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[0:34]
Avant de débuter la séance du
[0:36]
conseil, je dois revenir sur une
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plainte au sujet d'un écart de
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langage de ma part qui a été
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porté à l'attention des médias
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et de la communauté et les
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personnes qui me connaissent,
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incluant celles de la communauté
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juive savent bel et bien que je
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ne suis pas antisémite et que
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mes intentions n'ont jamais été
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antisémites, cela n'excuse pas
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le mauvais choix de mots que
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j'ai utilisés dans le cadre de
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réunions privées. Je tiens à
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m'excuser auprès de tout seul et
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ce que j'ai offensé. Cela a
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généré beaucoup de réactions.
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J'ai dû m'expliquer et m'excuser
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à plusieurs reprises, sur
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plusieurs tribunes, ce qui est
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lourd à gérer. Aujourd'hui, j'en
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parle et je m'excuse
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publiquement pour une dernière
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fois. Je reprend avec force le
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rôle pour lequel j'ai été élu.
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>> Before we start this council
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meeting, I must bring up again a
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complaint about the
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inappropriate language I use
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that has been brought to the
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attention of the media and
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community. People in --
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including those in the Jewish
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community knows that I am not an
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antisemite and that my intention
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was never to be antisemitic.
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However, that does not excuse
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the poor choice of words I used
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in a previous meeting and I
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would like to apologize to
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anyone I offended. This resulted
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in many reactions. And I had to
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explain apologize on several
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occasions, on several off forms,
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which has been all consuming.
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Today, I am publicly apologizing
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one last time and will now
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firmly resume the role for which
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I was elected.
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Il y a un bien triste
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anniversaire à souligner, le 6
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décembre 1989, un homme armé a
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assassiné 14 forme à l'École
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polytechnique de Montréal.
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Simplement parce qu'elles
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étaient des femmes.
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À chaque année depuis ce drame,
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les cols et le comité mémoire
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rendent hommage aux victimes.
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Une levée de fonds appelé la
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semaine de la rose blanche a été
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mise sur pied afin de recueillir
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des dons pour permettre à des
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jeunes femmes issus de milieux
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moins aisés de participer à une
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(inaudible)
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scientifique pour développer
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leur curiosité et leurs intérêts
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à l'égard des sciences et du
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génie. Nous soulignons cet
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anniversaire en souhaitant
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qu'une telle événement ne se
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reproduise jamais.
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Today marks a sad anniversary,
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that of December 6th,, 1989,
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when a gunman murdered 14 women
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at the coal polytechnic's de
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Montréal, simply because they
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were women. Silver -- ever since
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this tragedy, the -- and this --
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week of the white roses set up
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to collect donations to enable
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young girls from disadvantaged
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communities to participate in
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the scientific outreach kids
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camp to develop their curiosity
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and interest in science and
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engineering. We mark this
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anniversary by wishing that this
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type of event never happens
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again.
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J'ai quelques mots à vous dire
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au sujet du budget. Il y aura
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trois séances extraordinaires ce
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mois-ci, dès le 19 décembre pour
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la présentation du budget et la
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motion de règlement de la
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taxation, un troisième le 21
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pour l'adoption de la
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réglementation de la taxation.
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La réglementation municipale
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fait en sorte que les activités
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de budget et de taxation doivent
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se tenir à des dates
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différentes. Ces présentations
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arrive tardivement cette année,
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car nous devons attendre que la
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Ville de Montréal dépose
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officiellement ses budgets pour
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recevoir les indications
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attribuables à Pointe-Claire.
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Nous savons que les quote-part
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de la Cour la... gomme et ration
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vont augmenter. Les détails de
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l'est ait impact sur votre
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compte de taxes vous seront
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présentés à la fin du mois.
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There will be three special
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council meetings this month. The
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first two, on December 19th, for
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adoption of the budget, and the
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deposit of a motion for taxation
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and a third one on the 21st to
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adopt a new taxation regulation.
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Municipal bylaws require that
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budget and taxation activities
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require -- that the budget to
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act be held on different days.
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These presentations are late
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this year because we had to wait
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for the City of Montréal to
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officially submit its budgets in
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order to receive the indication
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specific soda Pointe-Claire.
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Overall, we know that the shares
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the agglomeration have
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increased. The details of the
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budget and its impact on your
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tax bill would be presented to
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you on the end of the month.
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Au sujet des projets de la
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ville, nous avons des activités
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participatives pour les citoyens
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qui sont en cours. D'autres s'en
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viennent en 2023, sur la
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planification stratégique et le
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plan d'urbanisme en.
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Ce sont deux volets importants
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qui concernent le développement
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de notre ville. Le premier
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volet, il s'agit de la
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planification stratégique. Cet
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exercice vise à les principales
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perceptions des citoyens et
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citoyennes sur les forces,
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faiblesses et défie de
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Pointe-Claire, de manière à
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permettre aux équipes de la
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ville et aux élus de comprendre
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les principales préoccupations
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citoyennes. Présentement, nous
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poursuivons les activités en vue
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de cette planification. Il y a
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eu des sondages en ligne,
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maintenant. Il y a un sondage
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téléphonique en cour.
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Nous avons lancé une invitation
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aux personnes qui souhaitent
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participer à un atelier
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collaboratif qui se déroulera le
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13 décembre prochain au Centre
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nautique de la Baie de Valois.
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Il y a encore quelques places de
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disponibles. Pour participer,
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vous devez vous inscrire au plus
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tard demain, 16 heures.
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(inaudible)
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(---)
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. Toutes les informations
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entourant l'atelier sont
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disponibles sur ce site
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Internet. À la fin de cet
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exercice, plusieurs centaines de
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citoyens et citoyennes, employés
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élus qui ont participé à cet
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exercice, je tiens à les
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remercier tous publiquement.
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Pour faire suite à la
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planification stratégique, nous
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amorçons un autre exercice très
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important qui est celui de la
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révision du plan d'urbanisme.
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Nous allons inviter l'ensemble
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du public du Pointe-Claire à
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prendre part à différentes
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activités collaborative au cours
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de l'année 2023. C'est cette
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importante révision du plan
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d'urbanisme qui nous permettra
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de décider... dessiner le
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territoire de Pointe-Claire de
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demain. Vous pouvez consulter la
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documentation à cet effet sur
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notre site Internet. Il est
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important de vous inscrire sur
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le site pour participer aux
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exercices et pour recevoir les
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informations sur la révision du
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plan.
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We have participatory activities
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for citizens that are underway
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and others that are coming in
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2023 for strategic planning and
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the urban planning program.
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These are two important plans
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that concern the development of
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our city. The first part is
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strategic planning. The purpose
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of this exercise is to know the
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main perceptions of citizens
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regarding Pointe-Claire's
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strengths, weaknesses and
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challenges. This will allow the
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city's team and elected
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officials to get a better
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understanding of the main
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concerns of our citizens. We are
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continuing the activities for
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this planning exercise. There
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have been online surveys.
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Currently, there is a telephone
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survey in progress. And we are
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inviting people to participate
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in a collaborative workshop on
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December 13th at the -- nautical
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Centre. There are still a few
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places available for the
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workshop and participate you
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must register no later than
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tomorrow at 4 pm on the
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Pointe-Claire -- website. All
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the information about this
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workshop are on our website. And
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at the end of the exercise,
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several hundred citizens,
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employees and elected officials
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will have participated in this
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exercise. And I would like to
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thank each and every one of them
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publicly. To follow up on this
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strategic planning, we are
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starting another very important
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exercise, which is the review of
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the urban planning program. Once
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again, we will invite all
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Pointe-Claire stakeholders to
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take part in various
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collaborative activities during
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2023. It is important -- it is
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this important review of the
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urban planning program that will
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allow us to design tomorrow's
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territory of Pointe-Claire. You
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cannot really consult
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documentation about this on the
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Pointe-Claire -- site. You must
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register on the site to
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participate in the exercises and
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receive information on the
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program review.
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En terminant, demain, le 7
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décembre marque le premier jour
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de la COP 15. Il s'agit d'une
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Convention des Nations Unies sur
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la biodiversité qui se tiendra,
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ici, à Montréal, jusqu'au 19
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décembre. Les nombreux
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participants qu'on prenne des
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représentants gouvernementaux,
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scientifique, des gens du monde
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des affaires, des
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universitaires, des organismes
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communautaires, des citoyens. Le
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but de ce rendez-vous est de
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fixer des objectifs fédéral
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abhorrer un plan d'action pour
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protéger l'écosystème fragile,
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la biodiversité de notre monde
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est essentiel à toute vie sur
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Terre. La nature est en crise.
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Les questions environnementales
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affectent toutes les facettes de
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notre vie quotidienne et elles
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ne peuvent plus être ignorées.
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Il est donc temps que nous
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commencions, ici à
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Pointe-Claire, à recentrer la...
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les priorités de notre ville
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afin de sauvegarder les systèmes
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naturels qu'on compte pour notre
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exercice sens pour demeurer sain
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et disponible pour les
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générations à venir. Sosa, au
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cours des trois prochaines
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années, je travaillerai aux...
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avec les membres du conseil et
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la administration de la Ville
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pour placer l'environnement au
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cours de notre réflexion et de
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notre planifie canadien.
[12:12]
Planification. Nous nous
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joignons aux municipalités du
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Québec et du Canada, et du monde
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pour faire face aux enjeux
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pressants liés aux changements
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climatiques.
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L'air que nous respirons à la
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santé de nos rives, les nombreux
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oiseaux, reptiles et animaux,
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insecte, plantes et espaces
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naturels qui partage cette ville
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avec nous, il est temps de
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devenir proactif et d'aller
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au-delà de ce que nous avons
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fait jusqu'à présent.
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Il est temps de redécouvrir
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notre relation avec la nature et
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de garder Pointe-Claire une
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ville Belle et florissante que
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nous connaissons.
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J'ai hâte d'entreprendre ce
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voyage avec vous tous.
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Tomorrow, December 7th, marks
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the first day of cop 15. --
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participants include government
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officials, scientists, members
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of businesses and industry,
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scholars, community
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organizations, as well as
[13:25]
citizens. The purpose of COP15
[13:28]
is to set new goals and develop
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an action plan to protect our
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worlds fragile ecosystems and
[13:34]
biodiversity, essential to a
[13:36]
life on earth. Nature is in
[13:39]
crisis. Environmental issues
[13:41]
affect every facet of our daily
[13:43]
lives and they can no longer be
[13:45]
ignored. And so, it is time that
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we begin here in Pointe-Claire,
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to refocus and realign our
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city's priorities in order to
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safeguard the natural systems we
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rely on for very existence and
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that they will remain healthy
[13:58]
unavailable for generations to
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come. Consequently, this evening
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I am announcing that over the
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next three years I will work
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with council members on the
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City's administration to put the
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environment at the forefront of
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our thinking and planning. In
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doing so, we joined the numerous
[14:13]
municipalities throughout
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Québec, Canada and the world in
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tackling the pressing issues
[14:17]
around climate change. From the
[14:19]
air we breathe, to the health of
[14:20]
our shoreline, from the many
[14:21]
birds, reptiles, animals,
[14:24]
insects, to the plants and
[14:27]
natural spaces that share the
[14:28]
city with us, it is time to
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become proactive and to go
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beyond what we have done so far.
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It is time to rediscover a
[14:36]
relationship with their future
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and to keep Pointe-Claire the
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beautiful in flushing city we
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know to be. I look forward to
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embarking on this journey with
[14:44]
you all. Thank you for your
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attention. And now, Madam Clerk,
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we can begin a regular council
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meeting.
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01.01 Approuver l'ordre du jour.
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--
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>> Approve the agenda, change --
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le retrait de points 10-04 --
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10.04 Avis de motion et dépôt
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d'un projet de règlement.
[15:04]
>> Do we have a mover?
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>> --
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District to.
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>> Seconder?
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>> Eric Stork, district seven.
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- 04.01 Approuver la version
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française et la version anglaise
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du procès-verbal de la séance
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ordinaire du 8 novembre 2022.
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>> Do we have
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A mover?
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>> -- district two.
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>> -- Eric Stork, district
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seven.
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>> All in favour?
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>> -- French in English versions
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of the Pointe-Claire
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Pointe-Claire Public Library
[15:41]
advisory board meeting, of --
[15:43]
04.03 Déposer la version
[15:44]
française et la version anglaise
[15:45]
du procès-verbal de la réunion
[15:46]
du comité consultatif de Stewart
[15:47]
Hall du 9 novembre 2022.
[15:51]
04.04 Déposer et approuver la
[15:52]
version française et la version
[15:53]
anglaise du procès-verbal de la
[15:54]
réunion du comité de circulation
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du 8 novembre 2022. -- improve
[15:56]
the French and English version
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of the minutes of the 05 -
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Période de questions traffic
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committee meeting of November
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8th, 2022..
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>> Question period --
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Pour la période de questions,
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nous gardons 90 minutes pour
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cette période. Nous commencerons
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par les questions des résidents
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de Pointe-Claire et n'aborderons
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que les questions des promoteurs
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après avoir répondu à celle-ci.
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>> For question period, we shall
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stick to the 90 minutes time
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period for questions. For
[16:25]
question period, will begin with
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questions from Pointe-Claire
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residents and address questions
[16:29]
from developers only after these
[16:30]
have been answered. Okay.
[16:33]
>> -- fourth, district four,
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question for Maria, who cannot
[16:39]
be here, and we do not allow
[16:41]
email questions. So, I will ask
[16:43]
your question for her. She would
[16:44]
like to know if the meetings on
[16:47]
the strategic plan will
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accommodate people with special
[16:50]
needs.
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>> I would hope so.
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>> So, you don't know?
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>> I would certainly think that
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we will?
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>> Yes?
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay. Thank you.
[17:14]
>> Okay, Susan, Pointe-Claire, I
[17:18]
have one preamble, approximately
[17:19]
two minutes, with one question
[17:22]
and a second question. Okay? Mr.
[17:29]
Thomas, I was disgusted but not
[17:34]
surprised by the antisemitic
[17:35]
slur that you had made at a
[17:37]
recent caucus meeting. Caucus
[17:38]
meetings might be closed or, but
[17:43]
-- offended by remark. And as
[17:46]
per usual, you try to intimidate
[17:47]
her by saying that she was
[17:49]
exaggerating and dramatic. Over
[17:50]
the past year, you have shown
[17:52]
that you are unfit to be a
[17:54]
mayor. Last march, he wanted
[17:57]
Council to give Mr. Lionel out
[17:59]
of $5,000 for his Pointe-Claire
[18:01]
journal. He spent a year
[18:02]
promoting new and attacking
[18:04]
longtime members of Council. The
[18:06]
paper has since folded. July,
[18:08]
you had a -- at citizens at --
[18:11]
stating that you and your
[18:12]
political advisor would meet
[18:13]
with him. I asked you about the
[18:15]
advisory. You denied having an
[18:17]
adviser, skirted the issue and
[18:19]
condescendingly said to me, what
[18:20]
am I going to do with you, Mrs.
[18:26]
Weaver? In September, being the
[18:27]
rookie that you said you are,
[18:28]
you sent your jealous and angry
[18:30]
email to all employees and
[18:31]
elected officials. And are your
[18:34]
most recent behaviour, a
[18:35]
degrading slur. These are just a
[18:37]
few. Past history has shown that
[18:40]
as a citizen, you never attended
[18:43]
council meetings other than
[18:44]
during the time of the pioneer,
[18:46]
where you took time to showcase
[18:47]
yourself and grandstand. Prior
[18:49]
to last year's election, so many
[18:51]
people had told me that you were
[18:53]
an abusive man and I could not
[18:54]
condone that. I wondered about
[18:57]
your credentials, not deserving
[18:58]
of my vote. In office, you
[19:00]
continue to listen to only those
[19:02]
of you who work to elect you
[19:05]
rather than trying to
[19:06]
collaborate and listen to
[19:09]
democratically elected
[19:10]
councillors, especially those
[19:11]
who were reelected with years of
[19:13]
experience. I have regularly
[19:15]
attended and followed council
[19:17]
meetings for 12 years. I might
[19:19]
not have always agreed with past
[19:21]
councils, but when I left a
[19:22]
meeting, whether it was -- for
[19:25]
Mr. Trudeau or Mr. Belvedere, I
[19:27]
felt that the city was in good
[19:29]
hands. Not with you. You are the
[19:31]
reason the city is divided. We
[19:33]
didn't newspaper articles and
[19:34]
letters to the editor say that
[19:36]
some once you've gone. They
[19:38]
change the narrative to protect
[19:39]
the character and hide you are
[19:41]
the grading slur. I four, one,
[19:45]
do not want to Pointe-Claire go
[19:47]
through another expensive
[19:48]
election. But I really do not
[19:50]
know what is best for our city.
[19:51]
My question -- will you write a
[19:53]
formal apology considering
[19:55]
concerning your last
[19:58]
misdemeanour?
[19:59]
>> Mrs. weaver, you have said a
[20:01]
lot of things, unsubstantiated,
[20:03]
uncorroborated and without
[20:04]
evidence. And it is horrible to
[20:06]
speak to someone in that manner
[20:09]
with no evidence and no
[20:10]
confirmation of what you are
[20:11]
throwing at me. And if you want
[20:13]
to talk about smears, you just
[20:15]
engaged in a huge one. As for
[20:18]
all employees and elected
[20:19]
officials, that's factually
[20:21]
wrong. As for Council meetings,
[20:23]
I attended all of the council
[20:25]
meetings, all of them. I may be
[20:27]
missed two in the entire
[20:29]
timeframe. So, maybe we're not
[20:30]
there when I was there the whole
[20:31]
time. As for the abusive man,
[20:34]
that goes into smear. I have a
[20:37]
lifetime body of performance as
[20:38]
a human being and have done my
[20:39]
best to be a decent one. And
[20:41]
what has been confirmed in the
[20:42]
last couple of weeks is that I
[20:43]
have been one, because a lot of
[20:45]
really decent people have waited
[20:47]
for me. As for collaborating
[20:50]
with Council, I have done
[20:51]
nothing but. I have done nothing
[20:53]
but. And as for past councils,
[20:56]
you are on record as having said
[20:58]
horrible things about other
[20:59]
mayors and I can pull it up for
[21:00]
you. So, Mrs. Weaver, there is
[21:03]
your answer to your question.
[21:06]
>> Okay. That wasn't answered.
[21:08]
But, okay, on to my second
[21:09]
question.
[21:11]
>> Okay. I
[21:12]
>> Attended the September
[21:14]
council meeting, who shouted,
[21:15]
while Ms. we Tedford speaking --
[21:18]
I was also the parking lot after
[21:21]
the meeting. Is there a public
[21:22]
security report for the incident
[21:23]
you had mentioned --
[21:25]
>> I would think. So
[21:29]
>> Mr. -- do we have a public
[21:31]
security report for that
[21:32]
incident?
[21:33]
>> --
[21:34]
>> You don't know?
[21:35]
>> Madame -- you don't know
[21:38]
either? Good question. We will
[21:39]
find that out.
[21:47]
Bonjour, mon nom est Suzanne
[21:48]
Wilson. Concernant le fluor,
[21:53]
j'ai appelé au ministère de la
[21:54]
santé publique.
[22:03]
Quelles sont les dernières
[22:05]
études scientifiques qui ont été
[22:06]
faites sur le fluor? Elle a
[22:09]
fouillé ces documents et n'a
[22:10]
rien trouvé. On m'a transféré.
[22:12]
On m'a dit d'appeler à hauts et
[22:15]
environnement. C'est ce que j'ai
[22:16]
fait. J'ai parlé à une
[22:19]
inspectrice. On m'a dit que ça
[22:21]
faisait plus de 40 ans qu'il n'y
[22:22]
avait pas d'études là-dessus.
[22:27]
Là-dessus, pour payer tant par
[22:31]
année pour le fluor, vous payez
[22:33]
un employé affectés au fluor à
[22:34]
l'usine.
[22:38]
Y a-t-il une corrélation? Le
[22:41]
fluor dans l'eau, la pâte à
[22:43]
dents et le fluor, c'est venu en
[22:44]
même temps.
[22:47]
Pensez-vous que ce n'est pas à
[22:48]
cause de la pâte à dents? Ce
[22:51]
n'est pas le fluor vraiment. Si
[22:53]
tu ne te brosses pas les dents
[22:55]
et que tu prends de l'eau
[22:58]
fluorée, tu auras des dans
[22:59]
Carrier. La controverse est
[23:01]
qu'il y a plein d'études qui
[23:04]
disent que il y a la thyroïde,
[23:07]
l'ostéoporose.
[23:12]
Ça fait diminuer le quotient
[23:18]
intellectuel, ça crée de
[23:19]
l'ostéoporose.
[23:23]
Étant donné la controverse,
[23:27]
pourquoi n'arrêtez-vous pas le
[23:28]
fluor?
[23:31]
- Après cette controverse, on
[23:34]
est à
[23:35]
(inaudible)
[23:36]
(---)
[23:37]
. L'agglomération est
[23:39]
responsable pour le fluor dans
[23:40]
l'eau. Ce n'est pas nous. On
[23:42]
n'est pas responsable. Nous
[23:44]
avons contacté l'agglomération.
[23:46]
Nous avons parlé avec
[23:48]
l'agglomération. De ce que je
[23:49]
comprends, il y aura une
[23:51]
décision en 2023 ans au sujet du
[23:55]
fluor dans l'eau de
[23:56]
Pointe-Claire. C'est
[23:57]
l'agglomération qui décide. Ce
[23:58]
n'est pas nous.
[24:01]
On a le pouvoir de parler
[24:04]
seulement. C'est ce qu'on a
[24:06]
fait.
[24:08]
- Pourquoi les autres villes ont
[24:09]
décidé?
[24:13]
- Parce qu'on était chanceux, à
[24:15]
l'époque, quand ils ont commencé
[24:17]
le fluor. On a été gâté.
[24:18]
- C'est le contraire.
[24:24]
- Les scientifiques sont en
[24:26]
train de décider. C'est dans les
[24:31]
mains de l'agglomération, ce
[24:33]
n'est pas nous. Madame, ce n'est
[24:36]
pas nous. Il faut parler à
[24:40]
l'agglomération au sujet du
[24:41]
fluor.
[24:42]
- À la Ville de Montréal, ils
[24:43]
n'en ont pas. Pourquoi on en a?
[24:45]
- Parlez à l'agglomération. Il
[24:47]
faut demander à l'agglomération.
[24:48]
Ce sont les villes qui décident.
[24:50]
- Pas du, tout celles
[24:51]
agglomérations.
[24:52]
- C'est pas vrai.
[24:53]
- C'est vrai, Madame.
[24:55]
- Pourquoi ils n'en ont pas?
[24:57]
- Pourquoi ils n'ont pas quoi?
[25:00]
- Pourquoi ils n'ont pas de
[25:01]
fluor, la Ville de Montréal?
[25:02]
- Parce qu'on était chanceux.
[25:06]
- Ça crée des problèmes de
[25:07]
santé.
[25:08]
- C'est un débat scientifique.
[25:11]
- Ce n'est pas, vrai ça fait 40
[25:12]
ans.
[25:13]
- Il faut parler avec les
[25:14]
personnes responsables. Ce n'est
[25:16]
pas nous.
[25:21]
Ce n'est pas nous du tour.
[25:25]
Madame Verdon, avez-vous quelque
[25:26]
chose à dire?
[25:30]
Est-ce qu'il y a une décision en
[25:31]
2023?
[25:41]
- Il y aura un comité de formé
[25:43]
de la Ville de Montréal pour
[25:45]
analyser la situation du fluor
[25:47]
dans l'eau. Il y aura
[25:49]
recommandation en 2023 à
[25:51]
l'agglomération de Montréal. Ça
[25:52]
sera les maires de
[25:53]
l'agglomération qui prendront la
[25:54]
décision.
[25:56]
- Ce n'est pas les citoyens qui
[25:57]
prennent la décision.
[25:59]
- Non, c'est à l'agglomération
[26:01]
que la décision va se prendre.
[26:05]
- Où sont les chartes des droits
[26:06]
et libertés?
[26:09]
- Il faut poser la question à
[26:10]
Monsieur le Maire, je ne fais
[26:11]
que répondre, merci.
[26:14]
- C'est la responsabilité du
[26:17]
gouvernement qui décide de cette
[26:19]
adoption. C'est l'agglomération
[26:21]
de Montréal qui décide ça.
[26:24]
- Ce n'est pas le gouvernement,
[26:25]
la Ville de Montréal.
[26:26]
- Oui, c'est une forme de
[26:28]
gouvernement. L'agglomération,
[26:30]
c'est un ensemble.
[26:31]
- Il n'y a que 3% de la
[26:32]
population au Québec qui a le
[26:33]
fluor. Ils décèdent au sujet de
[26:38]
Pointe-Claire.
[26:41]
- Ce n'est pas le gouvernement.
[26:42]
Le gouvernement suggère.
[26:44]
- Madame.
[26:46]
- Je suis tanné des menteries.
[26:49]
- Madame, j'ai répondu trois
[26:50]
fois.
[26:52]
- Je ne suis pas contente.
[26:53]
- Je le sais, parler avec
[26:54]
l'agglomération. Si vous n'êtes
[26:57]
pas contente, il faut parler à
[27:01]
l'organisation. Il faut parler à
[27:05]
l'organisation qui est
[27:06]
responsable.
[27:08]
- Dites-moi les noms.
[27:09]
- C'est l'agglomération de
[27:10]
Montréal.
[27:13]
- C'est qui?
[27:15]
- Vous devez téléphoner
[27:17]
l'agglomération de Montréal, ce
[27:18]
n'est pas avec moi tout de
[27:19]
suite.
[27:20]
- Vous ne donnez pas de noms ou
[27:21]
de numéros. On peut les trouver.
[27:24]
- Vous pouvez appeler la Ville.
[27:28]
- C'est qui, la ville?
[27:31]
- N'importe qui. Il faut
[27:34]
chercher un numéro pour
[27:35]
l'agglomération.
[27:43]
Madame, c'est assez.
[27:45]
- Il faut travailler pour les
[27:46]
citoyens.
[27:48]
- Madame, c'est assez, merci.
[27:50]
- Je suis vraiment mécontente.
[27:53]
- Je comprends, il faut pas les
[27:54]
avec les responsables.
[27:55]
(inaudible)
[27:56]
(---)
[27:57]
.
[28:00]
- Il faut parler avec les
[28:01]
responsables.
[28:05]
>> Hello, everyone, my name is
[28:07]
Steven, and I -- Pointe-Claire.
[28:11]
My issue right now is -- this
[28:14]
issue about what happened in
[28:17]
caucus. And one of your
[28:19]
councillors left at caucus time.
[28:22]
And she shared her thoughts on
[28:24]
Facebook, is my problem -- my
[28:26]
problem, okay? I own a business
[28:29]
in Pointe-Claire. And I find
[28:32]
Facebook is an amazing venue of
[28:36]
advertising you are store,
[28:38]
dealing with people. But when
[28:41]
something happens in behind
[28:43]
caucus, in a meeting -- I'm
[28:47]
sorry, but you put it on
[28:49]
Facebook and how you felt, what
[28:51]
happened behind closed doors, on
[28:53]
Facebook -- I don't think it was
[28:54]
right. I think that the, what do
[28:58]
you call it, the platform, is
[29:00]
the wrong platform to exercise
[29:04]
your opinion on what the
[29:06]
situation was. Again, I see it
[29:08]
in a newspaper ad, the same
[29:10]
issues. The way I see it is, if
[29:13]
you have a caucus meeting, it's
[29:15]
like having an argument in a
[29:17]
kitchen, okay, with your wife --
[29:19]
and you don't want to
[29:21]
publicized, what you are
[29:22]
discussing. So, that is my main
[29:25]
problem here, that I don't think
[29:28]
anything that happens with
[29:30]
Council in behind closed doors
[29:32]
should be shared in public.
[29:35]
Okay? So, that is one issue. The
[29:39]
second issue is, -- Thomas was
[29:43]
elected as mayor of
[29:44]
Pointe-Claire for the next four
[29:45]
years. And I was one of them
[29:47]
that voted. And I convinced a
[29:49]
lot of people to vote for him,
[29:50]
because I thought that he would
[29:52]
be the good candidate for the
[29:55]
next four years. There is a
[30:00]
divide in Council between what
[30:03]
Tim Thomas is trying to do or
[30:05]
what Council wants. This has to
[30:07]
be fixed. You are all on
[30:08]
salaries. You are all getting
[30:09]
paid for the job. You chose the
[30:12]
job. Make it work. Okay? So,
[30:15]
this is the only two things that
[30:17]
I am addressing. Okay? And I
[30:20]
think that you guys have to work
[30:21]
together over the next four
[30:22]
years, make it work. I don't
[30:25]
understand why we have outside
[30:30]
municipalities discussing a
[30:31]
situation that was happening in
[30:32]
caucus. So, I don't know what
[30:34]
else to say. But I think that is
[30:36]
something that has to be
[30:38]
addressed, or you guys have to
[30:39]
solve the problems behind your
[30:41]
own closed doors and not
[30:42]
publicized it to the public.
[30:43]
Thank you.
[30:45]
[Applause]
[30:49]
>> --
[30:56]
>> Hi, my name is Ralph Stolcek,
[31:04]
and I'm a resident of two. I'm
[31:07]
going to make some comments on
[31:08]
the fly. My question is about
[31:10]
the Fairview forest. But I just
[31:12]
want to make a quick comment
[31:17]
first and echo that gentleman's
[31:19]
view. He stole my thunder they
[31:21]
are a bit. But also, I have
[31:23]
attended many council meetings.
[31:24]
And I am so exhausted by the
[31:27]
fighting amongst you guys and
[31:30]
amongst certain people who come
[31:32]
to question period and
[31:36]
constantly harass, a task. The
[31:37]
assaults are vicious. And I also
[31:39]
worry that the disruptions to
[31:42]
the business of the city,
[31:45]
becoming potentially so
[31:46]
dramatic, that it could get
[31:48]
dysfunctional if it is not
[31:50]
already. And I also want to echo
[31:53]
that you -- you folks have to
[31:54]
get your act together. Because
[31:56]
it is enough. I should not have
[32:00]
said that because it's not what
[32:01]
I came here for. But I am sure,
[32:04]
just like you, I have had it.
[32:08]
And you need to act. You are
[32:10]
elected as a leaders -- not just
[32:12]
one leader, you are all leaders.
[32:13]
And it is time to act and get
[32:15]
together. So, the reason that I
[32:17]
came tonight is because a couple
[32:19]
of hours ago, I read an article
[32:24]
in La Presse and it made me
[32:26]
think of the and Fairview Forest
[32:30]
it was quite interesting. I was
[32:32]
so excited to hear Tim Thomas
[32:34]
and, I'm sure, all the Council,
[32:36]
get excited about, it COP15 and
[32:38]
the upcoming UN conference on
[32:41]
biodiversity. There are over
[32:43]
18,000 delegates coming to
[32:45]
Montréal. It will be a huge
[32:48]
event. Members of, say, Fairview
[32:51]
Forest, will actually be there.
[32:53]
And I am excited for the
[32:55]
results. I know it is an uphill
[32:56]
battle. But I think
[32:58]
Pointe-Claire, like lots of
[32:59]
small, local areas, can do
[33:03]
important things. And it shows a
[33:05]
small local level but it's
[33:06]
really important. Other
[33:09]
municipalities have done it.
[33:10]
Montréal and
[33:11]
Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue,
[33:12]
notably. And that is, it's time
[33:14]
to save land. It is time to save
[33:16]
the tiny areas of force that we
[33:17]
still have. Pointe-Claire it's
[33:19]
just a tiny, tiny proportion of
[33:23]
natural spaces and land left.
[33:27]
I think, it's in the single
[33:29]
digits in terms of percentage of
[33:30]
property. So, the forest is
[33:32]
important. And that article that
[33:34]
I mentioned in La Presse --
[33:38]
well, there are two articles.
[33:41]
One is that Legault has
[33:47]
announced $650 million to
[33:48]
purchase land. And the other one
[33:49]
was that the minister of the
[33:52]
Environment has announced a new
[33:56]
much stronger protection on
[33:59]
threatened species and will be
[34:01]
elevating the status of the
[34:03]
brown snake to more endangered
[34:07]
level as well as, I think, 25
[34:09]
other species. We have had lots
[34:11]
of reports, including the --
[34:13]
report saying how endangered an
[34:16]
important series of the forest
[34:17]
are, the CMM has put it under
[34:23]
freeze. Pointe-Claire has its
[34:25]
citywide freeze. There's all
[34:26]
sorts of developments that have
[34:27]
happened. But I think there are
[34:29]
actions that have been taken and
[34:33]
taken now. I want to know if the
[34:35]
City, given its interest in
[34:37]
COP15 and the environment
[34:38]
committee can start taking more
[34:40]
tangible steps to, at least in
[34:45]
principle, say, soon, very
[34:48]
shortly, that the Fairview
[34:50]
Forest has to be preserved. 100%
[34:52]
of it. It's a small area. It
[34:54]
cannot survive being parceled
[34:56]
off, not just for the brown
[34:58]
snake but for all the rest of
[34:59]
the forest as well. There's all
[35:01]
sorts of species, wetlands, that
[35:03]
already need to be protected and
[35:04]
so it's time to take a stand and
[35:08]
announce that, in principle at
[35:09]
least, it should be protected,
[35:11]
and then start to lobby with the
[35:14]
CMM and the Québec Ministry of
[35:16]
the Environment -- the CMM is
[35:18]
already lobbying. They are all
[35:21]
ready saying that they want the
[35:24]
expropriation vac to be changed.
[35:26]
And they want to be able to
[35:28]
purchase land at a fair value
[35:31]
instead of market value after
[35:34]
potential theoretical
[35:35]
developments are built. There is
[35:36]
lots of things that
[35:39]
Pointe-Claire can do. And I hope
[35:41]
that, in the very near future,
[35:43]
asking, are there any steps that
[35:45]
you are going to take to protect
[35:48]
endangered species and protect
[35:50]
the forest and will you make it
[35:52]
part of your mandate. Thank you.
[35:58]
>> There was a question.
[36:01]
>> Yes, Ralph.
[36:03]
>> -- that has yet to be
[36:04]
decided. But I I certainly hope
[36:07]
so. I am certainly, 100%, behind
[36:10]
that goal.
[36:12]
>> Gregory, district one. Just a
[36:16]
little preamble that I did not
[36:18]
have before now. I think social
[36:21]
media and various platforms are
[36:25]
a good way and a way a certain
[36:28]
generation looks to get
[36:29]
information about the cities
[36:30]
they live in and what is going
[36:32]
on behind closed doors. Thank
[36:37]
you, Councillor Stainforth for
[36:39]
standing up for your beliefs and
[36:40]
informing the public of what
[36:42]
happened behind closed doors. It
[36:44]
happens in Ottawa. It happens
[36:46]
south of the border. It happens
[36:48]
in Québec City. It happens here.
[36:50]
We want to know about it. Thank
[36:51]
you. Question number one -- this
[36:55]
is a new one. I've got two. I'd
[36:58]
like to know, Mr. Mayor, if you
[37:01]
can answer, who do we pay for
[37:03]
our water in the city of
[37:06]
Pointe-Claire? Because my water
[37:07]
is terrible. It is Brown. And
[37:09]
now it has fluoride in it that I
[37:11]
did not even think about after
[37:13]
moving back to Montréal. So, who
[37:15]
do I pay to get my water? -- or
[37:18]
to the City of Pointe-Claire?
[37:20]
>> You pay Pointe-Claire but it
[37:22]
goes to the --
[37:25]
>> I-pay, Pointe-Claire, so, it
[37:26]
is your responsibility as the
[37:28]
mayor Pointe-Claire of, and as a
[37:30]
mayor on the agglo to hear the
[37:34]
citizens that I get rid of
[37:36]
fluoride and to tell them --
[37:38]
it's not for them to call the
[37:39]
agglo. It is your responsibility
[37:41]
--
[37:43]
>> Is that a question?
[37:46]
>> -- stop paying for your our
[37:48]
water.
[37:49]
>> You are speaking for the
[37:50]
entire city right now?
[37:53]
>> --
[37:54]
>> That's quite a roll you've
[37:55]
taken on, there Mr. -- the
[37:58]
responsibility has been done.
[37:59]
The agglo has been contacted and
[38:01]
in fact they have are getting
[38:04]
back to us. We are going to hear
[38:06]
from them, in 2023, whether
[38:09]
conclusions are regarding
[38:10]
fluoride in our water. We have
[38:11]
pressure them. We have done our
[38:12]
best. And we are going to get an
[38:14]
answer from them. So, there you
[38:16]
go, Mr., the answer --
[38:20]
>> -- that was clear and
[38:23]
concise. And not saying I'm not
[38:25]
a scientist and I'm not this and
[38:27]
I'm not --
[38:28]
>> I'm not Mr. -- and I did not
[38:33]
-- I never ever did anything,
[38:37]
Mr. Frochette. Is that your
[38:38]
question?
[38:39]
>> That's my first question. And
[38:40]
I want to get into your little
[38:43]
diatribe as well before that but
[38:44]
I will let you answer your
[38:48]
second question. -- Mrs. Weaver
[38:51]
kind of still some of my
[38:52]
question. I'm concerned that
[38:56]
Councillor Tedford is our
[38:58]
Councillor district one. I see
[38:59]
that she is still not present. I
[39:01]
would like to know what is has
[39:03]
taken place. I believe, in a
[39:05]
previous meeting, one question
[39:07]
by another resident of district
[39:08]
one, you said that there was an
[39:13]
investigation ongoing and it was
[39:16]
recorded by Public Security. Is
[39:18]
anything happening? It is
[39:21]
Councillor Tedford going to come
[39:22]
back to work or what is
[39:25]
happening? Because you really
[39:27]
said there is no report.
[39:30]
>> --
[39:37]
>> I don't know.
[39:38]
>> We don't know the answer to
[39:40]
that one. I am hoping she will.
[39:42]
>> Is there or is there not a
[39:43]
report that was --
[39:45]
>> That question has already
[39:46]
been asked and answered. Do you
[39:48]
have another one? It's already
[39:50]
been asked and answered.
[39:51]
>> But in a previous meeting he
[39:53]
said yes.
[39:54]
>> There was a public security
[39:55]
brigade that visited and greeted
[39:57]
the situation and dealt with it.
[39:58]
So I am assuming they have
[40:00]
written a report because they
[40:01]
actually dealt with an
[40:02]
occurrence. So, there must be
[40:04]
something out there because they
[40:05]
actually did deal with the
[40:07]
situation of which there were
[40:09]
five witnesses, who are all
[40:12]
participatory's and who all can
[40:14]
vouch for it. So, the incident
[40:16]
did occur --
[40:17]
>> -- Aaron is obviously not
[40:19]
here.
[40:20]
>> You don't know that that's
[40:21]
the reason she's not here. You
[40:22]
don't know that. She could have
[40:25]
other physical reasons for not
[40:26]
being here. So, the are two not
[40:29]
necessarily connected.
[40:30]
>> I really hope it's not.
[40:32]
>> Okay, oh right. So, we are we
[40:34]
going with this?
[40:35]
>> My question is, is there or
[40:38]
is there not --
[40:39]
>> Asked and answered, Mr.
[40:42]
Frechette --
[40:43]
>> No, you said in a previous
[40:44]
meeting --
[40:45]
>> We don't know. We don't know.
[40:47]
I would like to find out myself.
[40:49]
Absolutely, there should be one.
[40:50]
Here's --
[40:51]
>> Why did you say in a previous
[40:52]
meeting --
[40:53]
>> I just already answered, you
[40:55]
Mr. Frechette. I said, they
[40:57]
visited, there was an incident,
[40:58]
I'm pretty sure there was one
[40:59]
written. And if there wasn't one
[41:00]
written, there should have been
[41:02]
one. So, we will find out.
[41:04]
>> --
[41:05]
>> We don't know. You have just
[41:07]
been answered, Mr. Frechette,
[41:08]
asked and answered. We don't
[41:10]
know. We don't know.
[41:11]
>> I have the access to
[41:13]
information saying there is not
[41:14]
one.
[41:15]
>> Okay. Is there not one? I'm
[41:16]
not even sure of that.
[41:18]
>> The answers right here.
[41:19]
>> Okay, how about I try and get
[41:22]
you one then?
[41:23]
>> But if it was not done at the
[41:24]
time, then it's too late --
[41:26]
>> No. All the participants are
[41:28]
still available and it's --
[41:30]
>> One should be done.
[41:31]
>> Probably. I agree.
[41:33]
>> Not probably. Most
[41:35]
definitely.
[41:36]
>> I would love for one to be
[41:37]
done. I would love for one to
[41:38]
be. Then trust me. And I thank
[41:41]
you for that. And don't go away.
[41:44]
Now the role of social media to
[41:46]
let everybody know what is going
[41:47]
on behind closed doors is an
[41:51]
irresponsible way to conduct an
[41:52]
organization.
[41:55]
Behind closed doors -- B'nai
[42:02]
Brith weighed in.
[42:03]
>> I read the article.
[42:07]
>> Please, Mr. Frechette, -- you
[42:09]
didn't read the report. It was a
[42:11]
TV -- it was a TV spot. And on
[42:13]
the global TV spot where, B'nai
[42:16]
Brith and Mayor Jeremy Levi were
[42:19]
interviewed, they both said, as
[42:23]
the representatives of their
[42:25]
community that the worst thing
[42:26]
you can do is run to social
[42:28]
media and it hurts their
[42:30]
community, and the best thing
[42:31]
you can do is to go to the
[42:32]
responsible, professional
[42:34]
organizations involved in this
[42:35]
type of that cavity to deal with
[42:36]
it. Watch the global news
[42:37]
report. And this is coming from
[42:40]
experience professional
[42:43]
organizations, Mr., Frechette,
[42:44]
so quite frankly, your version
[42:46]
of what you think is right for
[42:47]
what's going on behind closed
[42:48]
doors he is not shared by the
[42:51]
persecuted communities who speak
[42:53]
and have a lifetime experience
[42:55]
on this issue. So, I thank you
[42:56]
for your comment but I think it
[42:57]
demonstrates something.
[42:59]
>> Oh, thank you.
[43:00]
>> You are welcome.
[43:01]
>> Thank you for insulting me.
[43:03]
>> I did not insults you. You
[43:05]
can take it as an insult if you,
[43:08]
want Mr. Frechette.
[43:09]
>> -- think you very much --
[43:14]
>> Mr. Frechette, you don't have
[43:16]
to raise your voice. Excuse me.
[43:17]
Tony? Thank you.
[43:20]
>> Yes.
[43:25]
>> So, I --
[43:41]
>> Yes, ma'am. Hi, I'm Bridget
[43:45]
Watson, Pointe-Claire. I had to
[43:47]
think they share tonight but it
[43:49]
turns out I have three now.
[43:51]
Because I was the person who
[43:53]
called public security on the
[43:55]
night that the -- approached us
[43:58]
and would not leave him was
[43:59]
harassing. I don't know what
[44:00]
else to say. I called Public
[44:02]
Security the next day. I said,
[44:03]
is there any follow-up that
[44:04]
needs to happen. And I was told,
[44:05]
no. So, I am assuming there was
[44:09]
a report down on something.
[44:10]
Maybe it was not a full fledged
[44:11]
report. I don't know. I've never
[44:13]
seen anything. I'm just sharing
[44:14]
with you that I am the person
[44:15]
that called. And this was after
[44:18]
repeated requests on my part to
[44:21]
ask the developer to leave and
[44:22]
to stop harassing and stop
[44:25]
pressuring the councillors and
[44:27]
the mayor to speak with him at
[44:29]
10:30 pm at night in a parking
[44:30]
lot that was badly lit. So, that
[44:33]
is my story for that. I wanted
[44:37]
also -- well, why I wanted to
[44:38]
come up here with the thank you,
[44:41]
Mr. Mayor for taking a position
[44:43]
on environmental issues. As you
[44:44]
know, I am very concerned and
[44:46]
committed to saving Fairview
[44:48]
Forest as well as other natural
[44:50]
spaces. And I am troubled, very
[44:53]
deeply troubled, by the loss of
[44:54]
bio diversity in our ecosystem
[44:56]
destruction through development.
[44:57]
I am for development, just not
[44:59]
on natural spaces.
[45:02]
So, I just want to make that
[45:04]
distinction. Because I don't
[45:05]
want to be classed as an anti
[45:07]
developer, because I am
[45:09]
definitely not. So, I'm sorry, I
[45:10]
don't have a -- well, I don't
[45:12]
know. To have a question around
[45:13]
that? No, I'm sorry, I don't. I
[45:17]
do have a little preamble before
[45:20]
my question with regard to what
[45:22]
has been happening lately. The
[45:26]
need for action, when we have
[45:27]
witnessed something we believe
[45:28]
is unacceptable is completely
[45:30]
understandable. In fact, it is
[45:32]
our responsibility to act. To
[45:33]
sit by and do nothing only adds
[45:35]
insult to injury. And it is here
[45:36]
that we must ask ourselves the
[45:38]
difficult question, how best to
[45:40]
act? When it City Council
[45:42]
decides to break caucus
[45:44]
confidentiality in response to
[45:45]
an unacceptable situation,
[45:46]
instead of making direct
[45:47]
statements to the person
[45:49]
responsible, it makes me wonder
[45:50]
if there has been enough
[45:52]
consideration on how this
[45:53]
impacts all of us. For while the
[45:56]
rush to disclose a wrongful
[45:57]
situation may make sense in that
[45:59]
moment, giving time and space
[46:01]
for those involved may have been
[46:02]
more responsible approach.
[46:05]
Because now, a precedent has
[46:06]
been set, where anyone sitting
[46:07]
around the table during a caucus
[46:09]
meeting can decide that the
[46:11]
rules can be tossed aside when
[46:12]
they feel it is necessary. Is
[46:15]
that really what you want for
[46:16]
Council and the City going
[46:18]
forward? Councillor Stainforth
[46:21]
was quoted in the West Island --
[46:28]
news it's not too late to turn
[46:30]
this situation into a teachable
[46:32]
moment but only if his
[46:33]
willingness to do that. When you
[46:35]
were all elected, you took an
[46:36]
oath of office to work on behalf
[46:40]
and for the well being of our
[46:41]
city. You are paid to do a job
[46:42]
that requires professionalism,
[46:44]
sound judgment and discernment
[46:45]
as well as being able to work
[46:47]
together despite differences of
[46:49]
opinions. If you cannot do that,
[46:51]
where does that leave us? And
[46:52]
how do we work through this
[46:54]
together? So, that was my
[46:56]
question. How do you see as
[46:57]
being able to work through this
[46:59]
so that we can -- you all, and
[47:01]
as the citizens as well -- be
[47:03]
able to go forward in a more
[47:06]
unified way, despite our
[47:07]
differences?
[47:08]
>> Do you want me to answer
[47:09]
that. Myself, personally?
[47:10]
>> Yeah, I do.
[47:12]
>> It's a good question. I
[47:13]
think, take it as a learning
[47:15]
moment, all of us. And try to
[47:17]
learn from it and move forward.
[47:18]
That's all we can do with it, I
[47:20]
think.
[47:21]
>> Okay. Thank you. Yes, I --
[47:32]
>> Good evening, Mayor and City
[47:34]
Council. You finished? My name
[47:43]
-- district seven. I feel very
[47:47]
sorry, really, and I don't know
[47:50]
what I can say about what is
[47:52]
going on on social media. It's
[47:54]
supposed to be that indoor
[47:59]
meeting is supposed to be --
[48:04]
focused on the really issue --
[48:08]
the environment, housing for
[48:12]
young families and future
[48:14]
generations. What about that
[48:19]
sentence are bad word that go
[48:20]
fly on the media and social
[48:21]
media, to make it bigger and
[48:22]
bigger and to insult people
[48:24]
more, you teaching the kids,
[48:25]
when you hear something bad, you
[48:28]
don't repeat it. And you did the
[48:30]
same thing that the kids are
[48:31]
doing. So, is that the right
[48:32]
thing?
[48:35]
I had a citizen for 30 years in
[48:38]
Pointe-Claire I never saw
[48:40]
something like what is going on.
[48:42]
Please, try to work together and
[48:45]
stop insulting the citizens of
[48:49]
Pointe-Claire. We elect the
[48:50]
Mayor and we elect all of you to
[48:53]
work for the citizens of
[48:54]
Pointe-Claire with respect.
[48:58]
>> -- respect -- fortunately,
[49:00]
there was not any for the
[49:02]
citizenry --
[49:04]
>> Repeats it -- you did the
[49:06]
same thing --
[49:08]
>> --
[49:10]
>> Look, I am not here to defend
[49:14]
anybody.
[49:15]
>> It sounds like it!
[49:17]
>> No, you misunderstand. I'm
[49:19]
not defending anybody or
[49:21]
accusing --
[49:22]
>> -- things I said.
[49:24]
>> As a citizen, I tell you what
[49:26]
I'm feeling. And what I'm
[49:27]
feeling -- already spoke about
[49:29]
it. So, I have the solution for
[49:31]
all of you. I hope, really, you
[49:33]
do it. Make all the meetings
[49:39]
public, so we know who is
[49:41]
working for the citizens and who
[49:42]
is working for the developer or
[49:45]
corporation. That is the right
[49:46]
thing. Too many -- do it. Make
[49:50]
it public. Put it the same like
[49:51]
the meeting here now, on the
[49:52]
website, do the same thing. So,
[49:54]
we know the truth. That is the
[49:58]
right thing to do, please. I am
[50:00]
asking all of you, are you going
[50:02]
to do that? Mayor, are you going
[50:04]
to do that? To put public all
[50:06]
the indoor meetings, so we can
[50:08]
know?
[50:09]
>> No, never.
[50:11]
>> Why?
[50:12]
>> It's not in me. It's not in
[50:14]
me. -- excuse me. Make publicly
[50:17]
inside meeting? No. Respectfully
[50:23]
--
[50:24]
>> Three or four or five months
[50:25]
ago, you are the first person to
[50:27]
break --
[50:29]
>> I did not.
[50:30]
>> You speak. I am being very
[50:32]
respectful here. We speak of
[50:34]
social media not expressing
[50:36]
yourself, caucus
[50:37]
confidentiality. The slippery
[50:39]
slope that started was the
[50:43]
braking of caucus
[50:47]
confidentiality and a YouTube
[50:49]
video expressing councillors
[50:52]
internal revolt. And I commend
[50:53]
you for being against that,
[50:55]
because I am. -- support caucus
[50:58]
confidentiality. We have to have
[50:59]
a free place to speak, to
[51:01]
express ourselves, to agree to
[51:02]
disagree, even if we don't get
[51:03]
along, that's fine. That must be
[51:05]
maintained. So, Mr. Mater, in
[51:11]
needs to be maintained. We are
[51:13]
not an open book. We don't have
[51:15]
an executive, like the federal
[51:16]
government. We don't have an
[51:17]
executive. You can't let 35,000
[51:19]
people into your bedroom and
[51:20]
basically say things -- we talk
[51:21]
about things that are very
[51:23]
sensitive that are of different
[51:25]
varying issues and implications
[51:27]
of upon the city that we would
[51:28]
not really want to share with
[51:30]
the public. So, caucus
[51:32]
confidentiality is critical.
[51:33]
>> But, what you are doing, what
[51:34]
you are deciding, that's for the
[51:36]
citizens, Pointe-Claire in the
[51:37]
city. We are citizens. We have
[51:39]
the right to know what is going
[51:40]
on.
[51:44]
>> Yeah.
[51:45]
>> Mr. Nasser, can I respond to
[51:51]
Councillor Stork's comment? I
[51:56]
did not break caucus
[51:57]
confidentiality. I've been
[51:58]
accused of. It -- if you follow
[52:01]
this issue and if any of the
[52:02]
doubt this you can research this
[52:05]
yourself. When I actually
[52:07]
recorded my video it was after
[52:08]
the agenda had been posted
[52:10]
publicly. So, there was no -- I
[52:13]
released no information that was
[52:15]
confidential and did not break
[52:16]
any caucus confidentiality. And
[52:18]
you can see my response on that.
[52:21]
So, that has been used as an
[52:23]
excuse, which is a wrong reason
[52:25]
to then engage in a tenfold the
[52:27]
other way do. So, I would have
[52:33]
never done what just happened.
[52:35]
And there are comments that have
[52:37]
been made in caucus that are --
[52:39]
I have spoken with other
[52:42]
councillors and we would never
[52:43]
say them. That would incriminate
[52:45]
other councillors as well. But
[52:46]
we will never say them. Because
[52:48]
it is not in us. So, I would
[52:51]
think that that ethic should
[52:52]
prevail and we should get back
[52:54]
to it, somehow, all of us,
[52:55]
absolutely.
[52:56]
>> So, what's the solution, Sir
[52:59]
--
[53:00]
>> For all of us to take it as a
[53:01]
learning moment. For all of us
[53:02]
to take it as a learning moment
[53:03]
and to learn from it -- and the
[53:05]
professional organizations that
[53:07]
were involved in this episode
[53:10]
have asked that that never be
[53:12]
done again and that, instead,
[53:14]
they should be consulted first
[53:15]
on issues that affect them. And
[53:18]
that is the learning experience
[53:20]
from this. And go back to that
[53:21]
Global News spot or speak to
[53:23]
B'nai Brith and you will
[53:24]
understand what they were saying
[53:25]
and what they were encouraging
[53:27]
and why that was, really, not a
[53:29]
positive episode for that
[53:30]
community.
[53:31]
>> Okay. For this question, I
[53:33]
hope really you find a solution
[53:35]
for that. For this question, how
[53:37]
we can avoid all that in the
[53:38]
future? And to be working
[53:40]
together as a team for the
[53:42]
citizen of Pointe-Claire in the
[53:43]
city of Pointe-Claire? That's
[53:45]
the first question. The second
[53:47]
question -- we lost already
[53:50]
young person, very intelligent
[53:53]
and smart and courage because
[53:58]
she stand up and she said the
[54:00]
right thing. So, what we can do?
[54:04]
Because, as a human being, we --
[54:07]
buy money, buy gift or buy
[54:08]
promise. She stand up and she
[54:14]
did all the right thing. So, we
[54:15]
have to support her and get her
[54:17]
back. So, what supposed to do,
[54:21]
another solution? To not anybody
[54:23]
get bullied because they say the
[54:24]
right thing? So, what's the
[54:28]
solution for that? Because I ask
[54:30]
you last time. The question, you
[54:32]
did not answer me about this.
[54:34]
>> I cannot speak for others.
[54:37]
>> No. What is supposed to be,
[54:39]
as a leader, to avoid something,
[54:41]
or to get bullied because they
[54:42]
say the right thing?
[54:44]
>> Well, you defend the person
[54:46]
from the bullying. And I did, at
[54:48]
the time --
[54:49]
>> I know you did that but not
[54:50]
all of you. So, have a solution
[54:56]
for that? I
[54:57]
>> Cannot speak for others. We
[54:58]
may not have lost her, though.
[55:02]
We may not have lost. They're
[55:03]
>> -- saying we, have to get her
[55:04]
back.
[55:05]
>> Well, this is helping. What
[55:06]
you are doing right now is
[55:08]
helping. Hopefully, she is
[55:09]
watching and hopefully she is
[55:10]
hearing.
[55:11]
>> -- she gave a quote to a
[55:13]
newspaper article saying her
[55:14]
absence has absolutely nothing
[55:15]
to do with that incident. So, we
[55:18]
need to stop acting like it does
[55:20]
and insinuating that it does, as
[55:22]
has been insinuated at every
[55:24]
Public council meeting since she
[55:27]
was yelled at from the audience,
[55:29]
like so many of us at this table
[55:31]
have been. You yourself to yell
[55:35]
things out, Mr. Nasser.
[55:36]
>> I'm not --
[55:38]
>> From your seat.
[55:40]
>> What I'm saying is, her
[55:41]
absence has nothing to do with
[55:43]
that incident. She's quoted in
[55:44]
the paper saying it, we need to
[55:45]
stop acting like it is. She has
[55:47]
her reasons that she has not
[55:48]
shared with anyone. And we need
[55:50]
to respect her privacy. And we
[55:52]
need to stop creating false
[55:54]
stories. Because she has said
[55:56]
that to people, that she is
[55:57]
tired of the gossip that is
[55:59]
going around. She said to
[56:01]
somebody I -- that I just saw.
[56:03]
And that she is tired of it
[56:05]
being insinuated, that that is
[56:07]
not what is happening here. She
[56:08]
is not not here because of that.
[56:10]
>> As a citizen, I feel the same
[56:12]
thing. Because all of the
[56:14]
argument and all what is going
[56:15]
on social media, I'm just
[56:16]
telling you. Why I am here? I'm
[56:18]
here to support the good thing
[56:19]
and to highlight the bad thing,
[56:21]
to find a solution for it. I'm
[56:23]
not here to support any body.
[56:26]
I'm here for the good open for
[56:31]
the citizen and City of
[56:32]
Pointe-Claire, to support you.
[56:33]
And what is bad thing? We have
[56:35]
to highlighted and to form a
[56:36]
solution for it. And I hope,
[56:38]
please, all of you, work
[56:41]
together as a friend or as a
[56:43]
family -- because all in
[56:46]
Pointe-Claire there is no -- all
[56:48]
-- are living together. So,
[56:50]
please, -- work all together in
[56:57]
a fair. Thank you.
[57:02]
>> Thank you. Okay, Madam
[57:03]
Thibault --
[57:09]
>>
[57:10]
Il vise entendre les
[57:11]
commentaires des citoyens
[57:12]
concernant les projets de
[57:13]
règlement visés. Ces procédures
[57:15]
est requis par la loi. Les deux
[57:17]
sont reliés
[57:18]
(inaudible)
[57:19]
de procéder en même temps à la
[57:21]
consultation pour ces deux
[57:22]
règlements. Je vais décrire
[57:23]
l'objet des deux règlements et
[57:25]
les citoyens intéressés pourront
[57:26]
se faire entendre. Si aucun
[57:28]
changement n'est requis, nous
[57:30]
procéderons l'adoption du
[57:31]
deuxième projet du règlement
[57:35]
2791 et à l'adoption du
[57:37]
Règlement 27 75 comme prévu dans
[57:38]
l'{city_council} ordre du jour.
[57:40]
>> The purpose of items 10:01
[57:43]
and ten to us to hear citizens
[57:44]
comments on the two draft bylaws
[57:46]
in question. This procedure is
[57:47]
required by the act. The two are
[57:49]
related, so it will be more
[57:51]
efficient to proceed at the same
[57:53]
time, to the consultation for
[57:55]
these two bylaws. I will first
[57:56]
describe the purpose of these
[57:57]
two bylaws and then interested
[57:59]
citizens will be able to be
[58:00]
heard. Afterwards, if no changes
[58:03]
are required, Council will
[58:04]
proceed with the adoption of the
[58:07]
second draft of and 2781 the
[58:14]
option of PC-2775. --
[58:16]
10.01 Consultation publique
[58:17]
concernant un projet de
[58:18]
règlement modifiant le règlement
[58:19]
de zonage PC-2775 afin de
[58:20]
remplacer, dans la
[58:21]
classification des usages
[58:22]
industriels de l'annexe 4, la
[58:23]
définition de « Classe « B » -
[58:24]
Établissement de fabrication »
[58:25]
par « Établissement de
[58:26]
transformation et/ou de
[58:27]
fabrication ».
[58:33]
La modification vise à réviser
[58:35]
les modifier la classe B,
[58:40]
faisant partie de la
[58:42]
classification industrielle dans
[58:43]
le but d'y inclure le concept de
[58:47]
production artisanale. The
[58:49]
proposed amendment revises and
[58:52]
amended F mission of
[58:55]
manufacturing facilities with a
[58:57]
-- production facility.
[59:02]
10.02 Consultation publique
[59:03]
concernant un projet de
[59:04]
règlement modifiant le règlement
[59:05]
PC-2791 sur les usages
[59:06]
conditionnels afin de permettre
[59:07]
des activités additionnelles à
[59:08]
même certains établissements de
[59:09]
transformation et/ou de
[59:10]
fabrication faisant partie
[59:11]
intégrante de la classification
[59:12]
des usages industriels.
[59:17]
Le projet de règlement
[59:20]
concernant les zones situées
[59:21]
dans les secteurs industriels de
[59:23]
la ville. Il vise à permettre un
[59:28]
local utilisé à des fins
[59:29]
industrielles certaines
[59:31]
activités additionnelles, telles
[59:32]
que la consommation sur place ou
[59:34]
la vente de produits fabriqués
[59:36]
sur site. The draft bylaw
[59:42]
concerns zone nine and 11
[59:44]
indicated in the industrial
[59:45]
sector. It aims
[59:46]
Within a premises used within
[59:48]
industrial purposes. Certain
[59:51]
additional activities such as
[59:53]
onsite conception, or the sale
[59:55]
of products manufactured on
[59:56]
site. Citizens are invited to go
[1:00:02]
to the microphone if they have
[1:00:05]
comments or question about it.
[1:00:11]
>>
[1:00:12]
City council members, my name is
[1:00:13]
-- my partner Alex sent, us the
[1:00:15]
owners of -- in district seven,
[1:00:20]
in Erik's district. Running
[1:00:23]
business is hard, and it's hard
[1:00:25]
without government support in
[1:00:27]
allowing those to adapt to tough
[1:00:28]
times, especially post pandemic?
[1:00:30]
For the first three years of our
[1:00:32]
business, we are doubling our
[1:00:33]
revenues every year until the
[1:00:36]
pandemic hit. During that time,
[1:00:38]
a lot of businesses were shut
[1:00:39]
down, two of our four panels
[1:00:42]
going to mark it were closed
[1:00:43]
down completely. The province,
[1:00:46]
the government, not the city,
[1:00:48]
but other bodies of government,
[1:00:50]
did little to help us besides
[1:00:53]
providing more and more debt.
[1:00:55]
Every theory that was out there
[1:00:57]
in Québec turned to canning, and
[1:01:00]
flooded the market with
[1:01:02]
additional product. It was hard
[1:01:03]
for us to keep up with that. We
[1:01:08]
all the businesses were
[1:01:09]
impacted, everybody had to
[1:01:11]
adapt, high tech had to adapt,
[1:01:17]
business plans that were created
[1:01:19]
years ago had been changed, and
[1:01:20]
we are looking for governments
[1:01:21]
to keep up with those changes.
[1:01:25]
All around us, and other cities
[1:01:28]
surrounding Pointe-Claire, in
[1:01:29]
vote drawing, in Dorval, in
[1:01:32]
Montréal, governments, the
[1:01:34]
cities, the governments changing
[1:01:36]
their bylaws, industrial zoning
[1:01:37]
to allow for consumption --
[1:01:42]
consummate yourself class for
[1:01:43]
entertainment, for food, for
[1:01:46]
restaurant permits to allow them
[1:01:47]
to continue to operate. We find
[1:01:49]
our customer base needs, or is
[1:01:54]
demanding additional things for
[1:01:55]
when they want to go out and
[1:01:56]
spend their hard earned money,
[1:01:58]
especially in these inflation
[1:01:59]
times. They don't want to go out
[1:02:00]
and get one thing. They want to
[1:02:02]
do many things at the same time.
[1:02:06]
This past summer was really
[1:02:08]
difficult for us. We had been
[1:02:11]
granted an exception to use a
[1:02:13]
terrasse, or build a terrasse on
[1:02:14]
our own dollar. Last summer was
[1:02:18]
a good summer, even though we
[1:02:20]
were closed inside. We were
[1:02:21]
allowed to continue operating.
[1:02:23]
This past summer, we were told
[1:02:24]
we were unable to use the
[1:02:26]
terrasse, which we had paid for,
[1:02:29]
and only at the end of the
[1:02:30]
summer, did the city say you
[1:02:32]
could have actually been using
[1:02:34]
the terrasse, there was a
[1:02:35]
mistake made. Since then, we've
[1:02:38]
been told we need to remove the
[1:02:39]
terrasse, which we have. So, we
[1:02:41]
are looking for the proper
[1:02:45]
direction, or the proper
[1:02:46]
guidance to go through bylaw
[1:02:48]
zoning changes. So that we could
[1:02:49]
get the things that we need to
[1:02:51]
continue to operate. I will let
[1:02:54]
my partner, Alex, here, make
[1:02:56]
additional comments. Thanks.
[1:02:58]
>> Yeah, hi. So, some of you
[1:03:03]
I've met over time, at the
[1:03:05]
brewery, and trying to explain
[1:03:07]
to you guys what is important
[1:03:09]
for a microbrewery to survive,
[1:03:10]
and to compete against fellow
[1:03:12]
microbreweries, is just that,
[1:03:14]
the identity of being an
[1:03:15]
industrial zone, being able to
[1:03:16]
produce good beer, being able to
[1:03:18]
offer food, our entertainment,
[1:03:20]
offer a terrasse, it's the pure
[1:03:21]
identity of what a microbrewery
[1:03:23]
is. I've been suggested by some
[1:03:26]
of the members to focus on
[1:03:29]
distribution, and for a
[1:03:30]
microbrewery, it doesn't start
[1:03:32]
with distribution. It has to
[1:03:33]
start locally. Our local. We
[1:03:35]
serve our citizens of
[1:03:37]
Pointe-Claire with great beer,
[1:03:39]
great place to socialize to have
[1:03:41]
good conversations about
[1:03:42]
business, and to build events
[1:03:44]
for charity, which we
[1:03:48]
participate ever more so today
[1:03:49]
stage. It's very important for
[1:03:51]
us to understand that the
[1:03:55]
industry has progressed, it's
[1:03:57]
changed, and like was mentioned
[1:03:58]
before, the consumers are way
[1:04:00]
more demanding today than they
[1:04:01]
were back then. Our laws need to
[1:04:05]
change quicker than they have in
[1:04:06]
the past, to sustain the change
[1:04:08]
of society today, and the way
[1:04:12]
consumers see it. So, you know,
[1:04:15]
we find it, right now, for us,
[1:04:17]
it's an unfair advantage
[1:04:18]
compared to other
[1:04:20]
microbreweries. The possibility
[1:04:22]
of serving food and having a
[1:04:23]
terrasse, and we look at our
[1:04:26]
friends in Dorval, they opened
[1:04:29]
their second brew house in
[1:04:31]
Dorval, in this industrial zone.
[1:04:34]
The city went up and said you
[1:04:35]
can only install yourself here
[1:04:36]
if you open a restaurant along
[1:04:39]
with the brewery. They're
[1:04:40]
imposing the service of food
[1:04:42]
because it's a good principle
[1:04:44]
and response to serve food and,
[1:04:47]
serve beer and half of it along
[1:04:48]
with it. Yeah. If there's
[1:04:55]
something else, I'm sorry, I'm
[1:04:56]
feeling a little bit under the
[1:04:57]
weather today. All this to say,
[1:05:05]
try and I, we poured our heart
[1:05:09]
out into this business. Even if
[1:05:12]
it ourselves tremendously over
[1:05:13]
the last years. Because of
[1:05:15]
COVID. We tried to explain what
[1:05:17]
is the business about, and we
[1:05:19]
seem to have not received the
[1:05:22]
proper response to it. We are
[1:05:23]
here pleading our case, like we
[1:05:24]
really need things to change, to
[1:05:26]
have the same level of playing
[1:05:28]
ground as competitors. I feel
[1:05:32]
it's unfortunate for us to not
[1:05:34]
have been heard earlier, and we
[1:05:36]
have put our life savings into
[1:05:38]
this business which, if we don't
[1:05:39]
have a change today, we don't
[1:05:40]
know how we will make it to
[1:05:42]
survive. We can't reach out to
[1:05:43]
the consumers as we once did.
[1:05:46]
Another thing I find unfair is,
[1:05:49]
in the same industrial zone,
[1:05:50]
there is a giant retailer that
[1:05:52]
is able to produce, whether it's
[1:05:58]
kicks, bread, processed meat.
[1:06:02]
They are a retailer, it
[1:06:04]
manufacturer as well. They're
[1:06:05]
able to serve food. We all know
[1:06:08]
who it is, it's Costco, and they
[1:06:09]
are allowed to, in the same
[1:06:11]
industrial zone, themselves, sir
[1:06:12]
food. We've been asking why we
[1:06:15]
couldn't do it. All this time.
[1:06:17]
There are reasons for, it may be
[1:06:19]
valid reasons that is, and this
[1:06:20]
is why, today, we are asking for
[1:06:22]
a change in our bylaws, in our
[1:06:24]
zoning, where we are, so we
[1:06:27]
can't allow to have this extra
[1:06:31]
possibility to serve our
[1:06:32]
customers better.
[1:06:36]
>> Something else?
[1:06:37]
>> I'm good.
[1:06:38]
>> Anyways, I hope that, you
[1:06:40]
know, I tell people, there are
[1:06:41]
two types of people, those that
[1:06:43]
don't change, and the people
[1:06:44]
that do change. Usually, you
[1:06:46]
know, those that change, they
[1:06:47]
usually survive. Those that
[1:06:49]
don't change, they get absolute.
[1:06:50]
Hopefully, they make the right
[1:06:52]
decision and make a change
[1:06:53]
today. Thank you very much!
[1:06:55]
>> Well, it's an interesting
[1:06:56]
issue, gentlemen. I know your
[1:07:00]
product, I quite like your
[1:07:01]
product, and I'd like to have
[1:07:04]
local brewery in Pointe-Claire,
[1:07:05]
I really would. A microbrewery
[1:07:07]
in Pointe-Claire. I support what
[1:07:08]
you're trying to do. There are a
[1:07:10]
couple of issues that are
[1:07:12]
important to note here. When
[1:07:13]
needed start to the business,
[1:07:14]
you started it in a zoning where
[1:07:17]
there was no permit for what
[1:07:18]
you're asking to do. You did
[1:07:20]
know that going in. What has
[1:07:24]
happened as a result of that is
[1:07:25]
that, a lot of us, my fellow
[1:07:29]
councillors and I, sympathize,
[1:07:31]
and have worked very hard, and
[1:07:35]
you are, step-by-step, doing
[1:07:37]
well, and there is a willingness
[1:07:40]
to change, as you suggest, and,
[1:07:42]
maybe, to look at the rules of
[1:07:44]
Pointe-Claire. They are the
[1:07:45]
rules of Pointe-Claire. Offhand,
[1:07:47]
things are looking positive, so
[1:07:49]
I wouldn't get too upset about
[1:07:51]
things at the moment. I am sorry
[1:07:53]
to hear that there was a mistake
[1:07:54]
made, I like to follow that up a
[1:07:56]
bit more. The other thing I
[1:07:58]
think you'd have to bear in
[1:07:59]
mind, we had the blues fest this
[1:08:02]
summer, and we have complaints
[1:08:04]
about noise from certain
[1:08:06]
residents. It is how close you
[1:08:07]
are to residential areas,
[1:08:09]
whether loud music or volume
[1:08:11]
matter. I think Costco is
[1:08:13]
playing music or doing anything
[1:08:14]
of high volume. I don't know if
[1:08:16]
they are or are close to
[1:08:17]
residential. I'm not sure. These
[1:08:20]
are variables that factor into
[1:08:22]
this equation. There are forces
[1:08:24]
in Pointe-Claire that don't want
[1:08:28]
commercial businesses doing --
[1:08:29]
you know, having a terrasse, and
[1:08:31]
food in industrial zones. There
[1:08:32]
are forces out there that are
[1:08:34]
against that. Allow us to try.
[1:08:36]
We are trying. We are
[1:08:37]
sympathetic. Most of us feel
[1:08:40]
positive about what you are
[1:08:41]
trying to do, and are working
[1:08:43]
for you. So, stay
[1:08:46]
interconnected, as you've done
[1:08:47]
in the past, and let's,
[1:08:48]
step-by-step, let us go forward
[1:08:50]
and see what we come up with.
[1:08:51]
>> Let me just comment on two
[1:08:53]
points there.
[1:08:54]
>> Okay.
[1:08:55]
>> First, yes, we knew what it
[1:08:57]
was, the zoning, when we got in,
[1:08:58]
six years ago, when we installed
[1:09:00]
ourselves. But, if you look at
[1:09:03]
businesses run today, and that,
[1:09:05]
five years ago has nothing to do
[1:09:07]
with one or the other, forget
[1:09:08]
what was done to years ago, what
[1:09:10]
has done in today's business,
[1:09:11]
nothing for one of the other. We
[1:09:13]
can't keep giving that excuse,
[1:09:15]
saying you guys knew ahead of
[1:09:16]
time. No, business is change,
[1:09:18]
people change, society changes,
[1:09:19]
this is my point from the
[1:09:20]
beginning, that you can't keep
[1:09:22]
having these laws that are
[1:09:23]
written a long time ago, and
[1:09:26]
just keep applying them, and not
[1:09:28]
serve the population today the
[1:09:31]
way they should be served.
[1:09:32]
Things change, and we have to
[1:09:33]
understand that. Second, when it
[1:09:36]
came -- I'm sorry.
[1:09:42]
(inaudible)
[1:09:49]
>> Go ahead.
[1:09:54]
>> One of your points ways noise
[1:09:56]
complaints, outside music,
[1:09:57]
playing on the terrasse. -- up
[1:10:02]
to over fest, which took a long
[1:10:04]
time to get the temporary permit
[1:10:07]
for one day. -- for when that to
[1:10:10]
happen. What we are requesting
[1:10:12]
is more of a continuous
[1:10:13]
operation thing, playing music
[1:10:15]
inside, the ability to acoustic
[1:10:17]
music or a small band inside,
[1:10:20]
seafood inside for the majority
[1:10:21]
of the year. And then, on
[1:10:23]
occasion, the one event per
[1:10:25]
year, an Oktoberfest event,
[1:10:28]
which -- we were very
[1:10:29]
respectful. I got any complaints
[1:10:31]
about music. Who is very quiet,
[1:10:32]
very.
[1:10:33]
>> I even took a video and
[1:10:36]
walked all the way towards the
[1:10:40]
end of our land, the back of the
[1:10:42]
building. And we are right at
[1:10:44]
offence, with the residents next
[1:10:46]
door. And you cannot hear
[1:10:48]
anything from the front of the
[1:10:49]
building.
[1:10:50]
>> It is just impossible. We
[1:10:52]
have those trucks, those trucks
[1:10:54]
as well that are across from our
[1:10:56]
brewery. There is no way they
[1:10:58]
are making noise. So, I
[1:11:01]
understand, that's a concern.
[1:11:02]
And I would respect that. And we
[1:11:04]
would do anything not to disrupt
[1:11:06]
the residents around us. That's
[1:11:08]
not the goal here. But I invite
[1:11:10]
you guys to come and see for
[1:11:12]
yourselves, if we do make noise
[1:11:14]
and, if we do disturb the people
[1:11:16]
around us. Because we obviously
[1:11:18]
don't. I have checked myself.
[1:11:20]
>> That's very positive. And
[1:11:22]
here's hoping going forward that
[1:11:23]
we can keep going forward in the
[1:11:26]
direction you would hope was to.
[1:11:28]
And let's see what we come up
[1:11:30]
with a, all of us together.
[1:11:32]
>> Thank you.
[1:11:33]
>> Thanks, gentlemen.
[1:11:45]
>> The public consultation is
[1:11:48]
over. I think so? Unless --
[1:11:53]
okay. We can move on with the
[1:11:58]
agenda.
[1:12:00]
>> Okay.
[1:12:03]
Deux autres, avis de motion
[1:12:05]
modifiant le Règlement baisser
[1:12:07]
25 sur la consommation... les
[1:12:10]
peines. D'une passe, certains
[1:12:11]
articles doivent être abrogé
[1:12:12]
puisqu'ils ne sont plus
[1:12:13]
applicables. En second lieu, le
[1:12:17]
tarif des contraventions doivent
[1:12:18]
être modifiées pour être
[1:12:19]
cohérent avec l'ensemble du
[1:12:20]
territoire de l'île de Montréal.
[1:12:23]
>> Who
[1:12:24]
- Gives this notice of motion?
[1:12:26]
Je propose Bruno Tremblay,
[1:12:27]
district six. 1005 --
[1:12:41]
Conditional Uses By-law PC-2791.
[1:12:42]
In order to prevent additional
[1:12:45]
activities in processing or
[1:12:47]
manufacturing facilities which
[1:12:48]
are part of the industrial use
[1:12:52]
classification. The bylaw has
[1:12:54]
already been explained.
[1:12:56]
Disons, cela d'option
[1:12:57]
directement de zonage PC 27 75
[1:12:59]
afin de remplacer dans la
[1:13:01]
classification des usages
[1:13:02]
industriels de l'annexe quatre.
[1:13:04]
La définition de classe B,
[1:13:06]
établissement de fabrication par
[1:13:08]
établissement de confrontation
[1:13:09]
ou de fabrication. Le règlement
[1:13:11]
a également été expliqué plutôt.
[1:13:17]
10.07 Adoption of a by-law
[1:13:18]
respecting the adoption of a
[1:13:20]
revised code of ethics and good
[1:13:23]
conduct for City of
[1:13:24]
Pointe-Claire employees. A the
[1:13:29]
code of -- for municipal
[1:13:31]
employees is being amended to
[1:13:33]
include elements that include
[1:13:34]
cases of theft or fraud. In
[1:13:36]
addition, we have taken into
[1:13:38]
account for the -- of changes
[1:13:40]
for the municipal ethics act
[1:13:43]
regarding -- the act requires
[1:13:46]
municipalities to prohibit
[1:13:48]
certain employees for a period
[1:13:50]
of 12 months after leaving
[1:13:52]
office from holding a position
[1:13:54]
as a director or officer of a
[1:13:57]
corporation, employment or any
[1:13:59]
other office that would give
[1:14:00]
them or any other person
[1:14:03]
improper advantage from their
[1:14:04]
previous position for the city.
[1:14:08]
Dix virgule, c'est l'option de
[1:14:10]
règlement modifiant le Règlement
[1:14:12]
PC 25 65 sur la consultation des
[1:14:13]
parcs de stationnement ouvert au
[1:14:15]
public. La modification
[1:14:17]
réglementaire est pour permettre
[1:14:18]
l'application du règlement sur
[1:14:20]
la circulation, plus
[1:14:22]
spécifiquement l'annexe G 1 par
[1:14:24]
que ouvert au public. Au 285
[1:14:27]
boulevard Hymus et ainsi émettre
[1:14:28]
des constats d'infraction
[1:14:29]
suivant la signalisation et le
[1:14:30]
marquage en vigueur. 10.09
[1:14:36]
Adoption of a by-law amending
[1:14:37]
the Nuisances By-law PC-1495.
[1:14:40]
the amendment is intended, among
[1:14:42]
other things, to allow the use
[1:14:44]
of generators, notwithstanding
[1:14:46]
noise regulations during power
[1:14:48]
outages or service interruptions
[1:14:50]
or when tests much be conducted
[1:14:52]
on the equipment.
[1:14:55]
The other modifications are of a
[1:14:57]
clerical nature.
[1:15:01]
Si le dépôt des certificats
[1:15:03]
concernant les registres... --
[1:15:12]
until, from -- to
[1:15:17]
>> Do I have a mover? Kelly
[1:15:21]
Thorstad-Cullen, district three.
[1:15:23]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:15:24]
>> I oppose it.
[1:15:28]
Monsieur Bissonnette, vous votez
[1:15:30]
contre tous les sujets? Vous
[1:15:36]
votez contre dix. 0 5
[1:15:39]
uniquement? O.K..
[1:15:53]
Dix dix, déposé le certificat
[1:15:56]
concernant les registres connue
[1:15:57]
relativement au règlement
[1:15:59]
d'emprunt B C. 29 51, 29 52 et
[1:16:03]
29 53. Aucune signature n'a été
[1:16:05]
reçue pendant le cinq jours de
[1:16:06]
registre. Le Règlement pour
[1:16:08]
mémoire, le 29 51, concerne un
[1:16:11]
emprunt de 1 million 610000
[1:16:12]
dollars pour des travaux de
[1:16:14]
voirie, des travaux sur la voie
[1:16:15]
de service nord de l'autoroute
[1:16:17]
40. Le 29 52 et un emprunt de 1
[1:16:20]
million 610000 dollars
[1:16:21]
concernant les travaux pour les
[1:16:22]
parcs et espaces verts. Le 29 53
[1:16:25]
concerne un emprunt de 5
[1:16:27]
millions 500000 dollars pour le
[1:16:28]
bâtiment des Travaux publics,
[1:16:30]
phase un. C'est simplement un
[1:16:36]
dépôt, alors... 10.11 Consider
[1:16:40]
the site planning and
[1:16:41]
architectural integration
[1:16:42]
programme plans with respect to
[1:16:43]
the properties hereunder
[1:16:44]
mentioned: - 145 Prince-Edward
[1:16:51]
Avenue, major extinction, - 106
[1:16:52]
Parkdale Avenue, extension
[1:16:54]
exterior renovation, and - 44
[1:16:56]
Drayton Avenue., Addition of a
[1:16:58]
veranda and exterior
[1:17:00]
renovations. Do I
[1:17:01]
>> Have a mover?
[1:17:04]
>> Tara Stainforth, district
[1:17:05]
four.
[1:17:09]
>> Seconder?
[1:17:10]
>> --
[1:17:11]
>> All in favour?
[1:17:14]
>> Mr. Mayor, I voted in support
[1:17:21]
of 145 -- however I vote against
[1:17:23]
44 Drayton Avenue. There are
[1:17:26]
certain aspects of this spate of
[1:17:29]
regulations I would like to
[1:17:30]
review, particularly for areas
[1:17:34]
-- particularly for this area,
[1:17:37]
that 44 Drayton Avenue he's
[1:17:38]
located in. Therefore, I vote
[1:17:40]
against 44 Drayton Avenue. Thank
[1:17:41]
you.
[1:17:48]
Bon, les personnes présentes
[1:17:49]
peuvent secteurs c'est aux
[1:17:50]
conséquences dans le sujet
[1:17:51]
ci-dessous pour les items dix,
[1:17:54]
12, à dix à 13. -- the person's
[1:17:58]
president may address Council --
[1:18:03]
items dix 12, 10.12 and
[1:18:04]
considérer une demande de
[1:18:05]
dérogation mineure pour
[1:18:06]
permettre 10.13 --
[1:18:07]
Aux cinq, avenue sur Cole une
[1:18:09]
marge avant de 6,92 mètre plutôt
[1:18:11]
que le minimum requis de 10
[1:18:12]
mètres. -- 10.13 consider a
[1:18:19]
minor exemption request --
[1:18:23]
crescent avenue -- rather than
[1:18:25]
the minimum required of 7.5
[1:18:26]
metres and be a side setback of
[1:18:30]
2.1 metre metres rather than a
[1:18:31]
minimum part of 2.4 metres.
[1:18:37]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:18:40]
>> -- district to
[1:18:42]
>> Tara Stainforth, district
[1:18:43]
four.
[1:18:44]
>> All in favour?.
[1:18:49]
20 0 un, déposé la liste des
[1:18:51]
amendements budgétaires pour la
[1:18:52]
période du 20 octobre au 23
[1:18:53]
novembre 2022 et le registre des
[1:18:55]
chèques pour la période du 20
[1:18:57]
octobre 2022 au 23 novembre
[1:18:58]
2022. 20.02 File the extract
[1:19:04]
from the public register
[1:19:05]
containing disclosure statements
[1:19:06]
of any gifts, hospitality and
[1:19:07]
all other benefits exceeding $
[1:19:09]
200 having been received by a
[1:19:11]
Council member.
[1:19:16]
>> No mention was made in the
[1:19:18]
register during the last year
[1:19:23]
20 0 trois, déposé la
[1:19:25]
Déclaration d'intérêts de
[1:19:26]
pécuniaires de tous les membres
[1:19:27]
du conseil. Comme à chaque année
[1:19:29]
dans les 72 de la date
[1:19:30]
d'anniversaire de la réélection,
[1:19:31]
les membres du conseil doivent
[1:19:33]
déposer une déclaration de leurs
[1:19:34]
intérêts pécuniaires. 20 0 4
[1:19:42]
20.04 Approve the calendar à 20
[1:19:43]
dix. Setting the dates and times
[1:19:44]
of the regular meetings of
[1:19:45]
Council for the year 2023. it
[1:19:50]
will be posted on the City
[1:19:52]
website once adopted. 20.05
[1:19:55]
Autoriser un soutien financier à
[1:19:56]
la campagne « Centraide 2022 »
[1:19:57]
au montant équivalent à 75% de
[1:19:58]
la contribution des employés. La
[1:20:05]
Ville remettra 34000
[1:20:06]
(---)
[1:20:07]
à Centraide incluant les dons
[1:20:09]
recueillis par les employés au
[1:20:11]
montant de 17373 et 60.
[1:20:17]
20.06 Designate an authorized
[1:20:18]
representative for the signing
[1:20:20]
of requests and any required
[1:20:22]
document for the Ministère des
[1:20:23]
Forêts, de la Faune et des Parcs
[1:20:27]
for the year 2023. Some projects
[1:20:29]
require an authorization from
[1:20:34]
the forest ministry. To do so,
[1:20:35]
it must be signed by
[1:20:37]
unauthorized person, the press
[1:20:38]
purpose of this resolution is to
[1:20:40]
authorize Mr. been what video,
[1:20:42]
acting director engineering to
[1:20:45]
sign required documents if
[1:20:46]
necessary. 20.07 Désigner un
[1:20:47]
représentant autorisé à signer
[1:20:48]
des demandes d'autorisation et
[1:20:49]
tous documents requis pour le
[1:20:50]
Ministère de l'Environnement et
[1:20:51]
de la Lutte contre les
[1:20:52]
changements climatiques, pour
[1:20:53]
l'année 2023.
[1:21:13]
Les signer les documents requis
[1:21:14]
encore de besoins.
[1:21:15]
20.08 Renew the Union des
[1:21:16]
municipalités du Québec
[1:21:18]
membership for the year 2023.
[1:21:22]
the annual membership fee for
[1:21:24]
the year 2023 is 22,040 to --
[1:21:30]
$42.56. In addition, the city
[1:21:33]
wishes to join the Humane
[1:21:37]
Society, which is $17,084.14 for
[1:21:44]
a total amount of $49,126.69,
[1:21:49]
including taxes. 20.09 Autoriser
[1:21:50]
le maire, ainsi qu'un
[1:21:51]
(e)
[1:21:52]
invité
[1:21:53]
(e)
[1:21:54]
ou un membre du conseil, à
[1:21:55]
représenter la Ville de
[1:21:56]
Pointe-Claire au 24e bal annuel
[1:21:57]
de la SaintValentin au profit de
[1:21:58]
la résidence de soins palliatifs
[1:21:59]
Teresa-Dellar.
[1:22:07]
Le coût est de 550 dollars par
[1:22:09]
personne pour un total de 1500
[1:22:10]
dollars.
[1:22:11]
20.10 Appoint members to the
[1:22:12]
Environment and Sustainable
[1:22:14]
Development Advisory Committee,
[1:22:15]
as well as renew mandates. The
[1:22:21]
citizen members are, Geneviève,
[1:22:25]
Isabelle, Rebecca Burns, Gary
[1:22:28]
speller, Patricia, Alison
[1:22:30]
surveyor. The members of City
[1:22:35]
Council are, Kelly
[1:22:37]
Thorstad-Cullen, we Bruno
[1:22:39]
Tremblay. City employers are
[1:22:41]
Sophie parity and Vincent.
[1:22:42]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:22:45]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:22:46]
district three.
[1:22:47]
>> Seconder?
[1:22:48]
>> Seconded, Bruno Tremblay,
[1:22:49]
district six.
[1:22:50]
>> All in favour?
[1:22:55]
>> I am in favour of all except
[1:22:58]
20.09, I feel we need to align
[1:22:59]
ourselves like other cities and
[1:23:01]
pay only for council members or
[1:23:03]
the mayor.
[1:23:12]
>> 30.01 to --
[1:23:13]
>> Mr. Mayor, may I?
[1:23:14]
>> Yeah.
[1:23:15]
>> Thank you for that
[1:23:16]
intervention, Councillor
[1:23:18]
Stainforth. We did speak about
[1:23:20]
that in the caucus meeting
[1:23:23]
previously. It's something we
[1:23:24]
are looking to codify.
[1:23:30]
>> Okay. 30.01 Approuver et
[1:23:32]
autoriser des modifications à
[1:23:33]
l'entente relative à des travaux
[1:23:34]
municipaux intervenue avec
[1:23:35]
9363-9763 QUÉBEC INC.
[1:23:36]
(KUBIK)
[1:23:37]
. Un délai supplémentaire dans
[1:23:40]
le but de permettre de compléter
[1:23:43]
les travaux, l'obligation de sa
[1:23:45]
responsabilité au 15 juin 2023,
[1:23:46]
il s'agit de la seconde
[1:23:48]
prolongation dans ce dossier.
[1:23:49]
Des facteurs qui expliquent tels
[1:23:52]
que la pénurie de main-d'oeuvre
[1:23:53]
et la COVID-19.
[1:23:54]
30.02 Confirm the adhesion of
[1:23:55]
the City of PointeClaire to
[1:23:56]
« Centre acquisitions
[1:23:59]
gouvernementales » regrouping
[1:24:00]
for the purchase of new,
[1:24:01]
retreated and remolded tires for
[1:24:02]
the period of April 1, 2023 to
[1:24:04]
March 31, 2026. the city of
[1:24:10]
Pointe-Claire which is to
[1:24:11]
participate in this purchase for
[1:24:13]
new or treat in tires for its
[1:24:15]
needs of the period of April
[1:24:17]
1st, 2023, to March 31st, 2026,
[1:24:21]
we are present and expenditure
[1:24:23]
of -- 297,160 dollar, taxes
[1:24:28]
included, and benefits from a
[1:24:30]
better price to obtain for the
[1:24:31]
activity. 30.03 Se prévaloir de
[1:24:34]
l'option de renouvellement
[1:24:35]
prévue au contrat intervenu avec
[1:24:36]
ÉQUIPEMENTS EMU LTÉE, pour la
[1:24:37]
fourniture et la livraison, à
[1:24:38]
location, d'un chariot élévateur
[1:24:39]
au propane clé en main, pour
[1:24:40]
l'année 2023, pour un montant
[1:24:41]
total de 13054,72$, taxes
[1:24:42]
incluses.
[1:24:48]
Il s'agit de la dernière année
[1:24:50]
d'option prévue au contrat
[1:24:51]
initial a octroyé en 2002.
[1:24:54]
30.04 Exercise the option
[1:24:55]
foreseen in the contract entered
[1:24:57]
into with STINSON ITS INC., For
[1:24:58]
the purchase of seven fixed
[1:25:00]
radar units, for the year 2023,
[1:25:01]
for a total
[1:25:07]
amount of $ 29,195.53, taxes
[1:25:08]
included. This is the first
[1:25:13]
option under the original
[1:25:14]
contract that were in 2022.
[1:25:17]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:25:20]
>> Terrace team fourth, district
[1:25:22]
four.
[1:25:24]
>> Seconder?
[1:25:25]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:25:26]
>> All in favour?
[1:25:31]
>> Okay, 30.05 to 30.10. 30.05
[1:25:33]
Se prévaloir de l'option de
[1:25:35]
renouvellement prévue au contrat
[1:25:36]
intervenu avec LES RÉNOVATIONS
[1:25:38]
JOCELYN DÉCOSTE INC., pour des
[1:25:39]
travaux de contrôle d'espèces
[1:25:40]
végétales exotiques
[1:25:41]
envahissantes et d'entretien en
[1:25:42]
milieux naturels dans le parc
[1:25:43]
Terra-Cotta et autres sites de
[1:25:44]
la Ville, pour l'année 2023,
[1:25:48]
pour un montant total de
[1:25:49]
154940,31$, taxes incluses. La
[1:25:52]
première année d'{city_council}
[1:25:53]
option au Contrat initial
[1:25:55]
accordant 2022. 30.06, award the
[1:26:03]
contract with PG SOLUTIONS, for
[1:26:04]
the supply of maintenance and
[1:26:05]
technical assistance services
[1:26:06]
for various software, for the
[1:26:07]
year 2023, for a total amount of
[1:26:08]
$ 170,716.03, taxes included.
[1:26:14]
The concerns for -- document --
[1:26:21]
and access the ongoing. 30.07 Se
[1:26:23]
prévaloir de l'option de
[1:26:25]
renouvellement prévue au contrat
[1:26:26]
intervenu avec MOTION INDUSTRIES
[1:26:27]
CANADA INC., Pour la fourniture
[1:26:28]
de pièces, d'outils et
[1:26:29]
d'équipements en mécanique du
[1:26:30]
bâtiment, pour l'année 2023,
[1:26:31]
pour un montant total de 90000$,
[1:26:32]
taxes incluses.
[1:26:36]
Il s'agit de la dernière année
[1:26:37]
d'option de contrat initial
[1:26:39]
Octroyé en 2018. 30.08 Exercise
[1:26:40]
the option foreseen in the
[1:26:42]
contract undertaken with 100%
[1:26:45]
ENVIRONNEMENTAL, for the supply
[1:26:48]
of services for the City's
[1:26:49]
mobile Ecocentre, for the year
[1:26:51]
2023, for a total amount of $
[1:26:53]
172,634.96, taxes included. This
[1:27:03]
is the final option of a
[1:27:04]
regional contract awarded in
[1:27:05]
2019. 30.09 Se prévaloir de
[1:27:09]
l'option de renouvellement
[1:27:10]
prévue au contrat intervenu avec
[1:27:11]
GESTION USD INC., pour la
[1:27:14]
fourniture et la distribution de
[1:27:15]
bacs roulants pour les matières
[1:27:16]
résiduelles sur le territoire de
[1:27:17]
la Ville, pour l'année 2023,
[1:27:18]
pour un montant total de
[1:27:19]
123237,39$, taxes incluses. Il
[1:27:24]
s'agit de la seule année
[1:27:25]
d'option de contrat initiale
[1:27:27]
octroyé en 2019. Le contrat pour
[1:27:30]
2023 vise la distribution de
[1:27:32]
bacs et d'autres services
[1:27:34]
disponibles pour le contrat
[1:27:35]
initial et feront l'objet
[1:27:36]
d'autres résolutions en cas de
[1:27:37]
besoin.
[1:27:45]
- Bruno Tremblay, -- je propose
[1:27:46]
de se prévoir Loire des options
[1:27:49]
énumérées -- do I have a mover?
[1:27:50]
(---)
[1:27:56]
>> And seconder?
[1:27:57]
>> -- district to.
[1:28:00]
>> All in favour?
[1:28:03]
>> Okay 30.10 Se prévaloir de
[1:28:04]
l'option de renouvellement prévu
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au contrat intervenu avec
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TRAFFIC INNOVATION INC., Pour
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la, fourniture et l'installation
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de signaux de passage pour
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piétons, type feux
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rectangulaires à clignotement
[1:28:11]
rapide
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(FRCR)
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30.10, pour l'année 2023, pour
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un montant total de 25000$, to
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taxes incluses. -- crosswalk,
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signage -- rapid flashing for
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the -- year 2023, for a total
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amount of $ 25, 000, taxes
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included. This is the final
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option here of the 30.11 Se
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prévaloir de original contract
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award in l'option de
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renouvellement prévue au contrat
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intervenu 2021.
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Avec J.A. LARUE INC., pour la
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fourniture et la livraison d'une
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souffleuse à neige détachable
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neuf pour chargeur sur roues,
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pour l'année 2023, pour un
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montant total de 193098,21$, il
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s'agit d'une option disponible
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dans le contrat initial
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octroyant 2021.
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-- 13.12 park
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-- tax included -- the work in
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-- a small accessible building
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that will -- for you's. This
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includes the construction of a
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concrete slab, the construction
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of service connection and --
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choice of colour and addition of
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landscaping will be discussed in
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the coming weeks.
[1:29:24]
, 30 à 13, premier contrat pour
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les espaces verts, les terrains
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sportifs pour les années 2023,
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2024 à Mario et Fils pour un
[1:29:36]
montant approximatif d'1810892
[1:29:38]
53, taxes incluses avec les
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années 2025 et 2026, en option.
[1:29:44]
Chaque année est d'une valeur de
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452723 et 13 et les années
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subséquentes à 2023 seront
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ajustées avec IPC.
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30.14 -- award -- total amount
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of $ 73,457.53, taxes included.
[1:30:05]
30.15 Award a contract for --
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units, which it's useful life.
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>> Do I have a mover?
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>> Eric Stork, district seven.
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>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
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district three.
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>> All in favour?
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On travaille un contrat pour les
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travaux de dommages, entretient
[1:30:41]
des sentiers hivernaux
[1:30:44]
ascendants au montant total de
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75094 taxes incluses, ce contrat
[1:30:48]
prévoit des travaux de sentiers
[1:30:50]
de ski de fond et de randonnée
[1:30:51]
pédestre sur le terrain de golf
[1:30:52]
de déco du Field ainsi que sur
[1:30:54]
les sentiers de randonnée
[1:30:57]
pédestre dans neuf parcs de la
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ville. 30.16 Award a contract
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for professional services for a
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traffic study in the
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Pointe-Claire Village sector, to
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CONSULTANTS AECOM INC., For a
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total amount of $ 58,251.20,
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taxes included. -- undertaking
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major infrastructure work in the
[1:31:16]
Pointe-Claire village area in
[1:31:17]
order to verify the impact of
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certain -- traffic study of the
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area must be conducted.
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30,17, octroyer un contrat pour
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des travaux de rénovation à la
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cantine de l'aréna pas Bernier à
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métier plus constructions pour
[1:31:32]
un montant de 66049 et 69
[1:31:36]
coups... sous. Un nouveau bail a
[1:31:37]
été conclu pour la location de
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cet espace et suite à
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l'inspection des lieux, il a
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réitéré que des travaux de mise
[1:31:42]
en normes sont requis en plus de
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certains travaux de la station
[1:31:45]
pour les opérations du nouveau
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locataire. 30.18 Award a
[1:31:50]
contract in order to reduce our
[1:31:51]
dependence on recruitment
[1:31:52]
agencies and increase our
[1:31:53]
employer branding/exposure, for
[1:31:56]
three years, to LINKEDIN, for a
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total amount of $ 132,254.25,
[1:32:02]
taxes included. The partnership
[1:32:08]
with LinkedIn will, among other
[1:32:10]
things, a track to network with
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active and passive -- target
[1:32:14]
candidates, search -- using
[1:32:16]
keywords, posting job on the
[1:32:18]
City, LinkedIn career page,
[1:32:21]
increasing visibility, and
[1:32:22]
showing a major reduction in
[1:32:24]
posting time, providing
[1:32:25]
information on the job market by
[1:32:27]
offering -- statistics.
[1:32:36]
.,...
[1:32:43]
(---)
[1:32:47]
est en force depuis le 5 mai
[1:32:50]
2020, se terminera vers le 20
[1:32:53]
avril 2024. Cette entente à deux
[1:32:55]
âges exclusifs d'arrosage des
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villes est constituée... nous
[1:32:59]
regrettons, profitons de
[1:33:01]
meilleurs prix en raison d'un
[1:33:02]
volume d'achat et nous serons
[1:33:04]
les
[1:33:05]
(---)
[1:33:06]
pour ces produits. 30.20 Approve
[1:33:09]
a change order to the contract
[1:33:11]
entered into with FORACTION INC.
[1:33:12]
, For the structural
[1:33:14]
rehabilitation of the water main
[1:33:15]
at Donegani Avenue between
[1:33:16]
Chester Avenue and Des Sources
[1:33:18]
Boulevard, for a total amount of
[1:33:19]
$ 3,579.95, taxes included.
[1:33:27]
This change includes the cost
[1:33:29]
material for replacement of 26
[1:33:31]
inch valves which was not
[1:33:35]
included in the contract.
[1:33:38]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:33:39]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:33:41]
>> -- district two.
[1:33:43]
>> All in favour?
[1:33:45]
30. 21 à 30. 25, contrat
[1:33:48]
intervenu aux constructions
[1:33:49]
Camara pour la construction des
[1:33:51]
accommodements de services pour
[1:33:52]
le bâtiment sanitaire des parcs
[1:33:53]
injuste a électronique botte
[1:33:55]
four
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(---)
[1:33:57]
pour un total de 1441 et 46,
[1:33:59]
taxes incluses. Le béton est
[1:34:00]
exigé par le département de
[1:34:01]
l'eau potable de Montréal pour
[1:34:03]
remblayée autour du raccordement
[1:34:04]
de la conduite d'eau potable
[1:34:06]
principale sur l'avenue del Mar
[1:34:07]
pour le futur bâtiment sanitaire
[1:34:08]
au parc juste à.
[1:34:16]
-- for the construction of slab
[1:34:20]
and pathway for -- table at
[1:34:22]
Northview and and Seigniory
[1:34:23]
parks, for a total amount of $
[1:34:24]
316.18, taxes included. This
[1:34:29]
contract and in this regard --
[1:34:33]
fill in the -- and the existing
[1:34:34]
pathway that connects to the new
[1:34:37]
pingpong table at Northview Park
[1:34:39]
notes to facilitate
[1:34:40]
accessibility.
[1:34:42]
30. 23, appuyer les motivations
[1:34:44]
de contrats acquis avec les
[1:34:46]
entreprises PNB pour 1 heure de
[1:34:47]
jeu accessible pour un parc
[1:34:49]
valoir pour un total de 12735 et
[1:34:51]
72 taxes incluses. En raison de
[1:34:53]
la suspension du chantier en
[1:34:55]
2022, les frais supplémentaires
[1:34:56]
ont été engagés tels que la
[1:34:58]
remobilisation de
[1:34:59]
l'entrepreneur, la
[1:35:00]
main-d'oeuvre, l'équipe avant de
[1:35:01]
la machinerie, le remplacement
[1:35:02]
des matériaux admis en raison
[1:35:03]
des intempéries, l'autorisation
[1:35:05]
d'un contrat a été émis pour les
[1:35:06]
travaux. Ils ont remis le 6
[1:35:07]
septembre 2022. 30.24 Approve a
[1:35:11]
change order to the contract
[1:35:13]
entered into with ALI EXCAVATION
[1:35:15]
INC., For the rehabilitation of
[1:35:17]
paving and curbs on Wilton
[1:35:20]
Avenue, for a total amount of $
[1:35:21]
15,084.72, taxes included.
[1:35:31]
-- on the site exceeds the
[1:35:34]
estimate -- lower than the
[1:35:37]
estimated quantity, that shown
[1:35:40]
amount of -- but we say 15,700
[1:35:44]
on --
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30. 25, appuient une
[1:35:47]
modification avec Stinson est
[1:35:49]
pour la livraison de radars fixe
[1:35:52]
pour un montant total de 4170 et
[1:35:54]
170, taxes incluses. La peine
[1:35:58]
officielle était pour l'achat de
[1:35:59]
2022 et deux Madeleine trois,
[1:36:01]
2024. C'est modifié dans le but
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(---)
[1:36:04]
et ainsi procéder à une seule
[1:36:06]
raison pour huit rapports en
[1:36:07]
même temps.
[1:36:09]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:36:13]
>> Tara Stainforth
[1:36:21]
district four. -- all in favour?
[1:36:28]
-- janitorial services for
[1:36:31]
exterior toilet and in various
[1:36:32]
location of the city, for a
[1:36:34]
total amount of $ 10, 000, taxes
[1:36:35]
included.
[1:36:44]
-- for the emptying service
[1:36:46]
water supplies and general
[1:36:48]
service three times a week.
[1:36:51]
30 27, autoriser une dépense
[1:36:54]
maximale d'1531000, 159 et 56
[1:36:56]
dans le cadre de l'appel
[1:36:58]
d'offres regroupés du Centre
[1:36:59]
d'acquisitions gouvernementales
[1:37:00]
pour l'achat de véhicules légers
[1:37:01]
pour l'année 2000 22023 et c'est
[1:37:03]
un montant résiduel de l'année
[1:37:05]
2022. En raison des diverses
[1:37:07]
difficultés d'approvisionnement,
[1:37:08]
la ville n'a pas été en mesure
[1:37:09]
d'acquérir des véhicules en
[1:37:10]
2022. Par conséquent, les fonds
[1:37:12]
utilisés doivent être
[1:37:13]
transférées à l'appel d'offres
[1:37:14]
groupés de 2023 avant que tous
[1:37:16]
les véhicules puissent être
[1:37:17]
acquis dans les plus brefs
[1:37:19]
délais possibles. De plus, en
[1:37:20]
raison des difficultés
[1:37:21]
d'approvisionnement, les
[1:37:22]
commandes de véhicules doivent
[1:37:23]
être effectués dans des délais
[1:37:24]
plus courts possibles après
[1:37:26]
l'émission de l'appel d'offres
[1:37:27]
groupés préparée par la CGI.
[1:37:29]
L'approbation d'une enveloppe
[1:37:30]
budgétaire maximale cinq j'ai
[1:37:32]
l'approbation du qu'on fait en
[1:37:33]
ce qui concerne les coûts
[1:37:35]
spécifique de véhicule permettra
[1:37:36]
à la Ville de gagner un temps
[1:37:38]
précieux, ce qui donnera
[1:37:40]
davantage de temps pour acquérir
[1:37:41]
les véhicules.
[1:37:44]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:37:47]
>> -- district two.
[1:37:52]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:37:53]
district three.
[1:37:54]
>> All in favour?
[1:37:56]
50 0 un, déposer la liste des
[1:37:57]
changements au personnel par
[1:37:59]
décision délégués pour le mois
[1:38:00]
de décembre 2022 tel que préparé
[1:38:02]
par monsieur Vincent pro,
[1:38:03]
directeur des ressources
[1:38:04]
humaines. Fyfe qui au tout 50.02
[1:38:05]
Approve the list of
[1:38:06]
non-delegated staff changes as
[1:38:07]
of December 6, 2022.
[1:38:10]
>> Do I have a mover?
[1:38:12]
>> Moved by Bruno Tremblay,
[1:38:16]
district six.
[1:38:17]
>> And a seconder?
[1:38:18]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:38:22]
district three.
[1:38:23]
>> All in favour?
[1:38:25]
>> Okay.
[1:38:31]
>> Closure?
[1:38:32]
>> There is no -- varia. Do I
[1:38:39]
have a mover for?
[1:38:40]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen --
[1:38:41]
>> Do I have a seconder? Eric
[1:38:43]
Stork merci tout le monde..
[1:38:44]
>> Thanks, folks.