[0:03] Everyone knows

[0:11] it. Then you get what you want. Then you

[0:12] have to

[0:12] >> It'll take some more tweaking, too. But

[0:14] it's easy.

[0:15] >> It's not hard work. It's just

[0:18] >> I would like to start uh the work

[0:21] session of our city council meeting for

[0:23] July 14th, 2026.

[0:27] >> Well, this is part of it. So, well,

[0:29] you're right. We'll start though with a

[0:31] public hearing. Uh, this is for a

[0:33] proposed revisions to the amended 2025

[0:35] 2026 fiscal year budget.

[0:39] Do I have anybody? It doesn't look like

[0:40] I have anybody online.

[0:43] Do I have anybody here that is desiring

[0:45] to speak?

[0:47] Former council member Dorl,

[0:49] >> you're good.

[0:50] >> Thanks.

[0:51] >> Perfect.

[0:52] >> Thanks for being here, Dorl. Then we

[0:54] will close the public hearing and we'll

[0:56] move to the work session. Um we're going

[0:59] to start uh from you just you said Mike.

[1:03] >> Yeah. I will Josh and Mike

[1:05] >> pick this off and then run us through

[1:07] it.

[1:07] >> Okay. We're going to start with a

[1:08] training from our city insurance the

[1:11] Utah Local Government Trust.

[1:13] >> Okay. Do I need to like

[1:15] >> come and join us right here. Um if you

[1:17] can just

[1:17] >> Sounds good at the party table.

[1:19] >> You got you got to dance out there.

[1:21] >> Awesome. just state your name for the

[1:23] record um and then carry on.

[1:25] >> Sounds good. My name is Josh McCuel. I

[1:27] am the risk finance consultant from the

[1:29] Utah Local Government's Trust that is

[1:31] assigned to Utah County. Mike Stag is

[1:34] with me. Mike is your assigned risk

[1:36] manager, but he is also the risk manager

[1:39] um manager. He manages our risk

[1:41] management department, our loss

[1:42] prevention department. And I talked to

[1:45] the mayor last week about doing a

[1:48] training and we are the training that

[1:51] Mike is going to go over with you is is

[1:52] a popular training right now. It's much

[1:55] needed. Um he's been doing it with other

[1:58] entities as well. But before he gets

[2:00] started, I just wanted to do a quick

[2:01] introduction of the Utah Local

[2:03] Government's Trust. So we are what's

[2:06] known as a public agency insurance

[2:08] mutual. We were created under an

[2:12] interlocal. So there's lots of local

[2:14] government interlocals throughout the

[2:15] state and that's exactly what we are. So

[2:18] we are here to serve our members. Our

[2:21] members are they own the trust and each

[2:24] member has equity shareholder stake in

[2:27] the trust as well. So we are a

[2:28] government entity. Um we're not set up

[2:31] necessarily as a nonprofit but we are

[2:32] not out for profit. We are just designed

[2:36] to have reserves in place but also serve

[2:39] our membership and insurance is

[2:41] certainly one of the most important

[2:44] things that we do if not the most

[2:45] important but our bigger focus is on

[2:47] risk management. So that's kind of where

[2:52] we fit and one of the reasons that we

[2:54] have become very popular with cities. We

[2:57] ensure about 91% of the cities and towns

[3:00] across the state of Utah and we really value this relationship. Um we've

[3:07] done the insurance for Wooden Hills for

[3:08] years and

[3:10] we feel very good about your leadership

[3:13] team and we look forward to working with

[3:15] you guys probably a little bit more

[3:17] closely than we have in the past

[3:19] honestly. And um we're here to help you

[3:21] guys however you need it. But before I

[3:23] turn it over to Mike, if anyone has

[3:26] questions or would like to clarify

[3:28] anything, we're happy to address that as

[3:30] well.

[3:32] Okay, Mike. Excellent. I'm going to get

[3:36] hooked up here. Hopefully, this will

[3:38] work for me as we as I share this with

[3:40] y'all. Um,

[3:49] » you just share them through the Zooms

[3:50] itself.

[3:51] >> Yeah. Try

[3:57] say we didn't have questions because we

[3:58] didn't know what to ask, but we might

[4:00] have

[4:01] >> question might have it afterwards.

[4:03] >> Yeah.

[4:05] >> And Mike, will you be sending us these

[4:06] slides afterwards?

[4:07] >> Yes, I can absolutely do that.

[4:09] >> That would be great.

[4:11] >> All right. Um Mike Stack, I'm from Utah

[4:15] Government's Trust. Like Josh said, um I

[4:18] am the I'm the loss prevention manager

[4:20] there, but I'm also your assigned risk

[4:21] manager. So there's myself and and

[4:24] another gentleman, his name is Jason,

[4:25] who you saw on the screen there with the

[4:27] lots of hair. That's not me.

[4:29] And he oversees kind of northern Utah um

[4:33] all the way, you know, down south uh to

[4:35] the southeastern part of the state. And

[4:37] I kind of do everything really Utah

[4:40] County and south west Utah all the way

[4:43] down to the southern part of the state

[4:44] down St. George Washington County area.

[4:47] Um, and this is some of the stuff that I love to do is come and train and do some presentations. And this is

[4:55] stuff that I'm happy to do for the

[4:56] council. I'm happy to do it for your uh your employees. Um, we have a

[5:02] lot of training that that we do. And

[5:03] that's that's one of my main

[5:04] responsibilities is is training,

[5:06] consultations, and uh risk visits and

[5:09] management risk management visits, that

[5:11] kind of stuff. Um, so if the council or

[5:13] the mayor is ever interested in things

[5:15] like that, you can let me know and I'm

[5:17] more than happy to to come and do some

[5:19] of this stuff for you. Um, but this one

[5:21] here is is one that that when Josh asked

[5:24] me to come and present, he asked, you

[5:26] know, what could we talk about? Um, and

[5:29] this was part of the conversation with

[5:32] the mayor is, you know, some of this

[5:34] stuff is is really relevant right now,

[5:37] especially fraud and cyber security type

[5:39] things. So, I wanted to spend about 15

[5:41] to 20 minutes with you, if that's okay.

[5:43] Um, just going through some of the

[5:46] things that we've seen and some of the

[5:47] things that we can do as public

[5:49] officials to make sure that we're as

[5:51] protected as possible here at the city.

[5:53] Okay. Um, why does fraud prevention

[5:56] really matter? Well, because public

[5:58] trust is the foundation of effective

[5:59] government. Any kind of fraud within the

[6:02] organization is going to divert funds

[6:04] away from services and projects that you

[6:06] might want to do and accomplish. whether

[6:08] that's, you know, the fraud of money

[6:11] being siphoned out of your bank account

[6:14] or it's the cost of fighting the crime,

[6:17] right? And so we want to make sure that

[6:19] we're doing everything we can to to

[6:21] prevent fraud in our organizations. And

[6:23] that fraud is comes in all shapes and

[6:25] forms. Any kind of fraud though is going

[6:27] to is going to damage reputation. You

[6:29] guys probably know this better than than

[6:31] most is any kind of fraud within an

[6:34] organization within a person is really

[6:37] going to damage that reputation and that

[6:40] reputation is going to linger for a long

[6:42] time. And really the biggest punishment

[6:45] here is the process when you go through

[6:47] it. The punishment is the process and

[6:49] going through and talking with lawyers

[6:51] and getting documentation and all that

[6:53] kind of stuff. in

[6:55] >> that is the main punishment for a public

[6:59] official is going through all of the all

[7:02] of the back and forth and all the

[7:04] headache that comes with fraud when it

[7:06] happens. Okay. Um as you look at fraud,

[7:09] we look at what we call the fraud

[7:11] triangle. Now there's three parts to the

[7:13] fraud triangle. We have opportunity,

[7:14] pressure, and rational rationalization.

[7:16] opportunity. Really, this is an employee

[7:19] or a member of the public or somebody

[7:21] who because of a lack of controls, they

[7:24] have an opportunity to create something

[7:26] that couldn't be there before. senior

[7:28] management isn't watching. Whether

[7:30] that's a a department head that's not

[7:33] watching, a an individual, whether

[7:35] that's just a supervisor or a line level

[7:37] employee having perceived assurance that

[7:40] they can do this and never be caught or

[7:45] a council member do something and never

[7:49] be caught doing it because of the

[7:51] position that you're in. Um, other

[7:53] things that we look at is pressure.

[7:56] pressured because of financial pressure

[7:59] at home. They've got something going on

[8:02] that they need that they feel that they

[8:04] need. You know, I need to do this

[8:07] because I've got to provide for my

[8:08] family. I'm not making enough money and

[8:12] they're going to come take my house away

[8:13] because of poor decisions I've made or

[8:15] this that or the other thing. So, I've

[8:17] got to do something. So, I'm under

[8:19] immense pressure. Addiction is another

[8:22] one. And we're talking like addiction to

[8:23] gambling, addiction to purchasing big

[8:28] expensive items, things like that, or

[8:30] living outside of your means. I have a

[8:32] cousin of mine who unfortunately fell

[8:34] into what we what they called financial

[8:37] addiction. Um he was a he was an auditor

[8:40] for for Davis County. Um, and he would

[8:45] go on the weekends, unbeknownst to his

[8:48] wife, to anybody else, and head out to

[8:50] Wendover and just blow everything. Like

[8:53] drained his 401k and just blew a ton of

[8:56] money. And then he started to think, "Oh

[8:58] my gosh, I've got to make this back now.

[9:00] Like, if my wife finds out that I've

[9:02] emptied our bank accounts and my 401k is

[9:04] dead, like I'm I'm toast." And so what

[9:07] did he do?

[9:07] >> Gamble.

[9:09] >> Gambled more. It's exactly right. First

[9:12] off, what he did is he started siphoning

[9:14] some off the top at Davis County um and

[9:18] started to take a little bit off, take a

[9:20] little bit off, budge some numbers here

[9:22] a little bit, transfer some things

[9:23] around in his position as an auditor.

[9:27] Then he blew all that too. And then he

[9:30] thought, "Oh man, now I'm in real deep

[9:31] trouble because now if I get caught at

[9:33] work, I'm probably going to jail." So

[9:34] what's the next thing he did? Robbed a

[9:36] couple of banks.

[9:38] >> Wow.

[9:39] >> Yeah,

[9:40] >> that is crazy. escalated quickly.

[9:43] >> It's not where I thought you were going.

[9:44] >> Yeah. So, then he robs a couple of

[9:46] banks, uh, one in Farmington and one in

[9:49] Cisville,

[9:50] and then he got caught. Then he spent

[9:53] the next 12 years of his life in in a

[9:56] federal federal penitentiary because of

[9:58] aggravated robbery.

[10:01] It's these pressure things that people

[10:04] feel that give opportunity. And when we

[10:08] present the opportunity to somebody who

[10:10] is having that pressure, that's

[10:13] especially when fraud can happen.

[10:17] >> The interest, right? It uses all these

[10:18] extra debt.

[10:20] >> Do you have a question? Sorry.

[10:21] >> No, I was just going to say I worked in

[10:22] banking for 10 years and my boss used to

[10:24] say if you give somebody enough need,

[10:26] enough time and opportunity, they will

[10:29] steal from you.

[10:29] >> They will steal from you. That's right.

[10:33] >> All right. So when the sub routine

[10:35] compounds the interest, right, it uses

[10:37] all these extra decimal places that just

[10:39] get rounded off. So we simplified the

[10:41] whole thing and we just we round them

[10:43] all down and just drop the remainder

[10:45] into an account that we opened.

[10:49] >> So you're stealing.

[10:51] >> Uh no, no, you don't understand. It's uh

[10:54] it's very complicated. It's uh it's it's

[10:57] aggregate. So I'm talking about

[10:58] fractions of a penny here. And uh over

[11:01] time they add up to a lot.

[11:04] >> Oh, okay. So, you're going to make a lot

[11:06] of money, right?

[11:07] >> Yeah.

[11:08] >> Right. It's not yours.

[11:10] >> Uh well, it it becomes ours.

[11:12] >> How is that not stealing?

[11:17] » How's that not stealing?

[11:20] Okay. Rationalization is then where we

[11:23] get to is I'll pay it back when I can.

[11:26] This isn't stealing. I deserve this. I

[11:29] deserve this pay raise. It's for a good

[11:32] reason. I'm gonna go and put food on my

[11:34] kids' table. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna

[11:36] pay my bills so my kids can have

[11:38] somewhere to live. I'm only going to do

[11:41] it once. I'm just going to do it one

[11:42] time and then I'm going to be done and

[11:45] then I'll pay it back later.

[11:48] That's that fraud triangle we we look

[11:50] at. And that's a lot of the

[11:54] instances that we see at the trust where

[11:56] we've seen fraud happen because there's

[11:59] been opportunities, there's been

[12:00] pressure and then they try and

[12:02] rationalize it away to say this is what

[12:05] I can do. Some common government fraud

[12:07] schemes that we've seen payroll

[12:08] manipulation, okay, procurement vendor

[12:11] fraud, expense reimbursements, misuse of

[12:14] assets, IT and data fraud. And these are

[12:17] all just little examples of things that

[12:19] we've seen at the trust of a fraud claim

[12:23] from within a city. And these are things

[12:26] that we want to want to avoid.

[12:32] » Utah is the fraud capital of the US.

[12:36] >> Do do you believe that?

[12:38] >> You think that's true?

[12:40] >> It's on the news. It must be. It must be

[12:42] because in Utah, in Utah, we're good

[12:45] people, right? We're we're good people

[12:48] here. You guys are good people.

[12:49] Council's good people. Mayor's good

[12:51] people. We work with good people. We're

[12:53] trusting people. Okay.

[12:55] >> That's what gets us.

[12:56] >> Exactly. Because sometimes we're a

[12:58] little bit dumb.

[13:00] We trust too much.

[13:02] >> I think that's probably shifted to

[13:03] either California or Minnesota.

[13:06] >> That's very true.

[13:07] >> Just just that's a little outdated. Just

[13:09] >> might have been the state that got

[13:12] caught the most.

[13:12] >> Think that got caught the most.

[13:14] >> But now, maybe not so much.

[13:17] >> Okay, because we think sometimes we're

[13:20] immune to this. We're never going to

[13:22] fall prey to this. People aren't going

[13:25] to take advantage of us. PT Barnum, this

[13:29] quotes attributed to PT Barnum, but

[13:30] really no one really knows where it came

[13:32] from. Says, "There's a sucker born every

[13:34] minute."

[13:35] We don't want to be the sucker. We don't

[13:37] want to be that sucker that's born every

[13:38] minute.

[13:39] >> Done. Step one, spoof his number so it

[13:42] looks like he's calling from inside the

[13:43] company and then call tech support.

[13:45] >> Hello. You there?

[13:47] >> Hello.

[13:48] >> Hi, this is Ken. How may I help you?

[13:49] >> I was wondering if uh you can uh take a

[13:52] look at a website I'm trying to get to.

[13:53] It's for a big customer thing I'm

[13:55] working on for Monday and uh I can't

[13:56] seem to get to the website from my

[13:57] computer.

[13:58] >> Sure. Uh what's website? I'll see if I

[14:00] can get to it.

[14:00] >> Thanks, man. I really appreciate the

[14:01] help. I mean, it could be a stupid

[14:03] thing. I'm I'm I'm really suck

[14:04] computers, but uh so it's uh it's it's www.servey.

[14:09] That's uh s urve vy-pro.com.

[14:15] » Yeah, I got a prompt to open. I just

[14:17] clicked open and I'm at the site now.

[14:19] >> Here's what the IT guy doesn't realize.

[14:21] By clicking that link, he's just given

[14:23] David full access to his computer.

[14:25] >> Whoa. Okay, that's weird. I just hit it

[14:27] and it works. It seems like it's working

[14:28] fine now. Awesome. I don't know what you

[14:29] did, man, but I really appreciate the

[14:30] help.

[14:31] >> Hey, no problem. That was easy.

[14:33] >> That was it.

[14:34] >> We're on his computer right now. You

[14:36] were able to take take over this this

[14:39] guy's computer within I would say like

[14:41] under two minutes.

[14:42] >> Under two minutes. Yeah. Under two

[14:43] minutes. Took over his entire computer.

[14:44] And and think of it as not just his

[14:46] computer, but it's pretty much a

[14:47] downfall of the entire company.

[14:48] >> In this case, the company was paying

[14:50] David to hack them.

[14:55] » People should worry about cyber

[14:56] security. We really should. We should

[14:59] worry about cyber security because you

[15:01] see just from that little clip how easy

[15:03] it was. two minutes for somebody to call

[15:06] and say, "Hey, I need you to do this for

[15:08] me. Click this link. Go to this website

[15:11] and take care of it for me so I can get

[15:13] into my systems."

[15:15] >> How easy was it? Yeah.

[15:16] >> Are you finding that there's an increase

[15:18] now that AI can duplicate a person's

[15:21] voice like any of ours?

[15:23] >> Yes.

[15:23] >> Um and then make a call and it would

[15:25] actually be our voice on there, but not

[15:27] us. So, how do you guys recommend that

[15:30] we would combat that? Not that it's

[15:31] happened to us personally yet that we

[15:33] know of, but how how are you seeing as

[15:36] risk management to help protect against

[15:38] those types of things?

[15:40] >> That is a fantastic question because we

[15:42] are seeing a lot of deep fake AI type

[15:43] things come coming through. Faking

[15:45] voices, faking even faces, right? How do

[15:49] you combat that? Well, it's being

[15:52] vigilant and it's trusting people but

[15:56] then verifying. Ronald Reagan said that,

[15:58] right? Trust but verify. And it's if

[16:01] something smells fishy, it probably is.

[16:04] If something looks a little strange, if

[16:06] this isn't out of the if this is out of

[16:08] the ordinary from Carrie to ask me to do

[16:11] something like this or to sh transfer

[16:14] this much money over for some gift

[16:16] cards, but don't tell anybody you're

[16:17] doing this because we want to be a

[16:18] surprise to the mayor. Okay. That's the

[16:21] kind of stuff. That's the kind of

[16:23] >> it's not your budget.

[16:25] >> We've seen that.

[16:26] >> Yeah,

[16:26] >> we've seen that happen. Can I I just

[16:28] want to make one point too. Your

[16:29] infrastructure isn't the only

[16:30] infrastructure you should be worried

[16:32] about, too. A lot of vendors that cities

[16:35] use. We've seen the vendors become

[16:38] compromised. And when the vendor becomes

[16:40] compromised, these hackers have access

[16:42] to their mail server. And then they can

[16:44] start following along between a

[16:46] conversation that someone at the city's

[16:47] having with the vendor and they can

[16:50] slide right in and say, "Hey, your first

[16:53] payment is due for this project that we

[16:55] were working on. can you please remit

[16:57] the payment to this account number? And

[17:00] so even though there is AI voice and all

[17:02] this different things, we strongly

[17:05] recommend that you have someone in the

[17:07] city that has a good relationship with

[17:08] the vendor and that you're building that

[17:10] relationship, you're becoming very

[17:11] familiar and that that person can then

[17:14] call to verify. So if you have somebody

[17:16] that can call and verify whoever the

[17:18] project managers or the vendor before

[17:20] any payments made, even if it you feel

[17:22] like it really is coming from them, that

[17:24] phone call will make the biggest

[17:25] difference. Yeah,

[17:26] >> because you can touch base with them and

[17:27] see there was about $1.2 million

[17:31] 1.4 at a member in Utah County and it

[17:36] could have been completely avoided by

[17:39] one phone call.

[17:41] >> And what it was was just like Josh was

[17:43] saying and a contractor hacked a or

[17:47] excuse me, the bad guys hacked a

[17:49] contractor's email, called the city and

[17:51] said, "You owe us this money for this

[17:53] project that we haven't been paid for.

[17:55] just send it to this other account

[17:56] because obviously the other one's not

[17:58] working. And so without a question, they

[18:00] thought, "Oh, you know what? That work

[18:01] has been done. Let's send it."

[18:04] >> They knew right when the project was

[18:05] wrapping up because they were following

[18:07] the email thread.

[18:08] >> So yeah,

[18:11] >> and we should we should worry about

[18:13] cyber security, but it's usually much

[18:15] simpler than just cyber security.

[18:18] >> Let me I have a few questions for you.

[18:20] Could I get into any one of your

[18:22] buildings? Could I go right now?

[18:24] >> This is our building.

[18:26] >> Yes.

[18:26] >> Could I Could I get in this building?

[18:28] >> Yes.

[18:29] >> Yeah, I could. I could get in this

[18:30] building. Okay. I already have. Be

[18:33] honest. Because we can other member

[18:36] entities. I know where there's back

[18:38] doors that are propped open because it's

[18:41] hot in there and the public works worker

[18:43] doesn't want to be working in the

[18:45] sweltering heat and so they leave it

[18:46] propped open just a little bit. I can

[18:48] tell you one thing. When I pulled in

[18:50] today, I just wanted to see. I pulled

[18:52] along the road here and instead of

[18:54] turning in this park turning up this

[18:56] parking lot that's right here. I pulled

[18:58] in right here where this garage door is.

[19:00] That garage door was wide open. Nobody

[19:02] sitting there.

[19:04] >> It's easy to get in.

[19:06] >> Okay.

[19:07] >> I actually noticed that.

[19:09] >> We had a sniper waiting for

[19:11] >> just in case.

[19:12] >> I noticed actually.

[19:15] >> Did I get into one of your emails? Do

[19:17] you know how common of a name Mike is?

[19:20] You know how many times I've been copied

[19:22] on an email on an email thread to a

[19:25] vendor, to council members, to mayors

[19:28] that I shouldn't have been just because

[19:30] my name's Mike and they start typing in

[19:32] Mike in their email and it autofills an

[19:34] email in and there I am. I'm in this

[19:38] email thread that I never should have

[19:40] been in. Now I take those and I delete

[19:42] them or I let the council or the mayor,

[19:44] whoever copy me on that notes, hey, you

[19:46] got the wrong mic here. But if I'm a bad

[19:48] guy, want to do bad things, I can get

[19:50] into those emails super quick and all of

[19:52] a sudden, like Josh was saying, find

[19:54] myself on an email chain about a payment

[19:57] request that I could take advantage of.

[19:59] It's one of those things that we need to

[20:01] make sure that we're educating our

[20:03] employees and being especially prepared

[20:07] for so that we don't become one of these

[20:10] other one of these statistics that we're

[20:12] talking about because that's called

[20:14] fraud.

[20:16] These things are fraud. Could I go out

[20:18] and steal one of your vehicles without

[20:20] even trying? I wouldn't even need to

[20:22] hotwire it.

[20:23] >> Why?

[20:25] >> Cuz the keys are in the visor.

[20:27] >> Nope.

[20:28] >> The keys don't even work.

[20:30] >> I'm from Arizona. No.

[20:32] >> No, I couldn't.

[20:33] >> I'm not from here. You can't steal my

[20:34] car.

[20:35] >> Oh, sorry.

[20:36] >> There is one down there. You're welcome

[20:38] to.

[20:40] >> We leave the keys.

[20:42] >> We leave those. That's a purposeful

[20:43] thing.

[20:45] It's got a big vacuum on the front.

[20:52] » An investigation.

[20:54] Someone stole more than $180,000

[20:57] from the county. The county auditor says

[21:00] they checked building permit numbers and

[21:02] their funds and found some weren't

[21:05] properly deposited. The state says a

[21:07] former building department manager

[21:10] admitted to stealing the cash. The state

[21:12] auditor's office found a lot of flaws

[21:15] and weaknesses they say in the county's

[21:17] cash receding.

[21:20] >> This stuff happens constantly here in the state.

[21:25] Why? It's because sometimes leadership

[21:26] booties have blind spots. We over rely

[21:29] on trust. We trust. We're much too

[21:31] trusting at times.

[21:34] We have sometimes we have weak internal

[21:36] controls. We need to strengthen our

[21:38] controls and make sure that our folks

[21:40] are following the protocols that we need

[21:42] to follow. We have poor followup or

[21:45] there's no kind of whistleblower hotline

[21:47] if we notice that something's going on

[21:48] that shouldn't be. We don't have a way

[21:51] for people to communicate. These are

[21:53] just some of the very common ways that

[21:55] we've seen fraud happen is because of

[21:58] these blind spots. One of the other huge claims that we had at the trust,

[22:03] which is a six-f figureure claim, um was

[22:06] there was a there was a council and they

[22:11] were given an invoice.

[22:14] And the uh the bad guys, they called up

[22:17] one of the council members and said,

[22:19] "Hey, we need you to pay this invoice,

[22:21] but instead of instead of um wire

[22:23] transferring it to us like like is in

[22:25] your policies, we need you to cut a

[22:27] check. can you cut us a check? Here's

[22:30] the name it needs to be. Here's the

[22:32] address to send it to and please just

[22:33] send it to us.

[22:35] And it's in their policies to not do

[22:39] that. It's in their policies

[22:42] to not do it. And they said, "Well, you

[22:43] know what? Just this one time so we can

[22:44] get it taken care of. Let's do it." So

[22:47] they did it. Six figures out the window

[22:50] that they never saw again.

[22:52] >> That's just stupid. Who writes a check

[22:53] for six figures,

[22:54] >> right?

[22:56] >> But it happened.

[22:59] And these are things that we need to

[23:00] make sure that as as leadership we're

[23:03] not blind to. Always trust but verify.

[23:06] Trust the employees that they're going

[23:08] to do the right thing. Trust the people

[23:11] on the other end but always verify. Like

[23:13] Josh said, have a personal relationship

[23:16] with a vendor that if something smells

[23:18] fishy, if something somebody's asking

[23:19] you to do something that is outside of

[23:21] what's written in a contract, outside of

[23:23] what's out normal protocols for you and

[23:26] your organization, make a phone call.

[23:29] Don't send an email. Make a phone call.

[23:32] Go on a visit. Don't send an email.

[23:35] Don't even send a text message. Those

[23:37] things can be intercepted super easy.

[23:39] Make a phone call. go in person and talk

[23:42] to somebody about it. Some other

[23:44] detection strategies that we can use,

[23:46] segregation of duties, have people

[23:48] responsible for different parts of

[23:50] procurement, payment, things like that.

[23:53] Check vendors, do audits, formal,

[23:56] informal type of audits that you guys

[23:57] can do as the council or or direct staff

[24:00] members to do. One of the greatest

[24:02] things we can do is complete the fraud

[24:04] risk assessment. Um, the state fraud

[24:06] risk assessment from the state auditor's

[24:08] office is a great great tool for us to

[24:11] use, especially for us as leadership and

[24:13] you guys as executive leadership here at

[24:14] the city to make sure that we have all

[24:18] of our things in place to help us avoid

[24:20] fraud. This fraud risk assessment is a

[24:23] just an easy little questionnaire um

[24:25] that you can go on to the auditor's

[24:27] website and make sure that you do. Have

[24:29] you guys had a chance to do that?

[24:31] >> Yes.

[24:32] >> Excellent. It's a

[24:34] >> excellent and that is one of the best

[24:37] tools that we have available to us to

[24:39] ensure that we have the segregation of

[24:41] duties that we are doing the right

[24:43] things to eliminate.

[24:45] >> Okay.

[24:45] >> And how safe people's passwords are.

[24:47] What is one of your online passwords

[24:49] currently?

[24:50] >> It is my dog's name and the year I

[24:52] graduated from high school.

[24:53] >> Oh, what kind of dog do you have?

[24:54] >> I have a 12pon.

[24:55] >> And what's its name?

[24:56] >> Jameson.

[24:57] And where did you go to school?

[24:59] >> Um, I went to school back in Greensburg,

[25:00] Pennsylvania.

[25:01] >> What school? Uh, Hfield Area Senior High

[25:03] School.

[25:03] >> Oh. When did you graduate?

[25:05] >> In 2009.

[25:06] >> Oh, great.

[25:08] >> It's like my cat's name and then just

[25:10] like a random number.

[25:11] >> Okay.

[25:12] >> You had this cat for a while?

[25:13] >> Yeah. She's my childhood pet.

[25:15] >> A And what's her name?

[25:16] >> Her name is Jolie.

[25:17] >> Jolie.

[25:18] >> Mhm.

[25:18] >> So, like a password of yours would be

[25:20] Jolie and then a number. Yeah.

[25:22] >> Like number one.

[25:23] >> Uh, like my birthday.

[25:24] >> Oh. When is your birthday?

[25:26] >> Uh, June 12th.

[25:27] >> Oh, nice. What year were you born?

[25:29] >> Uh, 95.

[25:30] >> Oh, great. So, Jolie 6 12 95. Got it.

[25:36] >> Gemma

[25:38] 1 2 3 spelled G E M M A.

[25:42] >> Well, most of them are Italian.

[25:44] >> Oh, beautiful.

[25:45] >> Yeah. So, like

[25:46] >> like what's a good Italian password?

[25:48] >> Uh, my grandma's name.

[25:50] >> What's your grandma's name?

[25:52] >> Uh, Maria.

[25:54] >> Maria. So, Maria is your password?

[25:59] >> Oh, yeah. And now you know my password.

[26:02] >> Oh yeah.

[26:03] >> Yeah.

[26:06] >> That was hard to watch.

[26:07] >> That was hard, right?

[26:11] >> That's the world we live in. I mean, it

[26:14] really is. And we've got to make sure

[26:17] that then what we have to do at the top

[26:20] here in this group, we have to set the

[26:23] tone. We have to set the tone with

[26:25] strong ethics and make sure that it goes

[26:28] from the top down. us as council members

[26:30] and from us as executive leadership, it

[26:33] works its way down all the way down to

[26:35] the team so that everybody is aware of

[26:38] the our expectations and the things that

[26:40] we're doing here at the top to avoid

[26:42] fraud. And we expect those same things

[26:44] of the employees and the the the

[26:46] stewards of the city. Okay. Other

[26:49] things, make sure you have a response

[26:51] plan. So if there is fraud that happens

[26:53] in your organization, investigate it

[26:55] immediately. If something is happening

[26:57] that that's not right, follow your HR

[27:00] and your legal process. Make sure you

[27:01] have a good process and plan in place,

[27:04] what to do if there's suspected fraud or

[27:07] a cyber security type of breach.

[27:09] Communicate openly about these things.

[27:11] Talk about it. Let the employees know

[27:13] what's going on. Don't hide things. Be

[27:16] upfront. Be transparent. and make sure

[27:19] that you report any kind of fraud that

[27:22] is going on because all that going to do

[27:23] is it's going to strengthen your

[27:24] policies and it's going to strengthen

[27:26] the resolve of everybody there so that

[27:28] we make sure that we are providing our

[27:30] employees the best uh fraud protection

[27:32] that we can. Okay, just a checklist for for you guys as elected officials

[27:37] that I thought of. Ask about your fraud

[27:39] risk assessment. You guys have it. Make

[27:40] sure that you've reviewed it and you

[27:42] know what it is. review your internal

[27:44] control reports that that you require of your employees. What what do you

[27:49] require stewards of the city do in order

[27:52] to ensure that they're combating fraud

[27:54] within their specific departments?

[27:56] Ensure you have whistleblower

[27:57] protections in place and an open door

[28:00] policy where people and and employees

[28:02] can come and let you know if they think

[28:04] something is is going wrong, if

[28:06] something is not up to the stuff. Okay.

[28:09] Demands transparency. demand

[28:11] transparency from your from your

[28:13] different department heads and from your

[28:15] stewards in the city to ensure that

[28:18] fraud isn't happening and don't ever

[28:20] bypass your processes. Whatever your

[28:22] process is, if it is to always make sure

[28:25] you write paper checks to your vendors,

[28:29] then do that. If somebody asks you to do

[28:31] a wire transfer and that's not your

[28:33] protocols, you like just this one time

[28:34] we'll do it to get them taken care of.

[28:36] Don't do that. follow your policies and

[28:39] don't bypass those processes.

[28:42] We have seen like Josh said is just the

[28:48] thing of not obeying and following the

[28:51] policies. If we could just make one

[28:52] phone call or just follow the simple

[28:54] policy, we can make these things go

[28:56] away. We don't end up with million

[28:58] dollars lost or six figures lost because

[29:02] somebody did something that they

[29:03] shouldn't have and took a shortcut and

[29:05] just made it a mistake that one time.

[29:08] Okay. Do you guys have any any

[29:10] questions? Any questions for me? Well,

[29:13] I've got one thing. So next council

[29:16] meeting just so you guys know and what

[29:18] was on our agenda already is we do have

[29:21] our auditor coming

[29:22] >> to give us another training on what are

[29:26] all of our processes what are our

[29:28] controls what is the process by which we

[29:31] operate here in the city. So plan on

[29:34] that to so you guys better understand

[29:36] what we do and how we do it. And and for

[29:39] those of you who don't know, uh this

[29:41] lovely lady in the beautiful yellow

[29:43] shirt is Charlene. Um so we're excited

[29:46] to have her and she's also working on

[29:48] our front uh our processes, our

[29:51] controls, uh the separation of kind of

[29:54] the duties and powers and who can

[29:56] authorize what. Um, and so we're we're

[30:00] doing a lot of really great things

[30:02] already down this path. So,

[30:04] >> perfect.

[30:04] >> Yeah, I I don't doubt that you already

[30:06] are. Just keep going. Keep going on the

[30:08] path. Know those policies. Set the tone

[30:10] as leadership. It's great. It's great

[30:12] that you're doing that.

[30:14] >> And don't, you know, tell the reporter

[30:16] on the street what your password is.

[30:17] >> Yeah.

[30:22] » Don't even click links for my IT

[30:24] department.

[30:27] ours or yours

[30:28] >> my work. I don't even click a reminder

[30:31] for training when in a reminder email. I

[30:34] go straight to the source.

[30:35] >> Yeah.

[30:36] >> I'm entitled in escrow and we send

[30:38] people we get wires all day every day.

[30:40] So,

[30:41] >> I'm sorry.

[30:41] >> And what we send wire instructions, we

[30:43] have to send them securely. Like we have

[30:44] a whole process um because we hear lots

[30:47] of horror stories about people

[30:49] >> intercepting wires. Anyway,

[30:53] >> yeah, like Ted was saying there, I'm

[30:56] assuming you've all received multiple

[30:57] emails lately

[30:59] >> from quote unquote me

[31:01] >> requesting some kind of stuff,

[31:04] >> right?

[31:04] >> And we we learned that a long time ago.

[31:06] Well, Dorl helped us learn that one. uh

[31:09] is that uh you know when those emails

[31:11] started coming asking for things and

[31:13] they were from the mayor just mayor

[31:16] >> make sure that you look at where it's

[31:17] coming from and you recognize it's not

[31:20] the mayor's email

[31:21] >> it's his name but not his not

[31:23] >> not his email address

[31:24] >> email address so

[31:26] >> now the game is they just send them to

[31:27] me and say sorry I'm not going to do

[31:28] this for you

[31:31] >> forward it to you

[31:33] >> but they say look for typos look for

[31:35] spelling errors

[31:36] >> look for typos spelling errors

[31:38] >> unfamiliar email addresses.

[31:40] >> Look for if it's if somebody's name is

[31:42] spelled with an L instead of an L, it

[31:44] has a number one.

[31:46] >> Yeah.

[31:46] >> Um because it looks exactly the same. Or

[31:49] an O is a zero and it looks almost the

[31:53] same. Those are the little things that we pay attention to in emails

[31:58] >> because all of our emails are online.

[32:00] Everybody

[32:02] >> everybody knows them.

[32:03] >> Yeah. What's funny though is it puts

[32:04] pressure on us to not have a typo in our

[32:08] email. Yes.

[32:09] >> Or something wrong because you don't

[32:10] want somebody for me because I have to

[32:12] send stuff out to a lot of people. I

[32:14] don't want them to think that I'm fraud.

[32:15] >> Yes. Exactly.

[32:16] >> So, I have to be extra careful.

[32:17] >> You have to be extra vigilant with that,

[32:19] right?

[32:19] >> Yeah.

[32:20] >> See, if I spelled everything right, then

[32:22] they know it was it wasn't me.

[32:26] » As long as you're consistent, Brian,

[32:28] then we know

[32:29] >> I'm an engineer. They expect it to be

[32:33] as long as you're consistent.

[32:34] >> Wonderful. Any other questions, you

[32:36] guys?

[32:38] >> No, I have I wrote down some questions,

[32:40] but it sounds like we'll be asking those

[32:42] next meeting.

[32:43] >> Yep. On how we operate? Hold those till

[32:46] next week. Yes. Wait.

[32:48] >> The state auditing standards have not

[32:50] been updated for years and years. And

[32:53] there's things that you're talking about

[32:55] in here, for example, internal controls

[32:58] that they gloss over. Mhm. And

[33:00] >> I know that they can't get in depth in a lot of areas, but you guys have any

[33:06] interaction if you're sharing ensuring

[33:09] as many as city municipality or

[33:14] government municipalities as they are, I

[33:17] would think that some of your input

[33:19] would be valuable to to make some

[33:22] changes maybe in delving a little bit

[33:26] more of the auditors into some of these

[33:30] internal control issues and and other

[33:32] matters.

[33:34] Is there any correspondence between you

[33:37] and them with any recommendations for

[33:39] updating some of their standards to to

[33:42] be more more in line with what is being

[33:46] encountered in this day and age?

[33:48] >> Yeah, I think Josh, you correct me if

[33:50] I'm wrong. I think Steve, the CEO, is

[33:52] actually doing a lot of that, right?

[33:54] Yeah, SE steam works pretty closely with whoever the state auditor is. And

[34:00] so the the fraud risk assessment, it's

[34:04] high level, right? It's 30,000 ft and it

[34:06] just talks about some of the some of the

[34:09] highle controls. That fraud risk

[34:11] assessment came from the previous

[34:12] auditor, not our current state auditor,

[34:14] but the previous one. Um, and the the

[34:18] points assigned to there, they in our

[34:21] opinion, you know, we don't know if

[34:23] those the weight that they carry are as

[34:26] important as maybe the cities value

[34:28] them. I think that the single biggest

[34:30] thing that's important in there is the

[34:32] separation of duties, but they don't

[34:34] assign a ton of points to that one. Um,

[34:36] but we've got a new state auditor and we

[34:39] are working more closely with them and

[34:40] we try to do things in conjunction with

[34:42] them so that our members are doing

[34:44] things and and rolling out the latest

[34:46] and greatest. Um, and I think this new

[34:47] state auditor is trying to push some

[34:50] more updates and has his own staff that

[34:52] are going out and trying to do things. I

[34:54] can't speak to exactly what some of

[34:56] those newer items are, but he is trying

[34:59] to build on what the last state auditor

[35:01] did. Um, and we're so we do work

[35:04] together and we share with them the

[35:06] areas that we see their their

[35:08] vulnerabilities because we know when

[35:10] there's a claim. We know when there's an

[35:13] issue because the fact that we insure

[35:16] about % of the cities and towns. So when

[35:18] we see a weak point, we try to share

[35:22] that so that we can sh up areas across

[35:24] the state. And Mike's team tries to do a

[35:26] good job of educating as as new stuff

[35:29] comes up as well. So

[35:31] >> well, I know I'm professional that I've

[35:34] done some forensic auditing and I

[35:36] there's there's all kinds of disclaimers

[35:39] in the state auditing process that we

[35:42] we're not guaranteeing this, we're not

[35:44] guaranteeing that. And I would think

[35:46] that that would be helpful to to a a

[35:50] city or any government entity to to have

[35:54] that. I mean, that's why we're why that

[35:57] auditing requirement is in place to help

[35:59] the cities better far it out where there

[36:02] may be issues and and I don't know that

[36:05] there's to me there there's a big hole

[36:08] there lacking. Well, and for what it's

[36:10] worth, the the auditing firm that you

[36:12] guys use directly, the private auditing

[36:14] firm, I I think those guys do a lot of

[36:17] the heavy lifting. And so, while the

[36:19] state auditors, they are certainly

[36:21] trying to do a lot there, there's only

[36:22] so much they can do because they've got

[36:24] a certain amount of staff members and

[36:26] there's a lot of entities in the state.

[36:28] But but make sure that you are putting

[36:32] your personal auditing firm to the task

[36:34] and making sure that because they're the

[36:36] ones that we see that are catching

[36:38] stuff.

[36:38] >> Well, I I agree, but they're uh I don't

[36:41] want to belabor a point, but they and

[36:45] they're following the state guidelines,

[36:47] but the state guidelines are often quite

[36:49] weak and the things that they're

[36:51] supposed to do.

[36:52] >> Well, we just got an update. This was

[36:54] last year. Um, and this is an update

[36:56] that came from the state. Part of it is

[36:59] it's legislative though. I don't want to

[37:00] give the state auditor's office too much

[37:02] credit, but um, they they shed up an

[37:06] area that we thought was very

[37:07] vulnerable. There was a bonding

[37:10] requirement for your treasure and and

[37:12] the normal fidelity bond was just what

[37:14] they required and they had a certain

[37:15] amount based on the amount of budget

[37:18] that your that your entity has. They now

[37:20] require that to be crime insurance. and

[37:23] crime insurance is so much more robust

[37:25] than a fidelity bond. And so we are

[37:27] seeing areas like that that are getting

[37:29] better where they're they're requiring

[37:31] more. And so we're happy to see that and

[37:34] we're right in line with them. All of

[37:36] our members, we we've been given crime

[37:38] to our members in lie of fidelity bond

[37:41] since 2016. We actually went to the

[37:44] money management council for the state

[37:46] of Utah and said, "Hey, we realize that

[37:48] you're requiring a bond, but a lot of

[37:50] our members have crime and it's better

[37:52] than a bond. So, can you make an

[37:54] adjustment to your rules so that we can

[37:56] also accept crime in lie of a bond?"

[37:59] Well, not only did they do that

[38:00] adjustment, but just a few short years

[38:02] later, they said, "You're right. Crime

[38:04] is better. We're done with bonds." So,

[38:06] we're seeing some movement and some

[38:07] traction, but you know, it's government

[38:10] and it takes time. So, It just takes

[38:13] time.

[38:13] >> So

[38:14] >> yeah,

[38:15] >> in my professional life, I deal with

[38:18] insurance companies.

[38:19] >> Um, and the insurance companies have

[38:22] requirements for us in industry um to be

[38:26] insured.

[38:27] >> Sure.

[38:27] >> Right. F Global, that kind of thing,

[38:29] right? You're you're familiar with

[38:30] those.

[38:31] >> Um, do you have set standards that are

[38:35] above and beyond what the state

[38:36] requires? Because I'd rather the state

[38:38] stay the hell out of my business. As a

[38:41] city, I want to be as robust as we can,

[38:43] but I don't want to do something that

[38:45] the state requires Salt Lake to do that

[38:48] they have to do differently to require

[38:50] me to do it. Right. I But are there are

[38:52] there standards that you set

[38:56] as as the insurer

[38:59] of your members that that you say you

[39:02] must meet these even though they're

[39:03] above and beyond the state require?

[39:05] >> So from a crime standpoint, we are not

[39:07] the carrier for your crime policy. If

[39:09] you have a property policy with us, we

[39:11] purchase a crime policy for you and it's

[39:13] no additional charge. And that crime

[39:16] carrier, they have their own

[39:18] requirements that they set forth.

[39:20] >> Um, and more than anything that they

[39:22] just want to know that our members are

[39:23] doing something because so many entities

[39:26] are doing nothing. And so by virtue of

[39:29] doing something, by having something in

[39:30] place, so their requirement is that this

[39:33] the fraud risk assessment or an

[39:34] equivalent of a fraud risk assessment.

[39:36] Sure. Now, I realize that's just state

[39:38] protection levels, right? But then we

[39:40] also at the Utah Local Government Trust

[39:42] have policies that are on our own paper,

[39:44] liability, property, workers comp, auto,

[39:46] all those. And

[39:49] we we don't members are meeting all

[39:52] these different requirements as far as,

[39:54] you know, we don't have like a white

[39:56] sheet that says what you need to do, but

[39:58] we do look very very closely at what

[40:01] protocols you have in place. We look

[40:02] very closely at your leadership. We look

[40:04] very closely at your loss history. We

[40:07] look closely at your risk management.

[40:10] >> Tailor fitting. Is that what you're saying? As as you as we come on,

[40:14] you're tailor fitting to make sure that

[40:16] we're meeting we don't have some hard

[40:20] >> We're selective.

[40:21] >> Okay.

[40:21] >> Um we're selective. So for new members,

[40:23] um got a lot of members. For instance,

[40:26] we had a county member just a couple

[40:27] years ago that said, "We're just getting

[40:29] hammered in pricing. We'd love to join

[40:31] you guys. can you take a look at our

[40:33] programs and see if we're a good fit?

[40:34] They were not a good fit. We did not

[40:36] accept them. Um, we've had other members

[40:38] that have had leadership issues. Um,

[40:42] they've had issues with with consistent

[40:44] claims. They don't have a good safety

[40:46] culture. And it's very rare because

[40:49] usually our teams, my team and Mike's

[40:52] team can usually get with our members

[40:54] that are struggling and we can get

[40:56] programs in place and we can turn the

[40:57] corner and we can start working with

[40:59] their leadership. And generally

[41:01] speaking, we're very very successful in

[41:03] doing that. Yeah. But if we have a

[41:05] member that we're unable to work with,

[41:08] um it's rare. I've been at the trust for

[41:09] 18 years and I've only seen it twice.

[41:11] But we will not renew the account if we

[41:14] have to because

[41:15] >> And that's protection for

[41:16] >> Yeah. And that's protection for all. But

[41:17] I'm I'm also saying if you guys have

[41:20] additional standards beyond maybe what's

[41:22] what Wayne says is weak at the state

[41:24] level, um that would actually be

[41:27] protection for the whole trust, right?

[41:29] So,

[41:30] >> so that's kind of what I'm asking

[41:31] because when I when I deal if I switch

[41:33] from FM Global to another company and I

[41:36] end up spending millions of dollars to

[41:38] upgrade a plant to meet their their

[41:41] standards, right? Um, are you doing that

[41:44] for the other members? I mean, that to

[41:47] me as a you say member, it makes me feel

[41:50] like I'm I'm part of a whole, right? And

[41:52] so are you doing that to shore up what

[41:55] Wayne has pointed out as some weaknesses

[41:57] or other weaknesses in the state to make

[41:59] sure that us and other entities that are

[42:02] also being are also part of that that

[42:04] membership um meeting those standards.

[42:08] >> So we don't just to be candid with you

[42:09] we don't have a line in the sand that

[42:11] says if you do not do these specific

[42:14] items no membership of the trust. The

[42:16] line in the sand has to do with

[42:19] performance and as we see it if you've

[42:21] got some big red flags those red flags

[42:23] can become a problem but we haven't

[42:25] wrote a prescriptive

[42:26] >> okay

[42:27] >> you know

[42:27] >> that's what I'm asking

[42:29] >> but we do have we do have a lot of

[42:32] programs in place that do incentivize

[42:33] our members to go above and beyond

[42:36] >> and we are being made aware of these

[42:39] things so that we can

[42:41] >> long as long as that's there and

[42:43] >> absolutely

[42:44] >> and those programs are very very

[42:46] successful and they drive the the safety

[42:51] and loss prevention culture at majority

[42:53] of our entities. Um I'll be candid with

[42:56] you as well. Utah is a little bit

[42:58] different of a mix than we see at other

[43:01] states and we're lucky for that. Housing

[43:04] authorities inside of it in California

[43:07] and Nevada insurance companies don't

[43:09] want to touch them. We've got hot crack

[43:11] pipes that are starting fires. We've got

[43:13] disputes with residents. We've got a lot

[43:15] of people from from tribal Africa that are wanting to fight, you know,

[43:21] their other guy down the street. And

[43:22] we've even seen it here a little bit

[43:24] with Molotov cocktails. It's a problem.

[43:27] But in Utah, it's such a different a

[43:29] different um demographic generally

[43:32] speaking. And so I, you know, part of us

[43:35] is we're we're we benefit from that, but

[43:38] we also do take it to the next level.

[43:40] And we are very very intentional with

[43:42] who we allow into the pool. But then we

[43:45] also we just had a meeting on Friday

[43:48] where we have identified groups that are

[43:51] not getting in line with our programs.

[43:54] We have a lot of members. We have about

[43:55] 650. We've identified six six groups

[43:59] that we need to work very very closely

[44:02] with. We've got the data to show how

[44:05] their performance is and how they're

[44:06] doing and what their culture is. um six

[44:08] is great out of 650, but it's still six.

[44:12] And so our efforts will be concentrated

[44:15] towards those six members and they will

[44:17] be put on a program and a plan to get

[44:19] them going in a different direction. And

[44:21] the issue, the biggest thing that stands

[44:23] out to us is frequency. Everyone is im

[44:26] is going to have a severity claim at

[44:27] some point. Every no one's immune from

[44:29] it, but frequency is our big red flag.

[44:32] That's where we can see where the issues

[44:33] lie

[44:34] >> and we can drill down on those very

[44:36] quickly. and we do. So, we're always we

[44:39] always got our our radar out. We're

[44:41] always looking to see where we need to

[44:43] put our attention and and um

[44:47] you know, we still pay claims. We pay

[44:50] lots of claims every year. But

[44:54] >> yeah, we don't have a lot of claims, but

[44:55] we have a big claim. And just so you

[44:57] guys know, you know, since for the last

[45:00] seven months or eight months, you know,

[45:02] Josh and I have been on the phone on

[45:05] average probably once a month.

[45:06] >> Yeah. Lots. And we've met we've met

[45:08] meetings in person and

[45:10] >> so just to make sure that we're doing

[45:12] things, you know, we're working on our

[45:14] processes on how do we file claims so

[45:18] that we're not footing bills that really

[45:19] should per our policy be going to the

[45:21] trust. um what processes do we need to

[45:24] have when something that could be a

[45:26] claim is in place and do our staff know

[45:30] which questions to ask, what things to

[45:33] say, what things to commit us to and

[45:36] what not to commit us to. So, we're

[45:38] working on those as well.

[45:39] >> And we want to applaud you for your

[45:41] efforts and as as a mountain community

[45:45] uh for fire protection.

[45:46] >> Oh, yeah. Um truly really that's another

[45:50] thing that we keep a close eye on and we

[45:52] wish everybody that lived up against the bench or above and beyond we're

[45:57] doing what you guys are doing.

[45:58] >> So we give you an A+ in that area and we

[46:02] may lean on you in the future to help

[46:03] other organizations achieve that same

[46:05] level. So

[46:06] >> Ted's always happy to help.

[46:09] >> Will you repeat that please?

[46:12] >> Killing it. you know, because we've been

[46:14] doing it for for such a long time, all

[46:16] of our residents are most all of our

[46:19] residents are on board, right? And that

[46:21] makes a big difference when when the

[46:23] community overall sees the benefit and

[46:26] that they take responsibility for their

[46:28] own property and then as a whole, then

[46:31] it becomes better. And then under the

[46:33] leadership of our fire department and

[46:35] our fire chief, TED there, um it helps

[46:38] um everyone feel a little bit more

[46:40] secure. Um the risk is still there, but

[46:43] At least the mitigation has been done.

[46:45] >> Well, we it makes us feel a lot better

[46:48] because there's a lot of exposure and in

[46:51] a community like this obviously. Um so

[46:54] we're glad you guys are doing you know

[46:56] the right things in that area.

[46:57] >> They're just patting themselves on the

[46:58] back back there.

[47:01] >> I think we've also there

[47:04] on a whole our residents are also

[47:07] extremely grateful for the way we have

[47:10] worked on the mitigation efforts. We've

[47:12] got a ways to go, which everybody does,

[47:16] but on a whole, we're really devoting as

[47:18] much as the resources we can to making

[47:22] preparations and movements towards

[47:24] mitigating our fire of exposure. So,

[47:26] >> well, here's to a successful monsoon

[47:28] season with lots of rain and minimal

[47:30] light.

[47:32] >> Perfect. Well, wonderful. Is there

[47:34] anything else, Steve?

[47:36] >> We're glad to have you.

[47:37] >> Yeah. They're gonna send us

[47:40] >> during his trans.

[47:43] >> He was on Zoom for a minute.

[47:46] >> Brian's on too now

[47:49] >> presentation tonight. So

[47:52] >> wonderful. Okay, if there's anything

[47:54] else, gentlemen,

[47:56] >> thanks for coming.

[47:56] >> Yeah, thank you so much.

[47:57] >> Thanks for having us. Thanks for having

[47:58] us out.

[47:59] >> We appreciate it. Thank you.

[48:01] >> I should have you teach me how to

[48:03] >> Okay. Um, we will move to the next one.

[48:05] That is crap.

[48:05] >> You're welcome to stay or you're welcome

[48:07] to get home to your families.

[48:09] >> Go to Richfield. We got to go to

[48:10] Richfield. Really?

[48:13] >> Drive safe.

[48:14] >> Yeah, I think I

[48:15] >> was going to say that's 10 driving home.

[48:17] >> An hour and a half.

[48:18] >> Yeah,

[48:19] >> that's not even the opposite way of

[48:21] home.

[48:22] >> We'll get there before we're done.

[48:23] >> Yeah.

[48:24] >> Thanks again.

[48:25] >> Hey, thank you guys. Thank you for

[48:27] coming.

[48:27] >> Okay, we're going to move to number

[48:28] three. This is the discussion for the

[48:30] proposed resolution 2026-44

[48:34] approving the ratifying the year-end

[48:36] budgetary and accounting adjustments for

[48:38] the 2025 2026 fiscal year.

[48:41] >> And what's really cool

[48:43] >> number three? I'm right.

[48:45] >> Is that's what I said.

[48:47] >> Did I say two? Three.

[48:48] >> No, you said three.

[48:49] >> Okay. Just making sure.

[48:50] >> We get to hear all this from Charlene.

[48:52] >> Yes, you do. You know that couldn't have

[48:55] been a better segment into what my job

[48:58] you all just hired me to do

[49:01] >> is work on internal controls. I have 40

[49:05] years of experience

[49:07] and and this is when you say yeah you

[49:10] look like you started when you were 10.

[49:12] But

[49:14] um in working with city governments,

[49:16] government entities, all fund

[49:18] accounting, internal controls, I have

[49:20] been audited 92 times for internal

[49:24] controls and have passed every single

[49:26] one of them. And I have been working

[49:29] with the mayor and with Lori and Jod.

[49:31] We've already started to put things in

[49:33] place. Uh Mr. Hatterly of the auditor's

[49:36] office and I have had several

[49:38] conversations and we have a list of

[49:40] internal controls that we will be

[49:42] putting forth uh with the mayor. I am so

[49:46] honored, privileged to work with you and

[49:49] excited and I can't tell you how

[49:51] wonderful both Lori and Jod have been to

[49:54] work with. They have just been welcomed

[49:56] me with open arms and I appreciate that

[49:58] immensely. But a lot of your concerns

[50:02] about internal controls will be

[50:04] addressed within the next six months

[50:07] because not only will they be a part of

[50:09] it but so will I and that will create

[50:12] it. I've also met with the Polaris the

[50:15] gentleman over the Polaris software and

[50:17] he will be taking I will be taking over

[50:19] just the security piece of it and then

[50:22] we will be dividing these

[50:23] responsibilities out so that everybody

[50:27] sleeps well at night and this this

[50:30] organization and this city is protected.

[50:33] All right. Uh the item before you this

[50:36] evening, and I have been to lots of city

[50:38] council meetings and brutes,

[50:40] >> so thank you for having me.

[50:41] >> So we don't scare you.

[50:43] >> Not at all.

[50:43] >> Okay. Good.

[50:45] >> Not at all. The item before you was

[50:48] simply a resolution and a housekeeping

[50:51] item. Um when you approved the budget,

[50:54] the last revised budget, there were a

[50:56] couple of uh items that needed to be

[50:59] fixed. Your transfers in and out need to

[51:02] balance.

[51:03] Okay. And there was a couple of numbers

[51:06] that didn't quite balance i.e. the

[51:09] transfer from a transfer from the CIP

[51:12] fund the the public work CIP fund number

[51:15] did not match the transfer to the

[51:18] general fund and so therefore that has

[51:20] been corrected. Also, uh there was a

[51:23] sale of a capital asset

[51:26] that uh was supposed to be transferred

[51:29] to the EMS CIP fund, but there was no

[51:32] transfer in in the EMS CIP fund. So, we

[51:35] needed to do that. The other thing that

[51:37] is also very important is that when you

[51:40] have budgetary resolutions, you need to

[51:42] identify a funding source. And so, uh,

[51:46] that is included in that budget that Jod

[51:49] put forth with the resolution. Those

[51:52] funding sources have been identified.

[51:53] They won't aren't necessarily called out

[51:55] in resolution. So, I would recommend

[51:58] that you all consider approving this

[52:00] budget. I have spoken with John

[52:02] Hatterly. He said that um it is fine to

[52:05] approve it this evening. Even though it

[52:07] did pertain to the appropriation for the

[52:09] FY2526 budget, it was fine. Let's go

[52:12] ahead and get it corrected. So, this is

[52:14] just a

[52:16] So can you explain to me uh when you say it needed to have a a a

[52:22] budget that it was tied to? So is

[52:25] >> we had kind of decided to to move away

[52:28] from our CIP funds

[52:31] >> and and do general fund and have a have

[52:34] a general fund. Now this is a little bit

[52:35] different because we sold the the

[52:37] firetruck with the intent of using part

[52:40] of that money to to get a new a new

[52:42] ambulance. Um,

[52:44] but it I mean it comes down to semantics

[52:47] unless it's a legal requirement um that

[52:50] we have a CIP fund. Um,

[52:52] >> it's not.

[52:53] >> So, again, I'm I'm fine I'm fine with

[52:56] it, but I just was kind of curious. Does

[52:58] it have to be a CIP fund or could we say

[53:00] we're going to put this money into the

[53:01] general fund and we're going to budget

[53:02] out of the

[53:03] >> for future? Yes. For the past, we just

[53:06] got to fix it.

[53:06] >> Yeah. And fixing fix. I just want to

[53:09] future. No, you can buy your ambulances

[53:11] and everything else out of your general

[53:13] fund because you have public safety in

[53:15] your general fund. Correct.

[53:16] >> You're just fine to do that. Okay.

[53:18] >> This is just simply like I said, and you

[53:20] do have to have a funding source, which

[53:22] oftentimes if you sell a capital asset,

[53:24] then that's your funding source. Um, in

[53:27] this particular one, we Lori and I

[53:29] simply tuck that away in saving for an

[53:32] ambulance.

[53:34] >> So, that's what we've got it

[53:36] >> is what it's there. Yeah. And that's

[53:38] exactly what it's

[53:39] >> for. Now, these transfers from what I

[53:41] understand uh not necessarily have been

[53:44] done based on some discussions that

[53:45] you've had with bond counsel and some

[53:47] decisions that you have made in the

[53:49] past. So, they may or may not be done.

[53:51] We just simply need to make everything

[53:52] pass.

[53:52] >> Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. It makes

[53:54] sense the the way it's put together, but

[53:56] I just wanted to know going forward

[53:58] because we've talked about getting out

[54:00] of saving for things and actually taking

[54:03] loans for things because we we feel at

[54:05] this point that it's it's financially

[54:08] better to do that.

[54:09] >> That's absolutely just fine.

[54:11] >> Okay, perfect. Thank you.

[54:14] >> Yeah. And as Charlene, you know, she's

[54:16] getting her feet wet. She's

[54:17] understanding exactly how we're

[54:18] operating versus how others have. Um,

[54:22] you know, we're we're going to dive back

[54:24] into that conversation and and take a

[54:26] look and and and figure it out cuz we

[54:29] did have a plan, you know, as you

[54:31] probably remember, to pull those monies

[54:34] out of savings to then potentially pay

[54:37] off that one bond to increase our

[54:39] ability to cover those. and it ended up

[54:42] being that the bond that we are looking

[54:45] at which is a future discussion item for

[54:48] tonight I believe if I remember yep um

[54:51] number six so we'll talk about that

[54:53] there more um but we ended up deciding

[54:56] to keep the bond we were going to pay

[54:58] off and so we ended up putting those

[55:00] funds back in

[55:01] >> and and so we get less we take a

[55:04] >> so as we look at those budgets going

[55:06] forward we'll be able to to kind of get

[55:09] us back to where we wanted to with

[55:11] getting all the proper eyes dotted and

[55:14] te's crossed.

[55:18] » Perfect.

[55:19] >> Yeah. Do you have do you guys have any

[55:21] questions?

[55:22] >> No.

[55:22] >> I'm going to open it up a little bit

[55:24] beyond the agenda to a degree.

[55:26] >> This is the first time you guys have met

[55:28] Charlene if my memory serves me right.

[55:31] >> Charlene and I have spoken.

[55:33] >> Yes.

[55:34] >> Um they're they're they haven't made a a

[55:37] long-term decision. They made a

[55:38] short-term decision and so your name's

[55:40] still in

[55:41] >> for that for Mount Nebo.

[55:43] >> For what?

[55:44] >> Mount Nebo. I talked to you about Mount

[55:45] Nebo.

[55:46] >> Yes, she did. Yes.

[55:47] >> Suma. One of the two. I can't remember.

[55:49] >> Yes.

[55:49] >> So, they made a short-term decision for

[55:51] now and then we're going to get

[55:53] >> Okay. Just to give you a little

[55:54] background, maybe if you've got just a

[55:56] couple of minutes. I have worked for the

[55:58] South Utah Valley Solid Waste District

[56:00] for 35 years. I'm a stayer. I've only

[56:03] had five jobs in the last four years. I

[56:06] was the accounting manager for Provo

[56:07] City for 12 years and the finance

[56:09] director for South Jordan and Draper

[56:11] City for eight. And so, um, I I do have

[56:15] a little bit of experience right now. I

[56:17] also have a full-time job. Um, I run an

[56:20] affordable housing executive director of

[56:22] an affordable housing organization, so I

[56:24] understand real estate extremely well.

[56:27] Um, when you said we wire transfer back

[56:29] and forth all the time. I I buy and sell

[56:32] hundreds of houses. I've got six

[56:34] affordable housing projects going in the

[56:36] state of Utah right now. Um I am

[56:38] considering retiring in about five years

[56:40] and this is one of my jobs that I'd like

[56:42] to keep. My daughter told me, she says,

[56:44] "Oh, mom, does that mean you're going to

[56:46] retire and only work 40 hours a week?"

[56:50] >> Yeah, probably. So anyway, I am honored

[56:53] to work with all of you and thank you uh

[56:56] for having me.

[56:58] >> We're excited to have you.

[56:59] >> Yeah, thank you.

[57:01] Okay. So, I am going to stay while you

[57:04] possibly approve this.

[57:06] >> Perfect.

[57:07] >> Are you driving home tonight?

[57:09] >> No, I'm actually in Oram.

[57:10] >> Okay.

[57:11] >> Home is St. George.

[57:12] >> I know. That's why I was That's why I

[57:13] was asking if we needed to rush and get

[57:16] >> two nights. I'm always in Oram at our

[57:18] ORM office. So, I work Tuesday and

[57:19] Wednesday in ORM and then I drive back

[57:22] down and work um Thursday, Friday,

[57:24] Saturday, Sunday, and Monday somewhere

[57:27] else in the state or from my house.

[57:31] Exactly.

[57:32] >> What day you get off?

[57:35] >> I don't know. 2000 something. I don't

[57:37] usually

[57:39] sleeping.

[57:40] >> I am a widow. I will be I been a widow

[57:43] for three and a half years. And so

[57:44] between me and my two puppies, I have to

[57:47] have something to do. And this is this

[57:50] keeps me busy.

[57:51] >> Keeps you young,

[57:51] >> you know. It does. I think

[57:52] >> Keeps your brain sharp and

[57:54] >> Yeah. And you know Alzheimer's is not

[57:56] going to happen because my kids don't

[57:57] want to take care of me. So there you

[57:58] go.

[58:02] We are grateful to have you.

[58:04] >> So, thank you so much.

[58:05] >> So, and

[58:07] >> so just for your information, when

[58:09] you're able to join us here at council,

[58:12] um you know, we have kind of some some

[58:14] rules on how we operate within the

[58:16] council meeting.

[58:18] >> Um so, when the community is here, we

[58:21] don't have anybody from the community

[58:22] here except for, but he's pseudo

[58:25] community. Um

[58:28] I you know we try and restrict those

[58:31] comments that interrupt the flow of the

[58:33] meeting but as staff and you have

[58:36] something to input please feel free.

[58:38] >> Okay I will

[58:39] >> just like Wayne did earlier.

[58:40] >> For the most part though I have been to

[58:43] so many council meetings you noticed I

[58:45] was very quiet. I wanted to jump up and

[58:47] go you know you hired me for that. You

[58:49] know you hired me for that me for that

[58:51] too. But I do know protocol and and very

[58:55] much respect that. So,

[58:56] >> but well, he's saying you can speak up

[58:58] on anything.

[58:58] >> That's what I'm saying.

[58:59] >> He's inviting you to speak up.

[59:01] >> For the most part, I'm very careful

[59:02] >> and and let me know when the fire hose

[59:04] gets down so I can start asking you

[59:06] question because I I I get pretty

[59:09] >> He's passionate.

[59:10] >> He dives in the weeds.

[59:13] >> That's cool. I love that. I I love to

[59:15] have discussions with the auditors. I

[59:16] mean, John and I made friends instantly

[59:19] and and it's been

[59:20] >> it's been it's been a joy to do this.

[59:24] Like I said, Lori's been extremely

[59:26] helpful, so has Jod in just helping me

[59:28] kind of get my feet on the ground, but I

[59:30] was able to tear into the budget and

[59:32] dissect it and and pretty soon I feel

[59:36] like I will be comfortable to present

[59:37] you with financial statements

[59:40] at your meetings.

[59:41] >> Wonderful. Well, Charlene, thank you so

[59:43] much.

[59:44] >> Nice. Thank you.

[59:45] >> Okay, we are going to move to number

[59:47] four with our proposed auditing

[59:50] services. So this is on the agenda

[59:51] because we discussed this last council

[59:54] meeting about sending um our auditors to

[59:56] RFP. Um I then you know called each of

[1:00:00] you when after my discussion with um the

[1:00:04] auditor concerning the contract um and

[1:00:07] we I gained more insight there um as I

[1:00:11] discussed with each of you um and so we

[1:00:13] have decided not to go to RFP right now

[1:00:17] though we are going to send all of our

[1:00:19] professional services um to RFP in

[1:00:23] January. um if we sent it to RFP right

[1:00:26] now in kind of right at the beginning of

[1:00:28] the auditing uh season

[1:00:31] uh probably wouldn't go so well for us.

[1:00:34] We might not have many because most

[1:00:35] people are already booked out. Also, the

[1:00:39] contract from uh our current auditors

[1:00:42] was actually just a pricing model and

[1:00:45] not an engagement model. So, it was just

[1:00:48] saying if you go with us, this is what

[1:00:50] it will be costing wise for the next six

[1:00:52] years. So, he's excited to to join in on

[1:00:55] the RFP process in January. He thinks

[1:00:58] that's a great idea. He's actually set

[1:00:59] it into his calendar to email me and

[1:01:02] remind me that we are headed to audit or

[1:01:04] RFP. So, very impressed.

[1:01:08] >> I've done research on on the Larsson

[1:01:11] group and they're very well respected in

[1:01:14] what they do. Um, and I don't know that

[1:01:19] I would want to change. I know they

[1:01:22] recommend it, but with the with what

[1:01:25] just as as part of my research, they are

[1:01:28] the best in the state

[1:01:32] um by leaps and bounds. And I am not

[1:01:35] afraid of audits and I think audits are

[1:01:37] a way for us to get better and always

[1:01:40] look for the best auditors when I do

[1:01:42] that. And I'm used to aerospace. I'm

[1:01:44] used to getting audited weekly,

[1:01:45] literally. Um, and

[1:01:49] I I I'm impressed with what I saw from I

[1:01:52] mean I I've looked at them before, but

[1:01:54] never looked at them as far as okay,

[1:01:55] let's dig into the company. Let's find

[1:01:57] out what other people are thinking of

[1:01:58] them. Find out what other auditors are

[1:02:00] thinking of them. Find out what the

[1:02:02] state thinks of them. And everybody

[1:02:04] holds them as the gold standard in the

[1:02:07] state. So just as as as we're as we get

[1:02:10] into it once we do go to RFP that's

[1:02:12] something to think about that they are

[1:02:16] really really good.

[1:02:18] >> I think with that I think the company is

[1:02:20] really good. We've used them for a

[1:02:22] while. I think part of that maybe more

[1:02:24] external control then is not having the

[1:02:28] same person be our auditor from that

[1:02:30] company for too many years. Um we

[1:02:33] rotate.

[1:02:33] >> Yeah. They they rotate yearly yearly.

[1:02:36] And that's what I like because some

[1:02:38] others don't and that they have an

[1:02:40] account manager who's or auditor who's

[1:02:42] over you and they get comfortable. So

[1:02:45] knowing that they rotate every year is

[1:02:47] very is very reassuring to me that

[1:02:50] they're not just stuck with the same

[1:02:52] relationships because it's easy in a

[1:02:54] small town to build a trusting

[1:02:55] relationship that may or may not be

[1:02:58] there. Well, I think that's why we were

[1:03:00] looking at that is because we didn't,

[1:03:02] you know, with our previous employee, we

[1:03:04] just wanted to make sure the

[1:03:05] relationship wasn't too close.

[1:03:08] >> And so that's why we we're talking about

[1:03:13] clarify

[1:03:15] that

[1:03:20] » you said all contracts.

[1:03:23] I thought our plan was to send all

[1:03:26] contracts to our professional

[1:03:27] >> all professional contracts.

[1:03:31] >> Sorry. For longer than a year.

[1:03:35] >> Yeah. And we just signed Charlene. So I

[1:03:37] don't know that we want to send that

[1:03:39] back out.

[1:03:39] >> The professional services. So the ones

[1:03:42] I'm discussing, thank you for that

[1:03:43] request for clarification. most of our

[1:03:45] professional services.

[1:03:46] >> That'll be our engineering firm, that'll

[1:03:49] be our attorneys, that'll be our garbage

[1:03:51] services, and our auditing services. Did

[1:03:54] I miss any there?

[1:03:57] >> Those are those are accounts that are

[1:03:59] expiring.

[1:04:00] >> Uh those are accounts that we have not

[1:04:02] sent to RFP

[1:04:04] um as recently as we should.

[1:04:07] >> Okay.

[1:04:08] >> So, get them into that

[1:04:11] garbage

[1:04:13] to garbage needs to go as well. But it's

[1:04:16] only been a couple years.

[1:04:18] >> I think we're at four years.

[1:04:21] >> So, is that

[1:04:22] >> because it was when I first got to the

[1:04:24] council.

[1:04:25] >> So, is that a recommendation or is it a

[1:04:28] requirement? The RF

[1:04:29] >> uh it's a little of both.

[1:04:32] >> Okay.

[1:04:33] >> Um the requirement angle, I think some

[1:04:37] of them are coming up on that

[1:04:39] requirement. um like uh you know our

[1:04:42] engineers are coming up on that um our

[1:04:45] attorneys due to the fact that we have

[1:04:47] been legally engaged for such a long

[1:04:50] time we have not sent it to RFP though

[1:04:53] we should and so we're still going to do

[1:04:56] that.

[1:04:58] I mean, just just to clarify for the

[1:05:00] record, we we did all have that

[1:05:02] conversation individually with you and

[1:05:06] my my position on it is that yeah, with

[1:05:08] the change of our director of finance,

[1:05:12] shaking up to a new auditing firm would

[1:05:14] be a mistake for the city. So, keeping

[1:05:16] that consistency in place seems like the

[1:05:19] right idea.

[1:05:20] >> Yeah. Well, thank you.

[1:05:22] >> Okay. Anything else there you guys?

[1:05:26] Okay, then we'll move to number five.

[1:05:27] So, the review of the sponsorship

[1:05:28] agreement between Woodland Hills and

[1:05:30] Utah County for the America 250 funds.

[1:05:34] Um, so you guys have received that

[1:05:36] contract. Uh, it's in your packet. Um, I

[1:05:40] just need your guys's approval to sign

[1:05:42] it. Um, I have all of the receipts

[1:05:45] tabulated here. Um, they came in at

[1:05:48] around 1748.7.

[1:05:51] Um, so this agreement is for $1,500.

[1:05:56] Um, and so what that basically is

[1:05:58] covering, um, is for the the flags that

[1:06:02] we have purchased, for the lighting of

[1:06:05] the flags, um, for the banner, for the

[1:06:08] advertising of the America 250 potlucks,

[1:06:11] >> I think really helped get people there

[1:06:13] >> 100%.

[1:06:15] We have two receipts from Costco for the

[1:06:19] hot dogs, buns, condiments, things of

[1:06:22] that nature, and then also for the root

[1:06:24] beer that was served. Um, and so it does

[1:06:28] exceed a little bit, which we knew it

[1:06:31] would. Um, I'm actually looking to

[1:06:33] potentially add into our next budget, so

[1:06:36] 2028 budget. um

[1:06:40] we add to our stockpile of flags because

[1:06:44] I'd love to continue to do that as a

[1:06:46] ongoing tradition having them running up

[1:06:49] Wen Hills Drive and Summit Creek Drive

[1:06:52] um to continue to increase those

[1:06:54] numbers.

[1:06:54] >> I would have liked to seen those stay up

[1:06:56] all of July.

[1:06:57] >> They will be headed back out.

[1:07:00] >> So that's why the rebar is still there.

[1:07:02] >> You you pulled one on us there. remember

[1:07:04] you and your kids were going to be

[1:07:05] pulling those up every night and then

[1:07:07] you went. So that's where the extra

[1:07:09] money went. So you were being lazy.

[1:07:11] >> It is true.

[1:07:14] >> But then somebody went and stole one of

[1:07:15] our flags. Couple of our flags.

[1:07:17] >> Somebody stole two of the flags which is

[1:07:19] I got so people want to know where Jod

[1:07:22] found those. Everybody loved the lights

[1:07:25] on them. Thought that was

[1:07:27] >> I mean I got I got lots of comments

[1:07:29] about the flags

[1:07:30] >> about them. It was

[1:07:31] >> people told me it gave them chills to

[1:07:33] drive up.

[1:07:33] >> It was people people were they loved it.

[1:07:36] They absolutely loved it. And I think

[1:07:38] the lights were a great idea.

[1:07:40] >> You know, you didn't pass it by us.

[1:07:42] >> I agree. I think Well, unfortunately,

[1:07:45] that was on that was 100% on me, Brian.

[1:07:49] I failed to triangulate and coordinate

[1:07:52] my schedule between when I personally

[1:07:55] was also going to be out of town.

[1:07:58] >> I think it it turned out perfect. I

[1:08:00] think it couldn't have been better.

[1:08:08] » I think we can find a couple.

[1:08:11] >> It is in the budget. Um, but if they

[1:08:14] want to make that donation, we're always

[1:08:16] willing to accept a donation. So, let's

[1:08:18] discuss this tomorrow in the office and

[1:08:22] see we'll see who it is and if they're

[1:08:24] ones that are, you know, chronic uh

[1:08:27] donators, we'll maybe chat about that.

[1:08:30] >> They could donate to get us more. Um,

[1:08:33] I'm in my opinion.

[1:08:37] I think

[1:08:37] >> I would love to see also and maybe

[1:08:40] setting up the opportunity for uh people

[1:08:44] to get their own flags out in front of

[1:08:46] their own house. Um, we'll need to talk

[1:08:49] about that in the future discussing what

[1:08:51] the logistics may look like on that. But

[1:08:55] I'm of the decision and thought that more red, white, and

[1:09:01] blue in our city during July and Flag

[1:09:04] Day and other times is only a good

[1:09:07] thing.

[1:09:08] >> And I know there are it used to be kind

[1:09:11] of a a scouting project that was done

[1:09:13] throughout the city. Um, and it was

[1:09:16] really cool when it was just everywhere

[1:09:19] and then that went away. And so I know

[1:09:22] that there are some some younger people

[1:09:24] who have started businesses doing the

[1:09:27] flags and our people are paying them to

[1:09:29] do it. So it might be another option to

[1:09:32] have um other young people as their

[1:09:36] business that people work with them

[1:09:38] rather than just us.

[1:09:40] >> I would love to

[1:09:41] >> I don't want to comp I don't want to

[1:09:42] compete with our young young

[1:09:44] entrepreneurs. question. It might be

[1:09:46] just non a non non-starter, but would it

[1:09:50] be possible to have a flag kit with a

[1:09:52] light and the po pole and the flag?

[1:09:56] Would it be too much for the office,

[1:09:59] Jody, to to to be able to sell those at the city cost in the office and say,

[1:10:05] "Hey, look, we we we've got these

[1:10:07] available if you want them. We've got

[1:10:09] them at the city office and we buy a

[1:10:11] stock of them and continue to to

[1:10:12] purchase them." Would that be too much

[1:10:14] on the staff

[1:10:16] >> because I think

[1:10:18] >> I don't know that we don't want to make

[1:10:19] money on it. Just just something that we

[1:10:22] can, you know,

[1:10:22] >> I just didn't want to compete with our

[1:10:24] young people who have businesses.

[1:10:25] >> Let them come by.

[1:10:26] >> So that's what I'm thinking is that

[1:10:28] maybe

[1:10:30] >> So I think there's some good

[1:10:31] opportunities. Let's think about these.

[1:10:33] Let's brainstorm this because I'd love

[1:10:35] to increase

[1:10:37] >> the amount of flags in the city um as we

[1:10:39] continue to go on. I would also love to

[1:10:41] see uh this potluck um be an annual

[1:10:46] thing.

[1:10:47] >> Oh,

[1:10:48] >> um now maybe not on Sunday um going

[1:10:52] forward um but

[1:10:54] >> didn't hurt.

[1:10:56] >> I actually think Sunday was a great

[1:10:58] >> It worked out well.

[1:11:00] >> Was fantastic.

[1:11:02] >> It was a fabulous event. Um

[1:11:04] >> good job,

[1:11:05] >> Janet. Dan, you guys did a fabulous job.

[1:11:09] Uh Shannon and Les Gilbert um were

[1:11:13] fabulous chairs on that event. Um the

[1:11:16] people that showed up, we really want to

[1:11:18] thank

[1:11:19] >> also Dennis he did the entertainment and he he

[1:11:23] volunteered. I I brought it up at

[1:11:26] another meeting that I was at with him

[1:11:28] and he just said, "I'll just do that.

[1:11:30] I'll I'll take care of that." I said,

[1:11:32] "Okay." I didn't even have to ask him.

[1:11:34] So

[1:11:35] >> he appreciate that.

[1:11:36] >> He is fabulous. But I've gone off the

[1:11:38] agenda. So Jod's probably about ready to

[1:11:41] start throwing stuff at me. Um, this is

[1:11:44] actually not about all that as much as

[1:11:46] it is about this contract. Um, that does

[1:11:49] put us in an agreement with the county.

[1:11:52] So I will need to submit this packet to

[1:11:54] them to go over all the itemized

[1:11:56] elements of this. Um, we are

[1:12:00] obliged in that contract. So, as you

[1:12:03] share any more pictures from that event,

[1:12:06] if you can just put uh sponsored by Utah

[1:12:09] County,

[1:12:10] >> okay,

[1:12:10] >> on those im those things. Um, but we

[1:12:15] will if you guys do vote for me to sign

[1:12:18] that, I will sign that, get that all

[1:12:20] sent over and we can get that

[1:12:21] reimbursement of the 1500 from the

[1:12:23] county. Um, they were really excited

[1:12:25] about that. I'm glad that they um chose

[1:12:28] to help the cities in that because I

[1:12:30] think that as I saw different people

[1:12:33] posting pictures around um some cities

[1:12:36] did it as a whole city like us, some did

[1:12:38] it as neighborhoods. Um but it was just

[1:12:42] neat to see uh all these different

[1:12:44] people just getting together as as a

[1:12:47] community in whatever size and shape or

[1:12:49] form that they wanted. But the that the

[1:12:51] county acknowledged that that's an

[1:12:54] important thing and um that helped us be

[1:12:57] able to

[1:12:59] know of what what parameters we wanted

[1:13:01] to put on our celebration.

[1:13:04] >> Yeah, it it was so fabulous. Um just for

[1:13:08] an FYI as well, county currently is

[1:13:10] looking to do a joint city and we're

[1:13:14] trying to fill out exactly what that

[1:13:15] looks like. Um fireworks show that will

[1:13:19] be on Utah Lake.

[1:13:21] Um, so it'll be shot out of the center

[1:13:24] of the fourth of July.

[1:13:25] >> For the 24th of July 24th,

[1:13:28] >> for safety reasons.

[1:13:30] >> Yeah.

[1:13:30] >> Uh, I think that helps the decrease. Put

[1:13:33] a barge out there.

[1:13:34] >> Well, so kind of like the mountain where

[1:13:38] I grew up in northern Idaho in Port

[1:13:40] Lane.

[1:13:41] >> Um, that's what that's what we did. We

[1:13:43] do every year. It's a big barge and

[1:13:45] everybody actually goes out in their

[1:13:46] boats and watches as it comes up out of

[1:13:49] the

[1:13:49] >> Fourth of July. We were at Henry's Lake

[1:13:50] and they

[1:13:52] Salem days is coming up. That's what

[1:13:53] they do. They have a barge that goes out

[1:13:55] on Salem Pond.

[1:13:56] >> Yeah,

[1:13:57] >> that's really a lot of them. There's

[1:13:58] some on the on the side and we get to

[1:14:00] shoot water at the barge sometimes.

[1:14:04] >> It's fun.

[1:14:04] >> Cool.

[1:14:05] >> Okay. Uh any other questions about that

[1:14:08] uh contractor agreement?

[1:14:09] >> Nope.

[1:14:10] >> Okay. Um update on the pavement uh

[1:14:14] preservation project and road bond.

[1:14:17] Community Development Director and Fire

[1:14:19] Chief Ted Mickelson.

[1:14:22] >> An allaround good guy,

[1:14:25] >> future helicopter pilot.

[1:14:30] » Your your your biggest uh antagonist is

[1:14:33] now seeming to be your largest

[1:14:36] >> I know we talked about this at staff

[1:14:38] meeting. I think we're getting close.

[1:14:40] He's wearing her down.

[1:14:42] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so we had a

[1:14:47] pre-construction meeting for the

[1:14:49] pavement management project that we'll

[1:14:50] be doing. Um, they got their schedule

[1:14:53] just a couple of days ago and they're

[1:14:56] planning to start some activity next

[1:14:58] week. So, you'll start seeing some

[1:15:00] activity next week on the streets.

[1:15:02] They'll be basically lowering all the

[1:15:04] manholes and valve boxes and stuff like

[1:15:05] that because they got to lower those

[1:15:06] down to grind the pavement. And then

[1:15:09] starting o August 3rd, that week,

[1:15:12] they'll start grinding pavement and um

[1:15:16] grading and then putting down the new

[1:15:18] asphalt the street. So they're going to

[1:15:20] do it in like three segments,

[1:15:24] like kind of like three segments. So

[1:15:25] they'll go through and they'll grind and

[1:15:27] grade and pave one section, then I'll

[1:15:30] start working on another section. It

[1:15:32] takes about a week and a half to two

[1:15:34] weeks per section. So it'll be three of

[1:15:35] them. Take about six weeks. So, you're

[1:15:37] going to do similar to what you did last

[1:15:39] time where there's a

[1:15:42] some sort of a notification that goes

[1:15:44] out to those affected and

[1:15:48] um so that they'll know which roads are

[1:15:50] >> door hangers.

[1:15:51] >> Well, that takes all the fun out of the

[1:15:53] project. We just like guess them. Um

[1:15:56] >> all around good guy, huh?

[1:15:59] >> Take back what I said.

[1:16:02] >> Like to keep it exciting there.

[1:16:05] We'll be using our uh new notification

[1:16:08] software that we have to let residents

[1:16:10] know. I'll probably send one out

[1:16:11] tomorrow just letting them know dates. I

[1:16:13] don't have specific uh I've asked the

[1:16:15] contractor for the specific dates of

[1:16:17] specific streets

[1:16:19] >> and then we can also use our new

[1:16:20] platform to notify those streets and

[1:16:22] then they will also be doing door

[1:16:24] hangers and just like they did before.

[1:16:26] So kind of the same process and there'll

[1:16:28] be traffic control up and stuff like And

[1:16:29] what about you did a map last time too

[1:16:32] that then we were able to put on social

[1:16:34] media just to show all the residents

[1:16:37] this area is right now

[1:16:40] >> you know

[1:16:40] >> right it'll be the same thing we'll have

[1:16:42] the map link to it in our new software

[1:16:44] and all that kind of stuff when we send

[1:16:45] it out.

[1:16:46] >> Um just waiting on the more detailed

[1:16:48] information. I don't have that yet.

[1:16:51] >> On Yahifi you have us included on all

[1:16:55] sendouts even if we're not in an

[1:16:57] affected area. Yes.

[1:16:58] >> So we can So Yahify is like every

[1:17:01] weekend we can most all everything I've

[1:17:02] sent out so far through Yahify is about

[1:17:04] to everybody.

[1:17:05] >> Um but we can map if we want to send out

[1:17:07] certain areas you just go pick on the

[1:17:08] map.

[1:17:09] >> Yeah. So if you do that like we we did

[1:17:11] that with we changed Everbridge to where

[1:17:13] all of us were getting it because we'll

[1:17:15] get calls from people and we're not in

[1:17:17] the area never get the message. So you

[1:17:19] could add all of us on the Opify.

[1:17:22] >> You can't each one of those. You have to

[1:17:24] pick the map area and then then you have

[1:17:26] to individually select the editor you

[1:17:27] want to add.

[1:17:28] >> Okay. Yeah. If you can make sure that we

[1:17:29] get added to those and probably Lori and

[1:17:32] Jody is and as well and Wayne

[1:17:36] >> as best as I remember I'll I'll try to

[1:17:38] do that.

[1:17:40] I'm climbing up in here. So

[1:17:43] um

[1:17:46] so so this will take till somewhere

[1:17:48] around the first week of September. So,

[1:17:50] I mean, it's going to impact the

[1:17:51] community. We're g have to, you know,

[1:17:53] some diver of defers and stuff like

[1:17:55] that. But, uh, I think the end result

[1:17:57] will be great to have some these roads

[1:17:58] redone.

[1:18:00] >> Our roads to worry about and then the

[1:18:02] county roads and then Salem roads. So,

[1:18:04] we're still going to be able to get out,

[1:18:06] right?

[1:18:07] >> Between the three projects

[1:18:09] >> somehow, worst case scenario, knows.

[1:18:12] >> We're going to be able.

[1:18:15] >> So, this going to be giving people

[1:18:18] rides.

[1:18:21] Um, so this project does include

[1:18:24] Woodland Hills Drive, the segments that

[1:18:26] weren't completed with the last

[1:18:27] projects. Beyond that, most of the works

[1:18:30] can be done at the top of the city. So,

[1:18:31] Eagle Nest, Loafer,

[1:18:34] um, Autumnly Circle, Deep Forest. So, a

[1:18:37] few of those. So, other than Woodland

[1:18:38] Hills Drive, most of it will be up on

[1:18:41] the top of the city. So, so generally

[1:18:43] most of the community won't be impacted

[1:18:45] plus Shadow Ridge.

[1:18:46] >> Yeah. Uh so we'll have a lot of the

[1:18:47] community that won't be impacted very

[1:18:49] heavily or the main travel routes other

[1:18:50] than once we get one minute drive done

[1:18:52] but uh there's a little piece on Lil

[1:18:54] Reed too. So but Sonic drives all done

[1:18:57] and most of uh Willer

[1:19:01] is done. Just a little piece there. So

[1:19:04] nice

[1:19:04] >> chain breaker.

[1:19:05] >> Yeah.

[1:19:06] >> What's that?

[1:19:07] >> The chain breaker for the plows right

[1:19:08] there at the end of Willow Reed. That's

[1:19:10] a bugger when you're on a plow on that

[1:19:12] one.

[1:19:14] >> Yeah. So, I think it'll be great to have

[1:19:16] it done. So, that's the schedule on the

[1:19:18] payment management plan. Um, as far as

[1:19:20] the bond for it goes, um, we went out to

[1:19:24] RFP for a

[1:19:27] essentially a bank to bond for the, uh,

[1:19:30] project, the 1.4 million. Got three

[1:19:34] back. uh our council felt like the

[1:19:38] interest rates on those were just a

[1:19:39] little higher than he was liking and he

[1:19:41] thought there may be some better options

[1:19:43] to get a little bit lower interest. In

[1:19:45] doing some research he found uh a

[1:19:49] loan bank basically for lack of a better

[1:19:52] term through UD do. It's called the

[1:19:54] state infrastructure bank and they will

[1:19:56] loan out money through the state

[1:19:57] infrastructure bank and it's a little

[1:19:59] lower interest rates than you'll get in

[1:20:00] the market. um could be a half a point

[1:20:02] to a point lower uh which saves us, you

[1:20:05] know, some good money over 10 years. So,

[1:20:08] um he recommended that. So, I reached

[1:20:11] out to them. Uh filled out the

[1:20:13] application this week. Um we'll be

[1:20:15] working on some more paperwork. We'll

[1:20:17] find out in August.

[1:20:19] Um they have a board meeting in August

[1:20:21] that we'll be going to. We'll find out

[1:20:22] if they'll fund the project. If they

[1:20:24] fund it, uh it takes, I think you said,

[1:20:26] 10 days to close on it. So we we'll have

[1:20:28] the money in place before our first

[1:20:30] pay request is due to the contractor. If

[1:20:34] it doesn't get funded through the state

[1:20:35] infrastructure bank, then we can go back

[1:20:37] to the lowest of the three that

[1:20:39] submitted and just and go with them.

[1:20:41] >> And we've still got some funds that we

[1:20:44] that a lot in our that we already have.

[1:20:46] So we can make a payment if we if we

[1:20:48] needed to. So,

[1:20:50] >> so we're working with uh the U do

[1:20:53] contact right now to get all that

[1:20:54] information filled out and then we'll go

[1:20:55] to port.

[1:20:59] » So, we just have the options and we'll

[1:21:02] see. We'll take the best rate. We will

[1:21:04] get it funded. It's just a matter of

[1:21:07] which selection we make.

[1:21:10] >> Okay. Uh any questions for Ted on that?

[1:21:13] So, got a question that's not really on

[1:21:16] here, but is is in relation. July 1st

[1:21:20] has come and gone. How is our is water

[1:21:23] funding looking? Have we been able to

[1:21:26] put in an application for

[1:21:32] No, we didn't get an application into

[1:21:33] the state for um

[1:21:37] SRF funds for the state yet. Um,

[1:21:42] >> are you waiting for Burgess? Is that I

[1:21:43] mean, is that what you're waiting on to

[1:21:45] find out?

[1:21:45] >> Yeah, because we don't know how much

[1:21:46] they're going to uh when we submitted

[1:21:49] for the grant with Burgess's office, the

[1:21:52] request was for originally 2.9 million.

[1:21:55] Um, they asked us to give them phases at

[1:21:59] which we would be comfortable funding.

[1:22:01] So, the short of it is it ranges

[1:22:03] anywhere between a billion 2.9 million.

[1:22:04] We don't know how much of that we get,

[1:22:06] if any. We are number four out of 20 on

[1:22:09] the list on his list. So, it's a good

[1:22:11] chance.

[1:22:11] >> It's a good chance we're going to get

[1:22:12] something. We don't know how much yet.

[1:22:15] And I wanted to wait to find out how

[1:22:16] much we're getting from him and then

[1:22:18] supplement that with state. Because if

[1:22:20] you take funding that you have already

[1:22:22] acquired to the state,

[1:22:25] you have the chance of getting better

[1:22:27] funding with the state because you're

[1:22:28] leveraging it with the funding you have.

[1:22:30] Now, the other caveat to that is you

[1:22:32] can't use federal money to leverage

[1:22:34] federal money. So, then I have to work

[1:22:36] state to get it out of their state

[1:22:37] money. If that makes sense.

[1:22:38] >> Yes. Um, there's no jeopardy in there's

[1:22:41] no chance of us losing the opportunity

[1:22:44] if I mean it's

[1:22:45] >> they're not going to cut off

[1:22:47] applications because they've had enough

[1:22:49] of them and

[1:22:51] >> um No, I mean the way the state works

[1:22:55] it's a revolving fund.

[1:22:56] >> Yeah, but they they cut off applications

[1:22:58] for over six months. So

[1:23:00] >> that wasn't because of

[1:23:02] >> Yeah,

[1:23:02] >> that wasn't because of funding issues.

[1:23:04] That was because and I actually was

[1:23:06] sitting in the board meeting and and

[1:23:08] supported and voted that uh to put the

[1:23:11] mortorium on. The problem was is during

[1:23:13] >> it's all your fault.

[1:23:14] >> Problem is during the uh ARPA era, yes,

[1:23:18] >> they had so many applications and so

[1:23:20] much funding that went out that they

[1:23:22] just kind of lost track, for lack of

[1:23:24] better term, of what was going on. And

[1:23:25] they have so few staff to manage all

[1:23:27] this. So, what they wanted to do is take

[1:23:29] a six-month breather and catch up on all

[1:23:31] of this to figure out exactly what they

[1:23:33] had out, what they had coming in before

[1:23:35] they kind of re-engaged.

[1:23:37] >> Okay. I just don't want to get caught in

[1:23:38] that again because everybody's been

[1:23:39] waiting for six months and they're going

[1:23:40] to get inundated and then I don't want

[1:23:42] to get

[1:23:44] be so because we didn't do anything.

[1:23:48] >> Makes sense. I trust I trust your your

[1:23:50] judgment on it.

[1:23:51] >> Yeah. I think if we can find out what um

[1:23:53] and I've tried to reach out to Burg's

[1:23:56] office and haven't been successful

[1:23:57] getting

[1:23:57] >> Oh, he was he was with the president

[1:23:59] earlier so we busy.

[1:24:01] >> Well, I work with their one of their

[1:24:02] staff guys who I work with and and I I

[1:24:04] haven't been successful getting follow

[1:24:06] in. I'd follow up. I was talking to him.

[1:24:09] >> Do you have any contacts? I'm just

[1:24:10] trying to keep reaching out to him to

[1:24:11] find out. I I just mean the timing of

[1:24:13] it. I don't know where the timing is.

[1:24:15] >> I know. And and and we're all anxious

[1:24:18] for that.

[1:24:20] >> Yeah. Oh yeah, tell me about it. I don't

[1:24:22] like these.

[1:24:24] >> Wait for the next Saturday night. One of

[1:24:25] the morning water breaks.

[1:24:29] » Thank you for

[1:24:31] Don't you worry.

[1:24:33] >> Anything else on water or on the

[1:24:36] pavement management plan

[1:24:38] talking other grants too or just the

[1:24:40] >> we we're headed right into the other

[1:24:42] grants. So

[1:24:44] >> Ted, update on our other grants.

[1:24:48] Um so the other one we we've been

[1:24:51] awarded is the football court grant and

[1:24:53] we have engaged with our engineering

[1:24:54] company and have a contract in place.

[1:24:56] They have actually surveyed the property

[1:24:58] been up there survey department ready.

[1:25:00] So now they're what they call the base

[1:25:01] map. Now they're putting the all the

[1:25:04] nuts and bolts into the plan and then

[1:25:06] they'll start the design. So that one's

[1:25:08] moving along. I asked if they can push

[1:25:11] this one and maybe start something this

[1:25:13] fall on the project. So,

[1:25:17] hopefully I I I don't know uh how it

[1:25:20] depends on the season whether we'll be

[1:25:21] able to start something this year or

[1:25:22] not, but we're going to try.

[1:25:25] >> Um details on that. Um can we see plans

[1:25:29] on that?

[1:25:30] >> You don't have them yet?

[1:25:31] >> I don't have them when we have them.

[1:25:33] >> Okay. No yet or anything? Okay. Okay. Um

[1:25:36] the reason why is I have been doing

[1:25:38] quite a bit of research on if we are

[1:25:41] wanting to do a fundraiser for some of

[1:25:43] that. Um, I found some brick options.

[1:25:47] There's there's quite a few out there.

[1:25:49] >> Yeah. So,

[1:25:50] >> the papers or whatever

[1:25:51] >> papers or whatever we want to do. We

[1:25:53] could even do benches, plaques. We can

[1:25:55] do all kinds of things. So,

[1:25:57] >> can sell paddles that say Wooden Hills

[1:25:59] on them

[1:26:00] >> literally. Yeah. I mean, we we can kind

[1:26:02] of make this a cool thing and and get

[1:26:03] some community involvement. But

[1:26:05] somewhere along the way, we should

[1:26:07] probably all sit down and just discuss

[1:26:10] if there's a good strategy around that.

[1:26:12] Why don't you uh get with mayor and Jod

[1:26:16] and put put some stuff together and just

[1:26:18] get it on the

[1:26:19] >> and I can show you when we submit the

[1:26:21] application we kind of came up with

[1:26:22] here's where we caught a walk to go

[1:26:25] >> and we had some ideas and it the

[1:26:28] engineers um so that trail um from where

[1:26:33] the flag pole is

[1:26:35] >> there's a trail that kind of goes

[1:26:39] >> south

[1:26:40] >> along and then drops the hill. That

[1:26:43] trail is going to come out because

[1:26:45] that's where the pickle ball court's

[1:26:46] going to go and we'll have to move it

[1:26:47] around. We'll still connect those two

[1:26:49] pieces. Um, but we'll move it towards

[1:26:51] the pavilion, the trail. But we thought

[1:26:53] that might be a nice spot to have a

[1:26:55] paper area right through there on the

[1:26:57] pickle ball court. Maybe put a couple

[1:26:59] benches and those could be donated items

[1:27:00] that would connect. We're going to build

[1:27:02] a trail, an ADA trail from the parking

[1:27:04] lot over to the pickle ball court. So,

[1:27:09] we connect that trail to the other by

[1:27:11] the flags, but and that would be a nice

[1:27:14] spot.

[1:27:15] >> So, um I think something like that would

[1:27:17] be great.

[1:27:17] >> Okay, cool. Um yeah, so it would just be

[1:27:21] like discussing scopes and

[1:27:25] strategy around it, costs, all that

[1:27:27] stuff.

[1:27:27] >> Once we get kind of a preliminary plan

[1:27:30] from them, a preliminary layout plan, we

[1:27:32] could probably start coming up with some

[1:27:33] of these square footage areas and stuff

[1:27:34] like that.

[1:27:36] It could be a good

[1:27:39] then we have some good information to go

[1:27:40] out. Yeah. And I need the square footage

[1:27:42] for if I can get the the coatings

[1:27:46] donated or at least at better good

[1:27:48] pricing. So, I need that once I get that

[1:27:51] put together.

[1:27:54] >> During our kickoff with the uh paving

[1:27:56] contractor, we also talked to them about

[1:27:59] paving the parking lot.

[1:28:01] >> Parking lot. And if we if we Mike could

[1:28:04] get th this kind of information um and

[1:28:07] decide on it prior to Woodland Hills

[1:28:09] Day, we could sell the pavers at

[1:28:11] Woodland Hills Day even though they

[1:28:13] won't be put in till next year, next

[1:28:16] summer, fall or spring.

[1:28:17] >> Have signups,

[1:28:18] >> but we could have signups for those who

[1:28:20] are wanting to do something.

[1:28:21] >> Probably want some pictures or posters

[1:28:23] like conceptual of what it you know what

[1:28:25] I mean? If you had all of that and

[1:28:27] >> Yeah.

[1:28:27] >> and show them what a paper will look

[1:28:29] like, you know, with the name in it. I

[1:28:31] think that would be

[1:28:32] >> that would I think people would be real

[1:28:34] that would get them all excited and and

[1:28:36] again if we want to do the paddles or

[1:28:38] whatever we want to do if we had a

[1:28:40] little booth at Woodland Hills day just

[1:28:42] to talk about it and showcase where it's

[1:28:44] going to be there and

[1:28:46] >> that kind of thing

[1:28:47] >> we have we have a well the paddles are

[1:28:49] fun

[1:28:51] something it's kind of fun we whenever

[1:28:54] we pull it out we're like oh it's a

[1:28:56] pickle ball it's no it's a what's the

[1:28:58] other one ping pong but it's just fun

[1:28:59] because it's

[1:29:00] kind of a memory thing.

[1:29:03] >> Yeah. Okay. Well, I've got a lot of

[1:29:05] information. So, whenever we want to

[1:29:07] connect and just kind of come up with a

[1:29:10] strategy, however we do that, I don't

[1:29:12] know if we put a task force together or

[1:29:13] what. I mean, I hate to

[1:29:16] >> design.

[1:29:24] What size of donations are you looking

[1:29:27] at?

[1:29:31] » You might have a gold level, you might

[1:29:36] » I just don't want to be

[1:29:39] >> sure. Sorry. I would say by the next

[1:29:41] council meeting, we'll probably be

[1:29:43] pretty close to having

[1:29:45] >> to plan far enough along start pulling

[1:29:47] off some quantities some areas and stuff

[1:29:49] like that.

[1:29:50] >> Yeah. Yeah. It just be nice to to know

[1:29:52] the whole scope because be beyond that,

[1:29:55] I also feel like beyond a monetary

[1:29:57] donation for people that might be a

[1:29:59] little more strapped that may want to

[1:30:01] donate some time to some benefit to the

[1:30:03] city or the project, maybe that's an

[1:30:06] option. So different a little bit later

[1:30:09] when probably a little farther along in

[1:30:10] the plans we have kind of a rest of the

[1:30:13] school

[1:30:13] >> but still capture them.

[1:30:15] >> Yeah, just that's the point.

[1:30:17] >> There are some ideas we've had is we got

[1:30:19] to relocate that's on us. So we got a

[1:30:21] bunch of screens we got to relocate so

[1:30:23] those that have that capability can help

[1:30:24] us out there.

[1:30:26] >> Um some things like that. We're going to

[1:30:27] have to replant some grass probably once

[1:30:29] we once we dig this up and things like

[1:30:31] >> to somebody that can do all of those

[1:30:33] things.

[1:30:35] I'm really good at volunteering him.

[1:30:38] >> So, I think we'll have some good ideas,

[1:30:40] some things they can do.

[1:30:43] >> Yeah. So, anyways, I there there's quite

[1:30:44] a bit of opportunity here and a pretty

[1:30:47] streamlined process with the company I

[1:30:50] contacted.

[1:30:55] » Great. Thanks.

[1:30:57] >> Great. Okay.

[1:30:59] >> Wonderful. Um

[1:31:04] » discussion of uh you you you you might

[1:31:06] as well just stay there for a second but

[1:31:08] we have a discussion on large purchases.

[1:31:11] Um so in the budget we have allocated um

[1:31:15] repairing the city center. Um so that is

[1:31:18] this whole wall needs to be ripped off

[1:31:20] and redone because it is leaking

[1:31:22] currently into the building and I hear

[1:31:24] leaking into building is bad. Um and

[1:31:27] then there's a number of spots all the

[1:31:29] way around the building. Um we are are

[1:31:33] budgeted for this in the budget. Um the

[1:31:36] bid that came back is what is in the

[1:31:38] budget and that is $32,47.38

[1:31:43] um which is there's an extensive amount

[1:31:45] of work that needs to be done. Um and so

[1:31:48] that is what this large purchase request

[1:31:50] is.

[1:31:51] >> Did it go out to multiple bids or just

[1:31:54] did you just get a single? I just got

[1:31:56] the single one. Um though we could

[1:31:59] >> I don't know. I think we're required at

[1:32:01] 40, right?

[1:32:02] >> It is. Yes.

[1:32:03] >> So we're okay being under 40 but just

[1:32:05] going single source.

[1:32:07] >> What was the amount again? Sorry, Ben.

[1:32:09] >> 32,47.38.

[1:32:14] » And it's all exterior work or does that

[1:32:16] include interior work?

[1:32:17] >> That's all exterior work. So that

[1:32:20] includes

[1:32:22] removal, demolition, garbage, uh install

[1:32:25] or new OSB where needed. Um that

[1:32:30] includes all of the waterproofing,

[1:32:32] flashing, uh sighting installed and culd

[1:32:36] and then painted.

[1:32:38] >> And what's the timeline for this? Are we

[1:32:40] thinking?

[1:32:41] >> Um that would start, if approved

[1:32:43] tonight, that would start quite soon.

[1:32:46] Next couple weeks. We definitely want

[1:32:48] that done before.

[1:32:52] » So,

[1:32:55] >> yes. Is there a guarantee is yours

[1:32:57] guarantee that goes with that work?

[1:33:00] >> Yes.

[1:33:01] >> Yep.

[1:33:03] >> Um, so that's my world is contracting

[1:33:08] and

[1:33:09] >> I don't know the magnitude, the scope or

[1:33:11] whatever, but it feels high.

[1:33:16] I'm more than open to other options

[1:33:20] >> because if we can get it at a better

[1:33:21] rate with some competent construct some

[1:33:26] >> competent contractors if I could speak

[1:33:28] that would be helpful competent

[1:33:30] contractors

[1:33:32] >> um I'd love to to head down this

[1:33:34] >> I think one of the problems we've had in

[1:33:36] the past is because our jobs are so

[1:33:38] small that most contractors have other

[1:33:41] big projects somewhere else and we're

[1:33:43] just happy when we can find somebody

[1:33:44] that will come here. But if you know

[1:33:46] other people that might be

[1:33:48] >> great.

[1:33:48] >> Do we have enough information to put a a

[1:33:50] scope of work, a sale together? It

[1:33:52] sounds difficult.

[1:33:55] >> It is the the other issue, and I'd love

[1:33:59] to talk with you, Steve, on this. Um

[1:34:04] because of the way this building's

[1:34:06] built, the primary reason we have the

[1:34:08] leaking on this is this wall right here

[1:34:12] is foundation. So this is concrete right

[1:34:15] here. It's the same stuff Steve used to

[1:34:18] build his home. This wall is not. And so

[1:34:22] what's happened is this wall where it

[1:34:24] stops right there cuz these trusses sit

[1:34:28] on the foundation wall. There is a ledge

[1:34:31] that was created and they need to build

[1:34:34] the it needs to be flat on the exterior

[1:34:36] and it was not done. And so it created a

[1:34:38] ledge by which snow, rain, water sits

[1:34:42] and it has then wicked up. It has

[1:34:44] corroded the Hardy. And so this whole

[1:34:48] section needs to be built out and then

[1:34:50] resurfaced.

[1:34:52] >> But it's just to to go out for multiple

[1:34:54] bid, you've got to have a a good scope.

[1:34:57] >> Absolutely

[1:34:58] >> correct.

[1:34:58] >> I would just suggest have people look at

[1:35:00] it.

[1:35:00] >> You want to just do that.

[1:35:01] >> That's the only way this

[1:35:04] >> is it's a fairly

[1:35:06] in and and scope is really a really

[1:35:10] small job. It's it's you know

[1:35:14] >> I think the ch yeah it's a pretty small

[1:35:16] job and I think the challenge with the

[1:35:17] scope of work is then you're dictating

[1:35:18] what you want done.

[1:35:21] Yeah. I think if you have someone kind

[1:35:22] of look at it and give their, you know,

[1:35:24] give their um estimates based on what

[1:35:27] they recommend and then take then what

[1:35:29] you do is you take at least in in

[1:35:31] because I worked a lot in Steve's world

[1:35:34] only the heavy civil side and you know a

[1:35:36] lot of what we would do is we do what we

[1:35:37] call the best value say who's giving us

[1:35:39] the best product for the best price and

[1:35:41] necessarily the cheapest not the most

[1:35:44] expensive but what are we getting a good

[1:35:45] product for you know the right price. So

[1:35:47] >> and and let's get some people to to look

[1:35:50] at it. looking at this be the best

[1:35:52] option

[1:35:53] >> maybe um

[1:35:57] does our inspections um

[1:35:59] >> no not the engineer um what's his name

[1:36:04] >> who does what

[1:36:05] >> what's over offer

[1:36:06] >> Chris Tambasco

[1:36:07] >> Tenbasco maybe have him just kind of

[1:36:10] look at that help review him maybe he

[1:36:12] would be willing to do that and and you

[1:36:15] Ted you and and Chris and just kind of

[1:36:19] said so you guys can put your brains

[1:36:21] together as as experts in in this field

[1:36:23] and say, "Yeah, this is this is the

[1:36:25] where the direction we want to go."

[1:36:27] >> Yeah. And I think even if you have

[1:36:28] contractors, I mean, it's pretty for the

[1:36:30] most part straightforward. Um it's just

[1:36:32] a matter of how much you want.

[1:36:34] >> Yeah.

[1:36:36] >> Kind of like when we did our wall out

[1:36:37] here, you know, I did I called out two

[1:36:39] or three companies, Geotech, and had

[1:36:41] them come and look at it and say, "Give

[1:36:42] me your thoughts on what needs to be

[1:36:43] done."

[1:36:44] and and for the most part they both came

[1:36:47] to the same kind of conclusions and

[1:36:50] general cost but um at least that way

[1:36:53] you've kind of validated

[1:36:55] that kind of stuff. So I think you got a

[1:36:57] couple three guys that do that type of

[1:36:58] work look at it and say what what you

[1:37:00] recommended what your cost then you just

[1:37:02] evaluate what they've done and what what

[1:37:04] their recommend cost is.

[1:37:06] >> So I emailed each of you that that bid

[1:37:10] so you can go through and see kind of

[1:37:12] what they articulated. They came out um

[1:37:15] two or three times to make sure to get

[1:37:18] that scope. Um

[1:37:21] so yeah, I'm more than happy. If we can

[1:37:23] find a a cheaper and also reliable

[1:37:26] company, I'm I'm game for that. This is

[1:37:28] a company I personally have used a lot.

[1:37:31] Um so I know their their quality and the type of attention that they will

[1:37:37] give us, but that'd be great.

[1:37:43] Wonderful. Okay. Departmental updates.

[1:37:45] Uh Ted, Community Development, Public

[1:37:48] Works, Fire Department.

[1:37:49] >> Um so just a quick update on the

[1:37:51] roundabout project. Uh spoke with the

[1:37:53] county today and um the design for the

[1:37:58] roundabouts completed. The property

[1:38:02] acquisition exhibits are all prepared.

[1:38:05] They had to make an change on it based

[1:38:07] on some conversations they had with

[1:38:09] three bridges. So those changes have now

[1:38:11] been made,

[1:38:13] delayed the project a bit. So they're

[1:38:17] going to start working on property

[1:38:18] acquisition, but the project probably

[1:38:20] won't go to bid until this fall.

[1:38:23] >> So they'll start construction in the

[1:38:24] spring.

[1:38:27] So that's kind of their schedule. But

[1:38:29] how the timing of that also is uh works

[1:38:32] a little bit better with that sewer

[1:38:33] project. They were a little nervous

[1:38:35] because they're bringing that sewer

[1:38:36] right now up drive. That's the work of

[1:38:39] this drive. bring the sew work for three

[1:38:40] bridges. Um, and their fear was because

[1:38:43] their project for the county actually

[1:38:45] extends down within those driveways and

[1:38:48] they didn't want to get the work

[1:38:49] complete and then have the contractor

[1:38:50] doing the utilities tear off

[1:38:52] >> tear it up patch job. Yeah.

[1:38:53] >> Yeah. So, they wanted to wait till all

[1:38:55] that was complete and as well. So,

[1:38:58] >> uh, so probably be bid out this fall and

[1:39:00] then start working the spring.

[1:39:01] >> So, if they're not going to start

[1:39:02] construction till spring, will we be

[1:39:04] able to use the mailboxes mailboxes

[1:39:06] until then? We won't need our

[1:39:08] temporaries this year, but we'll

[1:39:10] probably next spring.

[1:39:11] >> Yeah, he recommended having them

[1:39:13] probably in place and ready by sometime

[1:39:14] around the first of the year and then

[1:39:16] that way they're ready to go when

[1:39:19] they're ready to start.

[1:39:20] >> Okay.

[1:39:24] » Um I've already updated you on the

[1:39:27] project. I think that's the biggest

[1:39:28] things we have in public works right

[1:39:29] now. Um water fountain park works.

[1:39:32] >> Woohoo.

[1:39:33] >> So

[1:39:35] that's news. Did we just have a valve?

[1:39:38] >> Uh the phone a friend worked. No, it's

[1:39:40] not a valve. It is a process that I

[1:39:42] don't know that I could describe to you

[1:39:44] of how this got how this thing works.

[1:39:46] But uh but we got we got shown how it

[1:39:48] works. And uh it's it's kind of it's

[1:39:52] >> tube is plugged in one place. You got to

[1:39:53] plug it into another place and it's

[1:39:55] anyway

[1:39:57] >> drafting

[1:39:58] sort of. Yeah, it's lifting.

[1:40:01] >> Exactly.

[1:40:02] >> So anyway, we got it figured out. So

[1:40:04] it's working. Um, our wildland fire crew

[1:40:08] right now is on the uh

[1:40:12] Stuki Stookie fire.

[1:40:15] So, um, they've been out there for about

[1:40:18] not a week now.

[1:40:20] So, we're excited to see them paying

[1:40:22] their way this year. So, they got some

[1:40:24] good buyers.

[1:40:27] Get some good stuff.

[1:40:28] >> Unfortunately, they're local. They're

[1:40:30] all in Utah.

[1:40:31] >> Yes.

[1:40:32] >> I mean, a lot of them

[1:40:33] >> they have not left Utah this year. Well,

[1:40:35] Take it back in the spring.

[1:40:40] » They've stayed in state.

[1:40:41] >> That's what I was thinking. I was

[1:40:42] thinking most of them

[1:40:43] >> coming out to the Stuki fire last week

[1:40:46] few days ago.

[1:40:52] » That's all I have.

[1:40:54] >> Perfect. Okay. Thank you, Dad. You're free to back to the back. Uh

[1:41:01] Wayne, planning commission and code

[1:41:03] enforcement. Do you have anything?

[1:41:05] >> Yeah. Let me

[1:41:09] share a thought with y'all. In June's

[1:41:13] Wayne's World, I put out an open

[1:41:16] invitation to the city if anybody had

[1:41:19] any thoughts or ideas about changing our

[1:41:21] ordinances, any of them in in any way,

[1:41:25] shape, or form. Um, I got one response.

[1:41:30] So to me it says that everybody's

[1:41:32] generally happy with with ordinances as they are.

[1:41:37] >> You can read in

[1:41:37] >> you know you said that on record.

[1:41:40] >> Let's let it slide. Carry on. This is

[1:41:42] Wayne's time everybody.

[1:41:44] >> And the uh the recommendations had to do

[1:41:47] with our uh fencing ordinance

[1:41:50] interestingly enough and some of the

[1:41:53] recommendations

[1:41:55] are already in our existing fencing

[1:41:57] ordinance. This person didn't realize

[1:42:00] that a number of years ago they were

[1:42:02] updated some and so our recommend the

[1:42:05] recommendations are already in place in

[1:42:08] some respects. So anyway, I just want to

[1:42:11] close the circle for the council to know that and that of course we're open anytime somebody wants to

[1:42:19] make a a recommendation. But um anyway,

[1:42:23] that's that's what that's what we got in

[1:42:26] June.

[1:42:27] >> Anyway, somebody reached out.

[1:42:30] >> Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to see

[1:42:33] >> that shows too that um sometimes

[1:42:35] residents don't know what what's there

[1:42:38] already. And I think that's a good a

[1:42:41] good thing too to be able to say, "Oh,

[1:42:43] that's here, but your other part, let's consider that."

[1:42:46] >> Yeah.

[1:42:47] >> Very good.

[1:42:48] >> That's all.

[1:42:49] >> Thank you.

[1:42:49] Wayne. Uh nothing for

[1:42:51] emergency management today. Um but we do

[1:42:55] have our 911 dispatch. So, former fire

[1:42:59] chief, former assistant fire chief,

[1:43:01] former council member and current 911

[1:43:04] dispatch liaison

[1:43:06] >> extraordinire and the only thing I know

[1:43:10] is July 4th next year is on a Sunday.

[1:43:13] So, it kind of breaks our pattern.

[1:43:17] >> But anyway, I wanted to say that city

[1:43:20] get together was one of the biggest that

[1:43:23] I've ever been to. It was quite

[1:43:25] remarkable. So well done

[1:43:29] you who did it.

[1:43:31] Um

[1:43:33] so our uh central Utah 911

[1:43:38] dispatch meeting was cancelled

[1:43:40] and uh about two days later they texted

[1:43:44] everybody and they said, "Hey, we got to

[1:43:46] get together. We got to get together as

[1:43:47] quick as we can." And so a whole bunch

[1:43:50] of us went down there and we met because

[1:43:54] Orum and Lyndon brought a big crew in to

[1:43:59] talk to us about joining our dispatch.

[1:44:01] >> Oh.

[1:44:01] >> And that's when we know it's serious,

[1:44:03] you know.

[1:44:04] >> Yeah.

[1:44:04] >> So there were seven of them that came

[1:44:06] and uh it was one of the most

[1:44:10] interesting meetings I've ever attended.

[1:44:12] It was three and a half hours long and

[1:44:15] uh it was not boring. Um we had Lyndon fire

[1:44:23] and police. We had or fire chief and

[1:44:26] police and I knew that or chief. So it

[1:44:29] was good to go to some of those meetings

[1:44:31] with Ted and know him. So, they were

[1:44:34] there, city managers, um, and, uh,

[1:44:39] they they were very open and upfront

[1:44:43] with us. Uh, their prices were really

[1:44:46] going up this year from Metro. They're

[1:44:48] on a system with Provo, and Provo runs

[1:44:51] the system and bills them, and so they

[1:44:54] decided to raise their rates. Anyway, it

[1:44:57] got where it was necessary for them

[1:45:01] to to come to us and talk to us. Now,

[1:45:03] the state wants this to happen anyway,

[1:45:05] you know, and the feds are pushing for

[1:45:07] this,

[1:45:07] >> get these dispatch centers consolidated.

[1:45:10] >> So, so we went on talked about a lot of

[1:45:14] stuff. There'd be a million-doll buy in

[1:45:16] for them to come to our dispatch, but

[1:45:19] they would bring with them some credits

[1:45:21] if they brought hardware and so on that

[1:45:23] the dispatch could use. Of course, that

[1:45:25] would

[1:45:25] >> What about dispatchers?

[1:45:28] >> What's that?

[1:45:29] >> You know, what what about um employees?

[1:45:31] That would be that would bring in those

[1:45:33] too because we are always looking for

[1:45:34] new dispatchers.

[1:45:35] >> Yeah, they they uh they're they would

[1:45:38] have to gear up. We'd have to gear up.

[1:45:40] Luckily, we would not have to knock out

[1:45:42] a wall and build more building right

[1:45:45] now. We can we could fit the dispatchers

[1:45:47] in there that would handle they'd have

[1:45:49] like six more dispatchers that would

[1:45:51] just kind of be added to the group. um

[1:45:56] the final numbers

[1:46:00] there was a big argument about that and

[1:46:02] I learned a little bit about one of the

[1:46:05] cities in the county whose city

[1:46:07] councelor was there as a representative

[1:46:09] he's a bud

[1:46:12] and I go public saying that I didn't say

[1:46:15] which city it was so but anyway um

[1:46:18] >> he knows who he is

[1:46:19] >> and we got into we got into a real

[1:46:21] heated discussion and frankly I was

[1:46:23] embarrassed about us doing that in front

[1:46:26] of more of Lyndon, you know, potential

[1:46:28] customers, you know. So, so I kind of

[1:46:30] got animated and and and

[1:46:34] uh we we ended up voting and passing on

[1:46:39] the agreement that we that we wanted to

[1:46:41] give ORM and um and basically what it

[1:46:45] means is everybody's costs that are

[1:46:48] already on dispatch would reduce 20%

[1:46:51] every year. So that means to Woodland

[1:46:54] Hills we would pay $4,000 less every

[1:46:56] year and that's not a bad thing, you

[1:46:59] know. So plus I think we'll get better

[1:47:01] service because they'll have better

[1:47:04] equipment and they can beep up and add

[1:47:07] to it.

[1:47:09] >> So it's a done deal.

[1:47:10] >> No. Well, it it could be.

[1:47:14] >> This is kind of

[1:47:15] >> Orum was going to go back and we'll hear

[1:47:17] about it next meeting probably what

[1:47:19] their what their answers are. If they

[1:47:21] say yes, then we start the process and

[1:47:25] it takes a year to get everything worked

[1:47:28] out, training, all the employees hired,

[1:47:32] all that sort of thing. Um,

[1:47:35] then

[1:47:37] yeah, take a good year to get them

[1:47:39] converted to us. Um,

[1:47:43] there's there's hardware stuff involved,

[1:47:45] too. There's there's radios and so on.

[1:47:48] So that's that's the story from that.

[1:47:50] But I'm just uh

[1:47:52] >> you think both of them will want

[1:47:54] >> Yeah, they'll come as a package.

[1:47:56] >> Okay.

[1:47:56] >> Um there was also a representative at

[1:47:58] the meeting from Metro, which is the

[1:48:00] name of the company that runs them

[1:48:03] currently. So they were, you know, years

[1:48:06] to see what we were going to do, too. Um

[1:48:09] so that's the that's the gist of that.

[1:48:12] So I'll keep you updated.

[1:48:14] >> Thank you, Nor. We appreciate you.

[1:48:18] Okay.

[1:48:21] So, mayor, city council reports. Um, if

[1:48:25] we can, council member Hutchkins has

[1:48:27] requested uh to be able to run a

[1:48:29] presentation during his so he may exceed

[1:48:31] the the five minute request um or less.

[1:48:35] >> Ask for a five minute video and that's

[1:48:38] >> that is he he'll be close and then we'll

[1:48:40] discuss probably something about the

[1:48:42] video, but we'll see. Um, I would like

[1:48:45] to start though, there's nothing really

[1:48:47] with Mag and Cog. Um, things have been a

[1:48:49] little light with the summer months. Um,

[1:48:52] SCSD, everything is going well there.

[1:48:55] Yes.

[1:48:55] >> I just heard there's something the

[1:48:57] transfer station

[1:48:59] >> getting there. Yeah.

[1:49:00] >> So, SCSD, um, everything is actually

[1:49:04] looking really good at SCSD. I don't

[1:49:07] know if you guys have heard, Steve

[1:49:08] probably has, um,

[1:49:12] that Rocky Mountain is raising their

[1:49:14] rates quite significantly. Again, we are

[1:49:17] not. Uh, we have no price hike in the

[1:49:20] near future. We're actually looking at

[1:49:23] buying. So, SCSD is a brokerage. We do

[1:49:27] not make any of our own power

[1:49:29] electricity. we just buy it off the

[1:49:31] market and then service um the diff

[1:49:34] different areas within the SASD network.

[1:49:38] It is quite fascinating because we are

[1:49:41] part of a group that currently has kind

[1:49:44] of also now gotten in bed with

[1:49:47] California Power. Um and so we're

[1:49:50] contractually obligated to kind of join

[1:49:53] with those different uh

[1:49:57] court decisions. I'll put it that way.

[1:50:00] Um,

[1:50:01] we are currently potentially going to be

[1:50:03] able to sell those that contract to a

[1:50:07] different city who is in desperate need

[1:50:09] of that electricity. Um, and we are

[1:50:12] going to

[1:50:13] >> part of that.

[1:50:13] >> No.

[1:50:14] >> Okay.

[1:50:14] >> No. Uh, we are potentially going to

[1:50:18] start getting power from a plant out in

[1:50:22] I think out on the west side of Utah.

[1:50:25] Um, and with that we will be able to

[1:50:28] potentially actually push down the

[1:50:30] number of savings to the members of

[1:50:32] SCSD.

[1:50:34] >> Really excited about that possibility.

[1:50:36] Um, we're working on it. It is not a

[1:50:38] done deal by any stretch, but something

[1:50:40] to to think about. Um, now the Dry Creek

[1:50:44] Transfer Station,

[1:50:47] uh, the Dry Creek Transfer Station had a

[1:50:49] really fun weekend. Um, and by fun I

[1:50:53] mean not that fun.

[1:50:56] Um,

[1:50:57] on Saturday,

[1:51:00] uh, just around noon, we had an

[1:51:04] individual, a resident of somewhere, we

[1:51:07] don't know who it is, um, came and

[1:51:10] delivered and dropped off some sort of

[1:51:13] flammable liquid.

[1:51:15] um that flammable liquid from what we

[1:51:17] are seeing in the camera feed as we

[1:51:19] watched uh kind of who was there and

[1:51:22] when it got dropped off something

[1:51:25] sparked it and it the flame rolled

[1:51:28] across the pile. That's why we're not

[1:51:30] thinking it was a battery. Um and we why

[1:51:32] we're thinking it was a a liquid of some

[1:51:35] sort. um due to one critical failure of

[1:51:40] the new transfer stations

[1:51:43] emergency systems mainly the exploding

[1:51:47] open uh door kind of sunlight sun what's

[1:51:53] the sunroof the

[1:51:55] >> skylight on the roof they are supposed

[1:51:58] to blow open I learned today because I

[1:52:00] went down there today um because they're

[1:52:03] open today um I went down and apparently

[1:52:06] that company is no longer in business.

[1:52:08] So we can't even warranty them.

[1:52:11] >> So that's not the good news. But they

[1:52:14] did not open like they would. So it

[1:52:15] trapped most of the smoke which was

[1:52:18] horrendous. We had zero zero visibility.

[1:52:22] But the fire was triggered and alerted

[1:52:25] to Spanish Fork and Dispatch via our

[1:52:29] infrared heat cameras. So that worked

[1:52:31] perfectly. But by the time our

[1:52:34] individual who was trained on our water

[1:52:36] cannons in the ceiling was able to

[1:52:38] actually get to the controls of the

[1:52:41] water cannons, there was zero

[1:52:42] visibility. And so we had our sprinkler

[1:52:45] system though that activated and was

[1:52:46] doing its job. But because we could not

[1:52:49] see, we tried to just throw the water

[1:52:51] cannons around to try and keep the

[1:52:53] temperatures down, which worked until we

[1:52:57] kind of pulled by the time all other

[1:52:59] departments showed up, they pulled

[1:53:01] pretty much all the water that Spanish

[1:53:02] Fort could deliver to that region of

[1:53:05] their city. And so we turned the water

[1:53:07] cannons off uh by instructing a few of

[1:53:09] the firemen that ran in there for us to

[1:53:11] turn those off. And thus that really

[1:53:13] kind of helped bump it a little bit. Um

[1:53:16] we our department was dispatched there.

[1:53:19] Um so thank you for that. Brian himself

[1:53:22] was there. Um but

[1:53:26] there is really very very minimal

[1:53:28] damage. Um

[1:53:29] >> the net had

[1:53:32] right above where the fire was. We had a

[1:53:36] slight melting and that was it.

[1:53:39] >> Wow.

[1:53:39] >> So the bird net is mostly fine. We had a

[1:53:42] structural engineer there yesterday.

[1:53:44] There was no structural damage to the

[1:53:46] building at all. All compactors were

[1:53:49] protected by the push wall. The building

[1:53:51] worked exactly as it was designed minus

[1:53:54] the smoke.

[1:53:59] » They didn't open.

[1:54:00] >> So the we had a few firemen go up and

[1:54:04] cut the skylights open to try and help

[1:54:06] ventilate.

[1:54:07] >> Um there was a lot of chatter that was

[1:54:10] misinterpreted. Um we'll leave whom uh

[1:54:14] anonymous, but I had heard at one point

[1:54:17] the roof of the building had collapsed.

[1:54:19] I had heard we had lost a fireman, that

[1:54:21] we had one in peril, we lost to two off

[1:54:25] or members of staff for the transfer

[1:54:28] station had been lost inside.

[1:54:31] None of that actually was true. Um and

[1:54:35] everything is working perfectly. So I

[1:54:37] went down there, like I said, today and

[1:54:38] I delivered some some garbage. And I was

[1:54:42] joking with uh the head of operations

[1:54:46] there and I said, "Well, we looks like

[1:54:48] we need a fire every year just to clean

[1:54:50] the building out cuz it looks brand

[1:54:52] new." Um squeaky clean. When you throw

[1:54:55] that much water into a building, you can

[1:54:58] really clean the floor really well.

[1:55:01] >> Um so worked out really well.

[1:55:03] >> They set so much why they couldn't give

[1:55:05] them any more water. Um, and it actually

[1:55:08] set off commercial fire alarms on their

[1:55:11] uh flow. They were getting flow sensors

[1:55:14] on three different fire alarms as we

[1:55:16] were leaving. There were three buildings

[1:55:18] that were evacuated

[1:55:20] um because their fire alarms went off

[1:55:22] and it was because the flow was running

[1:55:23] backwards.

[1:55:24] >> Oh.

[1:55:25] >> Because their pressurized systems backed

[1:55:27] off when the water pressure went so low

[1:55:30] that it caused it to see a flow alarm in

[1:55:32] their fire system. Ted knows about these

[1:55:34] things and it it was impressive.

[1:55:40] >> They had to keep rotating the fireman

[1:55:42] out through it because the smoke was so

[1:55:43] strong and the heat

[1:55:44] >> and the heat the heat was unreal.

[1:55:49] >> And those guys were inside of there.

[1:55:52] >> There was one I heard that got treated

[1:55:54] for a heat illness. Two. Was there two?

[1:55:58] all that gear. You guys have

[1:56:00] >> Springville's C team. Again, another

[1:56:05] plus for uh what Aaron wants to do and

[1:56:09] bringing C here. They're Springville C

[1:56:12] team is like they're they're the gold

[1:56:14] standard. They're awesome and they were

[1:56:16] there and they were just taking care of

[1:56:19] everybody. Incredible group of people.

[1:56:22] I was extremely impressed with the

[1:56:24] county and so this is kind of a kudos to

[1:56:26] the fire department's integration across

[1:56:28] the entire county. Lehi was in Spanish

[1:56:31] Fork backfilling because all of Spanish

[1:56:34] Fork's assets were at the transfer

[1:56:36] station.

[1:56:36] >> Provo to Santa every station from Provos

[1:56:39] to Santa.

[1:56:40] >> It was impressive. So, but

[1:56:43] >> forum got called out the next day to it.

[1:56:46] >> Later that night

[1:56:46] >> or later that night. So,

[1:56:49] >> building worked.

[1:56:53] Yeah, it was it was scary, but it was also

[1:56:58] impressive to see how fabulous it went.

[1:57:01] Uh my last one is for the legal updates.

[1:57:04] Um

[1:57:06] I want to uh say something more on the

[1:57:09] record here. Um

[1:57:12] and for those that are not aware, that

[1:57:14] is fine. But I want to say something um

[1:57:18] publicly and I'll get in trouble later.

[1:57:22] But we have a dear friend um publicly uh

[1:57:27] thinking that it is his uh personal job

[1:57:30] which he has certain rights to do um to

[1:57:33] post certain political cartoons which

[1:57:37] are fine. Um he has freedom of speech

[1:57:40] which is fine. However

[1:57:43] um they have uh meandered outside the

[1:57:46] scope of just coming after the six of

[1:57:49] us. Um, as elected officials, we have

[1:57:52] somewhat signed up for that uh degree of

[1:57:54] scrutiny. Um, and if there is anything

[1:57:57] valid, legal or truthful that needs to

[1:58:00] be brought forward by members of the

[1:58:02] community, we are always open to that

[1:58:03] type of criticism or even better, uh,

[1:58:07] suggestions for how we can make make our

[1:58:09] city run better. Um, many of these have

[1:58:14] gone after former elected officials,

[1:58:17] which have been abhorent. um and quite

[1:58:20] disgusting

[1:58:21] um as well as our staff um and if it

[1:58:25] proceeds

[1:58:26] um then discussions need to take place

[1:58:30] uh further um on what the options are

[1:58:34] there. So if they want to come after the

[1:58:37] six of us who are politically elected,

[1:58:40] uh we we are here to to take those

[1:58:43] arrows for the community. But if they

[1:58:46] extend beyond that, um we will be

[1:58:49] discussing with legal counsel what are

[1:58:51] the the options to protect those that

[1:58:53] serve our community in non-elected

[1:58:56] positions.

[1:58:58] And that is uh all I have to say on

[1:59:01] that, Terry.

[1:59:03] >> Yeah.

[1:59:04] Um, most recently our clerk has been um

[1:59:08] targeted um for not having an advanced

[1:59:11] degree. And so I did contact the state

[1:59:14] and the and verified with the league

[1:59:17] that um municipal clerks and reporters

[1:59:19] do not have to have a college degree to

[1:59:22] have their job. All qualifications are

[1:59:24] set at the local level. They have to be

[1:59:27] a registered voter and live within the

[1:59:29] municipality that they serve. Um, in

[1:59:32] addition, um,

[1:59:35] we send our clerk to the Utah Municipal

[1:59:38] Clerk's Association for multiple

[1:59:41] trainings. And if I'm correct, she has

[1:59:45] the Utah Certified Clerk credential,

[1:59:48] which means that she is up to date on

[1:59:52] her skills, her knowledge, and code. And

[1:59:55] so, according to our standards, she

[1:59:58] qualifies.

[1:59:59] And personally, we know that including

[2:00:02] then institutional knowledge, she's

[2:00:04] overqualified for what we actually have

[2:00:07] her do. And um we appreciate you, Jodie,

[2:00:10] and we want you to know that we support

[2:00:13] you and we want our residents to know,

[2:00:15] whoever listens to this, that our clerk

[2:00:17] is qualified 100% to be here in this

[2:00:21] position.

[2:00:22] There's no code, state code that is

[2:00:24] broken for her to be in this position.

[2:00:29] Thank you.

[2:00:31] >> I just want to add that I've sat in on a

[2:00:34] few meetings when we're having a

[2:00:35] discussion and somebody is trying to

[2:00:39] bring up some information but they don't

[2:00:40] quite recall the details and within two

[2:00:44] minutes Jod's like I just emailed it to

[2:00:46] you. She knows where she has the record.

[2:00:49] She knows where everything is. She can

[2:00:51] find it fast. She's very organized and

[2:00:53] has an amazing system. I just the the

[2:00:56] meeting I sat in on this week, I was

[2:00:58] impressed. She there were several things

[2:00:59] that she just found them and she sent

[2:01:01] them to the person that wasn't sure on

[2:01:04] the information and she had it at her

[2:01:05] fingertips and I mean that's a huge

[2:01:07] asset. I just had to put my two cents

[2:01:10] on.

[2:01:12] >> Perfect. On a lighter note, Council

[2:01:15] Member Hutchkins.

[2:01:16] >> Okay. So, uh, on January 1st, I'd send

[2:01:19] you all the invite to the, uh, the

[2:01:22] Central Utah meeting that was that was

[2:01:25] held. Um, if you guys don't know about

[2:01:27] Strawberry and how Strawberry Water came

[2:01:30] about, you'll learn a little bit in this

[2:01:32] video, but Strawberry Water has got a

[2:01:34] fantastic video on this. I got to see,

[2:01:37] and you can check it out on YouTube. I

[2:01:39] recommend it. This one's also on

[2:01:41] YouTube. Um, but this is talking about

[2:01:44] the papers that I gave to you. This is

[2:01:46] the the Nebo MU uh what is it called?

[2:01:50] Mutual. Yeah, the Nebo regional water

[2:01:53] project. There we go. Um so this is

[2:01:56] talking about the the

[2:01:59] uh

[2:02:00] the the water plant that they're

[2:02:02] planning on putting down here across

[2:02:03] from three bridges and and things like

[2:02:05] that. So So this goes through it's a

[2:02:07] really great video and I think this is

[2:02:10] going to explain it a lot better. So

[2:02:11] hopefully the sound

[2:02:15] >> on YouTube.

[2:02:16] >> Yeah, she just wants the link to put

[2:02:17] with the

[2:02:18] >> Oh, I can do that

[2:02:19] >> with the minutes.

[2:02:22] >> What the heck? How do we do this?

[2:02:24] >> Close.

[2:02:24] >> Do I have to unmute or something?

[2:02:26] >> No, just crank it up.

[2:02:27] >> It might even be the TV.

[2:02:29] >> It's coming on my speakers.

[2:02:43] This is the southern reach of Utah

[2:02:45] Valley. It stretches from Spanish Fort

[2:02:48] Canyon in the east to Gan in the west

[2:02:52] and Jab County to the south.

[2:03:01] It's a land of orchards.

[2:03:04] Alpha country, home to 200,000

[2:03:09] people and in 40 years time 300,000

[2:03:14] more.

[2:03:16] In the year 1899,

[2:03:18] South Utah County was a dry place

[2:03:21] settled by intrepid homesteaders.

[2:03:24] The Utah Lake Basin water supply was

[2:03:27] overtaxed. It could only support limited

[2:03:30] agriculture and development in the

[2:03:32] south. A citizens committee was formed.

[2:03:37] Governor Keer Manning Wells received a

[2:03:40] petition to ascertain if the waters of

[2:03:43] Strawberry Creek and Strawberry Valley

[2:03:46] could be brought into Springville

[2:03:48] through Spanish Fork Canyon for

[2:03:51] irrigation purposes.

[2:03:53] The Strawberry Valley is a high mountain

[2:03:56] basin in the Uintas.

[2:03:58] Strawberry Creek was impounded by the

[2:04:01] Strawberry Dam.

[2:04:03] an earthfilled structure 72 ft high and

[2:04:07] 600 ft long.

[2:04:10] But Strawberry Reservoir alone would not

[2:04:13] deliver water to Utah Valley. The Wasach

[2:04:17] Range stood in the way.

[2:04:20] A fourmile tunnel was proposed to be dug

[2:04:24] through the mountain. Two digging teams

[2:04:27] worked for six years.

[2:04:36] But the two tunnels meant they were mere

[2:04:38] inches apart.

[2:04:41] The strawberry waters reached Utah

[2:04:44] Valley in 1913.

[2:04:46] The project was a triumph of engineering

[2:04:50] which has served our valley well.

[2:04:53] A century has passed.

[2:04:55] The Strawberry Valley Project alongside

[2:04:59] the central Utah project made possible

[2:05:02] the Utah Valley we recognize today.

[2:05:06] Without the remarkable foresight of our

[2:05:09] 19th century county fathers, only a

[2:05:12] fraction of South Utah Valley's

[2:05:14] agriculture would exist. Today, Utah

[2:05:18] Valley's demand for water is changing.

[2:05:22] The demands of our grandchildren's Utah

[2:05:25] Valley are not going to be the same as

[2:05:28] the present day.

[2:05:30] The stakes are high. The coming

[2:05:32] generations will depend upon our ability

[2:05:35] to supply them with water that will meet

[2:05:38] their needs. This once in a lifetime

[2:05:40] challenge has been met by a proposal,

[2:05:45] one that matches the ambitions of those

[2:05:47] that lived a 100 years ago. This

[2:05:50] proposal merges the visions of the

[2:05:53] Strawberry Valley Project and Central

[2:05:56] Utah project working in harmony. To meet

[2:05:59] these future needs, the Nebo Regional

[2:06:03] Water Project, as it is called, prepares

[2:06:06] South Utah Valley and Chad County for

[2:06:09] the next century. The proposal includes

[2:06:13] the following. A state-of-the-art water

[2:06:16] treatment plant in Salem to supplement

[2:06:19] the limited aquifer sources.

[2:06:22] in closing the Strawberry Highline Canal

[2:06:25] to improve safety and water quality and

[2:06:29] to reduce inefficiency and loss. Clean,

[2:06:33] safe water pipelines to Gan and Jwab

[2:06:36] County. The plan also calls for a

[2:06:39] multi-use community trail at top the new

[2:06:42] Highline Canal pipeline.

[2:06:45] This proposal allows agricultural users

[2:06:48] to continue farming with an eye to the

[2:06:51] next 100 years.

[2:06:54] Our water needs have never been met by

[2:06:57] small ideas.

[2:07:00] Those who once proposed the Strawberry

[2:07:02] Valley Project could hardly comprehend

[2:07:05] the agricultural bounty their work would

[2:07:08] support.

[2:07:10] Today, we can only do our best to honor

[2:07:13] their foresight with forward thinking of

[2:07:16] our own. The Nebo Regional Water Project

[2:07:19] allows us to entrust Southern Utah

[2:07:22] Valley to future generations with clean

[2:07:25] water as our gift to them.

[2:07:36] Walking makes you old. Tai Chi

[2:07:40] Okay. So,

[2:07:43] >> that might have been the greatest

[2:07:46] movie ever.

[2:07:48] >> I think he needs to do my video.

[2:07:51] >> Yeah.

[2:07:51] he was good.

[2:07:53] >> Did he stood in a pasture?

[2:07:55] >> I need to.

[2:07:56] >> Yeah,

[2:07:56] >> that would help.

[2:07:57] >> Several of the places he was standing, I

[2:07:58] was like, I know where that spot is.

[2:08:00] >> I know. One with the trees and he's by

[2:08:02] the road. That's Santa. Anyway, it was

[2:08:04] funny. I was like, I know where he's at.

[2:08:06] Central Utah Water Project just laid

[2:08:08] last month its last piece of pipe. Now,

[2:08:10] the project's not over. That's actually

[2:08:13] going to continue with with more things,

[2:08:15] but what we're talking about is this Nebo project um that we've all

[2:08:20] heard about and have these, you know,

[2:08:22] the expectations. So, wanted to give

[2:08:24] that to you and tell you that there's

[2:08:26] lots of information and I have the

[2:08:28] contact for all of these organizations

[2:08:31] because I I I work with them at least

[2:08:33] monthly. Um, and so if you have

[2:08:36] questions, if you have information that

[2:08:38] you would like to get out to get from

[2:08:41] them, feel free to reach out to me.

[2:08:43] That's kind of what I'm I'm doing there.

[2:08:45] Um, and uh, you know, this this is

[2:08:48] actually pretty impressive what what

[2:08:50] they put together and what they've

[2:08:52] started here. Central Utah Water is

[2:08:54] you'll see it on your taxes, right? as

[2:08:56] part of our property taxes. Um they

[2:08:58] built that organization so that they

[2:09:00] could tax and actually put these

[2:09:03] infrastructure projects together. So

[2:09:05] that's the whole purpose of central Utah

[2:09:07] water. Um and you know I'm on I'm on the

[2:09:11] nebo board and I'm on South Utah Valley

[2:09:14] which is supported by both of those.

[2:09:19] >> Just a question.

[2:09:20] >> Um so it's pulling out of Strawberry

[2:09:23] Reservoir. Is that correct?

[2:09:24] >> Yes.

[2:09:26] So

[2:09:27] with new water going all the way down

[2:09:30] into say defi county um right now that

[2:09:34] water's not flowing down that far or is

[2:09:36] it getting down there but just through

[2:09:37] inefficient channels of canals or I'm

[2:09:40] just wondering if you have a certain

[2:09:41] number amount of water now we're going

[2:09:43] to add the tributaries out of that

[2:09:46] reservoir what's the plan to keep is the

[2:09:50] reservoir going to

[2:09:51] >> so they they actually so what they're

[2:09:53] one of one of there's a whole bunch of

[2:09:55] goals to it. One of the goals is to

[2:09:58] monitor. So we we put into place

[2:10:00] monitoring of our aquifers and our

[2:10:02] groundwater. And this is a big

[2:10:04] groundwater source. And they want to be

[2:10:06] able to balance those poles and and

[2:10:10] that's one of the big big projects here.

[2:10:12] And there's just not enough water. We're

[2:10:14] not getting enough water through the the

[2:10:16] original tunnel. Um and the dam is much larger than it was when they

[2:10:21] originally put it in. So strawberry is

[2:10:24] Ted, do you know it's like three or four

[2:10:26] times the size it was originally.

[2:10:29] Um it's it's a lot bigger than it was.

[2:10:32] So there's more water to to to actually

[2:10:34] pull from there. And and there's

[2:10:35] projects all over. This is just the one

[2:10:37] to get that surface water more available

[2:10:40] and more ready to use. Um

[2:10:44] >> too things they do like closing the

[2:10:46] canal

[2:10:47] >> that actually produces water. you're not

[2:10:50] losing it to the ground and to the

[2:10:51] evaporation

[2:10:53] to produce water. So, some of that now

[2:10:55] water's available to distribute to other

[2:10:58] counties. So, JWAB um the project is

[2:11:01] extended. I think it goes as far as

[2:11:02] Santa right now. Okay.

[2:11:04] >> But eventually they want to get it over

[2:11:05] into JWAB and some of that will come

[2:11:08] through these savings of waters

[2:11:12] the canals and stuff like that. Um a lot

[2:11:14] of these these waters have already been

[2:11:18] blocked out for communities. Um they

[2:11:22] have for example we have it's available

[2:11:25] to us water we find a way to take it. So

[2:11:31] they they've kind of accounted for the

[2:11:32] water already and then the savings that

[2:11:34] come also attribute to

[2:11:38] some of that water was produced for

[2:11:39] these other

[2:11:41] counties actually promised water.

[2:11:43] central Utah project years ago and kind

[2:11:46] of that kind of

[2:11:49] that went away and so now it's part of

[2:11:51] this water project there see if we get

[2:11:54] more back

[2:11:55] >> yeah I just wondered if I mean let's say

[2:11:57] it gets completed all the way to end

[2:11:59] state 10 years from now I don't know how

[2:12:02] long um the water that's there from now

[2:12:05] until that it starts flowing that far

[2:12:07] south does it just stay in the reservoir

[2:12:08] or is it just being dumped into Utah

[2:12:11] Lake and then eventually down Uh, I

[2:12:13] mean, you see what I'm saying? So, if

[2:12:14] you have a if you have a bucket full of

[2:12:16] water that's allocated to future use and

[2:12:19] that's not available to flow there, it's

[2:12:21] still staying in the bucket or is it

[2:12:22] being let out and being used somewhere

[2:12:24] else? Like, is somebody going to be

[2:12:26] losing their water access because we're

[2:12:29] now going to be pushing it?

[2:12:30] >> That I'm not sure and I can ask.

[2:12:32] >> I'm just I'm just wondering just because

[2:12:34] it's a big deal right now.

[2:12:35] >> Yeah. So, in effect they're producing

[2:12:38] more water. So that water now becomes

[2:12:40] available for example like j's a whole

[2:12:42] bunch of commitments with this water too

[2:12:44] because there's commitments for Utah

[2:12:46] lake you have to keep certain in stream

[2:12:48] flows to keep things

[2:12:49] >> that's kind of where I'm thinking it's

[2:12:50] like we're it feels like we're

[2:12:52] struggling just to keep our flow rates

[2:12:53] as they should be especially in a

[2:12:55] drought year like this year but in in in

[2:12:58] when we have abundant years um do we

[2:13:01] just let it just go and it ends up in

[2:13:04] who knows where or is it saved in and

[2:13:07] reserved for future use like these There

[2:13:09] is certain reserve that's kept in place

[2:13:11] and and and it's good it is because um

[2:13:16] this year with the winter we had we had

[2:13:19] a horrible runoff here but we had enough

[2:13:21] reserves in the reservoirs to help us

[2:13:24] get through this year from the

[2:13:26] >> good winters we had. Yeah.

[2:13:27] >> So there was enough reserve there. Now

[2:13:29] if we have two bad winners in a then

[2:13:31] we're really get in trouble. So if you

[2:13:33] looked at the beginning of this year

[2:13:38] the beginning of what we had previous

[2:13:41] >> um so

[2:13:43] yeah it's it's it's not a a simple

[2:13:46] answer but

[2:13:48] >> makes sense

[2:13:48] >> they do I mean they they did talk about

[2:13:50] how they you know they built straw or

[2:13:53] starvation and that you know a after

[2:13:55] strawberry they ended up needing to

[2:13:56] build starvation and then they needed to

[2:13:58] build

[2:13:59] >> um chordell and so all of those, you

[2:14:03] know, as water needs are are are

[2:14:05] happening, they're going to they're

[2:14:07] going to end up needing to look for more

[2:14:08] sources.

[2:14:09] >> Is this tying into what was done down in

[2:14:11] Salem? I don't know if that was a

[2:14:12] federal project or is that was

[2:14:14] >> that's the same project.

[2:14:15] >> It's the same project.

[2:14:16] >> That was the central Utah water.

[2:14:18] >> Yeah.

[2:14:19] >> Okay. So, like

[2:14:21] >> this is Yeah, this is the next project

[2:14:24] after that one was completed.

[2:14:25] >> Was that a federal project? The the

[2:14:27] central I just remember seeing a bunch

[2:14:29] of federal signs

[2:14:31] Utah conservy district, but Central Utah

[2:14:33] Water Conservancy District has, we'll

[2:14:35] call it two halves. They've got their

[2:14:37] federal side, which runs the federal

[2:14:39] projects. Um, and that's run under the

[2:14:42] Bureau Reclamation with the Central Utah

[2:14:43] District. And then you've got the state

[2:14:45] side that runs like the Central Utah

[2:14:48] project is a state project. The

[2:14:51] what was that project called was done

[2:14:52] back in the 30s and 40s and 50s.

[2:14:58] » Shoot, it just slipped my mind. I know.

[2:14:59] That's a bureau reclamation project and

[2:15:02] central Utah central Utah's kind of

[2:15:04] organized to run that bureau reclamation

[2:15:05] project and then just through savings

[2:15:08] and becoming a taxing entity now they

[2:15:10] can also do state project so they kind

[2:15:12] of do both. It was a federal project

[2:15:14] that was run

[2:15:15] >> through the state. Oh, through

[2:15:18] >> the strawberry

[2:15:20] project, the the tunnel

[2:15:23] farmers went to DC and took a loan out

[2:15:27] from DC for $3 million. Farmers from

[2:15:29] here

[2:15:31] went, it wasn't the state, it was the

[2:15:34] farmers who went to go do that and they

[2:15:37] put their necks out on the line to build

[2:15:39] that tunnel. The video that that

[2:15:41] Strawberry has is really is really good.

[2:15:47] » Wow.

[2:15:47] >> I just want to I just want a stretch of

[2:15:49] open water with fish in it so I don't

[2:15:51] have to go all the way to strawberry to

[2:15:52] fish. Give me a fly fishing space right

[2:15:55] here through the bottoms.

[2:15:58] >> I'm all in.

[2:15:59] >> Okay, perfect.

[2:16:00] >> Fishing the canals.

[2:16:02] >> I want a reservoir in Woodland Hills.

[2:16:04] >> Okay, now we're good.

[2:16:07] >> Okay, Council Jones.

[2:16:08] >> No, that was my only comment. It's

[2:16:11] fishing.

[2:16:12] >> It's fishing. Yeah.

[2:16:15] >> You don't have a report. You have a

[2:16:16] report.

[2:16:19] >> I spent a lot of time with the UVHBA and

[2:16:22] the Utah Home Builders Association. So,

[2:16:25] yeah, but nothing meaningful for the

[2:16:27] group unless anybody's got questions.

[2:16:30] >> Great.

[2:16:31] >> Council,

[2:16:34] I got nothing. Um, just we had the

[2:16:36] American 250.

[2:16:38] >> That's awesome.

[2:16:40] Um it was great. We had a good committee

[2:16:43] and um my only you know it was hard. We

[2:16:47] had some opposition and so we we had we

[2:16:52] were a little bit Debbie Downer about

[2:16:54] it. Just didn't know. I think a lot of

[2:16:57] people are afraid to

[2:16:59] you know rock the boat and so we were

[2:17:02] worried that a lot of people wouldn't

[2:17:03] come. But I was really proud of our

[2:17:05] community. We have a lot of rebels and I

[2:17:06] like it. Um anyway, so it was

[2:17:10] >> for the record, I don't think that

[2:17:11] rebels.

[2:17:11] >> Yeah. Is it Is it rebellious to go to

[2:17:14] the park on a Sunday?

[2:17:16] >> No, it shouldn't be. But um

[2:17:18] >> or to eat with your neighbor.

[2:17:19] >> We only shopped for 300. And I know we

[2:17:23] had a lot more than that. So I'm not

[2:17:25] sure.

[2:17:28] >> So I'm not sure how that worked, but I

[2:17:30] know that there were people that said,

[2:17:31] "I've got

[2:17:33] >> I cooked every one of those I cooked

[2:17:35] every one of those hot dogs." And I'm

[2:17:37] telling you,

[2:17:37] >> you did

[2:17:38] >> when did

[2:17:39] >> when they d when one dropped down on the

[2:17:41] ground, it was like we man down like we

[2:17:44] went resurrect. Somebody may have had

[2:17:49] a recated hot dog. I'm just kidding. And

[2:17:51] I'm just kidding.

[2:17:52] >> That was Dorl. That's fine.

[2:17:53] >> Yeah. Hey Dorl, this is yours.

[2:17:55] >> His constitution is ironclad.

[2:17:58] >> But we had four long tables set up for

[2:18:00] food donations and we had to add three

[2:18:03] tables.

[2:18:03] >> Wasn't enough. And um

[2:18:05] >> that was that was that was probably the

[2:18:07] most impressive thing to me was we had a

[2:18:09] really long line. So what was nuts is uh

[2:18:12] as I was cooking them, you know, like oh

[2:18:14] the line's really long and I'm just

[2:18:16] looking to my left. I'm like there's

[2:18:17] like 20 people. What are we talking

[2:18:19] about? I didn't turn my whole body and

[2:18:21] see the line that

[2:18:23] street.

[2:18:24] >> Um but yeah, the number of people that

[2:18:26] brought stuff I was actually kind of

[2:18:28] concerned about that. Not I'm just

[2:18:29] saying like three things. when you do a potluck event, you're just

[2:18:33] really hoping everybody chips in.

[2:18:35] Otherwise, I mean, no pun intended. Um,

[2:18:37] but otherwise, it's going to be a pretty

[2:18:40] sad looking hot dog fest there, you

[2:18:42] know, and so it was just great to see

[2:18:44] the community. That was awesome. That

[2:18:47] was really That was really great. And

[2:18:49] everyone, I think, had a great time.

[2:18:51] >> By the time I got through the line,

[2:18:55] I had a hot dog and all the food I ever

[2:18:59] could have wanted. There was so much

[2:19:01] food and it was all really good food. It

[2:19:05] was fun and the weather turned out

[2:19:06] perfectly. It was

[2:19:07] >> and we had we had quite a few people who

[2:19:10] were brand new residents or who just

[2:19:12] bought a lot and are going to build come

[2:19:14] through and one of them said, "Well, we

[2:19:17] just wanted to come to see what kind of

[2:19:18] a community we were we were moving into

[2:19:21] to see if we would fit." And we

[2:19:23] absolutely fit. This was perfect for us

[2:19:26] to come for our first thing. We had some

[2:19:29] people who hadn't been to a community

[2:19:31] event since before COVID and felt safe

[2:19:34] to come and be there. We had um others

[2:19:38] who may have not come in the past

[2:19:41] because they're a little older and they

[2:19:44] worry about coming when

[2:19:45] >> older people

[2:19:46] >> when there's a lot of um little kids

[2:19:48] running around or activities like a

[2:19:49] festival where there's people just going where they could just sit down,

[2:19:53] enjoy their neighbors and be there and

[2:19:55] feel safe and comfortable. So that was

[2:19:58] great to have so many of them there. And

[2:20:01] then um also there was quite a few that

[2:20:04] were visiting their you know kids that

[2:20:07] were are adults now visiting their

[2:20:09] parents and coming back home. And so I

[2:20:12] thought it was a great community event

[2:20:14] and almost everyone said we should do

[2:20:17] this more often. And um I think people

[2:20:21] have missed community and um something

[2:20:24] that I know mayor you've been um that

[2:20:26] was one of the things that you want to

[2:20:28] increase and um where people feel

[2:20:31] welcome. They feel like they can not

[2:20:34] just know who lives on their street but

[2:20:36] who lives in our city. And um so I

[2:20:39] thought it was great. Thanks.

[2:20:42] The only thing the only shortfall was,

[2:20:44] you know, the food, but it worked out.

[2:20:47] And then, um, just the hot dog. I was

[2:20:49] worried. But then also, um,

[2:20:52] Whitney and I were we were the cleanup

[2:20:54] crew, so I would I would, you know, make

[2:20:57] sure I have more more helpers next time.

[2:21:00] Whitney helped me. These two were out on

[2:21:02] the curb yakin for like put a bunch of

[2:21:06] chairs and tables away. I just had that

[2:21:08] condiment tray that I was like, I don't

[2:21:09] know if a bear is going to come. We had

[2:21:11] the bear out.

[2:21:12] >> It didn't do its job. Should have just

[2:21:14] left the food out.

[2:21:16] >> Just kidding. I apologize.

[2:21:17] >> I was useless. So, I'll go to that.

[2:21:20] >> It only mattered because I was I was

[2:21:22] still so sick. That was a thing. I

[2:21:24] didn't feel well. But um but yeah, any

[2:21:27] other time I wouldn't care.

[2:21:35] just expressing their appreciation for

[2:21:37] the event, hoping that you do it again.

[2:21:40] Some said, "I hear we're already doing

[2:21:42] it again." So,

[2:21:44] >> rumor,

[2:21:47] >> we're doing it again.

[2:21:48] >> We are doing it again.

[2:21:50] >> Okay.

[2:21:51] >> Put it on the the cycle of every year.

[2:21:54] This is now an annual thing

[2:21:55] >> except for Okay.

[2:21:57] >> Well, maybe we do it this the Saturday

[2:22:00] evening or something.

[2:22:02] >> Every year my we go to the cabin for

[2:22:04] Fourth of July. So that's why I say

[2:22:06] that.

[2:22:07] >> No, we we'll work the schedule. We'll

[2:22:09] figure it out.

[2:22:10] >> Okay.

[2:22:11] >> Uh we'll probably this next year if if

[2:22:13] Dorl's correct and the fourth is on

[2:22:15] Sunday, we'll probably push it to the

[2:22:19] Saturday or maybe the Sunday after. We

[2:22:22] don't have to necessarily put it right

[2:22:23] on top of the fourth, but we can.

[2:22:25] >> Yeah.

[2:22:26] >> Nobody I've never had anybody complain

[2:22:28] to me that we celebrate too much. When

[2:22:30] we get to that point, let's talk again.

[2:22:34] Okay. Other than council member John's

[2:22:38] Galler Makovich, the Utah Valley Animal

[2:22:41] Shelter,

[2:22:41] >> no report. We don't meet until August.

[2:22:44] >> Perfect. Okay. Council member Odin. Um

[2:22:49] just from a Speaking of events, um I've

[2:22:53] got the first iteration of our basically

[2:22:57] Microsoftware that's going to help us

[2:22:59] manage

[2:23:00] >> all of our events. So it's just the

[2:23:03] purpose of it is to uh from a data

[2:23:06] ingest perspective to make sure that we

[2:23:07] have vendors of the past that we've used

[2:23:09] before bids documentation

[2:23:12] um u uh

[2:23:15] >> are you capturing attendance

[2:23:16] >> counts attendance everything here um um

[2:23:20] we have all the events basically here

[2:23:25] and you're essentially the way I

[2:23:26] designed it is you're going to

[2:23:27] essentially have a yearly um the yearly

[2:23:31] season season component. So each time

[2:23:33] you add the new season, you can draw

[2:23:34] from previous, you know, so if you have

[2:23:36] vendors copy and paste, say tables and

[2:23:38] chairs for Woodland Hills Days, if we

[2:23:40] find a vendor who's good and affordable,

[2:23:42] we can easily pull them in, see what we

[2:23:46] paid the last time, get a bid. So, and

[2:23:48] it will it's all automated. So um and

[2:23:51] then everyone who is a chair or co-chair

[2:23:54] will be invited and will have limited

[2:23:56] access obviously to certain things that

[2:23:57] they're so already it already has

[2:24:00] governance built in and then as soon as

[2:24:02] they released their

[2:24:05] access will be removed but we still have

[2:24:08] administrative use. So that is ready to

[2:24:10] go. We're going to try it out at our

[2:24:12] next Woodland Hills Days meeting. See

[2:24:15] where there's gaps. I'll build out the

[2:24:17] I'll fill those gaps.

[2:24:19] That's great.

[2:24:20] >> It'll eventually be deployed, my plan is

[2:24:22] to eventually deploy it on the Woodland

[2:24:24] Hills uh domain. So, it'll exist on the

[2:24:27] domain. It will be owned through the city. Um and then all the

[2:24:31] code and the data set can be matched by

[2:24:32] the city instead.

[2:24:35] >> Thank you.

[2:24:36] >> Awesome.

[2:24:36] >> Okay. Anything for upcoming council

[2:24:38] meetings?

[2:24:39] I' I'd like to add that maybe we do a

[2:24:42] presentation about that the papers

[2:24:45] fundraiser opportunity pickle wall stuff

[2:24:51] >> just so we could start organizing it. I

[2:24:52] think we probably need to at least right

[2:24:54] on some level. I mean it sounds like

[2:24:56] you've done a lot.

[2:24:57] >> It'd be nice to organize it. I'd also

[2:24:59] like to see if we could get um this

[2:25:02] probably be as we get a little bit

[2:25:02] closer, but like it's always helpful if

[2:25:04] you have a goal instead of just an

[2:25:06] open-ended like if we can have a goal

[2:25:08] set of what the gap is between the

[2:25:10] funding and what we want to do and

[2:25:12] because it does help when people know

[2:25:13] where there's a target. I know we did uh

[2:25:16] several well when I did Hill days chair

[2:25:18] we did an infrared camera fund raise if

[2:25:21] I remember

[2:25:23] >> um and we knew what it was. We got a lot

[2:25:25] of $20 donations. That was awesome. And

[2:25:28] then we had a former mayor who saw a gap

[2:25:32] of $482 and that was her donation.

[2:25:35] >> She asked, "What are we short?"

[2:25:37] >> Yeah. She's like, "What are we short?"

[2:25:38] And she made

[2:25:39] >> We told her and she Yeah.

[2:25:40] >> And so it was awesome to see. So, but if we didn't know what we were raising

[2:25:44] toward, I don't know if anybody would

[2:25:46] >> Yeah, that's a great idea.

[2:25:48] >> So, let's let's figure out what we're

[2:25:49] actually raising toward so people feel

[2:25:51] like we're going toward a specific goal.

[2:25:53] And it's a good way to get people to

[2:25:54] kind of

[2:25:54] >> Can you get us a number? Ted,

[2:25:56] >> what was that? Yeah.

[2:25:57] >> Well, I think we need to understand what

[2:25:58] we want to do.

[2:25:59] >> But just Yeah, just like what we

[2:26:01] >> Yeah,

[2:26:04] >> we'll work on that. We'll work on

[2:26:07] >> Good. Yes.

[2:26:23] » Perfect. Yep. That'll be next council as

[2:26:24] well. Wonderful. Thank you, Jody. Okay.

[2:26:28] Uh let's take a quick break. Um, it is

[2:26:34] currently 8:27

[2:26:36] on my uh computer here. Let's start a

[2:26:40] council meeting at 8:33.

[2:26:47] » Okay, welcome back.

[2:26:49] >> Oh, welcome back. We're going to start

[2:26:51] city council meeting. Um, we are going

[2:26:54] to start with an invocation from council

[2:26:56] member Lunt and then a pledge of

[2:26:57] allegiance from council member Jones.

[2:27:00] Our

[2:27:04] dear kind and gracious heavenly father,

[2:27:05] we're so grateful that we could gather

[2:27:07] together this evening as council and

[2:27:11] staff members to go over our agenda

[2:27:14] items and to discuss the needs of our

[2:27:17] community and help us to always be

[2:27:20] mindful of all of our citizens and their

[2:27:23] what their needs are and what is best

[2:27:25] for the whole and help us to

[2:27:28] continue to make improvements to

[2:27:30] efficiency and to be mindful of our

[2:27:33] budget. Father, we ask for thy continued

[2:27:37] blessings and

[2:27:40] uh watching over our community and

[2:27:42] keeping us safe from fire. Help us to be

[2:27:46] conscientious of our neighbors and to

[2:27:48] look out for them. And we're so grateful

[2:27:49] for this opportunity that we have to

[2:27:51] serve. And we say these things in the

[2:27:52] name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

[2:27:56] Join

[2:28:01] to the flag of the United States

[2:28:06] and to the republic for which it stands.

[2:28:09] One nation under God, indivisible with

[2:28:13] liberty and justice for all.

[2:28:19] » So used to looking at the screen up.

[2:28:22] We're used to looking at your belly.

[2:28:24] Would

[2:28:26] you stand up?

[2:28:28] >> Thank you, uh, Council Member John's for

[2:28:31] that.

[2:28:32] Thank you, Council Member L.

[2:28:35] >> We are going to open the public comment.

[2:28:38] Uh, public comments are limited to two

[2:28:40] minutes per individual, unless otherwise

[2:28:42] directed by the mayor. Comments

[2:28:44] submitted by email must be received by 3

[2:28:47] p.m. on the day of the meeting to be

[2:28:49] included in the official record.

[2:28:51] Emmailed comments will not be read aloud

[2:28:53] during the meeting um but will be

[2:28:56] distributed to the city council and

[2:28:57] included in the meeting record. Um so if

[2:29:00] there's anybody from the public,

[2:29:04] do you have anything here? No.

[2:29:07] >> Okay. Um

[2:29:09] yes, Sherry Burgerer,

[2:29:15] you're still muted, Sherry.

[2:29:22] Hi.

[2:29:24] >> Hey.

[2:29:24] >> There you go.

[2:29:25] >> There we go. Okay. Um, public comment. I

[2:29:28] just want to

[2:29:31] express my appreciation for the fire

[2:29:34] department, the flags, and the

[2:29:37] friendship that we had over the Fourth

[2:29:40] of July weekend. Uh, it was fabulous.

[2:29:43] Um, in terms of fundraising for the

[2:29:47] park, I think it would be good if PTR

[2:29:51] can be involved from the standpoint of

[2:29:55] uh possibly informing at Woodland Hills

[2:29:59] Days what the plans are going forward,

[2:30:02] what we'd like to tackle next year so

[2:30:05] that the community can become aware of

[2:30:09] the things that we're thinking about

[2:30:11] doing with regards to the park. Um

[2:30:16] I

[2:30:18] Let's think a little big. Um I'm happy

[2:30:21] to help supply information.

[2:30:24] There's a lot of us in the city that are

[2:30:26] 70 and a half years older that have to

[2:30:29] take a required minimum distribution

[2:30:32] from our IRAs and our inherited IAS and

[2:30:37] those can be donated to the city

[2:30:41] um directly from your broker and not

[2:30:45] coming from you and therefore you don't

[2:30:47] pay tax on that money. Uh those could be

[2:30:50] substantial sums. we could plant trees.

[2:30:54] We could, you know, get into some of the

[2:30:56] projects

[2:30:58] uh that um we're kind of looking at down

[2:31:01] the road. So, if we can see Ted's

[2:31:04] spreadsheet on what exactly where the

[2:31:07] funds are going to be going this year,

[2:31:10] and again, I think it was um who was it

[2:31:13] Dan that said, you know, let's come up

[2:31:15] with a figure that we're trying to

[2:31:18] raise. Um, I think we can do really

[2:31:21] well. Um, I really do.

[2:31:27] » Beautiful. Thank you, Sher.

[2:31:29] >> And Sherry, thanks for all your hard

[2:31:30] work. You You worked really hard um at

[2:31:33] the event, so thank you.

[2:31:34] >> Oh, you're welcome. My pleasure.

[2:31:40] » Okay. Uh Diana, do you have anything?

[2:31:46] » Nothing today. Thank you.

[2:31:48] for joining us. Okay, then we

[2:31:51] will close the public comment and we'll

[2:31:54] move on to the consent agenda. And this

[2:31:56] is great because I don't have anybody

[2:31:57] online from the council. So, we can

[2:31:59] actually uh I don't think we have

[2:32:04] >> Oh, it is raining.

[2:32:06] >> Well, Carrie's usually gone into

[2:32:08] raining.

[2:32:09] >> Well, then we always have meeting right

[2:32:10] before I go. So,

[2:32:12] >> okay. Awesome.

[2:32:13] >> Um, wonderful. Okay, then we will start

[2:32:16] with approving the minutes uh for the

[2:32:18] June 23rd, 2026 city council meeting.

[2:32:22] >> I'll make a motion.

[2:32:23] >> Council member John's with the motion.

[2:32:25] Do I have a second?

[2:32:26] >> Second.

[2:32:27] >> Council member Malovich with the second.

[2:32:29] All in favor?

[2:32:31] >> Any oppose?

[2:32:33] Okay, that passes.

[2:32:36] Um, resolution 2026-44

[2:32:39] approving the ratifying end a year-end

[2:32:42] budgetary and accounting adjustments.

[2:32:44] >> I'll make a motion.

[2:32:45] >> Council member Malovich with the motion.

[2:32:47] >> I'll second.

[2:32:48] >> Second from Council Member Rhoden. Um,

[2:32:51] all in favor?

[2:32:53] >> Any opposed?

[2:32:55] Okay, that resolution passes. Approval

[2:32:58] of the auditing services for 2026

[2:33:02] and that is Larson and Co. Right. I'll

[2:33:05] make a motion.

[2:33:06] >> Council member Lunt with the motion.

[2:33:08] >> Can I ask a question?

[2:33:10] >> Uh if yes.

[2:33:12] >> After a second. If I get a second.

[2:33:13] >> I'll second.

[2:33:14] >> Council member Mount with the second.

[2:33:16] Now let's enter into discussion.

[2:33:18] >> Okay. Um is that for the 4500 that was

[2:33:21] originally proposed. Okay. Just wanted

[2:33:24] to get that

[2:33:24] >> perfect question. Thank you.

[2:33:26] >> Uh all in favor?

[2:33:33] » Yes.

[2:33:36] I don't have that paper with me.

[2:33:38] >> Um, I've got a copy here

[2:33:42] if it helps.

[2:33:45] There should be six years of pricing

[2:33:47] there.

[2:33:53] » So that's if that's for a single audit.

[2:33:55] So we'll be at 15,000. And if we have to

[2:33:58] do a single audit as well, if

[2:33:59] applicable,

[2:34:00] >> okay,

[2:34:01] >> then that jumps into the 45. So that

[2:34:04] would be in addition if needed. So it'

[2:34:05] be the 15,000 and then next year

[2:34:08] depending on how the RFP goes 1562

[2:34:12] 168.

[2:34:13] >> Okay. Perfectation. Thank you.

[2:34:17] >> Okay. Did I ask for a motion on that?

[2:34:20] >> Yes.

[2:34:20] >> Yeah.

[2:34:22] >> Wonderful.

[2:34:27] » All in favor?

[2:34:28] That's what I was.

[2:34:30] >> All in favor? Okay.

[2:34:32] >> Any opposed?

[2:34:34] >> Okay, that is approved.

[2:34:37] >> Authorizing the mayor to sign the

[2:34:38] sponsorship agreement between Woodland

[2:34:41] Hills and Utah County for the America

[2:34:43] 250.

[2:34:44] >> I'll make a motion.

[2:34:45] >> Council member Lent with the motion.

[2:34:46] >> I'll second.

[2:34:47] >> Council member Rhoden with a second. Any

[2:34:50] comments? Anybody wanting to throw me

[2:34:52] off again?

[2:34:54] >> All in favor?

[2:34:55] >> I.

[2:34:56] >> Any opposed?

[2:34:58] >> Okay, I'll do that. Um, approval of

[2:35:01] large purchase requests.

[2:35:04] Now, we can approve this and move

[2:35:07] forward. We can approve this and pending

[2:35:10] other bids. That way, we don't have to

[2:35:13] wait till the August 11th or we can

[2:35:16] approve this with a

[2:35:18] what are

[2:35:20] >> we can table it till the August 11th.

[2:35:25] maximum

[2:35:26] >> you're willing to spend.

[2:35:29] >> We can approve it with the amount

[2:35:30] budgeted.

[2:35:31] >> Yeah.

[2:35:32] That was was going to be my plan

[2:35:34] is to I I move to approve it with the

[2:35:38] amount budgeted.

[2:35:39] >> Okay.

[2:35:40] >> With the intent of getting additional

[2:35:42] bids

[2:35:44] and having them reviewed

[2:35:46] before

[2:35:48] >> a commitment.

[2:35:48] Okay. And I will reach out

[2:35:50] to each of you for that commitment.

[2:35:52] >> Yeah. And if it goes up,

[2:35:53] >> we have additional

[2:35:54] >> if it goes up because somebody else

[2:35:55] found something the first company

[2:35:57] didn't, we need to have more discussion.

[2:35:59] >> Wonderful. And I'd say let's put that on

[2:36:01] the August 11th, no matter what the

[2:36:03] decision is, so that it's made to the

[2:36:05] public as well.

[2:36:08] >> Okay. I have a motion from Council

[2:36:10] Member Hutchkins and a second from

[2:36:12] Council Member John's. All in favor?

[2:36:14] >> I.

[2:36:16] >> Any opposed?

[2:36:18] Good. I have two uh legal matters that I

[2:36:22] would like to discuss. One is an update

[2:36:24] and one is a strategic discussion.

[2:36:28] >> Um I have a motion. So I have a motion

[2:36:31] from council member Malovich.

[2:36:32] >> I'll second it.

[2:36:33] >> Council member uh Hutchings with a

[2:36:37] second.

[2:36:38] >> Anchings

[2:36:41] with an S.

[2:36:43] >> I've always had an S on the end of my

[2:36:45] name.

[2:36:45] >> Did I say Hutching?

[2:36:47] >> No, you didn't. It's a joke.

[2:36:50] >> Hutchkins. Um,

[2:36:53] Council Member Malovich.

[2:36:54] >> Yes.

[2:36:54] >> Council member Johns.

[2:36:56] >> Council member Hutchkins.

[2:36:56] >> Yes.

[2:36:58] >> Council member Roden.

[2:36:59] >> Yes.

[2:37:00] >> Council member Lent.

[2:37:01] >> Yes.

[2:37:02] >> Okay. Thank you so much. Uh, Diana.

[2:37:05] Looks like Sherry's already gone. We

[2:37:07] appreciate your attendance. We are going

[2:37:09] to move towards going into a close

[2:37:11] session.

[2:37:12] >> Yeah.

[2:37:21] The mayor knows how to do it. She might

[2:37:22] have gone home at this late.

[2:37:40] » I will uh accept a motion to adjourn.

[2:37:43] >> Motion.

[2:37:44] >> Second. Thank you.

[2:37:45] >> We are adjourned. Thank you everybody.

[2:37:48] >> Thank you.

[2:37:48] >> So no council rest of the month,

[2:37:50] correct?

[2:37:51] >> Rest of the month. You got it off, baby.

[2:37:55] >> Hey 24th,

[2:37:56] >> July and December. We do that. Is it the

[2:37:59] holidays?

City Council Meeting July 14, 2026

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