Planning Commission Meeting June 17, 2026

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[1:10] Very
[1:25] good. It's June 17,
[1:28] 2026.
[1:30] Command Planning Commission of Woodland
[1:32] Hills is
[1:34] now in session.
[1:37] We'll start with a public hearing
[1:40] uh to hear public comment on
[1:44] one of one of two things. Um the first
[1:48] is the general plan. It's been
[1:52] completed,
[1:53] reviewed by
[1:56] um planning commission
[1:58] and uh city council
[2:01] and they have made a few uh changes to
[2:04] it from what we did, but not really
[2:07] anything significant.
[2:10] Um, and I it's been out there for the
[2:13] public to look at for a number of of uh
[2:16] weeks
[2:18] and so we'll
[2:21] in its finished state
[2:23] uh take any public comment. I don't see
[2:26] anybody here
[2:28] and we don't see anybody online
[2:33] for that. So,
[2:35] we will close public comment on public
[2:38] hearing for that. And the uh second
[2:42] item,
[2:44] a number of months ago, we passed
[2:47] a change in uh one of our ordinances
[2:50] having to do with uh a hazardous
[2:54] um
[2:56] study that needed to be done on some
[3:00] lots where there was
[3:03] uh issues, whether it was earthquake
[3:06] faults or [clears throat] uh avalanche
[3:10] or any other number of things. We and we
[3:14] changed that statute. And there's one
[3:17] that we overlook that's relating to
[3:20] that. It's on the second page of that handout that I gave you.
[3:25] These are the requirements um for um
[3:30] somebody doing doing their site plan and
[3:34] it's a natural hazard study for home
[3:37] located in identified hazard areas.
[3:40] And we're adding if required. It says
[3:43] when required, but if required. So it's
[3:47] up to the city engineer if he wants to
[3:50] have them do that, but it's optional
[3:54] now.
[3:55] um one of these studies costs some can
[3:59] cost upwards of $78,000. So sometimes
[4:03] it's maybe not necessary, not that
[4:06] critical and so the city engineer will
[4:09] make a decision as to whether or not to
[4:11] require a hazardous study or not. So we
[4:14] overlook making a change on that thing.
[4:18] So that's what the second public hearing
[4:22] is uh to take comment on that and again
[4:25] I don't see anybody here or nobody
[4:27] zoomed in.
[4:29] So we will close the public hearing on those two matters and go then into
[4:37] our
[4:38] uh agenda and further discuss those
[4:42] amongst the planning commission members.
[4:45] Um, Severign, would you offer our
[4:47] invocation?
[4:49] And Lori, would you lead us in a pledge?
[5:00] Oh kindly, gracious eternal heavenly
[5:02] father, we're grateful for this
[5:04] opportunity to serve
[5:07] as part of the planning commission with
[5:09] us and that they would bless us as we
[5:12] deliberate this day and discuss those
[5:14] things that impact the
[5:19] citizens of our city. that we may have
[5:22] thy spirit to guide us and help us to
[5:28] make recommendations
[5:31] that would be in accordance with thy
[5:33] will. We pray in the name of thy son
[5:35] Jesus Christ. Amen.
[5:37] >> Amen. [clears throat]
[5:43] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
[5:46] United States of America and to the
[5:49] republic for which it stands. One nation
[5:53] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[5:58] justice for all.
[6:00] >> Thank you both.
[6:05] Open it to any public comment.
[6:08] No one is here and no one online.
[6:12] So
[6:14] we will close that portion of our agenda
[6:18] and move into our item number seven
[6:21] approval of April 15, 2026
[6:24] planning commission meeting minutes. Um
[6:27] that's the last time we met. We didn't
[6:29] meet in May. So, uh, I'll take a motion
[6:34] on, uh, approving those minutes of April
[6:38] 15.
[6:44] » I'll make a motion to approve the
[6:45] minutes of April 15th.
[6:47] >> Okay, I'll second it. Ry Thomas made a
[6:51] first. John Stout made a second. All in
[6:54] favor?
[6:55] >> I. Any opposed?
[6:59] All right,
[7:01] we'll go into the uh discussion for the
[7:03] planning commission on the general plan.
[7:08] Um
[7:10] any
[7:11] further thoughts or comments that
[7:15] any of you have to make on that? Well,
[7:20] the
[7:22] >> do you have
[7:24] anything to share with us in terms of
[7:27] what the minor changes were that the
[7:29] city council made?
[7:30] >> You know, I didn't I didn't take notes
[7:33] of it. There were a few goal changes
[7:37] that they adjusted, one or two, and the
[7:41] others. There was nothing major. there
[7:44] was a maybe a word or a sentence here or
[7:47] there that uh they changed or modified.
[7:51] Um but uh nothing that I I took
[7:55] exception to with what they were doing
[7:57] and they're were they I think they were
[8:00] relatively minor. Seems like there was
[8:02] one that they had a little bit of
[8:05] discussion or debate about. Um,
[8:08] [clears throat]
[8:09] not that it was bad, but the a better
[8:12] way to say something. And they had quite
[8:15] a talk about that, but I can't remember
[8:16] which one it was.
[8:19] >> Happy.
[8:21] >> Say again.
[8:22] >> Happy to go.
[8:23] >> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe.
[8:25] [laughter]
[8:27] So, um, I I glanced through it this
[8:30] morning and I liked the additions of the
[8:34] different things, the mapping that
[8:35] they've included. in now we're seeing
[8:37] now that we didn't have in there. That's
[8:39] really nice. So these hazard studies
[8:41] we're talking about.
[8:43] >> Yes.
[8:43] >> Now people if they buy a lot in that
[8:45] area, they can understand that that is
[8:47] in that area or whatever. So
[8:48] >> yeah.
[8:50] >> So there's a few additions to it that I
[8:52] did like
[8:53] >> they uh what we hadn't seen too was this
[8:56] uh executive summary that we didn't have
[9:00] when we did our review. And uh so that's
[9:03] included now just kind of a short
[9:07] summary of of uh the different areas. Um
[9:13] we're also going to add an index to this
[9:16] here and um
[9:20] list of all those who participated on
[9:22] the committee, the planning commission
[9:25] and the city council. There'll be a page
[9:28] of that in here as well. And then the
[9:31] survey that they conducted is at the
[9:33] very end.
[9:34] >> Yeah.
[9:34] >> So we've added that just as a
[9:37] information.
[9:37] >> I liked that survey. I thought that was
[9:39] >> can see that in its entirety. And
[9:42] >> did [laughter and clears throat] the
[9:43] chairman of the community development
[9:46] committee have any concerns that she
[9:50] expressed about the changes that we made or the
[9:55] changes the city council made?
[9:57] >> No, nothing has come back. Okay.
[10:00] >> With any kind of criticism or
[10:03] >> we haven't had a meeting.
[10:06] >> No, I
[10:08] my impression is that it's over. That
[10:11] committee is over.
[10:13] Um next
[10:16] >> Well, we're still working strategic
[10:18] plan.
[10:18] >> Well, yes and no.
[10:21] >> Okay. Um my understanding is they that a
[10:25] strategic plan has been presented.
[10:29] Um but it's not going to get it's like a
[10:33] couple of pages and uh the mayor wasn't
[10:37] too happy with it. I wasn't either. I
[10:40] thought that our general plan covered
[10:42] these areas and goals and so forth and
[10:45] it was designed for more short-term
[10:49] um
[10:51] steps in towards completing a a part of
[10:55] the general plan if it was a if it was
[10:58] something that needed to be further
[10:59] worked on. Did the council member have
[11:02] any concern about it? Cuz she was the
[11:04] one that was one of the council members,
[11:06] the one that kind of pushed it.
[11:10] The the strategic plan was given to
[11:16] us, the council, after the council
[11:19] review.
[11:20] So, the council hasn't seen it. Next
[11:24] week on Tuesday night, um the mayor
[11:27] plans on presenting this as a final to
[11:31] the council again. So I don't know if
[11:34] there will be further discussion about
[11:36] putting elements or putting a strategic
[11:39] plan in here, but I didn't think it
[11:42] served much purpose because I thought
[11:45] the general plan covered pretty much
[11:47] covered the things that needed to be in there.
[11:51] So
[11:53] whether the council will change her
[11:54] mind, I don't know. Um, so
[12:00] anyway, that's uh that's that's
[12:05] it. And if there's no further changes,
[12:07] then I think the the development
[12:10] committee will cease to function. their
[12:13] whole purpose was to put this together
[12:16] and and they won't have any further
[12:18] function and they'll I think be be um
[12:22] released from that assignment.
[12:26] So
[12:27] um
[12:29] I know we've voted on it already. I
[12:31] would like to vote on it again with its
[12:34] entirety the way it is with the
[12:36] executive summary and just making sure
[12:39] that we're we're happy satisfied with it
[12:42] as it uh goes to the council for one for
[12:46] one last time. We um we only had one
[12:50] public input
[12:53] and uh there was a written input but
[12:58] most of most of that input was not
[13:02] uh germanine to the general plan. They
[13:05] were talking about some changing some
[13:07] ordinances and a few other things like
[13:10] that that and some ideas about different
[13:13] things in the city, but it wasn't it
[13:15] didn't go into the general plan.
[13:18] >> Wasn't there supposed to be a community
[13:22] meeting
[13:24] where they could provide input like we
[13:27] did last time?
[13:29] >> We did have that.
[13:30] >> Oh, all right. Um it was quite a long
[13:33] time ago and that's where the idea with
[13:35] the housing the moderate income housing
[13:38] came up.
[13:38] >> That was the one that I mean that was
[13:40] before the general plan was written.
[13:43] >> Uh yeah
[13:45] >> that was
[13:46] >> I thought we had to have one after where
[13:49] the community could review the general
[13:52] plan and make comments.
[13:53] >> That's that's why the general plan's
[13:55] been out on the web page.
[13:57] >> Okay. and available for the community to
[14:00] make comment on if they
[14:01] >> and that's where the written
[14:03] >> the one written statement came. Yeah.
[14:07] >> So,
[14:10] all right. Um, with that said, I'll I'll
[14:13] take a I'll take a a motion if somebody
[14:17] wants to make one to adopt it the way it
[14:20] is. I move that we uh recommend adoption
[14:27] of the general plan as modified by the
[14:32] planning commission and city council
[14:34] with the added executive summit.
[14:38] >> All right.
[14:39] Any second to that motion?
[14:41] >> I'll second that.
[14:42] >> Okay.
[14:44] [snorts]
[14:45] All in favor?
[14:47] >> Any opposed?
[14:49] Very good. We'll pass that on to the
[14:51] city council then for for one last time.
[14:55] Appreciate your input all along that
[14:58] we've had as we reviewed it and um I I
[15:02] think it's pretty pretty good. Um, I
[15:06] think it addresses the some of the needs
[15:08] that the city has and um, I it's it's my
[15:13] goal hopefully that we'll maybe try to
[15:15] give a little bit more attention to it
[15:17] than we have in years past to general
[15:19] plans to guide us in different decisions
[15:22] and things that come before us. So,
[15:26] we'll see how that goes.
[15:28] Um
[15:30] uh this change to uh uh title 10.45
[15:38] section E
[15:40] uh having to do with the hazard study
[15:44] adopt doing that when if required. I'll
[15:47] take a motion on uh approving that and
[15:50] moving it to the city council.
[15:53] I'll make a motion to approve the
[15:56] amendment to city code 10.4.5
[15:59] requiring drawings and information on
[16:01] the hazard study.
[16:02] >> Okay. Is there a second to that?
[16:05] >> I'll second that.
[16:07] >> All right. All in favor?
[16:10] >> I. Any opposed?
[16:12] Very well. That uh generally concludes
[16:16] our business and discussion tonight.
[16:20] Under miscellaneous. O wanted to inform
[16:22] you all that um
[16:25] an individual named uh Gayen Riggs is is
[16:29] our alternate planning commissioner. Um
[16:33] he'll be with us as he's able to
[16:37] uh he's has a position in branch
[16:41] presidency at the MTC and so that takes
[16:44] some of his time right now. It'll it'll
[16:47] lighten up as time goes on. So, uh, he
[16:51] lives over in Summit Creek and, um, he's
[16:56] lived there for probably about, I don't
[16:58] know, maybe three or four years.
[17:00] >> Yeah. And uh so I've talked to him and
[17:04] >> so we we still need to find a permit.
[17:07] >> It's we're it's I I
[17:10] with a public this being public we we
[17:13] have one hopefully the mayor was
[17:16] supposed to interview him this week and
[17:19] um if he does then he'll be presented
[17:23] next Tuesday night to the council for
[17:26] their supporting vote. It's a
[17:28] recommendation that John uh had made uh
[17:33] a while ago. Um
[17:37] and once we're through with the with the
[17:39] meeting, share share that with
[17:41] everybody.
[17:44] Um
[17:48] any anything else from general
[17:51] discussion or
[17:53] questions or concerns for this meeting? If not, I'll take a
[18:00] motion to
[18:02] >> I have a question. We don't know
[18:04] anything about the time frame of the
[18:07] mailboxes.
[18:09] Do we?
[18:11] um
[18:12] not as much as we'd like to.
[18:14] >> Okay. [laughter]
[18:15] >> The um
[18:16] >> just kind of waiting on the county.
[18:17] >> Well, the the county has finished 100%
[18:20] design of it and I think they're getting
[18:24] ready to go out with bids for it. Um
[18:29] [clears throat]
[18:32] Ben has been awarded the contract to do
[18:38] the temporary
[18:41] um mailboxes here with a container and
[18:45] so they're in the process of working
[18:49] through that. He submitted a bid and
[18:50] they've accepted that to do that.
[18:53] [clears throat] Um
[18:55] so
[18:58] that's kind of where things are. I know
[19:01] that um
[19:04] Three Bridges want was wanting to get
[19:07] their
[19:08] civil engineer together with our
[19:11] architect
[19:12] to
[19:15] um further the [clears throat] basic
[19:18] design I think is done. but to now put
[19:21] it in in a setting and know how much
[19:26] dirt's got to be brought in and do all
[19:28] of that work around around it. They
[19:32] haven't put it out for bid yet um for
[19:35] the actually building of the structure,
[19:37] but they're they're close close to it, I
[19:41] think. So, that's kind of where things
[19:44] are. Um, the mayor wants to uh have a
[19:49] little I don't know if they're going to
[19:51] make it a contest or what, but but paint
[19:55] the whole container and then one of two
[19:59] things. either have people paint their
[20:02] own little design on on a part of it or
[20:04] to have he saw a uh a a painting that
[20:10] was the size of the container with uh a
[20:15] celebratory picture of it of the 250th
[20:19] anniversary of the country.
[20:21] >> [clears throat]
[20:21] >> and he was wondering about seeing trying
[20:24] to put something like that on it out
[20:26] here
[20:29] cover up the ugliness on being.
[20:32] [laughter]
[20:33] So that's being talked about but no
[20:36] decisions made on that and that's
[20:38] that'll probably be entirely on us. It's
[20:41] not something that the three bridges
[20:42] would participate in. So but thanks for
[20:47] the question. Good question. It's kind
[20:48] of been a while. I don't know if you've
[20:50] talked to the architect recently or
[20:52] >> I talked to him about two weeks ago and
[20:55] he said that he had a meeting set up. So
[20:57] I think that meeting might have already
[20:59] happened
[21:00] >> between him and the civil engineer. He
[21:02] had at the time he hadn't received the
[21:04] civils drawings yet.
[21:05] >> Okay.
[21:06] >> And he was going to incorporate it all
[21:07] together. All right.
[21:08] >> And I think that's probably happened.
[21:10] I think from what I've seen with the road design,
[21:16] um
[21:18] it'll the the mailboxes will be will be
[21:22] set back and a little bit further to the
[21:26] east than what they are now.
[21:30] So,
[21:32] um they generally got an area to put it
[21:36] in as now that the [clears throat]
[21:39] the uh roundabout they're going to keep
[21:42] the same interior size of what we have
[21:47] now, but there'll be an added
[21:50] uh maybe 10 ft around that uh to enlarge
[21:55] it for the accommodate the roads that
[21:58] they're that are putting in there. So,
[22:02] they've left it up to us.
[22:06] It's questionable who's going to pay for
[22:07] it, but for a city sign or something
[22:11] there, if we wanted to put it in the
[22:13] roundabout, he said that would be fine.
[22:16] It's possible. There's been talk about
[22:19] putting it on the side or the backside
[22:22] of the mail facility down there,
[22:25] depending on how it's situated. But uh
[22:30] that they they
[22:32] want to make something very attractive.
[22:34] I don't know if any of you driven up to
[22:37] uh Elkridge and seen the sign that they the city sign they have they have
[22:43] an elk big elk.
[22:44] >> Oh yeah, I did see that and it's very
[22:46] attractive. It's nice. So they wondered
[22:49] about maybe not duplicating it but
[22:52] having something long a
[22:56] [laughter]
[22:57] >> bridge kind of goes down.
[22:59] >> Yeah.
[23:00] >> Be great if we can keep the flags in it.
[23:02] >> They are they decided
[23:04] >> there's not trees.
[23:05] >> Keep the flags there.
[23:07] >> You know
[23:09] I don't like the trees. I I've almost
[23:12] had a couple of accidents because you
[23:14] can't see through it. But all the
[23:16] engineers say, "Well, the trees you
[23:19] can't see, so you slow down." You know,
[23:21] people don't don't do that. So that's
[23:26] I'm I'm hoping that's still a negotiable
[23:28] thing. They are putting some low plants
[23:31] in there, you know, cover ground cover
[23:33] and stuff. Um,
[23:38] and keep sewing trees in there. So, I I
[23:40] don't know what that
[23:41] >> I I would like to not have anything that
[23:44] needs watering. Just have big boulders
[23:46] and bra, you know, make it look nice,
[23:48] but not needing.
[23:50] >> Yeah, there's talk talk about putting
[23:52] some in there, [laughter]
[23:54] >> but uh the trees, you know, that I
[23:58] really I I see them as being dangerous.
[24:00] I really I've almost had a couple of
[24:02] accidents
[24:03] >> entering it when a car is just, you
[24:05] know, coming around there and you didn't
[24:06] see it because the trees block your
[24:08] view. Maybe with the bigger circle it'll
[24:10] be the vision will be different.
[24:13] >> Yeah, that's that's true too. It'll be
[24:16] less
[24:17] opportunity to have an accident there
[24:19] with it with it bigger. So that's kind
[24:23] of where where that's at. So
[24:28] uh well anything else or make a motion
[24:32] to to adjourn?
[24:35] >> I'll make a motion to that we adjourn.
[24:37] Okay,
[24:38] >> I'll second that.
[24:39] >> All right. All in favor?
[24:42] >> I You go back.
[24:51] » I think we set a record tonight. Maybe.