[2:20] My Honda works.

[2:26] » You okay? Brian, can you hear us?

[2:28] >> Thanks. Byebye.

[2:30] >> Yes, sir.

[2:31] >> Perfect. You should have received an

[2:33] email just barely from me.

[2:36] >> Um,

[2:37] >> got it.

[2:38] >> Wonderful. Okay, I'd like to welcome

[2:40] everybody to uh the city council work

[2:42] session on May 12th, 2026.

[2:46] Um, thank you for those online. Uh,

[2:50] thank you for those here in attendance.

[2:52] Um, this is going to be, I think, a

[2:56] pretty important meeting, but hopefully

[2:58] we'll be able to clip along and also be

[3:00] effective. We're going to start with the

[3:03] general plan review. Um, we're going to

[3:05] talk about this chapters 7 through 10 as

[3:09] well as the executive summary of the

[3:12] Woodland Hills general plan. So, let me

[3:16] share my screen here.

[3:19] And you guys all should have received

[3:21] this

[3:23] a couple weeks ago, I think, right?

[3:25] >> Yeah.

[3:27] >> Wow. Look at us go. We usually give it

[3:30] to you like 10 seconds before.

[3:34] and I received uh all of Steve's

[3:36] comments and notes. Um I have not yet

[3:39] had time because I've been working head

[3:41] deep in the budget.

[3:43] Um

[3:45] >> so I'll still be implementing his but

[3:47] I'd like us to just jump through here.

[3:50] Um Brian, you can see my screen.

[3:54] >> Yes.

[3:55] >> Perfect. Okay, let's just jump through

[3:57] and hit all these red spots. And if

[3:59] there's any other comments while we go

[4:01] through them, please raise them as we go

[4:03] through.

[4:05] >> I mean really there wasn't much.

[4:08] >> Okay, so here on this first one, we're

[4:11] shifting limited to controlled and

[4:14] single family medium low density to

[4:17] medium single family medium or density

[4:20] development.

[4:21] >> Mhm.

[4:22] >> Does that uh

[4:24] anybody have any issues there?

[4:26] >> No. Okay.

[4:31] here

[4:34] we are going and adding

[4:37] um economic resilience and the

[4:39] contribute and to contribute to the

[4:41] local economy that surrounds the city.

[4:47] » Any issues there?

[4:49] >> When we say surrounds the city, we're

[4:50] talking about Salem

[4:51] >> Salem and stuff. Is that the idea?

[4:53] >> Okay. Not Spanish.

[4:55] >> Correct.

[4:57] >> Okay. I I do have a couple I got

[5:00] actually I've got notes all over this

[5:02] thing um just to be honest.

[5:05] >> Um

[5:07] with with that one that surrounds the

[5:09] city that is duplicative um you know

[5:13] you're you're just when you say local

[5:15] economy that means it's local it

[5:18] surrounds the city that is that is you

[5:20] know you don't need to say that. I think

[5:22] that's that's improper English. You're duplicating what you just said.

[5:28] >> Yeah. Does anybody

[5:30] >> Well, I agree because the local economy

[5:32] can be wherever

[5:36] >> and Janet.

[5:38] >> Yeah. It it sounds a little redundant. I

[5:40] mean, I think we could take it off and

[5:41] it still has the same

[5:42] >> same. Yeah. Same effect.

[5:44] >> Okay.

[5:46] Um before that

[5:48] um in the the paragraph at the top it

[5:54] says retail centers or office parts is

[5:57] neither desired nor practice. I don't

[6:00] know that we can say that it's not

[6:02] desired. I there are some people in the

[6:03] city that would desire retail

[6:07] but it is not practical. Um I I I

[6:11] disagree that it's neither desired nor.

[6:13] I think that should be struck.

[6:17] >> I think that that makes sense because

[6:19] that's put I guess that's subjective is

[6:22] what you're saying. It just depends on

[6:23] who you're talking to. So if you keep it

[6:25] so it's it's neutral.

[6:29] >> It's not desired by 99% of people. But

[6:31] yeah, I get it.

[6:35] >> There are plenty of people that want

[6:36] more

[6:38] >> tax base, right? And and that's the only

[6:41] opportunity for tax base. So,

[6:45] >> what about something more like that?

[6:47] >> Probably not.

[6:48] practical.

[6:50] >> Yes. And I I do agree that it's not

[6:53] practical. We just don't have the

[6:55] traffic for retail.

[6:58] >> I think we've got quite the changing

[7:00] demographic,

[7:02] >> right, with Vidian, with Three Bridges,

[7:05] with everything else that's coming in.

[7:07] >> Harmon

[7:08] >> with We've got two Harmans coming.

[7:10] >> Now, there's some Harman coming in. you

[7:12] know, Spanish and Salem. Maybe we can

[7:15] still get that Harmon if they're trying

[7:16] to do the trifecta.

[7:20] » Okay. Anything else there, Brian?

[7:23] >> Um I have more on that page if you're

[7:26] okay.

[7:27] >> Let's hear it.

[7:28] >> So, down in the um

[7:33] it says Utah State Code continues to

[7:35] update regulations involving licensing

[7:37] and permitting woodland. Then that's one sentence. So, Woodland Hills

[7:42] follows these updates and intends its

[7:44] code and amends its code as needed. I

[7:47] think that could be combined into one

[7:50] simple sentence. It doesn't read very

[7:53] well.

[7:57] » State code continues update regulations

[7:59] involving licensing and permitting.

[8:01] >> Yeah.

[8:02] >> And Woodland Hills policies, updates,

[8:04] and amend their codes. Okay.

[8:08] Um then

[8:11] the next paragraph um which it talks

[8:15] about celebrating local entrepreneurship

[8:18] by publishing list of homebased

[8:20] business. Is this something we're going

[8:21] to do? This is this is this is saying

[8:25] we're going to do something

[8:30] » publishing.

[8:31] >> Currently we actually do the opposite of

[8:33] that.

[8:34] We don't intentionally publish anything.

[8:37] We've gone extremely restrictive because

[8:40] we don't want to be exclusionary. Thus,

[8:42] we've excluded everybody. I guess it

[8:44] could be an optin if if those who have

[8:47] owned businesses want people to know

[8:48] they have them

[8:50] >> and and I think it's something that we

[8:52] could look at. But what this is saying

[8:53] is that that we're we do this and we

[8:56] don't

[9:02] » I mean it's public record who has a

[9:04] permit, right?

[9:05] >> I I don't think it means that we're

[9:07] doing it.

[9:08] >> Yeah, I think it that's how I read it

[9:11] completely. the city can promote local

[9:13] services. Not that it is from doing

[9:16] that.

[9:18] >> Well, it says we actually recognize the

[9:21] value of celebrating

[9:23] >> by voluntarily publishing

[9:28] » publish and nor would we because

[9:35] » let's take that sentence out.

[9:36] >> Where do we take Yeah. Where do we draw

[9:37] the line in what we are going to publish

[9:39] and not publish? And then we're

[9:41] >> is the business permit public record

[9:44] >> that people could just they could just

[9:46] look it up and see.

[9:48] >> I think you go like this.

[9:51] >> Do our home businesses want to be

[9:53] recognized?

[9:55] >> Go back and do what you just did.

[9:57] >> I have a massage clinic. Do I want it

[9:59] recognized?

[10:00] >> I don't know. It depends on who's giving

[10:02] the massages

[10:02] >> and what kind it is. I mean I would

[10:06] >> well and the illegal Airbnbs. Are we

[10:08] going to promote the illegal Airbnbs?

[10:11] >> So additionally

[10:14] >> the value of celebrating local

[10:16] entrepreneurship the city can promote

[10:18] local services or the city may

[10:22] >> yeah may

[10:23] >> may

[10:24] >> um promote local services and help

[10:26] neighbors support one another.

[10:28] >> Yeah. Um, this effort not only

[10:30] encourages commerce but also strengthens

[10:33] the community's social fabric.

[10:35] >> Like that.

[10:39] » Look at Brian. He's like a book editor.

[10:42] >> I I've got a ton here, guys. I'm sorry.

[10:45] I This thing read awful to me. A lot of

[10:48] it.

[10:48] >> Hell at night. He has time.

[10:51] >> Oh, no. This was This was all in the

[10:53] last couple of hours because I'm trying

[10:55] to rush through it because I've been too

[10:57] busy.

[10:59] Keep going.

[11:00] >> Keep going.

[11:01] >> All right. The next section it says,

[11:03] "Community events such as Woodland Hills

[11:06] Days in Maple Fest play a unique and

[11:09] important role in the city's economic

[11:11] development." Really?

[11:16] Come on, folks.

[11:19] Well, uh I'm pretty sure the word there

[11:23] is we do sell booth opportunities. No,

[11:27] we don't.

[11:27] >> Yes. But it's not an important role in

[11:30] any way, shape, or form.

[11:33] >> Play a unique and important role in the

[11:36] city's

[11:37] >> culture. Yeah. City's culture.

[11:39] >> It's it's a unique but it's important to

[11:43] the city's economic development. So,

[11:45] yes, I I love that page. Thank you.

[11:47] >> Culture.

[11:49] >> I don't know how to word it, but I know

[11:50] it's not working.

[11:52] >> How about that?

[11:53] >> Yeah. City's culture.

[11:58] Next.

[12:00] >> Uh, if you go down a couple sentences,

[12:02] traditional commercial and retail, local

[12:05] events that generate, get rid of that

[12:10] >> that generate

[12:13] >> local events generate value by drawing

[12:16] visitors and creating opportunities. Not

[12:18] local events that generate value. I

[12:20] that's how I read it. So,

[12:23] >> saying take the that out.

[12:25] Did you put the that in?

[12:27] >> Uhuh.

[12:28] >> Oh, okay.

[12:30] >> We don't want to offend you if these are

[12:31] your edits and he's

[12:32] >> I did not edit anything. I am a

[12:35] >> I am a graphic designer only in some

[12:38] regards.

[12:41] This is a planning commission document,

[12:43] a community development document and a

[12:45] city

[12:46] >> generate value by drawing visitors and

[12:48] create opportunities. Okay. So, you will

[12:49] continue to promote. Keep going.

[12:51] >> Okay. Okay, the next one I have is uh

[12:54] the next paragraph where where where we

[12:56] deleted while not an official city

[12:59] sponsored event and left an official

[13:01] city sponsored event. You don't have to

[13:03] say it because you're not saying it for

[13:06] the nail states. So Maple Fest

[13:08] highlights the city's natural

[13:10] environment.

[13:11] >> Yeah, because we already said it over

[13:13] here. That's community events and so

[13:16] yeah, I don't think you have to put a

[13:17] official city sponsored.

[13:20] I don't know how I didn't pick up on

[13:22] some of this stuff. I've read it so many

[13:23] times. But

[13:25] >> you're too you're too too close to it.

[13:28] >> Yeah,

[13:30] >> you really are.

[13:32] >> Okay.

[13:33] >> All right. Uh under public opinion. U

[13:38] >> public opinion.

[13:39] >> Yeah. The the next big section um

[13:42] instead of residents, can we just say

[13:45] respondents? because it still leans

[13:47] toward in my mind still leans towards

[13:50] all the residents when it's just it's

[13:53] the the poll upon respondents.

[13:58] >> Does anybody have any issue there?

[13:59] >> No.

[14:02] >> Um next potential I would delete new

[14:05] growth.

[14:07] So it just to bring commercial

[14:09] development into the area.

[14:14] I think though we were looking at the

[14:17] new growth area because the rest of it

[14:19] is just zoned residential. We don't have

[14:21] any space.

[14:22] >> It's it's

[14:24] not I mean it's it's already it's

[14:26] already there. It's not it's not area

[14:29] that we have got new plans for. That's

[14:31] just my opinion. We can keep it in

[14:33] there. That's just my

[14:34] >> keeping new growth in because it's along

[14:36] the

[14:37] >> near 11 to 100.

[14:38] >> Yeah. But it's still those are the

[14:40] people in people's mind. It's

[14:43] >> in my mind it's it's Woodland Hills.

[14:46] It's not

[14:47] >> we're bringing something new into

[14:49] Woodland Hills. It is the Woodland Hills

[14:51] still part of it.

[14:53] >> Yeah. But it's still considered new

[14:54] growth. It's not the people who've been

[14:56] here for 50 years.

[14:58] >> That would be a

[15:01] >> Yeah.

[15:03] >> Ted says that's a common way to do it is

[15:06] new growth.

[15:07] >> I'm fine. I'm fine. Again, I'm just I'm

[15:09] telling you my thoughts on it. Oh,

[15:11] you're good.

[15:13] >> Uh, next one is

[15:17] going down. Unless you got anything you

[15:20] got, you got yours to fill in there. You

[15:22] got some changes.

[15:24] >> We do your changes along the same as his

[15:26] changes.

[15:26] >> Yeah, we can go with that,

[15:29] >> right? But there was that one that had

[15:32] developers developments.

[15:34] >> I'm going to just make the red changes

[15:37] unless you guys disagree with them and

[15:39] we discuss them. Okay.

[15:40] >> Yeah.

[15:42] >> Okay.

[15:42] >> But I wanted to make sure you guys saw

[15:46] the community development groups.

[15:48] >> Yes.

[15:49] >> And then the planning commission's

[15:51] edits. That's what the red is saying.

[15:53] So, if you're okay, we'll we'll adopt

[15:56] the planning commission's edits unless

[15:58] you guys want the original text.

[16:02] >> I don't think I had any issue with those

[16:05] planning commission edits.

[16:06] >> Yeah. Because they're very they're very

[16:08] minor. Anything

[16:12] here, Brian?

[16:13] >> Uh, yes. The

[16:17] first full paragraph, it says Woodland

[16:19] Hill received relatively small amount of

[16:22] tax revenue. It should read of sales tax

[16:25] revenue

[16:27] because that's what we're talking about

[16:29] specifically.

[16:32] >> I'd agree. Okay.

[16:35] >> Nothing else on that page.

[16:46] I'll edit that later.

[16:50] Anything here? Anybody?

[16:52] >> All the changes to the other parts.

[16:57] >> Number two is like wiped out.

[16:59] >> What?

[17:00] >> Yep. So, this will turn into two here

[17:02] and we'll delete it.

[17:04] >> Anything here?

[17:08] rentals and the parade entry. Okay.

[17:13] >> Yeah, it does show that our revenue

[17:15] streams are very small. If it's the $10

[17:17] booth rental,

[17:19] >> it's big and buddy,

[17:22] >> mayor.

[17:22] >> Yes.

[17:23] >> Before you go on to aid

[17:25] >> Yeah.

[17:25] >> Um, there was an an insert that I

[17:30] apparently didn't provide to you.

[17:33] >> Okay. I didn't want to interrupt Brian

[17:36] there. Um, it's on page

[17:40] 75

[17:43] with a picture of the Maple Fest. It's

[17:48] under supporting local festivals and

[17:51] events as economic and social drivers.

[17:56] The insert would be between the first

[17:58] and the second paragraph.

[18:00] >> Okay?

[18:01] >> And it would read this way.

[18:03] The city is a home for a growing number

[18:06] of artists and sculptors, some of which

[18:09] have galleries outside the city. Once or

[18:12] twice a year, those who wish to

[18:14] participate host open houses to showcase

[18:18] their talents and artistic products.

[18:21] This brings both local and non-local

[18:24] individuals into the city and further

[18:27] puts Woodland Hill City on the map.

[18:32] That was discussed by planning

[18:34] commission and suggested that be

[18:35] included

[18:39] » as another type of event

[18:42] to the city.

[18:44] >> Okay, that's my technical way of saying

[18:46] that.

[18:46] >> The only thing that I was thinking

[18:48] because Woodland Hills day and the Maple

[18:50] Fest also bring thing people in from

[18:52] outside of our city. So, do we need to

[18:54] say that with this as well? I mean, do

[18:57] we need to put that part in or just that

[19:00] this is a another event that is hosted

[19:02] in our city, but we're not we don't

[19:05] sponsor that, but it does people in our

[19:07] city go to it.

[19:09] >> I think it's part of Woodland Hills

[19:10] Days, isn't it?

[19:11] >> No, they do it different times.

[19:13] >> The art festival,

[19:15] >> it's separate, but they do it with

[19:17] Woodland Hills Days often times.

[19:19] Sometimes they ch they change it around

[19:21] because it's their private thing, but um

[19:23] >> well lately they've been doing it with

[19:24] the last few years, but it's not

[19:26] necessarily a part of it. We just

[19:29] >> we just help promote it and advertise

[19:31] for them.

[19:31] >> But what I'm saying is I don't think we

[19:33] need the language that says people in

[19:35] and out of the city. I think we just say

[19:37] like we did the other two. Just this is

[19:39] a cultural event in the city.

[19:52] I I don't know. I think that we're

[19:54] talking about bringing visitors in for

[19:56] the other one. Why wouldn't we

[19:59] say this is, you know, and this is not a

[20:01] city sponsored one,

[20:04] >> right? But what I'm saying is that we

[20:06] don't specifically say we're bringing in

[20:08] other people on the other two.

[20:11] So if we if we are putting it in we just

[20:14] say all of them people come in

[20:17] >> right but I'm just saying we don't need

[20:19] to again specifically say for this event

[20:22] that we bring people in because it's

[20:24] already

[20:26] there.

[20:31] We don't have to say it twice.

[20:38] » Once I get it all in,

[20:41] I can take a look at it.

[20:43] >> And then you'd have to change that with

[20:44] both events. You'd have to say all

[20:47] events.

[20:50] » Could you just say events

[20:51] >> or events? Yeah.

[20:53] >> Oh, help me here. on the right that

[20:56] sentence right above envisioning

[20:57] potential commercial commercial growth

[21:00] >> uh

[21:01] >> cross out both then we can capitalize

[21:03] events

[21:04] >> and they play whatever thing

[21:07] >> yeah there you go events serve as

[21:10] >> because there's you know then there

[21:12] could be more events or less events

[21:14] >> because who's saying that your

[21:17] Santa is not an event or

[21:21] maybe some of these fire expo

[21:23] >> well and the fire expo and the trick

[21:26] trunk or treat.

[21:27] >> Yeah.

[21:27] >> All the things.

[21:28] >> Yeah.

[21:29] >> Okay. Wayne, I'll get the rest of that

[21:31] from you.

[21:34] » Okay,

[21:36] we're still good here.

[21:38] >> Yeah.

[21:39] >> Okay, let's jump to chapter eight.

[21:43] >> Chapter eight,

[21:45] >> water preservation and natural

[21:46] environment.

[21:51] » Fine. We don't have anything on this

[21:53] first part, do you?

[21:55] >> No. No, I don't. I don't for quite a

[21:57] while. Um, I think the edits were good

[21:59] and and they did a good job with it for

[22:02] the most part.

[22:03] >> Does anybody have any thoughts?

[22:05] >> Chapter 8.

[22:06] >> The spot where it says, "Did you know go

[22:08] up again?" Mayor,

[22:12] >> so I'm reading this and maybe I'm

[22:14] reading it wrong. Um, but this talks

[22:17] about the Pacin Ranger Station. Um and while it is above Woodland Hills, it

[22:24] isn't just Woodland Hills. This reads

[22:26] down there in the bold, Woodland Hills

[22:28] residents tend to use more water in

[22:30] drought years and less water in rainy

[22:32] years. Um maybe it could say local

[22:35] residents or

[22:38] area residents because this is like

[22:40] calling out Woodland Hills residents

[22:43] and I don't think that's fair.

[22:48] Woodland Hills general plan.

[22:52] >> I I I get that, but I don't what it's

[22:54] saying is the graph is telling us that

[22:57] Woodland Hills people use more water in

[23:01] the drought years.

[23:02] >> I think you don't really need to say

[23:04] >> you need to state it. That's

[23:06] >> Woodland Hills.

[23:07] >> I would say that's true for every other

[23:09] state.

[23:09] >> I think it's true everywhere. But but

[23:12] the the data that they're pulling from

[23:14] doesn't justify Woodland Hills.

[23:18] I would just take

[23:19] >> the whole sentence.

[23:21] >> Remove Woodland Hills and just leave it

[23:22] as residents tend to use more water.

[23:25] >> That's more.

[23:26] >> Yeah. What if we just delete it, Brian?

[23:28] >> I'm fine with that. But actually, I

[23:31] think it's a good point to be honest

[23:33] with you that people actually use more

[23:36] water in drought years,

[23:39] >> which makes sense.

[23:40] >> So, put it in. Well, you don't even put

[23:42] residents. You Yeah, you could just put

[23:44] people because if you're you were saying

[23:46] it it applies to everyone, not just our

[23:48] city.

[23:49] >> Residents tend to use more water in

[23:50] drought years and less water in rainy

[23:52] years, which

[23:54] >> leaving residents just because then it

[23:56] makes it

[23:57] >> Yeah.

[23:59] >> Does it need to be

[24:00] >> take this personal this plan?

[24:02] >> I'm just wondering why why why are we having it in bold?

[24:06] >> Yeah, let's

[24:07] >> like why are we calling it out as like

[24:08] an anomaly? It's a pretty big

[24:10] conservation concept, but

[24:12] >> it is a big one.

[24:13] >> No, I I guess I get it. But what we're

[24:15] saying is that we're not giving

[24:17] commentary. We're telling you what the

[24:19] data says, right? And the data is when

[24:22] it's not raining, people have to use

[24:24] more water to keep their lawns green.

[24:26] When it does rain, they don't have to

[24:27] use as much water to keep their lawns

[24:29] green. Apply that to every city in

[24:32] America.

[24:33] >> And it's true.

[24:34] >> It's true.

[24:35] >> So, I just that's why I say I don't

[24:37] understand why we're trying to say look

[24:39] Because most people won't read this, but

[24:40] they might look at the graph and then

[24:42] see the bold and say, "Oh, yeah. I'm

[24:44] using too much."

[24:45] >> What if I do that? I don't if you can

[24:46] see.

[24:47] >> I don't know. I guess I I get I just

[24:49] >> That's not always true.

[24:52] >> When you get into drought years, there

[24:53] are some communities that go into

[24:55] conservation mode.

[24:56] >> Oh, yeah. Some of our

[24:57] >> Because of the lack of water, so they'll

[24:59] actually use less water.

[25:01] >> Uh where in rainy years, sometimes they

[25:03] don't turn off their sprinklers

[25:04] >> or they forget. So, they'll use a little

[25:06] more water. So,

[25:08] I think what they're trying to say here

[25:09] is that conservation is important.

[25:12] >> Yes.

[25:12] >> And we got to keep that in mind as we're

[25:14] looking at drought years. When you have

[25:16] dry years, you should be using more

[25:17] water is the point.

[25:18] >> Sure.

[25:19] >> You should actually be cutting back.

[25:20] >> Sure.

[25:21] >> And so I think it's a it's it's a valid

[25:23] point. Whether it's cold or not is

[25:25] >> can we

[25:25] >> is up to you. But

[25:26] >> can you just use conservation, you know,

[25:30] >> you're encouraging conservation, right?

[25:32] I think they're just using the data from

[25:33] the Snowtel to say the site, the

[25:35] Snowtale site's telling us that this is

[25:38] what happens.

[25:39] >> I think there's a little bit of the

[25:40] shock. People will read it and say,

[25:42] >> "Well, that makes sense." But there's

[25:44] also some

[25:46] >> Yeah. some shock value to it.

[25:48] >> Yeah,

[25:49] >> I'm sure.

[25:50] >> Well, yeah, because you're right. Other

[25:52] cities have already put their

[25:54] conservation in in you're there's no

[25:56] watering outside at all.

[25:57] >> Since it's bolded, you're now thinking

[25:59] about it more.

[26:02] We all move.

[26:04] >> Okay. Any anything else up here?

[26:07] >> Not on that one.

[26:08] >> Okay.

[26:12] Anything here?

[26:14] >> I I do have a couple here, of course.

[26:17] >> Okay. Uh on the right, the the the page

[26:20] on on the right, 85, it says weather

[26:24] models anticipate decreased annual

[26:26] precipitation.

[26:27] That's not that's not true. It's not

[26:30] fact. Matter of fact, um precipitation

[26:34] in northern Utah for most models are

[26:37] actually showing in the future that

[26:39] we'll have higher precipitation. We'll

[26:41] have lower snow and more rain, but

[26:44] northern Utah should see higher based on

[26:46] the modeling. So that is not fact.

[26:50] >> Well,

[26:50] >> I don't know about that. We just had a

[26:52] discussion

[26:54] >> in a big water meeting today

[26:57] and the form of the way precipitation

[27:00] will be coming is is they're saying it's

[27:02] changing more grain but doesn't

[27:04] necessarily mean we're may not get less

[27:08] um

[27:11] and to me I think they're they're

[27:13] quoting weather models there.

[27:14] >> Yeah. So, I would say

[27:15] >> there's tons of them

[27:18] >> because let's check and see what their

[27:20] source is for that before we change it.

[27:23] >> Yeah, because I've got weather models

[27:25] that are showing northern Utah will see

[27:27] a slight increase in total precipitation

[27:30] and southern a slight decrease.

[27:32] >> You talking just this year?

[27:34] >> No, this is future. This is this is 10

[27:37] year future. Uh, Brian, I think that I

[27:40] mean that data center up north is going

[27:42] to change that because it's going to

[27:44] generate a bunch of heat.

[27:45] >> Yeah, I think I think let's let's

[27:47] confirm

[27:48] >> it's going to change that

[27:49] >> because I think that it's a valid point.

[27:53] >> I I I can understand that, but I don't

[27:57] want to say that this is a fact when

[28:00] there are conflicting.

[28:02] >> Let's find out. They got their data

[28:04] first and then then that'll help us.

[28:06] Somebody online has their hand raised,

[28:08] but you can't see it. So,

[28:10] >> I don't

[28:11] >> I'm not taking comments right now.

[28:13] >> Okay.

[28:18] >> Um, so on the next paragraph, the

[28:22] decreased usage.

[28:24] Um, back up there. So, it says

[28:29] reductions in lot and household size

[28:32] including multif family de development.

[28:35] um as one of those points. I don't know

[28:37] that that's really on the table. Is that

[28:38] on the table for the rest of the the

[28:41] council multif family developments and and smaller lot sizes than we have?

[28:46] I don't I don't feel that's the case. I

[28:48] think that should not be there.

[28:50] >> I don't think that will decrease usage

[28:52] either. the more homes you sl

[28:55] >> it does because you're you get multif

[28:58] family homes and and the you know the the

[29:04] Ted you know the the numbers if you if

[29:06] you have multif family homes like the

[29:08] outside the the landscaping

[29:11] is the same as one as a single family

[29:13] home and you've got more populace in it.

[29:15] So it actually does reduce and smaller

[29:18] lot sizes produce more. So,

[29:22] >> I don't think that applies to Wooden

[29:23] Hills, though, because I don't think

[29:24] >> I don't either. I think it should be

[29:26] deleted.

[29:27] >> Our larger lots actually end up using

[29:30] less water because we're not watering

[29:32] them.

[29:33] >> We're not Well, we are not um you know,

[29:36] at the top half is are not uh

[29:39] landscaping and and planting grass on

[29:41] their whole one or two acres. Now, down

[29:44] below

[29:46] where

[29:46] >> it has one or two acres down below,

[29:48] >> but down below right now, that's zoned

[29:51] ar um agricultural right now, but it

[29:54] could change to something else depending

[29:56] on what somebody does. And if it is,

[30:00] because it's flat with no trees, people

[30:02] would tend to put in grass. So, if we

[30:05] did ever make those, if the landowner

[30:07] petitioned to have smaller lot sizes, um

[30:10] we wouldn't want you we wouldn't we

[30:12] couldn't say you can't plant grass

[30:14] because we wouldn't want weeds there

[30:15] either. So, it's a potential I I think

[30:19] that there is a potential for us someday

[30:21] to have smaller lot sizes or andor

[30:24] depending on zoning of the state if they

[30:27] ever require that. I just I mean I don't

[30:30] think that we'll do multifamily

[30:32] development, but I don't know. We might

[30:35] have a twin home or something. I don't

[30:37] know. Or or if they do a community.

[30:40] >> I I don't know about the rest of the the

[30:42] council, but I wouldn't vote for it. Um

[30:45] period.

[30:46] >> So, in my mind, neither one of those are

[30:49] on the table.

[30:50] >> Yeah. I I I would think about it a

[30:52] little bit because sometimes we I was in

[30:55] a three-hour water South Utah County

[30:58] water planning meeting today and uh

[31:02] something that continually came up is

[31:03] policy changes that sometimes we don't

[31:05] have effect on or we don't have control

[31:08] of,

[31:09] >> right?

[31:11] >> That was a big discussion. Hey, now

[31:12] people start adding second houses

[31:14] basically to their lots that's got to be

[31:16] serviced with water. that basically

[31:17] changes the whole game for water usage,

[31:20] right? So, what what I think we got to

[31:22] be careful of is remember this is a

[31:24] general plan that thinks about the

[31:26] future

[31:28] and I think we want to make sure that

[31:30] what we have in here is

[31:34] certainly guiding our direction but not

[31:36] closing the doors on things that could

[31:38] happen that we may not have control on

[31:40] because we want to keep those in mind

[31:41] and keep thinking about them. Now, um

[31:45] reductions in lot household size, you

[31:46] know, that's probably going to we'll have some control over that. Um

[31:50] what lot sizes we allow and multif

[31:53] family development for now that stuff,

[31:56] you know, that that we we have control

[31:58] over, but you don't know what could

[32:00] change. And and I think as as we go

[32:03] about the future, we just want to think

[32:04] about that. Keep that in mind that

[32:06] sometimes we don't always have control

[32:08] over what we're asked to do. And we want

[32:10] to make sure we're planning for that

[32:11] because like I said, that's what came up

[32:13] today in our meeting was

[32:15] >> now we're dealing with ADUs and that

[32:17] basically adds a whole another water use

[32:18] to our lots. And so what plans we've

[32:21] made historically just go out the window

[32:23] now and now we got to start over

[32:24] >> because even if you have one acre, you

[32:26] have your house, you have an ADU that's

[32:29] 1,000 square feet or whatever, that's

[32:31] almost like having two homes on half

[32:34] acre each. And so it's it's not although

[32:38] it's technically still one acre lot,

[32:40] it's two halfacre lots.

[32:43] >> I guess to Brian's point, and I agree

[32:44] with him and make sure I say this right,

[32:47] Brian, this is saying a decrease usage.

[32:50] So a strategy in decreasing the water

[32:53] usage. This is saying by us reducing lot

[32:58] size and household size,

[33:02] you know, including multifamily

[33:04] development and you're saying actually

[33:06] by adding by decreasing lot size, let's

[33:09] say by adding an ADU because we're

[33:11] saying now putting

[33:12] >> decreasing that's keeping the same lot

[33:14] size by by

[33:16] splitting it quote unquote. We're not

[33:18] going to actually subdivide it, right?

[33:20] There's still going to be the same plot.

[33:22] I'm just saying this doesn't say what I

[33:25] feel you just said.

[33:26] >> Well, so studies show that reducing your

[33:28] lot sizes and household sizes do

[33:30] decrease water usage

[33:31] >> because you're only going to have maybe

[33:32] two bedrooms or three bedrooms and not

[33:34] 10.

[33:36] >> That statement is is has has backing to

[33:39] it. I mean, it's not additional fill. It

[33:41] has backing hills.

[33:43] >> Um I don't know. Maybe maybe not.

[33:46] >> We're dropping it on

[33:49] >> again. is the general plan

[33:51] >> natural brush. So all we actually did

[33:54] was increase the water usage because now

[33:57] we have a house there that's going to be

[33:58] using water. Before that land didn't use

[34:01] water,

[34:02] >> right? Cuz we now if we put it on a lawn

[34:06] where a lawn used to be, yes, we are

[34:08] going to decrease farm

[34:10] >> or a farm which is what we've got all

[34:12] that

[34:12] >> 11200 is all farmland.

[34:14] >> Smaller lots and household smaller

[34:16] households will decrease usage because

[34:17] of watering egg land. So

[34:19] >> yeah. Okay.

[34:21] >> Whether you put it in there or not, it's

[34:22] up to you guys. I'm not I'm just trying

[34:23] to

[34:23] >> I think we should keep it.

[34:25] >> The home keeps a huge

[34:26] >> be careful about considering everything

[34:28] today that we're doing when you're

[34:29] looking at a general plan

[34:30] >> because also this also helps us in

[34:32] another way. Although we might never do

[34:34] it um because it's in the plan and if

[34:38] somebody meaning the legislature says,

[34:41] "Well, you guys don't even allow this."

[34:42] We can say, "Well, our general plan says

[34:44] that if in the future this is comes, we

[34:47] we're ready." But it's not now. We We

[34:50] all know it's probably never gonna

[34:52] happen, but at least we can show that we

[34:54] thought about it.

[34:56] >> Yeah.

[34:57] >> Right.

[34:57] >> Yeah. But someone could come to us and

[35:00] say, "You guys said you were going to

[35:03] consider lopsid reductions to reduce

[35:06] water usage." And so I've been forced to

[35:10] vote certain ways because of what's in

[35:11] the general plan. And I think this is

[35:13] wrong. I'm not going to I do not want to

[35:16] use lot size or multif family

[35:18] development to to adjust or to decrease

[35:21] water usage. I I don't want

[35:24] >> I don't think that I don't know how to

[35:28] say this.

[35:28] >> They don't have a choice.

[35:31] >> I don't disagree. But if if it's not in

[35:33] there and the state regulates that we

[35:35] have to do it, that doesn't say that

[35:36] we're not going to do it because it's

[35:38] not in our general plan.

[35:40] But Ryan, we also can't function out of

[35:42] fear of afraid of what somebody might

[35:45] say or what might somebody might object

[35:47] to. We have to do we have to do what's

[35:50] best.

[35:51] >> Well, and I think that having it in

[35:54] there shows that we have good faith that

[35:55] we're thinking of the future whether or

[35:57] not we do it or not. It doesn't mean

[35:59] that we have to zone right now. Any

[36:03] homeowner can come to us and request a

[36:05] change in zoning.

[36:06] >> Keep in mind this is this is something

[36:08] we're not saying we're doing. Yeah,

[36:10] we're not. It's just

[36:10] >> ideas on they're giving us ideas on how

[36:13] we can decrease water usage,

[36:14] >> right?

[36:15] >> So, as we start looking at all the ways

[36:17] in

[36:19] >> how we decrease our water usage, this

[36:21] may be something they'll be looking at that time.

[36:23] >> Is this not a plan?

[36:24] >> It doesn't commit us to anything. It's

[36:27] just saying some ideas on how you can

[36:29] decrease your water usage.

[36:30] >> And conservation right now is a huge

[36:33] topic in our state. It's

[36:35] >> I I understand that, but this is a plan.

[36:38] This is a city's plan. And if it says I

[36:41] plan to reduce water usage by reducing

[36:43] lot size and and allowing for multif

[36:45] family homes,

[36:46] >> say that it doesn't say that. This is

[36:49] factors

[36:50] >> to decrease.

[36:51] >> These could impact.

[36:54] >> Okay. I'm not saying not going to vote

[36:57] for this, but they leave it in there.

[37:00] I'm giving you my opinion.

[37:02] >> Love it. Okay. Let's keep going though.

[37:06] Okay. anything here.

[37:08] >> Yeah. Number four, the when we've got

[37:13] install drip irrigation, replace

[37:15] Kentucky blueg grass. Now, if this is

[37:18] stuff that the city's going to do, then we need to decide for that. If if

[37:22] it's encouraged like the first point

[37:26] was, then I say we say encourage on all

[37:28] of these.

[37:31] The first sentence says the city make um

[37:35] it well it says what does it say

[37:37] >> can take it doesn't say it has to take

[37:40] it just these are some

[37:42] >> ways ideas

[37:44] >> it just says

[37:46] >> right here

[37:47] >> they're bullet they're bullet points

[37:48] they're independent one of them says

[37:50] encourage local

[37:52] >> the very top line the top line

[37:55] >> I know

[37:57] >> switch it to me

[37:57] >> it says methods of reducing water. So,

[38:00] it's just giving suggestions of ways

[38:02] that people can reduce water,

[38:06] >> but I'm looking at that particular one.

[38:09] says reduce water

[38:11] used for landscaping. Encourage local

[38:13] scape or zeroscape landscaping.

[38:16] >> Then it says install irrigation systems,

[38:19] not encourage installing drip irrigation

[38:22] systems. Says replace Kentucky

[38:24] bluegrass. So, that is the city going to

[38:26] do that or are we going to encourage

[38:28] people to replace? Is it suggesting?

[38:31] >> Listen, you're not It needs to be It

[38:34] needs to be the same format.

[38:37] >> I think it is.

[38:38] >> One of them says encouraged and they all

[38:40] should be encouraged.

[38:44] » I just think that this is a list of

[38:46] ideas that citizens may or may not use.

[38:50] And if we get to a point where we're

[38:52] required to

[38:53] >> That's not how it reads, Carrie. It

[38:55] reads that we're going to encourage

[38:57] people to do one of them and the rest of

[38:59] them we're going to do.

[39:00] >> Yeah. I I think maybe the fastest way I

[39:03] think I hear what you're saying, Brian.

[39:04] Maybe what we do is we just put um in

[39:07] the top says reduce water usage for

[39:09] landscaping, you can just put methods to

[39:13] reduce water used in landscaping and

[39:16] then remove the word encourage on that

[39:18] first bullet uh first bullet and just

[39:20] put local escape. And then that way

[39:22] those are all ways that you can reduce

[39:25] water.

[39:26] >> We have methods. The the very first word

[39:29] of this whole thing is methods of

[39:30] reducing water. So all of them are

[39:32] methods.

[39:33] >> Yes.

[39:33] >> Yeah. But one of them is doing something

[39:35] and one of them is encouraging other

[39:37] people to do something. Carrie

[39:40] >> about the main title the main title of

[39:42] the whole

[39:42] >> not hearing me.

[39:45] >> Okay. I'm sorry.

[39:46] is saying you're going to encourage

[39:49] residents to do something. And the very

[39:51] next point

[39:53] >> says you're going to do something. It

[39:55] didn't say encourage. Now it now

[39:59] >> now it's a possible

[40:02] >> for interpretation.

[40:03] >> Yeah.

[40:04] >> Well, yeah, it's English.

[40:08] >> So, exactly. And we're saying up here at

[40:10] the beginning it says

[40:12] >> I get that. I get

[40:14] >> these five bullet points are actions the

[40:18] city may take

[40:20] thus making them all

[40:23] possible things we could do though not

[40:26] required

[40:28] >> at this point they're not required but

[40:30] they could be required I mean the state

[40:32] >> they're required

[40:34] >> in the future

[40:35] >> does this does this help right number

[40:39] >> thanks

[40:41] >> this water used for landscaping ing

[40:44] local scape.

[40:46] >> Install drip replace Kentucky reduce. So

[40:50] they're all now possible.

[40:51] >> So that meets your point.

[40:54] >> Perfect. Okay. Next.

[40:57] >> Good job, man.

[40:59] >> Well, we're I love

[41:03] keep it going.

[41:06] Um

[41:09] so in number six it talks about review

[41:12] ordinances policies about street trees

[41:15] to ensure it promotes water efficient

[41:17] and native tree. We don't have street

[41:19] trees. Matter of fact we require people

[41:21] to prune them back a certain distance

[41:24] for our code. I don't know that that's

[41:27] necessary.

[41:29] >> Keep in mind we still haven't completely

[41:31] developed. So

[41:32] >> yeah,

[41:32] >> that's that is true.

[41:34] >> As we continue to build,

[41:35] >> we could Yeah, we could do somewhere we

[41:37] could do

[41:39] >> we don't have them now, but it could be

[41:40] something we could have future.

[41:44] >> On the base, the bottom might require

[41:46] get to get a few trees. Who knows?

[41:49] >> You're right. 100%. I agree with you.

[41:52] >> Next.

[41:55] » I'm way down now.

[41:58] >> Perfect. Anybody else here?

[42:12] Okay. Anything on this page?

[42:15] >> I do not.

[42:21] » We don't want to ring the bell on nice

[42:23] sky.

[42:26] » Sorry, couldn't resist. Anything here?

[42:30] Um,

[42:32] >> it says night.

[42:34] >> Not that one. Wait, this looks

[42:36] different.

[42:39] >> Where's the chipper day section?

[42:43] >> Is it further down?

[42:46] » Awesome.

[42:47] >> Yeah, maybe I'm much further down. Okay.

[42:50] >> Chipper days.

[42:51] >> 91.

[42:52] Yeah.

[43:01] Okay, here's 91.

[43:04] » No, it's right here.

[43:09] » So, it has shifted. Format's shifted on.

[43:11] >> Yeah, something something shifted on it.

[43:14] >> Yeah, this is

[43:16] >> Oh, go up maybe then.

[43:20] >> Where'd it go? Or did it get deleted?

[43:24] It's probably covered by your

[43:28] >> wildfire mitigation objectives and

[43:29] strategies.

[43:30] >> It should be right above there. It's

[43:31] just missing.

[43:35] » So my question is and and this applies

[43:38] to that and the little chart there. So

[43:41] it says that we

[43:43] host annual community days, which we do,

[43:45] but what happens if we don't get the

[43:47] grants that we use for that or have

[43:49] extra funds to do it in the future? We

[43:52] wanna

[43:54] kind of word it as, you know, does our

[43:56] best to host tipper days.

[44:00] Um, and Ted, I'm that gonna kind of lean

[44:03] towards you because you get the grants

[44:05] for that. Um,

[44:09] » well, so it's it's it's a it's actually

[44:12] a county thing. You don't it's tipper

[44:15] days is something they come and do. It's

[44:17] not granted yet. They're

[44:20] CWP funding.

[44:22] Um,

[44:24] so I mean it's saying Wooden Hill hosts

[44:28] Kernese, which is a present tense

[44:30] verbiage, which is not untrue. We do

[44:33] host. Um, but if we want to change it to

[44:38] when the nails may host days, that'd be

[44:40] fine with me. I

[44:42] >> I just want I don't want to tie it tie

[44:44] us into something that that we feel that

[44:47] we don't have the funding for. Does that

[44:48] make sense? That's I'm just kind of

[44:50] concerned with that.

[44:52] >> I think it's a present day or present

[44:54] tense verbiage meaning we do.

[44:57] >> Uh I don't know that commits us to the

[44:59] future, but if you want to book May,

[45:02] that's fine, too. Does it help with our wildland interface ordinances

[45:06] and this the new law that just came out

[45:08] from the state to to have that as as

[45:11] listed so that um that helps with their

[45:15] formulas or anything that we actually

[45:18] are actively mitigating

[45:24] because I know that the insurance

[45:28] » but it doesn't uh it's not going

[45:32] start mapping because we're gay.

[45:34] >> Yeah. As long as it doesn't lock us into

[45:36] anything.

[45:37] >> Well, Brian, the old plan has a a trail

[45:40] all around the city that doesn't exist.

[45:42] Bunch of other things. So,

[45:45] >> I haven't had to vote on that. I don't

[45:48] >> none of it locks us in. I don't think

[45:51] >> these are all ideas to think about as we

[45:53] grow in the future.

[45:53] >> They're just things we want. This is

[45:55] like a wish list. I like that we have it

[45:58] in that we have chipper days because

[46:00] we're not going to be here forever and

[46:02] it helps people as they come in to

[46:04] recognize that this has been a

[46:06] longstanding tradition

[46:09] for over a decade or so that that we've

[46:12] done this and we wouldn't want to just

[46:15] say well it was a May because our

[46:17] residents kind of count on it and we us

[46:22] when I mean Ted usually figures it out.

[46:25] >> Yes. But what happens when Ted's not

[46:28] here and the city is is is in a dire

[46:32] straits with money and and that's what

[46:35] I'm that's what I'm asking. I I get if

[46:37] Ted says it's not locking us in, I'm

[46:39] happy with that. But if we're not in a

[46:43] spot where we do it,

[46:45] >> I think it's a present tense verbiage.

[46:46] It's saying we currently do.

[46:48] >> I don't know about the grants.

[46:51] >> I don't like the part about the grants.

[46:52] I just think may

[46:54] >> Yeah. Because it's not really a grant

[46:55] that we get to do this. It's just

[46:57] collaborating with the county.

[46:59] >> If we stop doing it, we amend the

[47:01] general plan.

[47:02] >> Yeah.

[47:04] >> It doesn't lock us in anything. Like I

[47:06] say, I I would say there's a lot of

[47:08] things in the old general plan that

[47:10] never came to fruition. It's a wish

[47:12] list.

[47:12] >> And that's why we want to do the

[47:14] strategic plan along with it so that

[47:15] there's actionable items associated with

[47:17] this.

[47:19] you into something then

[47:21] >> which I think in some cases

[47:25] >> that's good

[47:27] >> strategy that tells you how

[47:28] >> anything here

[47:31] >> these goals

[47:32] >> is the developments is that I mean well

[47:36] again I'm not I'm not against cluster

[47:38] developments but I guess this just is

[47:41] consider I mean when we say consider

[47:44] them I guess that's if someone brings it

[47:46] to us. Yes.

[47:51] Where are you?

[47:52] >> That would most likely be

[47:54] >> number one be be number one right there.

[47:56] So it says consider cluster developments

[47:59] or conservation easements.

[48:02] I don't

[48:04] >> it's not our land

[48:05] >> a development agreement too because you

[48:08] know like Summit Creek they have areas

[48:10] that are clustered um smaller lot size

[48:13] clustered even though their overall

[48:15] density remains the same. So that that

[48:18] might be what it's like is if we

[48:21] consider having like all along 11200

[48:25] maybe we would do more clustered so that

[48:27] it's just not all one big lawn area

[48:31] >> and consider is an extremely loose term.

[48:33] >> Yeah,

[48:34] >> that what I'm I'm I'm kind of rereading

[48:37] there. Um

[48:42] » and we we have discussed a conservation

[48:44] easement for the uh switchbacks.

[48:51] » Okay. Any issue here with these goals?

[48:55] This goal three A and B.

[48:59] Nope.

[49:01] Okay. Chapter nine. One. Two more to go.

[49:08] anything there.

[49:09] >> You need a new sign.

[49:11] >> Yeah. Um

[49:15] >> I was an Eagle Scout project.

[49:17] >> I know, but those don't last forever.

[49:20] >> I think it's like 25 years. 20 years

[49:22] old, isn't it?

[49:23] >> Yeah. It's just old.

[49:26] >> Okay.

[49:27] The

[49:29] nine. Yeah, they're on the on the left

[49:32] under existing conditions. Um, can we

[49:35] add volunteers into the group? So, it

[49:37] says

[49:39] relies on a combination of municipal

[49:41] systems, private enterprises, and

[49:44] contract services, but we also rely on

[49:46] volunteers as well. I think that's

[49:47] important to put that in there.

[49:55] » Page 96.

[49:56] >> Yeah, I'm just looking I see volunteers

[49:58] later, so by that, but I see where

[50:00] you're putting that in.

[50:02] >> Yeah. And then the city provides some

[50:03] sewing sewer

[50:06] and whole culinary. I don't know how,

[50:08] you know, I don't want to I don't know.

[50:11] That's not a big deal. That was just

[50:12] some points there.

[50:21] » Okay.

[50:26] » I don't have anything tell emergency

[50:27] services, so you got a minute.

[50:30] >> Okay. Anything here from

[50:33] the three of you?

[50:37] >> Yeah, this is pretty um generic.

[50:39] >> Yeah.

[50:40] >> Okay.

[50:41] >> Except for Yeah.

[50:48] » Emergency services,

[50:51] >> right? It says seeking to replace

[50:55] vehicles every 15 years and and 10 years

[50:59] and

[51:01] That's and we just replaced we just got

[51:04] rid of an engine. So I would say seeking

[51:07] to maintain a certified first response

[51:09] fire engine.

[51:13] » Well, isn't that some of your your

[51:15] language too, Ted, about when to replace

[51:17] them? Just so that people are aware more

[51:20] of a timetable like because we don't

[51:23] know that it needs replaced until the

[51:24] fire chief starts mentioning it. But if

[51:27] it's in the plan that you can say oh

[51:29] about every 10 years or whatever they

[51:31] do. What wasn't that suggested?

[51:33] >> You can say you can say 10 years.

[51:36] >> What I suggested was that we what when I

[51:39] talked to Daniel about said we replace

[51:40] these to comply with NFPA. Y

[51:43] >> which is generally every 15 years.

[51:45] >> Yeah.

[51:48] >> So we can just be put between vehicles

[51:50] in every put generally.

[51:54] Is

[51:54] >> that a double L or a single L?

[51:57] Mayor.

[51:57] >> Yes, sir.

[51:59] >> Go back. I think it's a misstatement

[52:01] here. Under internet service,

[52:03] Summit Creek is serviced by Century

[52:06] Link, not Centric.

[52:09] >> Yeah.

[52:12] >> What page is that?

[52:13] >> It's on page 98.

[52:16] >> Is all Summit Creek

[52:18] >> right there. They're not ser.

[52:20] >> No, Summit Creek all has Centric.

[52:23] >> They are.

[52:23] >> Yeah. Their whole entire development is

[52:26] Centric comp.

[52:26] >> Okay. My mistake.

[52:28] >> But page 27, you refer to GPS tracking

[52:31] as well. We don't have GPS tracking

[52:34] >> right here above the I saw it.

[52:36] >> That's a Yeah, and I read that too.

[52:38] Look, Jody, and that is a

[52:42] >> a possibility. Those are things that we

[52:44] could think of these efforts may

[52:47] include. So, yes, we don't have it, but

[52:50] could do that again. Well, and we at one

[52:53] time thought

[52:54] >> we don't want to lock us into that

[52:55] >> that we would have that just on this

[52:57] >> may include

[53:00] >> I know. I'm just teasing you, Brian.

[53:02] >> I know you. I know you are.

[53:04] >> I'm poking you. I got to poke the bear.

[53:06] >> Once again, it's a may. It's an idea.

[53:08] Other cities do this a lot.

[53:09] >> Yeah.

[53:10] >> Helps them make more efficient. Will we

[53:12] ever do it? Likely not. But when I

[53:14] talked to Daniel about this, it was uh

[53:16] you know, we keep it in there as an idea

[53:18] for the future. But that's why the May

[53:20] is there. Don't know that we would ever

[53:22] really need it here.

[53:25] Our routes aren't that complicated.

[53:31] Just commentary on just

[53:35] this picture of the engine is 192.

[53:38] That's the one that's out the door.

[53:40] >> I don't know if you want to update it.

[53:42] >> 191.

[53:45] >> Okay. Yeah,

[53:45] >> just I mean again it's not a big deal

[53:47] that just I noticed that.

[53:50] >> Okay, Santa

[53:51] >> kissing 192 is a left.

[53:55] >> And the roundabout picture is going to

[53:56] need to be changed, too.

[53:58] >> Yeah, that's true. And the mailbox. But

[54:00] I like that angle. Did you take that or

[54:04] somebody else?

[54:04] >> I did not.

[54:05] >> He stood out in the middle of traffic

[54:06] and risked it.

[54:08] >> I just like that the mailboxes and the

[54:10] mountain and the clouds

[54:13] and flag pole. Yeah, I'm make that

[54:15] border really ugly so I remember to do

[54:17] something about it.

[54:19] >> Hey, so the the next change that I have

[54:21] in that same area there, mayor and Ted,

[54:25] you can, you know, definitely definitely

[54:27] chime in, but the way this is worded um

[54:30] says the city the city purchased a new

[54:33] engine 2023. As of 2025, the department

[54:36] owns two brush.

[54:39] This includes a heavy brush. Okay,

[54:42] that's all that's all different. So if

[54:44] you include the heavy brush, there's

[54:46] three brush trucks,

[54:49] including the heavy brush truck.

[54:51] One designed

[54:54] for extended fire operation

[54:59] in off-road areas.

[55:02] It also

[55:03] >> two brush trucks and the the water

[55:05] tender is actually the brush truck, but

[55:08] >> I know this the way it's worded and and

[55:10] you can go in and reward this all the

[55:12] way you want to. So, two brush trucks

[55:15] plus a heavy brush tender,

[55:19] not a tender. It's a heavy brush truck

[55:22] and a tender. It's also served as a

[55:24] tender.

[55:26] You could put uh this the this this

[55:29] these these I would just take out heavy

[55:32] right there. This includes brush trucks.

[55:35] designed for

[55:37] extended firefighting operations in

[55:39] off-road areas and a water tender.

[55:43] A support vehicle ignores.

[55:46] >> We have two brush trucks. This includes

[55:49] I wouldn't say brush trucks again. This

[55:51] includes truck or includes maybe

[55:54] apparatuses designed for extended

[55:56] firefighting operations in off-road

[55:57] areas and a water tender.

[56:00] >> I have no idea how to spell apparatus.

[56:02] >> Is apparatus or is it plural apparati?

[56:05] >> Don't you dare go there.

[56:11] » How do you spell apparatus?

[56:12] >> Two ps.

[56:16] A p a r a tus.

[56:21] There you go.

[56:23] Apparatuses is

[56:26] >> apparatuses designed for extended and a

[56:29] water tender. That's probably a better

[56:30] way to say that.

[56:32] >> This is the most scholastically accurate

[56:34] document ever.

[56:41] » All right.

[56:42] >> The next paragraph. And again, this is

[56:44] you can do this however you want, Chief.

[56:47] But I don't the way we this this next

[56:49] section is worded about the full-time

[56:51] crew is completely backward. The city

[56:54] employed the full-time crew to do

[56:56] wildfire mitigation around town. The

[56:58] city has an arrangement where this crew

[56:59] these crew members can be called away to

[57:01] assist national emergency wildfires.

[57:03] It's the other way. We hire we have a

[57:05] crew that can that's hired to do the

[57:08] emergency wildfires and while they're in

[57:10] town and not deployed,

[57:12] >> they do fire mitigation.

[57:14] >> Yeah.

[57:15] So just put those two sentences

[57:17] >> those two around

[57:38] city has an arrangement

[57:41] crew members can be called away to

[57:43] assist nationally on emergency

[57:45] wildfires.

[57:48] » But again, that's also local, state, and

[57:51] >> you got to leave that first sentence.

[57:53] While the city has year- round volunteer

[57:55] firefighting crews, that's got to be the

[57:56] first sentence in the paragraph.

[58:06] » Just go after firefighting, fire,

[58:08] volunteer firefighting crew. Cut that

[58:10] out. Put it as the first sentence.

[58:12] Okay.

[58:25] I've got it worded. Mayor, the seasonal

[58:28] full-time crew is employed to respond to

[58:30] local and national emergencies and

[58:33] performs mitigation efforts around town

[58:34] when they are not deployed.

[58:38] That Ted, do you like that?

[58:40] >> Yeah, that sounds good. write that up

[58:42] and send it to me.

[58:44] >> Yes, sir. I can do that.

[58:46] >> You can even just text.

[58:48] >> Yeah, I'll do that. Now, the next part

[58:50] is where it says helps cover municipal

[58:53] cost. Just delete cover of municipal

[58:57] or helps I'm sorry, helps and municipal.

[59:01] Um, this on call service covers

[59:04] municipal cost or covers cost for the

[59:07] professional crew and equipment.

[59:10] And we could even say it also brings in

[59:12] revenue at the end.

[59:15] >> How about that?

[59:17] >> That works.

[59:18] >> It doesn't always bring in revenue

[59:20] >> on call service.

[59:21] >> First year, right?

[59:23] >> We're We're in the black, sister.

[59:26] >> I know. We are now.

[59:30] » It all depends on the fire year.

[59:32] >> It depends on the year though.

[59:33] >> Yep. Absolutely. We had one year which

[59:36] was our second year actually that

[59:37] >> it was yeah there was one year that we

[59:39] weren't

[59:41] >> enough the first year that covered that

[59:43] plus more

[59:46] >> somebody didn't want to go out on fires.

[59:56] » Okay.

[59:59] Law enforcement, anything?

[1:00:05] » City buildings and property.

[1:00:11] » How about these goals?

[1:00:13] >> Yeah. Goal 3A.

[1:00:16] Number two.

[1:00:21] » So, if this isn't locking us in, wait,

[1:00:24] that's not goal three down. You're on

[1:00:27] goal two.

[1:00:29] Yeah,

[1:00:30] >> thank you.

[1:00:31] >> There we go.

[1:00:33] >> So, it says maintain a seasonal

[1:00:35] full-time wild fire mitigation crew.

[1:00:38] That isn't guaranteed. Again, TED is

[1:00:41] working hard to keep this going, but I

[1:00:44] don't want to say that

[1:00:46] we're going

[1:00:49] >> it's a goal.

[1:00:51] >> That's if it doesn't lock us in, I'm

[1:00:53] great with that's all I wanted to say.

[1:00:56] No, this is this is a goal for us to

[1:00:58] continue to maintain that full time per

[1:01:04] just wanted to double check that one.

[1:01:06] Made me nervous.

[1:01:10] » I don't think it's a commitment. It's a

[1:01:12] goal of course.

[1:01:13] >> Okay, I like it. And I that's it for me.

[1:01:16] Mayor, you guys can I'll mute myself.

[1:01:25] Jody, what do you got for me on

[1:01:26] annexation?

[1:01:29] Have you read through this?

[1:01:31] >> We've learned a lot lately.

[1:01:32] >> We've learned a lot through annexation.

[1:01:34] I have not.

[1:01:39] » Okay. Does anybody have any thoughts on

[1:01:42] chapter 10 from your guys's review?

[1:01:45] >> Well, and some of this is just based on

[1:01:47] state law anyway. So,

[1:01:50] >> it it looks like it's all state, though.

[1:01:51] >> Yeah. And it's and it's anote it's it's

[1:01:54] put in there 10-2-401.5.

[1:02:00] So I think as long as if that's ever

[1:02:03] updated, it will automatically update

[1:02:06] us.

[1:02:08] >> Okay.

[1:02:09] >> Some of it's not.

[1:02:15] We we probably need to take another look

[1:02:18] at that and we can do so as part of the

[1:02:22] public hearing

[1:02:24] uh to see if there's any misstatements

[1:02:26] in here. I quickly looked it over a day

[1:02:29] or so ago and it was generalities.

[1:02:33] Uh it wasn't specific as to processes.

[1:02:37] So I can plan to come to planning

[1:02:39] commission on that day if we need to

[1:02:41] make any adjustments.

[1:02:43] We'll present this back. There's not

[1:02:45] going to be a vote. We'll present this

[1:02:47] the changes and everything back to the

[1:02:49] council once the public hearing is held.

[1:02:53] >> Okay.

[1:02:54] Well, wonderful. Any other thoughts or

[1:02:56] comments on the general plan side from

[1:02:59] any of the council members?

[1:03:04] » Just those red lines that seemed okay

[1:03:06] when I read through them. It it's

[1:03:08] interesting because the it I feel like

[1:03:10] the chapters that are just pulled in

[1:03:11] with data don't need as much overhauling

[1:03:15] maybe as some of the other ones that we

[1:03:18] >> Yeah, there's less subjectivity about

[1:03:19] it.

[1:03:20] >> Yeah,

[1:03:21] >> they don't seem to have as much. I mean,

[1:03:23] you can't really

[1:03:24] >> And the red lines just appear to be just

[1:03:26] a clarification more than substantive of

[1:03:30] the the message.

[1:03:31] >> Seven. Number six.

[1:03:35] Um,

[1:03:37] that was pulled in incorrectly.

[1:03:41] Says the Utah code definition and then

[1:03:44] it says whose boundaries are within 1/2

[1:03:47] of the area proposed for annexation.

[1:03:49] That's not correct.

[1:03:54] » Half of the proposed for annexation.

[1:03:57] >> So is that because that's a five acre

[1:03:59] parcel. Are they saying you have to

[1:04:03] do two ac 2 and a half acres of the

[1:04:05] annexation area? So I don't think that's

[1:04:07] correct.

[1:04:08] >> It's co defining the code the state

[1:04:11] code. So maybe that's the state code.

[1:04:13] >> I Yeah, we just went over the state code

[1:04:14] with

[1:04:15] >> I've bolded this

[1:04:17] >> and so let's take a look at it as I make

[1:04:19] these edits tomorrow

[1:04:21] >> because that's one thing that I asked

[1:04:22] Daniel to do is that anything he put in

[1:04:24] here that had state code to make sure it

[1:04:27] was documented as such. Perfect. Yeah,

[1:04:30] we'll just double check it. That'll be

[1:04:31] worked out. Great. Okay, if there's

[1:04:35] nothing else,

[1:04:38] wonderful. Okay, then we're going to

[1:04:40] move on to number two. If anybody online

[1:04:42] had any thoughts or feelings during

[1:04:44] that, I'd love to take note of those and

[1:04:47] when we get to the public comment,

[1:04:49] please let us

[1:04:50] >> I had a text.

[1:04:51] >> I did, too.

[1:04:53] >> So, so you want them to say it during

[1:04:56] the public comment period. Okay.

[1:04:57] >> Yep.

[1:04:58] Wonderful. Okay,

[1:05:01] we're going to move on to number two,

[1:05:03] proposed accounting service contract.

[1:05:05] This is a discussion regarding the

[1:05:06] proposed accounting services contract

[1:05:09] with um Charlene Wild.

[1:05:13] Um this is in your packet, correct?

[1:05:16] Um we went through like I talked to you

[1:05:19] guys about this last council meeting.

[1:05:22] Um, we interviewed some fabulous uh,

[1:05:27] potential applicants for this role. Um,

[1:05:29] and it was not an easy decision, but it

[1:05:32] really just kind of boiled down to a

[1:05:35] cultural fit because their both their

[1:05:37] skill levels was exquisite. Um, and so

[1:05:41] we decided to go with um, Charlene Wild.

[1:05:45] Um, for full disclosure, I

[1:05:48] kind of have been working with her over

[1:05:50] the last four years over at the transfer

[1:05:53] station, though I'd never met her

[1:05:54] before. I just pulled the referral from

[1:05:58] them. Um, and we interviewed her,

[1:06:02] myself, Lori, Jody, Wayne. Um, sat down

[1:06:05] with all the applicants and this is who

[1:06:08] we felt would be the best fit for the

[1:06:10] city. Um, any questions on that

[1:06:13] >> or concerns?

[1:06:15] when are we just she how how many she

[1:06:18] doesn't come into the office right

[1:06:20] because she's working

[1:06:21] >> she will be coming into the office um at

[1:06:23] least once a quarter and she'd be h she

[1:06:26] says she'd be happy to join us at a

[1:06:28] council meeting here and there if needed

[1:06:31] so and she's available um and I know

[1:06:33] we've discussed this a little bit Brian

[1:06:35] in the past at our last meeting but if

[1:06:37] you guys have questions um feel free to

[1:06:40] give Lori a call first um and if she

[1:06:43] can't help then you guys are welcome to

[1:06:46] give her a call as well. She's

[1:06:47] anticipating those types of

[1:06:49] correspondence.

[1:06:50] >> Could you restate for the public record

[1:06:51] how much we're saving annually by going

[1:06:53] this route?

[1:06:54] >> Um so it's so she is an hourly waged um

[1:06:59] contract um at $95 an hour with a 2%

[1:07:03] increase for cost of living um each

[1:07:05] year. Um I talked with her and we

[1:07:08] shifted that not from her year or date

[1:07:12] of hire but that increase will happen at

[1:07:15] fiscal year. So that way it helps with

[1:07:18] the budgeting. Um so she she agreed with

[1:07:21] that logic. Um, we're going from around

[1:07:24] $150,000 with benefits, um, uh,

[1:07:28] retirement, health care, all of those

[1:07:30] different calculations adding into that

[1:07:32] $150,000

[1:07:33] down to on a high-end $15,000.

[1:07:40] So, you can kind of do that math. 120ish

[1:07:44] plus,000 savings a year from where we

[1:07:47] were to this. Now, she is not taking on

[1:07:52] 100% of the the duties that our former

[1:07:56] employee held. Um, but those duties are

[1:08:00] all being taken care of. Um, and you'll

[1:08:02] see those reflected in our next item.

[1:08:05] Uh, where there are slight bumps to

[1:08:10] um wages for those increased duties.

[1:08:15] So, any other questions there?

[1:08:18] Um, so when next time you have her in on

[1:08:20] quarterly, can it be on a day that we

[1:08:22] have council meetings so we can meet

[1:08:24] her?

[1:08:24] >> Yeah, so she's in town every twice a

[1:08:27] week,

[1:08:28] >> um, up in Oro and so she said she'd be

[1:08:31] more than happy to stop by. So great.

[1:08:34] >> Be nice.

[1:08:35] >> Just an introduction.

[1:08:36] >> So, um, call Lori first and then if we

[1:08:40] still have questions, call Charlene.

[1:08:42] >> Yep.

[1:08:43] >> But I don't want to bar you guys from

[1:08:45] calling Charlene. So, did you send us

[1:08:47] her contact information then?

[1:08:49] >> Uh, you should have it. It's also

[1:08:51] Charlenewood Hills.

[1:08:53] >> Okay.

[1:08:55] >> I got it right. I got it wrong earlier

[1:08:57] today.

[1:08:58] Okay. Then let's move on to number

[1:09:00] three. Uh, the fiscal year 2027 budget

[1:09:03] presentation. So, this is the mayor's

[1:09:05] budget for the 2027.

[1:09:08] Um, this is

[1:09:11] the document that we went that you each

[1:09:14] of you went through. um all of the

[1:09:16] different items that you selected. Um

[1:09:20] and we then went to the finance

[1:09:22] committee for two different meetings. Um

[1:09:25] and then this is what we kind of

[1:09:27] compiled

[1:09:29] um as we went through those three

[1:09:31] exercises.

[1:09:33] So there shouldn't be anything too uh

[1:09:35] crazy. I do want to make a few

[1:09:37] highlights for you guys though on things

[1:09:39] that have changed a little bit since

[1:09:43] um you guys saw this last.

[1:09:47] If you will go to

[1:09:50] >> give us the numbers. Yeah,

[1:09:51] >> exactly. Page probably there's I know

[1:09:54] there's no page.

[1:09:55] >> I was going to say there's no page

[1:09:56] number.

[1:09:57] >> So go to expenditures.

[1:09:59] Um

[1:10:00] >> it was just like 3610 or whatever.

[1:10:02] >> Yep. Let's go to account number

[1:10:05] 4

[1:10:07] 1111.6.

[1:10:10] >> Neither.

[1:10:11] >> Correct.

[1:10:12] >> Oh,

[1:10:13] >> let me actually see you in here.

[1:10:16] Well, actually, let's go to 411.10.

[1:10:20] So, this is

[1:10:22] >> what

[1:10:23] >> this is mayor and council wages.

[1:10:25] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I've actually

[1:10:28] proposed an increase um of I wish I had

[1:10:33] my notes on this um here. Let me pull

[1:10:36] these real fast so that I

[1:10:37] >> Oh, I have the old one, but it's I don't

[1:10:39] have it with me.

[1:10:40] >> I've got them right here. We should be

[1:10:42] okay. Hopefully,

[1:10:48] » Jody, off the top of your head, you

[1:10:49] remember what I did here?

[1:10:52] >> Yeah.

[1:10:56] Uh so this is a proposed increase of

[1:11:00] um 500 a month for the mayor to 600 a

[1:11:03] month. So $100 increase and for each of

[1:11:06] the council from 200 a month to 300 a

[1:11:08] month. Uh this is an increase mostly due

[1:11:11] to the fact that it has not increased

[1:11:13] for the last 12 years 13 years something

[1:11:18] along those lines.

[1:11:19] >> It's been a long while

[1:11:21] >> um

[1:11:22] >> since I moved here. It was I believe the

[1:11:25] last change was under Mayor

[1:11:30] Nile Jensen

[1:11:32] >> was a change because you went from

[1:11:36] >> stipended to salary because we had to

[1:11:39] take into consideration. So there was a

[1:11:41] slight bump but it wasn't um

[1:11:45] >> it wasn't very significant.

[1:11:48] >> It was still went like from 3 cents to

[1:11:50] two cent I mean 3 cents to 4 cents.

[1:11:52] Yeah, I think it went from like

[1:11:54] >> under Toby it went up a little bit and

[1:11:56] then under Steve it went up a little bit

[1:11:58] but not

[1:12:00] >> so that's basically what that difference

[1:12:02] is from the 18,000 to the 25,200

[1:12:05] >> still nobody's running for this office

[1:12:07] for the pay.

[1:12:08] >> No and everybody should know that when

[1:12:10] we we we pay our own travel expense and

[1:12:13] that comes out of that

[1:12:14] >> which you know doesn't last a whole

[1:12:16] month.

[1:12:17] >> Exactly. some of us throw events for the

[1:12:20] city and spend more than that.

[1:12:22] >> You'll also see an increase in the FICA.

[1:12:24] So, the next line item um from the 1400

[1:12:26] to the 1928

[1:12:28] um that's just the difference in that

[1:12:31] increase for the FICA payment. Um the

[1:12:33] next one you will see is that 411.600.

[1:12:38] Um that is the mayor's expenses and I've

[1:12:42] added $1,000 there. Now, the reason for

[1:12:45] that, so the 500 originally usually

[1:12:47] comes in a form of

[1:12:50] a a thank you bonus to our staff at the

[1:12:53] end of the year is typically what that

[1:12:55] 500 has been used for.

[1:12:57] >> Um the thousand increase is for a a few

[1:13:01] initiatives that I'm looking to start

[1:13:02] rolling out throughout the city. um

[1:13:05] which would be a thou the $1,000 would

[1:13:09] cover the costs of those uh basically

[1:13:12] dessert events for different residents

[1:13:15] throughout the city that we will rotate

[1:13:17] through. Um so that's where those

[1:13:19] expenses would be going.

[1:13:23] Any questions there?

[1:13:25] Okay.

[1:13:27] Um,

[1:13:29] council expenses we are dropping from

[1:13:33] the,000 down to the 500. That's

[1:13:36] basically

[1:13:38] um $100 each. Um, and we've really just

[1:13:43] never used it. every once in a while

[1:13:46] >> we don't use it

[1:13:46] >> cuz we also have the 300 in council

[1:13:49] discretionary that's typically used for

[1:13:52] things like um flowers sent to funerals

[1:13:56] for a family member of staff or us or

[1:14:00] whatever. Um and so you guys I want you

[1:14:03] guys to think about work together and

[1:14:07] let's use that in some capacity to

[1:14:09] benefit the residents of the city of

[1:14:11] Wooden Hills.

[1:14:14] The next thing you will see is the

[1:14:17] admin. Um, and I've I pushed these hard

[1:14:20] onto the the finance committee to take a

[1:14:22] look at and get their thoughts on. Um, I

[1:14:26] have discussed this slightly with some

[1:14:28] of the admin and some I have not. I am

[1:14:31] proposing a 2% cost of living increase

[1:14:35] um for

[1:14:38] uh Ted uh with his wage plus a 2%

[1:14:42] performance increase um for the the

[1:14:46] quality work. So it's a 4% increase

[1:14:48] total. Um that seems to be what is going

[1:14:52] on with other cities as I've spoken with

[1:14:54] them to for their compensation.

[1:14:57] Um, everybody else's is an increase kind

[1:15:00] of in a different way. Um, Jod's full

[1:15:03] budget or pay comes out of the general

[1:15:06] fund and I'm requesting a 6% raise there

[1:15:11] due to the additional duties that have

[1:15:13] been taken on

[1:15:16] um that we discussed earlier uh with the

[1:15:20] departure of our former employee.

[1:15:21] >> So, it's like 2% cost of living and then

[1:15:24] >> 4% raise,

[1:15:26] >> right? It's really a 2% increase on

[1:15:28] additional duties, a 2% increase on

[1:15:32] performance evaluation, and a 2% cost of

[1:15:34] living.

[1:15:35] >> Okay. Thanks for the break.

[1:15:36] >> Uhhuh. Um Lori, this is only 30% of

[1:15:40] Lor's wage that comes out of this um

[1:15:43] particular fund. Um, and she I'm

[1:15:47] requesting a 2% cost of living, uh, 2%

[1:15:52] performance,

[1:15:53] and then, if I do my math right, an 8%

[1:15:56] increase because she is taking on a

[1:15:59] significant amount of

[1:16:01] >> Which number is is Lor's compared to

[1:16:02] Jod's?

[1:16:04] >> This is only 30% of So, this is 50% of

[1:16:07] Ted's wage

[1:16:09] >> that's in here. 100% of Jod's wage, 30%

[1:16:12] of Lor's wage.

[1:16:15] Okay.

[1:16:16] >> 100% Jodie and 30%.

[1:16:19] >> And let's be clear, uh Lori's been doing

[1:16:22] those extra duties for a long time and

[1:16:24] not getting compensated for.

[1:16:25] >> Correct. This is somewhat of a catchup

[1:16:28] um for years of additional duties that

[1:16:31] she has not been compensated for.

[1:16:33] >> Mayor, can you give us the breakdown of

[1:16:36] where the former employees monies came

[1:16:38] from, his salaries, so that we can do

[1:16:40] that comparison as well?

[1:16:42] >> Uh yes. Yes. Um if that's okay, I will

[1:16:46] go through that as we get through the

[1:16:48] budget. Would that work for you, Brian?

[1:16:49] >> Yeah. Yeah. I just want to know where it

[1:16:50] came from so we can we can compare it.

[1:16:54] >> Yes. Cuz now I've stripped all those out

[1:16:56] of all those different accounts so it's

[1:16:59] a little more transparent for us.

[1:17:01] >> Um well

[1:17:03] say the bookkeeper also I know you did

[1:17:05] it in finance but state here how many

[1:17:07] hours she said it will do take to do the

[1:17:09] job a month. Uh, it'll take her, she

[1:17:12] said about three hours. Isn't that what

[1:17:15] you guys remember? Three to four.

[1:17:17] >> Three to four hours a month to do this

[1:17:19] to do her side things

[1:17:20] >> employee. But our our full-time

[1:17:22] employees are doing a greater chunk of

[1:17:24] it. So, that's one of the reasons.

[1:17:26] >> There is there's a lot more to it than

[1:17:28] just that. You are right. But I just

[1:17:29] wanted to like that that uh justifies

[1:17:33] the raises is what I'm is what I'm

[1:17:34] trying to say is because the employees

[1:17:36] are taking on

[1:17:37] >> so much so that the bookkeeper is only

[1:17:39] doing so many hours.

[1:17:41] >> Sorry. I just I just know the naysayers

[1:17:43] hate raises and they hate salaries. So I

[1:17:45] just want to make sure everything's laid

[1:17:47] out

[1:17:48] >> so can be understood.

[1:17:49] >> There's a massive decrease in wage

[1:17:51] expenses for the city. Yeah.

[1:17:53] >> With all these raises.

[1:17:55] >> Uh Toby 50% of Oh yes, Brian. Where is

[1:17:59] her? Are you gonna tell us where hers

[1:18:01] is?

[1:18:03] >> Which bucket it's coming out of later

[1:18:05] because it's not in professional

[1:18:06] services. So,

[1:18:07] >> and it's not in this line item. Correct.

[1:18:10] >> Okay.

[1:18:11] >> And I will once we get there, I will

[1:18:12] highlight that.

[1:18:14] >> So, 50% of Toby's wage also is coming

[1:18:17] out of here. Um, Toby, I had requested

[1:18:21] and this is actually back when you guys

[1:18:23] have already seen this. You've already

[1:18:24] seen this increase that I requested back

[1:18:26] then. This is a 2% um cost of living

[1:18:30] increase plus a 3% um performance. Um

[1:18:34] Toby has come on um predominantly his

[1:18:37] need was uh or desire was for an

[1:18:40] insurance package. Um and the wage was

[1:18:42] secondary though he was he has been an

[1:18:45] immense asset to our city and so I

[1:18:48] wanted to express our our gratitude

[1:18:50] there. he has saved us a lot of money

[1:18:53] and really increased our quality of

[1:18:55] service to our residents.

[1:18:57] Um

[1:19:00] so then if you go down FICA on the 2020

[1:19:05] or so if you look at the 4141.22

[1:19:09] that increase is just

[1:19:12] >> the equivalent increases due to the

[1:19:14] raises. Okay.

[1:19:15] >> Okay. as well as the retirement

[1:19:18] um admin health insurance. This

[1:19:21] drastically jumped from the 16,000 to

[1:19:24] the 44,000

[1:19:25] simply because I pulled it out of all of

[1:19:28] the other areas. This was

[1:19:31] articulated to combined

[1:19:34] >> used to be in streets, snowplow, wreck,

[1:19:37] parks, all over the place. And now it's

[1:19:39] just one place we can easily see it.

[1:19:42] >> Sense. Um everything else here. Um no.

[1:19:47] >> Okay.

[1:19:47] >> Was it ever in water or sewer in

[1:19:50] enterprise accounts?

[1:19:51] >> Yes. We will get there when we get to

[1:19:53] those. I'll explain those those

[1:19:54] breakouts because the

[1:19:57] >> the other 50% of Ted and Toby are in the

[1:20:00] water fund.

[1:20:01] >> Yeah. But the you were you were just

[1:20:03] saying you moved retirement to or not

[1:20:07] retirement.

[1:20:08] Yeah.

[1:20:10] health insurance to general. Were those

[1:20:13] Was health insurance ever in the

[1:20:15] enterprise funds?

[1:20:17] >> Yes. I didn't move all of it. I just

[1:20:19] moved the associated percentages.

[1:20:21] >> Just back to Okay. I just want to keep

[1:20:23] those in the the enterprise fund.

[1:20:26] >> 50% of Ted's in health insurance, FICA,

[1:20:29] everything is in the general fund. 100%

[1:20:32] of Jod's benefits are from the general

[1:20:34] fund. 30% of Lor's are in the general

[1:20:37] fund. and 50% of Toby is in the general

[1:20:40] fund.

[1:20:42] Okay. So, if we keep going down here, um

[1:20:46] if you go down to

[1:20:49] um

[1:20:52] I'm seeing it here,

[1:20:55] 4141.649

[1:21:01] » repairs, maintenance.

[1:21:04] >> Correct. Um, you will see Oh, what's

[1:21:08] going on here?

[1:21:10] I've got an error.

[1:21:13] Glad we're seeing this. That budget

[1:21:17] actually

[1:21:18] should say

[1:21:21] 134,000

[1:21:24] >> for the where it says under

[1:21:26] >> 975.

[1:21:27] Yep.

[1:21:28] >> Repeat that.

[1:21:30] >> 134,975.

[1:21:33] That's a big error.

[1:21:34] >> Yeah,

[1:21:35] >> it is a very big error, which helps me

[1:21:37] answer some questions.

[1:21:40] >> That's why we're going through this.

[1:21:43] is what happens when you spend too

[1:21:44] much time staring at the document.

[1:21:47] >> Mhm. It's true.

[1:21:49] >> Okay. Please be patient with me while I

[1:21:52] hurry and adjust that.

[1:22:00] 34

[1:22:03] 975.

[1:22:04] Now, this is all of the different things

[1:22:08] that you guys decided to vote on, mostly

[1:22:11] from Jod's request list. Okay.

[1:22:14] >> Yeah.

[1:22:15] >> Um the only thing that changed on that

[1:22:17] list that you guys voted on was a a

[1:22:21] wheelchair access ramp, which was

[1:22:24] $4,000.

[1:22:25] >> Mhm.

[1:22:26] >> Um for the center building. Okay. That

[1:22:28] includes $2500 which would be the

[1:22:31] concrete ramp and then I'm budgeting

[1:22:33] another the the difference um

[1:22:36] potentially for handrails. I expect that

[1:22:38] to come in lower but that's kind of what

[1:22:41] that will end up looking like if anybody

[1:22:43] has any issues there.

[1:22:45] >> That was a citizen suggestion, wasn't

[1:22:46] it?

[1:22:47] >> Yes.

[1:22:47] >> Well, we've been planning that for a

[1:22:49] long time. It just never were able to

[1:22:51] get it done.

[1:22:52] >> Yeah.

[1:22:53] And frankly, we need to so that we're in

[1:22:55] compliance and so we can take care of

[1:22:57] because we have residents in

[1:22:58] wheelchairs. So,

[1:23:01] >> um, okay. So, that's what that number

[1:23:04] is. Plus,

[1:23:06] I had somebody come and look at this

[1:23:08] side of the building with all the

[1:23:10] sighting problems, the leaking and all

[1:23:12] that.

[1:23:14] We're not going to be able to get away

[1:23:15] with uh some duct tape and bailing

[1:23:18] twine. Um the installation initially

[1:23:21] apparently wasn't done correctly

[1:23:23] completely and thus we're having the

[1:23:25] problems. It all has to come off.

[1:23:27] >> It was done with duct tape originally

[1:23:29] and wire it started with duct tape. No,

[1:23:32] I don't want I don't want to speak to it

[1:23:34] cuz I wasn't involved in that

[1:23:35] construction.

[1:23:36] >> It's just missing some items that

[1:23:39] >> there's some key things. So that's one

[1:23:42] of the reasons also that's a little bit

[1:23:44] >> what this is in barn raising basically.

[1:23:47] in

[1:23:47] >> well and this building is now getting to

[1:23:50] that age

[1:23:52] where things need to start being uh

[1:23:54] repaired.

[1:23:56] >> So,

[1:23:56] >> or it's going to really if you don't do

[1:23:59] it, you're going to have some really big

[1:24:00] expenses.

[1:24:01] >> Exactly. Um

[1:24:05] >> can I just say while that wish list or

[1:24:07] not wish list while that list included

[1:24:09] things there may be other things that

[1:24:11] come up that will have to take place of

[1:24:13] some of those items. We've got it today.

[1:24:16] We've got it replace um

[1:24:19] some

[1:24:21] dampers.

[1:24:22] >> Not dampers, the the transformers

[1:24:26] controlling the dampers

[1:24:28] up in the HVAC system, though.

[1:24:31] >> I spoke with him and that 5,000 in our

[1:24:33] budget may cover those things.

[1:24:36] So, he's going to give me a list of what

[1:24:40] potential repairs may be needed for the

[1:24:42] HVAC system, and we'll see if these

[1:24:44] numbers come into alignment there.

[1:24:48] Um,

[1:24:49] okay. with building.

[1:24:52] So to to your question there, um Brian,

[1:24:57] when you get to billing or building, used to have um FICA uh wages

[1:25:05] and insurance in it.

[1:25:07] >> Yep.

[1:25:07] >> Yeah. I was wondering what we were

[1:25:09] looking at.

[1:25:10] >> 4190

[1:25:11] no longer holds those wages information.

[1:25:14] >> Okay. Um, public safety still mostly is

[1:25:18] our sheriff's services from the county.

[1:25:21] Um, fire, the fire wages, fire FICA, and

[1:25:24] fire retirement um are all for the

[1:25:27] volunteer force. None of that funds goes

[1:25:30] to TED.

[1:25:32] Um, fire fuel reduction. Um, this is

[1:25:36] predominantly

[1:25:38] our crew um that we talked about during

[1:25:41] the general plan review.

[1:25:44] >> Um, 4225

[1:25:47] EMS.

[1:25:48] These wages are for our EMTs.

[1:25:52] Um, animal control. Nothing really is

[1:25:55] changing there. Please stop me if you

[1:25:57] have any other questions.

[1:25:58] >> I mean, they do raise it every year.

[1:26:00] >> Yeah, that I have to do stuff to report

[1:26:02] on tonight

[1:26:03] >> for that wage number.

[1:26:06] >> No, that's later in her report.

[1:26:08] >> Okay, perfect. If you if that number

[1:26:10] needs to go up or change.

[1:26:12] >> Yeah, it will. It does change. Okay. Let

[1:26:14] me know.

[1:26:14] >> Oh, the Well, the budget is the budget

[1:26:16] for 2025 is is what the actual is

[1:26:22] >> the actual

[1:26:27] » So, it needs to be 5,000

[1:26:28] >> for the for the shelter. Yeah.

[1:26:30] >> Not the 22200.

[1:26:31] >> Nope. Not the 2200.

[1:26:32] >> So, it needs to be 5,000.

[1:26:34] >> Okay. We'll make sure we can make that

[1:26:37] happen. Thank you. Okay. Roads. Uh so

[1:26:42] this is now 4410.

[1:26:44] Here you can see also we used to have a

[1:26:46] significant portion of wages, FICA and

[1:26:49] retirement as well. Now those are all

[1:26:52] zeros.

[1:26:55] I don't believe there's anything in here

[1:26:57] that's new.

[1:27:03] Um

[1:27:05] sanitation, snow plowing.

[1:27:10] Um, nothing really there. You'll see

[1:27:12] also parks, recreation, and public

[1:27:14] property 4510.

[1:27:17] Uh, those are also where wages, FICA,

[1:27:20] and retirement used to be.

[1:27:26] Um, and then

[1:27:28] >> and that's where you move back 50%, 100%

[1:27:31] whatever to jump a fund out of that out

[1:27:34] of those funds.

[1:27:38] » Um, yes. Yep. Thank you. Okay. So now

[1:27:42] let me give you a new number for your

[1:27:44] papers here on the very last after the

[1:27:47] transfers.

[1:27:48] So that total change in net position.

[1:27:51] >> What number?

[1:27:52] >> It needs to be 49,000.

[1:27:56] >> What total net service that line?

[1:27:58] >> No, that total change in net position

[1:28:00] right there.

[1:28:01] >> Total change in net position.

[1:28:03] >> There's nothing there right now.

[1:28:05] >> Uh flip the page one.

[1:28:08] It's right after 48.90.

[1:28:11] >> Yes. You'll see an ad 3.6 million.

[1:28:16] >> Oh, I see.

[1:28:17] >> 153 351.

[1:28:18] >> Okay. So, which one are we changing?

[1:28:20] >> 49,876

[1:28:24] » for which line?

[1:28:25] >> Right here.

[1:28:26] >> Give us the number.

[1:28:28] >> The one that's circled or the one that's

[1:28:30] underneath the total change position.

[1:28:32] Okay. So, we're crossing out the 153 and

[1:28:34] putting what? $49,876.

[1:28:40] So that is currently what we are above

[1:28:43] our expenses right now between revenue

[1:28:46] and uh

[1:28:50] um revenue and expenses.

[1:28:54] So don't get too excited about that.

[1:28:57] We've got other things that we still are

[1:28:59] waiting on from um a few different

[1:29:04] entities kind of like animal shelter.

[1:29:06] So, we'll wait and find out exactly what

[1:29:08] that

[1:29:09] >> position, but right now everything's

[1:29:11] looking pretty good.

[1:29:13] Um enterprise fund, if you jump in here,

[1:29:16] this is the water fund. There's really

[1:29:19] not much changing here. Um the only

[1:29:22] thing to uh Brian your question there

[1:29:25] for the enterprise fund when it comes to

[1:29:27] wages

[1:29:30] um

[1:29:30] >> what number are we looking at?

[1:29:31] >> 5140

[1:29:33] >> uh 6606.

[1:29:35] >> Okay, we're moving forward.

[1:29:36] >> Yeah, we're jumping ahead. So that's why

[1:29:37] I want to make sure that

[1:29:38] >> No, not not 6606.

[1:29:41] Um

[1:29:43] no, you were right. 6110

[1:29:46] >> 6110. Thank you. So 6110, you're looking

[1:29:50] at 50% of Ted's wages, 0% of Jod's

[1:29:56] wages,

[1:29:57] um 50% of Lor's wages,

[1:30:00] >> 30% of Lor's. No,

[1:30:02] >> 50% of Lor's wages and 50% of Toby's

[1:30:07] wages.

[1:30:07] >> Oh, yeah. Cuz 20 is in sewer, right?

[1:30:10] >> Yep.

[1:30:10] >> Okay. Sorry.

[1:30:11] >> No, you're good.

[1:30:12] >> I just remember.

[1:30:13] >> So, should we put Lori back on the sewer

[1:30:15] page then? She is on%.

[1:30:17] >> She is.

[1:30:19] >> Yes, I know. But should we write it in

[1:30:20] cuz you you kind of just skipped over

[1:30:22] that part. So,

[1:30:23] >> no. Sewer's next.

[1:30:24] >> Oh.

[1:30:25] >> Um, so there are two new line items in

[1:30:28] the enterprise fund I want you guys to

[1:30:30] be aware of.

[1:30:31] >> Mhm.

[1:30:32] >> That is 6605. So, actually go back one

[1:30:35] page. We we jump past it to get to the

[1:30:37] wages.

[1:30:38] >> 6605. Oh,

[1:30:40] >> 6605

[1:30:41] and 6606.

[1:30:43] These are new line items for this year

[1:30:46] and that is a $25,500

[1:30:49] payment and a $5,500

[1:30:52] payment. And those are payments due to

[1:30:55] maturity of leases for I believe that is

[1:30:58] for the chief's truck and what's the

[1:31:01] second vehicle?

[1:31:02] >> Is it the service

[1:31:03] >> service?

[1:31:04] >> And the service truck.

[1:31:06] Um, and so that's why those are sitting

[1:31:09] over here in the in the water fund

[1:31:12] simply because they operate in in both

[1:31:14] general fund capacities and water fund

[1:31:16] capacities.

[1:31:17] >> Okay.

[1:31:21] >> I really like the way this is laid out.

[1:31:24] >> Well, we'll keep getting better.

[1:31:27] If you have any more opportunities for

[1:31:29] improvement, let me know.

[1:31:32] Um, if we jump now, unless you have any

[1:31:35] questions on the water fund,

[1:31:40] uh, there's not much really new or

[1:31:42] different there. Um, if you jump though

[1:31:44] over to the sewer fund, this is now

[1:31:49] going to be

[1:31:53] » and it's behind, but it's 5150. So, it

[1:31:56] got out of order, but it's okay.

[1:31:58] >> Perfect.

[1:31:59] 5150.

[1:32:00] >> Mhm.

[1:32:01] >> The second to last page.

[1:32:03] >> Yeah.

[1:32:03] >> The last two pages.

[1:32:06] >> So 5150.

[1:32:08] >> Yeah.

[1:32:09] >> We're actually going to look at 5110

[1:32:13] 1 0 6110. Sorry.

[1:32:17] >> Yeah.

[1:32:17] >> Um that is 0% of Ted's wages, 0% of

[1:32:22] Jod's wages, 20% of Lor's wages, and 0%

[1:32:25] of Hobe's wages. And the reason we're

[1:32:28] able to break out um each of these wages

[1:32:31] into these three different funds is this

[1:32:33] is where their time basically is

[1:32:35] allocated servicing these different

[1:32:37] funds.

[1:32:38] >> Mhm.

[1:32:39] >> Um and the reason nobody else is really

[1:32:41] in the sewer is there's not much money

[1:32:43] in that account. So we have to be

[1:32:45] somewhat careful. You can see the net number on sewer is 500 or

[1:32:53] holding that

[1:32:55] >> and Lori does the billing for this

[1:32:56] section.

[1:32:57] >> $378,

[1:32:58] >> right? Lori does the billing in that.

[1:33:00] >> She does all the billing. Yes.

[1:33:02] >> Okay.

[1:33:04] So, what I will do next for this budget

[1:33:08] is I'm going to create

[1:33:11] the documents that I talked to you about

[1:33:14] each of you. And each of you I'm going

[1:33:16] to assign a different department and you

[1:33:19] will have the broken out. So the

[1:33:21] itemized pieces.

[1:33:22] >> Oh boy.

[1:33:23] >> And you'll have those once a month um in

[1:33:27] kind of like an envelope on your your

[1:33:29] desk and you'll be able to see where

[1:33:30] we're at in each area. And so you'll see

[1:33:34] when we have an expenditure, if it comes

[1:33:36] in less than the budgeted line item,

[1:33:38] you'll then see the the basic credit

[1:33:40] that we have that we can then reallocate

[1:33:42] to other items when we open budget,

[1:33:44] things like that.

[1:33:45] >> Okay,

[1:33:47] >> cool. So we each get to be a little

[1:33:48] watchdog over a section.

[1:33:50] >> Exactly.

[1:33:51] >> Okay, cool.

[1:33:54] >> And then also we're going to work on

[1:33:56] getting access for each of you in a read

[1:33:58] only capacity on the accounting system.

[1:34:01] So, if you're really interested in that,

[1:34:03] >> we can get you hooked up. If you're not,

[1:34:05] fine. But

[1:34:06] >> I think it would be good to just have

[1:34:08] >> I need to get it and I haven't done it.

[1:34:09] >> I would like to have a little overview

[1:34:11] of it.

[1:34:13] >> Yeah, it'll be

[1:34:16] there is literally nothing to hide in

[1:34:18] any of these numbers. So, ask any

[1:34:20] questions that you want. Okay. Any

[1:34:22] questions on that uh budget?

[1:34:26] >> No, it looks a lot better. It's a lot

[1:34:28] more simplified, easier to understand

[1:34:30] >> and very clear.

[1:34:32] >> Well, it helped with what you guys did

[1:34:35] in the budget process thus far. So,

[1:34:37] thank you.

[1:34:39] >> Uh Brian, any questions there?

[1:34:42] >> No, sir.

[1:34:44] >> Okay. Then we're going to go with Ted

[1:34:46] Mickelson.

[1:34:48] Engine 192 update.

[1:34:52] Oh, sure.

[1:34:53] >> Did you one of the You had no questions

[1:34:55] on any of the other accounts with your

[1:34:57] proposal.

[1:35:01] » All right.

[1:35:02] >> Went over everything.

[1:35:03] >> Didn't hear any.

[1:35:05] >> Did you have any questions?

[1:35:07] >> Just want to make sure you covered it

[1:35:08] totally. If this is your first time

[1:35:10] doing it, make sure I

[1:35:13] >> get it covered completely.

[1:35:15] >> I've been sleeping in the budget for now

[1:35:17] who knows how long. So,

[1:35:21] Uh, engine 192. So, engine 192 was sold.

[1:35:26] >> Uh, thanks to Brian's efforts in all his

[1:35:29] willing and dealing, we got a really

[1:35:31] good price for it. Uh, better, I think,

[1:35:33] than what we had thought we might be

[1:35:35] able to. And it left the city yesterday.

[1:35:38] Uh, you guys probably don't know, you

[1:35:41] may know Dora was the fire chief that

[1:35:43] actually bought that engine. So he got

[1:35:45] to drive it and load it and say goodbye

[1:35:47] and gave it a kiss and a hug and

[1:35:49] everything and

[1:35:51] um so agent 192 left the city yesterday.

[1:35:55] Uh we have been paid for the truck so

[1:35:57] that money now will be set aside for

[1:35:59] upgraded ambulance.

[1:36:01] >> Okay.

[1:36:01] >> Who who bought it? Just out of

[1:36:02] curiosity.

[1:36:03] >> It's a uh Brian, maybe you can better

[1:36:05] answer that. Oh, there you go.

[1:36:08] >> Oh, there we go.

[1:36:12] >> That's why we should put that one in the

[1:36:13] newsletter. That needs to go. Send send

[1:36:16] that to me, Brian.

[1:36:17] >> I I can do that. Well, Doro can send it

[1:36:19] to you. He's want to send it to me.

[1:36:22] Okay. So, um what the truck what what we

[1:36:25] ended up doing is I I went to multiple

[1:36:27] avenues and and worked on pricing and

[1:36:30] things like that. Um there were some companies that um will list it for

[1:36:37] you, kind of like an auto trader type of

[1:36:39] thing, but for fire trucks um they take

[1:36:41] a 10% pop. Um, and I reached out to one

[1:36:46] company is called Command Apparatus out

[1:36:48] of Pennsylvania. And what they do is

[1:36:50] they buy good fire trucks. They take

[1:36:53] them, go through them completely, get

[1:36:55] them re- ready for first line um,

[1:37:00] apparatus. So Ted can explain that a

[1:37:02] first-line apparatus has to be certified

[1:37:05] in the last 10 or 15 years and and

[1:37:09] things like that. And it helps keep our

[1:37:10] your ISO ratings down. Well, they get

[1:37:12] them reertified for that and then they

[1:37:15] resell them to to departments who are

[1:37:17] looking for um used rather than new, but

[1:37:21] new to them. Um and so that's it's going

[1:37:24] to go to another department that can use

[1:37:26] a four-wheel drive engine. Um and it's a

[1:37:30] really good engine. So we we we got a

[1:37:32] good deal out of it. Um and they took

[1:37:35] care of everything. They sent the check.

[1:37:37] We've got it deposited

[1:37:40] and as you can see here, Dorl was was

[1:37:43] able to to send it off with a kiss. Um

[1:37:47] he he had a has he is probably the most

[1:37:51] um

[1:37:52] uh

[1:37:55] attachment to that truck. I mean, it is

[1:37:57] the truck that most of us learned on um

[1:38:00] which does mean a lot to us, but but

[1:38:02] Dorl did drive it back from Florida.

[1:38:03] Spent a lot of time in that truck. So,

[1:38:05] we're I was glad that uh we thought

[1:38:08] about having him take it down to to load

[1:38:10] it up. So, that was a good it was a good

[1:38:12] thing for us.

[1:38:14] >> Thanks for that, Brian. I left a note

[1:38:16] under the passenger seat.

[1:38:20] >> Did you?

[1:38:21] >> Pleading with them to text me the final

[1:38:25] entity where it ends up because I'd like

[1:38:27] to know where it is. It's on the road to

[1:38:29] Pennsylvania right now where this

[1:38:31] company is, but it could end up anywhere

[1:38:33] in the US.

[1:38:35] >> Cool.

[1:38:35] >> And then I'll go get it and bring it

[1:38:37] back.

[1:38:40] » You are attached.

[1:38:44] » Doro is the inevitable buyer of this

[1:38:46] fire truck.

[1:38:48] >> We could have sold it. You know, we

[1:38:50] could have

[1:38:50] >> Do you directly?

[1:38:51] >> I'd had a bigger garage. Yeah.

[1:38:56] » You're still sharing, Brian.

[1:39:01] » Oh, he's getting another.

[1:39:03] >> Oh, he has a note.

[1:39:05] >> That's beautiful.

[1:39:06] >> That's it.

[1:39:09] >> Gee.

[1:39:11] >> Oh, that's great.

[1:39:12] >> I love that.

[1:39:20] » Careful sending Brian stuff. You should

[1:39:22] have put You should have put an Apple

[1:39:24] Air Tag in there. I thought it might my

[1:39:26] Jeep was

[1:39:26] >> Oh, that would have been a good idea.

[1:39:27] >> Then you could have followed it, seen

[1:39:29] where it went.

[1:39:31] >> I trust the new chief will tell me.

[1:39:35] >> Oh, it's beautiful. Thank you.

[1:39:37] >> There were teardrops on that note, so I

[1:39:39] hope that

[1:39:45] » anything else there.

[1:39:47] >> Dan Rhoden should have been with me

[1:39:49] because he rode. Yeah. It was the very

[1:39:52] first Santa on a firet truck was that

[1:39:53] year.

[1:39:54] >> Yeah.

[1:39:55] >> We got the news.

[1:39:55] >> First time the truck came to the city,

[1:39:57] he rode up the hill of Santa.

[1:39:58] >> Yeah.

[1:39:59] >> On the top.

[1:40:00] >> Yeah.

[1:40:00] >> Sweet.

[1:40:02] >> That was sweet.

[1:40:04] How beautiful. Anybody else have

[1:40:06] anything else for the fire truck 192?

[1:40:10] >> Oh, I just think that we should have a

[1:40:12] little article about it with pictures.

[1:40:15] >> I agree.

[1:40:18] >> Okay, then we'll go with number five.

[1:40:20] city grant updates. Um we'll start with

[1:40:23] you, Chief.

[1:40:24] >> Uh so the FEMA grant for our assistant

[1:40:28] firefighter

[1:40:30] uh homeland security um got funded.

[1:40:34] Therefore, FEMA got funded and I got an

[1:40:36] email over the weekend saying we should

[1:40:37] get our grant check for the assistant

[1:40:40] firefighter grant here within the week.

[1:40:42] So we hope to have that one soon

[1:40:44] finally. Okay.

[1:40:45] >> Um so we got funding for that one. Uh,

[1:40:48] we haven't heard from Burgess Owns and

[1:40:50] probably won't for a while on our Wline

[1:40:52] grant. And then the other one we have is

[1:40:54] the Utah Outdoor Recreation Grant for

[1:40:56] the pickle pickle ball court. I'll read

[1:40:58] you an email I got just late this

[1:40:59] afternoon, hot off the press. The Utah

[1:41:03] Division of Outdoor Recreation is

[1:41:04] pleased to inform you that your

[1:41:05] organization Woodland Hills has been

[1:41:07] approved to receive a fiscal year 2026

[1:41:10] community parks and recreation grant.

[1:41:12] >> What?

[1:41:14] >> Are you serious?

[1:41:16] >> That's awesome. So,

[1:41:18] >> that's incredible, guys.

[1:41:20] >> Sherry Burger, did you hear that?

[1:41:23] >> Yeah. Do you have anything to say,

[1:41:24] Sherry? I'll let you talk for this one.

[1:41:26] You did so much work on it.

[1:41:30] » Just a minute.

[1:41:31] >> She's checked out.

[1:41:33] >> She has to unmute her.

[1:41:34] >> Does it Does it give a a value already

[1:41:37] or are they going to

[1:41:38] >> Yeah, they our full request of 83,17750.

[1:41:43] >> Terry probably passed out.

[1:41:49] That's amazing.

[1:41:50] >> So that when will we be able to start

[1:41:52] that then? This this summer.

[1:41:55] >> We have 28 months to use it. We can't

[1:41:58] start until we get our contract signed.

[1:41:59] They'll be sending us a contract within

[1:42:01] the next two weeks to sign. And once we

[1:42:03] sign it and the state signs it, then we

[1:42:04] start using the funds.

[1:42:06] >> And the match will be in kind, right?

[1:42:08] >> Um

[1:42:09] >> or part of it, most

[1:42:10] >> part of it can be inind. And then part

[1:42:12] of it we have some uh balance of funds

[1:42:15] from our snow plow stuff like that we're

[1:42:16] gonna put torches too.

[1:42:18] >> Yay.

[1:42:18] >> But um

[1:42:20] >> since we didn't plow a lot

[1:42:21] >> since we didn't plow we had a lot of uh

[1:42:24] plow money left over that we can put

[1:42:25] some match towards it as well. So

[1:42:28] >> awesome. So we're so it's going to

[1:42:29] happen.

[1:42:30] >> It sounds like it's going to happen.

[1:42:31] >> Sounds like another article.

[1:42:33] >> I know. And and and requesting the the

[1:42:37] volunteer hours.

[1:42:40] Yeah. So anyway, uh that's an update on

[1:42:43] the grants.

[1:42:45] >> That's amazing.

[1:42:49] » Okay,

[1:42:49] >> that

[1:42:51] >> now you just got to get the water one.

[1:42:52] And look at you.

[1:42:54] >> Yeah, that one made me a little wild.

[1:42:56] We've also got a mag one outstanding.

[1:42:58] That one's a little less hopeful for the

[1:42:59] trail.

[1:43:00] >> Yeah,

[1:43:01] >> we're about 19th on a list of 30, so it

[1:43:05] just depends on how far the money we

[1:43:07] they ranked us. Uh well, we did a

[1:43:08] ranking and our project ranked 19th out

[1:43:12] of 30. Uh this this tends to always go

[1:43:15] more towards northern Utah County

[1:43:17] communities because they're experienced

[1:43:18] the higher growth. Um however, it just

[1:43:22] now depends on how far the money goes.

[1:43:23] So they just start with number one and

[1:43:25] they just start allocating the money

[1:43:27] till they run out and we should know by

[1:43:30] 1 of June where that ended up.

[1:43:33] >> Awesome.

[1:43:35] Okay. Well, I mean, get that man a

[1:43:38] helicopter now.

[1:43:41] >> No, that's not what we just

[1:43:45] » that was not in the budget. Sorry.

[1:43:49] >> Okay. Departmental updates. Um,

[1:43:51] community development, public works,

[1:43:53] fire department. Uh, I I don't have a

[1:43:56] lot on the community development, public

[1:43:58] works side. Um, just an FYI, we are

[1:44:00] participating. and I was in a meeting

[1:44:02] today for about 3 hours

[1:44:04] um with all of South Utah County

[1:44:07] municipalities in Central Utah Water

[1:44:08] Conservancy District. Um we are doing as

[1:44:12] a combined group a uh South Utah Valley

[1:44:16] water planning study and it's really

[1:44:19] looking at all of South Utah County out

[1:44:21] to the year 2100

[1:44:23] and what that might look like for water

[1:44:25] planning. Um so we will we're

[1:44:27] participating in that study. It's

[1:44:29] anticipated anticipated to take about a

[1:44:31] year and a half to do this study. So

[1:44:33] pretty comprehensive. Uh the hope is at

[1:44:35] the end of it when we come out of it, we

[1:44:38] actually have action items

[1:44:41] uh for our community out of this list

[1:44:43] that will help us plan for our water

[1:44:46] future. So uh working on that. Um

[1:44:51] I don't know they have a whole lot of

[1:44:52] other updates. We're still uh not

[1:44:55] certain when the paving project will

[1:44:57] start. Uh we kind of put it in their

[1:44:59] court. It'll probably be July when we'll

[1:45:01] start redoing our that phase three of

[1:45:03] the pavement project.

[1:45:06] Um that's all in the community

[1:45:08] development side. And then the fire side

[1:45:10] uh we did meet with I don't I don't know

[1:45:12] if you guys are aware, we've been

[1:45:13] talking with the state about turning one

[1:45:15] of our old still water tanks that we

[1:45:16] haven't used for years into a dip tank.

[1:45:19] Uh we there is a helell attack a fire

[1:45:21] hellet attack crew the state has

[1:45:23] stationed in Spanish fork airport. And

[1:45:26] so we met with the attack crew. We met

[1:45:28] with the state fire warden went up there

[1:45:29] and looked at it and they were just

[1:45:31] loving the idea. Uh it is also one of

[1:45:33] our um mitigation strategies we've had

[1:45:36] on a list for a long time with our CWPP

[1:45:40] uh our community wildfire preparedness

[1:45:42] plan. So we started looking at one of

[1:45:45] the old steel tanks up there uh and

[1:45:47] rather than tear it out, maybe put it to

[1:45:49] use as a dip tank. Uh everyone loved it.

[1:45:51] So I had a uh we had met with an

[1:45:53] engineer up there last week. They're

[1:45:55] going to put us together a little

[1:45:56] proposal just to see what it might take

[1:45:59] and if it is actually something that is

[1:46:01] viable. It's in good enough condition to

[1:46:03] do that. So,

[1:46:04] >> how does that work? Have like a

[1:46:05] retractable top component or

[1:46:07] >> No, really. We would just fill it in the

[1:46:10] uh it would have an open top, not

[1:46:13] closed, and we would fill it in the

[1:46:15] spring and just let the water sit in for

[1:46:17] the summer and then late fall drain it

[1:46:20] before.

[1:46:20] >> But what about leaves and things and

[1:46:23] debris that get in it? That's right.

[1:46:25] >> They're used to dipping out of legs. So,

[1:46:27] some great

[1:46:28] >> just that it fills with sediment. It's

[1:46:30] harder for us to clean up.

[1:46:32] >> So, I would suggest that you put it I

[1:46:34] have one of these on on some propert.

[1:46:36] >> They don't want a top on it at all.

[1:46:37] >> Not even a tarp just to keep

[1:46:39] >> because if they need to get into it,

[1:46:40] they're going to have to do it fast. And if the area is compromised, we won't

[1:46:44] be getting up there with their

[1:46:46] >> So, they don't want to top on it. Um

[1:46:49] >> they don't mind dipping in. I mean, they

[1:46:51] can't dip. So, what we would look at is

[1:46:53] cutting half the tank off and using the

[1:46:55] bottom half.

[1:46:56] >> Um, and they can only dip even about

[1:46:58] half of that half. So,

[1:46:59] >> okay. So,

[1:47:00] >> it's not like what we're saying is we're

[1:47:02] getting a community pool at the same

[1:47:04] time.

[1:47:06] >> And as it drains out, when it drains out

[1:47:10] every year, every every fall, um you're

[1:47:13] going to you're going to

[1:47:15] >> force a lot of that material out of it.

[1:47:17] It's a very large outpour. Um, and so

[1:47:20] it's that turbulence is going to

[1:47:21] actually move a lot of that a lot of

[1:47:23] that

[1:47:24] >> just dump out wherever you slowly go. We

[1:47:29] have some area down in there it can

[1:47:30] catch.

[1:47:30] >> Okay.

[1:47:31] >> Uh without going down the hill to

[1:47:33] residents. Yeah. It' be done over slowly

[1:47:35] over time.

[1:47:35] >> Okay.

[1:47:36] >> Just crack it. Yeah,

[1:47:38] >> this the state's talking about

[1:47:39] participating in this project with us

[1:47:41] and then also uh count it towards some

[1:47:44] of our um costs that we have to put

[1:47:47] towards um cooperative agreement we have

[1:47:49] with the state um that we have to match

[1:47:52] do we have to have some inind uh dollars

[1:47:55] every year and we usually do that with

[1:47:56] chipping or citizen time or whatever our

[1:47:59] wildland crew this would also count

[1:48:01] could count towards that they would give

[1:48:02] us credit for that plus they would help

[1:48:04] participate in the cost if it is used

[1:48:06] you know they would pay for the water

[1:48:07] and that kind of stuff. So, it it's

[1:48:10] really not I think it's a value to our

[1:48:12] community that's a a very low if at any

[1:48:14] cost at all.

[1:48:15] >> Okay.

[1:48:16] >> A little bit of time to fill it and

[1:48:17] empty it.

[1:48:18] >> Yeah. How many gallons? Like do you

[1:48:20] anticipate half of a half of a tank up

[1:48:22] there?

[1:48:23] >> So, the tank is a 200,000 gallon tank.

[1:48:25] So, if we cut it in half and fill it to

[1:48:27] be,000 gallons,

[1:48:28] >> but you're going to cut it but it's you

[1:48:30] cut it in half. You don't fill it all

[1:48:31] the way. You fill half of the half.

[1:48:32] >> No, we would fill it all. fill that half

[1:48:35] so they have a little room to dip and we do have a sediment way for

[1:48:39] sediments to sell out a little bit stuff

[1:48:40] like that

[1:48:41] >> and but but we don't know yet. That's

[1:48:44] kind of what we're looking at with the

[1:48:44] engineers is doesn't can we cut it off

[1:48:47] because you lose some of that structural

[1:48:48] integrity roof off. So

[1:48:50] >> can we cut it off? If we can what level

[1:48:52] should we cut it off?

[1:48:53] >> Um would it require some additional

[1:48:55] reinforcing around it somehow if we do

[1:48:57] that? And is the coatings in good enough

[1:49:00] shape that it's viable without rusty,

[1:49:02] you know, without and the inside of it

[1:49:04] actually we crawled in it. It looked

[1:49:05] really good shape inside. So,

[1:49:07] >> okay.

[1:49:08] >> And you said that um then you would

[1:49:10] negotiate um some sort of a tra tradeoff

[1:49:14] in in funding or they would take off

[1:49:17] some of the assessment that is put on

[1:49:19] our city. Is that what you said?

[1:49:21] >> It go towards some of our match that

[1:49:22] we're required to meet each year. Mhm.

[1:49:25] >> So, if you know, we have an agreement

[1:49:26] with the state. It's called a

[1:49:28] cooperating wildfire uh systems

[1:49:30] agreement.

[1:49:31] >> And what that means is that every year

[1:49:34] our city matches so many dollars um

[1:49:38] towards mitigation work.

[1:49:39] >> That's why we ask residents to tell us

[1:49:42] their clear Yeah. Their hours go towards

[1:49:44] that. Our wild cruise time goes towards

[1:49:46] it. Stuff like that. um this now would

[1:49:50] be one of those that will go towards it

[1:49:51] in turn for us doing this mitigation and meeting these match requirements. If

[1:49:55] we have a fire in our community and the

[1:49:57] state has to come fight that fire, they

[1:49:58] won't charge us for it. So that's what

[1:50:00] that agreement does.

[1:50:01] >> That's great.

[1:50:05] » Wonderful.

[1:50:07] >> So anything else?

[1:50:08] >> No, that's all I got.

[1:50:09] >> You sure?

[1:50:10] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:50:12] >> I think we've had we

[1:50:14] >> wonderful. We've had some good seat time

[1:50:15] tonight.

[1:50:17] I love it.

[1:50:18] >> Planning Commission, code enforcement.

[1:50:19] Wayne,

[1:50:29] » uh just bring the council up to date a

[1:50:31] little bit on some things that uh the

[1:50:34] city

[1:50:36] um is working on. Um we're looking to

[1:50:41] um for lack of another term, annex some

[1:50:44] property. uh through Summit Creek that

[1:50:48] uh is part of Elkridge right now. And uh

[1:50:52] we kind of got off on the wrong foot uh

[1:50:55] process-wise

[1:50:57] and we're doing it the way we thought we

[1:50:59] were supposed to and uh we Jody ran it

[1:51:02] by our attorney and they said, "No,

[1:51:04] you're doing it all wrong." And uh the

[1:51:08] process had started with uh with

[1:51:10] Elkridge and the county as they were

[1:51:14] fine. And so had we continued down that

[1:51:18] path it would have been void and all of

[1:51:20] that would have been for not. So, um,

[1:51:24] what we do with an adjoining city that

[1:51:27] has

[1:51:30] property that is potentially to be

[1:51:32] brought into our city, for example, is a

[1:51:35] boundary adjustment.

[1:51:37] Um, you still have to go through the

[1:51:40] public hearings and things like that.

[1:51:42] So, we're we're going down that road and

[1:51:47] we'll see where that that gets us. both

[1:51:51] cities generally have to agree to uh do

[1:51:54] it and um so

[1:51:55] >> county surveyor

[1:51:56] >> pardon

[1:51:57] >> and the county surveyor also I think

[1:51:59] >> um

[1:52:00] >> that's boundary adjustments they do

[1:52:04] annexations we'll still have to file it

[1:52:07] with them

[1:52:08] >> but this is between the two cities and

[1:52:10] we have to do a municipal

[1:52:14] » boundary adjustment

[1:52:16] >> adjustment on management

[1:52:17] >> because I know that that well never mind

[1:52:20] So anyway, we're working uh we're

[1:52:21] working on that. Uh we'll have a public

[1:52:24] hearing uh next month on the um general

[1:52:29] plan

[1:52:31] and uh the changes that you're

[1:52:34] recommending tonight and kind of

[1:52:36] finalizing that and put it out for on a

[1:52:40] for public hearing. And then we'll uh

[1:52:45] planning commission will take a vote on

[1:52:47] it. then it'll come to the council for a

[1:52:49] vote and once that's completed and these

[1:52:53] by the way don't may not be consensus

[1:52:56] votes. So it's just like everything else

[1:52:58] that that we take votes on majority

[1:53:02] rules. So um there may be parts of it

[1:53:05] that individuals might not agree with

[1:53:08] and that's fine uh whether it's planning

[1:53:12] commission or council but anyway that's

[1:53:15] the that's what we're looking to do. uh

[1:53:17] process-wise with that.

[1:53:20] Um we're also going through a process of

[1:53:24] vacating part of the bottom part of

[1:53:26] Eagle Nest Drive uh for uh Summer Creek.

[1:53:31] This goes back to the development

[1:53:33] agreement that we made with them a

[1:53:35] number of years ago and uh plans to do

[1:53:38] that and they will uh include that then

[1:53:42] as a part of it basically where it ends

[1:53:46] the culdeac that will be part of their

[1:53:48] private road that they uh take through

[1:53:51] their development at this phase of what

[1:53:54] they're working on. So, we've discussed

[1:53:56] that with our attorneys and are

[1:53:59] confident in the process that uh is to

[1:54:02] do that, have a public hearing, it'll um

[1:54:05] it'll come before you as well. Uh but

[1:54:08] we've agreed to do that in the in the

[1:54:10] development agreement. So, those are

[1:54:13] Jod's taken a bulk of the work on that

[1:54:16] and working through the processes and

[1:54:19] putting it together. So, uh just uh it's

[1:54:23] a time thing. Public hearings are

[1:54:25] required. So, that takes time to publish

[1:54:27] those and um and to do them. So, any

[1:54:31] questions on

[1:54:34] any of that?

[1:54:35] Very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh Aaron

[1:54:40] told me he doesn't have anything for us.

[1:54:42] >> Something for us on that

[1:54:46] >> maybe. Okay. What do you got? just that

[1:54:49] um he and I had a meeting with the

[1:54:51] American Red Cross. Did he tell you

[1:54:52] about that?

[1:54:53] >> He did. And we're going to

[1:54:56] >> Yeah, Ted and I are going to talk about

[1:54:57] that and figure out what that might look

[1:55:00] like going forward. So,

[1:55:01] >> okay.

[1:55:02] >> We're not probably ready to

[1:55:04] >> Are we still have the fire drill on the

[1:55:06] day that day or can we at least say

[1:55:09] that?

[1:55:09] >> Yep. We are looking to uh have a

[1:55:13] citywide fire drill. Um we're not

[1:55:16] exactly sure exactly what the scope will

[1:55:18] look like on that. Um I'm have actually

[1:55:20] working with uh Janet and Dan to work on

[1:55:23] the communication portion

[1:55:25] um of how we let the residents know on

[1:55:28] June 20th. Thank you. So

[1:55:31] please everybody look for more

[1:55:32] information on that front. Thank you

[1:55:35] Carrie.

[1:55:36] >> Uh 911 dispatch.

[1:55:39] >> All right.

[1:55:41] >> So mayor I know you're jealous that I

[1:55:43] get to do this. So,

[1:55:44] >> you have three minutes.

[1:55:46] >> Oh, I'll hurry.

[1:55:48] >> Okay. Um,

[1:55:49] >> take the time.

[1:55:50] >> We're in the middle of I've got some

[1:55:52] good stuff tonight. Uh, they're we're in

[1:55:54] the middle of budgeting over there, too.

[1:55:56] And they're going to give 5% raises to

[1:55:59] dispatchers.

[1:56:01] Uh, as an example, American Fork is

[1:56:04] doing 6% raises for all their employees.

[1:56:07] Uh so um but the costs of of dispatching

[1:56:13] is they're they're very competitive.

[1:56:16] There's uh other dispatch centers local

[1:56:19] here. Mapleton Springville's got one,

[1:56:23] Provo's got one, Lehi or I mean Lynen

[1:56:26] and Oram's got one. So anyway, it's

[1:56:29] competitive and and these dispatchers go

[1:56:32] to where they get best and uh we get 75%

[1:56:36] more workload at our dispatch than pro

[1:56:39] does. So uh we vote on the budget this

[1:56:42] Thursday and I'll have details on the on

[1:56:44] the final numbers, but it doesn't look

[1:56:46] like our costs are going to go up very

[1:56:48] much.

[1:56:50] And the good news is is our calls for

[1:56:53] the last two years have gone down. So,

[1:56:56] uh, I was pleased to see that. So, um,

[1:57:00] >> is there a reason?

[1:57:01] >> Well, it's just good. You know, we've

[1:57:03] got behaved citizens and this is

[1:57:05] specific to Woodland Hills.

[1:57:07] >> Oh, for just for Woodland Hills.

[1:57:08] >> All of dispatch calls, just not just

[1:57:10] 911s, but any calls to dispatch has gone

[1:57:13] down actually about hundred since last

[1:57:16] year. So, um,

[1:57:20] so

[1:57:22] I'd like to share with you a an incident

[1:57:26] with our neighbor over in PAC.

[1:57:29] They had a very difficult call and it g

[1:57:32] it'll give you a a feeling for what our

[1:57:35] dispatchers do.

[1:57:38] This was a letter dispatch received from

[1:57:41] the uh PAC Police Department.

[1:57:45] I'd like to share it. Um, I'm writing

[1:57:47] this letter. This is from the police

[1:57:49] department, the Corporal White from the

[1:57:52] Pac City Police Department. I'm writing

[1:57:55] this letter to express my appreciation

[1:57:57] for the level of professionalism and

[1:57:59] empathy shown by dispatcher Heather Burr

[1:58:02] on March 25th, 2026 for a suicidal male

[1:58:06] calling into dispatch on Salem case.

[1:58:11] PAC officers responded to assist due to

[1:58:14] the vague information. the caller was

[1:58:16] providing. And upon conducting the

[1:58:19] investigation, the patient disclosed

[1:58:22] that they had intended to arrest the

[1:58:24] officers upon their arrival in an

[1:58:26] attempt to force the officers to commit

[1:58:28] suicide by cop.

[1:58:31] The patient advised that while speaking

[1:58:34] with dispatch on the phone, the male had

[1:58:37] been convinced to change his mind from

[1:58:39] the empathetic tone

[1:58:42] and communication provided by dispatcher

[1:58:44] Burr. Heather Burr was in the in the

[1:58:48] room at the meeting took to honor her.

[1:58:50] The patient

[1:58:53] instead opted to seek needed help and

[1:58:56] was compliant with the officers while on

[1:58:58] scene.

[1:58:59] Oh,

[1:59:00] >> now imagine how the police felt about

[1:59:03] that. They get to go home having a

[1:59:06] better day because of the way she

[1:59:07] helped. And so this letter ends, this is

[1:59:10] a statement to the exemplary performance

[1:59:13] exhibited

[1:59:14] by Central Utah Dispatch

[1:59:18] and specifically dispatcher Burr for

[1:59:20] this incident. We officers appreciate

[1:59:23] the dedication you have shown to the

[1:59:25] citizens of Utah County and the

[1:59:28] assistance provided to us. Keep up the

[1:59:30] good work and thank you. Um

[1:59:34] kind of gives an illustration of the

[1:59:35] type of work these dispatchers do and

[1:59:39] not everyone's cut out to be a

[1:59:40] dispatcher. So when we find a good one,

[1:59:44] um

[1:59:45] >> retention.

[1:59:46] >> Yeah. Yeah. We want to keep them. And um

[1:59:49] so and they've got a lot of good ones

[1:59:51] down there. I've met many of them. We've

[1:59:53] toured the facility several times and we should we should take the council

[1:59:57] down there and tour that place. You'll

[2:00:00] get a real impressive feeling of of of

[2:00:03] where your 911 calls go to. So I would

[2:00:06] encourage us to plan that sometime. I'd

[2:00:09] be glad to help us out.

[2:00:10] >> I love your reports, Darl.

[2:00:12] >> Thank you.

[2:00:13] >> And please express our gratitude.

[2:00:15] >> Yeah.

[2:00:15] >> To them for the good work they are

[2:00:17] doing. Um, how have you have any of you

[2:00:22] been able to tour 911?

[2:00:24] >> I have. I have several times. I haven't.

[2:00:27] >> You haven't, Janet?

[2:00:28] >> Oh, you have you haven't.

[2:00:30] >> Brian, have you been to dispatch?

[2:00:32] >> Many times.

[2:00:34] >> Okay. Um, my I don't know about Steve,

[2:00:38] but if you would be willing to set that

[2:00:40] up, Dor.

[2:00:40] >> Okay. I think that would be a valuable

[2:00:42] asset, especially if we could coordinate

[2:00:44] it with maybe something with Sergeant

[2:00:46] Dudson and coordinating there.

[2:00:48] >> Okay.

[2:00:49] >> Maybe go tour the jail or something

[2:00:50] along those lines while we're out there.

[2:00:52] Thank you.

[2:00:56] » Okay, so mayor and city council reports.

[2:01:01] Um, this should be fun. a reminder that

[2:01:04] we will, you know, let's try and keep

[2:01:06] those

[2:01:07] >> five minutes, or less so that we can

[2:01:10] though, we're actually doing pretty

[2:01:11] good, but let's still we're making good progress here. Let's

[2:01:16] see if I can keep my own rule here. Um,

[2:01:19] for MAG and COG, we've had a number of

[2:01:21] different meetings. As Ted highlighted,

[2:01:23] a lot of our meetings lately have been

[2:01:25] focused on uh the distribution of MAG

[2:01:28] potential grants. Um, as Ted said, we

[2:01:31] are 19th out of 30. um for the mag trail

[2:01:35] that we are looking to to have up within

[2:01:37] he'll drive. Um

[2:01:41] I maybe am a little overly optimistic on

[2:01:43] that more so than Ted. Um but so

[2:01:46] hopefully I'm win and not you.

[2:01:48] >> Hey, we're on a streak.

[2:01:50] >> I I appreciate that. Um I think we've

[2:01:53] got

[2:01:55] >> Well, it all comes down. They've said

[2:01:57] that they might split the projects into

[2:02:00] street projects and trail projects which

[2:02:03] may help us quite a bit because I think

[2:02:06] >> we're fifth on the trail. It's about

[2:02:07] eight so we're still

[2:02:10] >> so who knows but that's what we've been

[2:02:13] focusing a lot on with Mag um and Cog.

[2:02:16] Um we've also been going through a lot

[2:02:18] of

[2:02:20] um discussions around especially with

[2:02:23] the budgetary cycle right now. What is

[2:02:25] everybody doing compensationwise? How is

[2:02:27] people treating how are different

[2:02:30] administrations treating their people?

[2:02:31] What are those types of raises? Things

[2:02:33] like that. Um for SCSD, we had a board I

[2:02:37] had a resource meeting yesterday and I

[2:02:39] had a

[2:02:41] board meeting today. Um

[2:02:45] there is some interesting things going

[2:02:47] as to resource capture. Our people at

[2:02:51] SCSD

[2:02:53] are impressive. Um, they do such a great

[2:02:57] job. Um, we have exquisite staff there,

[2:03:00] but the the leadership at SCSD

[2:03:04] is really moving right now. They have a

[2:03:08] potential new contract that is coming

[2:03:10] that they are trying to negotiate that

[2:03:12] will hopefully be able to help us secure

[2:03:16] uh continued rates instead of increased

[2:03:18] rates. So, we're hoping to be able to do

[2:03:21] well there. This things have been a

[2:03:23] little weird because we have hit our

[2:03:25] we're starting to hit our peak months

[2:03:27] faster due to the lack of snow. Um, and

[2:03:31] we had lower consumption during the

[2:03:33] winter than usual due to those warmer

[2:03:35] temperatures

[2:03:36] >> running the last couple days, which is

[2:03:37] wild.

[2:03:38] >> Amen. It is. It is crazy. And we're

[2:03:41] seeing that um we've been able to

[2:03:45] negotiate a few different contracts with

[2:03:47] a few people or few power suppliers

[2:03:52] um that hopefully will lock us in at a

[2:03:55] much better rate for those peak hours

[2:03:57] and during the peak season. um which

[2:04:00] should help us be able to keep rates at

[2:04:02] the same. So we have no intention of

[2:04:03] running a truth and taxation there on

[2:04:05] rate increases which is always so good

[2:04:08] news. Um nothing really new for the

[2:04:11] transfer station.

[2:04:12] Um but for a legal update, I did want to make a comment more than actual an

[2:04:18] update because there's not much that has

[2:04:22] changed legally. Um though we have had a hearing date um for our state appeal

[2:04:32] dismissal case as well as our vexacious

[2:04:36] um claim against in to against them. Um

[2:04:42] and so hopefully that will go well for

[2:04:44] us. Um but I wanted to make a comment.

[2:04:47] There was a post from Anonymous on their

[2:04:50] Facebook page and they and they made a

[2:04:52] comment that I'd like to

[2:04:56] give a little bit of a of a counter

[2:04:58] comment to

[2:05:00] and it's so it says this number three in

[2:05:04] their in their long post. Legal costs

[2:05:07] without clear context. March alone

[2:05:10] included approximately 22,000 in legal

[2:05:12] expenses involving multiple legal teams.

[2:05:17] While legal costs can vary, there are no

[2:05:19] clear public breakdown or historical

[2:05:21] context provided during the meeting.

[2:05:24] Residents should be able to understand

[2:05:28] and then it's four three bullet points

[2:05:30] what these costs relate to, whether they

[2:05:33] are increasing and how they compare

[2:05:36] year-over-year.

[2:05:38] Um it is true that there are multiple

[2:05:42] entities involved. Um a lot of that has

[2:05:45] to do with the fact that

[2:05:47] most of the legal issues we've dealt

[2:05:50] with have been land used issues which

[2:05:52] are typically not something that is

[2:05:54] litigated the way this has been. Um thus

[2:05:57] insurance no longer is carrying for

[2:06:00] those particular cases and that is why

[2:06:03] our legal fees have increased. uh we

[2:06:07] believe we may be able to look at

[2:06:09] potential strategies on that front. Um

[2:06:12] but one of the reasons that I wanted to

[2:06:14] highlight here is when we do provide

[2:06:19] legal updates um with a great degree of

[2:06:22] clarity, there tends to be legal

[2:06:25] retribution.

[2:06:27] So on

[2:06:30] um actually I don't know the date. This

[2:06:32] is February 25th. We had um is that when

[2:06:37] that amendment was filed? 225. Is that

[2:06:41] what that means?

[2:06:43] >> Well, likely

[2:06:44] >> earlier this year there was a second

[2:06:47] amended complaint filed um in the Fugia

[2:06:51] versus Woodland Hills and many others.

[2:06:56] And this is an amendment um and this is

[2:06:59] kind of what it states when they are

[2:07:02] litigating me personally. And I'm saying

[2:07:04] this not to make bring pity to to me or

[2:07:07] any of the other staff that have been

[2:07:09] personally called into this litigation,

[2:07:12] but for the reasons of why we may not

[2:07:15] always give full clarity around the

[2:07:17] legal situation going on in the city.

[2:07:19] Because one, we have a narrative that is

[2:07:24] not necessarily articulating

[2:07:26] um in my opinion an integral uh view of

[2:07:30] what is going on. But this is what the

[2:07:32] amended claim now is saying about a

[2:07:34] statement I read in February 10th due to

[2:07:37] a request for higher legal transparency.

[2:07:40] It says, "As mayor, Hillyard on February

[2:07:43] 10th, 2026 broadcast to $520 city

[2:07:47] households a $6,500

[2:07:50] per household cost figure for settlement

[2:07:53] of this litigation that he subsequently

[2:07:56] admitted had no documentary basis. There

[2:07:59] are no records documenting this uh

[2:08:02] calculation and he is quoting an email

[2:08:04] that I sent to a resident requesting a

[2:08:06] grammar for that calculation. Um

[2:08:09] selectioning among undocumented figures

[2:08:14] city recorder stones carbon copied on

[2:08:16] Hillyard's written admission took no

[2:08:19] corrective action. Now this is them

[2:08:22] claiming that we are hiding information

[2:08:24] um which is a falsity. What we are

[2:08:27] saying is there is no record quantifying

[2:08:30] this calculation because basically

[2:08:33] >> it's simple math.

[2:08:35] >> I rendered them the numbers in our head

[2:08:37] with a calculator on my phone, right? We

[2:08:40] added the two different uh the smallest

[2:08:44] which is also uh changed a little bit

[2:08:48] here in these amended complaints. um the

[2:08:51] smallest numbers of both potential

[2:08:55] uh claims that have been filed against

[2:08:57] the city divided by the number of

[2:08:59] resident homes in the city and that's

[2:09:01] where the number came from. And so there

[2:09:03] is a constant fabrication or

[2:09:05] exaggeration or manipulation of our

[2:09:08] words. And thus the legal updates we're

[2:09:10] trying to keep as factual as possible

[2:09:12] because we're not trying to weaponize

[2:09:14] anything, but they are this is the funds

[2:09:17] of the city of Wooden Hills, which is a

[2:09:19] collective sum of our residents. It's

[2:09:21] their money. Um, as I have spent so much

[2:09:25] time going over the budget uh with the

[2:09:27] staff, with the finance committee twice

[2:09:30] and the council, we hold these funds

[2:09:33] sacred. Um, the expenditure of them we

[2:09:36] try not to to do without careful

[2:09:40] consideration. And so when these

[2:09:43] allegations are made, part of the reason

[2:09:46] we don't necessarily go into these

[2:09:48] details is due to the retaliation that

[2:09:50] we get. And thus, I sometimes feel these

[2:09:53] are statements of somewhat of an

[2:09:55] entrapment, getting us to say things

[2:09:57] that they can use out of context to thus

[2:09:58] increase their litigation against the

[2:10:00] city, increasing the costs of the city.

[2:10:02] Um, and so I just wanted to give that

[2:10:05] legal update and a little bit of context

[2:10:06] to uh the narrative that is being

[2:10:09] propagated um on social media. there

[2:10:12] will be more now because you

[2:10:14] >> of course I made this comment now it'll

[2:10:16] be back out there but I did want to at

[2:10:18] least put in those two cents and they

[2:10:20] have the freedom of speech and I'd never

[2:10:22] want to remove that. So um with that

[2:10:25] being said though I'd like to move to

[2:10:27] council member Hutchings

[2:10:30] for SUVMWA and Mount Nebo Water.

[2:10:36] >> So now I got to follow that. I

[2:10:37] appreciate it

[2:10:39] >> every single time because you're always

[2:10:41] after me, brother.

[2:10:44] >> Okay, for SUVA or South Utah Valley

[2:10:46] Municipal Water Association, we we met

[2:10:49] with both of these associations

[2:10:50] yesterday. Um I was able to get them to

[2:10:54] start uh broadcasting those as an online

[2:10:57] so I'm able to attend those when I'm out

[2:10:58] of town. Um we are the it was a work

[2:11:02] session for Sumba. Um and a couple of

[2:11:06] the items that we work through, one is

[2:11:09] the attorney um that used to cover SUMBA

[2:11:12] is no longer with patient city. So we're

[2:11:14] working to find attorney coverage. Um

[2:11:17] the uh finance financial group that

[2:11:20] covered strong and that had had done

[2:11:23] representation for SUVA has retired and

[2:11:28] so he's done it for decades and so

[2:11:32] they're looking for someone new. I

[2:11:33] actually uh talked with Charlene and

[2:11:36] she's interested and and I proposed her

[2:11:38] name. Um they're going to get through

[2:11:41] the this fiscal year and the new budget

[2:11:44] with help from uh PAC city and then

[2:11:47] we're going to look at at proposals and

[2:11:51] she will be on that. She said when I

[2:11:53] talked to her she said it was it fit

[2:11:55] right into the kind of thing that she's

[2:11:57] looking for. um and the technical

[2:12:01] committee which I had um actually

[2:12:04] nominated Ted to help chair with Brady

[2:12:07] Wild from Salem. Um

[2:12:11] and Ted dodged a big bullet there and

[2:12:13] Brady and and now I've forgotten the

[2:12:16] name are are going to be taking care of

[2:12:18] that technical committee. So I've told

[2:12:20] Ted just as long as he's there to to uh

[2:12:23] to mentor them, mentor the new young

[2:12:25] kids and and help them through this. Um

[2:12:27] Ted's super experienced with this kind

[2:12:29] of thing, but Sumba actually is is one

[2:12:32] of the lesser of the the groups that I

[2:12:34] feel like that that I attend their

[2:12:36] meetings. Um and and um more of it is

[2:12:41] the Mount Nebo. Mount Nebo is much more

[2:12:44] uh complex in in what they're doing. So

[2:12:47] I'll move on to Mount Nebo. Um again, we

[2:12:49] had the meeting yesterday and the big

[2:12:52] part of that meeting, the the largest

[2:12:54] part of that meeting was going over the

[2:12:55] groundwater model. Um, they put a lot of

[2:12:58] information into this TED. If you

[2:13:00] haven't seen it yet, um, I'm trying to

[2:13:01] get a copy of it so we can pass it on

[2:13:03] and we can really see what they've been

[2:13:06] putting together. Put a lot of money

[2:13:07] into this ground uh, groundwater model

[2:13:09] update and um,

[2:13:13] then kind of went through kind of how

[2:13:16] this thing is laid out. It's a little

[2:13:17] bit different and and how they're putting those things together.

[2:13:20] Um, really really interesting. I'll try

[2:13:22] to get that for everybody to look at.

[2:13:25] Um, one of the things that they are are

[2:13:28] looking at is uh the 2027 database and

[2:13:33] managing that. Um, so we're probably

[2:13:36] going to see some um some more

[2:13:40] fees. I don't know that it's going to be

[2:13:41] any more than we were before. Um, but

[2:13:44] there there is some maintaining of that

[2:13:47] system um that's going to come out. So,

[2:13:50] we'll see that coming through. Um, we

[2:13:52] got a um, presentation from the water

[2:13:56] commissioner at Vidmar for the 2026

[2:13:59] water year. Not looking so fantastic,

[2:14:01] folks. And we all know that. Um, they

[2:14:05] did uh,

[2:14:08] review and and put the tenative budget

[2:14:10] together and voted on that. Um, and then

[2:14:13] talked a little bit about some um,

[2:14:17] future meetings. And one of the things

[2:14:18] that they talked about, and I'll get

[2:14:20] more information as this comes out, is

[2:14:22] last year they had a special meeting

[2:14:24] around July 1st, and they're looking at

[2:14:26] doing it again. And what they want to do

[2:14:28] is they want to present with local,

[2:14:30] state, and federal uh elected officials,

[2:14:33] and they're looking at doing that in

[2:14:34] Spanish at the library. Um, so expect an

[2:14:38] invite somewhere around July 1st for

[2:14:41] everyone on that. Um and so they want to

[2:14:44] do some some presentations with with all

[2:14:47] the elect as many elected officials as

[2:14:48] they can um including uh council people

[2:14:51] on that. Um

[2:14:53] >> did you say that's m July 1st for all of

[2:14:55] us? That's a set date right now.

[2:14:58] >> It is not it's just proposed. So they're they're working out the the

[2:15:02] finals and I'll get that information to

[2:15:04] you, but expect it right there. Um and one of the things they're looking at

[2:15:09] is the the southern Utah County water

[2:15:11] demands and the infrastructure when the

[2:15:14] new um

[2:15:17] uh when the new uh treatment center

[2:15:21] because that's been put off when that is

[2:15:23] going to be needed and and things like

[2:15:25] that into the future. So kind of look

[2:15:27] forward to that and I'll do my best to

[2:15:29] attend it if you're not able to make it

[2:15:31] and and give a report um to that. One of

[2:15:34] the things that we talked about kind of

[2:15:36] in both meetings more in the Mount Nebo

[2:15:39] um and we all know we're in in a tough

[2:15:41] year, right, for water. Um and one of

[2:15:45] the things that they talked about was uh

[2:15:48] kind of strike when the iron is hot. Um

[2:15:51] everybody is more open to water

[2:15:54] conservation, water restrictions right

[2:15:57] now because everybody knows how

[2:15:59] difficult our water year has been and

[2:16:01] our lower snow pack has been. So, um I

[2:16:04] had talked to Ted previously and I'm

[2:16:06] going to going to recommend to the mayor

[2:16:08] and Ted that we uh look at some

[2:16:12] conservation efforts uh sooner than

[2:16:15] later and and like we talked about going

[2:16:17] through the the general plan that that

[2:16:19] people have a tendency to use more water

[2:16:21] during drought years. And so now is a

[2:16:24] time for us to to push some conservation

[2:16:27] efforts. um maybe get the the our our

[2:16:31] PIO involved and and get some things out

[2:16:34] on social media and and let's see if we

[2:16:37] can do some conservation because we're

[2:16:39] in for a tough year. It's not going to

[2:16:41] affect us near as much as some other

[2:16:43] cities. Um actually Strawberry, their

[2:16:46] bank levels are doing really well, but

[2:16:49] they're concerned. They're still

[2:16:51] concerned. Everybody's quite concerned

[2:16:53] about the water. So, um I I think some

[2:16:55] conservation efforts um coming from our

[2:16:59] city um at least recommend high

[2:17:01] recommendations if not um restrictions

[2:17:04] would be a good time to do that for us.

[2:17:08] So, that's my report. Thank you.

[2:17:11] >> Thank you, Council Member Hutchkins. I

[2:17:14] failed to uh acknowledge the absence of

[2:17:17] council member John's earlier. Um but he

[2:17:20] is unable to uh join us and so he has

[2:17:24] been excused. Um council member Lund

[2:17:28] um well you can see on there I didn't

[2:17:30] have anything specifically but

[2:17:33] um we have our new co-chairs for

[2:17:36] Woodland Hills Days and um we had some

[2:17:41] good name suggestions. We had quite a

[2:17:43] few, but one thing that we heard from a

[2:17:45] lot of people is that we really wanted

[2:17:47] to get some participation from Summit

[2:17:49] Creek. That's something that we've

[2:17:51] really lacked in some of our major

[2:17:52] events. Um, so I bravely texted Tim and

[2:17:56] Hillary Weeks last night cuz I had just

[2:17:59] gotten home from my trip and they said, "Yeah, we're going to be in

[2:18:03] the car driving in 20 minutes. Give us a

[2:18:05] call." So I did and they didn't even

[2:18:07] have to think about it. they already had

[2:18:09] ideas and they said yes immediately. So,

[2:18:13] hey, Hillary had said, "We'll think

[2:18:14] about it. We'll call you tomorrow." And

[2:18:16] she goes, "You know what? We're just

[2:18:17] going to commit right now. We're both

[2:18:19] looking at each other nodding our heads.

[2:18:20] Yes." So, um anyway, so I'm excited.

[2:18:23] They have some good ideas. I talked to

[2:18:26] them about wanting to incorporate the

[2:18:28] 250 years celebration into Woodland

[2:18:30] Hills Days. And so, um, they were really

[2:18:34] excited about that and they were going

[2:18:35] to start brainstorming and we're going

[2:18:36] to have our first official meeting May

[2:18:38] 27th. So, we'll get everybody together,

[2:18:41] get rolling.

[2:18:43] >> Wonderful.

[2:18:44] >> And Dan's helping with all that. And I

[2:18:46] picked the people without asking, but he

[2:18:47] knew the names. I

[2:18:48] >> Yes,

[2:18:49] >> he knew the names and he didn't object

[2:18:50] to the names. I just called them and

[2:18:53] picked them. So, anyway, um, yeah,

[2:18:56] that's all.

[2:18:57] >> Well, wonderful. Uh, Council Member

[2:18:59] Malovich.

[2:19:00] >> Yes. with the animal shelter. Um like

[2:19:03] every other entity doing their budget.

[2:19:06] So we passed the budget today. Um

[2:19:08] participation fees are based on each

[2:19:11] city's share of total animal intake.

[2:19:14] When one city experiences an increase in

[2:19:16] animals, their percentage and cost

[2:19:17] rises. Conversely, decreases in another

[2:19:20] shift city shift percentages across all

[2:19:22] participants. Animal numbers are the

[2:19:25] previous full calendar year. So they

[2:19:28] gave us the intake of and the money that

[2:19:30] is allocated to that. Ours went up

[2:19:33] significantly. So it is at $4,967

[2:19:39] now. Um

[2:19:40] >> the year before we only had like one or

[2:19:42] something.

[2:19:42] >> We have 12. We have 12 animals. That's

[2:19:44] been the last the last couple of years

[2:19:45] we've had about 12. Um,

[2:19:47] >> okay.

[2:19:48] >> But, um, I brought up that this was not

[2:19:51] Oh, well, myself and, uh, Councilman

[2:19:54] Oiler from Spanish Fork brought up that

[2:19:57] this system is not a very good

[2:19:59] allocation of or assessment. The formula

[2:20:02] is not. Um, we're wanting to look, it's

[2:20:05] too late for this year cuz they've

[2:20:08] already put the budget numbers according

[2:20:09] to Lee, but maybe changing that formula

[2:20:13] um, based on the class of city instead

[2:20:16] of just the number of animals that are

[2:20:18] taken in. Because when we did that, when

[2:20:21] I did the math for them and let them

[2:20:23] know that our allocation for Woodland

[2:20:25] Hills is $414 per animal.

[2:20:29] >> Oh, yeah. But for Provo, theirs is only

[2:20:33] using the same formula. Theirs is only

[2:20:36] $170 per animal.

[2:20:39] So their formula is is not quite

[2:20:43] accurate in how they were how they were

[2:20:46] assessing the number of animals that are

[2:20:48] picked up based on the city size. So, we

[2:20:51] uh Councilman Oiler and I are going to

[2:20:52] work on this for next year that we can

[2:20:56] maybe have a little bit more of um some

[2:20:58] equity equality in in how that

[2:21:01] percentage is done. They didn't even

[2:21:04] recognize that it was so skewed.

[2:21:08] And

[2:21:08] >> was there any calculation involved that

[2:21:10] maybe people in the cities were dropping

[2:21:12] off their animals into us rural cities?

[2:21:15] >> Um Gan is for sure. I I just came from

[2:21:19] Go Town Council. That's

[2:21:21] >> the mayor was there today and he said we

[2:21:23] know for sure some of the stuff that we

[2:21:25] were that was allocated for us. And so

[2:21:29] when an when an animal is picked up on

[2:21:32] its in, you know, on the border or

[2:21:35] whatever, it has to uh has to go is

[2:21:39] negotiating on some of their animals. We

[2:21:41] only have 12 and they can when the it's

[2:21:44] picked up and it says the street is in

[2:21:46] the middle of Woodland Hills. Um I we're

[2:21:49] probably

[2:21:51] I don't know

[2:21:53] how why are these animals are picked up

[2:21:56] or not picked up, you know, whatever.

[2:21:58] But um hopefully we can get that changed

[2:22:01] because I did not feel that that was a

[2:22:03] very very good thing. Now in addition to

[2:22:06] that, so that's the budget going

[2:22:08] forward. Um and it was passed today. We

[2:22:12] also passed another document that um Dor

[2:22:15] will probably appreciate. Um

[2:22:18] >> last lady.

[2:22:19] >> Yeah. So today we approved the South

[2:22:21] Valley Animal Shelters

[2:22:23] community cat and TNVR policy. Remember

[2:22:27] TNRV is trapneuter vaccinate and return

[2:22:32] um or community cat program. And so I

[2:22:34] will um email you all this, but

[2:22:37] basically it's um under code Utah code

[2:22:41] 1146301

[2:22:44] um a local government may choose to

[2:22:48] authorize a community cap program

[2:22:50] through our own ordinances. But then it

[2:22:52] outlines the the specifics between

[2:22:55] ourselves,

[2:22:57] a rescue organization, and the shelter

[2:23:00] to what each one would be responsible

[2:23:02] for or not responsible for. Does not say

[2:23:04] that we need to do that. It's just a

[2:23:06] choice that each city would have, but I

[2:23:09] will email you the the final version

[2:23:11] that we approved today as well as then

[2:23:14] the budget.

[2:23:16] >> Wonderful. Okay. Thank you much. Uh,

[2:23:19] Council Member Rhden. Um, no, just in

[2:23:22] support of

[2:23:24] um,

[2:23:26] Councilwoman Blunt

[2:23:30] uh, around Golden Hills Days. Um, and

[2:23:33] then also you and I have discussed about

[2:23:35] a broader scope of educating residents

[2:23:38] on just kind of the events that we do

[2:23:41] support and host as a city and hopefully

[2:23:44] more

[2:23:44] >> advertising of them regularly. Maybe

[2:23:47] not. You know, I I'm actually surprised

[2:23:50] on some of the ones you when you and I

[2:23:51] had a conversation. So, working on that.

[2:23:54] Um, and then the other piece too for you

[2:23:57] um

[2:23:59] is I'm building an application to better

[2:24:02] manage uh Woodland Hill stays. So, as we

[2:24:05] transfer from chair to chair to chair,

[2:24:07] they'll actually have a software to help

[2:24:09] manage contacts, tasks, all those type

[2:24:12] of things to better hopefully. Yeah,

[2:24:14] because right now we're just kind of

[2:24:15] >> right now it's it's banners. It's it's a

[2:24:17] bunch of binders and

[2:24:20] >> you know things of that notes,

[2:24:21] handwritten notes, spreadsheets, Google

[2:24:23] Docs. So, um going to build a little

[2:24:26] >> more consistency,

[2:24:28] >> help manage it. And then we'll have a

[2:24:30] mobile component as well, so they can be

[2:24:32] able to manage it on the go.

[2:24:33] >> Awesome.

[2:24:34] >> So, um but I'll we'll probably use this

[2:24:37] year as an opportunity to do that

[2:24:38] knowledge transfer and see what needs to

[2:24:40] go over and what content needs to be in

[2:24:42] there. Callie's did send an email. I'll

[2:24:44] find it and forward it to YouTube where

[2:24:46] they kind of had all that information.

[2:24:48] So, I'll find it. I'm trying to think

[2:24:50] where it was. It might be in a text,

[2:24:52] >> like a link to a Google doc or

[2:24:54] something.

[2:24:54] >> Yeah, exactly.

[2:24:55] >> I'll see if I can find it and get it to

[2:24:57] you.

[2:24:57] >> We just want to put it more in our

[2:24:58] encapsulated with with the city rather

[2:25:00] than in random Google Docs all over.

[2:25:03] >> Yep.

[2:25:04] >> I'm working on that one, too. So,

[2:25:05] >> beautiful. Thank you.

[2:25:09] >> Okay. Um, any items for any upcoming

[2:25:12] city council meetings?

[2:25:15] >> We talked about some last time. They're

[2:25:17] still coming up. So, strategic plan is

[2:25:20] one of those.

[2:25:20] >> Strategic plan is one of them.

[2:25:22] >> But we do have a public hearing next

[2:25:25] week

[2:25:26] for the bond.

[2:25:29] >> Yes. Next council meeting.

[2:25:30] >> Next council meeting.

[2:25:31] >> I was going to say I have a meeting. We

[2:25:33] have meeting next week. Yes, we do have

[2:25:36] for that bond. Um,

[2:25:39] >> we should be receiving hopefully some of

[2:25:41] those documents uh shortly.

[2:25:46] Anything else, Michael? Or not Michael.

[2:25:48] if you have one, that'd be

[2:25:49] great. Uh, Brian,

[2:25:53] » nothing right now. Um, I'll work with uh

[2:25:57] with Wayne when I actually get back into

[2:25:59] town on that uh uh ordinance that I was

[2:26:03] working on.

[2:26:04] >> Wonderful. Okay. Thank you.

[2:26:08] >> So, next we need to work on a grant for

[2:26:11] the playground.

[2:26:13] >> Hey,

[2:26:16] » right toilet.

[2:26:18] >> Toilet. Mark.

[2:26:19] >> Yeah, we need a toilet. We need a trail.

[2:26:22] >> Increase and increase security with the

[2:26:25] toilet.

[2:26:28] » Exactly. That'll be fun. That was one of

[2:26:30] the problems that we had when we didn't

[2:26:31] put it in originally because we didn't

[2:26:33] have enough law enforcement to be able

[2:26:35] to make sure that

[2:26:37] >> becomes a little drug hub.

[2:26:38] >> Mhm. And that's why or other things. And

[2:26:42] so we just need to make sure that

[2:26:44] >> those things happen there. Anyway,

[2:26:45] >> we have some we have some security in

[2:26:48] place for our residents

[2:26:49] >> and our little circles. This might be a

[2:26:52] good opportunity to remind the public

[2:26:55] that there are cameras throughout the

[2:26:58] city and and one of those is at the park

[2:27:02] >> and so it is being surveiled so you may

[2:27:06] want to just keep that in mind.

[2:27:08] >> Tell your teenagers there on cameras

[2:27:10] everywhere.

[2:27:11] >> Okay, then we will take uh what are we

[2:27:13] at here? Why can't we ever end like 5

[2:27:16] minutes to 8:30?

[2:27:18] >> I don't know.

[2:27:18] >> We will end now. We'll take a break till

[2:27:21] 8:35.

[2:27:31] » Okay, Brian, can you hear us?

[2:27:34] >> Yes, sir.

[2:27:36] >> Perfect. Okay, then I'd like to call

[2:27:38] this city council meeting to order. Uh,

[2:27:40] we are going to have an invocation from

[2:27:42] Council Member Rhoden and a pledge of

[2:27:44] allegiance from Council Member Malovich.

[2:27:51] Father, we're thankful for the

[2:27:52] opportunity to meet u together as city

[2:27:54] council and mayor and supporting staff

[2:27:57] to u

[2:28:00] do the work of this wonderful community.

[2:28:03] We're thankful for the opportunity to

[2:28:05] serve. We pray for our community and its

[2:28:07] unique needs and our people. We pray

[2:28:10] that we'll be mindful of them and that

[2:28:12] um we can be judicious and educated

[2:28:16] about how we go about this city

[2:28:18] business. And this we pray for in Jesus

[2:28:20] name. Amen.

[2:28:22] >> Amen.

[2:28:22] >> Everybody would please rise and repeat.

[2:28:27] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the

[2:28:31] United States of America and to the

[2:28:34] republic for which it stands. One nation

[2:28:38] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[2:28:42] justice for all.

[2:28:48] » Thank you both. I'd like to open the

[2:28:51] public comment. Um, public comments are

[2:28:53] limited to two minutes per individual

[2:28:55] unless otherwise directed. Um, comments

[2:28:58] submitted by email must be received by

[2:29:00] 300 p.m. on the day of the meeting. to

[2:29:03] be included in the official record.

[2:29:04] Emmailed comments will not be read aloud

[2:29:07] during the meeting, but will be

[2:29:09] distributed to the city council and

[2:29:11] included in the meeting record.

[2:29:14] So, do I have anybody uh Diana or

[2:29:17] Michael?

[2:29:19] >> We lost Sher. She already posted on

[2:29:21] Facebook.

[2:29:22] >> Oh,

[2:29:24] Diana.

[2:29:26] >> I My family just got home, so I can put

[2:29:30] myself here. There were just comments

[2:29:32] that of wording that could have helped

[2:29:34] and I've shared it with Carrie and

[2:29:36] Janet.

[2:29:39] I don't know that it's

[2:29:44] » we can take out the word chipper days

[2:29:45] because what it is is a city forest wise

[2:29:48] cleanup days. Sometimes we have the

[2:29:50] advantage of having chipper days,

[2:29:51] sometimes we don't. But it would be wise

[2:29:53] if we continue to have something every

[2:29:56] year that's calendared and reminding

[2:29:59] citizens how to do what

[2:30:03] >> I like that

[2:30:05] >> because there have been years there's

[2:30:07] where we just had the green barrels,

[2:30:08] right? I mean I remember one year we had

[2:30:10] the bins and we didn't have the chipper

[2:30:11] but we could follow all our green

[2:30:15] >> Yeah.

[2:30:16] >> water usage reducing water usage. My

[2:30:19] suggestion was some methods we encourage

[2:30:21] are blank by blank, but you got close to

[2:30:23] that one by the time you're done um

[2:30:26] talking.

[2:30:27] And I said,

[2:30:29] >> our usage is typically greater on that

[2:30:31] one line that was highlighted.

[2:30:34] >> That's right.

[2:30:37] >> Yeah. And not even, you know, just

[2:30:39] globally whenever there's a drought,

[2:30:42] water usage typically greater.

[2:30:47] » Thank you.

[2:30:48] Hey, thank you. Yeah, I received those.

[2:30:51] Um, and I'll be including those.

[2:30:55] Appreciate it. Uh, Michael, anything

[2:30:57] from you?

[2:30:58] >> Thank you. No, nothing tonight. I

[2:30:59] appreciate it.

[2:31:01] >> Okay. Thank you for your contributions

[2:31:02] on the finance committee as well. You've

[2:31:04] been a great asset there.

[2:31:07] Okay, then I will close the public uh

[2:31:09] comment. Actually, is there anybody here

[2:31:12] do

[2:31:14] >> not right now? No. Okay,

[2:31:16] >> then we will continue to close it. Um,

[2:31:18] and we will move to the consent agenda.

[2:31:20] The approval of minutes for April 28th,

[2:31:23] 2026 city council meeting.

[2:31:26] >> Do I have a motion?

[2:31:27] >> I'll make a motion that we approve the

[2:31:29] minutes.

[2:31:30] >> I'll second.

[2:31:31] >> Motion from council member or Janet

[2:31:34] Lunt. Wow, I'm struggling.

[2:31:37] >> And a second from council member Rhoden.

[2:31:39] Um, council member Malovich.

[2:31:42] >> Yes.

[2:31:42] >> Council member Hutchkins. Yes.

[2:31:45] >> Council member Rhoden.

[2:31:47] >> Yes.

[2:31:47] >> Council member Lund.

[2:31:48] >> Yes.

[2:31:49] >> The consent agenda passes. Um business

[2:31:52] consideration and possible action

[2:31:54] authorizing the mayor to execute the

[2:31:56] accounting services contract with

[2:31:58] Charlene Wild. I'll accept a motion.

[2:32:00] >> I'll motion.

[2:32:02] >> Motion from council member Malovich. Do

[2:32:04] I have a second?

[2:32:05] >> I'll second.

[2:32:07] >> Okay. Uh okay. Sounds like it goes the

[2:32:10] second goes to council member Hutchkins.

[2:32:13] Um, Council Member Lund,

[2:32:15] >> yes.

[2:32:16] >> Council member Roden,

[2:32:17] >> yes.

[2:32:17] >> Council member Hutchkins,

[2:32:19] >> yes.

[2:32:20] >> Council member Malovich,

[2:32:21] >> yes.

[2:32:22] >> Thank you so much for that support. Um,

[2:32:25] I have no need for or see a reason to go

[2:32:28] into close session. Is there anybody

[2:32:30] here that feels that would be worth our

[2:32:31] time per the state statute allowance?

[2:32:35] >> Not tonight. For me,

[2:32:37] >> you you kind of gave us a little bit of

[2:32:39] a legal update during your presentation,

[2:32:41] so Wonderful. Okay.

[2:32:44] >> Wait, wait, wait. Does that mean we're

[2:32:46] going to be out of here?

[2:32:47] >> Oh, we're trying to break some records

[2:32:49] here. Uh, I'll accept a motion to

[2:32:51] adjurnn.

[2:32:52] >> I'll make a motion.

[2:32:54] >> Do I have a second?

[2:32:55] >> Second.

[2:32:56] >> And we are adjourned.

[2:32:58] >> Thank you everybody. Thank you, Diana.

[2:33:00] Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Dorl.

[2:33:01] Appreciate you guys.

City Council Meeting May 12th 2026

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