[0:04] I think it's

[0:06] >> okay. Well, we'll just get started.

[0:07] Okay. It's 501.

[0:12] We will call this meeting to order. This

[0:15] is Kirsten Thompson, Community

[0:17] Development Committee Chair. We have,

[0:19] sorry, I have to keep notes on my phone.

[0:21] We have in attendance myself, Kirsten

[0:24] Thompson, uh Lori Thomas, and Brandy

[0:28] John's. Um in attendance today um

[0:33] excused from today's meeting is Chloe

[0:37] Cleveland and Severin unless they come

[0:40] later and also our um city council

[0:43] leaison

[0:45] Carrie. Um,

[0:51] Daniel,

[0:53] no minutes.

[0:56] I sent the meeting minutes from our last

[0:58] meeting held in January. We had a little

[1:00] bit of a red light, green light on

[1:02] whether or not we should go all in on

[1:04] proceeding with the strategic plan. Told

[1:07] to go on hold, then told to keep going.

[1:09] So we did not hold a meeting in

[1:13] Febru February cuz it's March now. Um so

[1:17] this is the So we haven't had a meeting

[1:19] since the end of January. So I

[1:20] circulated those minutes. So if we have

[1:24] um if we can approve those minutes. Make

[1:27] a motion to approve the January 2026

[1:29] minutes. Second.

[1:32] >> Okay.

[1:34] Let me just write that down.

[1:41] And then

[1:43] with that in order. Oh, hello.

[1:46] >> Hello. We have a printed agenda.

[1:49] >> We don't have a printed agenda, but I

[1:50] will move your name up to attending.

[1:54] I'm keeping notes on my phone for

[1:55] >> I'm trying to go so fast on Limon Hills

[1:57] Drive.

[1:58] >> Hey, 502.

[2:01] Okay. Well, we just approved our last

[2:03] meeting minutes. We didn't hold I was

[2:04] just saying we didn't hold a meeting

[2:06] last month. We were kind of told to go

[2:07] on hold but then told to proceed. So we

[2:10] are proceeding with uh getting the

[2:12] strategic plan together. Daniel, do you

[2:14] want to just give well first and we need

[2:16] to get an update on budget just to have

[2:18] on public record and then two get an

[2:20] update on you can hold that later if you

[2:23] need to and then update on you've met

[2:25] with a few different city employees and

[2:28] the progress on the strategic plan. And

[2:31] as a council, we did receive part of the planning commission's

[2:37] recommendations.

[2:38] >> I think you guys got like the first half

[2:40] of the general plan or something.

[2:42] >> I'm trying to remember how many chapters

[2:43] cuz I can't remember which is half,

[2:45] which way is half, but we got part of

[2:46] it.

[2:47] >> Yeah.

[2:48] >> Can't remember if we did it in thirds or

[2:50] fourths.

[2:50] >> Yeah, that's what I'm trying to

[2:51] remember, too.

[2:53] >> I thought it was like one through six,

[2:55] but

[2:56] >> yeah, I think so. I think it was one

[2:57] through six. Is this just old stuff or

[3:00] is this Oh, here's the de here's the

[3:02] agenda.

[3:03] >> Oh, just under our

[3:05] >> Oh, I didn't even know we had one of

[3:07] those.

[3:09] He's usually just sitting here.

[3:13] I thought that we she would have had one

[3:15] for us.

[3:17] >> Okay. Sorry about that.

[3:19] >> No, thank you for pointing that out.

[3:23] Okay, Daniel, are you ready to take the

[3:27] reigns? Yeah, sure. And when you were

[3:29] saying chapters 1 through six, what what

[3:30] was that about?

[3:32] >> I think this the council I think

[3:34] received from the planning commission

[3:39] >> uh some chapters of the general plan

[3:43] draft. I don't know if it was

[3:47] this is our copy that I printed. I'm

[3:50] going to ask her to print

[3:51] >> from what the community development

[3:53] committee approved. I don't have the

[3:55] edits that actually make sense. So this

[3:58] is

[3:59] >> my 100page copy.

[4:01] >> So if I'm understanding that correctly,

[4:03] planning commission has

[4:07] what made a recommendation on a portion

[4:10] of the general plan and forwarded that

[4:12] to council.

[4:14] >> Just maybe looking for edits.

[4:16] >> I think all of it now has been passed on

[4:19] to Ben. All of it has passed on to me,

[4:22] but um but because the mayor was looking

[4:24] over it first and then he was doing

[4:26] something before it sent to us and I

[4:30] still don't know if if it shows side by

[4:33] side

[4:35] what the committee did and what the

[4:37] planning commission did or if it's just

[4:40] here's the planning commission

[4:42] because we were supposed to get it side

[4:44] by side or colorcoded at least. I don't

[4:46] know how you presented it to them, but

[4:48] it was supposed to be so that we could

[4:51] see the committee's stuff in one color

[4:54] and the additions or subtractions in a

[4:57] different color from the planning

[4:58] commission.

[4:59] >> I think I don't know what that looks

[5:00] like.

[5:01] >> Yeah, because the planning commission

[5:03] just took the community developments

[5:05] plan and crossed off a word here and,

[5:07] you know, added this little thing here.

[5:09] Um, and gave that to Ben and I think Ben

[5:12] was making the changes that the council

[5:14] will see.

[5:16] I don't know. I want to see I just want

[5:18] to see committees planning commission

[5:21] and then make my own mind. Right. I

[5:23] don't

[5:23] >> Well, you could probably do a screen

[5:25] share and have like one half be the left

[5:27] one one half and you just compare the

[5:29] differences.

[5:30] >> I'll have to ask.

[5:31] >> I think the planning commission changes

[5:33] were pretty minimal.

[5:35] >> Yeah.

[5:36] >> I heard from Wayne today that the

[5:37] planning commission changes so far have

[5:39] been quite minimal.

[5:40] >> Yeah.

[5:41] >> You said a few little things of wording

[5:43] here and there. Um, but a lot of it

[5:45] isn't substantive in nature. And he said

[5:47] most of the goals are staying the same.

[5:50] >> Yeah, I've heard the same.

[5:52] >> I have not seen an example. Okay, so

[5:55] Kirstston, sorry to go tangent. I'll

[5:58] answer your questions. So budget um

[6:00] we're doing great on budget. We uh so

[6:04] the overall project size um I don't

[6:08] recall the amount of the full grant that

[6:11] Wooden Hills received. I believe, I'm

[6:13] going off memory here, that Woodland

[6:15] Hills had a grant plus a match of a

[6:18] certain amount and maybe a little bit of

[6:20] that was spent with a prior consultant

[6:22] early on, but the budget that came to us

[6:25] at Sunrise was 117,000.

[6:28] >> Yeah, I think it was 125 altogether.

[6:31] Does that sound about right, Lori? It

[6:33] was about 125 and then we paid like

[6:37] eight or 10 to the other consultant, but

[6:39] not all of it came out of the grant

[6:41] money because some of it the city was

[6:44] using for that other portal. So, it kind

[6:47] of came out of two spots. But yeah, but

[6:50] >> about that.

[6:51] >> Yeah. So, the amount that went to

[6:53] Sunrise Engineering is 117,164.

[6:57] And right now we have spent um in the

[7:00] 80s, the low 80s. Um so the last month

[7:05] I'm seeing 77,160

[7:07] and I know that we're somewhere beyond

[7:09] that now. So I don't know the exact

[7:10] amount right now, but it's going to be

[7:12] in the low 80s. So that means we have

[7:14] more than $30,000 left. So we have

[7:17] plenty of funding to do whatever. Also,

[7:20] I have been incredibly just on my

[7:23] projects, how I do things. I am

[7:25] incredibly picky on my billable hours.

[7:28] And so, um,

[7:32] you know, we can recoup whatever because

[7:34] I I don't bill a lot of times when I'm

[7:36] just talking with staff or fixing things

[7:38] here and there. Um but yeah, so we have enough budget that we are going

[7:43] to make it to the end of the project

[7:44] just fine and we can do whatever is

[7:47] needed to make sure that we have a

[7:49] general plan and strategic plan that is

[7:51] what the city wants and is useful to the

[7:53] city. Um we'll continue talking about

[7:55] the strategic plan today. I understand

[7:59] that I think there are some different

[8:02] views about what needs to be included in

[8:03] that strategic plan and there's enough

[8:05] budget that we can make sure that uh

[8:08] whatever it is we need to include we can

[8:10] get included. So I wouldn't be worried

[8:12] at this point that we're running out of

[8:14] budget and that we're going to have to

[8:16] cut things or whatever. We'll we should

[8:18] be able to accommodate um you know

[8:21] whatever it is that needs to be in that

[8:23] strategic plan. So that's good news.

[8:27] Um,

[8:28] >> thank you for that.

[8:29] >> Yep. And then what what was the next

[8:31] thing, Kirsten?

[8:32] >> Just what's the status of the draft on

[8:34] the strategic plan? You've met with some

[8:36] of the city employees.

[8:40] >> How are we doing? And

[8:42] >> yeah,

[8:42] >> like to keep that moving this project

[8:44] moving along. And and that's one thing I

[8:46] was kind of wondering about too because

[8:49] it was my understanding that well

[8:51] because the strategic plan will after it

[8:54] comes to this committee will go directly

[8:55] to the council not to the planning

[8:58] commission and so um in getting the

[9:02] staff's input because it will be a

[9:04] council document just like the general

[9:06] plan is the planning commission's

[9:08] document. How

[9:11] what's that process looking like on your

[9:14] side, Daniel?

[9:16] >> Yeah. So, I can work with you guys to

[9:19] get

[9:20] uh the working draft of the strategic

[9:23] plan together and then it will go

[9:24] straight to the council.

[9:27] and the strategic plan. Just so we're

[9:29] all on the same page, they're the

[9:31] short-term goals that outline the steps

[9:34] that the city is taking now to point

[9:37] toward the vision that's in the general

[9:39] plan. So, it's not going to be rehashing

[9:41] the general vision of the the general

[9:43] plan. Um, it's going to be there to

[9:46] support the general plan and to outline

[9:49] who's doing what and what we need to see

[9:52] by when. Um, so more actionable items

[9:55] where people know who's responsible for

[9:57] what, which committee or which

[9:59] individual, which staff member or you

[10:01] know what what board should be working

[10:03] on what tasks, right? Um, and a goal for

[10:06] when that should be accomplished by and

[10:08] what it looks like to have it

[10:09] accomplished. So those are called the

[10:11] key performance indicators. Um, so yeah.

[10:15] Um, so I met with Ted and he is over

[10:21] many of the different areas of the

[10:23] general plan and so he gave me what he

[10:26] sees as his uh next steps. So his action

[10:30] steps and what he sees as the key

[10:33] performance indicators that um he feels

[10:36] like would indicate that he has

[10:39] completed that step um as well as the

[10:41] timeline. And so he has done that for

[10:43] transportation, water preservation and

[10:47] the natural environment as well as the

[10:49] public facilities chapters. Uh for each

[10:51] of those he came up with three

[10:56] yes um three action action steps um with

[11:01] a one to threeyear horizon. So either

[11:03] immediate to accomplish within the next

[11:05] year or a short short term to accomplish

[11:07] in the next two to three years. So he

[11:09] has yeah three of those for each of

[11:11] those. um three chapters. I've also

[11:13] reached out to Sherry with the PTR

[11:16] committee. I know she's been out of

[11:18] country. She's probably back now. Um I

[11:21] reached out again this week and haven't

[11:22] heard anything. So, I don't know if that

[11:24] was discussed at the last PTR meeting in

[11:28] March. I think they met

[11:31] >> two weeks agoish. Um but I have not

[11:35] heard back from her. Um, so I went ahead

[11:38] and started to fill out some of the rest

[11:41] of the strategic plan matrix with what I

[11:46] think might be the direction um to go in

[11:51] these other chapters. So we have um

[11:53] parks and trails. I also reached out to

[11:55] Wayne about land use, housing, and

[11:58] annexation. Um and his response was kind

[12:01] of like, hey, we just sent it all to the

[12:03] council and council's going to tell us

[12:05] what's important. Um, so we can I I went

[12:10] through and I selected things that I

[12:12] think would be the most immediate action

[12:16] steps and the timelines um and I can put

[12:18] in the responsible parties u and maybe

[12:21] before we um kick the entire document

[12:25] over to uh the council we uh run that by

[12:30] uh Wayne and you know the rest of staff

[12:33] and those committees.

[12:35] um

[12:35] >> land use housing and what else?

[12:38] >> Land use housing and annexation which is

[12:40] that last element.

[12:42] >> So Daniel did you um I mean since now

[12:45] legislative session is over we know what

[12:47] passed what didn't pass.

[12:49] >> When we were working on the general plan

[12:50] stuff some of that was still up in the

[12:52] air. So in between now and when we

[12:56] finalize it has any anything been needed

[12:59] to um supplement any changes that in

[13:03] state statute? Good question. I can't

[13:05] think of anything luckily um in the 2025

[13:10] uh update we or 2024 one of those we had

[13:14] updates but we had updates about water

[13:16] in 2024. We also had an update about um

[13:20] transportation and some updates about um

[13:25] the the nodal development for uh what

[13:30] like the station not station area plans

[13:32] but um for some some of those types of

[13:34] situations for communities that have um

[13:37] like UTA stations that was in the 20 I

[13:40] think 205 update but the 2026 update I

[13:44] did not see anything that would put new

[13:47] standards in a general plan. I will

[13:49] double check that. But my recollection

[13:51] from just last week, we had our APA, the

[13:55] American Pine Association. We did our uh

[13:57] legislative roundup or whatever they

[14:00] call it, right?

[14:01] >> Yeah.

[14:02] >> And I don't recall anything.

[14:04] There were some land use issues, but I

[14:07] didn't know if it would affect us or or

[14:09] not or if they were just in general. I

[14:11] mean, there's some things that might be

[14:15] there were so many bills that it was

[14:18] hard to keep track of all of them, but

[14:20] um out of the 200 I think 65 bills that

[14:24] affected municipal government and maybe

[14:27] half of those passed, but it's always

[14:30] hard to remember

[14:31] >> several which ones had to do with um

[14:35] things that would actually impact us as

[14:38] an organization. I I've gone to several

[14:41] wrapups afterwards and I'm still trying

[14:43] to just make sure that I've gotten it

[14:46] down.

[14:47] >> Yeah, I think it's what HB 184 is the

[14:50] main

[14:51] >> land use bill and I can take another

[14:54] look at that, but uh there are things

[14:56] that will need to be updated, I'm sure,

[14:58] within the code itself as there are

[15:01] again more changes with ADUs. There are

[15:04] um

[15:06] >> changes on a lot of random

[15:07] >> two that I was thinking of. There was a

[15:09] couple of water ones. I think it was

[15:11] HP501

[15:13] and then there was also the wildland

[15:16] interface.

[15:17] >> Yes.

[15:17] >> Ordinance one

[15:18] >> and that one had some changes. And so

[15:20] those two things will heavily impact our

[15:23] city. And so it's hard to know, but if

[15:26] you can just double check on those kinds

[15:28] of things and make sure that we're not

[15:30] coming back and having to change all of

[15:32] this again.

[15:34] >> Yeah, a lot of changes about moderate

[15:36] income housing again, but all of that

[15:38] relates to communities with 5,000 or

[15:40] more residents. So you are lucky to be

[15:43] small and exempted from that.

[15:46] >> There was a lot.

[15:47] >> There was there was a lot.

[15:49] >> Yeah. Luckily, some of those that were

[15:52] going to take out sides of city did not

[15:54] pass. So, there were a couple of things

[15:56] that were thrown out that it would be

[15:58] everybody no matter

[16:01] what your city size was. So, I was glad

[16:02] they left it at 5,000.

[16:06] >> Yeah. Um, yeah, if you were a larger

[16:07] city, there would probably be things to

[16:09] change here in the general plan. Uh, so

[16:10] I'll I'll double check and let you guys

[16:13] know.

[16:14] >> Um, do you want me to share my screen?

[16:17] >> That would be great. Oh, okay.

[16:29] » Okay. Are you looking at an Excel file?

[16:32] >> Yes.

[16:36] » Whoops. That's okay. That's as big as we

[16:38] go. Okay. Um, so this is the

[16:42] implementation matrix that I put

[16:44] together. And so you can see

[16:49] uh the chapter, the action step and the

[16:52] timeline. So let's start here. This is

[16:54] what Ted submitted. Um that's not okay.

[16:58] So uh he said to actively update the uh

[17:03] PMP and maintain the roads

[17:06] >> pavement management plan doesn't know

[17:09] what that is. Yeah. Could we not do

[17:12] abbreviations just because we don't want

[17:15] to make any assumptions? And then two,

[17:17] I'm just wondering when I'm looking at

[17:19] this,

[17:20] >> the action step, how do I know which

[17:22] goal it relates to? I get that there's a

[17:25] chapter.

[17:27] >> Yeah, they don't all

[17:30] relate. like some sometimes the action

[17:33] step is an exact verbatim goal and other

[17:37] times it's kind of a subset or like an

[17:40] amalgamation of multiple goals. So I

[17:42] could put um in fact one of my

[17:46] iterations had this. I could put another

[17:48] uh uh column right next to it of goals

[17:52] and I could put the exact citation,

[17:54] right? And some of them are going to

[17:56] relate to like two or three goals.

[17:58] >> Um

[17:59] >> yeah.

[17:59] Yeah. Do you think that'd be

[18:00] helpful?

[18:01] >> I think it would be really great to have

[18:03] the citation in case so that people can

[18:06] kind of go back and refresh their mind

[18:08] on what are we talking about,

[18:10] >> which goal this relates to.

[18:11] >> Okay, I will do that. So, yeah, he says

[18:14] to actively update the payment

[18:16] management plan and to um

[18:20] accomplish a minimum of one maintenance

[18:23] project per year.

[18:26] Um, then reconstruct remaining and

[18:29] that's not spelled right, but I'll go

[18:30] through and edit that kind of stuff

[18:32] later. Um, reconstruct remaining

[18:35] deteriorated roads and complete at least

[18:37] one project over the next two years and

[18:39] actively seek funding and then plan and

[18:41] pursue trail projects for safer

[18:43] non-motorized active transportation. And

[18:46] um, his key performance indicator is to

[18:49] get to obtain grant funding for active

[18:52] transportation. So that can kind of go

[18:53] in parks and trails as well. Um, I

[18:55] haven't heard back from parks and

[18:56] trails, but I was already thinking

[18:58] something along the lines of pursuing

[19:01] grants for park amenities. I don't know

[19:02] that we want to be specific. I know

[19:04] they've applied for pickle ball courts

[19:07] and various things in the past um and

[19:10] present. Um, and so as a key performance

[19:13] indicator, that could be something like

[19:15] applying for a certain number of grants

[19:16] per year or, you know, submitting a

[19:18] competitive application each year until

[19:20] one of them comes through. Um,

[19:22] >> yeah, they usually do a few of them um a

[19:26] year. So far, we haven't received the

[19:29] ones that we've asked for. The other

[19:31] thing that was brought up the other

[19:32] night was um replacing the playground

[19:36] equipment at the park and they get that

[19:39] with a grant or um originally when we

[19:42] put the playground equipment at the

[19:44] park, it was like a fundraiser where

[19:45] different people in town contributed to

[19:48] it and then and so I don't know if

[19:52] they'll want to do something similar or

[19:54] if they'll just go for a grant and have

[19:56] a match be from the citizens. I don't

[19:59] know.

[20:01] But

[20:02] >> is that something that's just a idea or

[20:06] is that something

[20:08] >> it was brought to us by the PTR?

[20:10] >> Okay. So, it's been brought to the

[20:11] council.

[20:12] >> It did in a very very casual way like

[20:15] Okay.

[20:15] >> We would like to upgrade this. Is it

[20:17] going to be in the budget? No, it's not.

[20:20] Sorry. But can you figure out another

[20:22] way? Sure.

[20:23] >> Okay. So, you didn't know how far down?

[20:25] >> Yeah. We did our budget priorities the

[20:26] other last meeting. So, and it was not

[20:29] part of it. And the pickle ball court,

[20:32] we do have some money set aside for it

[20:34] if as a match if they get the grant cuz

[20:38] all grants have a match. So, parks and

[20:40] trails though, like you said, Jensen,

[20:41] you've tried to do some outreach to

[20:44] them. We're just kind of on hold till

[20:45] you get a response back and you're

[20:47] putting together a a draft of maybe what

[20:49] you think

[20:50] >> they would like, but this is subject to

[20:52] change depending on that.

[20:54] >> That Yeah, that's right. Um Okay.

[20:56] >> Yeah. And I'm thinking a key performance

[20:58] indicator should be something based on

[21:00] submitting competitive grant

[21:01] applications, right? Or engagement with

[21:03] the community because we want something

[21:05] that they can control, right? We can't

[21:06] control receiving the grant.

[21:08] >> Um, also I think they should have some

[21:10] sort of action step that relates to a

[21:13] community engagement component, right?

[21:15] something about volunteer events or

[21:18] getting volunteers to do trail

[21:20] maintenance or something with public

[21:21] education, public outreach, you know,

[21:23] something about them engaging the public

[21:25] with some key performance indicator

[21:28] along those lines. And that could even

[21:29] be like creating a friends of or, you

[21:32] know, something where we have the

[21:34] ability for people to submit um whatever

[21:38] it is, but you know, to help with

[21:40] matching um funds, right? Then water.

[21:44] This came from TED. So execute planned

[21:47] storm water projects based on the flood

[21:49] study and to complete one project a year

[21:54] including the first year including year

[21:57] one and then to develop a public

[22:00] communication platform for water

[22:02] conservation and he wants that fully

[22:05] implemented through Yapify which is

[22:07] something that they've been working on

[22:10] and then educate and train the public on

[22:12] the state's wildfire risk program

[22:15] related to HB 48 from last year and

[22:18] there there's going to also be this

[22:20] year. Um

[22:22] >> yeah, that's one of the ones I was

[22:23] asking you to double check and make sure

[22:24] that anything else in our plan is

[22:27] doesn't leave out because that's a

[22:29] pretty big one.

[22:30] >> Yeah, that is a big one. Um so I can

[22:33] take a look at that. Um

[22:36] so yeah, he wanted something about

[22:38] public education with 50% um responses

[22:42] to homeowner inspections within two

[22:45] years of inspections offered. So the the

[22:47] state of Utah uh will offer inspections

[22:50] for people um to to check that they have

[22:56] taken the mitigation steps under HB48 if

[23:00] they're in a WOOI area. Um and and his

[23:03] uh KPI is that 50% of the residents in

[23:07] Woodland Hills would have participated

[23:10] within the first two years. I can work

[23:11] on that wording. That just is what came

[23:13] from Ted.

[23:14] >> I think they've already started that a

[23:16] little bit. Um just in our local fire

[23:18] department has been going around. I've

[23:20] had a few calls from residents who have

[23:22] gotten door hangers with something and

[23:24] they're calling me to say, "Carrie, what

[23:26] is this?" and I haven't had a chance to

[23:28] ask him, but uh they want to make sure

[23:31] that it's local people and it's optional

[23:34] and whatever because somebody was going

[23:36] around town saying, "By the way, if you

[23:38] answer that door hanger, they're going

[23:40] to increase your insurance."

[23:42] >> So, it it's easy how how misinformation

[23:46] can just spread like crazy when one

[23:48] person says, "That's why they put it on

[23:50] your door."

[23:51] >> Yeah.

[23:51] >> They're going to turn you into your

[23:52] insurance company. I said, "How are they

[23:54] going to know who your insurance company

[23:55] is? would be the opposite also. Anyway,

[23:59] okay. Um, and public facilities. So, to

[24:02] plan, fund, and execute a water

[24:04] replacement project. And he'd like to

[24:06] have a project funded with a design in

[24:09] progress in the next year. And then

[24:11] update the water master plan and have

[24:14] that water master plan completed in the

[24:16] next two to three years. And have a

[24:18] fully functioning asset management plan.

[24:21] and to be able to complete and track all

[24:23] assets in the next 2 to 3 years. Um, so

[24:27] that's what came from TED. Then for land

[24:30] use and housing,

[24:32] um, these ones came from me just based

[24:34] on what I'm thinking looks like

[24:38] where we are. Um, so the first one is,

[24:42] uh, just as Carrie was saying, um, to

[24:44] update and align the land use code with

[24:46] the new general plan and the LMA updates

[24:48] from 2026.

[24:50] >> Um, fill out web so that everybody

[24:52] knows.

[24:53] >> Yeah, sure. Uh I'll Yeah, I'll I'll I'll

[24:56] work on the late the wording later. Um

[24:58] so, Utah code updates.

[25:01] >> Um

[25:02] so, develop consensus on desired design

[25:06] guidelines and styles for a potential

[25:09] commercial mixeduse overlay. Here's

[25:10] where I want to be really careful,

[25:11] right? I want to make sure that we're

[25:15] pointing in the right direction and and

[25:17] I don't want to point people toward

[25:18] contention. I also don't want to point

[25:20] people toward um

[25:23] what a vision that it's not going to

[25:25] like materialize. And so the first two I

[25:28] thought well first of all Wooden Hills

[25:29] needs to know

[25:31] what what would they want right? Um is

[25:34] there consensus here? Do we have an idea

[25:37] if if a develop if Wooden Hills was

[25:39] going to work with the developer to come

[25:40] up with an overlay? Do we have an idea

[25:42] of what type of design standards we even

[25:44] like? What type of product we'd even

[25:47] like to see? Right. Um, I don't think we

[25:50] do. I think there's kind of a vision. I

[25:53] don't know if it's fully shared, but my

[25:55] sense is

[25:57] people have some different visions. We

[25:59] kind of have an idea, right? We have

[26:01] enough of an idea that we were able to

[26:02] put a general plan together, but maybe

[26:04] not enough of an idea that we're able to

[26:05] put a code together. Do you think does

[26:07] that feel accurate? I think so because I think that we want to make sure that

[26:14] if that land sells that we have

[26:17] something in place prior so if a

[26:19] developer comes we're not just going uh

[26:22] I don't know we'll get back with you. We

[26:23] want to be able to say these are some

[26:25] ideas we have let's work together.

[26:28] >> Um so I think it would be important that

[26:31] we have something in place. I mean, it

[26:33] took a long time when we did the overlay

[26:35] for Summit Creek and um

[26:40] and it still didn't necessarily come out

[26:43] the way we had thought it would because

[26:45] sometimes things are done in a just a

[26:48] discussion and not necessarily in the

[26:50] written and so I think it's important to

[26:52] have it written out so that if a

[26:54] developer comes

[26:56] we have we have some written documents

[26:59] that at least guide us.

[27:02] Yeah. So that's why I was think kind of

[27:04] a three-step approach here. So the first

[27:05] one is uh those discussions, right?

[27:10] Develop some sort of consensus on what is wanted. The next thing is what's

[27:15] the feasibility, right? And so that's

[27:17] where the city would need to talk to

[27:20] some developers and get a sense of is

[27:23] this really the right spot? What would

[27:25] actually come here? What would pencil?

[27:27] Right? like we don't want to go and

[27:29] create a code only to find out that what

[27:32] we're thinking isn't even going to work,

[27:34] right? And then the third one is once we have a vision, once we have

[27:38] consensus as to like what we'd want,

[27:40] once we know that, hey, it could

[27:42] actually pencil if the right developer

[27:44] comes along, they could actually

[27:44] construct it, then we can go to let's

[27:47] create the commercial mixeduse overlay

[27:49] or or zone, right? Um,

[27:52] >> yeah, when we talked about a little bit,

[27:54] you know, the the mayor's thinking more

[27:56] kind of like how you presented at one

[27:58] time, Daniel, maybe kind of a main

[28:00] street type where it's flat, but it's

[28:04] like a main street so that there's a

[28:06] gathering place that's not just the park

[28:08] that would have parking and other

[28:10] things. And he also wants to put in a

[28:12] cemetery. So, that's interesting. Um,

[28:18] and so I think that that's the route he

[28:21] would like to go, but not necessarily

[28:23] knowing

[28:25] where it is. It's still just a cloud of ideas, right? And so having some more

[28:32] consensus and and designations would at

[28:35] least be some framework for a

[28:37] discussion.

[28:39] >> So I'm assuming responsible parties for

[28:42] what you've just discussed, land use

[28:43] housing. you've mentioned already.

[28:45] That's planning commission and does that

[28:49] mean also city council?

[28:51] >> So all land use goes by law goes to

[28:54] planning commission first and then to

[28:56] city council.

[28:57] >> Okay. Because planning commission can't authorize

[29:01] anything but it has to go through them

[29:04] and then it goes to the council with

[29:06] their recommendation which may or may

[29:08] not be um taken but most most of the

[29:12] time it's taken

[29:14] >> because they do a lot of hard work.

[29:19] » Yeah. So does that feel like the right

[29:22] direction? And with housing, I was also

[29:24] I put on there

[29:27] adopting the actual design standards.

[29:29] Again, that's going to be a few years

[29:30] out. You need to have a vision first,

[29:32] right? We need to develop the consensus

[29:34] on what's desired, know what's feasible,

[29:38] >> and after you do that, then we can start

[29:40] looking um at the the standards.

[29:44] Sometimes communities flip those and

[29:45] they spend all this time. They create an

[29:47] ordinance. They put all these standards

[29:48] in there. It looks really great, but

[29:50] they've never really figured out where

[29:52] it's going to go and if it even is

[29:54] feasible.

[29:55] >> It's feasible.

[29:55] >> And then it just sits there for 30 years

[29:59] >> because it's not

[29:59] >> Well, that's what we've had in our past

[30:01] general plan. We had that strip along

[30:04] 11200 as potential commercial or the

[30:08] part that now is owned by um Three Bridges that it was potential.

[30:16] But it's been like that for 20ome years

[30:19] and there was never a step to say maybe

[30:23] right because

[30:25] >> so it was just it's just one of those

[30:26] things and so I think that it's better

[30:29] to be in line so that as people are

[30:32] looking

[30:34] uh one of the things that comes up a lot

[30:36] in discussions in the housing industry

[30:38] and and in legislators with legislators

[30:42] is are you prepared not necessarily are

[30:45] you building something although they

[30:47] want us to but are you prepared if

[30:50] someone comes in to to have the same

[30:53] vision that they have in in but in our

[30:56] own way.

[31:00] Okay. I just have a few notes. So you'll

[31:04] spell out any abbreviations. So you've

[31:06] already mentioned that if there's any

[31:09] links like the LMA one, does it is there

[31:12] a a website that's like a reference?

[31:17] » Yeah, I mean I'll just put Utah code

[31:18] here.

[31:20] Utah code 2026 updates.

[31:22] >> Yeah, if there's ever any time that it's

[31:24] just maybe helpful for whoever is in

[31:26] charge of this to be able to, you know,

[31:28] then link to the Utah code website. Um,

[31:32] so any opportunity for that that can

[31:34] link them somewhere for their work I

[31:36] think is ideal. Um,

[31:41] can we turn this into a table when it's

[31:44] closer to being final so that you can

[31:47] filter and search by the name of the

[31:49] responsible party or the chapter or you

[31:52] know whatever. And then and I'm happy to

[31:56] help with this Excel part of things

[32:00] um if you want to share it with me, but

[32:03] I also feel like you probably know how

[32:05] to do a lot of this. Um and then I think

[32:09] it would also be nice if the different

[32:12] chapters were colorcoded

[32:16] >> so you it's just a little more readable.

[32:22] » Um yeah. So with that my recollection is

[32:25] we had talked about

[32:27] >> whether I should put

[32:31] the whole strategic plan and matrix in

[32:34] the same format as a general plan like

[32:35] an in in design or keep it as something

[32:38] like an Excel file so then it's really

[32:40] easily adjustable and I think we had

[32:42] said let's keep it in a format like this

[32:46] not in in design so we can go and change

[32:48] it as time goes on. Is that right?

[32:50] >> I think that's still the best way

[32:52] forward. Does anybody else have an

[32:54] opinion on that? So it's not just like a

[32:56] PDF that's difficult maybe to adjust.

[32:59] You want it to be a little more living

[33:02] >> document. Absolutely.

[33:03] >> It's more of a spreadsheet that's

[33:05] actively

[33:06] >> until it's finished.

[33:08] >> Well, so when the strate feel like when

[33:10] the strategic plan is like more

[33:11] finalized, you want it to be like not

[33:13] editable.

[33:16] » Isn't that what we do is we come up with

[33:18] a completed document or is it always

[33:21] editable?

[33:24] I think we have to have maybe a little

[33:26] of both because we have to be able to

[33:27] put we have to put all our public

[33:30] documents like this on a on our website

[33:33] I believe like our general plan has to

[33:35] be um and that could maybe be an

[33:38] overview without necessarily all the

[33:41] specifics but leave the specifics of hey

[33:44] we cross that off that's done you know

[33:47] as the living document but have

[33:49] something that is more

[33:51] >> static and on on the website that just

[33:53] says we have one

[33:55] and it's covering these areas.

[33:57] >> Okay. Well, then that makes this that

[34:00] makes the spreadsheet obsolete, which is

[34:01] fine.

[34:02] >> No, the spreadsheet's still here because

[34:04] we still want the staff.

[34:06] >> Well, then who's in charge of updating

[34:08] the static version?

[34:10] >> I would say the mayor and the staff

[34:13] >> because it would have to just have like

[34:14] a last updated and then they just have

[34:16] to regularly

[34:18] >> they have staff meeting what every week.

[34:20] weak

[34:21] >> update the version that's online.

[34:24] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[34:24] >> Well, this version wouldn't be online

[34:26] and that's what I'm saying. There would

[34:27] just online would be this would be an

[34:29] internal document just for the staff and

[34:31] the mayor and the council and then there

[34:34] would be a written document that would

[34:36] be online saying there's a strategic

[34:38] plan. These are the things that are

[34:39] happening and it's just like the general

[34:41] plan just a page or two uh put on there

[34:44] that accompanies and we're these are the

[34:46] things we're working on. Then if you

[34:48] want to know more then you can contact

[34:50] the mayor or the staff.

[34:52] >> So on the static version does that

[34:54] include action steps or KPIs or is that

[34:57] just like here's the topic and here's

[34:59] who's responsible for

[35:00] >> or just here's the topic not even who's

[35:02] responsible because staff changes over

[35:04] time. Just here's a strategic plan that

[35:07] the council

[35:08] >> put like Ted's title though that whoever

[35:11] is in that role is responsible for

[35:13] transportation.

[35:14] >> Yeah. Just the titles. Daniel, does that

[35:17] feel like that makes sense to to have a

[35:20] static version like that? Does that

[35:22] >> Yeah, I think we could have a we don't

[35:26] have to run it through Inesign, but we

[35:28] could make the Excel file look nice. So,

[35:31] we could put it as a PDF, right? And

[35:33] that could be the adopted version that

[35:35] goes on the website and then because it

[35:37] is in Excel, whoever with staff wants

[35:41] to, you know, hold on to it, they can

[35:44] adjust as time goes. But you don't need

[35:45] to go and like amend your strategic plan

[35:48] each time you cross something off or

[35:50] whatever. You could just

[35:52] >> Well, Daniel, I'm even thinking even

[35:54] simpler than that. I think this version

[35:57] here is an internal document only, but

[36:00] the static one would be like a one or

[36:03] two pager that just gives a summary of

[36:06] what the strategic plan is going to

[36:08] cover and that it has um action steps

[36:11] and a timeline. and if you want more

[36:14] information

[36:16] and then you put the city phone number

[36:17] or website I mean or email and just let

[36:20] it be like that. So it showcases that

[36:22] there is one but it doesn't necessarily

[36:25] have to go into the weeds.

[36:28] >> Yeah, I think either one works. If

[36:30] that's the direction we go, then that

[36:31] makes the public facing document really

[36:33] simple.

[36:34] >> Yeah, that's what I think I I think

[36:36] people don't want to really necessarily

[36:38] dive in deep to all of this, but they

[36:41] want to know we're doing something.

[36:42] Well, or maybe something we offer to the

[36:45] council is do you make this where you

[36:49] could do view only to the public

[36:53] if they want it to have more of the

[36:55] detail that's public facing.

[36:58] But if they would prefer just a more

[37:00] simplified version like Carrie's

[37:01] proposing, then yeah, that's a lot

[37:04] simpler.

[37:04] >> How other cities do it? How do they

[37:06] >> they just have their website? they just

[37:07] have a basic page because they let the

[37:09] staff do it because you don't want to

[37:10] get into the legalities if there's a

[37:12] problem or if there's somebody who

[37:15] >> I feel like less is more because I mean

[37:18] if they have access to the information

[37:20] if they can call someone and get a copy

[37:21] of it if they want the full amount but

[37:23] or the full packet but I think putting

[37:25] out so much information might just raise

[37:27] so many questions.

[37:29] >> Yeah.

[37:29] >> And it would overwhelm the staff

[37:31] >> where an overview I think would be ideal

[37:33] if that's how I mean especially if

[37:35] that's how other people do it too. other

[37:36] cities do it.

[37:40] » Strategic plans are all over the board.

[37:42] Um, we talked about that with our first

[37:44] uh meeting about strategic plans a few

[37:47] months ago and I I think I shared some

[37:49] examples. General plans are regulated by

[37:52] the state. They have to include certain

[37:53] things. They have to include certain

[37:55] topics. Strategic plans are optional,

[37:57] right? And so some cities do them, some

[38:00] cities don't. Some cities have it

[38:02] strictly as

[38:05] um well, for example, PAC PAC's

[38:07] strategic plan is the third tier of

[38:10] goals that Woodland Hills has in its own

[38:13] general plan and that's it. That that's

[38:16] all it is. Um because you'll recall in

[38:19] our own general plan, the Woodland Hills

[38:21] general plan, we have we have goals, we

[38:23] have um object objectives, and we have

[38:27] action items, right? It doesn't say who

[38:29] does it or when, but you know there's the three tiers. And for some

[38:33] people or for some county cities or

[38:35] counties that that is their strategic

[38:37] plan and others go more specific like

[38:40] this and others can talk about you know

[38:42] other issues uh whatever the you know if

[38:45] you're city of Moab for example you're

[38:48] going to be talking about how to do

[38:49] tourism mitigation stuff and their

[38:51] strategic plan will go into certain

[38:52] strategies or it might go into more

[38:54] about how police department works or

[38:56] something if that's the big issue. So

[38:58] strategic plan is much more loosey-

[39:01] goosey and it can be whatever you guys

[39:02] want it to be. I don't think there's a

[39:04] right answer or a wrong answer here.

[39:07] >> Okay. So this

[39:08] >> working spreadsheet is internal for the

[39:11] city employees or committees that are

[39:14] assigned to the or are the responsible

[39:17] parties.

[39:18] >> And then what we're calling then now a

[39:21] strategic plan overview. So we have a

[39:23] paragraph at the top that gives an

[39:25] overview and then we have a list of all

[39:28] the different chapter topics with

[39:30] another you know or a table with the

[39:32] chapter topics and then who's the point

[39:35] of contact

[39:37] essentially for that topic and then

[39:40] their contact info. Is that the

[39:42] thinking?

[39:47] Did I explain that?

[39:50] >> So paragraph three column table with

[39:54] land use chapter responsible party

[39:57] contact info that's it

[40:00] >> in the public facing version

[40:02] >> yeah so column A column C and then

[40:05] another column with a email

[40:11] » do we need to do let's see so if we're

[40:15] not going to share

[40:17] the details publicly should the

[40:19] strategic plan that's public facing just

[40:23] outline

[40:24] what it is and that it exists.

[40:26] >> Yeah, just a I think just a general

[40:28] paragraph. I don't think we need all the

[40:30] other because it's already things that

[40:32] need to be on there for contact

[40:34] information are already on there

[40:36] >> on the general plan or on where

[40:38] >> on the website

[40:39] >> on the city website.

[40:41] >> Like if some the people who call me or

[40:43] email me, they get it all off the

[40:44] website.

[40:45] >> Okay. So then we're just doing a

[40:46] paragraph.

[40:47] >> Yeah. paragraph or two, maybe even just enough to say here, this is

[40:52] accompanying these are the short-term

[40:54] goals accompanying the general plan

[40:55] because the general plan has to be on

[40:57] the website.

[40:57] >> We're not putting goals,

[40:59] >> huh?

[40:59] >> But we're not putting short-term goals

[41:00] because they're living here,

[41:02] >> right? But we're just saying the

[41:03] strategic plan

[41:04] >> has short-term goals.

[41:05] and it accompanies

[41:07] the general plan and it's for the the

[41:10] council and the and the employees to

[41:13] fulfill those goals. Okay, Daniel, does

[41:14] that feel clear then of what that

[41:16] overview one pager is going to look

[41:17] like?

[41:18] >> Yeah. Should I put that in the general

[41:20] plan right after the executive summary?

[41:24] >> Sure, we can offer it and they can

[41:27] decide if they want it in there or not.

[41:41] So basically a resident would pick up

[41:44] the general plan. The executive summary

[41:47] would explain what's in the general

[41:49] plan. Right after that we say by the way

[41:51] the city has a strategic plan which

[41:54] outlines the more specific

[41:56] responsibilities of various staff

[41:58] members and boards, committees,

[42:00] volunteers. Um directs them how to

[42:02] achieve the things in the general plan.

[42:05] If you would like to be more involved or

[42:06] know more about what those strategies

[42:09] are, contact the city and then here's

[42:11] the rest of the general plan.

[42:13] >> Yep. Join a committee.

[42:15] >> Yeah, join join a committee today.

[42:17] Please call. Yeah.

[42:19] >> Yeah. Exact. I think that would be

[42:21] fabulous.

[42:22] >> Okay.

[42:25] Then I feel clearer there on that.

[42:27] And then yeah, I I'm happy to work with

[42:30] you on just making this pretty the Excel

[42:32] spreadsheet and searchable and usable

[42:34] for the city. And that

[42:37] um thank you for all the effort so far

[42:40] though. I'm really happy to see these

[42:43] action steps. I feel like they make

[42:44] sense. They're measurable.

[42:47] >> Yes. Well, these are things that they

[42:49] talk about because every they have staff

[42:52] meeting once a week. We have council

[42:53] meeting twice a month and the staff give

[42:56] us a report and these will help direct

[42:58] them on what their reports will have so

[43:01] they'll be able to say you know this is

[43:03] what we're doing and it ties it all

[43:06] together.

[43:06] >> Yeah, this is great. Um, I would

[43:09] >> say Yeah, sorry.

[43:12] >> I was just gonna say only one other

[43:13] column I would add is just either a

[43:16] progress and or like a completion

[43:21] um with like a timestamp.

[43:23] >> Oh, yeah.

[43:24] >> Um,

[43:25] >> check mark box.

[43:26] >> Yeah, some sort of I don't know if we

[43:28] want to. Anyway, we can maybe talk about

[43:31] that. But,

[43:34] >> okay, since this is going to stay

[43:35] internal, do we want to have it more

[43:39] detailed? Do we want to have more

[43:42] potential more action items per land use

[43:46] or per um element general plan chapter

[43:50] or is three or so?

[43:53] >> I think that's up to whoever's. If Ted

[43:56] wants to add more, I would say he can.

[43:59] I don't know if I feel like I need to

[44:02] make that call.

[44:02] >> Yeah. I don't want to give Ted more

[44:04] work, but do we feel like this is

[44:06] sufficient for land use and housing? Is

[44:09] this

[44:10] >> Yeah, because land use and housing I

[44:12] mean planning commission meets every

[44:14] single month and they're continually

[44:16] working on updating that kind of thing.

[44:18] So it might be beneficial that you know

[44:22] when you talk to Wayne um to ask ask him

[44:25] what he feels the capabilities are

[44:28] because this is supposed to be for the

[44:29] next 3 to 5 years um of goals and you

[44:33] don't want them to run out of goals.

[44:37] So but as a living document they could

[44:39] always add more. Say check that one that

[44:42] says complete add a new.

[44:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. Or if any of them feel too

[44:46] broad, like if one of them feels like

[44:48] it's a constant ongoing thing,

[44:51] >> divide it up,

[44:52] >> then you'd want to define it a little

[44:54] more clearly. But that's again something

[44:55] that whoever the responsible party is,

[44:57] that's what they need to

[45:00] >> edit.

[45:02] >> So that's the benefit here of having a

[45:05] living document as opposed to a static

[45:06] document. We don't have to come up with

[45:08] all the goals now. But then if we're

[45:10] doing this as a living document where

[45:12] we're going to say, "Hey, periodically

[45:14] or, you know, maybe January of each

[45:15] year, we're going to review this and

[45:18] check things off and add things to it."

[45:20] We also probably want to put someone

[45:22] who's responsible and make to make sure

[45:23] that happens, right? So, I don't know if

[45:26] that's like a Jod or Lauren Lori to say,

[45:30] "Hey, each year I'm going to make sure,

[45:32] hey, add your stuff on there." Right?

[45:36] >> You I don't know.

[45:37] Do we propose that to the council of who

[45:40] then owns the responsibility of this?

[45:44] >> Yeah, maybe that's the mayor. But yeah,

[45:45] I I think so.

[45:47] >> We can write that down then. Who's

[45:48] responsible? Just so that it's in our

[45:50] notes.

[45:50] >> Yeah.

[45:51] >> Who's responsible for the document um um

[45:55] being updated? If it's Lori or Jod, it'd

[45:58] probably be Lori or Jod. I mean,

[46:00] realistically,

[46:04] » and maybe the two of them can only do it

[46:06] over lunch, so

[46:10] there we go.

[46:20] I like to that this being in Excel, if

[46:23] something does get changed, you can look

[46:26] at the history. Um, you can look at the

[46:29] history by sheet or by cell. So, you can

[46:32] see if somebody's made changes that

[46:34] maybe not everybody agreed on or that

[46:37] you weren't aware of or that you wanted

[46:39] to follow up on again progress or things

[46:41] like that, you could see changes live.

[46:45] >> Yeah.

[46:45] >> Or a record of the changes.

[46:53] Okay. Well, any other questions

[46:57] about this or any other comments on the

[47:00] way it looks or feels or usability of

[47:03] it? I'm excited actually. You know, I

[47:07] thought I was thinking of this earlier

[47:08] today when we first had the idea of

[47:10] putting in this grant to get this money

[47:13] and it's now been what, seven years, six

[47:16] years ago. It's almost like it was a

[47:18] whole another life of the city because

[47:20] it was before the fires. it was before a

[47:22] lot of things. Um, and I'm the only one

[47:25] currently on the council that was there

[47:27] at the time. And so just as it's

[47:30] progressed, right? And I'm just so

[47:32] excited to see this come to be. I can't

[47:35] tell you how much I appreciate all the

[47:37] work you guys have done because it's

[47:40] like having a little baby that you just

[47:42] say, "Here, would you guys take care of

[47:43] it?" And it's look, it's this really

[47:46] amazing plan and now we're going to have

[47:48] action steps and timeline. In my

[47:50] lifetime, I'm going to see some of this

[47:51] accomplished.

[47:54] >> I like it. Okay. Anybody else before me?

[47:57] >> What when's our next meeting? Did we

[47:59] decide that?

[47:59] >> Oh, good good question, Daniel. Um,

[48:07] how much I mean, I don't think we need a

[48:10] whole a whole ton of time, right, in

[48:12] between? You got to wait. We got to wait

[48:14] to hear back from the parks and trails.

[48:18] Mhm.

[48:18] >> Um, this is still kind of subject to any

[48:22] sort of goals that changed from the

[48:24] general plan. So, this is us providing

[48:26] our best first draft based on those

[48:30] potential changes. Is it is it do we

[48:34] feel comfortable

[48:36] finalizing this in a few weeks

[48:40] so that maybe we come up with a first

[48:43] draft final to pro provide to the

[48:45] council in May along with the general

[48:48] plan that will be provided in May.

[48:49] Should we wait till the general plan is

[48:52] or the no sorry that the planning

[48:54] commission is doing the public meeting

[48:57] in May not bringing it to the council in

[48:59] May.

[49:00] >> Yeah. What is the timeline here? So,

[49:02] planning commission is doing another um

[49:04] >> they have their public hearing town hall

[49:06] kind of thing.

[49:07] >> Yeah, it's in May.

[49:09] >> I just don't know what's I don't want to

[49:11] get ahead of anybody. So, but I also

[49:13] want to be responsive and get this

[49:15] forward. So,

[49:18] >> any comments on timeline?

[49:21] >> I don't think there's anything wrong

[49:22] with meeting again in a month and I

[49:25] should have everything in here. Kirsten

[49:27] and I can get with you beforehand. We

[49:29] can make this look nice. We can do all

[49:31] the things we talked about today and

[49:34] potentially be at a draft that we're

[49:38] ready to say, "Okay, barring major

[49:41] changes from planning commission, here's

[49:44] what we're ready to send over to council

[49:45] whenever the general plan goes to

[49:47] council." Right.

[49:49] >> Okay. I like that.

[49:50] >> I have it on my calendar that we're

[49:52] meeting the 27th of April, that Monday.

[49:56] >> Well, typically we've been doing the

[49:57] last Monday of the month. That is

[50:00] >> It' be the day before council meeting,

[50:02] so we to have an update to give.

[50:04] >> That'll be okay.

[50:05] >> It'll work.

[50:06] >> Yeah, it's my son's birthday, but we'll

[50:08] just go out after. We just have to end

[50:10] by 6. So, we'll do it. So, that'll be

[50:13] fine. We can So, we'll meet April 27th,

[50:18] 5:00 p.m. at the city. So, that gives

[50:20] Daniel, you and I a few weeks. It won't

[50:22] take that though to to get this pretty.

[50:25] But again, that gives you time though to

[50:27] get any other feedback from other

[50:29] committees or any other city employees

[50:32] that are you're waiting to hear back

[50:34] from. And

[50:36] >> probably the mayor, too. We might want

[50:38] to get him down on some of what his

[50:41] thoughts are.

[50:42] >> And you'll work on that strategic plan

[50:44] overview. Ideally, can that be

[50:47] circulated with our committee sooner so

[50:49] there could be any feedback

[50:51] >> so that we can then just approve it on

[50:54] the April meeting?

[50:56] >> Yeah,

[50:57] >> good idea. And ideally then maybe we

[51:01] have some completed things to finalize

[51:04] and approve in the April meeting so that

[51:07] then we can have them ready for council

[51:09] u potentially May or if we have to hold

[51:11] them to then accompany the general plan

[51:13] whenever that gets presented to the

[51:15] council then later but at least on our

[51:17] end we provided a finalized draft.

[51:21] Yeah. And we depending on how the bud

[51:24] how some things go, our schedules going

[51:26] to be our meeting schedules are going to

[51:28] be really full in May because we have to

[51:30] do the whole budget.

[51:32] >> And so, um,

[51:35] we've done a lot of the pre-work, but

[51:38] >> yeah,

[51:38] >> by law, we have to have things done in a

[51:40] certain order. So, that's our priority.

[51:42] So, some things may get bumped off,

[51:45] >> okay,

[51:45] >> of our discussion. Just to let you know.

[51:47] >> Yeah. I just want us to be prepared, but

[51:49] we'll be flexible depending on the best

[51:50] timing for

[51:52] >> Yeah. the when the the status of the

[51:55] general plan and what the city council

[51:57] wants. So, we'll be flexible, but we'll

[51:58] be prepared is what I'm hoping for.

[52:02] Okay. All right. Well, if there's no

[52:04] other comments,

[52:04] >> I make a motion that we adjourn.

[52:07] >> It is 54.

[52:10] Second that.

[52:12] >> Uh, all in favor?

[52:13] >> I I

[52:14] >> Oh, and you know what? I'm sorry.

[52:17] This is so terrible. Um, the meeting

[52:20] minutes you approved, you seconded. All

[52:24] in favor of approving our January minute

[52:26] minutes? I

[52:27] >> I

[52:29] >> Okay, so Sean, I will leave you off.

[52:32] We pass. Okay. Uh,

[52:37] okay. Sorry. Uh, meetings adjourned.

[52:39] 554. Thank you. I will type those.

[52:42] >> Thank you.

[52:44] >> I think some

[52:47] need just to clarify so many meetings I

[52:50] take a million notes because I cannot

[52:52] remember cannot no matter what I can

[52:55] talk to this

[52:57] >> I do that sometimes too

[53:02] we have to

[53:03] all of this is

[53:05] >> I know I do like the new system though

[53:08] >> there is

[53:12] do we have to do like the whole do I

[53:15] just click end

[53:24] Yeah,

[53:29] good.

[53:30] So down

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