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Very
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good. It's June 17,
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2026.
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Command Planning Commission of Woodland
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Hills is
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now in session.
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We'll start with a public hearing
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uh to hear public comment on
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one of one of two things. Um the first
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is the general plan. It's been
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completed,
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reviewed by
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um planning commission
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and uh city council
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and they have made a few uh changes to
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it from what we did, but not really
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anything significant.
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Um, and I it's been out there for the
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public to look at for a number of of uh
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weeks
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and so we'll
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in its finished state
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uh take any public comment. I don't see
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anybody here
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and we don't see anybody online
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for that. So,
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we will close public comment on public
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hearing for that. And the uh second
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item,
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a number of months ago, we passed
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a change in uh one of our ordinances
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having to do with uh a hazardous
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um
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study that needed to be done on some
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lots where there was
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uh issues, whether it was earthquake
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faults or [clears throat] uh avalanche
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or any other number of things. We and we
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changed that statute. And there's one
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that we overlook that's relating to
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that. It's on the second page of that handout that I gave you.
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These are the requirements um for um
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somebody doing doing their site plan and
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it's a natural hazard study for home
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located in identified hazard areas.
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And we're adding if required. It says
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when required, but if required. So it's
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up to the city engineer if he wants to
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have them do that, but it's optional
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now.
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um one of these studies costs some can
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cost upwards of $78,000. So sometimes
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it's maybe not necessary, not that
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critical and so the city engineer will
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make a decision as to whether or not to
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require a hazardous study or not. So we
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overlook making a change on that thing.
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So that's what the second public hearing
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is uh to take comment on that and again
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I don't see anybody here or nobody
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zoomed in.
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So we will close the public hearing on those two matters and go then into
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our
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uh agenda and further discuss those
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amongst the planning commission members.
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Um, Severign, would you offer our
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invocation?
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And Lori, would you lead us in a pledge?
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Oh kindly, gracious eternal heavenly
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father, we're grateful for this
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opportunity to serve
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as part of the planning commission with
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us and that they would bless us as we
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deliberate this day and discuss those
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things that impact the
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citizens of our city. that we may have
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thy spirit to guide us and help us to
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make recommendations
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that would be in accordance with thy
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will. We pray in the name of thy son
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Jesus Christ. Amen.
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>> Amen. [clears throat]
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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands. One nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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>> Thank you both.
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Open it to any public comment.
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No one is here and no one online.
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So
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we will close that portion of our agenda
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and move into our item number seven
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approval of April 15, 2026
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planning commission meeting minutes. Um
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that's the last time we met. We didn't
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meet in May. So, uh, I'll take a motion
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on, uh, approving those minutes of April
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15.
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» I'll make a motion to approve the
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minutes of April 15th.
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>> Okay, I'll second it. Ry Thomas made a
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first. John Stout made a second. All in
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favor?
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>> I. Any opposed?
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All right,
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we'll go into the uh discussion for the
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planning commission on the general plan.
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Um
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any
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further thoughts or comments that
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any of you have to make on that? Well,
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the
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>> do you have
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anything to share with us in terms of
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what the minor changes were that the
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city council made?
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>> You know, I didn't I didn't take notes
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of it. There were a few goal changes
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that they adjusted, one or two, and the
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others. There was nothing major. there
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was a maybe a word or a sentence here or
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there that uh they changed or modified.
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Um but uh nothing that I I took
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exception to with what they were doing
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and they're were they I think they were
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relatively minor. Seems like there was
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one that they had a little bit of
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discussion or debate about. Um,
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[clears throat]
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not that it was bad, but the a better
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way to say something. And they had quite
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a talk about that, but I can't remember
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which one it was.
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>> Happy.
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>> Say again.
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>> Happy to go.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe.
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[laughter]
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So, um, I I glanced through it this
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morning and I liked the additions of the
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different things, the mapping that
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they've included. in now we're seeing
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now that we didn't have in there. That's
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really nice. So these hazard studies
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we're talking about.
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>> Yes.
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>> Now people if they buy a lot in that
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area, they can understand that that is
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in that area or whatever. So
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>> yeah.
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>> So there's a few additions to it that I
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did like
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>> they uh what we hadn't seen too was this
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uh executive summary that we didn't have
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when we did our review. And uh so that's
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included now just kind of a short
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summary of of uh the different areas. Um
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we're also going to add an index to this
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here and um
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list of all those who participated on
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the committee, the planning commission
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and the city council. There'll be a page
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of that in here as well. And then the
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survey that they conducted is at the
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very end.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So we've added that just as a
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information.
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>> I liked that survey. I thought that was
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>> can see that in its entirety. And
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>> did [laughter and clears throat] the
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chairman of the community development
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committee have any concerns that she
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expressed about the changes that we made or the
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changes the city council made?
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>> No, nothing has come back. Okay.
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>> With any kind of criticism or
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>> we haven't had a meeting.
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>> No, I
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my impression is that it's over. That
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committee is over.
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Um next
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>> Well, we're still working strategic
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plan.
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>> Well, yes and no.
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>> Okay. Um my understanding is they that a
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strategic plan has been presented.
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Um but it's not going to get it's like a
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couple of pages and uh the mayor wasn't
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too happy with it. I wasn't either. I
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thought that our general plan covered
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these areas and goals and so forth and
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it was designed for more short-term
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um
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steps in towards completing a a part of
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the general plan if it was a if it was
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something that needed to be further
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worked on. Did the council member have
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any concern about it? Cuz she was the
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one that was one of the council members,
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the one that kind of pushed it.
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The the strategic plan was given to
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us, the council, after the council
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review.
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So, the council hasn't seen it. Next
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week on Tuesday night, um the mayor
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plans on presenting this as a final to
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the council again. So I don't know if
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there will be further discussion about
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putting elements or putting a strategic
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plan in here, but I didn't think it
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served much purpose because I thought
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the general plan covered pretty much
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covered the things that needed to be in there.
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So
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whether the council will change her
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mind, I don't know. Um, so
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anyway, that's uh that's that's
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it. And if there's no further changes,
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then I think the the development
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committee will cease to function. their
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whole purpose was to put this together
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and and they won't have any further
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function and they'll I think be be um
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released from that assignment.
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So
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um
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I know we've voted on it already. I
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would like to vote on it again with its
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entirety the way it is with the
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executive summary and just making sure
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that we're we're happy satisfied with it
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as it uh goes to the council for one for
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one last time. We um we only had one
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public input
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and uh there was a written input but
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most of most of that input was not
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uh germanine to the general plan. They
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were talking about some changing some
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ordinances and a few other things like
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that that and some ideas about different
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things in the city, but it wasn't it
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didn't go into the general plan.
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>> Wasn't there supposed to be a community
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meeting
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where they could provide input like we
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did last time?
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>> We did have that.
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>> Oh, all right. Um it was quite a long
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time ago and that's where the idea with
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the housing the moderate income housing
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came up.
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>> That was the one that I mean that was
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before the general plan was written.
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>> Uh yeah
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>> that was
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>> I thought we had to have one after where
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the community could review the general
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plan and make comments.
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>> That's that's why the general plan's
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been out on the web page.
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>> Okay. and available for the community to
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make comment on if they
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>> and that's where the written
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>> the one written statement came. Yeah.
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>> So,
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all right. Um, with that said, I'll I'll
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take a I'll take a a motion if somebody
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wants to make one to adopt it the way it
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is. I move that we uh recommend adoption
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of the general plan as modified by the
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planning commission and city council
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with the added executive summit.
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>> All right.
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Any second to that motion?
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>> I'll second that.
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>> Okay.
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[snorts]
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All in favor?
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>> Any opposed?
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Very good. We'll pass that on to the
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city council then for for one last time.
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Appreciate your input all along that
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we've had as we reviewed it and um I I
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think it's pretty pretty good. Um, I
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think it addresses the some of the needs
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that the city has and um, I it's it's my
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goal hopefully that we'll maybe try to
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give a little bit more attention to it
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than we have in years past to general
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plans to guide us in different decisions
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and things that come before us. So,
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we'll see how that goes.
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Um
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uh this change to uh uh title 10.45
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section E
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uh having to do with the hazard study
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adopt doing that when if required. I'll
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take a motion on uh approving that and
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moving it to the city council.
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I'll make a motion to approve the
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amendment to city code 10.4.5
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requiring drawings and information on
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the hazard study.
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>> Okay. Is there a second to that?
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>> I'll second that.
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>> All right. All in favor?
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>> I. Any opposed?
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Very well. That uh generally concludes
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our business and discussion tonight.
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Under miscellaneous. O wanted to inform
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you all that um
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an individual named uh Gayen Riggs is is
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our alternate planning commissioner. Um
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he'll be with us as he's able to
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uh he's has a position in branch
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presidency at the MTC and so that takes
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some of his time right now. It'll it'll
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lighten up as time goes on. So, uh, he
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lives over in Summit Creek and, um, he's
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lived there for probably about, I don't
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know, maybe three or four years.
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>> Yeah. And uh so I've talked to him and
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>> so we we still need to find a permit.
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>> It's we're it's I I
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with a public this being public we we
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have one hopefully the mayor was
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supposed to interview him this week and
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um if he does then he'll be presented
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next Tuesday night to the council for
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their supporting vote. It's a
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recommendation that John uh had made uh
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a while ago. Um
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and once we're through with the with the
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meeting, share share that with
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everybody.
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Um
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any anything else from general
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discussion or
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questions or concerns for this meeting? If not, I'll take a
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motion to
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>> I have a question. We don't know
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anything about the time frame of the
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mailboxes.
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Do we?
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um
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not as much as we'd like to.
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>> Okay. [laughter]
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>> The um
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>> just kind of waiting on the county.
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>> Well, the the county has finished 100%
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design of it and I think they're getting
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ready to go out with bids for it. Um
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[clears throat]
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Ben has been awarded the contract to do
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the temporary
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um mailboxes here with a container and
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so they're in the process of working
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through that. He submitted a bid and
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they've accepted that to do that.
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[clears throat] Um
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so
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that's kind of where things are. I know
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that um
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Three Bridges want was wanting to get
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their
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civil engineer together with our
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architect
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to
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um further the [clears throat] basic
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design I think is done. but to now put
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it in in a setting and know how much
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dirt's got to be brought in and do all
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of that work around around it. They
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haven't put it out for bid yet um for
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the actually building of the structure,
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but they're they're close close to it, I
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think. So, that's kind of where things
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are. Um, the mayor wants to uh have a
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little I don't know if they're going to
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make it a contest or what, but but paint
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the whole container and then one of two
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things. either have people paint their
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own little design on on a part of it or
[20:04]
to have he saw a uh a a painting that
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was the size of the container with uh a
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celebratory picture of it of the 250th
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anniversary of the country.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> and he was wondering about seeing trying
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to put something like that on it out
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here
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cover up the ugliness on being.
[20:32]
[laughter]
[20:33]
So that's being talked about but no
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decisions made on that and that's
[20:38]
that'll probably be entirely on us. It's
[20:41]
not something that the three bridges
[20:42]
would participate in. So but thanks for
[20:47]
the question. Good question. It's kind
[20:48]
of been a while. I don't know if you've
[20:50]
talked to the architect recently or
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>> I talked to him about two weeks ago and
[20:55]
he said that he had a meeting set up. So
[20:57]
I think that meeting might have already
[20:59]
happened
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>> between him and the civil engineer. He
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had at the time he hadn't received the
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civils drawings yet.
[21:05]
>> Okay.
[21:06]
>> And he was going to incorporate it all
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together. All right.
[21:08]
>> And I think that's probably happened.
[21:10]
I think from what I've seen with the road design,
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um
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it'll the the mailboxes will be will be
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set back and a little bit further to the
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east than what they are now.
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So,
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um they generally got an area to put it
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in as now that the [clears throat]
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the uh roundabout they're going to keep
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the same interior size of what we have
[21:47]
now, but there'll be an added
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uh maybe 10 ft around that uh to enlarge
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it for the accommodate the roads that
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they're that are putting in there. So,
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they've left it up to us.
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It's questionable who's going to pay for
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it, but for a city sign or something
[22:11]
there, if we wanted to put it in the
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roundabout, he said that would be fine.
[22:16]
It's possible. There's been talk about
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putting it on the side or the backside
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of the mail facility down there,
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depending on how it's situated. But uh
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that they they
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want to make something very attractive.
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I don't know if any of you driven up to
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uh Elkridge and seen the sign that they the city sign they have they have
[22:43]
an elk big elk.
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>> Oh yeah, I did see that and it's very
[22:46]
attractive. It's nice. So they wondered
[22:49]
about maybe not duplicating it but
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having something long a
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[laughter]
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>> bridge kind of goes down.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Be great if we can keep the flags in it.
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>> They are they decided
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>> there's not trees.
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>> Keep the flags there.
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>> You know
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I don't like the trees. I I've almost
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had a couple of accidents because you
[23:14]
can't see through it. But all the
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engineers say, "Well, the trees you
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can't see, so you slow down." You know,
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people don't don't do that. So that's
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I'm I'm hoping that's still a negotiable
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thing. They are putting some low plants
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in there, you know, cover ground cover
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and stuff. Um,
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and keep sewing trees in there. So, I I
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don't know what that
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>> I I would like to not have anything that
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needs watering. Just have big boulders
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and bra, you know, make it look nice,
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but not needing.
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>> Yeah, there's talk talk about putting
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some in there, [laughter]
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>> but uh the trees, you know, that I
[23:58]
really I I see them as being dangerous.
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I really I've almost had a couple of
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accidents
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>> entering it when a car is just, you
[24:05]
know, coming around there and you didn't
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see it because the trees block your
[24:08]
view. Maybe with the bigger circle it'll
[24:10]
be the vision will be different.
[24:13]
>> Yeah, that's that's true too. It'll be
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less
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opportunity to have an accident there
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with it with it bigger. So that's kind
[24:23]
of where where that's at. So
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uh well anything else or make a motion
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to to adjourn?
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>> I'll make a motion to that we adjourn.
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Okay,
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>> I'll second that.
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>> All right. All in favor?
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>> I You go back.
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» I think we set a record tonight. Maybe.