveway will

[1:43:27] it'll extend out into the street and conflict

[1:43:30] with any vehicle that's trying to make a right turn.

[1:43:32] Only they'll still be able to make the left out

[1:43:36] and the entering traffic could from the residential side.

[1:43:38] Make a left in I believe, right?

[1:43:41] Yeah and make that southbound right.

[1:43:44] Turn it into the site and is that a best practice or anything

[1:43:51] to enhance that because there are other complexes

[1:43:56] i live in one that has one of those and people are just

[1:44:00] are impatient and they have no desire to drive around the block

[1:44:04] and they're constant only making the illegal turns.

[1:44:07] And both in and out they do super wide turns.

[1:44:11] Whatever they can figure out how to get out.

[1:44:13] They drive over the curb.

[1:44:14] I'm not sure it solves the problem that we're trying

[1:44:17] to solve or if there are other tools

[1:44:19] to help solve for that problem of stopping

[1:44:22] the traffic from going southbound

[1:44:24] down sort of avenue there.

[1:44:25] There definitely are more extreme measures

[1:44:27] We've seen rebounder bulls and Miami Beach,

[1:44:29] they deployed rebounder doubled like delineated

[1:44:33] along the center right.

[1:44:34] That's why I was going to say I'll that can physically

[1:44:37] restrict anywhere from turning in the previous application they

[1:44:42] had proposed these restrictions again,

[1:44:45] just to provide that curb extension to physically

[1:44:48] present prevent as well as the turn like the right turn only

[1:44:51] sign the Led signs to, you know, visually restrict

[1:44:56] it the like massive restrictions That's I guess,

[1:45:01] the standard practice would be that.

[1:45:02] Yeah.

[1:45:03] And the concern also with the providing the those elevators

[1:45:08] within the Marina would be that the vehicles that maybe would

[1:45:11] want to come to the site from the residential portion,

[1:45:14] they'll have to circulate around and additional traffic

[1:45:18] on Walton Drive So you know, there's pros and cons for it.

[1:45:22] The treatment that the applicant is proposing at this time

[1:45:24] is consistent with the other one.

[1:45:26] And we were satisfied with that.

[1:45:28] Thank you.

[1:45:29] Thanks.

[1:45:30] In the US and those are from parking questions OK.

[1:45:37] I'll make one request and sure can this be

[1:45:39] made available to the public?

[1:45:40] The sheet that we were looking at?

[1:45:41] Yeah.

[1:45:42] They're going to put out They're going to put on.

[1:45:43] Are we sure that they have access to it?

[1:45:44] Yeah, I think it's in the agenda packet now.

[1:45:47] This one was not about this one was only

[1:45:48] when there was no mayor.

[1:45:50] If I can actually address that.

[1:45:51] What we can do is we can add it to the page

[1:45:53] that we have for development applications

[1:45:55] on the city's web page.

[1:45:56] OK Now that'll work.

[1:45:59] Thank you very much.

[1:46:00] I think he was very complete on our half

[1:46:04] except for the parking which got a little confusing,

[1:46:06] but I think it straightened out.

[1:46:09] Most of my questions are for the applicant

[1:46:11] but I'll get up yet We're going to give

[1:46:15] we're going to take care.

[1:46:16] Five minute break, and then we'll

[1:46:18] get back to me Rob I know You're on you're there

[1:54:26] and you said please, everyone take your seats take your seats.

[1:54:33] Take your seats, please See you and get out of here by 11 1230

[1:54:44] you'll be here by yourself down 1230 before city

[1:54:54] manager, any city commission.

[1:54:55] You're ready Yes, we're all set All right.

[1:54:59] The applicant.

[1:55:00] Please state your name Thank you.

[1:55:03] My name is Denis Mealy 200 East Broward Boulevard.

[1:55:05] Fort Lauderdale On behalf.

[1:55:07] The applicant before I show some slides that I have,

[1:55:09] I want to just talk briefly about some

[1:55:12] of the questions you were asking and provide

[1:55:13] some additional answers.

[1:55:15] So you see on the screen, the what we have,

[1:55:19] of course, building is already there building B

[1:55:22] and C and D would be new.

[1:55:24] So during construction, we're going to keep the building

[1:55:29] a parking lot open and then as much of the other parking

[1:55:32] onsite open as we can.

[1:55:34] Obviously, we're going to have to close off certain parts

[1:55:36] when we're working on it But before we do any of that,

[1:55:39] we meet with your staff usually police department engineers

[1:55:43] and planning to do what's called maintenance of traffic,

[1:55:46] just like you see sometimes when somebody is building a turn lane

[1:55:49] and they have the little orange cones out in the street,

[1:55:52] they don't just go shut that stuff up.

[1:55:54] They work with the local jurisdiction first to see how

[1:55:57] should it be put in where should it be,

[1:55:58] What part of the day etc..

[1:56:00] And we'll do the same thing in this parking lot

[1:56:02] to make sure that as many spaces are open as possible.

[1:56:06] One thing to keep in mind building a

[1:56:08] is 100% leased with businesses that have leases

[1:56:12] going out into the future.

[1:56:14] So we're not going to do anything

[1:56:16] to harm those businesses because that's our lifeblood.

[1:56:19] You those are our tenants and they're staying

[1:56:21] and we're very happy.

[1:56:22] The fact that they're staying.

[1:56:24] People often talk about alibi and hunters They're staying,

[1:56:27] but so is everybody else in that building.

[1:56:29] And of course, we're renovating the building

[1:56:31] to make it look much better than it does today

[1:56:35] So I just wanted to talk about that briefly.

[1:56:37] The issue of the number of units.

[1:56:38] So 252 units were allocated to the property before.

[1:56:42] We only need 89.

[1:56:44] So we're basically giving 163 back.

[1:56:48] The question about a restrictive covenant, we only want 89 units.

[1:56:52] We're not doing this to come back later

[1:56:54] and tear down the commercial and build more units.

[1:56:57] So if you want us to have a restrictive covenant as well

[1:57:01] as the restriction that's in the p, u D, no problem

[1:57:04] because the bottom line to amanda restrictive covenant,

[1:57:07] you'd have to come back to the city commission

[1:57:09] to amend the p u d you'd have to come

[1:57:11] back to the city commission.

[1:57:12] So no problem with a restrictive covenant

[1:57:14] instead of a maximum of 252 units, it'll be a maximum of 89.

[1:57:19] If we could switch to the other.

[1:57:21] Thank you.

[1:57:21] The other presentation my planner gave me 72 slide.

[1:57:26] I'm not showing I'll try to make it like 20 or something,

[1:57:30] and I'll do it as fast as I can.

[1:57:32] I know she's got a long agenda and a lot of people here.

[1:57:35] All right so much or I'll be thorough,

[1:57:36] though I will if there's something

[1:57:38] I missed or something i have questions about.

[1:57:40] We got the other 57 slides there just in case.

[1:57:45] Just let anybody know, though.

[1:57:47] This is first reading.

[1:57:48] There's two readings.

[1:57:49] If it passes tonight, there is going

[1:57:51] to be a public comments during this time Now,

[1:57:56] not just at the B in a meeting.

[1:57:58] Just everybody know.

[1:58:00] I know everybody knows where we're at.

[1:58:01] But that often helps to just look at an aerial

[1:58:04] and see where you're at and what's around you So this is

[1:58:08] our site and you see building a is

[1:58:11] to remain and of course, to be renovated

[1:58:14] and then building the new.

[1:58:16] We would tear down that building in the back

[1:58:18] and build buildings to A, B, C and D

[1:58:21] that Roberta showed earlier just showing you the heights

[1:58:25] of structures around us.

[1:58:26] Because in a minute, I'm going to show you kind of our building

[1:58:28] heights just to see where we fit in

[1:58:32] So this is a little rendering of the project,

[1:58:35] you can see building a kind of in the back building B

[1:58:39] and C, right in the foreground.

[1:58:40] And building D, the new residential building

[1:58:45] Just the site plan Another version of the site plan.

[1:58:51] OK This is what I wanted to show.

[1:58:53] So when we went to the planning and zoning board,

[1:58:57] we had a recommendation of approval,

[1:58:58] unanimous for both items, 7 to 0 but as we started to reach out

[1:59:03] to Commissioner and Mayor, we became clear to us

[1:59:06] that we needed to do better than what we had done so far

[1:59:09] So you'll notice that Or he told me there's a laser pointers

[1:59:13] and that great.

[1:59:14] Although he doesn't have to point out here So

[1:59:17] you notice we got a 35 foot setback.

[1:59:20] It's now 40.

[1:59:22] We were able to building up a little bit.

[1:59:25] We had to meet on top a little bit to make that happen.

[1:59:29] As we were able to achieve without any foot setback.

[1:59:33] And so 35, we have four there's two houses down here.

[1:59:37] The setback 62ft, because this is an open area.

[1:59:40] The building starts here.

[1:59:42] Now, when you're way over here, the setback is 67ft.

[1:59:46] But in this area here where we have 35, you're not there

[1:59:49] for oh I'm sorry.

[1:59:57] So this is just showing you a little vignette

[1:59:59] of that back area.

[2:00:00] So if you look at the lower left hand diagram,

[2:00:04] then it's I'm sorry, do you mind going back to that previous.

[2:00:07] Sure So I just want to understand.

[2:00:12] So the 35 foot setback would be for the carriers property.

[2:00:19] In other words, the other to the left of 40, it was 35.

[2:00:24] Now it was 35.

[2:00:25] Now 40.

[2:00:26] So if we go down a little bit to that corner.

[2:00:30] That's cut out here by the other way

[2:00:33] by Candler with that still be 35 or is that 40 because I

[2:00:38] don't see that increasing.

[2:00:40] We're still strong, 35.

[2:00:42] There because it's really the side of the neighbor's house,

[2:00:46] the garage is actually.

[2:00:48] And so we did leave that area at 35.

[2:00:51] OK.

[2:00:52] I'd like to know if we can increase that

[2:00:55] to 40 as well Yes, we will.

[2:00:59] All right.

[2:01:00] Thank you.

[2:01:01] You.

[2:01:01] I will.

[2:01:01] Let me point out that if we make a change like this,

[2:01:04] which we will do, obviously the staff

[2:01:07] is going to have to review it.

[2:01:08] OK.

[2:01:09] Make sure it works OK.

[2:01:11] And so if it doesn't work, that's our risk.

[2:01:13] We have to make sure it works.

[2:01:15] All right Thank you.

[2:01:16] I appreciate that.

[2:01:16] We will.

[2:01:17] So that setback just to make it clear on here.

[2:01:22] Yes, we come 40.

[2:01:24] OK Piece of the building is going to slide back.

[2:01:27] So we would have 40 on both sides Yes.

[2:01:30] OK.

[2:01:30] We are adjacent to residential of single family.

[2:01:33] Residential.

[2:01:33] We will have 40.

[2:01:35] Thank you Can I ask a question?

[2:01:36] No, you're sorry to interrupt, but I'm

[2:01:39] I need clarity because I've heard two different numbers.

[2:01:42] Now, as far as the required setback,

[2:01:45] I've heard that the required setback for this was 65ft.

[2:01:49] And then I heard the required setback is the height

[2:01:51] of the building at that point, which

[2:01:53] would be 48ft 48ft, six inches, which

[2:01:56] is what your director said.

[2:01:58] That's the actual number.

[2:01:59] Okay.

[2:02:00] So we're not 65, 48.5.

[2:02:03] So you're asking now the exception is

[2:02:04] you're asking for eight feet at the

[2:02:06] is what you're asking for Yes.

[2:02:08] Okay.

[2:02:09] From going from 48 to 40 48.5 to 48 86in 8.5.

[2:02:15] Right.

[2:02:16] Okay.

[2:02:16] Thank you Okay.

[2:02:17] Thank you for basketball and football.

[2:02:20] You're on that slide.

[2:02:21] Since we're asking questions is that okay with you?

[2:02:24] We ask questions.

[2:02:24] So we don't You can ask questions.

[2:02:26] It was not up to him as a mayor Okay.

[2:02:30] I'm okay.

[2:02:31] Yeah.

[2:02:31] So one, I really appreciate you guys have made

[2:02:36] a lot of a modifications, so I appreciate

[2:02:39] you coming in and doing this.

[2:02:40] Unsure if it's going to satisfy the people behind.

[2:02:43] It's not the 45 there, I think, but it shows that you're

[2:02:46] a willing partner of the city.

[2:02:48] So I definitely appreciate that.

[2:02:49] What is actually, though, the height of those that were now

[2:02:52] go from 35 to 40.

[2:02:54] So I've heard different things over time.

[2:02:55] Four foot 5, sorry, four floors.

[2:02:57] Five floors, four floors.

[2:02:59] It's all four floors.

[2:03:00] Putting I have a diagram.

[2:03:02] I'm going to show in a minute that'll show, you know Okay.

[2:03:05] So I think that will answer the question.

[2:03:07] Yeah.

[2:03:07] I just want to thank everyone to understand

[2:03:09] because a lot of different heights because of the garage

[2:03:12] is just a 40.

[2:03:13] It's 48.

[2:03:14] And we just want to make sure everyone understands

[2:03:16] what's going on here.

[2:03:17] Let me let me get right to that, then.

[2:03:19] I'm going to show this first, then I'll do it.

[2:03:21] So the other thing that we did when we were at the planning

[2:03:23] and zoning board meeting they said,

[2:03:26] we want you to do some things on these balconies

[2:03:29] to make sure that you're not looking into people's

[2:03:32] yards and that sort of thing.

[2:03:34] So the first thing is, if you look at the lower left diagram

[2:03:38] here, you see that there's like a planter box

[2:03:41] along the edge of the balcony.

[2:03:43] So you can't walk right up to the railing

[2:03:45] because there's a six foot wide planter box

[2:03:48] So you can walk up this far but your railing is over there.

[2:03:52] In other words, you can't walk up to the railing.

[2:03:54] Oh, here to the edge, because you've got this big planter

[2:03:57] box preventing you from going up to the railing and of course,

[2:04:01] the planter box has plants in at least somewhat vertical

[2:04:05] So i wanted to show you that because I'm

[2:04:08] going to show a line of sight diagram in a few minutes.

[2:04:11] So you can see how would it compare to if we built

[2:04:15] the building like wilma on the drive under

[2:04:17] Article 30 that was 80ft high.

[2:04:19] So i'll show that in a minute.

[2:04:21] So just to clarify because so I understand that.

[2:04:23] So you've got the edge of the building, right?

[2:04:25] And you're putting six foot of the planner

[2:04:28] so that they can't get to the edge of the building

[2:04:31] to prevent sort of some site security

[2:04:33] to the edge of the balcony OK.

[2:04:35] And so you see that green on that diagram in the lower left,

[2:04:39] the green that wraps around the edge of the balcony that's

[2:04:41] the planter box.

[2:04:42] The other thing we did is they asked

[2:04:44] us to put on the sides like that something solid

[2:04:49] So you can't go up to the side of the balcony and look over.

[2:04:52] So we actually have screening on the sides of the balconies to.

[2:04:57] So I want to show that Now, here's the diagram.

[2:05:02] It shows the building height.

[2:05:03] So if you want where it's yellow that's

[2:05:07] one story where it's orange.

[2:05:09] That's two stories where it's green, that's four.

[2:05:12] Whereas blue, that's five.

[2:05:14] And where it's purple, that's six.

[2:05:15] So at one point, the entire basically the entire residential

[2:05:20] building was five stories.

[2:05:22] But when we saw that we do better on our adjacency

[2:05:26] see two single family homes, we lowered

[2:05:28] that portion to four stories.

[2:05:30] That's where you see this again, That's

[2:05:34] where you see the four stories adjacent to the single family.

[2:05:38] These are those balconies that I was just showing you.

[2:05:40] And then the main part of the building is five stories

[2:05:43] and only this part right here is six stories.

[2:05:46] And you see that's the part that's

[2:05:48] closest to the commercial and farthest

[2:05:50] away from the residential neighbors.

[2:05:52] So it's 6, 5, so adjacent to the residential

[2:05:56] where that kind of neon green is.

[2:06:00] That's 48ft, six inches high.

[2:06:02] That's what roberta was referring to earlier.

[2:06:05] And that sets the required under Article three,

[2:06:09] the required setback for that area

[2:06:11] is based on the 48ft, six inches height of that portion building.

[2:06:16] You so the design inspiration the architects love this ellis

[2:06:24] Beach, a beautiful development award winning development

[2:06:26] in the panhandle of Florida.

[2:06:28] Very modern.

[2:06:29] And this is kind of the inspiration.

[2:06:31] Some of the colors, some of the materials etc..

[2:06:33] There's another slide showing a similar thing.

[2:06:37] So the one thing I will tell you about my clients

[2:06:41] as they monitor the social media and we saw that we needed to do

[2:06:46] better on some other things, not just the setback So we started

[2:06:50] looking at colors and signage and everything So first of all,

[2:06:54] keep in mind in our building a where all the tenants are

[2:06:59] staying, it's going to be renovated,

[2:07:01] it's going to be better than it is today.

[2:07:03] It'll look a lot better.

[2:07:05] But then in our new buildings, B and C

[2:07:08] we saw that people looked at this and said,

[2:07:10] Gee, everything looks kind of white and brown

[2:07:12] and not very exciting.

[2:07:15] So we started looking at different things

[2:07:17] we could do to the buildings to make them look better.

[2:07:19] And we want to do it.

[2:07:20] You know, we're not we weren't trying to have them be too plain

[2:07:24] But when we saw that, that was a concern

[2:07:26] we decided to make some changes.

[2:07:28] I want to show you those now So for example,

[2:07:32] here's the area where you're between the two buildings,

[2:07:36] B and C, there's going to be outdoor seating,

[2:07:38] umbrellas tables, you know, for restaurants etc..

[2:07:42] And you see we're doing a little bit of kind of public art.

[2:07:44] You see the signage.

[2:07:46] And when a tenant comes in, they're

[2:07:48] going to be able to do certain things

[2:07:50] on that facade of the building.

[2:07:51] I mean, we're not going to start painting them.

[2:07:53] We're but, you know, they want something with signage.

[2:07:56] They want awning.

[2:07:59] They're just be able to be a little bit of variation.

[2:08:02] But you know, we recognize that Wilton

[2:08:06] Drive in for this aspect of it.

[2:08:09] Wilton Drive reminds me of La Solis, where

[2:08:11] every store is different right?

[2:08:13] But there are areas where maybe there's

[2:08:15] a larger shopping center where you can't cut it up that way.

[2:08:20] So we're trying to fit in well with it.

[2:08:23] I want to assure you that if people are saying the businesses

[2:08:28] that are there that they like well, those are in building a

[2:08:30] and they're staying.

[2:08:31] You know, the other building that we're removing

[2:08:33] doesn't really have anything in it

[2:08:35] So we wanted to show you that And then here's another example.

[2:08:40] Same kind of thing.

[2:08:43] This is the floor plan for buildings B and C,

[2:08:46] you see that we have an area for outdoor seating

[2:08:48] for restaurants, which we think is very important.

[2:08:50] And this is right on the drive.

[2:08:51] So I think it's going to be a great spot showing you

[2:08:57] some of the renovation that we're going

[2:08:58] to be doing on building a.

[2:09:01] And you know, again, that is a better than

[2:09:04] and it's why you're doing the renovations

[2:09:06] on the places that are open hunters and alibis

[2:09:10] and all the other places.

[2:09:11] Are they going to be able to stay open?

[2:09:14] Yes.

[2:09:15] Okay OK.

[2:09:16] Yes, they will.

[2:09:17] And we'll be working with them closely and how we do it,

[2:09:20] you know, you probably you're probably going

[2:09:22] to have some temporary signage.

[2:09:23] So people open with that sort of thing Okay.

[2:09:25] We'll work closely with the with the tenants to do that.

[2:09:28] And I understand.

[2:09:30] I understand it's I got a you look through paper No, go ahead.

[2:09:35] OK.

[2:09:36] And what is the plan?

[2:09:37] Is it renovating this part first?

[2:09:40] Is it A, B, C, or d?

[2:09:42] What is that?

[2:09:43] You're sketch.

[2:09:44] So there's actually we're going to

[2:09:46] in the conditions of approval there's a condition that

[2:09:49] addresses that.

[2:09:50] And so basically A has to happen first.

[2:09:53] Okay.

[2:09:54] What the city has said to us that everybody's been waiting

[2:09:56] for for a long time is to make the existing

[2:09:59] buildings that you're going to keep look better than they are.

[2:10:03] Okay.

[2:10:03] So that'll be the first.

[2:10:05] And then the new retail.

[2:10:06] And then the residential in the back.

[2:10:08] Residential first.

[2:10:09] Right.

[2:10:10] So let me talk about that That's a good question.

[2:10:13] It's important.

[2:10:13] We cover it.

[2:10:14] So the renovation of building a and the construction

[2:10:18] of buildings, B and C will proceed quickly

[2:10:21] because once we're done with this,

[2:10:23] we're going to go get a building permit.

[2:10:25] And build them the residential building

[2:10:28] because it's kind of minimums.

[2:10:29] You have to sell a certain number of units

[2:10:31] before you can start construct one,

[2:10:33] because you can't get a construction loan until you've

[2:10:34] sold a certain number of units.

[2:10:36] So the residential building will probably be the last thing built

[2:10:39] And what happens if you renovate A, you build B and C

[2:10:43] and something in the market changes and the residential

[2:10:48] does not take place for whatever reason, right Financing they

[2:10:53] don't had 50% of the sales A lot could happen

[2:10:57] between now and the year into.

[2:10:59] Of course, we don't think that will happen.

[2:11:00] But if it did we just have to wait.

[2:11:04] And the city.

[2:11:05] I know would make us make the site you know,

[2:11:07] keep the site in good condition I've had clients in the past

[2:11:11] where the city said you're not keeping your property

[2:11:14] in good condition So we you know,

[2:11:17] if that's what would happen, we would tell them not the goal.

[2:11:19] I get it.

[2:11:19] Right.

[2:11:20] Right.

[2:11:20] But it's reasonable to say, well what if it happens?

[2:11:22] Right.

[2:11:23] Okay.

[2:11:24] So Dennis, can I ask a question?

[2:11:26] Could be longer on those.

[2:11:27] Longer Yes.

[2:11:30] When do you anticipate starting this?

[2:11:32] Do you have any idea then which craft identify

[2:11:39] name and address, please.

[2:11:41] Good evening, everyone My name's Ben Boyce.

[2:11:43] I live at $2,816 Northeast 26th Street.

[2:11:46] I'm with Styles.

[2:11:47] Appreciate everyone coming out tonight on the retail side,

[2:11:52] we are currently drawing for CD's and so hopefully we'll

[2:11:56] be in a position to submit those for permit

[2:11:59] within the next probably few weeks As soon as we're

[2:12:03] able to get permits, we're ready to start I mean,

[2:12:06] there's a partnership in place fully

[2:12:08] capitalized and ready to go on the retail commercial aspect.

[2:12:12] Okay.

[2:12:12] I would state though, sorry, just

[2:12:14] to take one step back on the phasing

[2:12:18] and we can talk about this a little bit.

[2:12:19] There are certainly some nuances with phasing

[2:12:21] the site, the buildings b and C, which

[2:12:25] are the new retail buildings, take

[2:12:27] longer to build versus the renovation

[2:12:29] of the existing asset.

[2:12:31] We would certainly want to try to be very mindful and strategic

[2:12:34] about when we start and finish the renovations of the existing

[2:12:37] building Just given that you've got

[2:12:39] the existing tenants in there.

[2:12:40] So again, we can talk about that a little bit,

[2:12:42] but we would work hand in hand with the city.

[2:12:45] We've done that over time.

[2:12:46] Dissipate the new buildings to take the build Yes.

[2:12:50] To the new buildings vertical is probably

[2:12:52] approximately ten months.

[2:12:53] OK.

[2:12:53] Thank you.

[2:12:54] You.

[2:12:54] What about the existing building Existing a building?

[2:12:58] There's always unforeseen conditions, unfortunately

[2:13:00] but you're probably looking at a roughly 120 days

[2:13:04] to complete the bulk of the work on the vertical renovation.

[2:13:07] I'm not a builder.

[2:13:08] I don't claim to be just like I'm not a management accountant

[2:13:12] However, you may want to.

[2:13:14] Everything went out despite our computers up here.

[2:13:18] You know in the back Good job.

[2:13:22] And because it's going to take you know,

[2:13:25] approximately four months high season starts November.

[2:13:29] It's to busiest time our businesses

[2:13:31] make almost no I was like almost all

[2:13:34] them most of their money during that time, it would be

[2:13:37] you could talk with the business owners there.

[2:13:39] And I would recommend you do so.

[2:13:41] I would recommend you can't get it in now like,

[2:13:44] wait till after the season.

[2:13:46] So we don't like cannibalize and destroy their business

[2:13:49] because there's no signage.

[2:13:51] People can't get around There's maybe less parking

[2:13:54] that's my recommendation.

[2:13:55] But ultimately, you all need to figure out what's

[2:13:57] best for the tenants there.

[2:13:58] And for the renovation.

[2:13:59] If i can, I have an understanding that and correct

[2:14:02] me if I'm wrong, when you, Director,

[2:14:04] that they can't be issued a C on that.

[2:14:08] And the buildings until a until A is complete

[2:14:11] Did I understand that correctly?

[2:14:13] So the only thing I would say is and i think that that's

[2:14:16] very smart that you suggest that we talked

[2:14:17] to, that the tenants and the tenants

[2:14:20] may not want it to be during season, bye.

[2:14:22] If that's a tenant choice to do that, I don't want that.

[2:14:25] I don't want them honoring a tenant choice to prevent them

[2:14:28] from building in the retail.

[2:14:30] Like I think we need to account for that if they're giving

[2:14:32] flexibility because of the tenants, let's not,

[2:14:34] you know damage them because of it.

[2:14:37] So when Ben and I were talking about this earlier,

[2:14:40] he mentioned the same thing you just heard talk about ten months

[2:14:43] to build the new buildings, take about

[2:14:44] four months to renovate building a

[2:14:47] and he would like to finish them.

[2:14:49] But basically, the same time So okay then

[2:14:54] and I say that right that he will okay April next year they

[2:14:58] but yes, there is a condition that we have to deal with

[2:15:01] and i'm honored I might want to talk about that for a minute.

[2:15:04] But let me finish, Jacob, can we have

[2:15:07] some additional letters of support

[2:15:08] that I weren't in the back up, so.

[2:15:10] Jacobs is going to bring them up.

[2:15:12] One from the venue one from Heather AB dinoire.

[2:15:20] She was had questions about the channel ization of the driveway,

[2:15:23] wanted to make sure we were sending the cars back to Wilton

[2:15:25] Manors and back to won't drive and not into the neighborhood

[2:15:28] And she thanked us for doing and then also down moody

[2:15:32] and I think that's it, right, Jacob OK thank you.

[2:15:36] And there's other letters already in your back up right?

[2:15:39] OK.

[2:15:40] Let me keep going Oh, these are just some interior shots Oh, we

[2:15:52] also made changes to the residential building

[2:15:57] similar to what I was showing on the retail and a little bit

[2:16:00] of color and a little bit of variation of materials

[2:16:03] from tile and some other things.

[2:16:05] Just to, you know, get away from too much of the too much,

[2:16:10] just the white look just showing you

[2:16:16] the pool area pulled back that area

[2:16:22] And then I'm going to skip to the last slide.

[2:16:24] Now, you don't want to focus on the pet spa.

[2:16:27] Can you do that?

[2:16:27] That's fine Everyone let me tell you,

[2:16:33] I came out a little bit early tonight.

[2:16:34] And I was driving through the neighborhood

[2:16:36] and you got a lot of people walking dogs

[2:16:38] and like our dogs and cats OK.

[2:16:42] So One of the things that we were I got to keep going.

[2:16:46] Right.

[2:16:47] Okay.

[2:16:48] And should be almost there.

[2:16:51] Think it's the second to the last slide.

[2:16:54] There we go Here it is.

[2:16:56] OK.

[2:16:56] So we were asked how would it compare

[2:17:00] the way we're building our building

[2:17:02] versus article 30 building?

[2:17:04] I don't know if that's the right way to say it,

[2:17:05] but that's sort of what you said to me

[2:17:07] So the Article 30 building can be 80 foot high.

[2:17:10] It does have that step back.

[2:17:12] So you see the article 30 building

[2:17:14] is basically the purple line.

[2:17:15] That's what that is.

[2:17:16] We didn't draw the building.

[2:17:17] We just drew the you know, the setback,

[2:17:20] the step back and the height.

[2:17:22] So that this corner right here is that that's the 80 foot mark.

[2:17:28] And actually, under your code you

[2:17:30] can have a balcony extending three feet out into the setback.

[2:17:35] So the Article 30 building will have a balcony right here where

[2:17:39] the person can stand right up to the railing

[2:17:41] and look over and look over into the backyard

[2:17:46] for single family homes.

[2:17:48] Our building even though we're closer to the property line,

[2:17:52] this is our maximum height This is our balcony

[2:17:58] And you can't see the person's house.

[2:18:01] You can see this, which is above the house

[2:18:04] because you can't come up to the end zone and five foot six,

[2:18:08] I can't see anything in a six foot

[2:18:12] So that was the last slide I had.

[2:18:14] But I was asked to, you know, show how would it be, how would

[2:18:16] it compare if you built Article 30 versus we're

[2:18:19] building for the privacy of the single family homes behind us.

[2:18:23] So we hope that we've been able to achieve that.

[2:18:27] You know, when I worked on the last project with the Wilma

[2:18:30] on the Drive and there.

[2:18:32] We had a parking garage in the back.

[2:18:34] And so neighbors said, hey, nobody can

[2:18:37] there are no windows for somebody

[2:18:38] to look out into my yard.

[2:18:39] So I knew it was an important thing because we heard about it.

[2:18:42] Then if we had Windows if they would have been concerned.

[2:18:46] So we said, what can we do to make sure that you can't

[2:18:49] look into somebody's yard?

[2:18:50] And the planter boxes?

[2:18:52] The setback and everything else we did

[2:18:54] seems to have done the trick much better

[2:18:56] than an Article 30 building 80 foot high with a balcony

[2:19:00] sticking out three feet.

[2:19:01] So just for clarity in case other people.

[2:19:03] So when you say Article three, it's what our code allows us

[2:19:06] without modification is the example you give that you know

[2:19:10] and a three foot off of that, you know,

[2:19:13] so you could obviously look down if we did not

[2:19:15] reason if we kept our current WD zoning district,

[2:19:19] we would be the purple line.

[2:19:21] Okay.

[2:19:23] And the planners will that and will

[2:19:26] that is that something that is written

[2:19:28] into that in the site plan?

[2:19:29] So they have to always be there.

[2:19:30] There's not an opportunity that's correct.

[2:19:32] Okay.

[2:19:33] And they're in our PUD document, too.

[2:19:35] So remember what Roberta was saying

[2:19:36] earlier because a p d has a graphic

[2:19:40] that goes with the ordinance.

[2:19:42] It is really kind of the site plan

[2:19:44] was just a little bit less information on it.

[2:19:46] But yes these planner boxes are required by the P, U,

[2:19:49] D, and the site plan.

[2:19:52] And if you feel you need to make that stronger

[2:19:54] and you want to make it a condition or something,

[2:19:56] were perfectly fine with that because we're going to do it.

[2:20:01] You know questions.

[2:20:03] But i have a question.

[2:20:06] Dennis thank you.

[2:20:08] I know you and I have had many conversations and especially

[2:20:12] about setbacks And I had to strongly ask that the setbacks

[2:20:17] start with a four.

[2:20:18] So i'm really glad to see that you've increased the setbacks.

[2:20:21] I remember when you said you wanted to start with a four

[2:20:23] and my client said, Does he mean four?

[2:20:25] I so thank you for that.

[2:20:30] We also had discussions about it when we

[2:20:33] approved the One year project.

[2:20:35] There was a disclosure there was an acknowledgment where people,

[2:20:39] the residents are acknowledging that they

[2:20:41] live in the alternative payment district

[2:20:43] and what goes with that?

[2:20:44] Because I don't want frivolous noise complaints constantly.

[2:20:47] A code And I think that you have agreed

[2:20:50] to put those that disclosure in the bylaws Yes.

[2:20:55] Okay.

[2:20:55] I'm also going to ask typically there's a application that gets

[2:21:00] filed with the rules and regulations where applicants

[2:21:04] will initial it, you know, when it's buried

[2:21:06] in a in a three page bylaw.

[2:21:08] No one sees that.

[2:21:09] But I would also ask that the disclosure be in the application

[2:21:13] package where it's acknowledged and initialed

[2:21:17] with everything else.

[2:21:18] Yes, we will do that.

[2:21:19] Thank you.

[2:21:20] I appreciate that And I know typically,

[2:21:23] we provide, I believe, copies of the condo documents for the city

[2:21:26] attorney to review.

[2:21:28] So we'll provide a copy of the application.

[2:21:30] OK And thank you for the offer with the restrictive covenant,

[2:21:34] we will take you up on that.

[2:21:35] No problem We will.

[2:21:38] I think i think that's all I have for now Chris,

[2:21:42] sorry to jump back in there.

[2:21:44] If I understood it wasn't mentioned earlier that there is

[2:21:46] some sort of agreement that if more

[2:21:49] traffic calming is necessary that you guys were open to that.

[2:21:53] And do I understand that there's some sort of we

[2:21:55] have some sort of construction bond or some bond

[2:21:57] that I mean, I feel confident that the traffic will be,

[2:22:01] as it's described.

[2:22:02] And we won't need to.

[2:22:03] But if we needed to there is some we have some recourse

[2:22:05] to be able to do those.

[2:22:08] Yes, we had committed at the PNC meeting that we would do it.

[2:22:12] Roberta mentioned that you have a system that you

[2:22:14] use for traffic calming.

[2:22:15] So I think she wanted it to go through that system.

[2:22:17] And once it does, if they say that we need to do it,

[2:22:20] we'll take care of it.

[2:22:21] Well, the only thing that the P and Z asked us to do that.

[2:22:23] We're not going to be able to do,

[2:22:25] Remember, they asked for a mid-block

[2:22:27] crossing if D.O.T. approved.

[2:22:29] Right.

[2:22:29] Well, we went to Dot and they said no Of course they did.

[2:22:33] Just draw on that Alaska and we could finish it.

[2:22:38] So any other questions for me?

[2:22:40] I have a question on the planner box and the balconies.

[2:22:45] Those are limited common elements.

[2:22:47] I'm sorry, the planter box and the balconies on a condo.

[2:22:51] They're limited common elements, correct?

[2:22:53] Yes OK.

[2:22:55] So who's going to maintain the planter boxes and who's

[2:23:00] going to make sure that the plants get watered

[2:23:03] and stay there?

[2:23:04] The condo owner, Because you would have to be you know,

[2:23:08] I agree because I mean you have to go through

[2:23:09] that the condo to get to it.

[2:23:11] It'll be the owner's responsibility

[2:23:13] to the individual unit owner.

[2:23:14] But if he doesn't do it, the Condo Association Association

[2:23:16] will have the right to step in and take care of it

[2:23:19] And they have to go through their unit to get to it.

[2:23:22] I'm sorry Interesting.

[2:23:24] It's a patio, though, right?

[2:23:25] Yes.

[2:23:26] Their pad is their back kind of.

[2:23:27] You can get by times You know, the outside area,

[2:23:29] you can do it is.

[2:23:30] No, no.

[2:23:31] These are just balcony keys for an individual unit.

[2:23:33] They're not as not say, party area or something like okay that

[2:23:49] was a very detailed explanation for something I said,

[2:23:52] with fewer words I just what?

[2:23:56] Say it again, then i went to the university of Michigan and Tim

[2:24:01] went to Michigan State.

[2:24:02] So we do this all the time.

[2:24:04] Yeah, that's a problem.

[2:24:07] But so there there's like a hallway.

[2:24:09] I just want to reiterate cause I think what he said is, yeah,

[2:24:11] there's a hallway and then so you're then it's this sort

[2:24:14] of patio on the other side.

[2:24:15] So it's not like people have to like,

[2:24:17] come through someone's private home I don't know.

[2:24:19] I maintain this kind of just need all those words

[2:24:23] and Yeah, I'd say.

[2:24:25] But just just one last question.

[2:24:27] Can we just talk about bike racks for a moment?

[2:24:30] I believe you have bike racks in the garage.

[2:24:32] Is that where they are ?

[2:24:33] Yes, in the garage.

[2:24:35] But also bike racks in the shopping center parking lot.

[2:24:38] And I think it's by the i store.

[2:24:41] Is that where they are I believe that I've just gotten

[2:24:44] some complaints from residents I think that there were bike racks

[2:24:47] at One point over on the alibi side

[2:24:49] because people were using them and now they're

[2:24:52] completely on the other side.

[2:24:54] So I guess my only request is it possible to put some bike racks

[2:24:58] back there That's my request.

[2:25:01] He just said yes Yes, that.

[2:25:04] Okay.

[2:25:04] Thank you.

[2:25:05] You.

[2:25:05] I appreciate it.

[2:25:06] Thank you.

[2:25:06] Go ahead.

[2:25:07] So if you have any other questions for me,

[2:25:09] I'll be happy to answer them at the end

[2:25:11] of the public comment period.

[2:25:12] Like the opportunity.

[2:25:13] Oh, i'm sorry I missed one thing.

[2:25:15] I was supposed to talk a public comment.

[2:25:16] Conditions So I just wanted to clarify on condition number

[2:25:22] six, that's your standard condition, that a site plan

[2:25:25] expires after one year issue.

[2:25:27] A building permit is not issued I've reviewed this with Roberta

[2:25:32] and obviously the commercial buildings are going

[2:25:34] to go within a year, but the residential

[2:25:37] is not because or may not.

[2:25:39] That depends on how long it takes

[2:25:40] them to sell the number of condos

[2:25:42] you needed to sell and start.

[2:25:43] So what time are you looking for?

[2:25:45] 3 years for the condo building Because I think it.

[2:25:50] I hope it will take less.

[2:25:52] But are you knocking down the buildings in the back right

[2:25:56] away when you do the front being see.

[2:26:00] Yeah.

[2:26:01] OK So after a year, though, I mean,

[2:26:04] we want to make sure that's not just a bunch of dust bowl

[2:26:07] back there.

[2:26:08] If you're not going to start it.

[2:26:10] So something has to be done there.

[2:26:11] I'm not saying you need to plant trees or things like that.

[2:26:13] But you have to make sure that it looks maintenance.

[2:26:18] I hear you see that or do something, something rash.

[2:26:22] Yeah.

[2:26:22] Okay Is it possible to put a temporary parking

[2:26:26] lot there to help?

[2:26:28] It would be up to the city because they'd have to make

[2:26:30] it a parking anywhere drainage.

[2:26:31] Unless we look at something temporary

[2:26:34] where there are allowed, even if, you know, travels allowed.

[2:26:36] But you know what I'm to maybe we don't

[2:26:42] need to answer for that now.

[2:26:44] Yeah, that the answer now, but Dennis

[2:26:46] just it's something could be a parking would be the is not.

[2:26:50] So if we knock down the built when we knock down the building

[2:26:53] if we're not starting the condo building right away,

[2:26:55] well, we'll work with the staff rocket repair

[2:26:58] the site whether it should just be grass

[2:27:00] or whether it could be a temporary parking lot I think it

[2:27:03] just we're going to staff you.

[2:27:05] OK?

[2:27:05] But we're open So if we can just go back to the comments

[2:27:10] earlier that commissioners are many have just brought up

[2:27:12] about a potential restrictive covenant

[2:27:15] and building aside from that, I think we would just

[2:27:20] do a restrictive covenant that says in this property right,

[2:27:25] there's only 89 residential units.

[2:27:26] If we ever wanted to build more than that,

[2:27:28] we would have to amend the covenant,

[2:27:30] which means we would have to come back to the commission.

[2:27:33] OK which is frankly better than what we have before And so

[2:27:36] before I was 20, 29.

[2:27:37] Yeah, 2 4, 3, right Is this time,

[2:27:40] Mayor for just general discussion

[2:27:41] on us or just questions?

[2:27:42] OK.

[2:27:42] Yeah.

[2:27:43] Because you're.

[2:27:43] Are you done?

[2:27:44] I just want one thing I needed to do,

[2:27:46] so I wanted to ask about the start of construction

[2:27:49] for the residential which I did.

[2:27:51] And then we talked about this earlier

[2:27:53] on page eight of 11 of the ordinance.

[2:27:56] And actually on page six starts the conditions.

[2:27:59] But the two that I wanted to talk about were 28 and 29.

[2:28:02] So 28 is the one we were talking about earlier about when

[2:28:05] do you do building a, A, B, the other buildings, right

[2:28:09] So right now, 28 says prior to the issuance

[2:28:12] of the first certificate of completion or first occupancy,

[2:28:15] there's a couple of words missing there for the project.

[2:28:18] The facade improvements for building a must be complete.

[2:28:22] So we wanted to make it clear, I'm sorry,

[2:28:24] what we can change that because if somehow we

[2:28:27] want to wait until some time to do that, not maybe summer time,

[2:28:31] but maybe till March or April or May

[2:28:33] even start that because you said you want

[2:28:34] to finish at the same time.

[2:28:36] Correct.

[2:28:37] So if you don't start the building until January

[2:28:41] you really don't want to start of size

[2:28:44] and pride till june maybe.

[2:28:45] And they'll be done before the next year, before that.

[2:28:48] Okay.

[2:28:49] So we can work out a certain way.

[2:28:50] We can do it with Roberta word that that you're

[2:28:53] going to make it so you can best put it towards the summertime.

[2:28:57] I mean, I haven't talked to the businesses yet.

[2:28:58] Maybe businesses will say no to summertime stuff.

[2:29:01] It is We can't afford to have that mess.

[2:29:03] But you know I would coordinate with the businesses

[2:29:06] as best you can and with roberta.

[2:29:09] So because we're going to be coming back for a second reading

[2:29:12] if saying this evening, we could write if you still talk to.

[2:29:15] Yeah, that's fine You come up with something worse

[2:29:18] than the last one.

[2:29:19] I want to talk about was number 29.

[2:29:22] So 29 is a problem because it's tying the construction

[2:29:26] of B and C to D right?

[2:29:29] D, the B in the residential of building B and C beyond.

[2:29:31] The two new commercial buildings,

[2:29:33] you have to get construction loans to build these buildings

[2:29:36] and a construction lender is not going to loan you money

[2:29:38] on your building if you can't build unless somebody else

[2:29:41] builds their building that he's not

[2:29:43] even loaning the money on So 29, we really need it to go away.

[2:29:48] I don't really have a problem with that one,

[2:29:50] to be honest with you.

[2:29:51] As long as long as we know that if you knock down the building

[2:29:54] back there and something happens it's going to take two years.

[2:29:57] And you make it a parking lot parking lot

[2:30:00] or make it a green space for now.

[2:30:03] I mean, that's me speaking, but I don't have a problem with that

[2:30:05] because the fact that he has to get a percentage of of condos

[2:30:09] sold before he starts in our city code, which would

[2:30:12] require, you know, some level.

[2:30:13] You can't just you can't just leave rubble there.

[2:30:15] Right.

[2:30:16] You know, will sort of guarantee us some level there.

[2:30:19] And as long we understand that you would not

[2:30:21] want us to tear down the building

[2:30:23] and leave a bunch of bare dirt there right.

[2:30:25] That's not good for anybody.

[2:30:26] No, I know But as long as put some wording in there

[2:30:29] and talk to Roberta, put some wording in there that, you know,

[2:30:31] after a certain time if you know you're not going to build

[2:30:35] in the next six months that something has to be done

[2:30:37] to that, that will we'll put that language

[2:30:40] into conditional Yeah.

[2:30:42] Now, when we talk about the time frame.

[2:30:44] OK, right in there with.

[2:30:45] Okay.

[2:30:46] Thank you very much again.

[2:30:47] Any questions?

[2:30:49] You still ask questions.

[2:30:50] Okay You said you were done, then you say

[2:30:52] you still have something else.

[2:30:53] Just general discussion, right Okay.

[2:30:54] So many questions right?

[2:30:57] No question.

[2:30:57] Anybody else?

[2:30:58] Any questions for Dennis?

[2:30:59] No, no, no Or you.

[2:31:00] Then you can just like the opportunity

[2:31:01] to come back at that.

[2:31:02] Don't go far away.

[2:31:03] Okay.

[2:31:04] Thank you.

[2:31:04] I'll be close.

[2:31:05] Thank you.

[2:31:05] You.

[2:31:06] So nothing else Like I told everybody before,

[2:31:09] second reading.

[2:31:10] Oh we have a motion in a second.

[2:31:14] So a discussion You anything?

[2:31:18] Yeah.

[2:31:19] So, you know, we're here.

[2:31:21] Well, thank you for the presentation

[2:31:22] and thank you from city staff for that.

[2:31:24] And I appreciate all the residents coming out and voicing

[2:31:26] their opinions and voicing them over the course of the

[2:31:29] past few weeks and few months.

[2:31:32] That gives the developer information just like they made

[2:31:35] changes to some of the walls and actually the aesthetic piece

[2:31:39] of comments that they've heard Not a big fan of PEDs

[2:31:44] And you know, we spent so much time building out the taxes,

[2:31:48] and all the rules So developers and residents

[2:31:52] understand this is what you need to build.

[2:31:54] Although I may not like pewds it's a legal pathway in our

[2:32:00] it's an ordinance in our charter that people

[2:32:02] can follow to get to this get to the same results

[2:32:06] of a finished product.

[2:32:08] So although I like them, they're allowed to do them.

[2:32:11] So I know there's people talking about,

[2:32:14] well, you know, we have rules in place We do.

[2:32:17] But this is just an alternate route

[2:32:19] that they've opted to take that they're

[2:32:21] allowed to do So whether I like it or not,

[2:32:23] it's not about my feelings.

[2:32:24] You're allowed to do it.

[2:32:25] And there's pros and cons to doing it and to not doing it.

[2:32:30] But I will tell people there's some people that may not know

[2:32:34] style is used to own this property Many years ago,

[2:32:37] and there were always a really good partner to the city.

[2:32:41] The people that purchased it from them

[2:32:43] that they have subsequently re bought it back and your.

[2:32:47] Yeah.

[2:32:48] Builders they forever.

[2:32:49] I don't want to say the name, but the previous owner

[2:32:52] right before them in between you own it weren't necessarily

[2:32:55] great neighbors and I was not overly fond of their project

[2:33:00] and i think you're coming in, being a true partner.

[2:33:04] And so i do appreciate that.

[2:33:05] And you've come in with a project

[2:33:07] that you may be asking for exceptions for,

[2:33:10] but you've revised a number of times

[2:33:12] to accommodate residents requests,

[2:33:14] commissioners requests staff requests

[2:33:17] and this is about a long term partnership.

[2:33:19] So i just want to say that that i really do appreciate that.

[2:33:23] I do appreciate it.

[2:33:24] Question of Dominico really pushing that noise issue.

[2:33:27] I think that's going to be really important

[2:33:29] And just as a side note I would actually like city manager

[2:33:33] to make a note that I would like the noise ordinance specifically

[2:33:38] for the Wilton Drive arts and Entertainment District

[2:33:41] to come back.

[2:33:42] So we could have discussion on that at a different meeting

[2:33:45] because I think that may need to be adjusted because we're

[2:33:49] having you know, some development

[2:33:50] and just along the whole idea.

[2:33:55] So I just want to clarify I want to reassure Robert already went

[2:33:59] through the difference between a pretty and a T. You see,

[2:34:02] this is a legal route that they're allowed to take

[2:34:04] Whether I like it or not.

[2:34:06] You're allowed to do it.

[2:34:07] I personally think after seeing this,

[2:34:10] I think it's a great project.

[2:34:11] I appreciate you listening and moving those setbacks back

[2:34:19] a little bit further The current policy allows

[2:34:24] for seven bonus or eight with bonus,

[2:34:27] seven allows seven floors.

[2:34:28] The back of this is four.

[2:34:31] He showed a description of the sightlines

[2:34:35] and I think this satisfies just about

[2:34:39] every single concern carries may not be entirely happy.

[2:34:44] I think it's definitely you're giving a thumbs up.

[2:34:46] So for the record, it's a thumbs up from a from one

[2:34:51] of the couriers.

[2:34:53] So Oh, and I think it's a really happy medium.

[2:34:58] We have a job to do of what's best for the city.

[2:35:02] And I always try to make the decision.

[2:35:05] What's best for the majority of the city

[2:35:08] will never please every single person I know.

[2:35:10] Someone earlier spoke about it did an entrance,

[2:35:16] someone else spoke up.

[2:35:17] Yes, there are a few a few houses away.

[2:35:20] The no matter what we do up here we

[2:35:22] will never satisfy 100% of the people.

[2:35:24] And unfortunately, that's the way it is.

[2:35:26] I try to.

[2:35:27] And in all my decisions, I try to.

[2:35:29] I think this is a really good project for the city,

[2:35:32] especially with the additional setbacks

[2:35:34] only being four stories.

[2:35:36] I was never fond of the seven stories that we allowed.

[2:35:38] There So again, I want to thank all

[2:35:41] the residents for coming out for this We have another reading.

[2:35:44] I want to hear from you.

[2:35:45] But again and thank you for city staff

[2:35:48] and for the developer for bringing this what seems to be

[2:35:51] a really nice project into our city

[2:35:53] and renovating and refurbishing and refreshing what's

[2:35:57] already there existing.

[2:35:58] So building a is the heart of what drive

[2:36:02] And so I appreciate you coming in and not wanting to do

[2:36:05] anything except make it better.

[2:36:06] So for me, that's really really important.

[2:36:09] You said that word to change that could change

[2:36:11] the fabric of our entire community

[2:36:12] and we've heard people talk there

[2:36:14] and public comments earlier.

[2:36:16] This is the community that we have

[2:36:17] and we need to be fighting for it.

[2:36:19] And I hope you'll be partners in that

[2:36:20] and supporting our community going forward Yeah, well, yes, I

[2:36:26] want to really express my thanks to styles to Janice and to Tim,

[2:36:32] because i've had discussions with all three

[2:36:34] of these gentlemen from the very beginning of this project.

[2:36:37] And the one thing I talked to Ben

[2:36:39] about early on, we had a meeting when it was only 25ft.

[2:36:42] The setback And I know he wasn't happy because I said I didn't

[2:36:46] think that would work but I but I said, let's keep talking

[2:36:50] and let's keep having a discussion.

[2:36:52] And we did We had I don't know if this

[2:36:56] is the time for the ex parte communication

[2:36:58] or we do that the next meeting.

[2:36:59] It's not a question of it's not quasi judicial.

[2:37:02] Okay.

[2:37:03] So i appreciate working with the city

[2:37:07] and addressing some of the concerns.

[2:37:10] I live on that street, so I hear it every single day from some

[2:37:14] of the neighbors over there.

[2:37:16] Okay.

[2:37:17] I walk my dog this morning and got an earful.

[2:37:19] But I did We did talked.

[2:37:24] I think I talked to Dennis about trying to go back

[2:37:27] to move it from 35 to 40ft.

[2:37:29] If we could I know you lowered the height of the building

[2:37:32] on that side.

[2:37:33] You put the planters on the balcony.

[2:37:35] So I from a working with a developer for I

[2:37:39] think this has been a really good relationship.

[2:37:41] You've taken into consideration all of our concerns.

[2:37:44] You've taken into consideration the concerns of the residents

[2:37:48] And like Mike said, not everybody's

[2:37:50] going to be 100% happy, but we need

[2:37:52] to do what's best in the broader vision of the city.

[2:37:56] And I just want to be clear that supporting

[2:37:59] a responsible developer is not the same as being proud

[2:38:02] developer.

[2:38:03] And I think that you guys are responsible developers

[2:38:06] and my responsibility would be to determine whether project

[2:38:10] benefits to community.

[2:38:11] And I think this one does.

[2:38:12] And thank you, Don.

[2:38:15] Sure.

[2:38:16] I agree with a lot of the comments

[2:38:18] that our last two commissioners made We

[2:38:21] have not had a condominium in our city, a new condominium.

[2:38:25] I believe the last one was Walton

[2:38:26] Station, almost 20 years ago.

[2:38:28] And I can't tell you how many residents have asked

[2:38:30] me or people that want to move here saying you

[2:38:33] know, where else can I look?

[2:38:34] We'd like a new condo.

[2:38:35] And we don't have any.

[2:38:36] So I think this clearly satisfies the need.

[2:38:41] The last project that we approved

[2:38:43] was the one we're project.

[2:38:44] It was much more dense.

[2:38:46] It was 250 to rental units versus 89

[2:38:51] ownership opportunity units.

[2:38:54] That was a mixed use building This is

[2:38:56] and what I do like, I do like that

[2:39:00] a adjacent to the single family homes

[2:39:03] is really strictly residential.

[2:39:05] You're not going to have commercial there.

[2:39:07] And I think it's a really good idea from a noise perspective

[2:39:10] that people in the residential building

[2:39:12] do not have commercial and noise and restaurant

[2:39:15] in their building.

[2:39:17] So I think that that's a huge plus This building,

[2:39:21] this proposal over the last one, I guess from a traffic

[2:39:26] perspective of generates much less

[2:39:28] traffic I think that there's a lot of advantages.

[2:39:32] I think it's a great project.

[2:39:33] I appreciate everyone's efforts in trying

[2:39:36] to work with the commission I think you did listen to us.

[2:39:40] I appreciate that.

[2:39:42] And i think you listen to the neighbors

[2:39:45] So hopefully we can move forward with this.

[2:39:48] I hope everyone is happy with the end result. And you know,

[2:39:54] I do think it's worthwhile and good project for community

[2:39:59] as a whole.

[2:39:59] So thank you, Benjamin So thank you to Dennis

[2:40:05] and the team from Styles.

[2:40:07] Dennis we've worked with you on projects before

[2:40:08] and I've always thought because you're just always

[2:40:09] an honest person, we could always

[2:40:11] trust the things that you said.

[2:40:12] I remember when I stood next to you and your earshot nice

[2:40:15] and I said to you, But so you could hear it.

[2:40:17] I don't want to talk to anybody.

[2:40:18] And, with this set back the way it is, it's a nonstarter for me.

[2:40:21] And I didn't hear from you, which is unusual.

[2:40:22] But I can hear from you because you

[2:40:24] knew it was going nowhere with the setback

[2:40:25] as it was I didn't hear from you and tell.

[2:40:26] I don't know.

[2:40:27] Was it today or yesterday or whatever it was.

[2:40:29] And i was going to say that even though I'm saying yes,

[2:40:32] are we going to say yes now?

[2:40:33] It was sort of holding back to talk to the residents that

[2:40:35] are affected.

[2:40:36] I saw a thumbs up, which is a good sign.

[2:40:38] You know, I think it is important

[2:40:40] that we honor what the intent is of the rules that we set

[2:40:44] or we change the rules.

[2:40:45] And so I you know I firmly believe that this

[2:40:48] honors the intent of those.

[2:40:49] And if the residents applaud it, and I love that, you know, we're

[2:40:52] going to be flexible and working this so that we you know,

[2:40:55] if the tenants want us to hold off on the improvements,

[2:40:57] we're going to do what they want.

[2:40:59] You know, I appreciate the things you've done because you

[2:41:01] could have gone to seven stories,

[2:41:03] you know, all the way to the edge.

[2:41:05] There's a lot of things that could

[2:41:06] have been done that, you know frankly,

[2:41:08] for probably make more money.

[2:41:09] But you realize this makes more sense for us.

[2:41:11] So I just want to appreciate that I know,

[2:41:13] there's a lot of places you can develop.

[2:41:14] We're happy that you're interested in developing here I

[2:41:19] know somebody said there a couple of years

[2:41:20] said that we've done nothing as far as developing in the city.

[2:41:24] We have done our pasta lot of projects in this city

[2:41:27] that has not gone through.

[2:41:29] That's not our fault. You know, they come to us.

[2:41:33] They said it's the project we make

[2:41:34] changes like we've been trying to do

[2:41:35] with you guys and the economy.

[2:41:38] Sometimes does it to them Right now I know building costs have

[2:41:42] gone up 30, 35%, which is huge.

[2:41:46] So I understand why the hotel is not going just yet.

[2:41:49] But I talked to them today and i got

[2:41:52] a little more positive news that they could

[2:41:54] be happening sooner than later.

[2:41:56] Now.

[2:41:57] And on the drive they're going to put in commercial

[2:42:01] And I've had people say before, well, we

[2:42:04] have to do something about what we drive because there's

[2:42:06] rent spaces everywhere.

[2:42:08] There's not you know, there could be because of the fact

[2:42:13] that people pay a lot of rent.

[2:42:15] And what matters for their businesses.

[2:42:17] A lot of rent.

[2:42:18] And somehow I don't know how some of them actually do it,

[2:42:21] and part of that reason is people buy the property

[2:42:24] for too much money They think they're going to make you know,

[2:42:27] a lot of money off of it.

[2:42:29] And they buy it.

[2:42:29] And then they start telling people,

[2:42:31] now we're going to raise your rent

[2:42:32] for some of the ones that grilled cheese on on the drive.

[2:42:36] You know, they moved out because of the rent.

[2:42:38] And that's not our fault That's people that buy.

[2:42:42] This is the property.

[2:42:43] And then have to make a profit.

[2:42:45] So they raise it up so much that they

[2:42:47] cannot survive there So shame on some of the people that do that.

[2:42:51] This group here, I think you're a little crazy because Styles,

[2:42:55] I think way before you were even on there been.

[2:42:57] But bought that property for a lot less money

[2:43:01] and then they sold it, sold it to somebody else.

[2:43:02] And then you guys bought in back for a lot more money

[2:43:07] But the id, the projects that you want to do here are good.

[2:43:11] I last time you were up here, I know I called you and said,

[2:43:15] it's not going to work You know I look at things like I'm living

[2:43:21] where the couriers live, you know I know

[2:43:24] I bought next to commercial.

[2:43:26] I know eventually something will be built

[2:43:29] but I still don't want it affect my my, my style

[2:43:33] any more than it has to.

[2:43:35] And I thank you for sitting down the last few weeks.

[2:43:39] And I know there's One person in the front row that's probably

[2:43:42] not very happy at all still because he wanted the 25ft,

[2:43:45] but i won't mention their name and won't put it out there.

[2:43:47] But but we've all come to a consensus

[2:43:51] and I think this project is going to go through.

[2:43:54] I hope it will And I want all of you to be back here in the first

[2:43:57] meeting in September, I guess, is when we'll come

[2:43:59] back or 2nd October second one and October,

[2:44:07] September September.

[2:44:08] So I thought, you know 1st or 2nd September,

[2:44:11] if you can talk in the microphone does anybody know who

[2:44:18] it's on when it does come up When do you

[2:44:22] think it might come back to it?

[2:44:23] Because, I mean, you've got to make some slight changes

[2:44:26] here and there or whatever Do you think

[2:44:28] september 22nd would work?

[2:44:30] You have to I, I think I'm going to have to meet with her burden

[2:44:37] right in the future.

[2:44:38] When you come back for second reading help all of you

[2:44:41] come back and have your comments.

[2:44:44] I mean, this is what this commission has always been.

[2:44:46] It's not about what we want.

[2:44:47] It's about what the community wants.

[2:44:49] And obviously, it's worked.

[2:44:50] We worked together here today and and I haven't seen

[2:44:54] me pounding their fist tonight.

[2:44:55] So that's a good thing.

[2:44:57] So i thank all of you for coming out tonight

[2:44:58] to see what's going on in your community So with that call,

[2:45:03] a question, please Commissioner Dami, you Yes.

[2:45:07] Vice Mayor Caputo.

[2:45:08] Yes.

[2:45:09] Commissioner Brockie Yes.

[2:45:11] Commissioner Rowley Yes Mayor Newark, Yes.

[2:45:15] Good luck.

[2:45:15] We'll see you in a month We'll take care.

[2:45:23] 32nd break while they all get out.

[2:45:26] Oh, well, a lot of people.

[2:45:27] Yeah our staff will be left with a table for the next meeting

[2:45:31] Everything Oh, yeah.

[2:45:35] That will take care if you just please exit the chamber.

[2:45:42] Please I know you're going home, but we

[2:45:46] still have business to do here.

[2:45:47] Thank you.

[2:45:47] You All right, stop hugging and get out.

[2:45:54] Ben.

[2:45:55] Hey, Peloton.

[2:45:56] Let's go Go say hello outside, please.

[2:45:59] I think I want to make some meetings, though.

[2:46:01] Yeah, The meeting is not over yet

[2:46:05] but everything they care about is.

[2:46:06] Yeah, Everything I care about is in that I may have to turn

[2:46:12] off the air conditioning.

[2:46:13] You still don't know.

[2:46:27] Where am I?

[2:46:28] Here.

[2:46:28] All right Unfinished business Leaving

[2:46:31] for an unfinished business.

[2:46:34] Harry.

[2:46:34] None of the one city manager's report.

[2:46:37] Thank you.

[2:46:38] New business The bid for process.

[2:46:42] We're getting rid of that tonight.

[2:46:44] The next three items.

[2:46:45] City manager city attorney City attorney.

[2:46:49] Yes, sir.

[2:46:50] We got items 13 b, c and the we're

[2:46:55] requesting for or authorization to in this initiate foreclosure

[2:47:01] actions on three properties.

[2:47:02] I'll go through them individually

[2:47:05] There's one change to the last property with one

[2:47:08] of the cases we're not recommending foreclosure on.

[2:47:11] And I'll get to I'm sorry.

[2:47:15] OK.

[2:47:15] Oh I be surprised.

[2:47:17] Okay One of the cases in the three case against the property.

[2:47:22] I got it.

[2:47:23] I got it.

[2:47:23] Yeah.

[2:47:24] All right.

[2:47:24] So we're going to start with property address.

[2:47:26] Two, three, four, Nine.

[2:47:28] Northwest ninth Avenue.

[2:47:30] That's in wilton Manors.

[2:47:32] We've done our due diligence and read litigation review on that.

[2:47:37] There's one case number 24 hyphen 002952.

[2:47:43] The property is has a lane approximately in excess

[2:47:54] of $125,000 as of July.

[2:47:59] It's continue doing to rise Let me make sure that's true that

[2:48:05] that one's not in compliance all this ready you don't think

[2:48:13] it's not the value of the property

[2:48:16] according to BCP is $699,000.

[2:48:23] There is a lane recorded by the city of pompano Beach,

[2:48:28] but the city's lane will take pro already

[2:48:31] over the Pompano Beach lane.

[2:48:35] Is there any mortgage or loan?

[2:48:37] I'm sorry, mortgage, mortgage or loan on it There is

[2:48:42] a the property taxes are paid.

[2:48:45] There is um, scheduled just to make sure before I say yes

[2:48:53] to that all these questions are going to be asked

[2:48:58] and every one of you ever come here?

[2:48:59] No, no, I know.

[2:49:02] I just want to be accurate when I say it there is not So

[2:49:20] we are recommending and proceeding with the floor

[2:49:24] foreclosure on that.

[2:49:25] Is there a motion, a motion?

[2:49:27] Is there a second Second.

[2:49:29] That's for the 2349 Northwest ninth Avenue.

[2:49:32] What manners properties.

[2:49:33] Correct.

[2:49:34] Any discussion?

[2:49:35] No Got a question, Commissioner Yes.

[2:49:40] Yes yes, yes yes.

[2:49:46] See 27, 33.

[2:49:48] North Enders Avenue So the next one is 27.

[2:49:52] 33.

[2:49:53] North Andrews There's two cases involved in this property.

[2:49:58] We've done our pre litigation review

[2:50:00] and are recommending that we proceed with foreclosure

[2:50:05] Our notices were reviewed and sent properly under chapter 162.

[2:50:11] Additionally, notice was posted and provide it

[2:50:15] with the proof of posting through the code

[2:50:18] enforcement process.

[2:50:20] The lane for number one was recorded back in June of 25

[2:50:27] and the lane number two was recorded in November of 2025

[2:50:34] The first lane was at $250 per day.

[2:50:37] It's a proximately $36,000 outstanding thing.

[2:50:41] And the second lane is also at $250 per day and is

[2:50:46] at approximately $76,000.

[2:50:50] The property is not exempt.

[2:50:52] The taxes are current.

[2:50:53] The total market value of that property

[2:50:56] is approximately $687,000.

[2:51:01] There are no superior interest in this

[2:51:03] and we recommend moving forward on length.

[2:51:06] One end to right is our motion for property

[2:51:09] at 2733 North Andrews Avenue.

[2:51:11] A motion.

[2:51:12] Is there a second.

[2:51:13] Second discussion, then call the question Vice mayor Caputo.

[2:51:17] Yes, Commissioner Rowley.

[2:51:19] Yes.

[2:51:19] Commissioner Rocky commissioner Dami Neo Yes.

[2:51:22] Amir newton Yes.

[2:51:23] Property located at 36.

[2:51:27] All right.

[2:51:28] This property is the one I mentioned earlier,

[2:51:31] where recommend moving forward on two of the lanes

[2:51:36] There's three lanes total against the property that have

[2:51:39] been recorded Lane One is valued at approximately $154,000

[2:51:47] in lane three is a value that approximately 38,000 for lane

[2:51:52] two We are not recommending moving

[2:51:57] forward with that due to potential

[2:52:00] issues with the service.

[2:52:03] And it's not needed for us to move forward.

[2:52:05] We want to make sure we have the best case possible.

[2:52:08] So we're not recommending moving forward with that.

[2:52:12] As far as the other two lanes, the notice was were provided

[2:52:16] consistent with chapter 162.

[2:52:19] I mean, there was additional service

[2:52:20] by posting city Hall, an affidavit

[2:52:23] opposing presented to the magistrate for those two cases.

[2:52:29] Lane one was recorded on December 9th of 2020.

[2:52:33] For Lane three, he was recorded in May 7,

[2:52:38] 2026 As I stated before, the value is 4,

[2:52:43] lane One in lane three are 154,030 8,000, and the property

[2:52:48] is not claimed as exempt.

[2:52:50] The taxes are current as of 2025.

[2:52:53] The total market value according to backpay

[2:52:56] is approximate $642,810.

[2:53:03] We have reviewed the report for the foreclosure There was

[2:53:07] a mortgage recorded before arlene's by the F h business

[2:53:13] on February Fourth, 2009.

[2:53:16] The principal amount of that is $75,000.

[2:53:20] There is no other legal impediments for impediments.

[2:53:23] We're moving forward with the foreclosure,

[2:53:26] but we must make a decision And regarding the outstanding

[2:53:29] mortgage and the value, as I stated as far as equity

[2:53:36] is concern is $567,810.

[2:53:41] Okay, I'm ready to make a motion on 3061

[2:53:43] Northeast Fourth Avenue manners excluding the code number two.

[2:53:49] All right Yes, I'll make a motion.

[2:53:51] You're second.

[2:53:52] Second and any discussion I do, I

[2:53:54] have a discussion about the billing

[2:53:57] that you talked about may not have accurate service.

[2:53:59] So just so I understand, three lanes, two of services Fine.

[2:54:03] You're recommending moving forward The third lean

[2:54:07] there may be some service issues there

[2:54:09] could be a potential defense.

[2:54:12] And it's not needed in order to foreclose the property

[2:54:16] with the values of what we're claiming,

[2:54:18] just so that we can eliminate potential defenses by.

[2:54:23] So we can move forward just based on the other two

[2:54:26] correct defenses Are we still able to collect on that other

[2:54:30] lean if there are surplus funds, are you think

[2:54:33] the whole entire lean is would be invalid due to the service

[2:54:37] issue I don't think it's totally invalid,

[2:54:43] but there may be questions as to that.

[2:54:45] So there may be opportunities to collect on that.

[2:54:49] But as far as thinking, if we can collect on it,

[2:54:51] not so much is I don't want to use

[2:54:53] it for the foreclosure action.

[2:54:54] I don't want to have to put up valid defenses

[2:54:57] against one claim.

[2:54:58] Right on Lean.

[2:54:59] But I want to if we could actually still collect on it

[2:55:02] if the money comes in, satisfies the mortgage and the other liens

[2:55:05] that we have the second lane is valued at approximately $36,000.

[2:55:11] Yeah, but is saying is if those are really not

[2:55:13] a lot compared to the other.

[2:55:14] Right.

[2:55:14] Which is why we're not recommending, you know.

[2:55:17] Okay I could go for apart part of what makes sense.

[2:55:20] And any other discussion Good question you're some

[2:55:24] I'm sorry commissioner dami.

[2:55:27] You.

[2:55:28] Yes.

[2:55:28] Vice Mayor Caputo.

[2:55:29] Yes, Commissioner brockie Yes.

[2:55:31] Commissioner Rowley.

[2:55:32] Yes.

[2:55:33] Your Newton?

[2:55:33] Yes.

[2:55:34] Request to fill a full time customer service.

[2:55:37] We're going to have vacancy City Manager thank you.

[2:55:41] We're still in the process of bringing

[2:55:43] back vacancies for commission approval to fill this position.

[2:55:47] Is the school customer service representative

[2:55:50] within our Community Development Services Department

[2:55:52] and it's primarily funded through the building fund, which

[2:55:57] is generated revenue through building permit fees

[2:56:01] and we find this to be in a central position

[2:56:03] and we're asking for approval fill it So a motion to approve,

[2:56:07] I'll make the motion there.

[2:56:08] Second or second discussion.

[2:56:10] I have just some questions.

[2:56:12] I'm supportive of this, but in general,

[2:56:14] what are we doing in terms of potentially a reception

[2:56:20] as to be answering phone calls or other types of technology

[2:56:24] So these are phone calls and what else

[2:56:26] are we using technology for that may be

[2:56:28] able to optimize in the future?

[2:56:30] Sure.

[2:56:31] So for that department in particular,

[2:56:32] one of the ways we've been able to curb the growth on staffing

[2:56:37] or keep staffing numbers low is through online services,

[2:56:42] specifically online permitting.

[2:56:45] For I customer service.

[2:56:48] We're not there yet, but we've established an A.I. committee

[2:56:52] that has a consultant working with us to bring

[2:56:55] in more programs like that.

[2:56:57] It's also part of our migration into the office 365 is building

[2:57:01] out all of our internal data for a closed system

[2:57:04] and for the potential of bringing

[2:57:06] in aI assisted customers, or it's not just want

[2:57:09] to make sure we're using even like chat bots on the website,

[2:57:13] like simple questions like sometimes it's hard to navigate

[2:57:16] would be nice if there's any chat bot to be like, take me

[2:57:18] here and okay, but let's move forward

[2:57:21] because any discussion other call the question

[2:57:24] Vice Mayor Caputo Yes.

[2:57:25] Commissioner Rowley Yes.

[2:57:27] Commissioner brockie Yes.

[2:57:28] Commissioner Dami Yes.

[2:57:29] Mayor Newton Yes.

[2:57:30] Rules on agenda packets.

[2:57:33] Mr. That was me very briefly.

[2:57:34] So I know like for an example tonight we

[2:57:38] had that extra handout I would like to see if anything is going

[2:57:44] to be added to the dais that for transparency purposes,

[2:57:48] it's part of the agenda packet.

[2:57:50] I know like at the previous meeting, Mr. Caputo,

[2:57:52] you provided a useful tool for residents Never.

[2:57:56] Yeah, they don't get to see that.

[2:57:57] So if we know we're going to be doing something like that,

[2:58:00] let's add it to the agenda packet.

[2:58:02] And then also would be good just to know we were using yours.

[2:58:05] Halfway through.

[2:58:06] It wasn't provided by staffs, it was

[2:58:08] sitting It would be good to know just what's like staff vetted.

[2:58:11] Like if you want to provide something or you or anyone

[2:58:14] of us do that, that's the only thing i would just ask

[2:58:16] about Agenda packets and I would like

[2:58:18] to actually have like tonight.

[2:58:20] I know it was probably late when you got it, but at least make

[2:58:22] copies for the back.

[2:58:23] So people can have it You know, it's

[2:58:26] not I hope that was inadvertently left out.

[2:58:28] I know you didn't do it, right?

[2:58:29] Yeah.

[2:58:29] I wouldn't want to table the whole things.

[2:58:31] We didn't have that paper.

[2:58:32] But when we know about something,

[2:58:34] it would be useful to have it in advance.

[2:58:37] OK.

[2:58:38] Anybody for next meeting to put?

[2:58:39] Yeah.

[2:58:39] Maybe not the next meeting, but I brought it

[2:58:41] up before noise ordinance or.

[2:58:43] Yes, right.

[2:58:43] Yeah We need to revisit to ensure.

[2:58:47] Yeah With that.

[2:58:48] Anybody else So I have something that it.

[2:58:51] It doesn't need to be next meeting.

[2:58:52] But maybe relevant You know I, absolutely.

[2:58:55] I did some calculations talked to developer about the incentive

[2:58:59] like, you know, the incentives how you get

[2:59:01] to the fifth and sixth story.

[2:59:02] Right.

[2:59:03] And the costs because they have to do all incentives

[2:59:05] from the calculations that I've seen and from Roger,

[2:59:08] you know they have some access to some commercial estimation.

[2:59:11] Everything I do says it.

[2:59:12] It's more expense They have to actually

[2:59:14] take the incentive Yeah.

[2:59:16] I mean, like in every in every scenario,

[2:59:17] it was more expensive which I don't think was our intent.

[2:59:20] So I don't know when to look at that,

[2:59:21] but I think it's something we need to look at because it may

[2:59:24] be counter what we intended.

[2:59:25] I think that we talked about bringing the height back

[2:59:28] for another discussion and I'm glad you brought that point up

[2:59:31] because i had a same discussion, similar discussion where

[2:59:34] the developer and we've made it so restrictive

[2:59:37] that it's not worth it for us to expense

[2:59:40] when you I'm sorry, when you say bring the right back

[2:59:43] to incentive, I know we were talking about the height limits

[2:59:48] overall.

[2:59:49] I know we had a discussion on it,

[2:59:50] but I don't think we were referring to finalize it,

[2:59:52] you know, and I believe it's in the agenda

[2:59:55] It's in the Article 30.

[2:59:56] I thought it pretty much in Article 30.

[3:00:00] Yeah but we already talked about it.

[3:00:01] No, no, no, we haven't talked about it Is there a way?

[3:00:05] And I think you may have brought it up at a previous meeting

[3:00:09] article 30, we seem to be talking about different things

[3:00:12] almost every meeting about Article 30.

[3:00:14] And I think a little confusing for me.

[3:00:16] I'm sure it's confusing for them.

[3:00:18] I talked about it with leanne about,

[3:00:21] you know, they did some resident engagements and people.

[3:00:27] It's not the same few people showing up because people

[3:00:29] are worn out when you.

[3:00:30] Charlie she's shaking her head.

[3:00:32] And when you do it piecemeal, people

[3:00:34] don't understand like the full effect

[3:00:36] because some of these changes are going to change

[3:00:38] our city for 30 years.

[3:00:39] Yeah.

[3:00:40] Can we maybe does at the next meeting.

[3:00:44] But like I have a workshop, maybe like just

[3:00:47] do it if we need multiple workshop to do it all at once

[3:00:50] because this piecemeal is it's just it's tough for people

[3:00:54] to follow what's going on.

[3:00:55] But things change, though, is the problem.

[3:00:57] You know them in the middle of it

[3:00:58] and something happens that just happens.

[3:01:01] But no, it means better.

[3:01:02] We can do that.

[3:01:03] But yeah, because then you have multiple resident

[3:01:06] workshops where they do everything all at once.

[3:01:08] They get their feedback because you

[3:01:09] keep asking people to come back and look at this

[3:01:11] and look at this.

[3:01:12] And it's great.

[3:01:13] We have a very committed people here.

[3:01:15] They will come to every single one.

[3:01:16] But when you get the same 20 people giving the same feedback,

[3:01:20] right?

[3:01:20] It's like, how effective really is it?

[3:01:22] So just from the resident fatigue perspective,

[3:01:25] maybe that's can we do that.

[3:01:27] Some just some like a larger workshop of everything?

[3:01:29] I don't I don't disagree.

[3:01:31] And I appreciate like you know, for me, though, I didn't I

[3:01:33] didn't know casting numbers like, you know so it's

[3:01:35] new information for you that maybe everyone

[3:01:37] else is sort of aware of that.

[3:01:38] But it's coming back anyway, so maybe we address it.

[3:01:40] Then the only thing I would say to add to what you said

[3:01:42] is I saw like the transcript of the developer format

[3:01:45] and some of the notes on that, and it was a good refresher

[3:01:48] for me because we have some of the things that were talked

[3:01:50] about there and maybe we don't want to,

[3:01:52] but also in that developer form, it was said that we would like

[3:01:55] bring them back and talk to them about what was proposed

[3:01:58] and I don't know that would necessarily reengage them to say

[3:02:01] are we missing the mark on this?

[3:02:02] And now that we want to do everything,

[3:02:03] they want us to write something up.

[3:02:05] I think we talked about the developer

[3:02:06] engagement and resident thing.

[3:02:07] Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[3:02:09] So it's just hard every meeting.

[3:02:10] And it's probably, I don't know, for Roberta

[3:02:12] hard for you to write.

[3:02:13] It's like just like the perpetual never ending Yeah.

[3:02:18] Keeps her busy But no, we definitely.

[3:02:21] I think we need to have another charrette

[3:02:23] or whatever to call it, but the developers

[3:02:25] and, and the residents.

[3:02:27] So they can all listen to the same time,

[3:02:29] you know, the developer was awesome because you really

[3:02:32] got to know what they're their frustrations are coming

[3:02:36] and we'll manage because we do pass things all the time.

[3:02:38] And then for some reason, they don't build it

[3:02:41] and, and we're getting blamed for not building anything,

[3:02:43] but we are passing them.

[3:02:44] OK.

[3:02:45] I think I think our code is getting a lot closer to where

[3:02:48] we need to be, especially with a lot of the changes that we had.

[3:02:51] And the part does work sometimes.

[3:02:53] I mean, look at now I mean, it took a little work,

[3:02:56] but it did work and some spots.

[3:02:59] I think you do need to have that as a tool.

[3:03:01] You know.

[3:03:02] But you can even see in this last proposal.

[3:03:05] What the what the exception is how small the exception

[3:03:09] is for a project this large.

[3:03:11] If they conform to our new code.

[3:03:13] Yeah.

[3:03:13] So I think that's just an example that

[3:03:16] shows that i think we're, we're almost where

[3:03:18] we need to be getting there.

[3:03:19] Yeah.

[3:03:20] And I think in that workshop, I don't

[3:03:21] know that if it's possible.

[3:03:22] But it would be really nice if some developers were there

[3:03:26] when also residents are there.

[3:03:27] Because I think, like when I went back and read

[3:03:29] the transcript, there are some things

[3:03:31] developers said that I was that had I not read the transcript, I

[3:03:34] wouldn't have known like, why they

[3:03:35] explain they need something.

[3:03:36] And when you hear it, it makes more sense.

[3:03:38] But right now these two parts like they're not hearing

[3:03:39] what we hear from developers.

[3:03:41] And again, it doesn't mean developers are right,

[3:03:43] but I think they need that information to sort of help

[3:03:46] guide them or if it.

[3:03:49] You have it afterwards.

[3:03:50] So are we in agreement?

[3:03:51] Do we want to do some type of workshop

[3:03:54] or what do we want to do?

[3:03:55] Because you know, we just we just tabled

[3:03:58] article 30 for the next move.

[3:03:59] But I don't want to put those code changes off.

[3:04:02] I mean, I think we should move forward with that.

[3:04:05] And then you know, go and going forward.

[3:04:08] Yeah.

[3:04:08] Because that's all prepared.

[3:04:10] I mean, the developers are upset about we,

[3:04:12] but we've, we've already agreed be a consensus on these changes

[3:04:17] So I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

[3:04:19] Let's move those which are already going to be pushed

[3:04:22] forward But I don't disagree.

[3:04:23] I mean, I'm good with going back for application with our.

[3:04:29] All right.

[3:04:29] All right Okay.

[3:04:30] Yeah.

[3:04:31] All right Well, that just means adjourned.

[3:04:33] All right.

[3:04:35] Thank you, Quinn You.

[3:04:37] I'm to Dan

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