[0:38] - Chers citoyennes et chers

[0:40] citoyens, bienvenue à cette

[0:42] séance ordinaire du conseil

[0:43] municipal du 4 octobre 2022.

[0:58] Depuis que j'ai été élu, j'ai

[1:00] essayé d'être plus ouvert dans

[1:02] la gestion des réunions du

[1:05] conseil et après la réunion du

[1:07] mois dernier, je tiens à

[1:09] préciser que certains

[1:12] comportements perturbateur ne

[1:13] seront plus tolérés. Les

[1:19] intervenants seront autorisés à

[1:21] montrer au micro qu'une seule

[1:22] fois pour poser leurs questions

[1:24] et non plusieurs fois au cours

[1:26] de la même réunion. Je me

[1:30] réserverai le droit de demander

[1:33] aux intervenants au micro qui

[1:36] utilise à plusieurs reprises une

[1:39] langue irrespectueuse de

[1:41] s'asseoir et de me permettre de

[1:43] prendre la question de la

[1:44] personne suivante dans la file.

[1:47] Si elle refuse, je demanderai

[1:50] à... la Sécurité publique de les

[1:52] faire sortir de la salle du

[1:53] conseil. Si les questions et les

[1:57] interventions au micro... seules

[2:00] ces questions seront autorisés.

[2:02] Lors de notre dernière réunion,

[2:04] la vice-présidence, Raymond

[2:06] Paré, à crier à plusieurs

[2:09] reprises on vers la conseillère

[2:13] Erin Tedford afin de l'empêcher

[2:14] et de terminer un discours

[2:17] concernant son projet de

[2:18] (inaudible)

[2:19] . Son projet a été approuvé par

[2:22] le conseil et il a tout de même

[2:25] attendu à l'extérieur pour

[2:27] continuer de la réprimander dans

[2:30] le stationnement alors qu'elle

[2:31] montait dans sa voiture. Bien

[2:35] qu'on lui ait demandé à

[2:36] plusieurs reprises de partir, il

[2:39] a refusé de le faire, même après

[2:41] que la sécurité publique ait été

[2:45] appelé à intervenir.

[2:48] Permettez-moi d'être très

[2:49] claire: il y aura une tolérance

[2:52] 0 pour ce type d'interruption à

[2:56] l'avenir. Nous avons vu trop

[2:58] d'exemples au cours des derniers

[3:00] mois d'intimidation et de

[3:02] harcèlement des élus qui tentent

[3:05] de faire leur travail. Peu

[3:08] importe qui vous êtes ou quelle

[3:10] influence vous avez, si vous

[3:13] n'êtes pas prêt à faire preuve

[3:15] d'un minimum de respect pour

[3:17] notre décorum et notre débat

[3:18] démocratique, je ferai sortir de

[3:21] la salle du conseil et

[3:23] j'exigerais que vous quittiez

[3:24] les locaux de l'hôtel de ville

[3:25] immédiatement.

[5:00] Bon! Avant de continuer la

[5:02] séance du conseil municipal,

[5:05] permettez-moi de faire une mise

[5:06] à jour concernant les travaux

[5:10] d'infrastructure municipales qui

[5:11] étaient prévues dans le village

[5:12] de Pointe-Claire en 2023 ainsi

[5:15] que l'entente entre la Ville de

[5:19] Pointe-Claire et le club de golf

[5:21] et, finalement, le prix reçu de

[5:24] l'Association Canadienne des

[5:25] Travaux publics pour les

[5:26] activités de la Journée des

[5:27] Travaux publics. Tout d'abord,

[5:31] je vous annonce le report des

[5:32] travaux d'infrastructures

[5:37] municipales prévus l'an prochain

[5:38] dans le village de

[5:39] Pointe-Claire, entre les avenues

[5:40] Victoria et du Golf, en 2024 et

[5:44] 2025. À la suite des rencontres

[5:48] consultatives qui ont eu lieu à

[5:49] la mi-juin, en personne, en

[5:52] webinaire et en ligne sur la

[5:54] plateforme de consultation

[5:55] citoyenne, nos équipes

[5:57] souhaitent tenir une deuxième

[6:00] série de rencontres

[6:01] consultatives à l'hiver prochain

[6:04] afin de poursuivre la discussion

[6:07] sur différents aspects soulevés

[6:09] lors de cette première série de

[6:14] rencontres. Pour le moment,

[6:15] aucune décision n'a été prise

[6:16] sur l'aménagement futur du

[6:19] chemin du Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore,

[6:22] soit une rue à double-sens ou

[6:26] une rue à sens unique. La

[6:28] deuxième série de rencontres

[6:32] consultatives permettra

[6:33] d'apporter des éléments

[6:34] additionnels à cette décision

[6:35] majeure pour notre secteur

[6:41] villageois. Nous sommes

[6:42] conscients que ces travaux

[6:43] auront un impact dans tout le

[6:47] secteur villageois, autant les

[6:48] résidents que les commerçants,

[6:53] ce pourquoi nous poursuivrons

[6:55] les démarches préparatoires au

[6:57] cours de la prochaine année en

[6:59] vue de circonscrire les

[7:03] conséquences. Je vous informe

[7:04] également que nous déposerons ce

[7:05] soir pour adoption l'entente

[7:08] entre la Ville de Pointe-Claire

[7:10] et le Club de golf Beaconsfield

[7:13] pour offrir, à nouveau cet

[7:14] hiver, un tracé de ski de fond

[7:18] et une piste de marche sur le

[7:19] terrain du golf. Cette année, ce

[7:28] ne sera pas l'accord...

[7:29] Before starting the City Council

[7:31] meeting, let us briefly review

[7:33] the following. The municipal

[7:34] infrastructure works or planned

[7:36] for Pointe-Claire village in

[7:37] 2023, as well as the agreement

[7:40] between the city of

[7:41] Pointe-Claire and the

[7:42] Beaconsfield golf club, and

[7:44] finally, the award received from

[7:46] the Canadian association of

[7:47] public works for the activities

[7:48] of the public works today. First

[7:51] of all, I am announcing that

[7:54] municipal infrastructure work

[7:55] planned for next year in

[7:57] Pointe-Claire village between

[7:59] Victoria and golf avenues will

[8:00] be postponed in 2024 and 2025.

[8:05] Following the consultant at the

[8:07] meetings that took place in mid

[8:08] June, in person, via webinar and

[8:11] online, on the citizen

[8:13] consultation platform, our teams

[8:14] would like to have a second

[8:16] series of consultative meetings

[8:18] next winter to continue the

[8:20] discussion on different aspects

[8:22] during this first series of

[8:25] meetings for the moment, no

[8:26] decision has been made on the

[8:28] future development of border

[8:30] lack lakeshore road. As either a

[8:32] two-way street or a one-way

[8:34] street. The second series of

[8:36] consultative meetings will allow

[8:37] us to include additional

[8:39] elements to this major decision

[8:42] for our village sector. We are

[8:45] aware that these works will

[8:47] impact the entire sector, for

[8:49] villagers and merchants, so we

[8:51] will continue the preparatory

[8:52] steps next year to limit the

[8:54] consequences. I would also like

[8:56] to inform you that this evening,

[8:58] we adopt the agreement between

[9:00] the city of Pointe-Claire and

[9:01] the Beaconsfield golf club to

[9:03] provide once again this winter

[9:04] across country ski trail and

[9:06] walking trail through the golf

[9:10] course.

[9:15] - Ce soir, au nom du conseil

[9:17] municipal, je voudrais remettre

[9:18] la plaque de l'Association

[9:20] canadienne des Travaux publics

[9:22] au directeur du service des

[9:24] Travaux publics, monsieur Éric

[9:26] Rolland

[9:27] (applaudissements)

[9:31] Merci. Pour une deuxième année

[9:33] consécutive nous avons remporté

[9:34] ce prix de l'Association

[9:39] Canadienne des Travaux publics

[9:40] pour la créativité des activités

[9:41] déployées dans le cadre de la

[9:42] Journée des Travaux publics qui

[9:44] a eu lieu le 15 mai dernier. Ces

[9:48] prix honorent les efforts pour

[9:50] promouvoir cette journée, l'un

[9:53] des meilleurs moyens de

[9:55] sensibiliser les citoyens à

[9:56] l'importance des travaux publics

[9:57] et aux services qu'ils

[9:59] fournissent à notre communauté.

[10:03] Les 140 employés des travaux

[10:05] publics de Pointe-Claire ont

[10:07] participé à la célébration de la

[10:09] Semaine des travaux publics de

[10:10] la ville. Plusieurs services ont

[10:14] travaillé ensemble pour assurer

[10:15] le succès de l'événement:

[10:19] Travaux publics, Communications,

[10:22] Ressources humaines et Loisirs.

[10:25] L'événement a été un franc

[10:26] succès, apprécié par plus de 650

[10:30] citoyens de tous âges.

[10:33] Félicitations à tous!

[10:38] Tonight, on behalf of the City

[10:39] Council, I am giving the plaque

[10:41] of Canadian Public Works

[10:44] Association to the director of

[10:45] public works department, Eric

[10:47] radon. For a second year in a

[10:49] row, he won an award from the

[10:51] Canadian so CA shun of public

[10:53] works for the creativity of the

[10:55] activities deployed as part of

[10:56] the public works which took

[10:58] place on May 15th. CP W raise

[11:04] awards honour the efforts to

[11:05] promote national public works

[11:07] week. One of the ways to

[11:09] increase public awareness about

[11:11] public works and the services

[11:12] public works provide, provides

[11:14] to our communities. I'm in 40

[11:18] Pointe-Claire Public Works

[11:19] employees were involved in the

[11:21] city celebrations of public

[11:22] works week. Several departments

[11:24] worked together to ensure the

[11:26] success of the event. Public

[11:29] works, communications, human

[11:31] resources, and leisure. The

[11:34] event was a resounding success,

[11:36] enjoyed by over 650 citizens of

[11:38] all ages. Congratulations to

[11:41] everyone. Now we invite Eric and

[11:46] Geneviève

[11:47] - Le discours a été -- écrit

[11:48] avant, je m'his excuse, partner

[11:50] in Geneviève... crime,

[11:52] In operating public works, is

[11:53] with him tonight to join me at

[11:55] the front to receive the plaque

[11:56] and to take photos.

[12:01] [Applause]

[12:40] (applaudissements)

[12:52] >> Question period.

[12:53] - Bon! Pour

[12:57] >> No, la période de no.

[12:59] Questions... je m'excuse.

[13:00] >> Not yet.

[13:01] Une photo? Je m'excuse. Oui, je

[13:02] m'excuse, O.K.!

[13:03] >> And Mister Mayor, before the

[13:04] adoption of the agenda, may I

[13:06] speak? As a city councillor for

[13:09] the city of Pointe-Claire, as

[13:10] well as the president of the

[13:12] Planning Advisory Committee, I

[13:14] feel it is essential that I

[13:15] stated the last Public council

[13:17] meeting, September 6th, 2022,

[13:21] that Councillor Aaron Tedford

[13:23] did not speak with on behalf of

[13:26] Council. They were her personal

[13:28] opinions, and I do not support

[13:29] the comments that she made. My

[13:31] position was duly expressed by

[13:33] my vote on the project. Thank

[13:35] you.

[13:38] >> Anybody else?

[13:41] >> I also agree that the

[13:44] comments made by Councillor

[13:46] Tedford did not reflect my

[13:48] feelings about the project, and

[13:50] my vote in favour of it was

[13:52] made, so I did not agree with

[13:53] what she said.

[13:57] >> Paul?

[13:59] >> At the last council meeting

[14:02] the intervention by Councillor

[14:04] Tedford, she did not speak on

[14:05] behalf of Council regarding via

[14:08] live your project. They were her

[14:11] personal opinions. I do not

[14:12] support the comments that were

[14:13] made. However, I did support the

[14:16] project. Thank you.

[14:21] >> Well, I did not vote in

[14:23] favour of the project my opinion

[14:27] deferred for hers as did my

[14:29] reasons and those were her own

[14:33] personal reasons.

[14:35] >> I actually take a slightly

[14:37] different position with regards

[14:39] to this issue. I commend

[14:44] Councillor Tedford for the work

[14:47] and effort she has put together

[14:48] in terms of reading the

[14:50] information that has been

[14:51] available to her in order to

[14:53] come to a conclusion. In her

[14:58] discussion regarding the

[15:00] project, she attempted to

[15:03] justify her vote and some

[15:08] substance behind the proposals

[15:09] that she made. She was given the

[15:13] information that she received

[15:14] through the city administration.

[15:16] She made her assessment on that

[15:18] basis. In that regard, I think

[15:22] that is commendable.

[15:28] - Les gens de Brigadoon, non,

[15:32] pardon les gens de Sotramont,

[15:33] c'est bel et bien reçu vos

[15:34] commentaires par courriel, je

[15:35] suis en train d'étudier ce que

[15:37] vous proposez, je suis en train

[15:38] de faire mes recherches pour

[15:39] comparer un peu les dossiers.

[15:44] >> Well, I feel compelled to say

[15:46] something. I will just say that

[15:48] I voted, I stand by my vote. I

[15:50] stand by my thinking, that

[15:52] support of that vote and I have

[15:54] no comment on what another

[15:56] Councillor may have said to

[16:00] substantiate their vote.

[16:02] >> One last one?

[16:03] >> Yes, go ahead.

[16:04] >> I concur with my fellow

[16:08] colleagues with Councillor

[16:10] Tedford's opinions were her own.

[16:11] My position was duly expressed

[16:12] by the way I voted. However, I

[16:16] do take wholehearted condone the

[16:20] actions last month. I think we

[16:21] could all do better. Thank you.

[16:25] >> I'd like to start by

[16:27] suggesting that after the vice

[16:29] president's behaviour last

[16:31] month, Sotramont should have

[16:35] written Council with an apology,

[16:36] not a demand for a retraction or

[16:39] sensor of a councillor who was

[16:40] explaining their vote. Their

[16:43] condo project had already been

[16:44] approved by a majority, by the

[16:47] majority counsel, and their

[16:48] demand to us seems to be another

[16:51] attempt to intimidate and

[16:53] silence debate just like the one

[16:55] we all witnessed at our last

[16:59] meeting. Councillor Tedford

[17:01] arrived at her conclusions and

[17:03] decided to vote based on careful

[17:05] research and reading of our

[17:07] bylaws and the documents

[17:09] presented to her by City staff.

[17:12] Due to my understanding she

[17:13] based her vote in opposition to

[17:18] the project, on three key if

[17:22] issues. Electrical car charges.

[17:25] Second, the project did not

[17:27] include first floor commercial

[17:28] place to provide amenities for

[17:33] residents such as a pharmacy or

[17:34] a deep honour. A special

[17:37] planning program for the city

[17:39] center. Finally, she did not

[17:43] want to approve the project in

[17:45] the absence of a final

[17:46] landscaping plan setting out

[17:48] where trees would be planted.

[17:50] This was because of Sotramont's

[17:54] track record of having cut trees

[17:55] on its line in 2014 in a process

[17:58] which began even before they

[17:59] were in granted the construction

[18:02] permit on the 20th. Previous

[18:05] council approved that phase of

[18:06] the project unanimously and did

[18:08] not fine Sotramont for cutting

[18:12] without a permit and presenting

[18:14] our arborist was done deal. I

[18:16] agree with Councillor Tedford's

[18:17] arguments, but even those who

[18:20] don't shouldn't support

[18:22] Sotramont's request it. We'll

[18:23] send a message that we condone

[18:24] the vice presidents unacceptable

[18:26] behaviour last month and that we

[18:27] don't allow the dissenting of

[18:31] opinions that are vital 20

[18:32] democracy. Thank you. Merci.

[18:38] >> The agenda.

[18:44] >> Approve the agenda with the

[18:46] following changes. Withdrawal of

[18:47] 01 - Ordre du jour 01.01

[18:48] Approuver l'ordre du jour

[18:53] l'10:08 and

[18:54] Approbation de l'ordre du jour

[18:55] avec le retrait des points 10.08

[19:03] et 30.01.

[19:04] - O.K..

[19:05] >> Okay. Approve the French and

[19:09] English versions? I

[19:10] >> Need a mover and a seconder.

[19:11] >> Oh, sorry. Do I have a mover?

[19:14] >> I move to approve the agenda.

[19:21] Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, district

[19:22] 3.

[19:23] >> Eric Stork, district 7.

[19:24] >> I like to propose an

[19:26] amendment to the agenda.

[19:29] >> Oh, it's. Off

[19:30] >> In keeping with your opening

[19:32] remarks I would like to propose

[19:34] agenda item 102, a motion of

[19:40] censure.

[19:47] The motion of censure when we

[19:49] come up it will be explained at

[19:52] the time if the motion is

[19:54] approved, if the amendment is

[19:58] approved.

[20:02] >> Oh okay,

[20:03] - 04.01?

[20:05] >> We have to go back with the

[20:07] approval of the agenda or not.

[20:11] [Inaudible]

[20:13] >> We're not centering, it's

[20:14] just putting it on the agenda to

[20:16] do that. That will. Calm but it

[20:17] needs to be seconded. The

[20:19] amendment needs to be seconded

[20:21] first.

[20:22] >> Just to be clear, Mister

[20:24] Councillor Cohen proposed an

[20:25] amendment to the agenda, to add

[20:28] a motion at 01.02, so we need to

[20:32] vote on that and then go back to

[20:34] the approval of the agenda

[20:35] without the amendment.

[20:38] >> Mister Mayor, yes, I would

[20:41] ask the City Clerk to explain

[20:43] the situation so the folks in

[20:45] the audience can understand what

[20:46] is exactly going on, thank you.

[20:49] >> We are at the approval of the

[20:52] agenda and before the boat there

[20:55] is a debate that on the

[20:56] proposition which is approve the

[20:58] agenda as presented by the City

[21:01] Clerk Oshawa office, with the

[21:02] agenda written by my staff that

[21:04] you have before you tonight and

[21:09] my understanding is Mr. Cohen

[21:11] wants to amend the agenda as

[21:15] proposed tonight. And he wants

[21:17] to add an amendment to the

[21:19] agenda by adding one 01.02. And

[21:22] you need to vote, as to add this

[21:27] item on the agenda and then you

[21:30] will go to majority. You go back

[21:32] to approval of the agenda with

[21:34] this amendment added.

[21:36] >> So we need a mover and

[21:38] seconder.

[21:39] >> For the amendment. First

[21:40] >> I moved it so we need to

[21:41] second it.

[21:43] >> Point of clarification,

[21:44] please. What is being censored?

[21:49] [Inaudible]

[22:00] >> Councillor Cohen --

[22:01] >> I can explain it, but --

[22:05] >> Motions censure.

[22:06] >> Well, people have to move,

[22:07] second, and vote. If people are

[22:10] going to move, second, and vote,

[22:11] they have to know what is being

[22:12] proposed.

[22:15] >> Mister Mayor, I just want to

[22:17] be clear here, Mr. Cohen

[22:21] proposed a motion to amend the

[22:25] agenda. So now we need to vote,

[22:27] we need a seconder on this

[22:30] amendment amendment and a vote.

[22:31] On this. That it.

[22:38] >> I'm just asking one it is.

[22:42] >> Tell us what it is.

[22:45] >> Point of order. This is just

[22:48] an agenda item. There's no

[22:50] explanation of an agenda item.

[22:53] That will come up during the

[22:54] discussion, if there is a

[22:55] discussion. If there is no

[22:57] discussion, then this item dies.

[22:59] If there is no second.

[23:04] [Inaudible]

[23:10] >> Just tell us what it. Is

[23:12] >> Will this motion be seconded?

[23:15] >> Yes, I second the motion of

[23:17] censure.

[23:18] >> All in favour?

[23:19] >> Take your hands off me.

[23:23] >> Against?

[23:26] >> And now we go back to the

[23:27] rule of the agenda with the

[23:30] amendment, and the withdrawal of

[23:39] 10.08 and 30.01 an. And

[23:40] >> I move to accept,.

[23:47] >> Eric Stork, district 7.

[23:50] >> We need to vote.

[23:51] >> All in favour?

[23:52] >> I thought we did. That, okay.

[23:54] >> Against?

[23:59] >> Who's against?

[24:00] - Personne? Non, non, mais...

[24:02] >> Mr. Tremblay,

[24:05] I didn't see you vote. To the

[24:08] approval of the agenda

[24:11] L'approbation de l'ordre du

[24:12] jour..

[24:16] You are against? And Mister

[24:17] Mayor, you didn't vote?

[24:19] >> No.

[24:20] >>

[24:21] - Okay. I'm not non.

[24:22] - O.K.. Clear on what we're

[24:23] voting on here.

[24:24] Yes, thank you. I think there

[24:25] are more than two. Okay.

[24:36] >> 01.02? Motion of censure?

[24:37] >> I'm prepared to read the

[24:39] motion. Motion is as follows.

[24:42] Whereas in accordance with mayor

[24:45] Thomas's instruction on

[24:48] Wednesday 21st of September his

[24:49] office disseminated an email

[24:50] communicate to Council

[24:51] throughout the city

[24:52] administration and to certain

[24:54] members of the general public.

[24:55] The purpose of which was to

[24:56] distribute as an attachment a

[24:58] private email exchange between

[25:02] Mr. Bryan green way and mayor

[25:04] Thomas. Whereas detachment

[25:05] included statements where he

[25:08] defamed a colleague on Council

[25:09] and cast aspersions on the

[25:13] replays environment in which he

[25:14] finds himself, administration

[25:16] and Council might hold

[25:18] responsible which is a clear

[25:19] violation of ethical values.

[25:22] Whereas Mayor Thomas has refused

[25:24] to take full responsibility for

[25:25] his reach of our norms of

[25:27] ethical conduct and issue a

[25:29] personal apology. Be resolved

[25:30] that this council expresses is

[25:34] profound regret that mayor

[25:35] Thomas cause to be transmitted

[25:37] to the administration the

[25:39] aforesaid email exchange wherein

[25:41] he employed defamatory and

[25:43] disloyal language, thereby

[25:46] causing hurt and distress, and a

[25:47] shot to displeasure that Mayor

[25:49] Thomas has rejected his duty to

[25:50] accept the full responsibility

[25:51] for this act and has equally

[25:53] rejected the simple remedy of

[25:56] issuing a personal apology.

[26:00] >> French version, please

[26:03] - En. Français, s'il vous plaît?

[26:04] -

[26:05] >> En français, s'il vous plaît?

[26:06] Pardon, me at the

[26:07] Beginning, Mr. Thomas, may I

[26:09] speak? At the beginning of the

[26:10] Mr. Thomas you said you would

[26:12] remove offender behaviour.

[26:16] >> Excuse Moore, Councillor

[26:17] Thorstad-Cullen, that's my call,

[26:18] not yours, thank you very much.

[26:19] What I will do is respond to

[26:21] what some of your confusions

[26:23] are.

[26:25] >> Mister Mayor, maybe we should

[26:26] take a break to discuss the

[26:28] French version of the amendment.

[26:29] >> Okay.

[26:31] >> I think we should take a

[26:32] break.

[26:33] >> Just, before we do that, part

[26:34] of the procedure is, this is the

[26:36] motion that has just been read,

[26:37] I am moving, it it has to be

[26:39] seconded, and then normally we

[26:40] would have a discussion.

[26:46] - On l'a pas eue en français.

[26:48] - On va prendre quelques

[26:49] instants, on va ajourner la

[26:51] session, on va vous revenir, je

[26:53] pense que j'apprécierais qu'on

[26:54] prenne un petit instant.

[40:29] (bruits)

[40:56] - Bon. When

[40:58] We left, Mr. Cohen moved his

[41:01] proposition. We need a seconder.

[41:07] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[41:08] district three.

[41:11] >> No. Mr. --

[41:20] >> Let's be respectful.

[41:23] >> I am. I respect Québec.

[41:26] [Inaudible]

[41:32] >> That's why it's inadmissible.

[41:44] >> Est-ce qu'on entend la

[41:45] version en français? I'll read

[41:46] both again. Whereas in

[41:47] Accordance with mayor Thomas his

[41:49] instructions on Wednesday --

[41:51] just the French. We already

[41:53] heard the English.

[42:22] On a

[42:23] (problème technique)

[42:24] Entendu que la pièce jointe

[42:26] contenait des déclarations dans

[42:31] lequel le maire monsieur Thomas

[42:35] J. est le discrédit sur son

[42:37] milieu de travail ainsi que des

[42:40] membres de l'administration qui

[42:41] pourrait être responsable, ce

[42:45] qui consiste en une

[42:49] manifestation

[42:50] (---)

[42:51] l'entière responsabilité de

[42:52] cette transgression de nos

[42:53] normes de conduite éthique et de

[42:55] présenter des excuses

[42:57] personnelles. Il est résolu que

[42:59] le conseil exprime son profond

[43:01] regret que le maire Thomas tient

[43:04] à transmettre à l'administration

[43:05] et au grand public et l'échange

[43:07] de courriels susmentionnés dans

[43:10] lequel il a employé un langage

[43:13] diffamatoire et déloyales

[43:15] causant ainsi de la désolation

[43:16] et de la détresse, de même que

[43:19] son vive mécontentement face au

[43:21] maire Thomas pour avoir manqué à

[43:23] son devoir d'accepter l'entière

[43:25] responsabilité de cet acte et a

[43:27] refusé d'y remédier à la

[43:30] présentation d'excuses

[43:31] personnelles.

[43:39] >>

[43:40] We need a vote.

[43:41] >> No.

[43:42] >> Mr. Cohen, first move. -- we

[43:48] need a vote now.

[43:49] >> All in favour? Against? Okay.

[43:54] >> May I speak, Mister Mayor?

[43:56] >> Absolutely.

[43:57] >> While I deplore any kind of

[44:02] harmful exchanges on email

[44:04] whether through intimidation, et

[44:05] cetera, et cetera -- I also

[44:09] deplore the tactics and

[44:11] procedural approaches taken

[44:12] tonight in order to resolve this

[44:15] issue in a public forum of this

[44:17] sort. For that reason, I voted

[44:18] against.

[44:22] >> You shouldn't yell out.

[44:27] Mister --, could I recommend

[44:28] that you wait until west period?

[44:34] Please, or we will have to ask

[44:35] you to leave. Okay. Please

[44:39] refrain from any more comments.

[44:43] Sir. Mr. sorrow, you are not

[44:45] leaving the must choice.

[44:54] >> You are afraid to have a

[44:55] response.

[44:56] [Inaudible]

[45:01] >> Mr.. Okay.

[45:14] Well, it's a first for me. Okay.

[45:17] Madame Thibault, -- Madame

[45:20] Thibault... qu'est-ce qu'on va

[45:21] faire maintenant?

[45:27] >> I'd like to respond.

[45:28] - 04.01. I'll try

[45:31] And bring a little human speak

[45:33] to the room. What's being

[45:35] referred to here was an

[45:37] occurrence that occurred a

[45:39] couple weeks ago. I woke up one

[45:41] morning in my personal home and

[45:45] I was sent an email by my friend

[45:46] who I had invited and had

[45:49] performed at the West Island

[45:50] blues fest, in Pointe-Claire. He

[45:52] wrote me, he's a good friend.

[45:57] We've had various exchanges

[45:58] along the way. We talked about

[46:00] the show, what he was going to

[46:01] do, how he felt about it. We've

[46:03] had some feedback. We've had

[46:05] various long conversations in

[46:06] email on my private home. I woke

[46:10] up one morning after the blues

[46:13] festival, a couple days after,

[46:14] and Bryan wrote this: hi, Tim. I

[46:18] wanted to mention to you what a

[46:19] perfect choice the venue was for

[46:21] the West Island blues festival

[46:22] in -- the park itself became but

[46:26] -- came into being a centerpiece

[46:28] with the surrounding buildings

[46:30] tastefully lighted, accentuating

[46:32] the parameters of the park,

[46:34] leaving a nice feeling of being

[46:35] in a public square. The Billings

[46:38] themselves lent a hand in giving

[46:40] wonderful reflection from the

[46:41] sound system and crowd control.

[46:43] The addition of blocking off the

[46:46] intersection of Cartier and

[46:47] Lakeshore also contributed to

[46:49] the safety of the public, with

[46:51] the overflow of people into the

[46:53] streets -- the flow of attendees

[46:55] and go freely to all the

[46:57] festival sites and vendors. We

[46:59] can thank you enough and the

[47:02] city of Pointe-Claire staff for

[47:03] doing such a perfect job of

[47:05] creating a beautiful summer

[47:06] night in a music festival

[47:07] setting. From the perspective of

[47:10] a seasoned professional, many

[47:11] artists perform there at night,

[47:12] it could not have been better

[47:14] prepared. Perfect sound and

[47:16] lighting systems with good

[47:18] security for backstage access.

[47:19] Thank you again. Ryan Greenaway,

[47:22] April one. Member of the

[47:26] Canadian music hall of fame. I

[47:27] was thrilled when I received

[47:29] that. He put such work into it

[47:31] and care into the writing of it.

[47:34] I was so excited. I wanted all

[47:36] the people -- not everybody, not

[47:38] all the staff -- and know

[47:41] certain members of the grand

[47:42] public, I sent an email

[47:44] specifically to the staff who

[47:45] provided that event. I wanted

[47:49] them to know, to get this letter

[47:52] from a rock star, knowing that

[47:54] such an experienced man a

[47:56] appreciated their efforts. I was

[47:58] thrilled and excited so I

[47:59] forwarded the email from my we

[48:02] personal computer to my work

[48:04] computer. First time I've done

[48:05] this. I won't do it again. I

[48:07] said, Teresa, please send this

[48:09] to public works. Security,

[48:11] leisure. All the people in those

[48:14] departments are responsible for

[48:16] the event. They know how much I

[48:17] appreciate them and what this

[48:19] person thinks of their efforts.

[48:21] And Teresa sent it.

[48:24] Unfortunately, unbeknownst to

[48:28] me, 20 minutes later she came

[48:29] and said, unfortunately, there

[48:33] is a whole email exchange you

[48:35] had had with Mr. Greenaway

[48:38] attached below that message.

[48:39] That went out to the staff. A

[48:40] rookie mistake. Motives were

[48:45] good but it went out to the

[48:46] staff. That being said, we try

[48:48] to pull it back immediately. But

[48:49] it was forwarded and exchanged.

[48:52] I let it said for a couple days.

[48:56] As is my procedure, I don't know

[48:59] what I should do with something

[49:00] -- I sit on it and ruminate.

[49:04] Then I started talking to staff

[49:06] and how they felt. Some giggled.

[49:10] It wasn't a horrendous thing. It

[49:14] was not nice but it wasn't a

[49:16] horrendous thing. It was a

[49:17] personal exchange that should

[49:18] not have gotten out there. I

[49:20] wouldn't have put it out there

[49:21] had I not known they were going

[49:22] public -- I made a boo-boo. I

[49:27] asked if if they were offended.

[49:29] All the staff I consulted said

[49:31] no. That it was unfortunate and

[49:35] people reprimanded me with, my

[49:38] clearly -- clumsiness of using

[49:39] email, which I deserve. And

[49:41] that's where I let it sit for me

[49:44] and that is where it sits

[49:46] tonight. That's why you have

[49:48] heard what you have heard.

[49:49] >> I have a comment, please. --

[49:52] >> Whether you like it or not.

[49:53] >> You know what?

[49:56] >> I will be provided a list of

[49:57] city employees.

[49:59] >> Councillor Cowan already

[50:00] spoke.

[50:02] >> I'm entitled to speak. Mr.

[50:04] Thomas, I would like to be

[50:06] provided a list -- that agreed

[50:08] with your statement. That is

[50:09] false.

[50:13] >> Well. That's not the ones I'm

[50:15] talking to. There we go.

[50:17] >> Where do we go from here? We

[50:19] go to --

[50:22] >> I simply -- why we put this

[50:26] motion out is because the

[50:27] majority of Council wanted to

[50:30] apologize to our city employees.

[50:32] We need to uphold our code of

[50:34] ethics, our behaviour, our

[50:37] civility, our baseline level of

[50:38] respect. We felt that the city

[50:44] of Pointe-Claire employees

[50:45] deserves at least an apology on

[50:47] our part that is simply all it

[50:48] is.

[50:52] >> Okay.

[50:53] >> As the mover, I have one last

[50:54] comment.

[50:57] >> You had enough to say.

[50:58] >> This would've been

[50:59] unnecessary if the mayor was

[51:01] were approached through asking

[51:02] to do the right thing for the

[51:04] last week and he refused. That

[51:05] made it necessary to do what we

[51:06] are doing tonight.

[51:09] >> I did not refuse. I consulted

[51:10] others. I was told it was not

[51:13] necessary. Where do we go from

[51:15] here? Do we go to question

[51:20] period? Do we approve the French

[51:21] and --

[51:25] - Qu'est-ce 04.01 Approuver les

[51:26] versions françaises et les

[51:27] versions anglaises des

[51:28] procès-verbaux de la séance

[51:29] ordinaire du 6 septembre 2022 et

[51:30] de la séance extraordinaire du

[51:31] 13 septembre 2022.

[51:32] >> Do I have a mover?

[51:33] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[51:35] District three.

[51:36] >> And seconder?

[51:37] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[51:38] >> All in favour?

[51:42] - Question period.!.,,.

[52:01] (---)

[52:04] . For a question period, we

[52:09] shall stick to the 90 minute

[52:12] limit for that question period

[52:13] as has been done in the past. We

[52:14] will begin with questions from

[52:16] Pointe-Claire residents and

[52:17] address Questions from the

[52:18] developers only after these have

[52:19] been answered. If the developers

[52:20] questions are not redundant.

[52:26] >> This is about council

[52:27] meetings. Okay. You are talking

[52:32] at the beginning. I feel Council

[52:35] meetings are far too long.

[52:37] Other people feel so as well.

[52:40] Those who most likely voted for

[52:41] you to go on at length far too

[52:44] long, you don't often answer.

[52:46] You instead you like to talk

[52:47] about your own accomplishments.

[52:49] Citizens need a time-limited

[52:52] question period. Your answers

[52:54] should only pertain to City

[52:55] business. You can answer yes or

[52:58] no to time limits for questions

[52:59] and answers.

[53:02] >> Would I like some?

[53:04] >> Yes or no?

[53:05] >> Yeah, absolutely. In your

[53:08] instance especially.

[53:09] >> Okay. Thank you. I won't go

[53:12] on very long.

[53:13] >> You don't go on very long?

[53:16] Okay. We will deal with that in

[53:18] a second.

[53:19] >> No, we are not going to deal

[53:20] with that.

[53:21] >> We will do whatever I will

[53:23] decide on that one.

[53:25] >> At last council meeting, I

[53:26] asked about you having a

[53:28] political adviser. No answer was

[53:30] given. Instead you reacted and

[53:33] responded that you didn't know

[53:34] what to do -- was that a threat

[53:36] or a condescending remark?

[53:40] >> Miss Weaver, you are so

[53:43] perplexing in your questions

[53:44] that I sometimes don't know what

[53:45] to do with you. Your question

[53:48] about the political adviser was

[53:51] particularly interesting because

[53:53] I've been a paid political

[53:54] advisor at a much higher level.

[53:56] The person who was accused of

[53:58] being my political advisor was

[53:59] in fact my former student. I

[54:01] would never pay him to be my

[54:03] political adviser, I promise. I

[54:05] found the question perplexing.

[54:08] Bordering on absurd-ism.

[54:12] Regarding people who go on too

[54:13] long, and those who voted for

[54:16] you, Miss Weaver, that's really

[54:18] interesting. I have allowed you

[54:19] so much time at the microphone.

[54:22] That's kind of disingenuous and

[54:25] doesn't hold much water. That's

[54:27] my answer.

[54:28] >> My question was, was it a

[54:29] threat or a condescending remark

[54:31] when you wanted --

[54:34] >> No threat nor condescending

[54:35] remark. I explained it, Miss

[54:36] Weaver, I said it was

[54:37] perplexing. Thank you, Miss

[54:39] Weaver. Do you have a question?

[54:40] You have another question?

[54:41] >> I have a copy.

[54:43] >> You have two questions.

[54:45] You've asked one. Miss Weaver,

[54:47] you have two questions. You've

[54:49] asked one. Okay, thank you.

[54:50] Thank you.

[54:54] >> So, it was a threat?

[55:02] >> Hi. We are -- Ron Williams

[55:07] from -- in the Cedar Park

[55:08] district. The point we wanted to

[55:14] bring up today is a follow-up

[55:16] concerning a question that we

[55:18] raised at a meeting in the early

[55:21] spring, relative to that

[55:23] instruction of the green

[55:25] triangle in the middle of

[55:28] Killarney gardens, our street.

[55:30] It's a replacement with a gravel

[55:32] parking lot for the making of

[55:33] the film in a nearby house. The

[55:37] neighbours were shocked. We

[55:39] formally asked the City to

[55:40] repair the damage. They said you

[55:45] would, you said you would. And

[55:46] you did. The job was completed

[55:51] about six weeks ago. It's a

[55:53] beautiful piece of work. It's

[55:55] well created, well spotted.

[55:58] People started playing ball and

[56:00] so on on the green. All the

[56:03] neighbours we've spoken with are

[56:05] very happy with the result. We

[56:07] wanted to thank, particularly,

[56:08] Mayor Tim Thomas, Councillor for

[56:15] our district, Erin Tedford, and

[56:17] all members of Council for

[56:18] approving these repairs. And we

[56:21] know that employees from several

[56:24] departments at the City were

[56:25] involved. We are not sure how

[56:28] many developed mince. And the

[56:30] contractor, north strung, did a

[56:33] nice job. It wasn't easy with --

[56:35] a lot of gravel, very heavy work

[56:37] done. We think this is

[56:42] particularly important for

[56:45] Pointe-Claire, which prides

[56:45] itself on being a green city. We

[56:50] think that Pointe-Claire should

[56:51] be a champion of sustainable

[56:52] development. The basic

[56:56] principles of which include

[56:58] protection of flora and fauna,

[57:01] particularly green areas and

[57:02] naturally forested areas. In all

[57:08] the projects the City undertakes

[57:11] and all the private projects it

[57:12] approves. Other major issues,

[57:17] water retention and management,

[57:19] respect for heritage values, and

[57:22] protection of the environment

[57:23] and the citizens from pollution

[57:26] and toxic materials.

[57:33] >> To follow up on our

[57:36] experience with the green

[57:41] becoming an enormous -- for a

[57:43] movie company, we were looking

[57:45] to the future, that our green

[57:50] space -- it could be called

[57:53] Killarney green. Like we have

[57:55] the bowling green. We have many

[57:56] green spaces in Pointe-Claire.

[57:59] We look to council as you are

[58:03] our policy makers, our leaders

[58:05] in Pointe-Claire, that you come

[58:08] to terms with the fact that

[58:11] every green space in

[58:12] Pointe-Claire is precious to the

[58:14] residents who reside around

[58:15] them. And that an effort should

[58:19] be made -- selfishly, in our

[58:21] case -- that you protect our

[58:23] little green space and you put

[58:25] it on your city planning map as

[58:29] green. Right now, it is white,

[58:31] which means anything can happen.

[58:34] In fact, when we bought our

[58:36] property, that was a question we

[58:38] asked. Can anybody build on this

[58:40] green space? We were told, no,

[58:43] no, nobody will do anything. We

[58:47] think there should be concerted

[58:49] efforts by this city fathers and

[58:53] others to really protect, a

[58:58] status that will protect these

[58:59] green spaces so that no film

[59:02] company or whatever can come in

[59:04] and just wipe it out. This is my

[59:07] question to you. Will you please

[59:11] consider this status for the

[59:17] green space to become a

[59:19] permanent status, whereby it can

[59:21] never be encroached again in

[59:25] this manner? Thank you.

[59:26] >> Thank you.

[59:27] [Applause]

[59:30] I can't speak for Council. I'm

[59:32] pretty confident that's an

[59:35] excellent suggestion to have it

[59:37] zoned green as opposed to white,

[59:38] I think, there is no reason why

[59:40] that shouldn't happen. It makes

[59:42] complete sense to me. It can't

[59:43] be developed upon. Yes.

[59:55] >> I wanted to talk about the

[59:58] soil trauma development. We've

[1:00:02] had a lot of talk about how the

[1:00:06] city of Pointe-Claire has to

[1:00:08] follow the guidelines of the p

[1:00:12] math in's our bylaws and zoning

[1:00:16] bylaws like regulations.

[1:00:19] However, that the math has a

[1:00:22] special criteria on page 90 in

[1:00:25] the for the tide areas -- that

[1:00:27] is the areas close to transit

[1:00:31] hub and it says they would like

[1:00:33] to have a gradation from the

[1:00:36] access point that is access to

[1:00:39] the transit stations -- slot

[1:00:41] development is maximized while

[1:00:43] respecting local landscape and

[1:00:45] natural environment, promoting

[1:00:47] diversity and a better

[1:00:48] horizontal and vertical -- so

[1:00:52] forth. To cultivate a dynamic

[1:00:57] community life while adapting to

[1:01:00] the landscaping of the --

[1:01:03] managing storm water runoff. The

[1:01:09] development in the area in

[1:01:12] Sotramont does not respect any

[1:01:13] of these. And the high-rises are

[1:01:14] next to family homes. The areas

[1:01:18] with Sotramont the residential

[1:01:19] housing on land are raised up by

[1:01:22] tens of landfill -- educate --

[1:01:25] above all the surrounding areas.

[1:01:27] With inadequate water retention

[1:01:30] facilities for we -- the result

[1:01:32] is major flooding problems for

[1:01:34] the neighbouring lots,

[1:01:35] especially the established lots,

[1:01:37] and the older houses surrounding

[1:01:39] are having terrible problems.

[1:01:42] The standing with a lot and

[1:01:44] seasonal wetland was completely

[1:01:46] clear cut and landfilled. The

[1:01:50] two acres given to the city were

[1:01:53] left flooded for over a year.

[1:01:55] All the trees are dead. In that

[1:01:58] area, and the only trees that I

[1:02:00] know of are now on city land. I

[1:02:02] don't think there are any trees

[1:02:03] on the private property left.

[1:02:07] Just in the fronts and backs of

[1:02:09] the sidewalks. I would like to

[1:02:13] know, you said in your preamble

[1:02:16] that Sotramont preceded with a

[1:02:18] clear cutting of the trees

[1:02:19] before they had a permit. Is

[1:02:24] that so? Were they find?

[1:02:25] >> I don't know the specifics on

[1:02:26] that. From what I understand,

[1:02:29] they were fined. We this was

[1:02:31] before my. Time I'm going on

[1:02:33] what Councillor Tedford

[1:02:34] researched. I will turn that one

[1:02:36] over to Mr. Sydney who knows the

[1:02:37] issue and it was there at the

[1:02:38] time.

[1:02:40] >> By August 2019, the entire

[1:02:44] area of -- was completely clear

[1:02:47] cut and bulldozers were moving

[1:02:49] at landfill in. In fact, the

[1:02:50] trees that were given to the

[1:02:52] city, that's stretch of land

[1:02:55] between Park and Austin, which

[1:02:56] is supposed to be the parks and

[1:02:59] recreation levy, they were

[1:03:02] bulldozing landfill up against

[1:03:03] the trees. An entire line of

[1:03:05] trees, which supposedly belongs

[1:03:07] to the city of Pointe-Claire

[1:03:08] now, had landfills bulldozed up

[1:03:10] against it. About this high.

[1:03:16] Those trees were dead instantly.

[1:03:18] No tree can survive that. The

[1:03:22] rest were left and flooded land

[1:03:23] for over a year and they all

[1:03:24] died. I mean, the trees they cut

[1:03:29] down in the whole area north of

[1:03:31] there, did they do that with a

[1:03:32] permit?

[1:03:35] >> Since day one, we've been

[1:03:38] negotiating almost on a weekly

[1:03:40] basis with the Sotramont

[1:03:42] executives. It's still going on.

[1:03:45] All the trees that have been cut

[1:03:47] have to be replaced. Of course,

[1:03:52] the trees that were cut, some of

[1:03:53] them were quite, they were

[1:03:57] mature trees but they are being

[1:03:58] replaced by younger tree. We are

[1:04:02] still negotiating with

[1:04:03] Sotramont, to make sure that

[1:04:04] they will respect everything

[1:04:08] that has been put on their

[1:04:09] plans. We have negotiated with

[1:04:15] them and it still going on. We

[1:04:20] even had a meeting the last week

[1:04:21] with them as well. Every time we

[1:04:27] go for visits, all our directors

[1:04:30] for public works, engineering,

[1:04:33] public security, urban planning,

[1:04:36] every time we have something to

[1:04:39] negotiate, we sit down before,

[1:04:40] we look at what still has to be

[1:04:43] done in the Greenwich village

[1:04:46] and we asked Sotramont to

[1:04:48] correct what has to be

[1:04:49] corrected.

[1:04:51] >> Why are you negotiating with

[1:04:52] them and not just finding them?

[1:04:56] >> Right now, it's just that

[1:04:58] they still have the chance to

[1:05:00] correct whatever has to be

[1:05:01] corrected. If it's not

[1:05:02] corrected, they will be fined.

[1:05:05] >> I had a beautiful --

[1:05:08] >> That's two questions.

[1:05:10] >> Okay. But I had a beautiful

[1:05:12] spruce tree on my property,

[1:05:13] huge, old spruce tree. I liked

[1:05:15] it very much. However, in that

[1:05:18] wind, the root lifted out of the

[1:05:19] ground. I consulted and arborist

[1:05:22] and was told the tree is doomed.

[1:05:25] It's a danger. You have to cut

[1:05:28] it down. The city said we have

[1:05:29] to send an inspector. You need

[1:05:31] to get a permit. Even if the

[1:05:33] tree is a danger, if you cut it

[1:05:35] down before you get a permit, we

[1:05:37] will find you and make you

[1:05:38] replace it. The city was set to

[1:05:42] find me and make me replace the

[1:05:45] tree. Why not Sotramont?

[1:05:50] >> You've had to. There we go.

[1:05:56] >> From district A. Good evening

[1:06:00] attendance and Council. I've got

[1:06:05] two preamble's into questions

[1:06:06] directed to you, Mister Mayor.

[1:06:09] >> Sir, the preamble has got us

[1:06:12] nervous. You've given us a lot

[1:06:13] of preamble of the last couple

[1:06:15] of meetings. We know your facts

[1:06:16] for sure. You presented a long

[1:06:18] --

[1:06:20] >> I will be quick.

[1:06:21] >> Can you adjust the

[1:06:22] microphone, please?

[1:06:24] >> I will be brief. My first --

[1:06:28] so my questions are presenting

[1:06:31] this citizens effort to get the

[1:06:32] city of Pointe-Claire to pass a

[1:06:35] resolution to get -- a stop --

[1:06:41] water Plante. The first point is

[1:06:46] a document I received through

[1:06:48] access to information from the

[1:06:49] City of Montréal, which I

[1:06:51] forwarded to every member of

[1:06:52] Council this morning. This

[1:06:56] document says that the

[1:06:59] fluoridation chemical that's

[1:07:00] added to Pointe-Claire's water

[1:07:03] -- contaminated with trace

[1:07:04] levels of arsenic and lead.

[1:07:06] Talking about a green city. What

[1:07:09] green city adds trace levels of

[1:07:12] arsenic and lead to their

[1:07:13] drinking water intentionally?

[1:07:14] The question with that is, how

[1:07:15] long should Pointe-Claire

[1:07:17] residents continue drinking

[1:07:18] water laced intentionally with

[1:07:19] arsenic and lead? The second

[1:07:24] point is, we are at 3600

[1:07:27] signatures of residents who live

[1:07:28] in Pointe-Claire. That's the

[1:07:32] petition part. Of the survey

[1:07:33] part, 1080 households who were

[1:07:37] asked to choose between yes and

[1:07:40] no we, household consecutively,

[1:07:42] 76% of them have decided err on

[1:07:46] the side of caution and do not

[1:07:49] want fluoridation chemicals

[1:07:51] added to the drinking water. Are

[1:07:52] you going to ignore 3600

[1:07:55] residents of Pointe-Claire?

[1:07:59] That's over 13% of

[1:08:00] Pointe-Claire's voting

[1:08:01] population. The question to that

[1:08:04] point is, would you put this

[1:08:10] topic on the agenda to be voted

[1:08:11] on? Today, you said that he

[1:08:17] would be mentioning silencing

[1:08:19] debate. This seems like this is

[1:08:21] being silenced. You also

[1:08:23] mentioned democracy. I think

[1:08:24] freedom of consent, people being

[1:08:27] medicated without consent with

[1:08:29] fluoridation -- substances laced

[1:08:34] with lead and arsenic, I mean,

[1:08:38] we aim for 0% lead and arsenic

[1:08:40] in drinking water. On top of

[1:08:42] that lead already being reached

[1:08:46] out of pipes from the -- to the

[1:08:47] drinking water.

[1:08:49] >> Okay.

[1:08:51] >> I was collecting signatures

[1:08:53] -- mothers telling me children

[1:08:54] are still getting dental -- it

[1:08:57] costs about $1,000 a tooth to

[1:09:00] recap. I met a 15-year-old girl

[1:09:02] who is to shied a smile because

[1:09:04] her teeth are damaged

[1:09:06] permanently because of this

[1:09:08] fluoridation chemical. We

[1:09:09] shouldn't have to worry about

[1:09:11] children overdosing on tap

[1:09:12] water, especially tap water

[1:09:13] laced with arsenic and lead.

[1:09:14] People are appalled to see this

[1:09:15] document. I'm taking this

[1:09:17] door-to-door. I don't want to go

[1:09:19] to court. To successfully won in

[1:09:22] court in other places in Canada.

[1:09:24] Pointe-Claire is the last place

[1:09:27] too -- the last play that's

[1:09:28] gonna be fluoridation in the

[1:09:29] entire province. -- being added

[1:09:34] intentionally to drinking water.

[1:09:35] Mind you, trace levels. We don't

[1:09:38] have that in any other food or

[1:09:39] drug product. That's a two

[1:09:41] questions.

[1:09:43] >> Okay.

[1:09:45] >> How long should --

[1:09:47] [Applause]

[1:09:50] How long should Pointe-Claire

[1:09:52] citizens have to drink water

[1:09:53] laced with arsenic and lead

[1:09:55] intentionally? Are you going to

[1:09:58] ignore 3600 and counting

[1:10:01] individuals, 13% of

[1:10:03] Pointe-Claire's voting

[1:10:04] population by not putting this

[1:10:05] on the agenda?

[1:10:08] >> We won't do anything that

[1:10:12] goes against the wishes of the

[1:10:13] entire majority of Pointe-Claire

[1:10:14] citizens. Everybody who moved to

[1:10:17] Pointe-Claire is aware of the

[1:10:18] water in Pointe-Claire. It's

[1:10:19] been there for a very, very,

[1:10:21] very long time. Our water, of

[1:10:24] course, I'm answering now,

[1:10:25] you've had your questions. We

[1:10:27] won't get into a debate here.

[1:10:32] People -- parents aren't

[1:10:34] willingly having their children

[1:10:37] drink water that, quote, laced

[1:10:39] with arsenic and lead. That's a

[1:10:41] bit dramatic. Laced with arsenic

[1:10:42] and lead. In other words,

[1:10:44] deliberately put in there to

[1:10:46] harm children. I can't see the

[1:10:48] bulk of the people running water

[1:10:50] in the Anglo or anywhere -- I

[1:10:53] have to think that -- and I

[1:10:57] don't know the science, maybe

[1:10:58] not as well as you do -- I am

[1:11:03] certainly willing to hear and

[1:11:05] study more the issue and hear

[1:11:07] the science. I think we all are.

[1:11:08] All of us of here are perfectly

[1:11:10] willing to hear the science. The

[1:11:12] science is not yet fully

[1:11:14] unanimous on the. It's not even

[1:11:16] -- it's still highly debatable.

[1:11:19] Myself, personally, I'm not an

[1:11:20] expert in this stuff. I will do

[1:11:24] what the majority -- I will

[1:11:27] promote -- because I can't do --

[1:11:28] but I will promote with the

[1:11:29] majority of my citizens want. If

[1:11:31] I hear an expression of

[1:11:33] unanimous expression one way or

[1:11:35] the other I will certainly

[1:11:36] advocate. There are a lot of

[1:11:38] people that are aware of

[1:11:39] Pointe-Claire's water and have

[1:11:43] no qualms and don't fear it. I

[1:11:46] don't know what the proportions

[1:11:47] are. I am willing to listen and

[1:11:50] try and understand what the

[1:11:52] proper solution to this is. I

[1:11:54] can't imagine that we, in all

[1:11:56] this time, are deliberately

[1:11:57] hurting children or trying to

[1:11:59] hurt ourselves. I can't imagine

[1:12:00] that. What I think and how the

[1:12:04] people delivering the water --

[1:12:07] it goes against what I think

[1:12:09] their motives are. I can't

[1:12:10] imagine it. I find the language

[1:12:14] dramatic I. Do except the

[1:12:15] possibility that we may move

[1:12:17] away from fluoridation. I'm not

[1:12:18] sure. I'm not an expert in it.

[1:12:21] I've certainly been fair and

[1:12:22] allowed you to express yourself.

[1:12:25] I don't feel you've been

[1:12:27] silenced. That people are doing

[1:12:28] things without consent. I think

[1:12:30] it's out in the open, this

[1:12:32] issue. I think you are debating

[1:12:34] it right now. I applaud you for

[1:12:36] doing so. I will continue to do

[1:12:38] so. Hopefully, we will come out

[1:12:39] on the right side of this issue,

[1:12:41] whichever way it is. I don't

[1:12:42] have one side or the other, to

[1:12:43] be honest with you.

[1:12:46] >> You have that email with the

[1:12:47] ingredients. It says it on line

[1:12:49] number five, heavy metal,

[1:12:50] arsenic, and led. We it's

[1:12:51] written there.

[1:12:54] >> Thank you. I don't think it's

[1:12:59] laced. Ma'am, can I ask you to

[1:13:03] get in line. We are not allowing

[1:13:05] people to shout out from the

[1:13:07] audience anymore. We Mr. Searle

[1:13:10] has already left the premises

[1:13:11] for doing so. Yes, sir.

[1:13:15] >> Good evening. My name is Paul

[1:13:17] Atkinson. I live -- in

[1:13:18] Pointe-Claire. I'm here with

[1:13:20] neighbours tonight. Last month,

[1:13:23] I came to Council to voice

[1:13:25] concerns about the -- properties

[1:13:28] between the Sotramont project

[1:13:30] and houses on Alston.

[1:13:31] >> Could I ask people to stop

[1:13:33] talking while the gentleman asks

[1:13:34] his question? Just that a

[1:13:35] courtesy. I can't hear him very

[1:13:36] well.

[1:13:38] >> Mister Atkinson, can you move

[1:13:40] the mic -- lift that Mike

[1:13:41] further up. It's a bit too low.

[1:13:45] [Laughs]

[1:13:48] >> As I mentioned that evening

[1:13:49] last month, a house on Alston

[1:13:53] flooded last April with four

[1:13:54] feet of water accumulating in

[1:13:56] the basement of an elderly

[1:13:57] couple. They had to evacuate

[1:13:58] their house for weeks. The city,

[1:14:00] at the time, told us it was

[1:14:03] because Sotramont had failed to

[1:14:05] complete the ditch. Following

[1:14:06] the meeting last month, the

[1:14:07] residents of Alston, we met with

[1:14:08] our neighbours in the Greenwich

[1:14:10] Cartier, Cartier Greenwich. One

[1:14:13] of the town houses also flooded

[1:14:16] last spring. One resident, whose

[1:14:18] town house flooded twice, has

[1:14:20] two children under five. This

[1:14:22] reinforces what I stated about

[1:14:24] flooding being a south --

[1:14:25] particularly for children and

[1:14:26] the elderly. With winter coming

[1:14:30] and a heavy snowfall predicted,

[1:14:31] we are fearful that flooding

[1:14:33] will occur again next spring.

[1:14:35] Thankfully, we are able to meet

[1:14:37] with officials from the City.

[1:14:38] Namely, Daniel say gay and Tim

[1:14:42] Thomas. We thank Mr. say again

[1:14:46] for his --

[1:14:47] >> Eric was there as well.

[1:14:51] >> Collectively, we would like

[1:14:52] to thank you both for taking the

[1:14:54] time to meet us on site and with

[1:14:57] our insurance. Councillor

[1:14:59] Stainforth is unavailable, but

[1:15:01] was at the similar meeting. We

[1:15:02] are happy to oblige. As a

[1:15:04] collective group of residents,

[1:15:06] today we submitted a written

[1:15:07] request for the City to hire an

[1:15:09] outside firm to evaluate the --

[1:15:11] one, what can be done to resolve

[1:15:13] the flooding in the forest? To,

[1:15:15] if the ditch is a sufficient --

[1:15:19] sufficient to prevent further

[1:15:21] flooding or if an alternative

[1:15:23] drainage solution is required.

[1:15:26] One, the forest is perpetually

[1:15:29] flooded and no measures have

[1:15:30] been taken to fix this. Number

[1:15:33] two, while the edges may be

[1:15:34] greener and less expensive to

[1:15:36] the developer, we questioned

[1:15:37] whether it's the most effective

[1:15:38] way to drain water from what was

[1:15:41] formerly wetland. In addition to

[1:15:43] the flooding behind the three

[1:15:45] town houses in Greenwich Village

[1:15:49] last spring, that water level in

[1:15:50] the ditch was very high. If

[1:15:53] there is a greater amount of

[1:15:56] snowfall, and rainfall, in the

[1:15:57] spring, or a clog in the

[1:15:59] drainage, it could reach -- and

[1:16:01] this would cause flooding in my

[1:16:02] house and my neighbour's houses.

[1:16:07] The third reason is we simply

[1:16:08] don't trust Sotramont work.

[1:16:11] According to the city, it's

[1:16:12] their work that led to the

[1:16:13] floods. While they claim to have

[1:16:15] fix the issue, the water still

[1:16:16] doesn't drain as expect.

[1:16:26] Sorry. Our question tonight, are

[1:16:32] you in favour of an independent

[1:16:34] study taking place and

[1:16:35] determining whether further

[1:16:37] drainage solutions are required

[1:16:38] to prevent flooding on the

[1:16:40] houses on Alston in the

[1:16:42] Greenwich project? If the study

[1:16:44] showed that the current drainage

[1:16:46] solution is inadequate, what

[1:16:48] measures with the city be

[1:16:49] willing to take to fix it?

[1:16:54] >> Excuse me, Mister. Thomas may

[1:16:56] I?

[1:16:57] >> Absolutely.

[1:16:58] >> Excuse me, Mister Atkinson,

[1:16:59] as you know, and as I explained

[1:17:02] to you, the city is being sued

[1:17:03] right now. Okay? As I told you

[1:17:08] in the previous meeting, we

[1:17:10] cannot comment. We cannot give

[1:17:11] you solutions. I've received

[1:17:14] your email, which was set at

[1:17:16] 5:30 today. We are going to look

[1:17:19] at it. I haven't had the time to

[1:17:23] discuss this issue with caucus.

[1:17:28] That's as much information as I

[1:17:31] can give. I would suggest that

[1:17:35] Council perhaps don't comment

[1:17:36] more than that.

[1:17:43] >> Thanks for your time.

[1:17:44] >> I'm going to go ahead.

[1:17:53] >> Good evening. I hope

[1:17:55] everybody is doing well. Lynn

[1:17:58] Conway. I want to talk about --

[1:18:05] [Inaudible]

[1:18:17] >> It's the lowering and raising

[1:18:19] mechanism that seems to be the

[1:18:20] issue here.

[1:18:22] >> Okay. The condo projects.

[1:18:39] The condo projects. It's the

[1:18:44] same question I asked last

[1:18:46] month. I would like more clarity

[1:18:48] on how a decision will be made

[1:18:50] on how decisions will be made

[1:18:52] following the report by that

[1:18:54] consulting firm, considering

[1:18:56] that six councillors -- how will

[1:19:01] Council abide by the results of

[1:19:02] the report?

[1:19:05] >> What report? I am unclear.

[1:19:07] >> The consulting firm we hired

[1:19:10] --

[1:19:11] >> Who hired the --

[1:19:12] >> Win --

[1:19:16] >> I'm not sure what consulting

[1:19:19] firm, and what issue.

[1:19:23] >> And the consulting we are

[1:19:24] doing for the icy be.

[1:19:31] >> Okay..

[1:19:35] >> We have hired a firm that

[1:19:36] will deal with public

[1:19:38] consultations.

[1:19:39] >> There is a report, right?

[1:19:40] >> They are engaging. They will

[1:19:46] engage in consulting the public.

[1:19:47] They have been hired to solicit

[1:19:48] the public to engage in public

[1:19:51] consultation.

[1:19:52] >> They will provide a report to

[1:19:53] you and Council. A decision will

[1:19:57] have to be made by Council. My

[1:19:59] question is, I'm concerned there

[1:20:03] are six councillors very pro

[1:20:04] developer. How will a decision

[1:20:06] be made? By the reports results?

[1:20:09] There's a lot of traffic and a

[1:20:10] lot of construction. Will there

[1:20:12] be more and more people in

[1:20:13] traffic? It's getting risky

[1:20:16] crossing the street now.

[1:20:21] >> I'm sure some councillors

[1:20:23] would take exception to them

[1:20:25] being pro developer. I can't

[1:20:29] imagine any of us, all of us

[1:20:30] together, would ever resist that

[1:20:32] results of the public

[1:20:35] consultation. We would

[1:20:37] certainly, certainly I'm sure

[1:20:38] they will be held public and I'm

[1:20:40] sure everybody will listen to

[1:20:42] them. I hope. I can't imagine

[1:20:43] that happening. My feeling is

[1:20:47] that I'm not worried about it

[1:20:48] myself, personally. I think we

[1:20:52] will all listen to what the

[1:20:55] public says and abide

[1:20:57] accordingly. That's my hope. I

[1:20:58] suspect it may be the case.

[1:21:01] >> All the council meetings I've

[1:21:02] been to recently, all the voting

[1:21:05] have gone for the developers.

[1:21:09] How can we know? Will there be a

[1:21:11] vote on the report?

[1:21:14] >> Well, some of the decisions

[1:21:18] recently have been based on the

[1:21:20] degree of completion of various

[1:21:22] projects. Some of them are

[1:21:25] exempt from the ICB because they

[1:21:27] were far along and it would

[1:21:28] jeopardize them. That is some of

[1:21:32] the rationale for why people

[1:21:33] vote the way they vote. I can't

[1:21:37] imagine -- I just can't imagine

[1:21:38] any of us would deny the result

[1:21:40] of public consultation. My

[1:21:45] greater fear is not with

[1:21:46] Council. My greater fear is with

[1:21:49] the methodology of the

[1:21:50] consultation. That's the one I'm

[1:21:51] very concerned about. I want to

[1:21:52] make sure we get a true

[1:21:54] expression of public opinion, an

[1:21:55] accurate reflection of what

[1:21:56] people want. What we get is a

[1:22:00] result -- will reflect that

[1:22:02] public. If we get that

[1:22:03] accurately, we can do the right

[1:22:04] thing and people will be happy.

[1:22:06] I'm hoping.

[1:22:07] >> There will be a development,

[1:22:09] most likely, on my street? I

[1:22:10] don't know how I will be

[1:22:11] consulted. Are they calling me,

[1:22:13] sending me a letter, email?

[1:22:16] >> We are not there yet. I am

[1:22:19] hoping you will have a chance to

[1:22:20] express your will. The idea is

[1:22:24] to be transparent and get as

[1:22:26] much -- as many people as

[1:22:27] possible to get involved in the

[1:22:28] process. The irony of all this

[1:22:31] as we did a public consultation

[1:22:32] work. You heard me talking about

[1:22:33] it in the village tonight, but

[1:22:35] one way to weigh issue in the

[1:22:36] village. We put it out there to

[1:22:40] everybody. Not everybody showed

[1:22:41] up. They got all upset. Now we

[1:22:42] are we doing it because people

[1:22:45] didn't seize the opportunity.

[1:22:47] It's like voting, voter turnout.

[1:22:49] If you are given an opportunity

[1:22:51] to express your democratic

[1:22:52] right, please do so. When we go

[1:22:55] to consultation on the RCI or on

[1:22:59] your vision of citizens as the

[1:23:01] future of Pointe-Claire, please

[1:23:02] express yourself. I urge you. I

[1:23:03] beg you to do so.

[1:23:06] >> My second question. We pay a

[1:23:10] lot of city taxes. Sometimes, I

[1:23:12] find some of the expenses have

[1:23:15] been questionable. Like, say,

[1:23:17] for example, I think we are

[1:23:19] still a modest city, about

[1:23:21] 30,000 citizens. For example,

[1:23:24] item 30.08, with a contract.

[1:23:27] This is one example. Every month

[1:23:29] I see stuff. 132,004 services. I

[1:23:37] don't even know what that

[1:23:38] entails. There was an award

[1:23:43] presentation for public works

[1:23:44] staff. There was no professional

[1:23:46] photographer. This is a lot of

[1:23:49] money. A couple months ago,

[1:23:53] there was around $700,000 for a

[1:23:55] computer program. In the past,

[1:23:59] I've seen many attributed for

[1:24:01] Pickleball tables. I've seen

[1:24:02] parks and tables. A little bit

[1:24:06] of cement, or grant I, I'm not

[1:24:08] sure. How is anybody playing on

[1:24:10] them? I find some of these

[1:24:12] expenses are questionable. Why

[1:24:13] are we paying $132,000 for

[1:24:17] photography?

[1:24:20] >> We go through that exercise.

[1:24:21] We did a very recently, all of

[1:24:22] us. Our director of finance

[1:24:27] brought up a bunch of items that

[1:24:28] said, if you had to draw the

[1:24:30] line because of recent increase

[1:24:32] of property values, where would

[1:24:34] we draw the line? It's hard.

[1:24:36] Citizens like a lot of these

[1:24:38] services. Some of these they

[1:24:39] received. Those pingpong tables

[1:24:41] are very appreciated by people.

[1:24:44] Where do we draw the line? It's

[1:24:46] a very good question. It's what

[1:24:50] we are supposed to do, to try to

[1:24:52] balance the books and make sure

[1:24:53] we buy things worth the money --

[1:24:56] if citizens want services and

[1:24:57] don't want them diminished, we

[1:24:58] keep them. If they are too

[1:25:01] expensive, we reduced them.

[1:25:02] That's a tough call. It's a

[1:25:03] really tough call. We brought

[1:25:05] through the exercise. We had a

[1:25:08] pretty serious one last weekend.

[1:25:09] We went through the equations,

[1:25:12] that scenarios of what we would

[1:25:13] cut if we had to. If there were

[1:25:15] things we would reduce.

[1:25:16] >> Sorry to interrupt. $132,000

[1:25:21] for a photographer. The printing

[1:25:26] is even on top of that.

[1:25:28] >> I don't know the specifics of

[1:25:31] that. Mister Seguin, do you have

[1:25:32] any?

[1:25:35] >> Yes, you are correct. It's a

[1:25:36] take all the pictures we use for

[1:25:38] all the various brochures. All

[1:25:42] the publications that the City

[1:25:44] makes during the year. That's an

[1:25:47] annual contract that we give out

[1:25:49] on an annual basis.

[1:25:54] >> It warrants this amount of

[1:25:54] money?

[1:25:57] >> We go and make a call for

[1:26:00] tender and that's the lowest

[1:26:01] bidder that won the contract.

[1:26:05] >> Okay.

[1:26:06] >> That's generally how it's

[1:26:08] done. The irony is that the

[1:26:10] lowest bidder isn't always the

[1:26:11] best way to go. It's a tough

[1:26:12] call. It's a really hard

[1:26:15] decision making process.

[1:26:16] >> We can't give some staff a

[1:26:17] professional camera?

[1:26:21] >> Who knows what's being asked

[1:26:23] and what the photographers --

[1:26:24] who knows what their job

[1:26:26] requires, what the needs are,

[1:26:27] what they are doing. We don't

[1:26:28] know that specifically. We can't

[1:26:32] denigrate them if we don't know

[1:26:33] --

[1:26:34] >> Don't get me wrong. I'm not

[1:26:36] denigrating anybody. I am saying

[1:26:38] in the amount of expense, these

[1:26:39] are just some expenses. Every

[1:26:41] month, I see something else.

[1:26:43] Couple months ago, 700,000 for

[1:26:46] computer programs or software.

[1:26:48] Sometimes just the expenses that

[1:26:50] are way up there.

[1:26:53] >> That is your right. If we

[1:26:57] overspend or you feel we are

[1:26:58] overspending, let us know.

[1:27:00] >> I will come every month and

[1:27:01] --

[1:27:03] >> You can bring them up. That's

[1:27:05] for sure. That's what we are

[1:27:06] here for.

[1:27:07] >> Thank you.

[1:27:08] >> Thank you.

[1:27:28] - Bonjour, mon nom, c'est

[1:27:30] Suzanne Wilson. Moi, je me pose

[1:27:33] la question: le Dean de

[1:27:37] filtration d'eau, ça fait partie

[1:27:40] de l'agglomération de Montréal.

[1:27:42] Alors c'est qui qui prend la

[1:27:44] décision de mettre du fluor dans

[1:27:46] l'eau de Pointe-Claire?

[1:27:47] - C'est l'agglomération qui

[1:27:49] décide ça.

[1:27:50] - L'agglomération de quelle

[1:27:51] ville?

[1:27:52] - De Montréal.

[1:27:53] - De Montréal?

[1:27:54] - C'est l'agglomération de

[1:27:55] Montréal qui décide ce qui se

[1:27:56] passe avec l'eau.

[1:27:57] - Donc, vous vous n'avez pas

[1:28:00] affaire à l'eau du tout quand on

[1:28:01] parle?

[1:28:02] - Pas vraiment, c'est situé sur

[1:28:05] notre, dans notre ville, mais la

[1:28:07] responsabilité pour l'eau, c'est

[1:28:09] l'agglomération de Montréal.

[1:28:11] - Est-ce qu'on paie des taxes,

[1:28:12] nos, pour l'eau fluorée dans nos

[1:28:14] taxes?

[1:28:15] - Bonne question. Monsieur

[1:28:17] Séguin, est-ce que...

[1:28:18] - Tous les coûts concernant la

[1:28:22] distribution de l'eau est payée

[1:28:24] par une quote-part que l'on paie

[1:28:26] à l'agglomération de Montréal.

[1:28:28] - Donc on paye pour?

[1:28:30] - Oui.

[1:28:31] - O.K.. Bien moi, je n'en veux

[1:28:33] pas. Ça donne le cancer de la

[1:28:35] vessie. Moi, j'ai un proche

[1:28:37] parent qui est décédé de ça, il

[1:28:40] a bu de l'eau de 1954 à 1990 est

[1:28:44] déjà à ce moment-là, il disait

[1:28:46] que c'était une possibilité que

[1:28:48] l'eau fluorée donnait le cancer

[1:28:49] de la vessie. Alors moi, je vis

[1:28:53] à Pointe-Claire depuis plusieurs

[1:28:54] années. Ça prend 30 ans pour

[1:28:56] avoir des problèmes? Alors moi,

[1:29:00] je suis dans la controverse, il

[1:29:01] y a une controverse là-dessus et

[1:29:03] on m'oblige à boire cette

[1:29:04] eau-là! C'est contre la

[1:29:07] démocratie. Qu'est-ce que je

[1:29:08] peux faire pour ça?

[1:29:16] - Il faut parler votre... de

[1:29:19] votre décision à tout le monde,

[1:29:20] il faut publier votre opinion.

[1:29:21] - Mais c'est pas mon opinion,

[1:29:23] c'est scientifique.

[1:29:24] (inaudible)

[1:29:26] - Ça change le monde, le monde

[1:29:28] change comme ça.

[1:29:29] - Mais c'est urgent!

[1:29:30] - O.K..

[1:29:31] - On va mourir!

[1:29:32] - Oui.

[1:29:33] - On va avoir plein de

[1:29:34] problèmes! Moi, je n'ose plus

[1:29:36] boire de l'eau, mais je n'ai pas

[1:29:38] le choix, là! Je n'ai pas le

[1:29:40] choix de cuire des aliments. Je

[1:29:41] ne suis Paris a craqué à tout

[1:29:43] laver mes aliments dans l'eau...

[1:29:46] en tout cas...

[1:29:47] - Je suis d'accord, il y a

[1:29:48] beaucoup de choses dans notre

[1:29:49] vie qui sont dangereuses pour

[1:29:51] nous: le soleil est dangereux,

[1:29:53] l'alcool est dangereux aussi, il

[1:29:54] y a des choses dans notre vie...

[1:29:57] oui, je comprends, Madame.

[1:30:00] >> Mr.? Thomas may just add that

[1:30:02] it is not only a Pointe-Claire

[1:30:04] decision. That water is also

[1:30:06] used by other municipalities on

[1:30:07] the West Island. Such as

[1:30:10] Beaconsfield, I believe,

[1:30:13] Dollard, Kirkland. They'll have

[1:30:16] a say as.

[1:30:20] >> And Dorval as. Well hi, my

[1:30:21] name is Angela Clark. I'm also

[1:30:24] here to talk about the

[1:30:26] fluoridation of our water.

[1:30:27] Mister Mayor, you did mention

[1:30:29] that you are not an expert. But

[1:30:32] the head of preventative

[1:30:33] dentistry at the head of

[1:30:35] Toronto, along with the Canadian

[1:30:37] association of physicians for

[1:30:39] the environment, oppose water

[1:30:40] fluoridation. It is true. I was

[1:30:45] disappointed. When Mr. -- came

[1:30:48] up to the microphone, he's been

[1:30:50] working his butt off on this. He

[1:30:53] really has. Right away, you kind

[1:30:54] of -- I felt bullied him a

[1:30:57] little bit. Keep it -- you've

[1:31:01] already mentioned what you had

[1:31:02] to. Say right away, you probably

[1:31:03] forgot what half of what he

[1:31:04] wanted to say. Also, I have here

[1:31:11] the technical data sheet from --

[1:31:15] 2021, where it says exactly what

[1:31:17] you doubted, that there is heavy

[1:31:19] metal, silver and lead in the

[1:31:22] fluoridated water. There is a

[1:31:28] study from jam, us somewhere

[1:31:29] here, that shows the association

[1:31:33] between maternal fluoride

[1:31:34] exposure during pregnancy and IQ

[1:31:36] scores in offspring and in

[1:31:39] Canada. They tested -- from six

[1:31:44] different hospitals across

[1:31:45] Canada. There was a serious

[1:31:48] deficit and IQ from the mothers

[1:31:51] who drink tap water that was

[1:31:53] Florida. My question is why are

[1:31:56] we still paying for fluoridated

[1:31:59] water when we know we have

[1:32:02] fluoridated toothpaste. We know

[1:32:03] how to take care of our teeth

[1:32:04] and our children's teeth now.

[1:32:06] That's my first question. Also,

[1:32:10] Mr. Cohen. You are my counts. In

[1:32:17] your mandate statement, you said

[1:32:19] I want to help bring municipal

[1:32:21] government closer to the

[1:32:22] community. To encourage the

[1:32:25] committees deep involvement in

[1:32:27] their own municipal government.

[1:32:30] I feel, sometimes, that the

[1:32:33] citizens may be disrespected. I

[1:32:36] know, again, like, Mr. quell oh

[1:32:41] and knocked on thousands of

[1:32:44] doors. I've never met you. I've

[1:32:46] never seen you at my door or

[1:32:49] anyone helping you with your

[1:32:51] campaign. But I saw him. His

[1:32:54] passion for this made me

[1:32:57] interested in municipal

[1:32:58] government. I think maybe you

[1:33:00] could write him a letter

[1:33:01] thanking him for doing what you

[1:33:04] said that you want.

[1:33:05] >> May I respond?

[1:33:06] >> I actually went with him

[1:33:09] about a year ago, accompanied

[1:33:11] him as he was gathering

[1:33:12] signatures. I wanted to see how

[1:33:14] he was going about it. I wanted

[1:33:15] to see him -- how he's

[1:33:17] interacting with citizens. I

[1:33:19] wanted to get a sense for when

[1:33:21] citizens were signing the

[1:33:22] petition, where they signing it

[1:33:25] knowingly. I satisfied myself of

[1:33:28] the and gentlemen integrity and

[1:33:33] the honesty of his approach.

[1:33:35] I've been giving a lot of advice

[1:33:36] on how to go about the process

[1:33:40] of direct democracy. I'm sorry I

[1:33:43] never met you. I have knocked on

[1:33:45] a lot of doors in our district.

[1:33:47] Maybe I missed yours or you

[1:33:49] weren't in when I knocked.

[1:33:51] >> Okay. I do appreciate that

[1:33:54] very much. I met him when I was

[1:33:56] a reporter. I am still a

[1:33:57] reporter. I was working with the

[1:33:59] suburban. I am involved in

[1:34:02] federal politics. I help with

[1:34:06] Mr. Francis campaign for two

[1:34:07] time. I'm going to be more

[1:34:09] involved in municipal. I'm

[1:34:14] asking my second question. Will

[1:34:16] you please put this to a vote

[1:34:18] and please hear our voices? If

[1:34:19] you want us involved in our

[1:34:21] community, it's important our

[1:34:23] questions are respected. Thank.

[1:34:25] You

[1:34:26] >> If I --

[1:34:28] [Applause]

[1:34:30] In response to bullying Mr.

[1:34:35] Kahlo, if you followed our

[1:34:37] previous council meetings, I've

[1:34:39] been criticized for letting him

[1:34:43] go on for a long period of time.

[1:34:46] I felt that given my emission

[1:34:50] last time, I thought I would

[1:34:52] level out the playing field a

[1:34:53] bit. His last time at the

[1:34:57] microphone we, he did have a

[1:34:58] very, very fair say.

[1:35:01] >> I apologize for that, then.

[1:35:03] >> I try not to bully. I'm sorry

[1:35:05] if it seemed that way.

[1:35:06] >> I apologize. Maybe that

[1:35:08] wasn't the right word to use. I

[1:35:11] feel there's a division and a

[1:35:13] pressure between Council and its

[1:35:15] citizens. I hope maybe I can

[1:35:19] play a small part in -- if you

[1:35:22] take volunteers. Anyway, we will

[1:35:23] talk about that and the time.

[1:35:25] Thank you for your time.

[1:35:26] >> Thanks very much.

[1:35:41] >> Good evening ladies and

[1:35:42] gentlemen. My name is --

[1:35:47] district seven. I learned in

[1:35:52] business University, a

[1:35:59] relationship built on trust,

[1:36:04] honesty and respect. Honesty,

[1:36:09] trust, and respect. That's any

[1:36:13] business, a relationship built

[1:36:14] in that will be a success. Why

[1:36:19] I'm here? I want my wife when --

[1:36:22] we have a duty. When we choose

[1:36:25] to come live in Pointe-Claire 30

[1:36:26] years ago, it was my wife who

[1:36:32] choose it for a green

[1:36:35] environment, good neighbourhood,

[1:36:36] and safe, good school. Good

[1:36:42] daycare. Good library. Good

[1:36:45] sport. Facility. That's why we

[1:36:51] chose to come here and raise for

[1:36:52] kids. They all graduated

[1:36:57] engineer and they success. Not

[1:37:02] only good parents to take care

[1:37:03] of them. No. Because they are

[1:37:06] born and they grow up in

[1:37:08] Pointe-Claire. That's my duty.

[1:37:10] Me and my wife will come here to

[1:37:11] always defend the citizen of

[1:37:16] Pointe-Claire and the future

[1:37:17] citizen. That's what your kids

[1:37:20] and grandkids. Please, don't be

[1:37:25] divided. The United. To help the

[1:37:31] citizen of Pointe-Claire and the

[1:37:32] future. When I drive through

[1:37:38] Hymus, the west of St. John,

[1:37:41] it's almost like a downtown now.

[1:37:43] I don't know how people -- we

[1:37:46] elect in 2018 mayor ran for

[1:37:54] citizens first. Six of you, you

[1:38:02] with him, accept every decision

[1:38:04] he's doing it.

[1:38:07] >> Point of order, please. That

[1:38:09] is incorrect. Thank you.

[1:38:13] >> So, please. Hi Miss was --

[1:38:17] did anybody try to drive there?

[1:38:21] The same building what all that

[1:38:24] goes in in your street or

[1:38:26] district, how are you going to

[1:38:27] feel? Are you going to feel

[1:38:29] well? Please! Try to reverse old

[1:38:37] bad decision that happened in

[1:38:39] the last four years. Why are you

[1:38:41] giving special treatment for

[1:38:48] contractor or developer. Why?

[1:38:51] >> Point of order. That is

[1:38:52] incorrect. It is also

[1:38:55] denigrating.

[1:38:58] >> What is the question? There

[1:39:00] is an answer to this.

[1:39:01] >> My question for this city

[1:39:05] council from the previous

[1:39:07] administration, are you going to

[1:39:09] try to help and stop the high

[1:39:11] rise buildings and condo?

[1:39:15] >> Sir. If I could just say, I'm

[1:39:17] not a huge fan of Hymus West

[1:39:19] either. That happened long

[1:39:20] before the past administration.

[1:39:23] Hymus West was started a long,

[1:39:25] long time ago. I concur with

[1:39:28] your decision. It was before the

[1:39:30] last administration that the

[1:39:33] project was approved and

[1:39:34] started.

[1:39:35] >> Can we stop it? Everybody is

[1:39:36] just blaming the one before.

[1:39:40] That's not my question. Why?

[1:39:42] >> It's a cumulative process. We

[1:39:45] all learn and evolve and come

[1:39:47] with different solutions. You

[1:39:48] know, I think Hymus West is an

[1:39:52] example of maybe where we don't

[1:39:54] want to head. It was decided

[1:39:57] quite a while ago, that project

[1:39:58] was approved. If they start

[1:40:01] happening --

[1:40:02] >> I understand.

[1:40:04] >> We are responsible for the

[1:40:05] ones happening now.

[1:40:06] >> I understand. We have to stop

[1:40:07] it.

[1:40:08] >> We are trying. We are trying.

[1:40:12] >> Some green space -- the green

[1:40:16] space already all put it in

[1:40:18] white.

[1:40:19] >> In fairness, and there is an

[1:40:22] interim control measure on the

[1:40:24] Fairview forest. There has been

[1:40:26] some work done to do exactly

[1:40:27] what you are suggesting. We are

[1:40:30] all part of that.

[1:40:33] >> It's our duty for the city,

[1:40:35] for our kids and future.

[1:40:37] >> Clearly, the actions show

[1:40:39] that maybe that's shared. Maybe

[1:40:41] that's where we are headed going

[1:40:43] forward.

[1:40:44] >> City Council, they going to

[1:40:45] correct all that?

[1:40:48] >> We are going to do our best,

[1:40:49] I hope.

[1:40:51] >> Please!

[1:40:54] >> Sort of what we are trying to

[1:40:55] do, I think. We are about to

[1:40:57] come out with an urban plan.

[1:41:01] >> My teacher used to tell us,

[1:41:05] the animal, they used to control

[1:41:06] it, you have to fight it. But

[1:41:10] humans, they get tied by what

[1:41:12] they say and what they do.

[1:41:14] That's how they get respect and

[1:41:16] how they get tied by what they

[1:41:17] say and they do. Please, God

[1:41:20] bless you. Do the right thing.

[1:41:22] >> Thank you. I appreciate that.

[1:41:25] We shall. We will try.

[1:41:34] Yeah.

[1:41:35] >> I don't want to mess around.

[1:41:39] Perfect. My question is with

[1:41:44] regards to 10.11.

[1:41:47] >> Can you state your name for

[1:41:49] the minutes, first?

[1:41:50] >> It's Thomas shorts from

[1:41:51] period.

[1:41:56] >> Excuse me. You've been

[1:41:59] entitled to speak when it comes

[1:42:00] up. Minor exemption. You are

[1:42:01] entitled to speak.

[1:42:04] >> I will use of this time,

[1:42:05] then. My question is, if this

[1:42:09] plant is online, so that way I

[1:42:12] can see what the access would

[1:42:15] look like. 15 metres is almost

[1:42:19] 50 feet. That's really wide for

[1:42:21] a driveway. I just wanted to

[1:42:23] know, if I look at the plans

[1:42:26] online -- I don't know if these

[1:42:27] plans are online, I just want to

[1:42:29] see what it looks like for the

[1:42:30] house. That's my back neighbour.

[1:42:34] >> Okay. Councillor Stork, would

[1:42:37] you like to respond?

[1:42:38] >> If I'm not mistaken, Kelly

[1:42:40] would you like to reply? If I'm

[1:42:45] not mistaken, what happens

[1:42:46] sometimes, again, I'm pretty

[1:42:48] sure, not 100 percent, is that

[1:42:50] sometimes it's the total with.

[1:42:53] Maybe something where it starts

[1:42:54] off at 20 feet -- it turns out

[1:42:56] for some reason there is a

[1:42:57] collapse or something. Total

[1:43:00] with might be 50 metres. The

[1:43:03] actual entrance itself is a

[1:43:06] standard 20 feet, 1.6 metres. If

[1:43:09] I come out and bulge out around

[1:43:11] the house, there will be full

[1:43:13] distance.

[1:43:14] >> This one says access.

[1:43:16] >> Access land, yeah. That's

[1:43:18] probably the access --

[1:43:21] >> I'm going to add, I believe

[1:43:23] this is the house that the

[1:43:24] driveway was already in

[1:43:26] existence. They are not creating

[1:43:27] it. They're trying to get that

[1:43:28] minor exemption to approve what

[1:43:30] was in existence before they

[1:43:31] bought the house. At one point,

[1:43:34] higher up, near the house, it is

[1:43:36] widening. But at the base where

[1:43:38] it goes out onto the street,

[1:43:39] it's less wide. It also already

[1:43:42] exists. They are asking to do

[1:43:44] it. They are just trying to get

[1:43:46] it regulated. In addition, there

[1:43:48] was a recommendation from

[1:43:49] Planning Advisory to add a few

[1:43:51] extra trees on the property

[1:43:53] because there is additional

[1:43:55] asphalt for the -- it's possible

[1:43:58] to add bushes or trees to

[1:44:01] offset, a net positive green

[1:44:03] gain. That's the net positive

[1:44:05] environment.

[1:44:06] >> So, then, this would mean

[1:44:08] that after this was spoken at

[1:44:10] Council, it would be passed?

[1:44:14] >> They are asking us to approve

[1:44:16] what -- we will vote on that

[1:44:18] tonight. If we agree, or if we

[1:44:20] are going to ask them to remove

[1:44:22] their pathway.

[1:44:23] >> Right. Okay. Then I would be

[1:44:24] able to have seen what that

[1:44:25] looks like before.

[1:44:27] >> We are not allowed to give

[1:44:28] you plans of peoples individual

[1:44:30] homes. The house exists. You can

[1:44:31] drive by the house.

[1:44:33] >> I'm curious. I got a letter

[1:44:34] in the mail saying this is

[1:44:36] happening. I was like, oh, okay.

[1:44:38] I don't even know.

[1:44:39] >> You can drive by. But also,

[1:44:41] if there is people's personal

[1:44:42] plans, we aren't legally allowed

[1:44:43] to put those on for people to

[1:44:45] evaluate.

[1:44:46] >> This means this already

[1:44:47] exists?

[1:44:49] >> Yes. It already exists. They

[1:44:51] are not creating it.

[1:44:52] >> Cool. That's what I wanted to

[1:44:53] note. Thank you.

[1:44:54] >> There is a certain amount of

[1:44:57] minor exemptions that we don't

[1:44:58] state them as maybe we should

[1:45:00] state them in the existing

[1:45:02] conditions rectified. If you

[1:45:03] sell your house or something of

[1:45:04] that nature, if you are in

[1:45:06] violation of your purchase,

[1:45:08] these are people who discovered

[1:45:09] something wrong when the house

[1:45:11] was built ten, 20, 30 years ago.

[1:45:13] Now they want to rectify the

[1:45:14] situation.

[1:45:15] >> Cool. Thank you.

[1:45:19] >> Yeah. Hi. My name is David

[1:45:21] Friedman. My question is about

[1:45:29] what can the City do -- and it's

[1:45:35] a safety question, maybe of

[1:45:36] interest to you Councillor Stork

[1:45:42] -- about pedestrian crossings.

[1:45:45] Because it's been my

[1:45:47] observation, and many others on

[1:45:52] Facebook, on the Facebook news

[1:45:55] group, news and discussion

[1:45:58] group, that our pedestrian

[1:46:01] crossings are not being

[1:46:04] recognized by drivers and not

[1:46:05] being respected. The other day,

[1:46:13] I was -- I stopped at a

[1:46:16] pedestrian crossing on lakeshore

[1:46:18] road, I'm going to Edgewater

[1:46:26] park to let a little girl and

[1:46:28] her mother across the street. At

[1:46:31] least four cars passed the other

[1:46:35] way. Only when I started honking

[1:46:40] my horn did cars stop. There

[1:46:46] seems to be a grave

[1:46:51] misunderstanding about what one

[1:46:54] does at a pedestrian crossing.

[1:46:58] What I was told when I went to

[1:47:01] driving school was, you are

[1:47:02] supposed to slow down. You're

[1:47:06] always to slow down when

[1:47:09] approaching a pedestrian

[1:47:10] crossing. And then, if a

[1:47:14] pedestrian is there, you give

[1:47:15] the right of way to the

[1:47:17] pedestrian. Otherwise, you roll

[1:47:18] through. But no one is slowing

[1:47:20] down. My question is, shouldn't

[1:47:25] we be replacing these pedestrian

[1:47:33] cross walks with stop lines and

[1:47:35] science? I think this is what

[1:47:41] should be done at that

[1:47:44] particular one. I don't think we

[1:47:50] want to get in a situation where

[1:47:56] in some areas I think it's okay

[1:47:58] to have lights and buttons for

[1:48:04] pedestrians to push. But if you

[1:48:05] are on a bike or if you are a

[1:48:11] little kid crossing a crosswalk

[1:48:12] to go to school or go to play in

[1:48:15] a park, I don't think we should

[1:48:20] expect everyone to go hit a

[1:48:24] light and therefore the onus is

[1:48:27] being placed on the pedestrian.

[1:48:30] It's the driver of the cars that

[1:48:33] get licenses.

[1:48:36] >> And they are the ones that

[1:48:39] are supposed to be respecting

[1:48:42] the rules of the road and

[1:48:44] watching the traffic all the

[1:48:46] time. Not the little kids.

[1:48:50] >> If I'm going to respond,

[1:48:52] hopefully that's okay, because

[1:48:53] he is taken my spot on the

[1:48:56] traffic committee, but for my

[1:48:58] eight years first to years of as

[1:48:59] a councillors on the traffic

[1:49:01] committee, and this is one of

[1:49:02] the number one complaints that

[1:49:05] we have received for safety

[1:49:07] issues. We have thrown the whole

[1:49:10] kitchen sink at this problem. We

[1:49:14] have done different reminders of

[1:49:16] how to drive properly in our

[1:49:18] newsletters and those of us who

[1:49:20] delivered personal newsletters

[1:49:21] every year, reminders, here's

[1:49:23] how to drive through a

[1:49:25] roundabout properly, respect

[1:49:27] pedestrians, monitor speeding,

[1:49:28] if you have noticed our

[1:49:29] campaigns for the signs we tried

[1:49:31] the no speeding campaign signs.

[1:49:34] Stop at stop signs signs. We

[1:49:36] have discussed it at length and

[1:49:38] every costs council meeting.

[1:49:40] When you leave this room, please

[1:49:42] drive properly, please stop and

[1:49:43] stop signs, drive the speed

[1:49:44] limit, and please respect

[1:49:46] pedestrians. Because it all

[1:49:47] starts with each of us. I

[1:49:49] honestly think it's going to

[1:49:51] need a Québec driving culture

[1:49:52] change and we need to start with

[1:49:53] going into the schools. The

[1:49:55] police have started it and

[1:49:56] teaching the new young drivers

[1:49:58] to drive properly. You go to

[1:50:02] Alberta or Nova Scotia or in the

[1:50:04] States, they stop on your five

[1:50:06] you'd way from that crosswalk.

[1:50:08] We've tried different things. To

[1:50:14] try to degrees the speed in the

[1:50:16] middle of the, when the summer

[1:50:19] months are up. But I do want to

[1:50:23] caution that in the literature

[1:50:24] this adding a stop sign, one,

[1:50:25] it's not why you add a stop sign

[1:50:27] is to just to protect across

[1:50:29] work, because it gives a false

[1:50:30] sense of security. The perfect

[1:50:32] example is on King and St.

[1:50:34] Louis, there's a stop sign

[1:50:35] there, nobody respects it. Oh a

[1:50:39] stop sign, I can walk on this

[1:50:41] car crosswalk. -- I

[1:50:42] >> Think people respect car stop

[1:50:44] signs were the grass walks.

[1:50:46] >> On traffic committee they do

[1:50:47] not. I'm telling you what we

[1:50:48] have done. But you know what,

[1:50:50] it's really beyond this council

[1:50:51] to say, because we don't have a

[1:50:53] magic wand to change how

[1:50:54] everyone drives. I will say

[1:50:56] again, when you drive home

[1:50:57] tonight, stop at sob signs,

[1:50:59] drive slow, respect pedestrians,

[1:51:02] and we're gonna educate the

[1:51:04] younger generation. It's not

[1:51:05] that we don't care. We've put

[1:51:07] everything out there. If you

[1:51:08] have any constructive ideas of

[1:51:09] how we can do, it absolutely.

[1:51:12] Let us know.

[1:51:13] >> How about -- development in

[1:51:16] Pointe-Claire?

[1:51:17] >> No it's not separate. It's

[1:51:20] completely related. It's related

[1:51:22] to the question, if you add

[1:51:25] density --

[1:51:26] >> A security question, thank.

[1:51:27] You

[1:51:28] >> If you add density and you're

[1:51:32] adding population to the city

[1:51:33] and our streets become busier,

[1:51:36] we, Council can't throw its

[1:51:38] hands in the air and say, this

[1:51:41] is Québec's problem.

[1:51:43] >> I'm sorry, not throwing my

[1:51:44] hands in the air, just

[1:51:46] explaining to you and, you're

[1:51:48] not being very respectful to

[1:51:50] anything I've said.

[1:51:51] >> Is there another question, or

[1:51:53] do you have a question in there?

[1:51:55] >> Yes. There is another

[1:51:57] question. The other question is,

[1:52:01] isn't the increasing the

[1:52:03] population of Pointe-Claire at

[1:52:06] the rate that we are increasing

[1:52:08] it by, tied to this problem that

[1:52:12] we are having with but becoming

[1:52:22] unsafe in this city for

[1:52:24] pedestrians to walk around. I am

[1:52:28] wondering, can Council do

[1:52:32] anything to increase ticketing,

[1:52:38] and what level of tickets are

[1:52:44] fines going up, or is less

[1:52:49] ticketing going on?

[1:52:51] >> Look, it's not a question of,

[1:52:54] the police are always. There

[1:52:56] I've had a one night crusade on

[1:52:58] car safety for 23 years now. A

[1:53:01] stop sign in from a house gets

[1:53:03] blown off all the time. This is

[1:53:07] something that is going on

[1:53:08] everywhere. My personal solution

[1:53:11] for a lot of this is, for

[1:53:16] exactly what you are speaking

[1:53:17] to. Is public transit and fewer

[1:53:19] automobiles on the road. One of

[1:53:22] my issues is that, and that's

[1:53:24] again, the agglomeration, to try

[1:53:27] and work better but public

[1:53:31] transit in the city of

[1:53:32] Pointe-Claire so we have fewer

[1:53:34] cars and professionals were

[1:53:36] driving buses and metros who

[1:53:38] aren't rushing to get somewhere

[1:53:40] all the time. They're on a

[1:53:44] schedule.

[1:53:45] >> So there are fewer cars in

[1:53:49] Pointe-Claire as the years go

[1:53:50] by.

[1:53:51] >> We should try to have few

[1:53:53] public cars and more public

[1:53:55] transit.

[1:53:56] >> And more pedestrians are

[1:53:58] stuck because they can't cross

[1:54:00] the road to catch the bus. Or

[1:54:03] they can't cross the road on

[1:54:05] their bicycle.

[1:54:08] >> Again, that police

[1:54:09] enforcement.

[1:54:10] >> Can Council do anything?

[1:54:14] >> We are certainly not without

[1:54:16] saying so all the time on a

[1:54:18] constant basis.

[1:54:20] >> Mr. Thomas, may I just add

[1:54:21] something? But

[1:54:24] >> Pointe-Claire itself is not

[1:54:25] allowed to issue any tickets for

[1:54:27] moving violations. Only the

[1:54:29] SPVM. The best thing to do is

[1:54:32] email or call, not 9-1-1, but

[1:54:35] the police station. When they

[1:54:38] receive a complaint they will

[1:54:39] put a police officer at that

[1:54:42] location to ticket. I would

[1:54:44] highly recommend doing that

[1:54:45] because we don't have control

[1:54:47] over moving violations, nor do

[1:54:49] we control the amount of the

[1:54:52] fines related to moving

[1:54:54] violation. That's all SPVM and

[1:54:57] Montréal. It's not

[1:54:58] Pointe-Claire. We do not,

[1:55:00] unfortunately, have that power.

[1:55:03] So in that sense I just wanted

[1:55:05] to clarify that we don't control

[1:55:07] the police here. We have a

[1:55:09] relationship with the police

[1:55:11] department. There are police

[1:55:12] that sit on our traffic

[1:55:14] committee. They are aware of

[1:55:18] problematic areas that the

[1:55:20] Council and the mayor make them

[1:55:21] aware of. But we ask citizens to

[1:55:24] also be proactive in contracting

[1:55:27] contacting the police station

[1:55:29] and letting them know where the

[1:55:31] problematic areas are. If the

[1:55:33] stop sign in front of your

[1:55:34] house, that speaks to your

[1:55:35] point, as well, that we don't

[1:55:36] you stop signs to create safe

[1:55:39] crossings. But also, call the

[1:55:42] SPVM and let them know so that

[1:55:43] they can put a police officer

[1:55:45] there. And you know, a ticket

[1:55:49] only lasts, only effects of

[1:55:50] person for three months. That's

[1:55:51] what the data shows. So it will

[1:55:53] be a recurring thing that you

[1:55:54] will have to do. But that's one

[1:55:56] of the most proactive ways that

[1:55:58] you can, as if citizen as well,

[1:56:03] implicate yourself with an

[1:56:04] issue.

[1:56:05] >> Okay, thank you for your

[1:56:08] suggestions.

[1:56:09] >> We're not going to keep going

[1:56:10] on this. Is there another

[1:56:12] debate?

[1:56:13] >> No. Just a final thought.

[1:56:16] From what I understand, you are

[1:56:18] saying that the onus is on

[1:56:21] residents and Council --

[1:56:24] >> No, that's not what's being

[1:56:26] said.

[1:56:27] >> That's the eight years of

[1:56:29] work that we've been doing.

[1:56:30] We've already been doing eight

[1:56:31] years of. It's a shared

[1:56:34] responsibility. I explained to

[1:56:36] you, to reassure you, of all the

[1:56:37] work that we do and still

[1:56:39] continue to do. But we just

[1:56:41] recognize it's a shared

[1:56:42] responsibility.

[1:56:43] >> The situation is actually

[1:56:47] deteriorating.

[1:56:48] >> Gave you the perfect

[1:56:50] opportunity to go to those areas

[1:56:52] and try to help.

[1:56:53] >> So it's up to me to call the

[1:56:56] police to report an intersection

[1:56:58] that I think is --

[1:57:01] >> If the officers call, if we

[1:57:03] are made aware, we call.

[1:57:05] >> We are all alerting the

[1:57:07] police all the time with the

[1:57:08] problem areas in the city. We

[1:57:10] are.

[1:57:11] >> The whole city is a problem

[1:57:13] area for pedestrians for

[1:57:15] crossing the street. Train

[1:57:19] stations, parks, schools.

[1:57:23] >> Okay, thanks.

[1:57:24] >> Thank you.

[1:57:37] Hello. Good evening ladies and

[1:57:39] gentlemen

[1:57:40] >>. This

[1:57:41] >> Is my first attendance.

[1:57:42] >> Excuse, me can you first

[1:57:44] state your name?

[1:57:45] >> If you want me to spell it I

[1:57:48] will. Adam A R W A when, and

[1:57:52] family name C H A T I L a. I'm

[1:58:06] living in Pointe-Claire --

[1:58:09] excuse me, could you refrain

[1:58:12] from discussing what someone

[1:58:13] else is asking a question?

[1:58:14] >> I started building in

[1:58:17] Pointe-Claire since four months

[1:58:18] in the Valois area. I think this

[1:58:21] is the district three, if I'm

[1:58:25] not mistaken. And I was living

[1:58:29] 30 years ago in Pointe-Claire. I

[1:58:35] worked in Dubai and the Middle

[1:58:37] East for 30 years and then I

[1:58:38] came back to Pointe-Claire

[1:58:41] because it is a deer area to me.

[1:58:44] Next to the sea, I call it C,

[1:58:47] even though it's just water, and

[1:58:50] this is where 30 years ago my

[1:58:53] two children were born in

[1:58:56] Lakeshore hospital. So I left 30

[1:59:00] years and I came back to the

[1:59:05] same source. We appreciate your

[1:59:09] efforts and import, all of you.

[1:59:14] I am here for two topics,

[1:59:16] followed by two questions. My

[1:59:22] prime priority topic is water.

[1:59:25] It's a very serious issue. Even

[1:59:29] if it is finished by the City of

[1:59:32] Montréal and even if we don't

[1:59:34] want to compare ourselves to

[1:59:37] others and we say the whole area

[1:59:40] or cities around us are using

[1:59:42] the same.

[2:01:59] In other words, feminism and

[2:02:02] environmentalism are huge issues

[2:02:04] that took over our world and it

[2:02:06] started, was led by the, people

[2:02:07] not by government. Governments

[2:02:09] responded, but the public will

[2:02:10] is the most powerful thing in

[2:02:12] the world, and if you think your

[2:02:16] issue is something that will

[2:02:19] take hold. --

[2:02:30] >> Personally, I don't have

[2:02:31] time, neither me, neither the

[2:02:34] other citizens, to make a

[2:02:36] coalition, to make

[2:02:37] demonstrations, and to go object

[2:02:41] at ministries. We need your

[2:02:43] support. We need a clear plan of

[2:02:50] action with a timetable, how

[2:02:53] this issue will be resolved A S

[2:02:56] A P.

[2:02:57] >> You can help with that plan

[2:02:59] and timetable, sir. There is no

[2:03:01] reason why you can't. There's no

[2:03:02] reason why you can't.

[2:03:04] >> Because I have other personal

[2:03:12] issues. I can dedicate all my

[2:03:15] time with a few citizens for

[2:03:17] this issue. I need the support

[2:03:21] of the Council of my city, which

[2:03:22] is called Pointe-Claire.

[2:03:24] >> We have studied the issue, we

[2:03:26] have already looked, at it and

[2:03:27] it is becoming a more prominent

[2:03:29] issue in Pointe-Claire, for

[2:03:30] sure.

[2:03:31] >> Are there some actions taken

[2:03:33] at least, about the action taken

[2:03:35] and what is expected?

[2:03:36] >> We have exchanged the

[2:03:38] science, all of, us in emails.

[2:03:39] We have all talked about. It

[2:03:41] >> Emails?

[2:03:42] >> We are all evaluating issue

[2:03:43] and trying to resolve where

[2:03:46] we're going.

[2:03:47] >> Is there a printed about the

[2:03:51] progress of these actions to be

[2:03:54] taken?

[2:03:55] >> No. They will be voted on.

[2:03:57] >> If you are in district 3,

[2:04:02] feel free to contact me and I

[2:04:03] will for you the links to the

[2:04:08] systematic review. Every

[2:04:10] scientific based research is

[2:04:11] taken into account that has been

[2:04:14] produced on the fluoride topic,

[2:04:15] item by item, to evaluate what

[2:04:17] is being said. You can go ahead

[2:04:21] -- Mr. Kellogg has shared with

[2:04:23] us information, other systems

[2:04:24] have shared with us different

[2:04:26] links to some of the different

[2:04:28] evidence that is out there as

[2:04:30] well as some of the information

[2:04:33] from dentists in the area. I

[2:04:34] will share all that I have with

[2:04:35] you so we know what we are

[2:04:36] looking at.

[2:04:37] >> Thank you, but are these

[2:04:41] matters to be shared, are they

[2:04:44] putting the whole issue

[2:04:47] questionable --

[2:04:49] >> Now, it's research that is

[2:04:51] there.

[2:04:52] >> A way to provide safe water?

[2:04:54] >> You see, it goes line by line

[2:04:55] of every issue related to

[2:04:57] fluoridation and so we are

[2:04:58] taking people's opinions and

[2:05:00] then we will bring it back to

[2:05:01] caucus and then at one point we

[2:05:05] will reach out to decide whether

[2:05:07] we are satisfied, it's all being

[2:05:09] taken into consideration..

[2:05:16] >> You had a few questions on

[2:05:18] this. You have two is there

[2:05:22] another question

[2:05:26] >> Concerning the ecological

[2:05:32] site. Searchers have been done

[2:05:37] and is there any continuation

[2:05:39] for this to do more digging, to

[2:05:44] do more discoveries, or is it

[2:05:47] just up there?

[2:05:48] >> Good question. Mid

[2:05:54] >> To be honest I know all the

[2:05:56] work has been completed and so

[2:05:59] far, from what I heard, and I

[2:06:02] don't think they were major

[2:06:05] findings because such a site has

[2:06:08] a lot of layers underneath.

[2:06:11] >> It's in the hands of

[2:06:13] professionals.

[2:06:14] >> And this is education and

[2:06:16] history and museum.

[2:06:19] >> It's not driven by the

[2:06:21] municipality of Pointe-Claire.

[2:06:23] It is totally independent. It is

[2:06:25] done by professionals.

[2:06:27] >> Yeah, I know. I know. But is

[2:06:31] it stopped or is it a continuous

[2:06:34] progress? As much as I searched,

[2:06:37] they will find more and more?

[2:06:38] >> The work has been, I think,

[2:06:41] completed. They are satisfied

[2:06:43] with what they have.

[2:06:46] >> Thank you sir.

[2:06:47] >> Okay.

[2:06:50] >> Thank you. Well,

[2:07:06] , 10.01, I believe?. Avis de

[2:07:14] motion et dépôt de projets de

[2:07:16] Règlement d'un emprunt à long

[2:07:17] terme et d'une dépensant

[2:07:19] mobilisation de 5 millions

[2:07:21] 925000 dollars pour des travaux

[2:07:23] d'infrastructures municipale à

[2:07:25] divers endroits de serveurs

[2:07:26] résidentiels. Les travaux visés

[2:07:28] entre autres la construction et

[2:07:30] la reconstruction, la réfection,

[2:07:33] la réhabilitation de trottoirs

[2:07:34] en bordure, dans les structures

[2:07:35] de béton, viaducs, pistes

[2:07:38] cyclables et service de type de

[2:07:41] conduite d'eau, sanitaires et

[2:07:42] pluviales

[2:07:43] (inaudible)

[2:07:44] (---)

[2:07:45] . Un des travaux connexes de

[2:07:46] même que la main-d'oeuvre à

[2:07:48] capacités

[2:07:49] (inaudible)

[2:07:50] (---)

[2:07:51] . Du secteur résidentiel de la

[2:07:52] Ville, le montant a financé

[2:07:54] remboursés par le billet d'une

[2:07:56] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

[2:07:58] municipalité sur la base de la

[2:08:00] valeur foncière des immeubles

[2:08:02] imposables, et ce, sur une

[2:08:03] période de 20 ans.

[2:08:13] Of Highway 40, between Bancroft

[2:08:16] and comes the avenues, in

[2:08:19] industrial sector as well as

[2:08:20] long term borrowing in the

[2:08:22] amount of $1,610,000. The work

[2:08:28] targeted is in this project will

[2:08:30] improve the quality of the

[2:08:32] drinking water main in this

[2:08:35] industrial sector of the city of

[2:08:36] Pointe-Claire. This will greatly

[2:08:39] improve its structural capacity

[2:08:41] and water quality. The amount to

[2:08:43] be financed will be repaid to a

[2:08:45] local improvement tax over a

[2:08:48] 20-year period. But

[2:09:13] ... Mobilier, urbain,

[2:09:15] équipements de jeu, pistes

[2:09:16] cyclables, clôture, berge, plein

[2:09:19] tous partir, Denis, un droit de

[2:09:22] (---)

[2:09:23] etc.. Le montant a financé sera

[2:09:25] remboursé par le billet d'une

[2:09:26] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

[2:09:29] municipalité sur la base de la

[2:09:31] valeur foncière des immeubles

[2:09:34] imposables, et ce, sur une

[2:09:35] période de 20 ans.

[2:09:37] >>

[2:09:38] Ten or four notices of motion

[2:09:39] filing of drab bylaw decreeing

[2:09:40] the existing execution of phase

[2:09:41] one of the Public Works Building

[2:09:43] extension, as well as long term

[2:09:45] borrowing in the amount of 5

[2:09:47] million, $500,000. The Public

[2:09:51] Works building innovation

[2:09:52] project involves the

[2:09:54] construction of six new bays and

[2:09:56] service spaces for mechanical

[2:09:59] sports shop and delivery dock,

[2:10:01] expansion of the outdated rooms,

[2:10:05] relocation and we moulding in

[2:10:07] the and electrical plumbing

[2:10:10] spaces rebuilding of the office

[2:10:11] space and addition and

[2:10:14] integration of universal

[2:10:16] accessibility the. Amount to be

[2:10:18] financed will be reimbursed

[2:10:20] through a tax levied on the

[2:10:22] entire municipality based, on

[2:10:23] property value of taxable

[2:10:25] buildings over a period of 20

[2:10:27] years.

[2:10:28] 10.05 Avis de motion et dépôt

[2:10:29] d'un projet de règlement

[2:10:30] décrétant un emprunt à long

[2:10:31] terme et une dépense en

[2:10:32] immobilisations de 3265000 $

[2:10:33] pour des travaux de

[2:10:34] reconstruction dans le chemin du

[2:10:36] Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore, entre

[2:10:38] Coolbreeze et Lakeview. Dans le

[2:10:43] cadre d'un projet majeur de la

[2:10:44] Ville de Montréal qui s'étalera

[2:10:46] sur une période de plusieurs

[2:10:50] années et où ils construiront un

[2:10:53] aqueduc de 900 millimètres de

[2:10:55] diamètre selon deux tracés

[2:10:57] spécifiques touchant notre

[2:10:58] municipalité, nous en profitons

[2:11:00] pour réintégrer nos besoins en

[2:11:01] infrastructures. Le but de ce

[2:11:02] projet est de remplacer des

[2:11:05] conduites d'aqueduc, d'égouts

[2:11:06] sanitaires et pluviales,

[2:11:08] reconstruire l'aborder de la

[2:11:09] chaussure et uniquement si cela

[2:11:11] est approprié. Le montant

[2:11:13] financé sera remboursé par le

[2:11:15] billet d'une taxe imposée à la

[2:11:16] valeur de la municipalité...

[2:11:17] pardon, à l'ensemble de la

[2:11:19] municipalité à hauteur de la

[2:11:21] valeur des immeubles

[2:11:22] >> Do I have someone who can

[2:11:23] imposables et give ce, pour une

[2:11:24] valeur... notice of d'une durée

[2:11:26] de 20 ans. Motion for 10.01

[2:11:28] Two 10.05? I

[2:11:29] >> Give notice of motion for

[2:11:33] filing of 10.01 two 10.05 team.

[2:11:38] 10.06 Adoption, avec

[2:11:39] modification, d'un règlement

[2:11:40] décrétant les tarifs exigibles

[2:11:41] pour le financement de biens,

[2:11:42] services et activités offerts

[2:11:43] par la Ville de Pointe-Claire

[2:11:44] pour l'exercice financier 2023.

[2:11:50] Donc c'est l'adoption ce soir,

[2:11:53] suite au dépôt du projet qui a

[2:11:55] eu lieu à la séance régulière de

[2:11:56] septembre, une modification a

[2:11:59] été apportée entre le projet

[2:12:01] déposé et l'adoption de ce soir,

[2:12:04] donc l'ajout à l'annexe un d'un

[2:12:06] élément qui s'intitule: frais

[2:12:09] exigible lorsqu'un employé de la

[2:12:10] Ville doit se déplacer pour lire

[2:12:13] un compteur d'eau en raison

[2:12:14] d'une installation non conforme

[2:12:16] du compteur d'eau, frais requis

[2:12:18] de 100 dollars.

[2:12:19] >> Do I have a mover?

[2:12:26] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:12:28] district 3.

[2:12:32] >>

[2:12:33] - O.K., excuse, je m'excuse.

[2:12:42] 10.07 an architectural

[2:12:44] integration plan. Building of

[2:12:46] heritage interest. 72 brought to

[2:12:48] you and the new, exterior event

[2:12:50] renovations, 105 Prince Edward

[2:12:53] Avenue, construction of a double

[2:12:57] garage enlargement of driveway.

[2:13:00] When 18 Broadway Avenue,

[2:13:02] replacing existing driveway,

[2:13:04] 1:50 to, like four road,

[2:13:07] extension and renovations, nine

[2:13:09] cavil Avenue extension and

[2:13:12] renovation.

[2:13:14] >> Do I have a mover?

[2:13:20] >> Cynthia Homan,

[2:13:21] - Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[2:13:22] District district 5.

[2:13:23] >> All in favour?

[2:13:25] Les personnes présentes peuvent

[2:13:26] s'adresser au conseil concernant

[2:13:27] les sujets ci-dessous pour les

[2:13:28] items 10.08 à 10.12:

[2:13:35] >> Here under from the items

[2:13:39] 10.09 to

[2:13:46] 10.12. Il n'y. A plus de micro?

[2:13:53] - Excuse-moi, Patrick. Patrick,

[2:13:55] dû the

[2:13:56] Remettre le... merci, Patrick.

[2:14:00] Peux-tu remettre le...

[2:14:06] - François leur, complexe

[2:14:09] Pointe-Claire, sur la rue

[2:14:10] Saint-Jean. On a fait une

[2:14:12] demande de rénovation mineure,

[2:14:14] honnêtement, je ne suis jamais

[2:14:15] venu aux séances, je ne suis pas

[2:14:16] sûr de comment ça fonctionne. Je

[2:14:18] crois qu'on m'a donné une

[2:14:19] lettre, je crois que vous allez

[2:14:20] avoir des suggestions ou des

[2:14:22] recommandations pour

[2:14:24] l'approbation... non, je pensais

[2:14:25] que vous étiez pour intervenir,

[2:14:27] excusez-moi! Donc je voulais

[2:14:29] juste... dire un peu plus que...

[2:14:32] dans un cas comme on présente ce

[2:14:33] soir, le 755 ces gens, qui est

[2:14:36] de pouvoir afficher un de nos

[2:14:38] locateurs majeur dans l'édifice,

[2:14:39] c'est vraiment important pour

[2:14:42] notre business et notre façon de

[2:14:44] travailler, leur façon de

[2:14:45] travailler, on a souvent des

[2:14:47] problèmes sur le fait que la

[2:14:48] plupart de nos locataires ne

[2:14:49] peuvent pas s'afficher. Celui de

[2:14:51] ce soir, c'est juste un

[2:14:53] locataire, c'est le plus gros

[2:14:54] locataire qu'on a de... dans

[2:14:57] l'édifice, j'espère que ça va

[2:14:59] fonctionner. Merci.

[2:15:02] - Monsieur

[2:15:03] >> Mr. Sandy?

[2:15:04] Séguin?

[2:15:05] - Si vous voulez me laisser vos

[2:15:06] coordonnées, puis est-ce que

[2:15:07] vous avez une carte d'affaires?

[2:15:09] Je vais demander à mes collègues

[2:15:11] du département de l'urbanisme de

[2:15:13] communiquer avec vous. Le

[2:15:17] conseil doit se prononcer ce

[2:15:18] soir, mais on aimerait pouvoir

[2:15:20] communiquer avec vous par la

[2:15:21] suite.

[2:15:32] 10.09 Considérer une demande de

[2:15:33] dérogation mineure pour

[2:15:34] permettre au 302-306, chemin du

[2:15:35] Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore: a) Une

[2:15:36] allée de circulation d'une

[2:15:37] largeur de 6,4 mètres plutôt que

[2:15:38] le minimum requis de 6,6 mètres;

[2:15:41] b) Une aire de stationnement à

[2:15:42] 2.5 mètres de la marge avant

[2:15:44] secondaire plutôt que le minimum

[2:15:45] requis de 3 mètres; c) Une aire

[2:15:47] de stationnement à 0 mètre de la

[2:15:48] limite de lot arrière plutôt que

[2:15:50] le minimum requis de 1.5 mètre.

[2:15:55] Vous avez une recommandation à

[2:15:57] l'effet de refuser la dérogation

[2:16:00] mineure.

[2:16:05] >> 10.10 consider minor

[2:16:09] exemption to 15 F Cartier

[2:16:11] Avenue, the installation of a

[2:16:13] sign above the common entrance

[2:16:14] for a non-ground floor

[2:16:18] establishment. The

[2:16:20] recommendation is to refuse the

[2:16:22] 10.11 Considérer une demande de

[2:16:23] dérogation mineure request.

[2:16:24] Pour permettre au 9, avenue

[2:16:25] Cavell: a) Une allée d'accès

[2:16:27] pour véhicules d'une largeur non

[2:16:29] constante à partir de la

[2:16:30] bordure, jusqu'à 60 centimètres

[2:16:32] à l'intérieur de la limite de

[2:16:33] propriété plutôt qu'une largeur

[2:16:35] constante sur cette même

[2:16:36] distance; b) Un accès pour

[2:16:38] véhicules d'une largeur de 15

[2:16:39] mètres plutôt que le maximum

[2:16:40] permis de 6,1 mètres. Donc c'est

[2:16:46] la question à laquelle madame...

[2:16:52] Kelly Thorstad-Cullen a répondu

[2:16:54] tard tout à l'heure, régler une

[2:16:57] situation existante depuis les

[2:16:58] années 2000. Vous avez une

[2:17:01] recommandation favorable

[2:17:02] d'accepter la demande de

[2:17:03] dérogation mineure.

[2:17:07] And turn 10.12 12, consider a

[2:17:11] minor exemption request to

[2:17:13] permit at 755 scents on

[2:17:16] boulevard. A monument signed

[2:17:18] identifying a name other than

[2:17:19] the name of the building. Be,

[2:17:21] the installation of said

[2:17:22] monument sign where it is not

[2:17:26] permitted. But in the pack

[2:17:28] recommendation is to refuse the

[2:17:31] request.

[2:17:32] >> Do I have a mover? Brent

[2:17:41] >> Brent Cowan, district 8, I

[2:17:42] refused to accept the

[2:17:46] recommendation to refuse 10.10

[2:17:48] and approve 10.11 and refuse

[2:17:51] 10.12.

[2:17:52] >> All in favour?

[2:18:03] - 20.01

[2:18:04] >>?

[2:18:05] - May I, for just one second? Si

[2:18:07] vous me laissez vos coordonnées,

[2:18:09] les gens vont vous... contacter,

[2:18:12] expliquer en détail. Ce n'est

[2:18:17] pas votre nom? À, O.K.. On va

[2:18:22] communiquer avec vous.

[2:18:27] - 20.01.

[2:18:33] - Déposer la liste des

[2:18:34] amendements budgétaires pour la

[2:18:35] période du 25 août

[2:18:36] 2022 au 21 septembre 2022 et le

[2:18:37] registre des chèques pour la

[2:18:40] période du 25 août 2022 au 21

[2:18:41] septembre 2022.

[2:19:10] 20.03 Autoriser l'accès à Mon

[2:19:12] Dossier à Revenu Québec pour le

[2:19:13] compte de la ville.

[2:19:25] >> 20.04, appointee access to

[2:19:30] the documents held by public

[2:19:31] bodies on the 20.05 protection

[2:19:32] of Autoriser la participation

[2:19:33] d'une personal information

[2:19:34] employée de la ville au congrès

[2:19:35] du Comité francophone et du

[2:19:36] Comité national du club de

[2:19:37] lecture d'été TD qui committee

[2:19:38] se tiendra à Winnipeg.. 20 or

[2:19:39] five authorized the

[2:19:40] participation of one city

[2:19:41] employee the francophone

[2:19:45] Committee. 2006, authorized

[2:19:49] participation of three city

[2:19:51] employees at the annual national

[2:19:55] coaching 20.07 Autoriser un

[2:19:56] amendement participation

[2:19:57] budgétaire afin de financer les

[2:19:58] dépenses opérationnelles

[2:19:59] mécaniques et de menuiserie afin

[2:20:00] de compléter l'année fiscale

[2:20:01] 2022. Program conference to be

[2:20:02] held in Ottawa.

[2:20:14] 20.08, grants financial port for

[2:20:19] the 54th annual baked beans day

[2:20:20] le montant organized by the du

[2:20:22] support financier est un montant

[2:20:23] de 1040 dollars.

[2:20:24] Fraternity de Police Police

[2:20:26] 20.09 the Montréal Nommer un

[2:20:27] membre au sein du comité de

[2:20:28] démolition..

[2:20:34] >> Do I have a mover?

[2:20:36] >> One specific information, the

[2:20:40] nomination to appoint Mr. Cowan

[2:20:42] to the committee.

[2:20:43] >> I propose items 20.02 to

[2:20:58] 20.09. All in favour?

[2:21:02] >> 30.01 has been removed from

[2:21:04] the agenda. 30.02 Approuver un

[2:21:06] protocole d'entente à intervenir

[2:21:07] entre la Ville de Pointe-Claire

[2:21:08] et le Club de canoë kayak de

[2:21:09] Pointe-Claire inc.

[2:21:19] 30.03 approve an agreement

[2:21:26] to be entered into between the

[2:21:27] city of Pointe-Claire and Angelo

[2:21:29] Key vandals for a restaurant

[2:21:31] food concessions services at

[2:21:40] --

[2:21:41] >> Do I have

[2:21:42] (inaudible)

[2:21:43] a mover?

[2:21:44] (---)

[2:21:45] .

[2:21:46] >> Eric

[2:21:47] Stork, district seven.

[2:21:48] >> Carrie Thorstad-Cullen, 30.04

[2:21:51] Se prévaloir de l'option de

[2:21:52] renouvellement district 3.

[2:21:53] Prévue au contrat intervenu avec

[2:21:54] Documents Traduction inc., pour

[2:21:55] des services professionnels de

[2:21:56] traduction, pour l'année 2023,

[2:21:57] pour un montant total de

[2:21:58] 115262,44 $, taxes incluses.

[2:21:59] >>

[2:22:00] 30.05 painting and standing

[2:22:01] services for find your hydrants

[2:22:02] for the year 2023, for a total

[2:22:05] amount of $15,694.09, taxes

[2:22:13] included. 30.06 Octroyer un

[2:22:16] contrat pour le montage, le

[2:22:17] démontage, les réparations,

[2:22:18] l'achat d'articles connexes et

[2:22:19] l'exécution de travaux

[2:22:20] imprévisibles des structures

[2:22:21] marines de la Ville, pour les

[2:22:22] années 2023, 2024 et 2025, à

[2:22:25] Indy-Co, pour un montant total

[2:22:26] de 254546,03 $, taxes incluses.

[2:22:39] 30.06 30 or seven award of

[2:22:40] contract for catch basin

[2:22:41] cleaning and pumping services to

[2:22:50] the BIA in viral tech inked.

[2:22:56] 30.08 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:22:57] des services professionnels de

[2:22:58] photos et vidéos, pour l'année

[2:22:59] 2023, à Pénéga Communications

[2:23:00] inc., pour un montant total de

[2:23:01] 123310,69 $, taxes incluses,

[2:23:02] avec option de renouvellement

[2:23:03] pour l'année 2024.

[2:23:08] --

[2:23:15] , 30.09 a word of contract for

[2:23:19] the installation removal of

[2:23:20] Christmas decorations across the

[2:23:21] city to mow facts elected

[2:23:23] economy day for a total amount

[2:23:28] of $50,000 $428.04, taxes

[2:23:31] included. 30.10 Approuver des

[2:23:36] modifications au contrat

[2:23:37] intervenu avec Réalisation

[2:23:38] Dynamique inc., pour la

[2:23:39] construction d'une aire de jeu

[2:23:40] d'eau au parc Augusta, pour un

[2:23:41] montant total de 1207,24 $,

[2:23:42] taxes incluses.

[2:23:46] >> Do I have a mover?

[2:23:48] >> I move items 30.05 to 30.10.

[2:23:54] >> Seconder?

[2:23:57] >> Eric Stork, district 7.

[2:23:58] >> All in favour?

[2:24:07] >>

[2:24:08] For

[2:24:11] >>, 30.11 a prove change orders

[2:24:13] to the contract undertaken with

[2:24:15] energy air inc. for phase two of

[2:24:17] the contract for the supply and

[2:24:19] installation of L.E.D. street

[2:24:20] lights through the group urges

[2:24:22] program of the Federation

[2:24:23] Québécois de municipally day for

[2:24:25] a total amount 30.12 of

[2:24:26] Approuver des modifications au

[2:24:27] contrat intervenu avec Transport

[2:24:28] JR Cyr & Fils inc., pour des

[2:24:29] services d'entrepreneur général

[2:24:30] pour la réalisation de fouilles

[2:24:31] archéologiques, pour un montant

[2:24:32] total de 18774,45 $, taxes

[2:24:33] incluses. $29,279.81, taxes

[2:24:34] included.

[2:24:49] 30.12

[2:24:59] 30.13 yeah, 30.14, Approuver une

[2:25:01] modification au contrat approval

[2:25:02] intervenu avec Réhabilitation Du

[2:25:03] O inc., change order to the pour

[2:25:04] la reconstruction de la chaussée

[2:25:05] de l'avenue Bancroft, contract

[2:25:06] entered into pour un montant

[2:25:07] total de 5044,60 $, taxes

[2:25:08] incluses. With Xerox Canada

[2:25:09] limited for the purchase of

[2:25:10] information technology,

[2:25:11] equipment, for a total amount of

[2:25:12] $50,000, taxes included.

[2:25:28] 30. 15, approve a change order

[2:25:33] to the contract entered into

[2:25:36] with a renovations lender

[2:25:38] costing for order culture

[2:25:40] maintenance works and machinery

[2:25:41] rental for the terracotta

[2:25:43] natural Park.

[2:25:44] >> And seconder? Cowan, 30.16

[2:25:54] district 8 Approuver une

[2:25:55] modification au contrat

[2:25:56] intervenu avec Troicé

[2:25:57] Construction inc., pour la

[2:25:58] construction d'un. Bâtiment

[2:25:59] sanitaire au parc Augusta, pour

[2:26:00] un montant total de 30300,79 $,

[2:26:01] taxes incluses.

[2:26:03] Who

[2:26:10] 30. 17, approve a change to the

[2:26:16] contract entered into with

[2:26:18] mechanical exemption for the

[2:26:19] replacement of the boilers city

[2:26:21] all, for a total amount of

[2:26:25] $11,980.16, taxes included.

[2:26:28] 30.18 Modifier la résolution

[2:26:29] 2022-455 afin de retirer la

[2:26:30] partie de la commande octroyée à

[2:26:31] FCA Canada inc. pour un montant

[2:26:32] total de 701156,64 $, taxes

[2:26:33] incluses.

[2:26:50] Approve the evaluation criteria

[2:26:51] to be used within the framework

[2:26:52] of a call for tenders for

[2:26:55] professional services for the

[2:26:56] carrying out of a traffic study

[2:26:57] in the Pointe-Claire Village

[2:26:59] area.

[2:27:04] >> Do I have a mover mover?

[2:27:06] >> I move to approve 30 16 and

[2:27:14] 30 17. At 30 18 and also moved

[2:27:17] to approve 30 19.

[2:27:24] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:27:25] district 3.

[2:27:26] >> All in favour? 50.01, Déposer

[2:27:29] la liste des changements au

[2:27:30] personnel par décisions

[2:27:31] déléguées pour le mois d'octobre

[2:27:32] 2022, telle que préparée par

[2:27:33] monsieur Vincent Proulx,

[2:27:34] Directeur - ressources

[2:27:35] >> Humaines.

[2:27:39] >> 50 oh, to approve the list of

[2:27:42] non delegated staff changes as

[2:27:44] of October 4th, 2022.

[2:27:47] >> Do I have a mover?

[2:27:48] >> Eric Stork, district seven

[2:27:52] and.

[2:27:53] >>? Second or

[2:27:54] >> Je seconde, Bruno Tremblay,

[2:27:55] district six.

[2:28:00] Tremblay, district 6.

[2:28:01] >> Those no item under the

[2:28:03] various section. Do I have a

[2:28:05] mover to close the meeting?

[2:28:08] >> I move to approve, district

[2:28:11] four.

[2:28:14] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:28:15] district 3. All in

[2:28:16] - Favour?

[2:28:17] >> Good. Bonsoir, tout le

[2:28:18] >> Good night everybody.

[2:28:19] Monde!

2022-10-04 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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