[0:00] Bonsoir

[0:01] et bienvenue à la séance ordinaire du conseil

[0:04] municipal, lundi 21 octobre. 24.

[0:09] And welcome to the regular

[0:11] meeting of the Municipal Council of Monday,

[0:14] October 21st, 2024.

[0:20] So now to open the agenda,

[0:23] I'm going to ask our city clerk to go ahead.

[0:28] Donc l'adoption de l'ordre du jour de la séance ordinaire

[0:31] du Conseil de la Ville de Beaconsfield du 21 octobre 2024,

[0:35] avec les modifications suivantes pour le point 20.3.

[0:40] Elle a pour titre, ajoutant en finalité,

[0:44] pour un montant de 1 168 650 $ et 70 800, toutes taxes

[0:50] incluses pour les services de base et un montant de 210 000,

[0:54] toutes taxes incluses, à parfaire pour les services complémentaires.

[0:58] C'est le point 20.3 pour le point 20.4

[1:03] qui concerne éléments experts conseils.

[1:05] On ajoute 299 912,45 $

[1:12] all taxes included

[1:15] services

[1:17] 16000 all taxes included.

[1:19] To be analyse for this service.

[1:22] Donc ça, c'est 20.4 20.5 pour MLC Associés.

[1:27] Nous ajoutons pour un montant de 171 674,74 $

[1:33] cents toutes taxes incluses pour les services de base et un montant

[1:36] de 26 000 $, taxes incluses, à parfaire pour les services complémentaires

[1:40] et enfin à 20.6 pour Boutillette Pariseau.

[1:46] for an amount of $397,860.47.

[1:52] All taxes include for basic services and an amount of $89,000,

[1:57] all taxes included to be finalized for additional services.

[2:02] Je propose

[2:06] qui a peu

[2:08] d'appuis.

[2:13] Alors

[2:15] tu vas en faveur

[2:18] à l'unanimité.

[2:21] Alors maintenant, nous allons passer

[2:23] au rapport du commandant Goyette

[2:27] sur les activités

[2:30] à Beaconsfield durant le dernier mois.

[2:33] Comment la cueillette

[2:38] fonctionne

[2:42] sans compter ?

[2:49] Thank you for having me tonight.

[2:51] So this is the report for the crime for the past month and begins film.

[2:54] donc les faits saillants pour le PDQ un depuis le dernier mois,

[2:57] avec une seule au niveau criminel assez tranquille.

[3:00] Ce mois ci, on parle de un voie de fait sur une personne.

[3:03] Il y a un vol de véhicule.

[3:05] Au niveau des vélos, notre escouade vélo

[3:09] et ils ont parcouru avec une file de plus de 100 kilomètres à vélo ce mois ci.

[3:13] Ils y ont également participé et assisté des étudiants de l'école

[3:16] de plusieurs écoles lors de sorties de vélo.

[3:19] Pour les sixième année et ils ont également assuré

[3:22] la sécurité lors de course.

[3:23] Terry Fox

[3:26] pour nos agents communautaires se sont présentés

[3:28] au Beaconsfield High School concernant un phénomène inquiétant dans les écoles.

[3:32] Dans les cours d'école

[3:34] des Fight Club, ils ont sensibilisé les étudiants

[3:37] aux nombreuses conséquences possibles et ils ont répondu aux questions

[3:39] au niveau criminel et rassurer également

[3:42] la direction.

[3:45] Pour ce qui est de la sécurité routière,

[3:48] durant le dernier mois, nous avons fait six opérations,

[3:51] entre autres sur Saint-Charles et Beacon Hill pour la vitesse

[3:54] dans les zones de 50 kilomètres heure.

[3:56] Neuf constats d'infraction ont été émis pour les contrevenants

[3:59] et six opérations ont été faites dans les zones scolaires

[4:02] et corridors scolaires pour un total de 29 constats.

[4:06] C'est ce qui

[4:07] conclut les faits saillants pour le dernier mois avec une.

[4:11] Merci de votre confiance.

[4:13] Vous pouvez en tout temps composez le cinq un quatre deux huit zéro zéro un zéro un

[4:17] pour joindre le poste de quartier un ou par courriel au PDQ

[4:21] un à Commercial SPVM qc.ca.

[4:25] Soyez assuré de notre disponibilité pour toutes préoccupations

[4:28] soulevées par les citoyens de Beaconsfield.

[4:31] Again !

[4:33] You may call (514) 280-0101 at any time to reach station

[4:39] one or send the email to Q one at SBM

[4:42] that you say that's it for any concern.

[4:46] Merci beaucoup

[4:50] any questions for the, commander?

[4:56] Oh, pas de question

[5:00] commandant, merci beaucoup.

[5:01] Et puis continuez à faire votre bon travail.

[5:04] La surveillance pour la vitesse avec une spéciale, c'est

[5:09] excellent comme travail.

[5:11] Merci beaucoup.

[5:16] go to the questions that, we received in writing.

[5:21] and, the first question was from

[5:26] Jean-Guy Blondin West Hill

[5:30] Les parcs de Windermere et Shannon sont jonchés

[5:34] de branches d'arbres qui n'ont pas été ramassées de l'été.

[5:38] Y a t il un suivi hebdomadaire de la condition des parcs

[5:41] pour la sécurité des enfants ?

[5:44] Alors, monsieur le Bureau vert, les espaces boisés, boisés

[5:48] seront traités différemment des espaces verts.

[5:52] Les branches au sous sol font partie du boisé

[5:55] et ne sont pas ramassées pendant l'été.

[5:59] Les surveillants de parcs vérifient

[6:02] les parcs et espaces verts quotidiennement.

[6:05] La patrouille municipale et les contremaîtres

[6:08] font également des tournées ponctuelles.

[6:11] De plus, lors de la tonte de gazon,

[6:15] les problématiques importantes sont signalées

[6:21] Second question is

[6:23] from Tom LaBelle from Filton.

[6:27] how many claims were filed against the city?

[6:31] How many have been settled via your insurance

[6:33] and what is best and worst case cost to the city?

[6:38] There were 432 claims,

[6:43] 2527 of which were

[6:45] submitted outside the deadline.

[6:48] Those 432 claims and 27 were received.

[6:54] The claims are still being processed

[6:56] by the insurer, so we don't have any, report

[7:01] on the claims themselves.

[7:05] The next, questions were

[7:10] from, Derek Pound's Sweet Bar.

[7:13] question one cultural center

[7:16] versus recreation center projects

[7:20] authorization.

[7:22] and use questioning on 20.3, 20.4

[7:25] and 20.5 and 20.6.

[7:29] Authorization to sign contracts for professional services

[7:32] with four members of the winning team of the multi

[7:36] disciplinary Architectural Competition for the construction

[7:40] of a multi-purpose cultural center.

[7:43] Although council are gung ho on this project,

[7:46] I am concerned that more important projects such as the Recreation

[7:50] Center Restoration Project are being neglected

[7:54] as the city received the $20 million grant requested in September 2023

[7:59] from Quebec towards the recreation center restoration.

[8:03] And if not, are they?

[8:05] Are there any alternative plans?

[8:09] The City Mister

[8:10] Panels has not received their requested grant.

[8:14] The city is still considering alternative plans.

[8:18] The recreation center restoration project is ongoing

[8:23] in February 2020, for a $2.2 million contract was awarded

[8:28] for professional services

[8:30] for the preparation of plans and specific actions

[8:34] relating to the renovation work and upgrading of the Beacon

[8:38] Hill Recreation Center,

[8:41] and in April 2020 for a $5.4 million contract was awarded

[8:46] for the renovation of the Recreation Center ice rink

[8:51] and there will be more investments

[8:53] proposed in the upcoming investment budget.

[8:57] I think we have to keep in mind

[9:00] that the rec center is 50 years old.

[9:07] The, next question

[9:10] had a rather long preamble,

[9:15] but the question is if the City of Beacon Shield

[9:20] requesting the photo radars be installed

[9:24] along A20 in Beaconsfield,

[9:27] the city made a request

[9:30] to the MQ in 2020 2012

[9:35] and again in 2019 for 48 hours on a 20,

[9:40] and the empty queue indicated both times that their request

[9:45] did not meet the applicable criteria

[9:48] for the installation of photo radars,

[9:52] and obviously, after two attempts,

[9:55] we do not plan on making another request.

[10:01] And the next question is from, Madam Corrado.

[10:07] Nicole. Go ahead.

[10:08] You said, Andrew, the first question is please ensure that demolition

[10:13] not be done unless the building is unsafe.

[10:16] She's talking about 130 Jasper

[10:20] and insist that the new

[10:21] building be in the same style and size as the original.

[10:24] And sure, trees are protected and sure trees are protected.

[10:30] Madam Corrado, the,

[10:32] demolition request is evaluated

[10:36] by the demolition committee.

[10:39] And, any the new building that will be,

[10:44] so that it was submitted, has a request for that property

[10:50] will be evaluated by the planning

[10:52] advisory committee.

[10:55] The, second question,

[10:59] what I'm gonna do is,

[11:01] again, it's a long preamble.

[11:05] but I we have summarized the question.

[11:08] The second question is regarding implementing additional animal services,

[11:13] including animal ambulance services,

[11:16] humane education services,

[11:19] the spay and neuter

[11:21] neuter clinic, cultural activities,

[11:25] animal activities, and other measures regarding wildlife

[11:29] and rodenticide bans.

[11:34] As for your suggestions on animals and regarding the dog pound

[11:38] madam, Colorado the city administration

[11:42] has already answered this question.

[11:45] I had a previous,

[11:47] I previous time and has indicated that the city has no plans

[11:52] to expand its animal services at this time.

[11:57] So those were your questions and answers

[12:00] to the questions that were submitted in writing.

[12:04] And now we can go to the questions from the floor.

[12:17] Bonsoir Pauline.

[12:19] Oui, j'ai une question à propos de 60.3

[12:24] la liste d'inventaire des immeubles construits avant 1940.

[12:28] Est ce que cette liste va être rendue publique ou va être publiée quelque part ?

[12:33] Je crois que oui.

[12:33] Mais je vais laisser monsieur Boileau vous répondre à cette question là.

[12:37] Je crois que oui, ça va être l'information qui va être publiée.

[12:41] Oui, ça pourrait être rendu public.

[12:44] On va le mettre sur le site web, mais c'est de l'information qui devient

[12:47] accessible au public une fois que c'est approuvé par le conseil.

[12:50] Puis il y a une

[12:51] centaine d'adresses sur des propriétés de 1940 ou avant

[12:55] qui sont sur le territoire de la ville et qui sont présentées à l'agglomération.

[13:02] C'est vraiment, c'est vraiment un fait.

[13:04] Ça fait suite à la loi 80, adaptée pour protéger le patrimoine bâti

[13:09] des propriétés de 1940 et avant

[13:11] donc là, ça va être rendu public.

[13:14] Il y a des travaux qui sont dans l'agglomération de Montréal

[13:17] à ce niveau là.

[13:18] Est ce que il faut être approuvé par Montréal ?

[13:21] l'Agglo,

[13:23] c'est à dire un comité de démolition ?

[13:25] On ne veut pas que ce soit approuvé.

[13:28] C'est que les propriétés vont être évaluées.

[13:31] Puis quand il va faire

[13:31] des demandes de démolition, on va devoir soumettre ça à l'Agglo.

[13:35] C'est l'Agglo qui va accepter ou pas que les maisons soient démolies.

[13:38] C'est pour ça

[13:39] que cette démarche là, qui se passait directement dans les villes avant.

[13:43] En plus, ça s'est passé au niveau des MRC agglomération dans le futur.

[13:48] Puis, est ce qu'il peut y avoir une

[13:51] une évaluation ou une restriction ?

[13:54] Qu'est ce que vous allez faire avec cette liste là ?

[13:56] Après les panneaux, nous, on fait rien, Là, on se met ça à l'agglo.

[13:59] Puis eux vont faire les évaluations.

[14:00] Il y a toutes sortes de documents et d'informations,

[14:03] puis qui vont être analysés à ce moment là

[14:06] par par ces

[14:09] instances là. Seulement, s'il

[14:11] y a une demande de démolition ou ils peuvent faire toute la liste.

[14:14] Bien.

[14:14] Je pense qu'il va analyser toute la liste pour déterminer les listes, les maisons

[14:18] qui devraient être prises en considération au moment d'une demande de démolition.

[14:22] S'il y avait des démolitions, évidemment.

[14:25] Donc c'est certain que c'est pas les quelques centaines d'adresses

[14:29] sur notre liste qui vont demeurer

[14:31] à caractère patrimonial, si vous permettez.

[14:34] Mais ça va être évalué par par l'agglomération en fonction

[14:38] des nouvelles règles qui ont été adoptées par le gouvernement du Québec.

[14:41] Je pense que c'était en 2023 juin 2023.

[14:45] Donc comme on dirait là, ça fait un peu plus d'un an

[14:48] que ce sujet là, il circule, un an et demi probablement.

[14:51] Puis est ce qu'on s'en servir ?

[14:53] C'était des maisons ou non.

[14:55] Il y aura pas de citations, pas de citations.

[14:58] En tout cas, pas à ma connaissance. Je ne pense pas que sont rendus là.

[15:00] Est ce que ça d'autres étapes dans le futur ?

[15:02] Mais à ce moment ci, ma compréhension, c'est qu'il n'y a pas d'hésitation.

[15:05] C'est l'objectif n'est pas de faire des citations là, c'est de protéger.

[15:09] En cas de demande de démolition, c'est quand même une certaine différence.

[15:14] Puis est ce que la possibilité de racheter des immeubles qui ont été construits

[15:18] après 1950 mais qui ont une certaine valeur patrimoniale d'unicité ?

[15:23] Mais là, à ce moment là,

[15:24] ça va se faire localement par le comité de démolition de la ville.

[15:28] Si la Ville décide, avec une bâtisse construite en 1962

[15:33] de devait avoir à caractère patrimonial toutes sortes de raisons.

[15:36] Mais ça, la ville, ce ne sera pas au niveau régional ou provincial.

[15:41] OK, j'avais une question à propos de notre point 20.1

[15:45] on parle d'achats d'antenne pour les compteurs d'eau résidentiels.

[15:49] Est ce que c'est essentiel

[15:52] d'avoir un changement de compteurs d'eau à ce point ci de l'année ?

[15:58] Euh. En fait, les compteurs

[16:00] d'eau que nous avons ont largement dépassé leur durée de vie utile.

[16:04] Donc oui, c'est essentiel pour question d'équité par rapport

[16:07] à l'ensemble des citoyens d'avoir des équipements

[16:10] qui compte l'eau de façon équitable pour chacun.

[16:13] Il y a des compteurs d'eau

[16:14] qui sont remplacés à chaque année pour toutes sortes de raisons

[16:18] de grosseur, de tuyauterie ou de fonctionnement douteux.

[16:23] Donc ces gens là, ils vont payer le plein montant de la consommation d'eau,

[16:26] ce qui n'est pas le cas pour tout le monde.

[16:27] Des compteurs d'eau qui ont plus de 20 ans, c'est ce qu'on devrait changer.

[16:31] Y en a plusieurs qui ont plus de 25 ans présentement.

[16:34] Même qu'il y en a qui ont 30 ans.

[16:35] Donc, il faut aller dans cette direction

[16:38] de gestion de l'eau potable de notre territoire.

[16:41] Mais si j'ai bien compris de près cette demande là.

[16:44] Puis il y a eu une demande qui, il y a quelques mois,

[16:46] ce que vous allez changer tous les compteurs de la ville tout d'un coup,

[16:50] ça sera une période de 2 à 3 ans,

[16:53] dépendamment des fournisseurs qu'on va trouver

[16:55] pour faire le remplacement de la capacité qu'on va avoir de procéder

[16:58] au remplacement de la collaboration avec les citoyens qui vont

[17:01] qu'il serait plus facile de faire les remplacements, donc plus difficiles.

[17:04] Il y a des endroits qui

[17:06] sont moins accessibles, donc vous avez des enjeux à cet endroit là

[17:10] où les compteurs d'eau dans leur maison, On leur fait que

[17:13] si on a des petits engins à quelques places, c'est minime. Là.

[17:16] Mais la grande majorité vont être remplacés

[17:18] dans les 2 à 3 prochaines années.

[17:19] Et alors ?

[17:20] Est ce que procède par quartier ou

[17:24] bien c'est pas déterminé ?

[17:25] Encore là du nouveau personnel qui rentre en place ?

[17:27] Qui vont étudier ça ?

[17:28] C'est pas simple pour ça

[17:30] et on a des changements qui se font présentement,

[17:31] donc on va leur permettre de prendre connaissance du dossier puis d'évaluer ça.

[17:36] Je dirais qu'on sait qu'il y en a environ 500 qui sont très difficiles à lire.

[17:39] Là, les lectures extérieures ne fonctionnent plus.

[17:42] Donc on devrait peut être mettre un peu heurté.

[17:44] On sait qu'il y en a un peu plus de 1000 qui ont été remplacés pour différentes

[17:47] raisons et besoins qu'on pourrait simplement aller installer des antennes.

[17:50] Donc on a ces deux volets

[17:52] qui vont être mis en priorité, mais c'est pas déterminé et encore

[17:55] pas certain que c'est nécessaire par secteur.

[17:57] C'est nécessaire par notre capacité d'agir avec nos listes de travail.

[18:02] Ça pourrait se faire en fonction de différentes priorités.

[18:05] Est ce que je peux pour une autre question, ça,

[18:07] à propos des nouvelles constructions qui vont être faites

[18:11] dans le futur, Il y

[18:12] en a un pour remplacer des démolitions.

[18:15] Est ce que vous allez prendre en compte

[18:19] le fait que certains endroits

[18:21] ont été construits sur

[18:23] des marécages et tout ça

[18:26] puis essayer d'avoir des maisons qui n'ont pas de sous sol ?

[18:29] Si c'est un endroit où il y a eu beaucoup de dommages d'eau

[18:32] dans les années précédentes,

[18:36] - À ce que je sache, il y a une

[18:38] carte qui a été publié récemment

[18:40] sur les zones inondables. Et à

[18:46] Beaconsfield, aucun bâtiment est

[18:49] dans une zone inondable.

[18:50] - Bien il y a eu beaucoup

[18:52] d'inondations.

[18:53] (rires)

[18:54] - Oui mais ça, c'est pas la même

[18:55] chose. C'est pas la même chose.

[18:57] Mais non, justement, on est en

[19:00] train de regarder de quelle

[19:02] façon est-ce qu'on peut rendre

[19:06] nos facilités un peu plus

[19:11] résilientes au genre

[19:12] d'inondations qu'on a eu. Mais

[19:13] vous savez, c'est tout partout,

[19:15] ces inondations-là. Je lisais un

[19:18] article, il y a quelques jours,

[19:21] Paris a été inondé de la même

[19:23] façon.

[19:24] - Mais, ce qu'on a vu, en tout

[19:26] cas, moi ce que j'ai

[19:28] connaissance, c'est que c'est

[19:29] des endroits où le terrain est

[19:31] plus bas, de façon naturelle.

[19:34] Donc il me semble que dans les

[19:36] endroits où les rues sont plus

[19:38] basses, on devrait plus

[19:40] permettre d'avoir des sous-sol.

[19:42] - C'est une question de pouvoir

[19:44] faire le drainage nécessaire

[19:46] dans ces endroits-là. Et c'est

[19:47] ça qu'on est en train de

[19:49] regarder.

[20:04] So so I'm Tom LaBelle on Bakersfield.

[20:06] So I have two questions for you.

[20:08] First one is, could you give us an update on the claim

[20:12] against the city of Montreal?

[20:15] You're the claim

[20:17] by the City of beacons for the city of Montreal.

[20:21] Well, no, we have no news.

[20:26] Everything has been done so far

[20:29] in terms of interrogations and, you know, preparing for to go to court.

[20:34] But now we're waiting for a court date.

[20:37] So, until we have a court date, nothing is going to happen.

[20:42] Okay, the second question I have for you is

[20:44] use talks about some 460 claims that people have submitted

[20:49] for two and a half months into the six month limit

[20:52] before somebody has to raise the bar to the next level.

[20:55] Is there any idea thoughts on how quickly

[20:58] the city is going to come to feedback to the people that made the claims?

[21:02] It's in the hands of the insurer.

[21:05] And, I don't know.

[21:07] I personally, I made a claim myself, my and to my insurance company.

[21:12] I'm still waiting for them to, come and give and he's.

[21:18] And if they give me a settlement as to why what I claimed. No.

[21:23] But for the people that made claims against the city, it's got to go to.

[21:25] Well, that the same thing here.

[21:27] It's in the hands of the insurer and they will determine

[21:31] whether it's a claim, a valid claim or whether it's not a valid claim.

[21:36] So the city's all just waiting for them right now.

[21:39] So the city does not handle it.

[21:42] Say the insurance company. Okay. Thank you.

[21:52] Well,

[22:03] Adoption of the minutes of the City of Beaconsfield.

[22:05] Regular council meeting of September 23rd, 2024.

[22:10] I propose second in favor.

[22:41] awarding of contract tip 2024 elephant for there's no

[22:45] clearing of the village and other areas, the sort of for winter 2024 2025

[22:51] with when you all options of one year each to the single and confirming bidder

[22:56] 7574 479 Canada Inc in the amount

[23:00] of 23,000 $569,069.88.

[23:07] All taxes included.

[23:09] Proposed I second in favor.

[23:53] A petition

[23:54] to sign a contract for professional services with LMA Epert Conseil

[23:58] Council member of the winning team of the multidisciplinary

[24:02] architectural competition for the construction of a multipurpose

[24:05] cultural center for the discipline of structural Engineering,

[24:09] Venkat is based on compliment case for an amount of $299,912.45.

[24:18] All tax is included for basic services and an amount of $68,000,

[24:23] all taxes included, to be finalized for additional services

[24:27] proposed.

[24:29] Second in favor

[24:36] signer un contrat pour des

[24:38] services professionnels avec MLC

[24:39] Associés inc., membre de

[24:41] l'équipe lauréate du concours

[24:43] d'architecture

[24:44] pluridisciplinaire pour la

[24:45] construction d'un Centre

[24:46] culturel multifonctionnel, pour

[24:47] la discipline de génie civil

[24:48] (24-SP-195)

[24:50] . Pour un montant de 160 11614

[24:53] dollars et 74 cents. Taxes

[24:56] incluses, pour les services de

[24:57] base et un montant de 26000

[24:59] dollars, taxes incluses, à part

[25:00] faire pour les services

[25:02] complémentaires.

[25:04] - Proposé.

[25:05] - Secondé.

[25:06] - En faveur.

[25:07] - À l'unanimité.

[25:11] 20.6 this authorization authorization

[25:14] Authorization to sign a

[25:16] contract for professional

[25:17] services with Bouthillette

[25:19] Parizeau et Associés, member of

[25:20] the winning team of the

[25:23] multidisciplinary architectural

[25:24] competition for the construction

[25:25] of a Multipurpose Cultural

[25:26] Centre, for the disciplines of

[25:27] electrical engineering and

[25:28] mechanical engineering contract

[25:32] (24-SP-195)

[25:33] . For an amount of $397,860.47.

[25:38] All taxes included for basic

[25:41] services. And an amount of

[25:43] $89,000, all taxes included, to

[25:45] be finalized for additional

[25:47] services.

[25:48] >> Proposed.

[25:50] >> And seconded.

[25:51] >> In favour.

[25:52] - À l'unanimité. Approbation de

[25:57] la liste des comptes à payer au

[25:58] 21 octobre 2024, et de la liste

[25:59] des paiements préautorisés pour

[26:00] la période du 12 septembre 2024

[26:02] au 22 septembre 2024 et du 24

[26:03] septembre 2024 au 9 octobre

[26:06] 2024, pour un déboursé total de

[26:10] 4 205 986,31 $.

[26:15] - Voici les montants importants,

[26:19] le montant de 4 millions. 599287

[26:25] et 21, construction Arcade pour

[26:29] le décompte progressif numéro 3,

[26:33] concernant la rénovation de la

[26:35] patinoire. 361004... 361491 et

[26:42] 18

[26:43] (---)

[26:44] pour un décompte progressif

[26:45] numéro 1 conservant la

[26:46] réhabilitation structural de

[26:47] conduite d'aqueduc. 220009 85,

[26:53] excavation Roxboro, pour des

[26:54] comptes progressifs numéro 2,

[26:56] concernant la réfection des

[26:58] chaussures... des chaussées

[26:59] souples. Et pas des chaussures.

[27:05] 143395 et 60 des 700, Lemay et

[27:08] compagnie Hank, pour la

[27:10] prestation concernant le

[27:11] concours d'architecture

[27:15] pluridisciplinaire pour centre

[27:16] culturel. 126279 29, Services

[27:22] des espaces verts pour le

[27:23] traitement contre la grille. Et

[27:26] finalement, les salaires à

[27:29] 463572 et 17 cents. Je propose.

[27:35] En faveur.

[27:36] - À l'unanimité.

[27:38] >> Approval of a $400

[27:40] contribution to Clovis

[27:42] Sanscartier for participating in

[27:43] two bicycle competitions, La

[27:44] Ronde des Vallées and Les

[27:48] Boucles de l'Oise U19 in France

[27:49] from August 10 to 11, 2024, and

[27:50] from August 17 to 18, 2024.

[27:56] - Je propose.

[27:58] - Je seconde.

[27:59] - En faveur.

[28:01] - À l'unanimité. Demande

[28:04] d'autorisation de corriger les

[28:05] nuisances aux 132-146, Larch et

[28:07] de facturer le coût des travaux

[28:08] au propriétaire, en vertu du

[28:10] Règlement BEAC-033.

[28:18] - À l'unanimité.

[28:21] >> Authorization to correct

[28:23] nuisances at 548, 550 and 552

[28:25] Beaconsfield and to bill the

[28:26] costs to the owner, in virtue of

[28:28] By-law BEAC-033.

[28:32] >> Proposed.

[28:33] >> I second.

[28:34] >> In favour.

[28:35] - À l'unanimité. Demande de

[28:40] révision de la décision du

[28:41] Comité de démolition du 21 août

[28:42] 2024 concernant le bâtiment

[28:43] situé au 130, Jasper. La

[28:46] recommandation serait de

[28:47] maintenir la décision du comité

[28:48] de démolition.

[28:51] >> Proposed.

[28:52] >> Seconded.

[28:53] - En faveur d'accepter la

[28:55] décision du comité de

[28:57] dévolution. Démolitions, pardon.

[29:02] Contre?

[29:09] >> Motion carried.

[29:10] - La démolition est acceptée?

[29:12] - La démolition est maintenue,

[29:14] oui.

[29:19] >> Request for minor exemption

[29:21] of -- located at 135 Evergreen

[29:23] our recommendation is to

[29:24] approve.

[29:27] >> Proposed.

[29:28] >> Second.

[29:29] >> In favour.

[29:33] - À l'unanimité. Demande

[29:37] d'approbation du Plan

[29:38] d'implantation et d'intégration

[29:39] architecturale

[29:40] (PIIA)

[29:41] relatif à la demande d'un permis

[29:42] de construction pour un nouveau

[29:43] bâtiment principal situé au 114,

[29:46] Brentwood. La recommandation

[29:49] était refusé.

[29:50] - Opposé.

[29:51] - Secondé.

[29:52] - En faveur.

[29:54] - Pas à l'unanimité.

[29:58] >> Request for the approval of

[29:59] the Site Planning and

[30:00] Architectural Integration

[30:01] Programme

[30:02] (SPAIP)

[30:03] relating to a building permit

[30:04] application for a new main

[30:05] building located at 372

[30:06] Chantilly. The recommendation is

[30:07] to approve according to the

[30:10] option brick.

[30:11] >> Proposed.

[30:12] >> I second.

[30:13] >> In favour.

[30:16] - À l'unanimité. Demande

[30:18] d'approbation du Plan

[30:19] d'implantation et d'intégration

[30:20] architecturale

[30:21] (PIIA)

[30:22] relatif à la demande d'un permis

[30:23] de construction pour

[30:24] l'agrandissement du bâtiment

[30:25] principal situé au 69, Circle.

[30:27] La recommandation est

[30:28] d'approuver selon les plans

[30:30] déposés reliés octobre 2024.

[30:32] - Opposé.

[30:33] - J'appuie.

[30:34] - En faveur.

[30:36] - À l'unanimité.

[30:40] >> Request for the approval of

[30:41] the Site Planning and

[30:42] Architectural Integration

[30:43] Programme

[30:44] (SPAIP)

[30:45] relating to a building permit

[30:46] application for the extension of

[30:47] the main building located at 116

[30:48] Angell. The recommendation is to

[30:49] refuse.

[30:50] >> Proposed.

[30:51] >> Seconded.

[30:52] >> In favour.

[30:55] - À l'unanimité. Demande

[30:58] d'approbation du Plan

[30:59] d'implantation et d'intégration

[31:00] architecturale

[31:01] (PIIA)

[31:02] relatif à la demande d'un permis

[31:03] de construction pour

[31:04] l'agrandissement du bâtiment

[31:05] principal situé au 233,

[31:06] Cadillac. Le recommandation est

[31:07] de refuser.

[31:08] - Proposé.

[31:09] - J'appuie.

[31:11] - En faveur.

[31:13] - À l'unanimité.

[31:16] >> Request for the approval of

[31:17] the Site Planning and

[31:18] Architectural Integration

[31:19] Programme

[31:20] (SPAIP)

[31:21] relating to a building permit

[31:22] application for the modification

[31:23] of the facade of a main building

[31:24] located at 113 Brentwoood. The

[31:26] recommendation is to approve.

[31:28] >> Proposed.

[31:29] >> Seconded.

[31:31] - En faveur.

[31:33] >>

[31:34] - À l'unanimité. Demande

[31:36] d'approbation du Plan

[31:37] d'implantation et d'intégration

[31:38] architecturale

[31:39] (PIIA)

[31:40] relatif à la demande d'un permis

[31:41] de construction pour la

[31:42] modification de la façade du

[31:43] bâtiment principal situé au 409,

[31:44] Bishop. La recommandation est

[31:45] d'approuver selon le plan déposé

[31:47] le 10 octobre 2024.

[31:50] - Proposé.

[31:52] >> Second.

[31:56] - En faveur.

[31:57] - À l'unanimité.

[31:58] >> Acceptance of an amount of

[32:01] $17,074.20 for park fees to be

[32:05] paid by the owner of lot 1 969

[32:09] 758

[32:10] (372 Chantilly)

[32:11] to the City, according to By-law

[32:13] BEAC-128 concerning

[32:14] contributions for the

[32:15] establishment, maintenance and

[32:16] improvement of parks,

[32:17] playgrounds and natural areas on

[32:18] the City of Beaconsfield's

[32:21] territory.

[32:24] >> Proposed.

[32:26] >> Seconded.

[32:27] >> In favour.

[32:29] - À l'unanimité.

[32:37] Demande de décision concernant

[32:38] la contribution pour fins

[32:39] d'établissement, de maintien et

[32:40] d'amélioration de parcs,

[32:41] terrains de jeux et espaces

[32:42] naturels pour le 516, Lakeshore.

[32:44] >> I'm proposing that we accept

[32:46] the money in an approximate

[32:47] amount of $170,000.

[32:51] >> I second.

[32:53] >> In favour. Against? I will

[33:00] need to hold on this one, so I

[33:02] will vote to accept the money.

[33:07] >> Okay, thank you.

[33:18] >> Nomination in view of

[33:19] permanency as Directeur, Travaux

[33:20] publics to position 5000.

[33:23] - Je propose.

[33:24] - J'appuie.

[33:25] - En faveur.

[33:28] - À l'unanimité. Procès-verbal

[33:31] de la réunion du Comité

[33:32] consultatif d'urbanisme du 2

[33:33] octobre 2024.

[33:40] >> No new comments from when we

[33:43] cover the projects, so there's

[33:44] nothing additional.

[33:45] >> Okay, so you propose?

[33:46] >> I propose those minutes.

[33:49] >> I second them.

[33:52] - En faveur.

[33:54] - À l'unanimité.

[33:57] >> Minutes of the launch meeting

[33:59] of the Age-Friendly Municipality

[34:00] (AFM)

[34:01] Steering Committee of September

[34:02] 23, 2024.

[34:06] >> Madam Chairman, I think you

[34:08] have a few words to say.

[34:09] >> I do. Thank you, Mister

[34:11] Mayor. On September 23rd, we had

[34:13] our first Age-Friendly

[34:14] Municipality Steering Committee

[34:17] meeting. The committee is

[34:19] comprised of myself as chair and

[34:21] Councillor Moss as co-chair,

[34:22] along with a number of citizens

[34:24] of Beaconsfield and members of

[34:26] different organizations that

[34:28] help our seniors. We also have

[34:30] three members from the city

[34:32] administration. I would like to

[34:33] thank all the members of the

[34:35] committee for your time and

[34:37] helping create the new we matter

[34:40] action plan for the City. The

[34:41] foreman of the new action plan

[34:43] will include extensive

[34:45] discussions with various focus

[34:47] groups, and will include public

[34:48] survey that would lead us to

[34:50] adopting a municipal policy and

[34:52] action plan that will determine

[34:54] realistic and feasible actions

[34:55] by the City. This plan will be

[34:58] presented to Council for

[34:59] approval in the summer of 2025.

[35:02] After council approves it, there

[35:04] will be a monitoring committee

[35:06] that will be formed and will

[35:08] hold biannual meetings to

[35:10] monitor the action plan. We are

[35:12] on our way and we are very

[35:13] excited, Mister Mayor, thank

[35:15] you.

[35:16] >> So, you propose?

[35:17] >> I propose. Proposed.

[35:19] >> I second.

[35:21] >> All in favour.

[35:27] - Procès-verbal de la réunion du

[35:28] Comité consultatif de

[35:29] l'environnement du 10 septembre

[35:30] 2024.

[35:32] >> Anything, Mister Chairman, to

[35:34] say?

[35:35] - Oui, merci, Monsieur le Maire.

[35:38] >> So certainly, the

[35:40] environmental committee is

[35:41] always considering the

[35:44] environment, just monitoring,

[35:45] you know, what's happening.

[35:48] Mostly I guess around the world.

[35:50] But we are seeing how the

[35:53] environment is certainly been

[35:54] greatly affected with global

[35:57] crises, global warming, the

[35:59] climate crisis, and how -- to

[36:01] affect us here in Beaconsfield

[36:04] as of April night with all the

[36:06] flooding we've had so very

[36:08] unfortunate and I did want to

[36:09] mention that the pamphlet that

[36:11] the special contact magazine

[36:13] that the City had printed for

[36:16] distribution for all of our

[36:17] residents, I think, is very

[36:20] interesting magazine. It talks a

[36:22] little bit about the flooding

[36:24] situation but also provides some

[36:27] ideas and suggestions on how we

[36:29] can maybe try to minimize and

[36:31] protect our homes. Alors ça,

[36:34] c'est une revue qui a eu un très

[36:36] bon impact avec nos lecteurs. Si

[36:39] vous avez des questions pour

[36:41] essayer de minimiser les

[36:44] (inaudible)

[36:45] . On sait certainement que on va

[36:48] avoir d'autres de plus.

[36:50] The environment, you know, the

[36:52] climate changes are here to

[36:53] stay, in my belief. And I think

[36:55] we need to protect ourselves and

[36:57] the only way we can do that is

[36:59] to actually look at little ways,

[37:03] I guess you could call them in

[37:04] baseball, like singles hits of,

[37:06] you know, looking at areas where

[37:07] we can just do our little part

[37:09] to reduce carbon, reduce methane

[37:12] gas, which is contributing to,

[37:15] you know, global warming. And at

[37:17] the same time, just to, you

[37:21] know, consider other little

[37:22] things that certainly the

[37:23] committee is always concerned

[37:25] about and mentioning to the

[37:27] public. And to Council, things

[37:29] like water consumption is really

[37:31] important. We take water for

[37:33] granted. I think in Canada.

[37:36] Sunday, it'll be a tremendous

[37:38] resource, you know? For sale,

[37:40] potentially, to the world, much

[37:41] like oil is. At the same time,

[37:44] we always talk about the

[37:45] importance of trees, the canopy

[37:47] to Beaconsfield and how it

[37:50] provides shade in the

[37:52] summertime. Now I'm thinking

[37:53] having read an article several

[37:55] months ago that suggests that

[37:59] big, mature trees actually

[38:01] absorb 40 to 50,000 gallons of

[38:03] water per year, per tree. To

[38:05] work that out, it's almost the

[38:07] equivalent of what let's say

[38:09] about 50% of the average

[38:13] consumer's water consumption is.

[38:17] So, it's significant what a tree

[38:18] can do in terms of just

[38:20] absorbing the water from our

[38:22] lawns and our properties, and of

[38:24] course, we are hearing some

[38:25] flooding is being caused because

[38:27] of underground water streams,

[38:29] but at the same time, I think

[38:31] trees can probably be of help in

[38:33] certain areas in terms of

[38:36] absorbing some of that

[38:37] groundwater. The other thing

[38:38] we've talked about and focus on

[38:41] at the last meeting is to create

[38:43] or to have, start looking at

[38:46] plants that we could suggest to

[38:48] either the city or to the public

[38:50] to be able to plant flowers and

[38:54] in our gardens for bees and

[38:57] butterflies. They're important

[38:59] pollinators, they're on an

[39:01] endangered species. So, you

[39:04] know, I'm happy to hear that the

[39:06] City is actually going to plant

[39:09] some, you know, perennial

[39:12] milkweed plants here in the

[39:15] city. I think there's one park

[39:17] that the City has elected and

[39:19] they've already -- at least this

[39:22] past fall, so there's 30

[39:25] milkweed. It's going to be the

[39:26] little green space that's on St.

[39:28] Charles and Creswell, so I think

[39:30] that's going to be an important

[39:31] start to try to help pollinators

[39:36] that are extremely important to

[39:37] our society. And the other thing

[39:40] is that I just like to mention

[39:42] as well that in this article,

[39:45] the magazine, there's a piece on

[39:47] wood burning. The legislation

[39:52] that was put into force last

[39:57] year, which is basically that,

[39:58] you know, our residents should

[40:01] consider when they're burning

[40:02] wood and especially to

[40:04] understand that the new

[40:05] legislation, for those

[40:07] homeowners who do not use any P

[40:09] A 2.5, to burn wood, that there

[40:13] is a limit of to burn wood,

[40:17] which is six hours for every 48

[40:19] hour period. And of course, we

[40:21] all know that wood smoke is

[40:23] certainly unhealthy to breathe.

[40:26] And so, certainly I would hope

[40:28] that would burners would take

[40:29] that into consideration, make

[40:31] sure that they have an EPA 2.5

[40:33] and to be considerate of others

[40:36] when they are burning. So, I

[40:38] propose the minutes, Mister

[40:39] Mayor. Thank you.

[40:43] >> Who is seconding?

[40:48] >> I will, I'm sorry. Second.

[40:51] >> In favour.

[40:54] - Unanimité.

[40:58] >> Deposit of the minutes of the

[40:59] Demolition Committee meeting of

[41:00] August 21, 2024.

[41:01] - Des commentaires, Monsieur le

[41:03] Président?

[41:04] - Merci, Monsieur le Maire.

[41:05] >> Essentially on that date, we

[41:07] reviewed to requests for

[41:10] demolition's. Both on evergreen

[41:12] and Jasper were awarded and as

[41:14] we've seen today earlier, one of

[41:17] those two demolitions was

[41:18] subject to a review process and

[41:20] a decision was maintained. So

[41:22] there we go.

[41:28] - Proposé. C'est un dépôt?

[41:31] - Nomination d'un membre du

[41:33] comité consultatif de culture et

[41:35] loisirs.

[41:38] - Oui, je propose.

[41:42] - Qu'est-ce que vous avez des

[41:43] commentaires sur la personne?

[41:44] - La personne? Oui. On a le

[41:46] plaisir d'avoir monsieur Simon

[41:48] Bélanger ici avec nous au

[41:51] conseil. Monsieur Bélanger est

[41:54] nouvellement à Beaconsfield avec

[41:57] ces deux jeunes enfants. Il

[41:59] s'est proposé comme candidat et

[42:01] je suis vraiment ravi que tu te

[42:05] joignent à notre équipe. Je

[42:08] propose.

[42:09] - Propose? Qui seconde?

[42:10] - Ça me semble être une bonne

[42:12] personne alors j'appuie.

[42:13] (rires)

[42:14] (rires)

[42:15] - Merci. En faveur. Unanime.

[42:20] (rires)

[42:21] (rires)

[42:22] -

[42:23] Renouvellement de membres du

[42:24] Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

[42:25] >> Nomination of a member of to

[42:26] the Culture and Leisure Advisory

[42:27] Committee

[42:28] (2)

[42:29] .

[42:30] >> Yeah, I think this is the

[42:31] second person that we have.

[42:32] >> It is, yeah, we are busy. So,

[42:33] it's Christine Ryan and just

[42:35] she's not here tonight but I

[42:36] just wanted to take a second to

[42:37] say that the culture and leisure

[42:40] advisory committee is one of six

[42:41] committees and like my fellow

[42:45] councillor, Councillor

[42:47] Alexopoulos said, we can't do it

[42:48] without a residence. So, this

[42:51] committee advises Beaconsfield

[42:52] council on goals, strategies,

[42:55] and new initiatives related to

[42:57] culture and leisure services,

[42:59] and community events. So, all of

[43:02] what we do and up in the

[43:04] contact. So, I propose.

[43:06] >> I second.

[43:07] >> In favour.

[43:16] >> Mister Chairman, would you

[43:18] have any comments?

[43:19] >> So, I'm proposing a renewal

[43:20] of a member pretty active on the

[43:22] committee tonight, lots of --

[43:24] so, I'm delighted to renew the

[43:26] mandate for Mr. Graham mag.

[43:29] Graham has been on the committee

[43:30] for a number of years and we are

[43:32] delighted to have him back. He's

[43:35] definitely been a dedicated

[43:38] participant and very, very

[43:40] active in the meetings. Very

[43:41] communicative and definitely

[43:43] brings forth a lot of his ideas

[43:45] on the P.A.C. Committee. And

[43:47] again, as a little bit of the

[43:49] reminder, the pack committee is

[43:51] actually the committee that

[43:53] really reviews all the building

[43:55] projects, typically mostly homes

[43:57] and so on, that are submitted to

[43:58] the City. So, he's one of six

[44:01] residents -- Beaconsfield a help

[44:02] to decide and make

[44:03] recommendations to Council about

[44:05] these new properties. So, we're

[44:06] delighted to have Graham back on

[44:08] the committee and look forward

[44:10] to seeing him again at the next

[44:12] meeting.

[44:13] >> Do you propose?

[44:14] >> So, we propose Graham mag to

[44:17] renew his membership on --

[44:20] >> I happily second.

[44:24] >> Very good. In favour.

[44:27] - À l'unanimité.

[44:30] >> Adoption of the City of

[44:31] Beaconsfield's calendar of

[44:34] regular Council meetings for

[44:35] 2025.

[44:36] - Je propose.

[44:37] >> Second.

[44:39] - En faveur.

[44:41] - À l'unanimité.

[44:47] Résolution désignant le 19

[44:48] novembre la Journée de

[44:49] sensibilisation au cancer de la

[44:50] prostate.

[44:51] >> Proposed.

[44:52] >> And seconded.

[44:53] >> In favour.

[44:58] - À l'unanimité.

[45:01] >> Approval of the inventory

[45:02] list of buildings built before

[45:03] 1940 on the territory of the

[45:04] City of Beaconsfield and

[45:06] recommendation of adoption to

[45:07] the Montreal Agglomeration

[45:09] Council.

[45:12] >> Proposed.

[45:13] >> Seconded.

[45:15] >> In favour.

[45:17] - À l'unanimité. Autorisation

[45:20] pour la fermeture de rues pour

[45:21] le Train des Fêtes Canadien

[45:22] Pacifique Kansas City le 22

[45:23] novembre 2024 de 19 h à 21 h 30.

[45:28] - Proposé.

[45:29] - J'appuie.

[45:30] - En faveur.

[45:31] (rires)

[45:37] >> I think I remember for the

[45:41] first year I was mayor, we had

[45:44] the train here in Beaconsfield

[45:46] and so, it's been a long time

[45:48] since we've had the train. It's

[45:50] an event that a lot of kids come

[45:55] with their parents and so look

[45:57] at the train. It's really all

[46:01] decorated, the train. Normally

[46:04] there is a show that comes along

[46:07] with the train that lasts, I

[46:10] don't know, 15, 20 minutes. So,

[46:13] it's a very nice event and I

[46:15] would recommend to anyone that

[46:18] is listening to attend the train

[46:23] event on November 22nd.

[46:29] - À l'unanimité.

[46:33] - Tout le monde était d'accord.

[46:34] >> Resolution in support of the

[46:35] campaign: UNiTE to End Violence

[46:36] against Women and Girls.

[46:37] (rires)

[46:39] >> I strongly propose.

[46:41] >> I second, rather, sorry.

[46:44] >> Invite. - Demande à la Ville

[46:50] de Montréal pour le maintien de

[46:51] la fluoration de l'eau potable.

[46:52] - Oui, je vais lire la

[46:56] résolution sur laquelle nous

[46:57] allons voter ce soir. C'est

[46:59] suite à une demande un peu

[47:03] surprenante qu'on a eu pour les

[47:07] villes qui ont la fluoration

[47:11] présentement. Kirk longue, des

[47:17] deux filles, c'est Beaconsfield,

[47:19] Pointe-Claire et Dorval et... la

[47:20] résolution que nous allons

[47:21] proposer ce soir, et qui sera

[47:22] votée par le Conseil demande à

[47:23] la Ville de Montréal pour le

[47:24] maintien de la fluoration de

[47:25] l'eau potable. And part of

[47:26] Dollard-des-Ormeaux as well. And

[47:27] surprisingly, the City of

[47:30] Montréal came to, we made a

[47:35] presentation to the --

[47:38] municipality saying that for all

[47:40] kinds of reasons that they

[47:41] wanted to abandon the

[47:44] fluoridation of water in the

[47:47] cities where we have it at the

[47:50] same time. And it's, as you can

[47:55] see in the resolution, it's one

[47:58] thing that we have very little

[48:00] power on because at the

[48:04] agglomeration, Montréal has 87%

[48:07] of the votes and we have 13%.

[48:09] So, they can do whatever they

[48:11] want. So,

[48:27] >> Whereas the drinking water

[48:29] consumed of the population of

[48:30] Beaconsfield is produced at the

[48:32] Pointe-Claire filtration plant,

[48:34] whereas scientific studies on

[48:35] the public health benefits of

[48:36] fluoridation are in drinking

[48:37] water are widely recognized,

[48:38] whereas the City of Montréal's

[48:39] decision makers and elected

[48:40] officials have no territorial

[48:41] representation within the city

[48:42] of Beaconsfield and the towns

[48:43] served by the Pointe-Claire and

[48:44] Dorval plants, whereas the City

[48:45] of Montréal plans, without any

[48:46] prior public consultation, to

[48:47] and water fluoridation by the

[48:48] end of 2024, this decision was

[48:49] taken unilaterally without

[48:50] consulting the effected

[48:51] reconstituted cities. Attendu

[48:52] que l'eau potable produite par

[48:53] les usines de filtration de

[48:54] Pointe-Claire et Dorval est

[48:55] fluorée depuis de nombreuses

[48:56] décennies.

[48:57] Attendu que la fluoration de

[48:58] l'eau potable est une mesure

[48:59] recommandée par la direction

[49:00] générale de la santé publique

[49:02] car elle contribue à la santé

[49:05] bucco-dentaire de la population

[49:07] et réduit les inégalités

[49:09] sociales en matière de santé.

[49:30] Attendu que les décideurs de la

[49:31] Ville de Montréal et ses élus

[49:33] n'ont aucune représentation

[49:36] citoyenne par voie électorale à

[49:38] la Ville de Beaconsfield.

[50:02] Attendu que la décision de

[50:04] cesser la flot ration de l'eau

[50:06] potable sont en consultation

[50:09] citoyenne, ni consultation

[50:10] auprès des élus de la Ville de

[50:12] Beaconsfield, est un constat

[50:15] d'échec démocratique et du

[50:17] fonctionnement des instances

[50:19] municipales et un manque de

[50:21] respect envers la population.

[50:26] Whereas the city of Beaconsfield

[50:27] has never expressed a desire to

[50:29] stop fluoridating its drinking

[50:32] water

[50:36] Il est proposé d'exprimer le

[50:40] soutien au maintien de la

[50:42] fluoration de l'eau potable et

[50:43] de demander à la Ville de

[50:44] Montréal de réviser sa décision

[50:47] de cesser la fluoration de l'eau

[50:52] potable. La copie de cette

[50:53] résolution-là sera envoyée à

[50:55] tous les gens

[51:01] de cette décision-là. Est-ce

[51:04] qu'on a quelqu'un qui propose?

[51:06] - Je propose fortement.

[51:08] - Je seconde.

[51:10] - En faveur? Contre? Est-ce

[51:16] qu'il y a des commentaires,

[51:22] de... que les conseillers

[51:23] veulent faire?

[51:24] (inaudible)

[51:27] - Le micro.

[51:30] - Pardon?

[51:32] - Je vais répéter parce que mon

[51:34] micro était pas allumée alors

[51:36] qu'il y a des conseillers et

[51:37] conseillères qui veulent

[51:38] s'exprimer pour les motifs pour

[51:39] lesquels ils sont en soutien, je

[51:41] suis prêt à les écouter je

[51:42] pourrais faire mes commentaires

[51:43] par la suite.

[51:46] - Je présume que monsieur

[51:49] Mercury aimerait... monsieur

[51:50] Mercuri, pardon. >> I take a

[51:51] little exception on how that was

[51:52] very. I think the mayor asked us

[51:57] if we wanted to talk but I'm

[51:58] glad you are willing to listen.

[52:00] It's kind.

[52:04] >> We had no prior debate, so

[52:06] it's good to -- those in favour,

[52:10] those against, if you have

[52:11] comments, go ahead. Otherwise,

[52:12] I'm going to go.

[52:13] >> Go ahead.

[52:14] >> Do you have comments?

[52:15] >> Well, you voted against,

[52:17] Martin.

[52:18] >> You voted in favour, Robert.

[52:19] >> You want me to go first, is

[52:20] that it? Okay.

[52:22] >> That's usually how it goes.

[52:23] >> Okay, so Martin and I have

[52:25] spoken in advance one-on-one. We

[52:27] didn't have a chance to debate

[52:28] this in any formal setting. This

[52:36] is a topic that comes up every

[52:38] so often. Is it safe or not put

[52:43] fluoride in water? None of us

[52:49] here are water experts. None of

[52:51] us are scientists, although I am

[52:53] actually, believe it or not, a

[52:55] degree in biochemistry. But

[52:59] there are two things that play.

[53:01] There is the safety of what's

[53:04] being done that the officials

[53:08] from Montréal are claiming as

[53:10] potentially unsafe, and then

[53:12] there is the process by which

[53:14] this is being done. That is, a

[53:18] separate topic, right? Je

[53:22] m'excuse si je m'exprime en

[53:24] anglais, je peux le faire en

[53:25] français, les deux, comme le

[53:26] monde préfère. Du côté disons,

[53:31] sciences, du côté sécuritaire,

[53:33] c'est pas ma décision. On

[53:35] s'entend. C'est pas à moi de

[53:37] décider. If fluoride in the

[53:39] water is safe. Je me fie à ce

[53:42] que les experts nous disent. I

[53:46] looked it up. Our minister of

[53:48] health, Health Canada, -- so,

[53:57] public health of Québec. They

[53:59] all have positions that they're

[54:02] not concerned about the safety

[54:06] profile, they recognize

[54:09] efficacy, so keeping your teeth

[54:11] healthy, right? That's why. And

[54:15] their position is that putting

[54:17] fluoride in water is an

[54:20] inexpensive means of protecting

[54:23] the populations dental health,

[54:27] whether you're young, old, rich,

[54:31] poor. Je peux prendre un verre

[54:33] d'eau. C'est légal pour tout le

[54:35] monde. Là-dessus, c'est pas à

[54:36] moi les poser des questions, on

[54:38] s'entend. If they were to change

[54:41] their position. I would probably

[54:43] change my position.

[54:49] The other question is the

[54:51] process. Montréal controls the

[54:54] water plants. And as the Mayor

[54:57] has expressed, when it comes

[54:58] time to vote a,

[55:12] how many times do we talk about

[55:13] that at Council meetings? On est

[55:14] contre quelle affaire... et des

[55:16] fois, tu dis, écoutez, peut-être

[55:17] qu'il a raison. Ultimately, they

[55:18] decide. But here is an instance

[55:21] where it's the West Island

[55:23] population that's affected. Good

[55:26] or bad. Why are we not coming to

[55:31] the Beaconsfield's, the

[55:33] Pointe-Claire's, the Kirkland's,

[55:35] the Bader phase of this world to

[55:38] decide on behalf of our

[55:39] population?

[55:47] Au-delà de ça ça arrive,? Than

[55:50] politics. Maybe it's too

[55:51] expensive to do the right thing.

[55:56] Ça coûte trop cher. Des fois, on

[55:57] a des bonnes idées mais on n'a

[55:58] pas l'argent pour. C'est

[55:59] correct, c'est la réalité. Mais

[56:05] l'infrastructure déjà. In our

[56:06] water plants -- it's already

[56:07] there. So, it's all we have to

[56:08] go buy 1 million dollars worth

[56:09] of equipment. C'est pas ça. The

[56:13] cost to put fluoride in water,

[56:15] it's built into the budget and

[56:18] even to their comments from

[56:20] Montréal, that's not really the

[56:22] big expense. I take a little bit

[56:25] of a tongue-in-cheek approach

[56:26] when they say, well, C'est

[56:30] dangereux pour les employés de

[56:31] la Ville de gérer ces produits

[56:33] chimiques là. Hey, let's welcome

[56:37] down, here these are

[56:39] professionals. I worked in

[56:41] chemistry labs with much more

[56:42] dangerous chemicals than

[56:44] fluoride. I trust that they have

[56:45] safety measures in place and I'm

[56:48] unaware of workplace accidents

[56:52] happening at our water

[56:54] filtration plants. So I take a

[56:56] little exception at that. I also

[56:59] take a little exception, the

[57:04] borough mayor who is responsible

[57:05] for water, she's quoted in the

[57:08] Gazette as saying, you know, we

[57:10] don't want to use water as a

[57:12] vehicle for mitigation. We don't

[57:15] want to use water as a vehicle

[57:17] for pharmaceuticals. Okay,

[57:19] that's fine. Now the water that

[57:25] comes out of the lake is

[57:27] filtered, it goes through an eye

[57:30] on is a shun process to kill

[57:32] bacteria. I may or may not be

[57:34] treated with UV, chloride,

[57:36] sometimes iodine, there's other

[57:37] things to do to treat the water.

[57:39] But we're taking exception at

[57:43] fluoride. Anybody is welcome to

[57:44] drink the water straight out of

[57:46] the lake if you wish, I prefer

[57:48] my water to be treated when I

[57:52] J'ouvre le robinet chez moi. And

[57:56] there's also a notion of is this

[57:59] health measure paternalistic? Is

[58:02] this oppressive? Well, is it? I

[58:05] don't know. That's the pure

[58:08] nature of public health.

[58:10] Quelqu'un va prendre une

[58:11] décision pour le bien-être de

[58:12] tout le monde c'est ça l'idée!

[58:18] Friends, that's why we wear

[58:19] seatbelts in our car. It's not

[58:20] really an option, right?

[58:22] Somebody said put on your

[58:24] seatbelt because it's safer

[58:25] there is vitamin D in milk

[58:26] added. Si tu veux, tu veux pas.

[58:33] Why? We live in Canada, guys, we

[58:36] don't get enough sunlight. They

[58:38] put vitamin D so we uptake

[58:40] calcium better. These are all

[58:42] decisions made by a group of

[58:44] people who study this and say

[58:45] this is for public health, and

[58:47] we are all going to have,

[58:49] ideally, healthier lives and

[58:50] live longer. So when I read this

[58:53] in the news I'm saying, well,

[58:55] what's going on here? Why is

[58:58] this decision coming from

[58:59] Montréal to remove something

[59:01] that we already have, they're

[59:03] fine with it. Qui existent déjà,

[59:04] déjà payé pour, il n'est pas

[59:07] obligé, et ça affecte pas

[59:08] Montréal. Ça nous affecte et on

[59:09] n'est pas consulté. Et tous les

[59:12] experts à qui on se fie dix

[59:17] merci beaucoup.

[59:18] So I'm really stuck with why

[59:19] this would come up, and it would

[59:21] be great to have a clear answer

[59:22] for Montréal, Mister Mayor, as

[59:24] to why this coming up.

[59:25] >> Well, I will certainly

[59:27] express our resolution at the

[59:30] next meeting, agglomeration

[59:33] meeting. It has not been tabled

[59:36] yet on the agenda of the

[59:38] agglomeration meeting, but I

[59:42] certainly will express it that

[59:45] so that whenever it does come,

[59:47] up they certainly will be aware

[59:49] of are --

[59:51] >> And Mister Mayor --

[59:53] >> And we are going to send the

[59:58] resolution to Dr. Boileau, the

[1:00:02] National Public Health director,

[1:00:04] Dr. Mylène Drouin, public health

[1:00:07] director for the Montréal

[1:00:10] region, and Christian Dubé,

[1:00:12] minister of health but, so the

[1:00:16] people that are responsible for

[1:00:17] health and Québec certainly will

[1:00:19] be very much aware of our

[1:00:21] position.

[1:00:22] >> Thank you, and Mister Mayor,

[1:00:23] thank you very much. And I guess

[1:00:25] one more request, why are they

[1:00:29] not affording us -- with their

[1:00:33] help, with their collaboration,

[1:00:34] the time, but if a consultation

[1:00:38] is needed with the population,

[1:00:40] why is a not affording us the

[1:00:41] time to do that?

[1:00:42] >> That's a good question. I

[1:00:45] can't answer that. Hopefully,

[1:00:47] they can give us an answer, but

[1:00:51] it's -- I believe it's the

[1:00:55] borough mayor, the borough mayor

[1:00:57] from Lachine is responsible for

[1:01:01] water, and I think it's for her,

[1:01:05] it's a political reason to do

[1:01:08] this, so I -- but this is not a

[1:01:12] political situation, it's not a

[1:01:15] political region, it's a health

[1:01:17] reason. It should be considered

[1:01:18] a health reason. So --

[1:01:21] >> Thank you for the time. But

[1:01:25] >> I think there is either

[1:01:26] somebody else who voted in

[1:01:28] favour, that's but -- wants to

[1:01:31] comment.

[1:01:32] >> Certainly. Thank you, Mister

[1:01:33] Mayor. I think, first of all,

[1:01:35] I'm not a dentist but at the

[1:01:37] same time I think I am a parent,

[1:01:40] and I think I've done a lot of

[1:01:42] research on fluoride. It's

[1:01:44] something we've heard from the

[1:01:45] odd person overtime, why do we

[1:01:48] fluoridating Beaconsfield. I

[1:01:50] think that everything can one

[1:01:51] can read on fluoridation's it is

[1:01:53] safe, healthy, it's not

[1:01:58] dangerous to our health. I've

[1:01:59] been drinking city water for a

[1:02:01] long, long time. So I just don't

[1:02:04] understand where they're coming

[1:02:05] from. At least in terms of why

[1:02:08] they're taking something that's

[1:02:11] been so important to our

[1:02:13] children's lives and oral health

[1:02:17] and even to our own in terms of

[1:02:20] ensuring that we don't have

[1:02:22] cavities. And the fact of the

[1:02:23] matter is is if we look at

[1:02:25] research, you know, either the

[1:02:29] Québec or Canada dentists

[1:02:32] association, as well as the

[1:02:33] United States dental

[1:02:35] association, you know,

[1:02:36] definitely recommend fluoride in

[1:02:38] water. There is just nothing

[1:02:40] scientific that up until now

[1:02:42] that indicates fluoride is -- in

[1:02:46] the water is bad. In fact, I

[1:02:47] think there's only about --

[1:02:49] whatever the number is, but it's

[1:02:52] like but 0.17 or 1.7 parts per

[1:02:56] million or whatever it is. So

[1:02:58] that is a safe number. I think

[1:03:00] the biggest thing as well is

[1:03:02] when we look at the children of

[1:03:06] Beaconsfield who've lived here

[1:03:07] for the last 40, 50 years that

[1:03:10] the water has been fluoridated,

[1:03:12] most children grow up without a

[1:03:14] cavity. I think we were --

[1:03:17] talking about our kids. Anyways

[1:03:19] and still been parents -- and

[1:03:22] now parents, and have not a

[1:03:25] caveat, I think that's the

[1:03:28] important's of fluoride in the

[1:03:29] water of children who are in

[1:03:30] their development years. At the

[1:03:32] same time, there is an

[1:03:34] interesting study that I read

[1:03:36] just in the past few weeks at

[1:03:38] the city of Calgary but it is

[1:03:43] returning to add I -- adding

[1:03:45] fluoride to the water. They

[1:03:47] originally brought it into the

[1:03:48] cities in let's say, the 1990s

[1:03:50] or the EVs, and 2011 they

[1:03:52] decided to discontinue fluoride.

[1:03:55] When other cities, bigger cities

[1:03:56] in Alberta continue to

[1:03:58] fluoridated water. Now, as of

[1:04:02] 2022 and I think at this point

[1:04:04] in time now, because of the

[1:04:07] decision to return to water, I

[1:04:10] think those water plants have

[1:04:11] now been completed and should be

[1:04:14] up and running, and if not later

[1:04:16] this year, and early next year.

[1:04:19] So Calgary is returning to

[1:04:20] fluoridated water. And within

[1:04:22] that article that I read, there

[1:04:24] is actually a very interesting

[1:04:27] research report that came from

[1:04:28] the University of Alberta, where

[1:04:30] they had research -- because

[1:04:31] this was a perfect test, you

[1:04:33] know, to be able to look at

[1:04:36] residents in several major

[1:04:37] cities of Alberta compared to

[1:04:39] Alberta, or Calgary, and what

[1:04:41] were the effects on the children

[1:04:42] during that tenure period that

[1:04:45] Calgary has been not

[1:04:47] fluoridating it's water. And

[1:04:49] what they found was really very

[1:04:52] tragic. Many children are

[1:04:53] getting cavities. That's

[1:04:56] painful. They have to have

[1:04:57] injections if -- for cavities.

[1:04:59] In some cases, it's bad enough,

[1:05:01] you have rotten teeth, and at

[1:05:02] that, point teeth have to be

[1:05:04] pulled. So it's very unfair to

[1:05:07] -- our cause them a lot of pain

[1:05:09] and I think Calgary is certainly

[1:05:11] doing the right thing to return

[1:05:13] to fluoridation. And I think of

[1:05:16] anything, it's very unfair for

[1:05:17] what Montréal is doing here. I

[1:05:19] think from what I've read, they

[1:05:20] were saying they had a choice in

[1:05:22] Montréal, which was to either

[1:05:25] cancel fluoridation in the West

[1:05:27] Island or Pointe-Claire Dorval

[1:05:29] plants, or add it to the rest of

[1:05:32] Montréal. And I really think

[1:05:34] that I don't understand why

[1:05:35] they're not looking at the care

[1:05:37] of their own residents, because

[1:05:40] fluoridation is important for

[1:05:43] children. And basically, you

[1:05:46] know, invite them to take a look

[1:05:48] at kids mouth, come to the West

[1:05:51] Island, look at where we've got

[1:05:53] fluoridated water and have them

[1:05:54] compare with children living in

[1:05:55] Montréal in certain parts where

[1:05:56] parents can't necessarily afford

[1:06:01] proper oral health care. I think

[1:06:04] that would be the big

[1:06:06] determining factor. So it's very

[1:06:08] unfair and it has to be politics

[1:06:10] and money, because it means a

[1:06:12] major expense, whatever that

[1:06:13] would be, to add fluoridation to

[1:06:16] the Montréal water treatments.

[1:06:20] Thank, you Mister Mayor.

[1:06:21] >> Thank, you Roger. Any other

[1:06:23] from the yes side want to

[1:06:27] comment?

[1:06:28] >> I will just add, maybe

[1:06:30] summarizing because everything

[1:06:31] that was said, I fully agree

[1:06:32] with in terms of -- frankly, it

[1:06:34] just comes down to 3.3 in my

[1:06:37] mind. I know, Councillor mercury

[1:06:39] went into it in more details,

[1:06:40] but it's a public health

[1:06:41] situation whereby we've got

[1:06:43] national and provincial

[1:06:45] organization supporting this,

[1:06:47] basically unilaterally. So --

[1:06:50] experts that have studied this

[1:06:51] for -- this is not a new

[1:06:52] concept, people, this has been

[1:06:54] out for decades and in our water

[1:06:56] here for decades as well. So the

[1:07:00] histories there, the data's been

[1:07:02] proven, and it's costly being

[1:07:03] looked at and so on. So seems to

[1:07:04] be well supported over all. Key

[1:07:06] point to is the infrastructure,

[1:07:08] more on the operational side of,

[1:07:09] this exist in Pointe-Claire,

[1:07:11] it's working, there's nothing

[1:07:12] wrong with it. They're not a

[1:07:13] pivot point to make heavy

[1:07:15] investments and operations. It's

[1:07:17] still operating and it's still

[1:07:18] working. So I want to dismantle

[1:07:19] something that's working? And

[1:07:20] again, Montréal seems to be

[1:07:22] ignoring these facts and it's

[1:07:24] disappointing that, as you

[1:07:25] mentioned before, that this is

[1:07:26] their behaviour and the way of

[1:07:28] choosing to work, so we

[1:07:29] certainly want to make our

[1:07:32] voices clear. Both sides I

[1:07:33] understand here, but I

[1:07:36] appreciate the time to reiterate

[1:07:37] these points, but I definitely

[1:07:38] want to make that clear to

[1:07:40] Montréal. George, I will carry

[1:07:42] that torch when I go back, along

[1:07:44] with other communities this

[1:07:45] water is serving. So I think

[1:07:46] it's an important issue, not

[1:07:47] just for the children as well,

[1:07:48] for their whole community I

[1:07:50] think has something to gain by

[1:07:52] this. So I'm fully supporting

[1:07:53] this, 110%. And hopefully that

[1:07:56] our voice will add up with many

[1:07:58] others who speak about this in

[1:07:59] the coming weeks to come.

[1:08:03] >> Dominique, any comments?

[1:08:06] >> I think my colleagues have

[1:08:07] said it all. Thank you very

[1:08:10] much. But

[1:08:12] >> Now, the floor is yours,

[1:08:15] Martin. No? But No, no, it's not

[1:08:23] question period now.

[1:08:24] >> I know, but I just want to

[1:08:25] say -- that

[1:08:27] >> No, I'm sorry.

[1:08:29] >> I tried to mention, people

[1:08:30] are not choosing to put fluoride

[1:08:32] in water --

[1:08:33] >> I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but

[1:08:35] there are no comments.

[1:08:36] >> All right, I don't really

[1:08:37] want fluoride in the water. -- I

[1:08:40] eat organic.

[1:08:42] >> Would you talk to her?

[1:08:45] [Inaudible]

[1:08:46] I don't -- I agree with the City

[1:08:49] of Montréal would not putting

[1:08:50] fluoride in water.

[1:08:52] >> No, please. This is not the

[1:08:55] time. Sorry.

[1:08:57] >> Fluoride actually --

[1:08:58] >> Sorry.

[1:09:00] >> Fluoride is used as a

[1:09:01] pesticide to kill --

[1:09:03] >> Sorry.

[1:09:05] >> It is an actual toxin and

[1:09:07] it's that --

[1:09:08] >> He's going to --

[1:09:09] >> I have it in my toothpaste,

[1:09:11] but I don't want to swallow it.

[1:09:14] So to be forcing it in

[1:09:15] everybody's water is not fair.

[1:09:16] It's like for some people to

[1:09:18] take vaccines. People have a

[1:09:20] right to take those.

[1:09:25] >> Would you comment, --

[1:09:29] [Laughter]

[1:09:30] Yeah, I think so.

[1:09:34] >> I think it should be --

[1:09:40] [Inaudible]

[1:09:41] For us this down people's

[1:09:43] throats -- so what, people don't

[1:09:46] have --

[1:09:47] >> Nicole, the question period

[1:09:48] is over, okay? The next time,

[1:09:51] you have to organize it ahead of

[1:09:53] time. We'd like for Houston City

[1:10:07] -- we invite you to stay, but

[1:10:08] you can't stop talking, you have

[1:10:09] to leave.

[1:10:15] >> Hold for the -- it's your

[1:10:17] turn. - Merci. Merci, Dominic.

[1:10:23] Dans un premier temps, je veux

[1:10:24] être très clair. Je suis pas

[1:10:26] régulière... je bois

[1:10:28] régulièrement l'eau du robinet.

[1:10:29] En fait, à la maison, je suis le

[1:10:30] seul qui le fait parce que c'est

[1:10:32] l'autre qui nous est fournie et

[1:10:33] elle est bonne. J'ai aucune

[1:10:35] crainte. No worry whatsoever

[1:10:41] whatsoever regarding the

[1:10:42] fluoride in the water or the

[1:10:44] potential for nefarious effects

[1:10:47] that could have. That's not

[1:10:49] where I'm at. I heard my

[1:10:53] colleagues, in for the most

[1:10:54] part, I agree with a lot of the

[1:10:55] things they said. I don't like

[1:10:58] the way Montréal conducted

[1:10:59] itself in this file. I think

[1:11:02] it's not condoning, it's just to

[1:11:05] be clear.

[1:11:06] Condamnable. >> Condescending.

[1:11:10] >> Condescending it's wrong, you

[1:11:15] know. And having said that,

[1:11:17] however, I still think that we

[1:11:20] are taxpayers, we pay taxes. And

[1:11:25] we have a duty to make sure that

[1:11:26] the taxes are used properly,

[1:11:28] whether it be here in

[1:11:30] Beaconsfield or those we paid

[1:11:31] through our taxes that end up

[1:11:34] being used by Montréal. So the

[1:11:38] main reasons why I voted against

[1:11:41] a resolution is because I don't

[1:11:43] think that -- we are the ones

[1:11:47] that should be paying for it.

[1:11:49] And I will get to that in a

[1:11:51] moment. So Florida's Asian in

[1:11:54] Canada is widely divergent from

[1:11:57] one province to another. Ontario

[1:11:59] is up to 72% of its water

[1:12:02] systems being -- adding fluoride

[1:12:06] and being made available to its

[1:12:09] residents. In Québec, we're at

[1:12:10] the other end of the spectrum,

[1:12:12] at 1%. About 80,000, 80 to

[1:12:15] 90,000 people get fluoride in

[1:12:17] their water, and it's us here in

[1:12:19] the West Island. Where the only

[1:12:21] ones in the province. But so my

[1:12:25] take on, this we're talk about

[1:12:26] public health, and I think it's

[1:12:27] important that we keep focused

[1:12:29] on that, my take on this is that

[1:12:31] if it's really a public health

[1:12:34] issue, it's a provincial issue,

[1:12:36] it's up to the Québec government

[1:12:38] to take the appropriate measures

[1:12:40] and pay for the infrastructure

[1:12:45] and the service of fluoride. And

[1:12:47] in fact, it's a very similar

[1:12:49] position that we've taken with

[1:12:50] the sound wall here in

[1:12:52] Beaconsfield. When Dr. Kaiser

[1:12:54] mentioned that it was a public

[1:12:56] health issue, we said, you know

[1:12:58] what, if it's a public health

[1:12:59] issue, Québec should take care

[1:13:00] of it. So I don't understand why

[1:13:05] locally we should be paying

[1:13:08] taxes for something that is, in

[1:13:10] my opinion, Québec -- like the

[1:13:13] Québec government's

[1:13:14] responsibility. And also for a

[1:13:17] service that is perhaps not as

[1:13:20] needed today as it was 20, 30,

[1:13:23] 40 years ago, it was dental

[1:13:27] services for children are now

[1:13:28] readily available and paid by

[1:13:29] that ramp Q, which is not the

[1:13:30] case 30, 40, or maybe 50 years

[1:13:31] ago. On met du fluor dans notre

[1:13:32] eau. On tire la chasse des

[1:13:33] toilettes, il y a personne qui

[1:13:34] en bénéficie. On arrose nos

[1:13:36] pelouses, on remplit nos

[1:13:37] piscines, on lave les voitures,

[1:13:40] etc., etc.. Il y a peut-être

[1:13:45] dix, 15, 20% de l'eau que nous

[1:13:49] consommons qui finit

[1:13:51] effectivement par être un

[1:13:53] service public dirigé

[1:13:58] bucco-dentaires. Alors je pense

[1:14:00] que quand on regarde ça, il faut

[1:14:03] aussi garder en tête que

[1:14:19] merci.

[1:14:20] -- And so, we are also -- doctor

[1:14:26] Joe Schwartz, if we want to talk

[1:14:28] about doctors and their take on,

[1:14:29] it the relative service that

[1:14:33] fluoride in the water

[1:14:35] represents, doctor Schwartz is

[1:14:36] the director of McGill

[1:14:39] university's office for science

[1:14:41] in society, and he was quoted as

[1:14:42] saying the need for fluoride in

[1:14:44] certain areas, I think, is no

[1:14:46] longer there. He's speaking from

[1:14:49] a Québec standpoint if he's

[1:14:51] saying that -- I'd like to think

[1:14:53] when it comes to different

[1:14:56] income strata, but -- it's

[1:15:02] perhaps not in the socioeconomic

[1:15:04] typical area where health care

[1:15:08] is suffering. I'm not saying

[1:15:10] that there are people suffering.

[1:15:11] I don't want to be misquoted on

[1:15:13] that, but everything is

[1:15:15] relative. And it also says, Dr.

[1:15:18] Shorts, that as long as kids

[1:15:22] bossed -- brush their teeth with

[1:15:25] fluoridated toothpaste station

[1:15:27] miss out on the benefit of the

[1:15:29] mineral or wants the City of

[1:15:30] Montréal turns off the tap. So I

[1:15:33] really look at it as being a

[1:15:37] huge waste of money. It's a

[1:15:40] small amount, but it's

[1:15:41] nonetheless a huge waste of

[1:15:44] money. And therefore in the

[1:15:46] absence of consultation with the

[1:15:47] public, I go with what I feel is

[1:15:49] right. And I'm not saying that

[1:15:50] my colleagues are wrong. There

[1:15:52] we go. - Oui. Juste une couple

[1:15:56] de commentaires sur ce que vous

[1:15:58] avez dit, monsieur. Moi, je suis

[1:16:04] pas certain que même si le

[1:16:07] dentiste, c'est gratuit et tout

[1:16:10] ça pour mes enfants, je suis pas

[1:16:11] certain que je veux que les

[1:16:13] enfants aient des dehors...

[1:16:21] dedans avec des carrés. Je ne

[1:16:23] suis pas certain que je voudrais

[1:16:26] ça. Moi, j'ai aidé... élevé deux

[1:16:30] enfants à Kirkland piqueurs

[1:16:32] Field et ils ont quand même un

[1:16:34] certain âge aujourd'hui. Ils ont

[1:16:36] jamais eu de problème avec leur

[1:16:39] dans. Et le coup, il faut faire

[1:16:46] attention, parce que

[1:16:47] l'équipement qui est en place,

[1:16:49] ça fait des années qu'il est en

[1:16:51] place et cet équipement-là

[1:16:54] fonctionne très bien

[1:16:57] présentement. Il y a pas de

[1:16:58] coûts additionnels pour la

[1:17:02] maintenir comme elle est

[1:17:03] présentement. D'ailleurs, à un

[1:17:07] moment donné, Montréal avait

[1:17:09] dit, on va regarder la

[1:17:13] fluoration dans l'ouest de l'île

[1:17:16] jusqu'à ce qu'on soit obligé de

[1:17:19] changer l'équipement. Et à ce

[1:17:21] moment-là, on pourra prendre une

[1:17:23] décision peut-être de l'éliminer

[1:17:25] tout simplement. Alors

[1:17:27] l'équipement fonctionne bien.

[1:17:31] D'enlever la fluoration dans

[1:17:33] l'ouest de l'île, ça va coûter

[1:17:37] beaucoup plus d'argent que la

[1:17:40] maintenir aujourd'hui. Donc

[1:17:41] c'est pas une question de coûts.

[1:17:43] C'est une question de...

[1:17:46] beaucoup plus politique.

[1:17:52] >> No, no, no. Non, non, non!

[1:17:54] Kevin, please --

[1:17:56] >> My sister just -- but

[1:18:01] [Inaudible]

[1:18:04] Because --

[1:18:09] [Inaudible]

[1:18:10] On continue la réunion.

[1:18:17] >> Deposit or the director's

[1:18:19] report.

[1:18:20] - Oui, Monsieur le Maire. La

[1:18:21] plupart des directeurs, les

[1:18:26] rapports des directeurs. On a

[1:18:28] reçu de la partie municipale du

[1:18:30] visionnement du conseil. J'en ai

[1:18:31] un autre qui a été déposé aussi,

[1:18:34] le rapport des permis du mois de

[1:18:37] septembre. Je peux vous dire, on

[1:18:39] s'active beaucoup présentement à

[1:18:41] préparer l'hiver et notre

[1:18:43] Service des loisirs a préparait

[1:18:45] déjà les activités hivernales.

[1:18:54] - Alors, on est rendu à la ferme

[1:18:57] nouvelle?

[1:18:58] - Il y en a pas, je crois. Donc

[1:18:59] la levée de la séance?

[1:19:01] - Je propose.

[1:19:03] >> I second. - Alors, tout le

[1:19:05] monde en faveur de terminer la

[1:19:09] séance? Merci beaucoup. Thank

[1:19:12] you very much for being here in

[1:19:17] the council chamber and also to

[1:19:21] those that are watching us on

[1:19:23] the webcast. Thank you very much

[1:19:26] for the interest that you are

[1:19:28] showing in your city. Merci

[1:19:31] beaucoup d'avoir beaucoup

[1:19:32] d'intérêt et on se reverra le

[1:19:33] mois prochain. But -- off until

[1:19:40] next month, I see some regular

[1:19:42] people that come to every

[1:19:45] meeting. I hope to see you again

[1:19:47] next month. Thank you very much.

2024-10-21 - Conseil municipal de Beaconsfield

Transcript