[0:46] - Mesdames et Messieurs,

[0:48] bienvenue à Ladies and cette

[0:50] séance ordinaire du mardi 6

[0:52] juin. Gentlemen, good evening,

[0:54] and welcome to -- Tuesday, June

[0:58] 6th.

[1:00] C'est avec tristesse que nous

[1:01] avons appris le décès de Madame

[1:03] Amalia Guindi, en date du 8 mai

[1:06] dernier. Elle était à l'emploi

[1:07] de la ville pendant 25 années,

[1:11] au moment de sa retraite en

[1:12] juillet 2018, elle était commis

[1:16] à la bibliothèque. Nous offrons

[1:18] nos plus sincères condoléances à

[1:19] sa famille et ses amis.

[1:25] It is with sadness that we learn

[1:28] of the death of Madame Amelia --

[1:37] on May 8th -- she was a library

[1:39] clerk. We offer our most sincere

[1:41] condolences to her -- and our --

[1:51] -- this community for many many

[1:54] decades --

[2:00] La Médaille du

[2:02] Lieutenant-gouverneur a pour

[2:03] objet la reconnaissance de

[2:04] l'engagement bénévole, de la

[2:07] détermination, et du dépassement

[2:08] de soi de Québécois et de

[2:12] Québécoises, qui exercent ou qui

[2:16] ont exercé une influence

[2:17] positive

[2:22] au sein de leur communauté, ou

[2:23] de la nation québécoise. Quatre

[2:24] personnes qui habitent ou

[2:25] travaillent à Pointe-Claire, ont

[2:26] reçu une médaille dans le cadre

[2:27] d'une cérémonie qui s'est

[2:29] déroulée le 04 juin dernier.

[2:36] Dans la catégorie Médaille du

[2:37] Lieutenant-gouverneur pour la

[2:38] jeunesse, ce sont les directions

[2:39] des établissements

[2:40] d'enseignements qui soumettent

[2:41] les candidatures. Les trois

[2:44] récipiendaires sont:

[2:50] Madame Regina Lizarraga

[2:51] Santamaria, École secondaire

[2:52] John Rennie,

[2:58] M. Gaurav Ropal, école

[2:59] secondaire Felix-Leclerc,

[3:06] Madame Trina Ushvaththa

[3:07] Liyanage, École secondaire St.

[3:08] Thomas. La Médaille du

[3:09] Lieutenant-gouverneur pour les

[3:14] ainés. Dans cette catégorie,

[3:15] c'est monsieur André Giroux,

[3:19] qui a été honoré pour son

[3:20] engagement bénévole soutenu au

[3:22] niveau social ou communautaire,

[3:27] qui s'est poursuivi au-delà de

[3:28] l'âge de 64 ans. Il a contribué

[3:32] au mieux-être de son milieu et à

[3:34] l'atteinte de la mission d'un

[3:37] organisme. Félicitations à tous

[3:38] les récipiendaires. The purpose

[3:44] of the lieutenant governor's

[3:46] metal is to recognize the

[3:48] involvement, determination and

[3:49] constant striving of Quebecers

[3:51] both had a positive influence in

[3:53] their community. For people who

[3:57] live or work in Pointe-Claire

[4:00] received medals during a

[4:01] ceremony held on June 4th. In

[4:03] the category of lieutenant

[4:05] governors youth metal, it is the

[4:06] school management that submit

[4:09] the applications. The three

[4:13] recipients are Ms. Regina --

[4:17] John Ronnie high School, Mr. --

[4:24] Gorav school -- and Ms. Trina --

[4:29] in the category of lieutenant

[4:32] governor seniors medal, the

[4:34] recipient is Andre Giroux --

[4:36] which continued beyond the age

[4:38] of 64 and contributed to the

[4:40] well-being of -- congratulations

[4:46] to all the recipients.

[4:50] Afin de soutenir les personnes

[4:51] qui souhaitent prendre un virage

[4:53] éco-responsable, et réduire leur

[4:54] consommation d'eau, la Ville de

[4:57] Pointe-Claire est fière de

[4:58] distribuer des trousses

[5:02] d'économie d'eau, jusqu'à

[5:03] épuisement des stocks.

[5:07] Ces kits sont conçus pour

[5:08] réduire jusqu'à 40% la

[5:09] consommation d'eau sans

[5:10] compromettre la pression.

[5:15] Depuis le jeudi 1er juin 2023,

[5:16] les résidentes et résidents

[5:20] peuvent remplir un formulaire

[5:21] d'inscription en ligne,

[5:29] leur permettant de réserver et

[5:30] choisir entre deux ensembles

[5:31] écoresponsables d'économie

[5:32] d'eau, visitez la page sur la

[5:36] consommation d'eau du site Web

[5:37] de la Ville pour réserver votre

[5:43] trousse. In an effort to lower

[5:44] the communities water

[5:45] consumption, the City of

[5:47] Pointe-Claire is proud to

[5:48] distribute water saving kids to

[5:51] residents while supplies last.

[5:53] These water saving kits are

[5:55] designed to waste up to 40% less

[5:57] water without compromising on

[5:59] water pressure. Since Thursday,

[6:01] June 1st, 2023, residents are

[6:03] able to fill out an online

[6:05] registration form, allowing them

[6:07] to choose between two

[6:09] environmentally friendly water

[6:11] kits. Visit the City's website,

[6:13] the water consumption page, to

[6:17] reserve your kit. Active --

[6:20] Activités participative

[6:22] d'urbanisme. À partir de demain

[6:25] midi, nous invitons les

[6:26] citoyennes et les citoyens à

[6:28] s'inscrire, à la troisième

[6:29] activité participative pour la

[6:31] révision du plan d'urbanisme.

[6:34] Cette fois sur le thème du

[6:35] transport et la mobilité.

[6:41] L'activité se tiendra le 21 juin

[6:42] prochain au chalet

[6:43] Baie-de-Valois à 19h, les places

[6:44] sont limitées. merci de réserver

[6:45] votre place. Starting at noon

[6:52] tomorrow, we are inviting sized

[6:54] citizens to register for the

[6:56] Third participatory workshop for

[6:57] the revision of the urban plan.

[6:59] This time, the theme is

[7:01] transportation and mobility. The

[7:03] activity will take place on June

[7:05] 21st at the bag voila chalet --

[7:10] please reserve your place.

[7:19] Les feux de forêt sont

[7:20] malheureusement un sujet

[7:21] d'actualité présentement. Au

[7:22] Canada, depuis 1990, les feux de

[7:23] végétation ont brûlé en moyenne

[7:25] 2,5 millions d'hectares par

[7:26] année.

[7:33] Ces feux se produisent dans les

[7:34] forêts, les zones arbustives et

[7:35] les prairies.

[7:39] Certains d'entre eux ne sont pas

[7:40] maîtrisés,

[7:44] et ont été allumés par la foudre

[7:45] ou des humains négligents.

[7:50] Dans le cas de la responsabilité

[7:51] humaine,

[7:55] la cause peut être

[7:56] intentionnelle, involontaire ou

[7:57] liée aux infrastructures.

[8:02] Les statistiques disent que 90%

[8:03] des départs de feux de forêt ont

[8:06] pour origine les activités

[8:10] humaines. Les facteurs humains

[8:11] jouent un rôle important dans

[8:12] les zones boisées aménagées. Par

[8:16] exemple, le risque de feu de

[8:17] végétation augmente lorsque les

[8:19] opérations d'exploitation

[8:24] forestière sont menées par temps

[8:25] sec, et lorsque les chemins

[8:28] forestiers donnent accès aux

[8:29] amateurs de plein air aux zones

[8:30] boisées.

[8:33] Le fait qu'une collectivité

[8:34] connaisse ces facteurs augmente

[8:38] sa capacité à réduire le risque

[8:39] de feu de végétation

[8:47] à proximité, à se préparer à de

[8:48] tels feux et à s'en

[8:49] rétablir.J'aimerais terminer ce

[8:50] préambule

[8:52] en rendant hommage à tous ces

[8:53] hommes et ces femmes qui sont

[8:57] déployés à plusieurs endroits au

[9:01] Québec pour combattre les

[9:02] nombreux feux de forêt qui nous

[9:03] affligent.

[9:07] Merci d'être vigilants lors de

[9:08] vos déplacements estivaux dans

[9:09] les zones à risques. Forest

[9:15] fires are unfortunately a hot

[9:16] topic right now -- no pun

[9:18] intended -- in Canada, since

[9:20] 1990, wildfires have burned an

[9:22] average of 2.5 million hectares

[9:25] per year. These fires occur in

[9:27] forests, shrub lands and

[9:28] grasslands. Some are

[9:30] uncontrolled and are started by

[9:31] lightning or careless humans. In

[9:33] the case of human

[9:35] responsibility, the cause can be

[9:37] intentional, unintentional, or

[9:40] infrastructure related.

[9:42] Statistics show that 90% of

[9:44] forest fires are caused by human

[9:45] activity. Human factors play an

[9:48] important role in managed

[9:51] woodlands. For example, the risk

[9:53] of wildfire increases when

[9:55] logging operations are conducted

[9:56] in dry weather, and when forced

[9:59] roads provide access to -- for

[10:02] outdoor enthusiasts. The

[10:05] communities awareness of these

[10:06] factors -- in the vicinity and

[10:09] to prepare for and recover from

[10:11] such fires. I would like to end

[10:13] this preamble by paying tribute

[10:14] to all the men and women who are

[10:16] deployed in many parts of to

[10:19] Québec fight that many forest

[10:20] fires that afflict us. Thank you

[10:21] for being vigilant when

[10:23] Travelling in high-risk areas

[10:25] this summer.

[10:27] Et maintenant, Madame Thibault

[10:28] nous pouvons débuter notre

[10:29] séance de ce soir.

[10:38] -

[10:39] >> Adoption of the agenda --

[10:40] Adoption de l'ordre du jour avec

[10:41] deux changements, à 6,1, le

[10:42] montrant devrait être 100

[10:43] dollars. Et à 6,3, le montant

[10:48] devrait être 375 dollars. At 6.1

[10:52] the amount should be $100. At

[10:55] 6.3 the amount should be $375.

[10:59] >> Okay.

[11:01] >> 3.1?

[11:02] >> -- mover -- second -- do I

[11:07] have a mover?

[11:10] >> I'm sorry -- I'm sorry, my

[11:13] mistake.

[11:14] >> 3.1 -- traffic committee

[11:16] meetings of March 21st and May

[11:19] 9th of 2023?

[11:25] 3.2 Approuver les procès-verbaux

[11:26] de la séance ordinaire du 2 mai

[11:27] 2023 et de la séance

[11:28] extraordinaire du 9 mai 2023.

[11:32] >> For a 1.1 --

[11:40] >> Seconder?

[11:41] >> -- district too district 2.

[11:48] Période de questions. Question

[11:50] period --

[11:52] Pour la période de questions ce

[11:53] soir, la période de questions,

[11:55] vous avez été accueilli à

[11:57] l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la

[11:59] période de questions.

[12:00] L'intention de cette démarche

[12:02] est d'abord de permettre aux

[12:03] personnes de demeurer assise

[12:06] jusqu'à l'appel de leurs noms.

[12:08] Et d'accorder la priorité aux

[12:10] résidents et résidentes de

[12:12] Pointe-Claire. Un, nous

[12:15] garderons 90 minutes pour la

[12:16] période de questions. Deux, une

[12:19] personne à la fois au micro.

[12:22] Nous vous remercions d'attendre

[12:24] qu'un citoyen est terminé pour

[12:26] poser sa question et que vous

[12:29] soyez appelé de avant de vous

[12:30] lever pour venir poser votre

[12:31] question. Trois, les

[12:34] non-résidents présents pourront

[12:35] poser leurs questions par la

[12:38] suite, si le temps n'est pas

[12:39] écouler. For question period --

[12:45] tonight during question period,

[12:46] we were greeted at the entrance

[12:49] -- allow people to remain seated

[12:51] until their name is called and

[12:52] to give priority to

[12:55] Pointe-Claire residents. One, we

[12:56] shall stick to 90 minute time

[12:58] limit for question period.

[13:01] Number two, one person at a time

[13:03] for the -- to finish asking the

[13:05] question and to be called before

[13:06] you get up to ask viewers.

[13:09] Number three, non president will

[13:11] be able to ask questions

[13:14] afterwards if there still is

[13:15] time.

[13:16] Question period --

[13:20] >> On peut wait, wait --

[13:21] Commencer.

[13:22] - Monsieur...

[13:23] -, S'il vous plaît, monsieur

[13:24] Alain Dubuc.

[13:31] - Bonsoir, Monsieur le Maire, et

[13:32] à tous vous autres, et les

[13:33] membres du comité municipal de

[13:34] la ville. J'ai une question pour

[13:36] vous. C'est ça, je m'appelle

[13:39] Alain Dubuc, je suis résidente

[13:42] au 256, avenue bord du lac, à

[13:44] Pointe-Claire. Les jours. Et

[13:47] j'ai une question. Alors

[13:50] j'aimerais savoir si le conseil

[13:53] municipal considère qu'un très

[13:56] fort bruit causé par un voisin

[13:58] et légalement acceptable quand

[14:01] il est produit pendant quelques

[14:03] heures par jour, quatre jours

[14:06] sur sept, à toutes les semaines,

[14:09] et pendant tout l'été? Et

[14:12] j'aimerais aussi savoir quelle

[14:14] personne est légalement habilité

[14:16] à mesurer la puissance d'un

[14:17] bruit? Et la distance à laquelle

[14:23] on entend ce bruit en milieu

[14:24] urbain. Je dois vous dire que

[14:26] j'ai aussi, évidemment, une

[14:27] copie du règlement municipal qui

[14:29] a été approuvé par le maire

[14:33] Séguin concernant la paix

[14:35] publique et tout ça. J'ai tout

[14:37] lu ça. Alors voilà. J'aimerais

[14:39] ça avoir une réponse à ma

[14:40] question, s'il vous plaît.

[14:43] - C'est une bonne question,

[14:44] monsieur Dubuc. Je ne sais pas

[14:48] les règles officiellement, mais

[14:50] vous parlez au sujet de...

[14:54] - De bruit.

[14:55] - De bruit, O.K.. Le bruit

[14:57] musical, de la musique, ou juste

[14:58] du bruit?

[14:59] - On peut appeler ça comme vous

[15:00] voulez.

[15:01] - O.K., O.K.. Corinne a, est-ce

[15:05] que vous connaissez les règles?

[15:06] - Au niveau du bruit, dans le

[15:08] fond, c'est notre élément de

[15:09] nuisance qui est imputable. Et

[15:11] pour nous, à la Ville, c'est le

[15:13] département de la sécurité

[15:14] publique qui applique ce

[15:15] règlement-là.

[15:16] - D'accord.

[15:17] - O.K.. Le règlement, vous

[15:19] parlez de la Sécurité publique.

[15:22] C'est-à-dire? Je veux dire...

[15:24] moi, j'ai appelé régulièrement

[15:26] la Sécurité publique. J'ai aussi

[15:28] parlé à mon conseiller

[15:31] municipal, monsieur Claude

[15:33] Cousineau, concernant mon

[15:34] problème. Et puis je veux dire,

[15:37] je suis ici ce soir pour vous

[15:40] dire que, bien là, je ne sais

[15:41] plus à qui parler, là. Parce

[15:43] qu'il n'y a personne, il ne se

[15:45] passe rien. Je n'ai pas eu de

[15:47] nouvelles. Je n'ai pas de

[15:48] nouvelles.

[15:55] - C'est sûr qu'aujourd'hui, je

[15:56] ne peux pas répondre à votre

[15:57] problématique en tant que tel

[15:58] parce que je ne la connais pas,

[15:59] vous comprenez? Mais je ne sais

[16:01] pas à qui vous avez parlé au

[16:03] niveau de la sécurité publique,

[16:04] mais si vous voulez, après la

[16:05] séance, peut-être communiqué

[16:07] directement avec le directeur

[16:08] qui est monsieur Tanguay ou avec

[16:09] moi-même, on peut regarder plus

[16:11] en détail votre dossier, si vous

[16:13] voulez.

[16:14] - O.K.. Alors c'est ça votre

[16:16] réponse?

[16:17] - Désolé, Alain. C'est la

[16:19] première fois que j'ai entendu

[16:20] ça.

[16:21] - O.K..

[16:22] - Ce n'est pas la première fois

[16:23] que monsieur Cousineau entend

[16:24] ça, par exemple.

[16:28] (inaudible)

[16:44] - O.K., j'ai croisé monsieur le

[16:45] maire hier, justement, quelques

[16:46] secondes. Il partait pour

[16:48] quelque chose d'important,

[16:50] j'imagine... et puis il m'a

[16:53] mentionné deux sujets. Et puis

[16:57] les plaintes contre

[17:02] (---)

[17:03] 77 vont être considérés par le

[17:05] conseil. Présentement, la loi

[17:07] est respectée. J'ai fait suivre

[17:13] un et merde à monsieur Tanguay.

[17:16] Je crois, un courriel, puis

[17:17] tout. Je crois que j'ai mis

[17:19] madame Gagnon en copie. Il m'a

[17:24] répondu: ce n'est pas clair, ma

[17:26] mémoire. S'il est allé vous voir

[17:29] pour vous expliquer le

[17:31] règlement. La procédure.

[17:34] - Le règlement, je le connais

[17:35] bien. La question que je vous

[17:36] pose, c'est, et puis j'aimerais

[17:37] ça que vous me répondiez: est-ce

[17:39] que vous trouvez ça correct, ce

[17:41] qui est en train de se passer

[17:42] dans le village en ce moment?

[17:45] Dites-moi ça, dites-moi oui,

[17:46] c'est beau. Vous dites non, ce

[17:48] n'est pas correct. City

[17:53] - Pour moi, c'est la première

[17:55] fois que j'ai entendu une

[17:56] plainte, c'était hier. Entendre

[18:00] la madame n'était pas

[18:01] complètement contre ce qui se

[18:02] passait, si on parle de

[18:03] l'exemple dans le village. Je

[18:05] pense que je comprends la

[18:06] question. Mais il n'était pas

[18:07] vraiment contre. Elle voulait

[18:10] régler la situation d'une

[18:14] façon...

[18:15] - Civilisée.

[18:16] - Gentille, civilisés pour tout

[18:17] le monde. Mais même pour la

[18:18] business aussi. Mais elle

[18:19] n'était pas complètement contre

[18:20] ce qui se passait. Je ne sais

[18:22] pas si c'est le cas pour vous

[18:25] aussi. Vous êtes le deuxième.

[18:28] Alors pour moi, ce n'est pas

[18:30] encore une crise. Mais on va

[18:31] voir ce qui se passe. Et...

[18:34] - Mais comme dit monsieur

[18:35] Cousineau, ça veut dire qu'à

[18:36] votre avis, selon ce qu'il vient

[18:37] de dire, le règlement est

[18:39] respecté. Et tout est correct,

[18:40] c'est ça? Oui, oui?

[18:45] - On peut vérifier ça.

[18:46] - O.K..

[18:47] - Le règlement est observé.

[18:48] - C'est beau...

[18:52] - Mais on peut, et ça, ça a

[18:53] toujours fait partie de la

[18:55] campagne, si on veut... moi, je

[18:59] veux un village vivant. Ça peut

[19:01] s'arranger. Il y a eu d'autres

[19:03] problèmes de musique forte. Et

[19:07] j'ai entendu des plaintes à

[19:09] plusieurs reprises au début. Et

[19:12] puis ça semble s'être réglé à

[19:14] l'amiable. Je ne vois pas

[19:16] pourquoi est-ce qu'on ne

[19:17] pourrait pas s'asseoir avec

[19:20] monsieur Epstein, qui est le

[19:22] propriétaire du studio. Et puis

[19:25] en venir à un arrangement.

[19:29] - Merci, merci beaucoup.

[19:30] - Ça fait plaisir.

[19:31] - Bonsoir.

[19:32] - Merci.

[19:43] -- Macosse -- if I pronounce

[19:47] that right, sir?

[19:49] >> -- frequent flyer here. Hi,

[19:55] guys. My name is Sarah Macosse.

[19:58] I live in battle guard avenue in

[20:00] front of Northview Park. I'm

[20:02] here to discuss that subject

[20:05] again. Glenn is holding up a

[20:09] picture of the temporary fence

[20:11] that has been -- the

[20:12] construction. I want to make

[20:13] sure everyone has seen it. It's

[20:15] a great example from Eric's

[20:17] happy place that we spoke about

[20:19] last time of what the park will

[20:21] look like from his view. You can

[20:23] see there's a family sitting on

[20:24] the bench and they are looking

[20:25] at the temporary fence, which is

[20:27] six feet high. The fence will be

[20:31] eight feet, as proposed. Mr.,

[20:35] Mayor, in your interview with

[20:36] C.J. D CJD -- that's not a great

[20:43] scenario. So, here we are again.

[20:47] And we will continue to come

[20:49] until this makes sense to us. We

[20:51] have come with facts, some of

[20:53] which, you acknowledged in your

[20:56] interview or your letter.

[20:59] Baseball Québec and baseball

[21:00] Montréal, guided by the MEES,

[21:04] which is the reference for Mr.

[21:11] Gilois -- majority of baseball

[21:14] fields on the island are not

[21:16] fenced. The mayor has added to

[21:18] this, specifically, that I have

[21:20] not heard a lot from the

[21:21] baseball lobby. They have not

[21:23] been telling us why they needed

[21:26] strenuously either. Can I ask

[21:28] anyone here from north you to

[21:29] raise their hand, please? Thank

[21:31] you. And I believe they're some

[21:34] additional people downstairs.

[21:36] More residents have signed the

[21:38] petition that we are

[21:39] circulating. We are at 300, as

[21:42] of the -- file to give to the

[21:46] 123 we submitted last time. The

[21:49] registration for baseball West

[21:51] Island is 230 players. Now, we

[21:54] are exceeding the number of

[21:57] players who play baseball, per

[22:01] Jennifer award -- 6.5 on the

[22:05] agenda is about revising the

[22:09] contract. There was some talk

[22:10] about the contract being-limited

[22:12] in terms of how much we can

[22:14] revise, per section 2.1.01 the

[22:23] contract is amenable up to --

[22:25] the outfield fence and mesh

[22:27] total under $115,000, which is

[22:31] only 12% of the contract. So, it

[22:33] is within the confines of your

[22:35] ability within the council to

[22:36] make the decision to make this

[22:39] revision. On the morning of

[22:41] Saturday the 27th, a Public

[22:44] Works day, we received an email

[22:45] from the mayor's office

[22:48] mentioning that the reasoning

[22:49] for the fence included injuries

[22:53] related to the outfield and

[22:54] walking trail. We have actually

[22:57] requested records of these

[22:58] injuries multiple times and have

[22:59] not had any responses. And we

[23:01] are still very interested. We

[23:04] obviously don't want anyone to

[23:05] be hurt. And, lost ball's -- the

[23:12] mayor's letter mentioned that

[23:13] the City would put up the fence

[23:15] and would remain amenable to

[23:17] suggest that we take the fence

[23:18] down if, after a year, it has

[23:20] proven to be too disruptive. As

[23:22] I am sure you can imagine, to

[23:24] receive this message was

[23:25] upsetting. To hear that offence

[23:27] is going up because of lost

[23:29] baseballs is beyond

[23:30] disappointing. We know there are

[23:32] other reasons. But that was an

[23:34] interesting point to include.

[23:36] But then to learn that the City

[23:38] would consider spending almost

[23:41] $100,000 to erect offence, only

[23:43] to consider taking it down after

[23:45] a year, as taxpayers I think I

[23:47] can speak for a large group of

[23:49] us -- we demand better. We

[23:50] should be making decisions based

[23:53] on empirical data and not on

[23:55] what it's and nice two haves --

[23:59] and can be avoided with a

[24:01] painted line and field

[24:02] resurfacing, which has already

[24:04] happened in this part of the

[24:06] renovations. It does not feel

[24:07] like the best way to invest

[24:09] public funds and-limited

[24:11] Resources. So, what would we

[24:13] would propose, instead of

[24:15] putting the plan for the fence,

[24:18] we would say, put it on hold

[24:19] until it has been determined

[24:22] that defenses truly necessary by

[24:23] determining that there are in

[24:25] fact injuries, that there are in

[24:26] fact issues that are brought up

[24:28] without having this fence.

[24:30] Because it is not required by

[24:32] any baseball association, and

[24:33] the park has existed for decades

[24:36] with very few instances. So, why

[24:40] not take the time to make the

[24:41] right decision, instead of what

[24:42] seems like rushing into what has

[24:44] become an increasingly unpopular

[24:46] decision? So, my question

[24:49] tonight, after all that -- sorry

[24:52] -- considering that you already

[24:53] have the contract on the agenda

[24:54] to discuss, will you listen to

[24:56] an increasing number of citizens

[24:59] and put the plan for the

[25:00] outfield fence on pause until

[25:02] you can verify it is truly

[25:04] necessary to spend almost

[25:07] $100,000 of taxpayer funds?

[25:11] >> Okay. To be specific to a few

[25:14] things, the number of players

[25:17] example is a little off because

[25:18] there are players from other

[25:20] parts of the city that will be

[25:22] playing in that field. So, it's

[25:24] for the greater good of baseball

[25:25] in general. So, it's not just

[25:29] the players, the number that you

[25:31] have claimed. My feeling on this

[25:34] has been, and will always be,

[25:37] that you can always change

[25:38] things. That is not shared and I

[25:40] understand the argument you said

[25:42] about expenditure. And there are

[25:43] certainly people on Council who

[25:44] would agree with you. I am

[25:46] flying solo on that one. I spoke

[25:49] to another mayor. I was in

[25:51] Toronto when I did that

[25:52] interview. And I spoke to

[25:53] another mayor who had gone

[25:54] through the exact same

[25:55] circumstance. And that's, in

[25:57] fact, what he did. And he

[25:59] offered to deal -- I can give

[26:01] you examples of the city that I

[26:03] would like to see changed, and I

[26:05] would still fight to have them

[26:06] changed. The change of the lower

[26:10] car chain, where we lost -- for

[26:13] commercial purposes was, I

[26:14] think, a result that was not

[26:15] very good. I will continue to

[26:18] lobby against that, with what we

[26:20] did with a lower car chain

[26:22] changing back to what it was

[26:24] originally, and that's a loss

[26:26] and an incredible expenditure --

[26:28] are you going to live in

[26:29] perpetuity with what you think

[26:33] is a mistake? I've never been a

[26:35] big fan of the St. Louis bike

[26:38] path -- these things go into

[26:40] perpetuity. If they go into

[26:42] perpetuity badly, it might be

[26:44] worth the loss of revenue. We

[26:46] can still always change things

[26:48] if they don't work for the

[26:49] community. So, that's my

[26:50] argument there. It's not shared.

[26:51] And I agree with your point

[26:53] about spending money and maybe

[26:54] not spending money and then

[26:56] reversing the decision is maybe

[26:57] not the best way to go. However,

[26:59] it's better than going into

[27:01] perpetuity with a bad decision

[27:04] or one that is unacceptable to

[27:07] the west of the population.

[27:09] >> Agreed.

[27:10] >> -- as for the ultimate

[27:11] decision on it, well, it was

[27:13] pretty much unanimously voted on

[27:15] by Council. So, I can't speak to

[27:17] that other than to say, baseball

[27:22] Québec suggested that. Our

[27:25] experts advised it and we are

[27:28] one of three out of 34 that

[27:30] don't have a fence. 31 other

[27:33] cities -- I think it's 31 --

[27:37] >> --

[27:38] >> Being Pointe-Claire, we like

[27:39] to do things up to code, and

[27:41] that was the decision on

[27:42] Council's part at the outset,

[27:43] and that was the rationale for

[27:45] doing what we thought was the

[27:46] right thing to do. So, it

[27:48] remains up in the air. But it

[27:50] has -- the decision has been

[27:51] made. But that does not mean, in

[27:53] my perspective, as a political

[27:56] -- as a -- political action,

[27:58] that anything can't be change. I

[28:00] think anything can be changed.

[28:01] And that's what I was

[28:02] expressing.

[28:03] >> For sure. And I've heard that

[28:06] multiple times, and I appreciate

[28:07] it, because it does, in fact,

[28:09] give us a little bit of steam in

[28:11] our engines. But what is enough?

[28:12] Now, we have 300 citizens. The

[28:15] count is still going. I had to

[28:16] leave my house and I was still

[28:18] getting sign ups. We see the

[28:20] registration for baseball, as

[28:21] I've said. The park has

[28:24] coexisted with baseball for

[28:25] decades, without incident that

[28:27] we have learned of. No one has

[28:30] given us any proof of that. So,

[28:32] our ask is to have a win win

[28:34] situation, where the citizens

[28:36] who are actively upset -- we

[28:38] have been here three months in a

[28:39] row. We are circulating

[28:41] petitions. We are very much

[28:42] trying to reason here and be

[28:44] fair. We want to come up with a

[28:45] compromise. Baseball can

[28:47] continue as is. We are just

[28:50] simply asking that we take away

[28:52] that outfield fence that so that

[28:53] we can continue to enjoy our

[28:55] green space and that our small,

[28:59] unique neighbourhood park as is.

[29:00] >> Okay. Well, the short answer

[29:04] to your question is, enough is

[29:06] enough for Council to change its

[29:08] mind. And that will be seen in

[29:10] the vote.

[29:11] >> Thank you. I appreciate your

[29:12] time, again.

[29:17] >> John kill Patrick

[29:24] Kilpatrick? I

[29:29] >> Got evening, Mr. mayor and --

[29:32] of Pointe-Claire. The questions

[29:35] about tree cutting -- I have

[29:38] lived in my house for over 35

[29:40] years. I have got an old tree.

[29:43] It has had many breaks, many

[29:46] damages to my house, cars. And

[29:51] in the last two or three months,

[29:54] with the ice storm, the heavy

[29:55] winds and even today, I have

[29:57] major cracks in my tree. I put a

[30:00] request in to the city to have

[30:03] it cut down. The inspector came,

[30:05] got out of the car, took a photo

[30:07] of the tree, sent me a refusal,

[30:10] saying the tree is in good

[30:13] shape, and then sent an email

[30:15] back to the person and I will --

[30:19] some people, showing the cracks

[30:21] in the trees tree that are

[30:24] substantial. This is he came

[30:26] back and said, here are six

[30:32] arborist's that I can go to to

[30:33] get an evaluation. Out of all

[30:36] six of them, all the arborists

[30:38] are in favour of keeping trees.

[30:40] So, I hired one. He came over

[30:43] and he looked at the tree and

[30:45] gave a finding. The finding is

[30:47] quite simple. There are cracks

[30:49] in the trees. What their

[30:52] solution is, we will save the

[30:55] tree by cabling the tree. And in

[30:58] five years, determine if the

[31:00] tree should be taken down. So,

[31:02] I'm sort of sitting here going,

[31:04] as you said, throwing money out

[31:10] is wasteful. I would have to pay

[31:17] $1,000 to cable the tree, and in

[31:19] five years, cut the tree down,

[31:20] at more expense. The cabling is

[31:23] not going to save the tree. The

[31:26] tree is coming apart. It is

[31:28] falling. It's a crack right down

[31:30] the main structure. There's

[31:33] cracks down in those. The photos

[31:36] show it. And where it comes down

[31:38] to is this -- if something

[31:41] happens, whether it is cabled up

[31:43] or not cabled up, and the tree

[31:44] does falter, there is going to

[31:46] be an accident, whether it's

[31:49] hitting my house, hitting the

[31:50] cars, and hopefully not hitting

[31:51] somebody or killing somebody. I

[31:53] am not going to take that

[31:56] responsibility. So, Mr. Mayor,

[32:00] what I'm asking you is, can you

[32:02] look into the people that

[32:08] defined that, no, I shouldn't,

[32:10] which I found out that Giselle

[32:16] has left the company or left the

[32:17] city, so I don't know where my

[32:19] finalize, to overturn it and let

[32:22] the tree come down --

[32:26] >> Okay. The question is an

[32:27] interesting one. That's for a

[32:31] variety of reasons. I mean, do

[32:34] we question the arborists? It's

[32:36] what they do. That's don't want

[32:38] to euthanize animals and

[32:39] arborists don't want to cut down

[32:41] trees if they don't have to. I

[32:43] think it comes with a job.

[32:46] >> -- does state that there are

[32:48] major cracks in it.

[32:49] >> But they say that it can be

[32:51] cabled. I've got to tell you --

[32:53] I grew up -- I lived for 30

[32:55] years in a house where the tree

[32:57] was cables, and it kept growing

[33:01] and lived a happy life. I don't

[33:02] know. I can't speak specifically

[33:05] to yours. What's in question

[33:06] here is the professional opinion

[33:07] of the people who took that, and

[33:09] they certainly know more than

[33:10] you or I do, and I've got to go

[33:13] with it, if that's what they do

[33:14] for a living and they are good

[33:15] at it. And they are specialists

[33:18] in tree care.

[33:20] >> So, then, can I turn it a

[33:22] different way?

[33:23] >> Yep.

[33:24] >> If the tree falls down and

[33:26] makes damages, my insurance is

[33:28] not going to cover it, because

[33:29] the insurance coverage says, if

[33:31] you see a falter, you have to

[33:33] resolve it. I am trying to

[33:35] resolve it.

[33:36] >> Okay.

[33:37] >> So, if there is damage, who

[33:39] is taking liability?

[33:41] >> That's a good question. Madam

[33:45] -- does the city take liability

[33:48] -- it's not to City tree. Okay.

[33:50] >> --

[33:54] >> If it's on a front lawn, and

[33:56] it falls on vehicles, are we

[33:58] responsible? Only if it's our

[34:03] tree? If it's his --

[34:06] >> There is one more factor.

[34:08] You're telling me you can't cut

[34:09] it down. It's a private tree on

[34:12] private property where the

[34:15] arborist says that there has to

[34:16] be measures to keep it --

[34:19] danger, and somebody has to pay

[34:21] for it. So, I'm asking the

[34:22] question about liability. The

[34:25] city has said has -- denied

[34:28] permission to cut the tree down,

[34:30] a private tree. So -- question

[34:33] -- in that situation, if the

[34:35] tree falls and hurts somebody,

[34:37] are we liable?

[34:38] >> That's what I was asking.

[34:45] >> It depends on where the tree

[34:47] is. If it's on your property,

[34:49] obviously, you are responsible

[34:52] for your tree. If it is on our

[34:56] property, on public property, we

[34:59] are responsible for the trees,

[35:02] unless you did something wrong

[35:04] in the maintenance, for

[35:06] instance. So --

[35:09] >> If it is on my property, it

[35:11] is my responsibility. Therefore,

[35:13] I should be able to cut the

[35:14] tree. Correct?

[35:17] >> Yeah, I hear you --

[35:21] >> --

[35:22] >> That's exactly what --

[35:24] >> You need a permit to cut the

[35:26] tree.

[35:27] >> Correct. But, as you said, if

[35:29] the trees on my property --

[35:32] >> Yes.

[35:33] >> -- the permit is for the City

[35:35] to allow me to cut a tree on my

[35:38] property? Or is it --

[35:40] >> The permit is issued by the

[35:43] City to allow you to cut the

[35:45] tree on your property, correct.

[35:48] >> So, if the City does not

[35:50] approve the cutting of the tree

[35:52] --

[35:53] >> If the City does not approve

[35:54] the cutting of the tree, who is

[35:59] responsible for any damages?

[36:01] >> No that's, not the way it

[36:03] works, sir, I'm sorry.

[36:04] >> If the trees on my property,

[36:06] and it's a danger, and the City

[36:08] does not give me the rights to

[36:10] cut the tree, who takes

[36:13] responsibility?

[36:14] >> I don't want to enter into a

[36:16] debate with you tonight. But

[36:18] this is a very interesting

[36:19] question. So, I invite you to

[36:22] call me at my office tomorrow

[36:24] and I will be pleased to

[36:26] elaborate.

[36:27] >> -- hold on, Mayor, I believe

[36:33] you've got my emails. You can

[36:34] pass it over to the lady there.

[36:38] Excuse me? Hello?

[36:39] >> Madame Thibault?

[36:41] >> -- the mayor will send you my

[36:45] emails with all -- the all the

[36:47] documents. And you can come back

[36:48] and tell me what is going on.

[36:50] >> Sure.

[36:51] >> Okay.

[36:52] >> Thank you very much.

[36:54] >> Thanks very much,

[36:58] - André Barry? Mr. Kilpatrick.

[36:59] André

[37:05] Babbis? Did I get it right?

[37:11] >> -- what is below you right

[37:14] here, the windmill. On the sign

[37:17] here, as you know, the windmill

[37:19] is our emblem, the emblem of the

[37:21] City of Pointe-Claire -- which

[37:22] we were once proud of. And over

[37:24] the 40 years, I've seen it

[37:26] slowly, slowly fall apart. The

[37:31] picture has its four original

[37:32] panels. They actually work. Now

[37:33] it has won half panel. There is

[37:36] even a yellow police tape around

[37:38] it to keep people around away

[37:41] from it because they are afraid

[37:42] snow might fall off it. In

[37:44] contrast with this, Mr. Mayor

[37:50] and Council, the City of

[37:53] Île-Perrot has -- they've made

[37:55] it a tourist attraction. They

[37:56] have guided tours. I would

[37:58] invite you to look at their

[37:59] website, which is very well

[38:01] done. They have financial

[38:02] partners. My question, Mr.

[38:06] Mayor, does the city have a plan

[38:09] to repair this windmill and get

[38:10] it back to its original state?

[38:13] We

[38:14] >> Are very close.

[38:16] >> --

[38:17] >> We are very close. We have

[38:18] been working on it for about a

[38:19] year now. We are working out the

[38:20] details on it. I might point

[38:22] out, though, also, that I think

[38:25] in all the Perreault Île-Perrot

[38:30] --

[38:33] >> No, it's owned by the

[38:36] Government of Québec --

[38:37] >> That is the difference.

[38:38] >> That is the difference.

[38:40] >> -- I asked if the city was

[38:42] planning to buy the windmill,

[38:45] and she said, no. There is no

[38:47] plan to buy it. Is that correct?

[38:50] >> Well, there have been

[38:51] attempts. There has been a hard

[38:53] time dividing the property of

[38:56] the convent and the windmill in

[38:58] a separate sales items. So, they

[39:00] have tended to go together. And

[39:02] the archdiocese has not wanted

[39:04] to sell the entire property, nor

[39:07] does the city probably want to

[39:09] purchase the whole thing. But

[39:10] have been some attempts in the

[39:11] past. I don't know them

[39:13] specifically. There have been

[39:14] attempts. So, we have arranged

[39:17] -- organize to arrange a deal

[39:19] which will circumvent that. And

[39:20] we are trying to finalize it. We

[39:22] are getting close. It is not

[39:24] there yet. But there are some

[39:25] details to be worked out.

[39:27] >> In my previous life as a

[39:29] lawyer, has you considered a new

[39:32] -- a long term lease? Such as --

[39:36] property, apparently belongs to

[39:39] the Franciscan's, believe it or

[39:40] not. They gave it for a 99

[39:45] renewable long term lease -- the

[39:47] concept could be interesting for

[39:48] the city and you don't have to

[39:50] bail out money to buy it. You

[39:52] least for a certain amount every

[39:53] year and then you have the

[39:57] possession and you can compare

[39:58] it.

[39:59] >> Yeah. It would, of course,

[40:00] depend on the amount.

[40:01] >> -- you are saying we are very

[40:03] close. So, we can expect

[40:04] something --

[40:05] >> Well, we will see. We can

[40:08] expect something one way or the

[40:12] other --

[40:13] >> -- the periodic please might

[40:16] be a answer to the solution. A

[40:18] question, a different subject --

[40:24] leaves blowers. Our neighbour

[40:26] has four of them coming in every

[40:28] two weeks, three weeks in the

[40:30] summer. Not only to blow leads

[40:32] but to blow grass. So, they've

[40:35] -- for Un bruit infernal. About

[40:36] two hours. You see, Beaconsfield

[40:39] has a lot of them. -- electrical

[40:43] ones, at certain times. Has the

[40:47] city consider doing something

[40:49] about some kind of a

[40:54] >> It's a debate. It's up there

[40:56] with -- there are a few --

[40:59] >> --

[41:00] >> Speed bumps are debates. Leaf

[41:01] blowers are debates.

[41:03] >> Okay.

[41:04] >> These are all items that are

[41:05] there that are up for debate. It

[41:07] remains to be seen. I am not a

[41:09] huge fan of them myself, the gas

[41:12] powered ones. But I can't speak

[41:13] for --

[41:15] >> Electrical ones make one

[41:16] tenth the noise. So, that might

[41:19] also be way less noisy than the

[41:22] gas ones. It could be an

[41:24] intermediate solution.

[41:25] >> It's a good suggestion. I'm

[41:27] not against it.

[41:31] >> --

[41:32] >> A third one --

[41:34] >> And then I'm through -- the

[41:39] coronation of traffic lights on

[41:41] Saint John --

[41:42] >> Guys, guys --

[41:45] >> This is what I'm told, this

[41:46] is what I'm told --

[41:47] >> There is no one there

[41:50] sometimes. It's recurrent all

[41:51] the time. And yet, one street

[41:53] over that way, one street over

[41:56] that way, no problem --

[41:58] >> They are not perfect, though.

[42:00] Everyone --

[42:03] >> Perfectly synchronized --

[42:04] >> Saint John seems to be --

[42:08] having driven all three I have

[42:09] not noticed that.

[42:11] >> Point Saint John --

[42:12] >> I find red lights on all

[42:14] three of them. I've stopped on

[42:16] all three of them but from what

[42:18] I am told and I am not an expert

[42:21] -- disinclination is there but

[42:23] when I walk signal is push it

[42:25] throws off the synchronization.

[42:26] This is what I have been told by

[42:29] my experts. I hear you, though.

[42:31] >> Anyways --

[42:34] >> Sorry, you can only

[42:37] synchronize one side at a time

[42:38] too. Like, you can't have all

[42:40] the lights green going north and

[42:41] south at the same time. It

[42:43] doesn't work that way.

[42:45] >> Okay. Okay.

[42:47] >> Because then all the lights

[42:48] would just be green, endless,

[42:50] only going north and south and

[42:51] never going east and west. So,

[42:53] that is a problem. We have had

[42:54] had DDO DDOs -- so that the

[43:02] entire length of Saint-Jean's is

[43:05] well coordinated. But what I

[43:06] found is, it depends on where

[43:07] you are coming, from and the

[43:09] time. They have been planned

[43:10] for, I guess, peak traffic times

[43:12] but. If you are coming off the

[43:16] 40 westbound going south, then

[43:19] -- yes -- you get red lights all

[43:20] the way down. That is

[43:22] guaranteed. That is just how

[43:23] they are sink

[43:29] synced -- but also, when someone

[43:32] pushes the cross, it throws --

[43:35] >> -- and it does not happen..

[43:38] >> It's because we have

[43:40] pedestrian priority.

[43:41] >> But there is less pedestrians

[43:44] on both those streets?

[43:45] >> No, we have pedestrian

[43:47] priority and they don't

[43:48] necessarily have pedestrian

[43:49] priority.

[43:51] >> Anyways -- thanks for your

[43:53] time.

[43:54] >> Thank you, Mr. Babbis --

[43:56] >> I will be looking forward to

[43:58] a -- on the --

[44:03] >> David MacLachlan?

[44:13] ,

[44:14] >> Good evening. I'm here to

[44:16] follow up on a question that I

[44:17] had at the beginning of 2022,

[44:22] with climate change. At that

[44:24] time, in the Council's attention

[44:30] -- the inter governmental panel

[44:32] on climate change. It calls for

[44:35] radical action to limit

[44:37] greenhouse gases, specifically

[44:40] the IPCC states that emissions

[44:41] need to be reduced by 45%

[44:44] compared with 2010 levels in

[44:46] order to limit global

[44:48] temperature increases to --

[44:50] degrees Celsius. I was

[44:52] disappointed with the response

[44:54] that I received in 2022. Because

[44:56] it stopped short of

[44:58] acknowledging that radical

[44:59] action was necessary.

[45:00] Nonetheless, there was an

[45:02] acknowledgement that the City

[45:03] needs to do better, which was

[45:04] better than nothing. Since then,

[45:07] the situation has gotten worse

[45:09] and there is now, in the past

[45:11] week, we learned that there are

[45:12] parts of California where you

[45:14] cannot ensure your house anymore

[45:16] because of wildfires. -- here in

[45:21] Québec -- the wild fires

[45:23] earlier, but you neglected to

[45:24] mention one of the -- important

[45:26] factors. I will quote an article

[45:28] from CTV. It's a simple fact

[45:30] that Canada is experiencing the

[45:32] impacts of climate change,

[45:34] including more and more extreme

[45:35] wildfires. Said natural

[45:38] resources minister Minister

[45:40] Jonathan Wilson Wilkinson --

[45:44] projected projected to double by

[45:46] -- changing climate, causing

[45:48] longer, more intense wildfire

[45:50] seasons and more extreme -- and

[45:55] increasing drought. -- smoke

[45:58] from wildfires my question is,

[46:01] what specific actions has the

[46:02] city taken in the last year to

[46:05] reduce its greenhouse gas

[46:07] emissions?

[46:08] >> What have we done? We have

[46:10] been very diligent on preventing

[46:11] the cutting of trees, which is

[46:13] substantial. We have moved to

[46:16] electric vehicles as much as we

[46:18] can. We have tried to ensure

[46:20] environmental building practices

[46:22] on new constructions. These are

[46:25] a few that I can come up with. I

[46:26] am sure there are more.

[46:31] >> Those are the ones that --

[46:35] >> What does that --

[46:36] >> -- apparently, if every

[46:39] person stop a tree from being

[46:40] cut, we could save the world, we

[46:42] could say the ozone layer, we

[46:44] could save everything.

[46:46] Apparently, trees can save our

[46:47] lives and not cutting them is

[46:49] one of the -- far greater than

[46:51] producing these of the

[46:52] automobile. And --

[46:56] >> You are absolutely mistaken.

[46:59] I don't think so.

[47:00] >> It would take three times the

[47:03] size of Pointe-Claire planted

[47:06] with trees to cancel out the

[47:08] emissions that we generate. --

[47:10] we don't have an area three

[47:12] times the area of Pointe-Claire.

[47:13] What we need to do in this city

[47:15] is reduce our greenhouse gas

[47:17] emissions. And that is what my

[47:19] question was about. My follow-up

[47:22] question is, do you think we are

[47:24] doing enough?

[47:25] >> No. We can keep, going

[47:27] absolutely. There are all kinds

[47:29] of technologies that we can use

[47:30] to reduce greenhouse gas

[47:32] emissions. And they have not

[47:33] been implemented yet. Many -- we

[47:36] can go to electric leaf blowers

[47:38] as opposed to gas once. There

[47:40] are many ways we can reduce. We

[47:42] could have natural gardens on

[47:44] all of our front lawns. That's a

[47:46] nice way -- there are many, many

[47:48] --

[47:49] >> Sorry -- greenhouse gas

[47:50] emissions --

[47:51] >> You create more greenery and

[47:53] therefore you increase the

[47:55] oxygen levels and less -- it's

[47:59] been proven, has it not? I mean,

[48:01] that's what most

[48:03] environmentalist have taught me.

[48:05] I'm not an expert but --

[48:06] >> --

[48:07] >> I think solving the problem

[48:10] requires individual efforts of

[48:12] everybody around the world on a

[48:14] constant basis. -- that's why we

[48:15] were cycle properly. That's why

[48:17] we do things in our homes

[48:19] individually. And I was at a

[48:21] meeting this morning about water

[48:22] consumption and how you just

[48:24] reduce a dripping tap. You can

[48:26] preserve so much water in one

[48:27] home. And if citizens across all

[48:29] cities or countries can reduce

[48:31] the dripping tap it would have a

[48:33] huge impact. So, fighting

[48:36] environmental -- or trying to

[48:37] prevent the environmental crisis

[48:39] is all about responsibility in

[48:41] every individual that we can on

[48:42] a constant basis. And

[48:44] denigrating any attempt by

[48:45] anyone to do so defeats the

[48:47] purpose, Mr. McGill aqua.

[48:57] McLaughlin

[49:00] >> --

[49:01] >> --

[49:02] >> Do you?

[49:04] >> NASA, for example, published

[49:06] a study looking at what we would

[49:07] have to do as a society to

[49:12] cancel out -- greenhouse gas

[49:16] emissions down to -- they looked

[49:17] at what it would take on a

[49:19] worldwide basis. They concluded

[49:22] that if we reinforced it every

[49:24] possible corner of the planet,

[49:26] it would provide about 20 years

[49:29] of greenhouse gas emissions. We

[49:32] don't have that kind of real

[49:35] estate in Pointe-Claire. What we

[49:36] do have is a lot of cars and, in

[49:39] my view, what we need to do is

[49:41] stop using so many cars. And we

[49:46] need to cut down on the energy

[49:49] that is consumed by our

[49:51] buildings by telling people that

[49:52] they can solve the problem by

[49:54] planting nice gardens, you are

[49:57] avoiding the real problem.

[49:59] >> It's not avoiding. It's one

[50:01] way you can solve it. One of

[50:03] many ways you can solve it. And

[50:05] by precluding all other ways is

[50:06] not the solution either. I

[50:08] think, if anybody can, in any

[50:11] way, shape, or form, then they

[50:12] should do so. And to denigrate

[50:14] any of them and say, others are

[50:16] more important, is limiting all

[50:17] of our attempts to save the

[50:19] planet, in my opinion, sir.

[50:34] -- Conway?

[50:41] >> Good evening, Mayor Thomas,

[50:42] Council. So, I participated in

[50:46] the -- workshop with the new

[50:48] planning program, with the firm

[50:54] Pour l'enregistrement,

[50:56] pouvez-vous être plus proche du

[50:57] micro?

[51:12] -- anything of what I said?

[51:16] >> We'll --

[51:17] >> Start again?

[51:19] >> Start again, why not.

[51:21] >> I participate in the --

[51:23] planning program, with the firm

[51:25] PC2. And the first topic,

[51:27] actually, was -- I'm going to

[51:28] touch on the previous subject.

[51:30] The first question or topic was

[51:32] about bicycles. So, here's a

[51:33] question about how many people

[51:35] bike as a main mode of

[51:38] transportation. And then, I

[51:40] noticed, after that conversation

[51:44] spilled in social media. So, I

[51:47] think biking is wonderful. But,

[51:49] actually, I have kind of given

[51:50] up on biking to cross the

[51:53] highways, 40 and 20, because the

[51:56] condition is too -- I would go

[51:57] with my family biking until it

[52:00] bizarre

[52:09] L'île-Bizard -- I think it's

[52:13] wonderful to be able to bike.

[52:14] But I don't bike, also, when

[52:17] it's raining or winter, or very

[52:18] cold. So, I can't do that. But I

[52:20] think the idea of biking is very

[52:22] good. And -- on the topic,

[52:25] previously, how about when you

[52:28] consider building new condos,

[52:29] how about instead of allocating

[52:31] a parking spot, why don't we

[52:33] give tenants biking spots? That

[52:36] could help with our situation.

[52:38] >> Is that your question?

[52:40] >> --

[52:41] >> That's already happening and

[52:43] --

[52:44] >> --

[52:45] >> There are already biking

[52:46] spots. And I agree with you,

[52:47] there need to be more of them. I

[52:49] also agree -- and also to speak

[52:51] to Mr. McLaughlin's point, we've

[52:53] also done a fair amount of bike

[52:57] paths recently, which is one of

[52:58] the many ways that -- and

[53:02] Councillor Tremblay Spence's

[53:03] life on a bike, most of the

[53:05] time. More so than me. I have a

[53:07] problem in Pointe-Claire going

[53:10] south -- and you are going over

[53:13] the 40 or 20, it's tricky. But,

[53:16] I'm sorry, I digress.

[53:18] >> So, is there a situation for

[53:20] how there could be a solution

[53:22] rather when it's raining or very

[53:24] cold or winter, snowing? There's

[53:27] 30 centimetres. I don't know how

[53:29] people can continue to use

[53:31] biking as their main mode of

[53:33] transportation in those

[53:34] situations. I don't know -- it's

[53:35] not an answer tonight, but the

[53:37] --

[53:38] >> Well, they are developing

[53:39] bikes that can actually do it.

[53:40] There are bikes you can ride

[53:41] right through the winter and

[53:42] they are getting quite good at

[53:46] it.

[53:47] >> Okay.

[53:48] >> It's whether you are sturdy

[53:49] enough as a human being to do

[53:51] it. That's the issue.

[53:52] >> And how about easing some of

[53:55] the traffic on Saint-Jean's?

[53:58] We've got the streets -- and

[54:01] still view and Del Mar. If you

[54:03] open up still view through the

[54:04] highway to Somerset, and if you

[54:06] open up Del Mar through the --

[54:10] it will ease up some of the

[54:12] traffic on Saint-Jean because

[54:13] all the construction that

[54:15] happened is -- and L'île-Bizard,

[54:18] it just brought more traffic on

[54:20] Saint-Jean. So, why is this

[54:23] never done or has it ever been

[54:25] considered? Is there going to be

[54:26] a day when it is done?

[54:29] >> It's a good question. Not

[54:30] that I can see on the horizon.

[54:35] Certainly on the L'île-Bizard --

[54:37] extension is one that has been

[54:38] on the books for a long, long

[54:40] time, and would be a huge want

[54:42] to help us alleviate the strain

[54:47] on Saint-Jean's -- the others I

[54:50] am not sure of. I know that

[54:52] often gets used a lot,

[54:54] unfortunately, to circumvent a

[54:56] lot of the Saint-Jean

[54:57] circulation. I don't don't know

[54:59] about the extensions of the

[55:00] others. Do any of you -- Madam

[55:05] --

[55:06] >> Not that I know. The other

[55:09] one was L'île-Bizard --

[55:10] discussed a couple of years ago.

[55:13] >> So, not that I know of.

[55:16] >> So --

[55:18] >> The L'île-Bizard -- the most

[55:20] --

[55:22] >> On -- Saint-Jean because it's

[55:24] the most treacherous --

[55:26] >> Yes, it is.

[55:28] >> -- it's kind of said that we

[55:30] are being encouraged to bike.

[55:32] But I'm just biking around my

[55:35] own neighbourhood.

[55:38] >> North to south in

[55:41] Pointe-Claire, even on public

[55:43] transit, is it difficult. -- so,

[55:45] we have to resolve that.

[55:47] Somehow, going forward, we have

[55:50] to -- I think Jacques-Bizard is

[55:51] a hugely important one. The cars

[55:54] everything is going to

[55:55] bottleneck in Pointe-Claire if

[55:56] we don't do that. So, it's a

[55:58] serious issue.

[55:59] >> Okay. Thank you for listening

[56:00] to my question.

[56:02] >> -- comments with regard to

[56:04] those questions and, in a way,

[56:06] answer part of McLaughlin's

[56:08] comments, statements. So, I do

[56:10] ride my bike quite a bit around

[56:11] town. I have been doing that

[56:13] since I was a teenager, whenever

[56:16] I could ride it. The solution is

[56:18] pretty simple when it comes to

[56:19] bikes. It's by a helmet, get a

[56:22] bike, and just get out there,

[56:25] and start moving along. It's a

[56:26] lot easier than you think. The

[56:29] bike path network that we have

[56:30] out here in Pointe-Claire is

[56:32] beginning to improve

[56:34] substantially, thanks to work

[56:35] that was done by previous

[56:38] administrations. And hopefully,

[56:39] we can add to that. One of the

[56:41] things that I shared with

[56:42] council members recently is, I

[56:44] actually followed some of the

[56:46] paths that took me out of the

[56:47] way from riding in a direct line

[56:49] to where I wanted to go. And I

[56:50] was able to avoid cars, simply

[56:53] by following these different

[56:54] paths. So, what we are really

[56:57] missing north-south, as

[56:59] everybody has talked about --

[57:00] the good news is, we are in a

[57:03] position now, if I remember, Mr.

[57:06] Mayor, regarding the bridge --

[57:08] that we have, now, with the

[57:10] federal government, acquired

[57:11] funding that will help us to

[57:14] develop a path for foot traffic

[57:16] and four bikes as well. So, the

[57:22] more people out there on bikes,

[57:24] the higher the volume of people

[57:26] riding that way. If you are cars

[57:28] there will be -- it becomes

[57:33] contagious, in some ways.

[57:35] Everybody else wants to get on

[57:38] and start writing. I would

[57:39] encourage -- to do that. As far

[57:43] as climate change -- hopefully

[57:46] walked or took your bike. I am

[57:48] aware that you have two cars. Is

[57:50] it just one? Just going from

[57:53] your place and talking to -- I

[57:54] know you. But one of the --

[57:57] >> --

[57:58] >> I'm sorry? I meant it as a --

[58:02] >> Excuse me, Councillor -- that

[58:03] is not your call.

[58:07] >> --

[58:08] >> That's not your co-, sir.

[58:11] >> This was not meant as a

[58:15] criticism of Mr. McLaughlin. We

[58:17] have to do what we have to do in

[58:18] life. But one of the ways to

[58:20] circumvent the problem is to --

[58:22] take the STM as much as you

[58:25] possibly can. It's not a

[58:27] complete solution. -- there's so

[58:28] much to discuss. I don't want to

[58:30] take -- to go over the climate

[58:33] change issues. But I just

[58:34] encourage everybody, the next

[58:35] time you come out to one of

[58:36] these meetings, walk or take a

[58:38] bike. And that will contribute

[58:40] to -- the other last point I

[58:42] would like to make is

[58:43] collaboration with the other

[58:45] cities so that we could work

[58:47] more effectively at pressuring

[58:50] the powers that be,

[58:51] provincially, federally, in some

[58:53] ways, truly organize ourselves

[58:55] property in mass transit.

[58:59] >> When into take that seriously

[59:01] and start investing seriously

[59:02] and that dome in.

[59:03] >> Thank you. We

[59:06] >> I would like to answer. You

[59:08] are seeing put your helmet and

[59:10] go, but, like, my point was,

[59:13] there are risks. Last year, I

[59:16] almost got hit by a bus on

[59:18] Lakeshore. My family was behind

[59:20] me. So, there are risks. Every

[59:22] year, we hear about people

[59:25] getting hit and, you know,

[59:29] accidents. So, that was my

[59:32] point, to make things safer,

[59:34] before we can just put the

[59:35] helmet and go. As it is now,

[59:37] it's just around my little

[59:39] neighbourhood where I feel

[59:40] safest. I'm not really, I can't

[59:42] really go get my groceries. I

[59:43] can't go to maxi and go get my

[59:46] groceries biking.

[59:48] >> You can. I mean, you can do

[59:50] it. It's not easy, but you can

[59:52] do it. I can get to a maxi, I

[59:54] can't from Pointe-Claire south.

[59:58] I understand.

[59:59] >> If I were to take my family

[1:00:00] with me, you know, I'm concerned

[1:00:02] about my kids in the back. Susan

[1:00:07] Wilson?

[1:00:22] Bonjour, je n'ai pas besoin de

[1:00:25] dire mon, non si vous avez dit

[1:00:26] mon nom. Il y avait une réunion,

[1:00:35] vous étiez censé l'avoir au

[1:00:36] début de l'année avec la Ville

[1:00:38] de Montréal, pour la fluos

[1:00:39] réalise, la fluoration de l'eau

[1:00:41] à Pointe-Claire.

[1:00:43] - Quelle réunion?

[1:00:46] - Vous auriez eu une réunion.

[1:00:48] - On a parlé avec

[1:00:51] l'agglomération au sujet de

[1:00:52] l'eau fluorée, oui. Nous sommes

[1:00:54] responsables.

[1:00:57] - Vous étiez supposé revenir.

[1:01:00] - On a déjà donné toute cette

[1:01:02] information.

[1:01:03] - Je ne l'ai pas eu, moi.

[1:01:04] C'était au début de cette année

[1:01:05] cette réunion.

[1:01:08] - On a parlé plusieurs fois de

[1:01:09] ça. Je n'ai pas les faits devant

[1:01:10] moi.

[1:01:14] Je peux les trouver encore une

[1:01:15] fois.

[1:01:17] - Grosso modo, qu'est-ce qui est

[1:01:18] arrivé?

[1:01:20] - C'est le même résultat que

[1:01:23] toujours. La science est dans le

[1:01:26] domaine de l'agglomération qui

[1:01:29] sont responsables de la Floride

[1:01:30] ça scions à Pointe-Claire.

[1:01:33] - Vous avez dit que c'est allé

[1:01:34] maire de chaque municipalité qui

[1:01:38] décidait.

[1:01:39] - Non, c'est l'agglomération qui

[1:01:41] décide.

[1:01:42] - La décision revenait au maire?

[1:01:43] - Non. La décision finale, assez

[1:01:45] l'agglomération. Absolument.

[1:01:46] - O.K.. Ma deuxième question.

[1:01:51] Vous faites des assemblage pour

[1:01:53] économiser l'eau. Est-ce que

[1:01:55] c'est possible d'en faire

[1:01:58] anti-fluor pour ceux qui n'en

[1:01:59] veulent pas?

[1:02:00] - Bonne question, si la science

[1:02:01] existe, c'est possible.

[1:02:04] - Il y en a une, c'est l'osmose

[1:02:05] à l'inverse.

[1:02:11] Je ne peux pas dire non, j'ai

[1:02:13] aucune idée. On peut peut-être

[1:02:14] faire une recherche.

[1:02:16] - Osmose inverse.

[1:02:17] - Si c'est facile.

[1:02:21] - Je ne sais pas si vous avez

[1:02:23] autre chose.

[1:02:24] - Sait-on jamais. On peut faire

[1:02:27] la recherche.

[1:02:29] - Vous reviendrez avec ça pour

[1:02:31] la prochaine réunion.

[1:02:33] - Peut-être, oui, ça dépend de

[1:02:34] l'administration. On va chercher

[1:02:38] si c'est trop cher, si c'est

[1:02:40] possible, si ça existe, si c'est

[1:02:43] indisponible. Sait-on jamais.

[1:02:45] - O.K., c'est tout.

[1:02:46] - Merci

[1:02:49] >> Kim Freeman?

[1:02:55] >> Hi, everybody. I've got a

[1:02:58] short preamble, but before I

[1:02:59] start, I would like to say that

[1:03:02] I agree that it's about time.

[1:03:06] Climate change, there's not one

[1:03:07] solution, but many. We need to

[1:03:09] get rid of greenhouse gases,

[1:03:12] plant trees, and native plant

[1:03:14] gardens can do a lot. Just left!

[1:03:19] Anyway, if anybody wants to see

[1:03:20] what's going on in my yard, you

[1:03:21] are all welcome. 165 sunnyside.

[1:03:25] Now, also, I did a talk at the

[1:03:27] library on May 17th and it's up

[1:03:30] on Vimeo finally. Denis just

[1:03:33] called us today, so if you want

[1:03:34] to have a look at that, go for

[1:03:35] it. Or come and visit, that is

[1:03:37] good. Okay, now, by way of

[1:03:39] introduction, my name is Kim

[1:03:41] Freeman. I live at 165 sunnyside

[1:03:43] Avenue near Arthur Seguin Park.

[1:03:45] I'm one of Cynthia's kids. We've

[1:03:49] lived there for 42 years. My

[1:03:52] husband's family moved to

[1:03:53] Pointe-Claire in 1946. They

[1:03:55] bought the lakeshore news and

[1:03:57] publish the award winning

[1:03:58] newspaper for more than 30

[1:03:59] years. We even had a relative

[1:04:01] who came to Pointe-Claire after

[1:04:03] the American revolution and

[1:04:04] opened an apothecary at the

[1:04:05] village in the 1970s. Our roots

[1:04:08] here are deep. We love living in

[1:04:09] Pointe-Claire and care about it

[1:04:10] deeply, for its future. More and

[1:04:13] more, I feel that we must take

[1:04:15] another direction with regards

[1:04:16] to environmental statements,

[1:04:18] sustainability. Terracotta and

[1:04:20] the butterfly and pollinator

[1:04:22] gardens are great initiatives to

[1:04:23] educate citizens, and we need to

[1:04:25] expand on that. The fact is,

[1:04:28] don't hate me for this, the fact

[1:04:30] is, Lance are simply not good

[1:04:32] for the environment. That is not

[1:04:33] an easy thing to wrap peoples

[1:04:35] heads around, especially those

[1:04:36] who love their lawns, and I get

[1:04:37] it. I was raised in a house with

[1:04:40] a nice lawn, as well as my

[1:04:42] husband. My conversion to a

[1:04:43] large native garden was very

[1:04:45] gradual, almost incremental. It

[1:04:47] took a lot of research and soul

[1:04:48] searching to admit that Lance

[1:04:49] are, in essence, detrimental for

[1:04:51] the environment. Lawns are the

[1:04:53] most irrigated crop in North

[1:04:55] America. In the U.S., more gases

[1:04:57] spilled filling long care

[1:04:59] devices every summer than it was

[1:05:00] lost in the Exxon Valdez

[1:05:02] disaster. That's every summer.

[1:05:05] Turf grass, which makes up the

[1:05:06] bulk of Lance, has very short

[1:05:07] root systems, which require a

[1:05:08] lot of water to keep them

[1:05:10] looking lush and green. Sadly,

[1:05:12] much of that water simply runs

[1:05:13] off the lawn and does not soak

[1:05:15] in. We here in Pointe-Claire are

[1:05:18] fortunate enough to live in one

[1:05:19] of the richest countries on the

[1:05:22] planet and in one of the most

[1:05:23] prosperous and privileged

[1:05:24] communities in Canada. It is

[1:05:26] incumbent on us to do our own

[1:05:28] part to mitigate the effects of

[1:05:30] climate change. All one has to

[1:05:32] do is look around and see the

[1:05:34] devastation brought by the

[1:05:35] hundreds of ongoing forest fires

[1:05:36] across Canada. While we are

[1:05:38] lucky enough to have plentiful

[1:05:39] clean water now, this will most

[1:05:41] likely not be the case in the

[1:05:43] future. My point is that if

[1:05:45] people want their lawns, so be

[1:05:47] it. But I do not believe

[1:05:49] Pointe-Claire should make any

[1:05:50] attempt to legislate the efforts

[1:05:51] of those who want to do

[1:05:52] something more environmentally

[1:05:54] responsible with the property

[1:05:55] that surrounds their house. Any

[1:05:57] such bylaw would be cumbersome

[1:05:58] for the City to administer and

[1:06:00] police. It would only serve to

[1:06:02] discourage many residents from

[1:06:03] even trying. Rather, I would

[1:06:06] encourage the City to educate

[1:06:08] the assist homeowners in such an

[1:06:09] endeavour. There are many such

[1:06:11] programs throughout the world

[1:06:12] and this trend is only getting

[1:06:14] started. Developing native

[1:06:16] pollinator gardens can be

[1:06:17] equally beautiful, as any lawn

[1:06:19] and incredibly satisfying.

[1:06:21] Finally, if we do not do it,

[1:06:23] then who will? My question is

[1:06:25] the following. What is the city

[1:06:27] planning to do with if anything

[1:06:29] regarding the natural native,

[1:06:31] excuse me, pollinator gardens

[1:06:33] that citizens have developed or

[1:06:34] might want to develop? Thank

[1:06:36] you.

[1:06:38] >> Okay, well, I can't speak for

[1:06:39] all of Council on that one, but

[1:06:41] I think there are many,

[1:06:43] including the mayor, who very

[1:06:45] much like the possibility of

[1:06:47] natural gardens. I think they

[1:06:48] are one of the solutions which I

[1:06:49] was giving to Mr. McLeod Flynn

[1:06:50] as well. Which I think is quite

[1:06:56] important. And one way as

[1:06:58] citizens we can do it, and I've

[1:07:00] seen some of the ones, I've seen

[1:07:02] yours, and I've seen a few

[1:07:03] others that I found really quite

[1:07:04] attractive. The problem with

[1:07:06] natural gardens, of course, is

[1:07:07] that they are not attractive at

[1:07:08] first, for quite awhile. And

[1:07:12] therein lies the problem. People

[1:07:14] don't like them. But

[1:07:15] >> I think we can work towards

[1:07:19] changing that. It is difficult

[1:07:21] initially. I think there's a we

[1:07:23] need to educate people about

[1:07:24] what might be going on and in a

[1:07:27] garden, as it's developed, and

[1:07:29] the people who are doing these

[1:07:30] gardens, perhaps that would be

[1:07:31] part of the education is how to

[1:07:33] make it more appealing for

[1:07:36] people who do not understand.

[1:07:39] That was why I was trying to do

[1:07:40] it in my top, as well, there's a

[1:07:42] new book by Benjamin Floyd, he's

[1:07:44] written a couple. I've only read

[1:07:46] the first one. He's working on

[1:07:49] restoring tall grass prairies in

[1:07:51] Wisconsin and he has some ideas

[1:07:53] for perhaps making it more

[1:07:54] appealing. I think this city

[1:07:57] maybe we can, I don't know, find

[1:08:00] a way to develop this idea

[1:08:02] further.

[1:08:03] >> Me too, me too. We are

[1:08:05] actually starting our own

[1:08:07] initiative along, or we may be

[1:08:09] starting one with the city

[1:08:10] itself in the near future. I

[1:08:11] don't know if I can speak to it

[1:08:13] yet. But we are thinking, as a

[1:08:15] city, of initiating our own in

[1:08:17] our own way.

[1:08:19] >> Thank you very much, thank

[1:08:20] you. You are all welcome to come

[1:08:21] over.

[1:08:27] >> 165 sunnyside, Kim? That's

[1:08:28] it, okay.

[1:08:29] [Inaudible]

[1:08:31] >> That is my favourite, be

[1:08:32] careful. Elizabeth Stein son, or

[1:08:37] Stinson? Elizabeth? Hey!

[1:08:41] [Inaudible]

[1:08:46] [Laughter]

[1:08:51] >> So, at least you didn't come

[1:08:53] to ask a question. Do you want

[1:08:55] one, though? While you have the

[1:08:56] opportunity.

[1:08:57] [Inaudible]

[1:09:10] [Inaudible]

[1:09:13] >> Interesting. Thank you, Liz.

[1:09:18] Katie Hadley?

[1:09:27] >> I think this is the right

[1:09:29] height for me. Can you hear me?

[1:09:30] Okay, all right. Good evening,

[1:09:32] Mister Mayor.

[1:09:33] >> -- is ready, there we go.

[1:09:35] >> I guess, okay. As you can

[1:09:36] see, I'm part of the collective

[1:09:38] Northview voice. I will say this

[1:09:40] silver lining to this, rather

[1:09:41] exhaustive and discouraging

[1:09:43] process, has been meeting many

[1:09:44] of the neighbours I had not met

[1:09:46] before. It's been an excellent

[1:09:47] experience to bring the

[1:09:48] community together, so I'm

[1:09:50] taking that with me in this

[1:09:51] process. So, I will echo a

[1:09:54] little bit of what Sarah is

[1:09:55] saying, but I would like to say

[1:09:56] that the collective Northview

[1:09:58] voice has not diminished in this

[1:10:00] process and, in fact, it's

[1:10:02] growing considerably louder.

[1:10:03] Resulting in increasing the

[1:10:04] number of signatures on our

[1:10:06] original petition, when we first

[1:10:07] started this, by 143%. So, to

[1:10:10] me, the voice is there, it's

[1:10:12] loud. And I know you're probably

[1:10:13] tired of hearing our opinion and

[1:10:15] I know you want to close this

[1:10:16] chapter, trust me, I do too, and

[1:10:18] move on, but we, as your

[1:10:20] citizens, cannot in good

[1:10:21] conscious give up this fight

[1:10:22] because preserving Northview

[1:10:24] Park and all that it brings our

[1:10:26] community is an issue worth

[1:10:28] fighting for. That being said, I

[1:10:30] never wanted this to be a fight.

[1:10:32] I asked at the last council

[1:10:34] meeting we, as citizens, could

[1:10:35] be involved, how we could use

[1:10:37] our voice constructively, and

[1:10:38] how we could help bring our

[1:10:40] frontline park user perspective

[1:10:41] to be part of the future of our

[1:10:43] beloved Park. We were encouraged

[1:10:45] to keep showing up, to keep

[1:10:47] sharing our opinions, to keep

[1:10:48] being engaged citizens. So, we

[1:10:51] did. We wrote emails, we

[1:10:53] researched facts, we suggested

[1:10:54] alternatives, we brought our

[1:10:56] perspective to the wider

[1:10:57] community, through the media. We

[1:10:59] proposed a win, win situation,

[1:11:00] based on logic and facts. And I

[1:11:02] would like to highlight that

[1:11:03] over this entire process, we

[1:11:05] have done our best to provide

[1:11:07] comprehensive information and

[1:11:09] suggestions and overall, we have

[1:11:11] remained patient and respectful

[1:11:12] in our delivery. I appreciated

[1:11:14] the information session that was

[1:11:15] given as a result to our

[1:11:18] requests last time. But

[1:11:19] ultimately, it was a

[1:11:20] presentation of the project and

[1:11:22] the aspects. It was not a

[1:11:23] dialogue or discussion that

[1:11:25] could provide a clear,

[1:11:27] comprehensive answer, as to why

[1:11:29] this project was selected for

[1:11:31] Northview Park. And it, sadly,

[1:11:33] did not feel like an opportunity

[1:11:34] to be heard, but rather, an

[1:11:35] opportunity to be told. So, our

[1:11:39] plight continued. Late nights of

[1:11:41] finding time to write carefully

[1:11:42] thought out emails, expressing

[1:11:43] all of our reasons, our

[1:11:45] concerns, our suggestions, and

[1:11:48] emails that, quite honestly,

[1:11:49] felt like they got sent off into

[1:11:51] the abyss of city hall. And I

[1:11:53] understand that not all emails

[1:11:54] can be answered, you are busy

[1:11:55] people, there's stuff going on.

[1:11:57] But I would like to provide the

[1:11:59] feedback that the gesture of

[1:12:00] maybe even an auto reply to at

[1:12:04] least acknowledge a receipt of

[1:12:06] an email would feel more

[1:12:07] respectful than no response at

[1:12:08] all. So, that's just a side

[1:12:09] note. I didn't know where they

[1:12:11] went to, how they got there. It

[1:12:12] would help that process, I

[1:12:14] think. And I understand that

[1:12:15] those of you who voted for the

[1:12:16] fence to be included believe in

[1:12:19] your decision and that you think

[1:12:20] that those of us who do not

[1:12:21] agree, well, we will need to

[1:12:23] adapt and accept the fence. But

[1:12:24] I have trouble accepting this,

[1:12:26] and I have trouble understanding

[1:12:28] why our opinion cannot have an

[1:12:29] influence in this situation.

[1:12:32] We've confirmed with baseball

[1:12:33] Québec that baseball can

[1:12:34] continue, as it has for 40

[1:12:35] years, without the fence. We've

[1:12:37] confirmed that there was no

[1:12:38] injury claims related to a

[1:12:40] situation that could've been

[1:12:41] prevented, had there been a

[1:12:42] fence. We have confirmed that

[1:12:44] the contract can be amended and

[1:12:46] other needed upgrades to the

[1:12:47] baseball area can still be put

[1:12:48] in place. But in addition to all

[1:12:51] those facts, we've also

[1:12:52] confirmed that all of us here,

[1:12:54] and all of us who signed the

[1:12:55] petition, do not agree with the

[1:12:57] decision to include the outfield

[1:12:58] fence in Northview Park. That

[1:13:01] opinion should matter, that

[1:13:02] opinion should be heard. We are

[1:13:05] asking Council to not include

[1:13:07] the outfield fence. Why does it

[1:13:08] not seem to matter? Where is the

[1:13:11] ask from the Northview Park

[1:13:13] users for the outfield fence?

[1:13:15] Development of parks and

[1:13:17] community green spaces should

[1:13:18] have positive impact on the

[1:13:19] users, not a negative one. And I

[1:13:21] just cannot figure out why it

[1:13:23] feels like the Council is so

[1:13:24] determined to push the decision

[1:13:25] through, despite the opposition,

[1:13:28] despite the existence of

[1:13:29] alternatives. In the case of a

[1:13:31] community park, the user

[1:13:32] perspective should matter. So,

[1:13:34] my question is, how is it

[1:13:36] determined that putting this

[1:13:37] outfield fence in Northview Park

[1:13:38] is the best decision for

[1:13:40] Pointe-Claire citizens? How many

[1:13:41] users of Northview Park will

[1:13:43] benefit from the fence. We are

[1:13:45] here tonight because we want our

[1:13:46] voice to matter. It should

[1:13:48] matter. How many of us here are

[1:13:49] here to ask to remove the

[1:13:51] outfield fence from the project?

[1:13:54] How many of us are here to ask

[1:13:55] to put in and out field fence?

[1:13:59] It's not too late to incorporate

[1:14:01] our opinion, Mister Mayor. To

[1:14:03] yourself, you sit in the C.J. 80

[1:14:05] interview that if citizens do

[1:14:06] not want the fence, this should

[1:14:07] be considered. To your point, I

[1:14:10] don't see a petition asking for

[1:14:11] the fence. I don't see the park

[1:14:16] being used all year round for

[1:14:17] baseball and we've determined

[1:14:18] that baseball can happily

[1:14:19] continue to be offered at the

[1:14:20] park without the fence. It is a

[1:14:22] recommendation, not a

[1:14:24] requirement. And you also said

[1:14:25] in your official response that

[1:14:27] in a year, the fence could be

[1:14:28] removed. So far, an opinion can

[1:14:30] matter in a year, why can't our

[1:14:32] opinion just mattered right now?

[1:14:35] >> They do.

[1:14:36] >> That's my question.

[1:14:37] >> They do. Your opinions do

[1:14:39] matter right now, and they have

[1:14:40] had an impact. So, they are

[1:14:44] never wasted. Your councillor

[1:14:48] has changed his mind as a result

[1:14:50] of your opinion. You've

[1:14:53] influenced others. You've had

[1:14:55] media coverage and you've done

[1:14:56] very well, and you have done it

[1:14:57] with the quorum and properly, I

[1:14:59] agree with you on all of the

[1:15:00] above. I think that one of my

[1:15:05] mentors wrote that, had the

[1:15:07] greatest things in life happen

[1:15:08] not because of the nation state,

[1:15:09] but in spite of it. And what he

[1:15:12] was talking about was politics

[1:15:14] in general. At the

[1:15:16] decision-making level, the

[1:15:20] decision-making level is never

[1:15:21] the level that really matters.

[1:15:22] The level that really matters is

[1:15:24] public opinion. The way people

[1:15:26] think. He was referring to

[1:15:27] feminism or environmentalism,

[1:15:29] which happened in spite of

[1:15:31] governments. In other words,

[1:15:32] enough of the world thought a

[1:15:33] certain way and eventually

[1:15:35] governments come around. So,

[1:15:38] that's politics and you've

[1:15:40] exercised, on a smaller level,

[1:15:42] that process, and you've done it

[1:15:43] well. Who knows? I mean, I never

[1:15:46] give up on things.

[1:15:49] >> As do we not. It

[1:15:51] >> In closing, I respectively

[1:15:53] ask Council to remove the

[1:15:54] outfield fence from the project

[1:15:56] and listen to your citizens and

[1:15:57] your users of the park. And

[1:15:59] thank you for letting --

[1:16:00] >> You've done that really well.

[1:16:01] Thank you.

[1:16:02] >> Thank you.

[1:16:03] [Applause]

[1:16:05] >> Janet Han?

[1:16:15] >> Good evening. My name is

[1:16:18] Janet Hunt, district three. I

[1:16:19] have a few questions, a bit

[1:16:21] different from, sorry, you hear

[1:16:23] me now?

[1:16:24] >> Yeah, that's better.

[1:16:26] >> That's true. That's good,

[1:16:27] thanks. So, my name is Janet

[1:16:30] Hunt, district three. I've got a

[1:16:32] few questions, that are a little

[1:16:34] bit different from what was

[1:16:35] brought up this evening. I'm

[1:16:39] just curious as to how the City

[1:16:41] arrived at the valuation of

[1:16:44] homes this year. Homes, the

[1:16:47] valuation has gone up by very

[1:16:51] aggressively, approximately

[1:16:52] close to 50% from last year. So,

[1:16:56] that is a huge jump. Our incomes

[1:16:59] have not gone up that high.

[1:17:01] Living expenses have also gone

[1:17:04] up quite high. And why is there

[1:17:06] a fee for residents who want to

[1:17:09] contest this valuation? Whether

[1:17:11] it is accepted in the end or

[1:17:14] rejected. It doesn't really make

[1:17:15] much sense to have. It's like

[1:17:17] penalizing us and not

[1:17:19] encouraging us to contest it. We

[1:17:23] don't agree with it. So, can you

[1:17:25] speak to that?

[1:17:26] >> Yeah, I mean, -- do you want

[1:17:28] to speak to that? Sure, go

[1:17:29] ahead.

[1:17:30] >> High, the reason why I'm

[1:17:32] offering to speak to it is

[1:17:33] because I had this exact

[1:17:34] conversation the last time we

[1:17:35] had the evaluation of role

[1:17:37] increase. It's actually guided

[1:17:38] by the City of Montréal and the

[1:17:40] fees are mandatory by them. And

[1:17:42] I had a good discussion with the

[1:17:46] senior -- was in Valois about

[1:17:49] this discussion because, yes,

[1:17:50] while we fully recognize it is

[1:17:52] painful if you're on a fixed

[1:17:55] income to have this increase in

[1:17:56] taxes, due to the evaluation of

[1:17:57] the role, your long term gain is

[1:17:59] what is there. So, contesting

[1:18:02] the value of your home could put

[1:18:03] you at a disadvantage if you go

[1:18:04] to sell your home, if that's

[1:18:06] what you are relying on for your

[1:18:08] retirement or your future home.

[1:18:10] And I believe that most of the

[1:18:12] cases, unfortunately, do not go

[1:18:14] in favour of the contestation.

[1:18:15] So, you are paying the fee, you

[1:18:18] may get a reduction of maybe

[1:18:21] $100 and so, it has to go up to

[1:18:23] three years, maybe, to make that

[1:18:25] back. And then there's a new

[1:18:26] reevaluation that's coming up

[1:18:28] for Montréal. So, it's designed

[1:18:30] process that's really not in the

[1:18:32] favour of a resident. I believe

[1:18:33] some businesses have had some

[1:18:35] success with it. But it is, yes,

[1:18:38] 100 percent difficult, but the

[1:18:39] overall again is for you, in the

[1:18:41] end, with their higher valuation

[1:18:42] of your home.

[1:18:45] >> However, if we are not

[1:18:46] selling the home and we want to

[1:18:47] live there, the taxes,

[1:18:48] obviously, are going to go up on

[1:18:51] the evaluation is higher. And

[1:18:52] this is going to force a lot of

[1:18:54] people to sell their homes, but

[1:18:56] they are not necessarily going

[1:18:57] to successfully sell it at the

[1:18:59] price that you have evaluated it

[1:19:01] at. Because prices are not --

[1:19:03] >> Based on the homes sold in

[1:19:05] the area. So, all the

[1:19:06] evaluations are based on all the

[1:19:07] homes within a quadrant that are

[1:19:10] compared of what has been

[1:19:11] selling. So, they're taking it

[1:19:13] based on the market, what's

[1:19:15] going on. There could be changes

[1:19:17] or it might not, it may stay

[1:19:18] stable if the market becomes

[1:19:20] more stable and does not

[1:19:21] increase. But then if the market

[1:19:24] doesn't increase, that would

[1:19:25] give you the stability. But the

[1:19:27] whole evaluation goes up because

[1:19:28] people are able to sell for

[1:19:30] those higher prices. It's a

[1:19:33] difficult situation when you

[1:19:34] need to stay in your home and

[1:19:35] you don't have the equities in

[1:19:36] your home, 100%. The whole

[1:19:38] process is just not very

[1:19:40] favourable to support you

[1:19:41] contesting it.

[1:19:42] >> Exactly and that's the whole

[1:19:43] point. It should be favourable

[1:19:45] to people who want to contest

[1:19:46] it. And as well, it should not

[1:19:52] be done in such a way that it's

[1:19:54] for the long term, because we

[1:19:55] want to be able to exist in our

[1:19:57] homes, live in our homes without

[1:20:01] needing to sell it, in order to

[1:20:02] go through a smaller profiting

[1:20:04] or a smaller place, if we are

[1:20:05] happy with where we live. That's

[1:20:07] where we want to stay. We don't

[1:20:08] necessarily want to move.

[1:20:10] However, it's going to force a

[1:20:11] lot of people to end up selling

[1:20:14] and go into farther places,

[1:20:15] because it's going to become

[1:20:17] very expensive to pay the

[1:20:19] property taxes on a much higher

[1:20:23] valuation.

[1:20:24] >> Councillor Stork, you wanted

[1:20:25] to say something?

[1:20:26] >> Thank you, Mayor, Mayor

[1:20:28] Thomas. This is probably not the

[1:20:31] right forum for this, but I can

[1:20:32] tell you right now, it's a very

[1:20:34] common misnomer that our taxes

[1:20:36] went up because our evaluations

[1:20:38] went up. They are not even

[1:20:40] fundamentally not linked

[1:20:41] together. Your evaluations go

[1:20:42] up, your home goes up, but your

[1:20:44] milk rate goes down. So, it's

[1:20:45] all a question of the city's

[1:20:46] finances. We have to find 13

[1:20:49] point $7 million as our overall

[1:20:51] operating budget between

[1:20:52] operating budget and long term

[1:20:53] debt. That's what increased your

[1:20:55] taxes. So, I would be more than

[1:20:58] happy for myself or anybody

[1:20:59] else, or Kelly, to explain to

[1:21:00] you. But that would be a long

[1:21:02] discussion. It's important to

[1:21:03] realize that your house increase

[1:21:05] and valuations do not really,

[1:21:07] they were not the reason why

[1:21:08] your taxes went up.

[1:21:09] >> So, the percentage of our tax

[1:21:13] and the value of the homes, so

[1:21:15] that if the value of the home

[1:21:18] where 350, now it's 700, if we

[1:21:20] paid 10%, let's say.

[1:21:22] >> We reduce the milk rate to

[1:21:24] 5%, so it would come out to the

[1:21:25] same thing.

[1:21:26] >> Okay, so this is the plan?

[1:21:28] >> That is how we operate our

[1:21:31] tax. That's true --

[1:21:33] >> Sorry, Eric, go ahead.

[1:21:34] >> That's true for the

[1:21:35] Pointe-Claire and of the

[1:21:36] taxation, but the Agglo is a

[1:21:38] whole other world and that's

[1:21:39] where the bulk of the tax comes

[1:21:40] from. It's the agglomeration,

[1:21:42] the City of Montréal. So, we

[1:21:45] have control over our part, our

[1:21:47] end of it, but the bulk of it is

[1:21:50] the City of Montréal.

[1:21:51] >> Yeah and are there any plans

[1:21:53] maybe of a separating from the

[1:21:54] City of Montréal?

[1:21:55] [Laughter]

[1:21:59] >> -- they're all the time!

[1:22:02] >> We are donating our money to

[1:22:03] them. They are fumbling it left,

[1:22:05] right, and centre.

[1:22:06] >> That subject is kicked around

[1:22:07] in the association of suburban

[1:22:09] mayors every month, trust me.

[1:22:11] And it's a distinct possibility

[1:22:12] always. I hear you.

[1:22:15] Unfortunately, legally, we

[1:22:16] cannot.

[1:22:18] >> I've got a few more

[1:22:19] questions.

[1:22:20] >> A few more? One more.

[1:22:21] >> So, there was a surplus of 25

[1:22:24] million in the budget for the

[1:22:26] discussion from last month. And

[1:22:30] also, there were some agenda

[1:22:34] items whereby there were

[1:22:36] donations to nonprofit

[1:22:38] organizations and money that's

[1:22:41] put for parks, swimming pools,

[1:22:44] and maintenance. But at the same

[1:22:45] time, there was eight point on

[1:22:48] auctioning off homes for people

[1:22:49] who are not able to pay their

[1:22:51] taxes. So, I found it a little

[1:22:54] bit disheartening that we are

[1:22:55] donating money to nonprofit

[1:22:58] organizations whose lists are

[1:22:59] not on the website, when we

[1:23:01] could be donating to our own

[1:23:03] residents and helping them to

[1:23:05] stay in their home, rather than,

[1:23:08] you know, a child who has a park

[1:23:11] to go to and has a swimming pool

[1:23:12] to go to, doesn't have a home to

[1:23:14] go to, is not a very happy

[1:23:15] child. So, would you consider

[1:23:21] not donating to nonprofit

[1:23:22] organizations and maybe looking

[1:23:24] at, looking at forgiving taxes

[1:23:26] for those who are not able to

[1:23:28] pay their taxes and donating the

[1:23:31] money in this manner instead of

[1:23:35] it going?

[1:23:36] >> That would be a somewhat

[1:23:37] dangerous precedent, don't you

[1:23:38] think?

[1:23:39] >> I don't think so.

[1:23:40] >> Were we to do that?

[1:23:41] >> I don't think so, I think

[1:23:43] it's humane. It's kindness, and

[1:23:48] it's a community feeling,

[1:23:50] supporting our own residence.

[1:23:52] After all, we've had, you know,

[1:23:54] a surplus of 25 million and

[1:23:56] there was a point in doing

[1:23:58] renovations, which I think was

[1:23:59] not voted on 25 million of

[1:24:02] public work renovations. Which I

[1:24:05] found was strange, but I don't

[1:24:06] think it was discussed, so I

[1:24:07] think that's probably moved from

[1:24:09] the agenda. I don't know what

[1:24:11] happened to that point. I don't

[1:24:13] know how it made it their.

[1:24:14] >> Which one was that?

[1:24:17] >> The renovation of public

[1:24:19] works of Pointe-Claire Public

[1:24:20] Works.

[1:24:21] >> Yes, we had a special general

[1:24:22] meeting. On exactly that

[1:24:25] purpose, where all the citizens

[1:24:27] were invited. And we were quite

[1:24:29] disappointed with the turnout.

[1:24:30] We actually called the meeting

[1:24:31] on that.

[1:24:32] >> When was the meeting?

[1:24:33] >> What was the date, Madam

[1:24:34] Bertrand? Not long ago.

[1:24:38] >> May 9th.

[1:24:40] >> Pardon me?

[1:24:41] >> May 9th.

[1:24:42] >> May 9th we had a special

[1:24:43] general meeting here. Didn't we

[1:24:44] invite all the citizens of

[1:24:45] Pointe-Claire, we announced it,

[1:24:47] did anybody show?

[1:24:51] [Inaudible]

[1:24:52] >> It was announced.

[1:24:53] >> I didn't know about it

[1:24:54] either, actually. Was it on the

[1:24:56] website?

[1:24:57] >> Yes.

[1:24:58] >> It was also on the website?

[1:24:59] >> Yes.

[1:25:00] >> Okay, I didn't know about it.

[1:25:03] And so --

[1:25:04] >> I just want to respond to

[1:25:05] something that's very important.

[1:25:07] Our support of the community

[1:25:10] organizations and the nonprofit

[1:25:11] is essential for our community.

[1:25:13] They rely on cities specifically

[1:25:15] to help the support, we support

[1:25:17] lakeshore General Hospital

[1:25:18] Foundation, various West Island

[1:25:22] community shares. This is really

[1:25:24] where they need help to help

[1:25:26] those most in need and it would

[1:25:27] be highly difficult to assess

[1:25:28] the true need of anybody not

[1:25:30] paying their taxes. And I do not

[1:25:31] believe we ever end up selling

[1:25:33] anyone's home by the time it

[1:25:34] comes to it. Usually, they come

[1:25:36] to it and pay their dues. I do

[1:25:37] not remember the last time we

[1:25:38] actually had an auction. So, it

[1:25:39] has to be put on formal legal

[1:25:41] process that we are going to

[1:25:42] sell the home, but it never gets

[1:25:43] to that point. But I really

[1:25:45] wanted to highlight how much

[1:25:47] Pointe-Claire is part of the

[1:25:48] fabric of the nonprofit

[1:25:50] organizations in that really,

[1:25:51] really is how we support the

[1:25:52] community, and there are so many

[1:25:54] of them, and they really rely on

[1:25:58] Pointe-Claire. I would hate to

[1:25:59] ever have that notion out there

[1:26:00] that it's not needed, because it

[1:26:02] is essential. We are not really

[1:26:04] selling peoples homes in the

[1:26:05] end. But we have to go through

[1:26:07] the process to force people to

[1:26:08] pay their taxes.

[1:26:10] >> So, even if they're forced

[1:26:11] and we have a 25 million dollar

[1:26:14] surplus, and you don't end up

[1:26:15] selling their homes, which is

[1:26:16] really great, that's wonderful,

[1:26:17] but you end up giving to these

[1:26:20] organizations and it would be

[1:26:21] much better to give it to the

[1:26:22] people, so that they can stay in

[1:26:25] their homes, if ever it gets to

[1:26:26] that degree.

[1:26:27] >> We have other supports to

[1:26:28] have people stay in their home,

[1:26:29] like the aid for senior

[1:26:30] programs, and things like that.

[1:26:32] But I would highly doubt that

[1:26:33] the majority of Pointe-Claire

[1:26:34] would agree with the statement

[1:26:35] to not force people to pay their

[1:26:36] taxes. It's just setting a

[1:26:38] precedent, it's opening a whole

[1:26:40] different discussion, and so, we

[1:26:41] look for the proper ways to

[1:26:42] support the community that does

[1:26:46] establish the nonprofits. They

[1:26:47] show us their bank accounts,

[1:26:48] they show us where they receive

[1:26:49] money, they say they would what

[1:26:50] they did with their money. There

[1:26:51] are checks and balances in that

[1:26:53] process and so, I just want to

[1:26:54] uphold that there are so many

[1:26:55] people that are part of that,

[1:26:57] and it's important for us to

[1:26:59] continue our support in that

[1:27:00] way.

[1:27:01] >> Thank you, Miss Hannah in the

[1:27:03] interest of the rest of the

[1:27:04] questions.

[1:27:05] >> You're welcome, thank you.

[1:27:07] >> Glenn Holland?

[1:27:17] >> Hi, good evening. Northview

[1:27:20] Park, one more time. Just to

[1:27:23] augment it a bit, what Sarah and

[1:27:25] Heidi have so well eloquently

[1:27:28] expressed, just a few technical

[1:27:31] details. We were given the same

[1:27:33] presentation that I believe from

[1:27:35] Jill Gerard, director of sports

[1:27:37] and leisure, that was presented

[1:27:38] to the Council sometime in

[1:27:39] December, January. We got that

[1:27:42] presentation on the 10th of May.

[1:27:44] In that presentation, he cited

[1:27:48] the technical qualifications

[1:27:50] coming from dictated for the

[1:27:52] building of offence and parks in

[1:27:54] general from M E as, Minister of

[1:27:57] Education support and law here,

[1:27:58] as well as baseball Québec. He

[1:28:02] cited those as the reason, the

[1:28:03] technical reasons, why the park

[1:28:04] is going to be the way it is.

[1:28:08] Further public research, though,

[1:28:09] when you compare what's actually

[1:28:10] in the plan, which is versus the

[1:28:14] technical aspects coming from

[1:28:16] those two cited organizations,

[1:28:17] one, in the presentation, it was

[1:28:19] not mentioned that this is an

[1:28:21] optional fence, okay? This is

[1:28:23] not mandated. There is no reason

[1:28:25] to have it. It's up to the

[1:28:28] individual location. Two, if

[1:28:31] we've been told this has been

[1:28:33] designated by the park, if you

[1:28:34] look at the regulations cited by

[1:28:36] the Pointe-Claire presentation

[1:28:37] itself, when you look at the

[1:28:40] public regulations, it's

[1:28:41] supposed to be a 300 feet, or

[1:28:44] 305 feet. There's a discrepancy

[1:28:45] between the two organizations.

[1:28:47] But 300 feet is the number we've

[1:28:48] been using. The plan for

[1:28:51] Northview Park is 280 feet. It

[1:28:53] does not even meet the technical

[1:28:55] speck from these two

[1:28:57] organizations after being cited

[1:28:59] by Pointe-Claire. So, I'm just

[1:29:00] going to keep this short. I'm

[1:29:01] going to leave it at that. I

[1:29:03] don't know who designates

[1:29:05] Northview Park as a bantam park.

[1:29:08] I don't know what the criteria

[1:29:09] is used by whom, is it the city

[1:29:12] that sells this is a Bantam

[1:29:13] park? And then if you ask,

[1:29:15] what's the criteria? To define

[1:29:17] it as abandoned Park. You've

[1:29:19] mentioned 31 out of 34, Jada,

[1:29:20] Jada, Jada. It's always in

[1:29:22] regard to the Benton Parks. Who

[1:29:25] decided Northview is going to be

[1:29:26] a bantam park?

[1:29:27] >> That's a good question. Madam

[1:29:29] Verdun? Do we know historically

[1:29:31] who decided?

[1:29:32] >> No, I don't know

[1:29:33] historically, but it's always

[1:29:36] been a bantam park.

[1:29:37] >> I mean, if it's size, just be

[1:29:39] aware, we've done the measuring.

[1:29:41] Cedars is bigger than Northview

[1:29:42] Park, okay? And from what I can

[1:29:45] tell on baseball West Island

[1:29:46] website, there is no baseball

[1:29:49] schedule there at cedars park.

[1:29:51] It seems to be softball from my,

[1:29:53] again, rudimentary

[1:29:54] investigation. Emails to the

[1:29:58] sports and Department of

[1:29:59] Pointe-Claire, through the

[1:30:01] communications department, have

[1:30:02] gone unanswered.

[1:30:03] >> I'm going to let Kelly speak

[1:30:04] to the history of white

[1:30:05] Northview is, but I will point

[1:30:07] out what I pointed out to you

[1:30:08] during the meeting. I give you

[1:30:10] Fenway park as the counter

[1:30:13] argument to your previous

[1:30:14] example, where it's a wonderful

[1:30:17] professional baseball field with

[1:30:19] the green monster to mitigate

[1:30:23] against shortened distance in an

[1:30:24] outfield. Anything is possible

[1:30:26] with the ambiance, the right

[1:30:28] demographics, or whatever

[1:30:29] working, you can make a baseball

[1:30:31] park for other reasons. But

[1:30:32] Kelly, do you want to speak to

[1:30:35] why Northview, how it --

[1:30:39] >> Not 100 percent correct, but

[1:30:40] basically, as a city, our

[1:30:44] recreation departments, with the

[1:30:46] collaboration of engineering, go

[1:30:48] through and look at what fields

[1:30:50] that we have, what sports

[1:30:51] facilities we have, and they

[1:30:52] designate different things. If

[1:30:54] you probably recall many years

[1:30:55] ago, there were many more parks

[1:30:56] that you should be baseball

[1:30:57] fields that got converted into

[1:30:58] soccer fields, because at the

[1:30:59] time, soccer became more

[1:31:00] popular. And so, they take into

[1:31:02] consideration all the locations

[1:31:03] of everything for sport and

[1:31:05] leisure within our community,

[1:31:06] globally, and then they

[1:31:08] attribute what we can attribute

[1:31:10] where, that will meet the

[1:31:11] greatest needs, based on the

[1:31:12] resources we have. Which is also

[1:31:14] why we have changes at

[1:31:17] terracotta, tried to increase

[1:31:18] the different users, which just

[1:31:21] promotes how we do our sports

[1:31:22] facilities, what we consider,

[1:31:24] where we consider putting splash

[1:31:25] pads, where we consider adding

[1:31:28] adapted equipment that does all

[1:31:29] change the landscape of green

[1:31:31] space. I think the issue that's

[1:31:33] a bit of a concern is that

[1:31:35] Northview, as a general park, is

[1:31:38] a general part, but it has a

[1:31:39] pool, a tennis court, open green

[1:31:41] space, but it also has the

[1:31:43] baseball field. And that is the

[1:31:45] issue, that that specific part

[1:31:46] is a sports field. And so, 100%,

[1:31:49] like, you are a wonderful

[1:31:52] committee, you're well spoken,

[1:31:53] we hear your arguments, but it

[1:31:54] was not an, oh, we were deciding

[1:31:56] to change Northview Park, or

[1:31:58] change the location. It's an

[1:32:00] upgrade that was recommended to

[1:32:03] council from our departments

[1:32:04] that look at the different

[1:32:05] upgrades that we put into our P

[1:32:07] E every year. It's the same when

[1:32:08] we redid our arena and I think

[1:32:10] the challenge is that

[1:32:12] Pointe-Claire has never re-a

[1:32:15] sports field or a complex, or a

[1:32:16] building, not according to

[1:32:18] recommendations. It's not what

[1:32:19] we do as a city. Because maybe

[1:32:21] there has not been five injuries

[1:32:23] or ten injuries, whatever, but

[1:32:24] at the moment that it happens,

[1:32:25] and when it happened at the

[1:32:26] arena, they came in and hockey

[1:32:29] Québec measured the boards,

[1:32:31] measured the line, measured

[1:32:32] this, measured that, when there

[1:32:33] was an injury. That, we need to

[1:32:36] consider because that's the

[1:32:37] global consideration that we

[1:32:38] have to take on, as councillors.

[1:32:39] And I understand, I agree that

[1:32:43] there is a perceived change to

[1:32:45] the vocation at the park. But

[1:32:46] from the sports field, none of

[1:32:48] the activities that have been

[1:32:50] stated will change, and there is

[1:32:52] an option of, have you seen

[1:32:54] Greer Park with the beautiful

[1:32:55] vegetation that went all along

[1:32:56] the fence? It's equally as

[1:32:58] gorgeous. There are ways to do

[1:32:59] it that you maintain the

[1:33:01] regulations and the guidelines,

[1:33:03] and you also maintain what we

[1:33:05] need to provide as services to

[1:33:07] the community for the different

[1:33:08] choices of sports field. The

[1:33:10] issue is, there are 31 to 34

[1:33:12] Bantam fields on the fence.

[1:33:13] Lachine is about to change and

[1:33:14] we would be the other one to

[1:33:16] change. So, that's the

[1:33:18] difficult, it's difficult for us

[1:33:19] to say. We are not going to go

[1:33:20] in that direction, we are not

[1:33:21] going to support it. Because I

[1:33:25] agree, it looks like it's

[1:33:26] changing your space, but it was

[1:33:28] not the space. This was a Bantam

[1:33:30] field that needs upgrades and

[1:33:32] the field is the recommendation

[1:33:35] of our D G of engineering and of

[1:33:37] recreation. So, we have to go

[1:33:38] against the recommendations of

[1:33:40] our paid professionals to

[1:33:44] actually uphold that there's

[1:33:46] discomfort with it. And I think

[1:33:47] we could come together with the

[1:33:48] fence, build it like Greer Park,

[1:33:50] it will be beautiful, and it

[1:33:51] would be pleasing, and you still

[1:33:52] have your space.

[1:33:54] >> Thank you.

[1:33:55] >> But it has to be said because

[1:33:56] I think there's a lot of

[1:33:58] misinformation that's being

[1:34:00] shared and there is another

[1:34:01] perspective.

[1:34:02] >> There is no information being

[1:34:03] shared. That's the issue. From

[1:34:06] that May 10th meeting we had

[1:34:07] with Jill, he was supposed to

[1:34:09] give us the documentation to

[1:34:11] support the 280 feet. We have

[1:34:14] public information. Refuting the

[1:34:17] citations by Pointe-Claire, his

[1:34:19] department, that say, no, it has

[1:34:20] to be 300 feet, okay? Not with

[1:34:23] -- Northview people love

[1:34:24] baseball. We are not against

[1:34:26] baseball. My question is, I'm

[1:34:27] just wanting to make you guys

[1:34:29] aware of the technical issues

[1:34:31] cited by Pointe-Claire. The

[1:34:33] organization said 300 and 305

[1:34:35] feet for a bantam size field.

[1:34:38] Who decided this is going to be

[1:34:39] a bantam field, when, example,

[1:34:42] Cedar is --

[1:34:43] >> It's always been a bantam

[1:34:44] field because of how far people

[1:34:46] can hit the ball. So, it cannot

[1:34:48] be, is it midget? We can't be

[1:34:51] the next size up because there

[1:34:52] will be no net, they're -- so,

[1:34:54] they evaluate the fields, then

[1:34:56] they determined that's where

[1:34:57] that field is with the

[1:34:58] recreation teams.

[1:34:59] >> But back to the citation from

[1:35:01] those two organizations, they

[1:35:03] say 300 feet. Cedars has 300

[1:35:05] feet. Valois could be 300 feet.

[1:35:08] Bourgeois is 300, could be 300

[1:35:09] feet.

[1:35:10] >> -- this is the concern. We do

[1:35:12] not just have baseball west

[1:35:14] island to consider, we have

[1:35:15] softball, we have the other

[1:35:17] people who need to use the

[1:35:18] fields, and that's the balance

[1:35:19] with it. So, that's what I'm

[1:35:21] saying is that we hear from the

[1:35:23] associations that work with this

[1:35:24] department of recreation to

[1:35:26] determine what it is.

[1:35:27] >> Respectively, what we've

[1:35:28] heard for three months out, this

[1:35:30] is a bantam park, Bantam Park,

[1:35:32] Bantam Park, okay? Bantam park

[1:35:34] regulations, public knowledge,

[1:35:35] okay? 300 feet. We are building

[1:35:38] fence at the expense of offence,

[1:35:40] 280 feet. Where there is other

[1:35:42] solutions available.

[1:35:43] >> It seems to be acceptable, it

[1:35:44] seems to be acceptable. That's

[1:35:45] why it's being recommended.

[1:35:46] Eric, did you want to speak to?

[1:35:49] >> Yeah, I want to speak to the

[1:35:50] fact that, as Kelly mentioned, I

[1:35:52] think we've given up a lot of

[1:35:54] our baseball fields for soccer

[1:35:55] during that movement, there's no

[1:35:57] question about that. But I must

[1:35:59] disagree with you, Councillor

[1:36:01] Kelly. In reference to the

[1:36:02] administration, the

[1:36:04] administration makes

[1:36:05] administrative decisions. We

[1:36:06] take that information, we

[1:36:07] converted. It wouldn't be the

[1:36:08] first time in history that an

[1:36:10] administrative decision has been

[1:36:11] overruled by Council and in

[1:36:13] reference to many issues,

[1:36:14] starting with one that's on our

[1:36:15] agenda, -- location of the

[1:36:17] washrooms. So, there are

[1:36:19] multiple cases. I understand and

[1:36:21] I have my little say later, but

[1:36:23] this is a very subjective issue

[1:36:26] and I will leave it at that for

[1:36:27] now.

[1:36:30] >> May I suggest maybe delaying

[1:36:31] the fence moratorium the fence?

[1:36:33] Do a better analysis, find out

[1:36:34] all the safety cases, look at

[1:36:36] the other parks, maybe re-check

[1:36:38] the schedule, just as FYI.

[1:36:40] Baseball West Island, itself,

[1:36:42] right now, Miss bourgeois as

[1:36:44] abandoned field. It has a fence.

[1:36:47] It's not 300 feet either, by the

[1:36:48] way. But it's on the schedule.

[1:36:52] It's listed as a band field. Why

[1:36:55] do we need a fence in Northview

[1:36:58] before another Bantam field?

[1:36:59] What is point clear all of a

[1:37:01] sudden need to bantam fields?

[1:37:02] >> Because the bulk of Council

[1:37:04] has decided it does. I think

[1:37:05] that's the answer to your

[1:37:06] question. And we will be voting

[1:37:08] on it shortly. My only concern

[1:37:10] here is, are there any other

[1:37:12] questions other than Northview

[1:37:13] that need to be asked? Because I

[1:37:15] have a list. Thank you, I have a

[1:37:16] list. It's just, I don't mean to

[1:37:18] be harsh, how much time do we

[1:37:20] have left?

[1:37:21] >> Six minutes.

[1:37:22] >> Six minutes, okay. Joseph

[1:37:27] emit?

[1:37:36] >> Good evening. Thank you for

[1:37:40] the opportunity to speak with

[1:37:41] you. I was wondering, if you are

[1:37:45] aware of the terrible condition

[1:37:46] of the road between the village,

[1:37:50] Pointe-Claire Village, and

[1:37:52] boulevard de source. You know,

[1:37:54] that road is used by, some

[1:37:57] weekends, especially by bikers,

[1:38:00] more than cars. And it's

[1:38:03] downright dangerous. There is

[1:38:05] huge, big cracks, there are

[1:38:07] manhole covers that are several

[1:38:09] inches below the surface, so,

[1:38:12] you're going, trying to avoid a

[1:38:14] manhole cover, and you tried

[1:38:15] then, you come to a crack, try

[1:38:17] to avoid that, and the buses are

[1:38:19] coming at you, and I was

[1:38:23] wondering if this is your

[1:38:27] responsibility to build that

[1:38:29] road again? But the worst part

[1:38:31] of the road, you know, Lachine

[1:38:34] is okay, LaSalle, Baie-D'Urfé,

[1:38:36] St. and, you know? That road is

[1:38:38] the most wonderful biking trail

[1:38:40] in the world. It goes all the

[1:38:42] way to old Montréal and that

[1:38:46] spot between the village and the

[1:38:48] sources road is an absolute

[1:38:50] disaster. I was hoping that you

[1:38:55] would take that and look at the

[1:38:57] situation, and see if there's

[1:38:58] anything that can be done.

[1:39:02] >> As a cyclist, I have to tell

[1:39:04] you, it's pretty bad in

[1:39:05] Baie-D'Urfé to, I feel. I've

[1:39:06] gone to Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue,

[1:39:08] I mean, it's hard. This is

[1:39:10] Québec, these are Québec roads.

[1:39:13] Is Pointe-Claire worse than

[1:39:14] anywhere else? I'm not sure. As

[1:39:16] a cyclist, I find you've got to

[1:39:18] keep your wits about you on

[1:39:20] almost all of it. You are

[1:39:22] talking lakeshore, are you

[1:39:24] specifically?

[1:39:25] >> Yeah, lakeshore boulevard.

[1:39:27] >> Sources, from the village?

[1:39:29] >> Particularly -- okay, go

[1:39:31] ahead, Kelly. There's a section.

[1:39:33] >> It's acknowledged and it's on

[1:39:35] our plan of action. There's a

[1:39:37] section being done this summer,

[1:39:38] but we are coordinating, okay,

[1:39:40] don't quote me on this summer, I

[1:39:41] thought it was this summer. But

[1:39:43] we are coordinating with, there

[1:39:45] needs to be some major piping

[1:39:46] work done by the City of

[1:39:47] Montréal. So, as that goes

[1:39:49] through, that work along

[1:39:51] lakeshore, boulevard board the

[1:39:53] Lac will occur. 100%, everyone

[1:39:55] agrees with you, it's a main

[1:39:56] thoroughfare and it's one of the

[1:39:57] criteria that we use when we

[1:39:59] prioritize which he gets done.

[1:40:00] There are various criteria under

[1:40:02] how many water main breaks,

[1:40:03] what's on above, how frequently

[1:40:05] it's used, the amount of

[1:40:06] traffic. But it is already

[1:40:09] acknowledged. It's on the

[1:40:10] engineering list.

[1:40:12] >> Well, you know, like, in

[1:40:15] Dorval, all of a sudden, it's

[1:40:18] silky, you just keep going. But

[1:40:20] that park, you know, between the

[1:40:21] village and the sources is

[1:40:24] really, it has been done over

[1:40:26] and over again, repair, upon

[1:40:28] repair, upon repair.

[1:40:29] >> It is slated to be entirely,

[1:40:30] a lot of it is slated to be

[1:40:32] entirely repaved. Councillor

[1:40:35] towards that Cohen is correct.

[1:40:36] But could I encourage you to try

[1:40:37] a bike path? We have a good one

[1:40:42] along Hymus. We have another

[1:40:43] good one along Donegani as well.

[1:40:49] >> Donegani is beautiful.

[1:40:50] >> -- a lot of bike paths. --

[1:40:54] >> What makes that road, of

[1:40:55] course, very special is the

[1:40:56] board you lack, going by the

[1:40:58] lake. If Lachine can do it, if

[1:41:03] Baie-D'Urfé can do it, I'm sure

[1:41:06] Pointe-Claire can.

[1:41:07] >> Baie-D'Urfé doesn't have a

[1:41:09] bike path along the.

[1:41:10] Baie-D'Urfé, there is no bike

[1:41:11] path. Lachine, in fact, does and

[1:41:12] part of Dorval. There is not a

[1:41:14] bike path, it's not a bike path.

[1:41:16] Baie-D'Urfé, not at all.

[1:41:17] Baie-D'Urfé, you've got the

[1:41:18] little cement trial that pushes

[1:41:19] you right out. I find it even

[1:41:21] more dangerous, but bottom line,

[1:41:24] you are right. Better asphalt is

[1:41:27] better for biking, that's for

[1:41:28] sure. Part of Lake Falls Blake

[1:41:30] shore is getting done, but in

[1:41:31] the meantime, try a bike path.

[1:41:34] They are nice as well.

[1:41:35] >> Well, I personally like that

[1:41:37] because of -- thank you. Thanks

[1:41:39] for listening to me and I hope

[1:41:41] something can be done.

[1:41:42] >> Thank you, sir, I appreciate

[1:41:43] that. Wendy Crowley?

[1:41:52] >> Good evening, thank you. In

[1:41:54] the last council meeting, when

[1:41:56] the discussion was about

[1:41:58] densification and green space,

[1:42:00] Councillor Stork, you said, we

[1:42:02] are looking at punter woods,

[1:42:04] what can be done when something

[1:42:05] goes there? I'm glad you've said

[1:42:07] that because I had not been

[1:42:09] thinking about Ponner Woods or

[1:42:11] paying attention. Since then,

[1:42:13] there's been the beginning of a

[1:42:14] gravel road put in from sources

[1:42:18] into Ponner Woods, so I was

[1:42:19] curious to know what that was

[1:42:20] about. And my question is just,

[1:42:23] who owns the land at Ponner

[1:42:25] Woods and to what extent is this

[1:42:27] a protected reading space?

[1:42:31] >> Airport of Montréal.

[1:42:32] >> It's the airport of Montréal

[1:42:33] land and it was already rezoned

[1:42:36] green space, natural, it is

[1:42:38] green. It is not zoned for

[1:42:39] anything to go in there. And if

[1:42:42] that were to happen, it would

[1:42:43] have to come to Council as an

[1:42:46] amendment to the zoning, which

[1:42:48] is not at all being discussed.

[1:42:50] There could be the gravel road

[1:42:52] going in, only because they have

[1:42:53] to do maintenance about the ash

[1:42:54] trees. It's their responsibility

[1:42:55] to take that out. That would be

[1:42:57] my hypothesis, I don't know if

[1:42:58] we've received information for

[1:42:59] the airport of Montréal.

[1:43:00] Usually, the fire, the people

[1:43:02] have directly along Ponner

[1:43:03] Woods, when work is being done,

[1:43:05] so perhaps they know. But there

[1:43:07] are no plans to develop Ponner

[1:43:09] Woods that haven't all been

[1:43:10] discussed at Council.

[1:43:12] >> It has seemed to come up in

[1:43:13] the last council meeting.

[1:43:15] >> I think, honestly, I think it

[1:43:16] was an error. Unless Councillor

[1:43:18] Stork, you might, that I don't

[1:43:19] think he meant. That really, it

[1:43:20] would be very much a surprise.

[1:43:22] >> I think my reference was

[1:43:24] probably to green space is being

[1:43:25] protected or green spaces that

[1:43:27] are available. At no point I

[1:43:30] 100% -- Thorstad-Cullen that

[1:43:33] there's nothing in the wood

[1:43:34] works there that is --

[1:43:35] >> Okay, it just hit me when I

[1:43:37] heard it and then I started to

[1:43:38] go, then I saw the road coming

[1:43:39] in, so, I was concerned. Thank

[1:43:42] you.

[1:43:43] >> Okay, do we have time for one

[1:43:45] more?

[1:43:46] >> Time is up.

[1:43:47] >> Time is up? Okay. Okay, yeah,

[1:43:53] but there is a couple others.

[1:43:54] >> With all due respect, an

[1:43:55] awful lot of talk was

[1:43:56] [Inaudible]

[1:43:58] Number of us are here, other

[1:44:00] topics that are important to us.

[1:44:02] I think that time should be

[1:44:04] continued for those

[1:44:05] [Inaudible]

[1:44:09] Talk about their important

[1:44:10] topic, others have important

[1:44:12] topics. I am

[1:44:13] [Inaudible]

[1:44:15] Would very much appreciate

[1:44:16] [Inaudible]

[1:44:18] >> Well, yes, yes. Okay, would

[1:44:24] we everybody who's before this

[1:44:26] gentleman concede to allowing

[1:44:28] one more and allowing this

[1:44:29] gentlemen? No, that's not going

[1:44:31] to happen. We have a 90 minute

[1:44:33] time limit and this has been the

[1:44:35] case from the beginning, and

[1:44:36] those who get here early get on

[1:44:38] the list first. So, --

[1:44:41] >> So I can bring my friends

[1:44:42] next time?

[1:44:43] [Inaudible]

[1:44:44] >> With all due respect, sir,

[1:44:45] they got here first. People got

[1:44:49] on the list and we are going in

[1:44:50] the order of the names on the

[1:44:51] list. I'm asking if the

[1:44:54] concession can be made for one

[1:44:55] more, if you would like to be

[1:44:56] you. But if not, sorry, we are

[1:44:58] not going to do the whole room.

[1:45:00] So, I am trying to give the

[1:45:02] concession of kindness here. I

[1:45:04] don't know, there are other

[1:45:05] people ahead of this gentlemen.

[1:45:07] So, I want to be fair to the

[1:45:09] people who got here before you,

[1:45:11] to ask a question. What is your

[1:45:17] name, sir?

[1:45:18] [Inaudible]

[1:45:19] >> You are the last. There is

[1:45:20] one, two, three, three more

[1:45:21] before, then two more. After

[1:45:23] that. So, there were three

[1:45:24] before you, Mr. Stephens. So,

[1:45:26] I've got to say, if it's okay

[1:45:27] with the rest of the room, well

[1:45:29] I will out Mr. Stephens?

[1:45:31] [Inaudible]

[1:45:46] >> Curt is a double edged sword,

[1:45:48] sir. Curd is a double edged

[1:45:51] sword. I might point out that we

[1:45:53] give a lot longer question

[1:45:54] period than most other

[1:45:55] municipalities. We are extremely

[1:45:57] generous and you guys get more

[1:45:58] than your share. So, I don't

[1:46:00] think, I think you're being a

[1:46:02] little harsh on this one. Would

[1:46:04] people like Mr. Stephens, one

[1:46:07] more? Because Council has agreed

[1:46:09] to one more? But the people,

[1:46:11] will anybody be offended?

[1:46:13] Because there are names before

[1:46:14] him. Okay, go ahead, Mr.

[1:46:16] Stephens. Well, I am.

[1:46:19] [Inaudible]

[1:46:24] >> She's fine. Ma'am, we, this

[1:46:25] is an act of generosity and I

[1:46:27] thank you for your graciousness.

[1:46:29] Mr. Stephens is a little more

[1:46:31] concerned than the rest of you,

[1:46:34] so I thought maybe -- I

[1:46:35] apologize.

[1:46:38] >> I'm just saying

[1:46:39] [Inaudible]

[1:46:43] >> Okay, so we won't do it then.

[1:46:46] [Inaudible]

[1:46:49] >> Look, are we doing it or not?

[1:46:51] It's up to you guys. It's an act

[1:46:52] of generosity. Okay, go ahead,

[1:46:54] sir.

[1:46:55] >> Thank you, thank you very

[1:46:56] much and I express my thanks to

[1:46:58] those who conceded. It's their

[1:47:00] place to let me stand at the

[1:47:01] microphone right now. I will do

[1:47:02] my best to be as concise as

[1:47:04] possible. My name is Noah

[1:47:06] Stevens, I love it 400 13

[1:47:09] Hermitage. I have two concerns

[1:47:10] which I will express with the

[1:47:12] brevity of which I'm capable of.

[1:47:13] For the first concern is garbage

[1:47:15] collection. I would like to ask

[1:47:17] Council if it would consider

[1:47:19] tonight or in the near future

[1:47:21] debating, at some point,

[1:47:25] creating reverting, actually, to

[1:47:27] what was past practice in years

[1:47:29] gone by, which is for

[1:47:30] Pointe-Claire, the city, to have

[1:47:32] its own garbage collection

[1:47:33] service. There are two reasons

[1:47:36] for proposing this. One is the

[1:47:38] current garbage collection

[1:47:39] service, which I've been given

[1:47:40] to understand is the only one

[1:47:42] that has tendered a contract, a,

[1:47:45] does not do its job. I'm not

[1:47:48] saying it's not capable of doing

[1:47:49] its job, I'm saying it does not.

[1:47:51] Of the last three collections,

[1:47:52] it has left garbage at the

[1:47:54] bottom of my garbage can twice.

[1:47:56] I've had to ask Pointe-Claire

[1:47:59] Public Works to have the service

[1:48:00] come back and empty my garbage

[1:48:01] can, so they are ineffective.

[1:48:03] The second is their disregard

[1:48:04] for personal property. I don't

[1:48:06] know how many people here in the

[1:48:07] room have experience it, but I

[1:48:08] know that many Pointe-Claire

[1:48:09] residents have. They are known

[1:48:12] for breaking garbage cans,

[1:48:13] they've broken quite a number of

[1:48:14] mine over the past few years.

[1:48:15] That's my first point. And as I

[1:48:17] promised with brevity, I will

[1:48:18] move on to the second one, which

[1:48:21] is, on a different topic. The

[1:48:23] number of streets in

[1:48:24] Pointe-Claire that are blocked

[1:48:26] by tree services, tradesmen of

[1:48:30] various types, my question to

[1:48:31] Council is, is their

[1:48:33] recommendation limiting to what

[1:48:37] degree a truck in part on

[1:48:39] lakeshore road take up a half or

[1:48:41] more than half of the lane, when

[1:48:43] there's services to countries

[1:48:45] down or to gardening, when there

[1:48:48] is a side street that they could

[1:48:49] park on, there is a parking lot

[1:48:51] nearby they can park on, there

[1:48:52] is the driveway of the customer

[1:48:54] they could park in, which is

[1:48:56] often free. And if there are

[1:48:59] rules regarding this, why are

[1:49:00] they not enforced? And if there

[1:49:02] are not rules regarding this, I

[1:49:03] would ask Council to consider

[1:49:05] the possibility of adopting

[1:49:06] some. So that we do not

[1:49:10] experience situations like the

[1:49:11] ones I experienced often, which

[1:49:12] is on lakeshore road in the

[1:49:13] morning, I have to swerve around

[1:49:15] trucks. My own house, my own

[1:49:17] driveway, was blocked three days

[1:49:19] ago by a tree service, which

[1:49:21] simply block my driveway because

[1:49:22] they wanted to, and I had to ask

[1:49:24] them to move. I can give more

[1:49:25] examples, but I think you get

[1:49:26] the picture. Thank you very much

[1:49:28] for listening and thanks again.

[1:49:29] >> Okay, your points are taken

[1:49:32] on all counts. Garbage, well,

[1:49:36] investing in our own garbage

[1:49:39] service would be, far more

[1:49:41] costly than taxpayer would wish.

[1:49:44] You would have to get the

[1:49:45] vehicles, staff, et cetera. It

[1:49:48] goes to tender and it goes to

[1:49:50] the certain better, and you are

[1:49:51] right, I mean, if the service is

[1:49:53] not delivered adequately

[1:49:54] overtime, you go to tender again

[1:49:56] or you change. So, your point is

[1:49:59] well taken on that one. I think

[1:50:01] it's too costly to do it

[1:50:02] ourselves, to be honest with

[1:50:03] you, but, you know, I have not

[1:50:04] done the math. I'm pretty sure

[1:50:05] that's the answer on that one.

[1:50:07] As for damaging, yes, that

[1:50:09] should be followed up. If it's

[1:50:13] resulting in too much damage, we

[1:50:14] have to keep track of that and

[1:50:15] make sure that it stops

[1:50:16] happening, for sure. As for, I'm

[1:50:20] very intrigued. I often wonder

[1:50:22] about contractors parking on the

[1:50:24] roads. I think for trees, it's

[1:50:26] understandable. I think they may

[1:50:27] need equipment. But if it's

[1:50:29] being abused, absolutely. And it

[1:50:30] is a tough one to catch or

[1:50:33] regulate. All we can do is be

[1:50:37] perseverance and if you see one,

[1:50:40] you can phone it in or complain,

[1:50:42] if you feel someone's abusing.

[1:50:45] >> I have in the past.

[1:50:46] [Inaudible]

[1:50:48] Told that either a police

[1:50:52] officer -- would have to catch

[1:50:53] them in the act.

[1:50:55] [Inaudible]

[1:50:59] By Hermitage Park, there was a

[1:51:01] construction project going

[1:51:02] [Inaudible]

[1:51:04] They routinely park in the

[1:51:05] street.

[1:51:06] [Inaudible]

[1:51:08] Then they drive outside the

[1:51:09] cones, they leave -- in the

[1:51:11] street outside the home, hazard

[1:51:13] for traffic and

[1:51:14] [Inaudible]

[1:51:16] So, if there are rules, they are

[1:51:18] being disrespected.

[1:51:19] >> Well, thanks for pointing

[1:51:20] that out. That is duly noted.

[1:51:22] Thank you very much. Okay,

[1:51:31] peut-on continuer? Madame

[1:51:32] Thibault?

[1:51:36] - 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt

[1:51:37] d'un projet de Règlement

[1:51:38] modifiant le règlement PC-2918

[1:51:39] relatif à la lutte contre la

[1:51:40] propagation de l'agrile du frêne

[1:51:41] sur le territoire de la Ville de

[1:51:42] PointeClaire.

[1:51:46] les modifications visent à

[1:51:48] corriger

[1:51:49] (inaudible)

[1:51:50] , apporter des clarifications

[1:51:51] afin d'éviter toute ambiguïté

[1:51:52] dans l'interprétation du

[1:51:54] règlement, dans les délais

[1:51:55] applicables, par suite de

[1:51:57] l'émission d'un avis par la

[1:51:58] Ville, suite à une autorisation

[1:52:00] d'abattage reçu par les

[1:52:01] citoyens, une amende dans le cas

[1:52:02] de récidive qui a été ajouté.

[1:52:05] >> Do we give this notice a

[1:52:06] motion?

[1:52:08] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:52:12] >> 5.2, notice of motion and

[1:52:13] filing of a draft bylaw amending

[1:52:15] zoning bylaw P C 27.75 of the

[1:52:17] city of Pointe-Claire to ensure

[1:52:19] concordance with the provisions

[1:52:20] of the provincial bylaw on

[1:52:22] residential pool safety. The

[1:52:24] amendment to zoning bylaw is

[1:52:25] required to update certain

[1:52:26] definitions, primarily

[1:52:27] associated with swimming pools

[1:52:29] and definitions concerning water

[1:52:30] gardens and rain gardens, as

[1:52:32] well as to modify and adapt

[1:52:34] section 5.10, in order to

[1:52:35] implement the provisions of the

[1:52:40] provincial bylaw on residential

[1:52:41] swimming pools.

[1:52:42] >> Who gives this notice a

[1:52:43] motion?

[1:52:44] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:52:49] 5.3 Adoption d'un premier projet

[1:52:50] de Règlement modifiant le

[1:52:51] règlement de zonage numéro

[1:52:52] PC2775 de la Ville de

[1:52:53] Pointe-Claire afin d'assurer une

[1:52:54] concordance aux dispositions du

[1:52:56] règlement provincial sur la

[1:52:57] sécurité des piscines

[1:53:02] résidentielles.

[1:53:08] >>

[1:53:09] 5.4 Adoption of a By-Law

[1:53:10] constituting the Stewart Hall

[1:53:11] Advisory Board. Since the --

[1:53:12] significant changes updating the

[1:53:13] terminology, the

[1:53:14] responsibilities, and the

[1:53:15] mandate of the committee, the

[1:53:16] opponent of the members, as well

[1:53:17] as the number of meetings.

[1:53:18] >> For 5.3 and 5.4, do I have a

[1:53:20] mover?

[1:53:21] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:53:23] >> And seconder?

[1:53:24] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[1:53:25] >> All in favour?

[1:53:29] >> Mister Mayor, I'm sorry. I'm

[1:53:31] a little slow on the uptick.

[1:53:32] Might I suggest that everyone

[1:53:34] who didn't get to ask the

[1:53:37] question that the simply send by

[1:53:38] email tomorrow? So that they can

[1:53:39] still submit a question.

[1:53:41] >> We have, that has been ruled

[1:53:44] not admissible.

[1:53:45] >> No, but they can always email

[1:53:47] their questions to councillors

[1:53:48] or to the City.

[1:53:49] >> Sure. If you are concerned,

[1:53:52] you can always email us. You

[1:53:55] guys, I think you are aware of

[1:53:56] that.

[1:54:11] >> 6. Conseil municipal. 6.1

[1:54:13] Accorder un soutien financier

[1:54:14] pour un montant total de 600$ à

[1:54:15] l'école primaire St. John Fisher

[1:54:18] Sr. le comité demande un

[1:54:20] financement pour les activités

[1:54:22] reliées à la remise des diplômes

[1:54:25] de sixième année, tel que la

[1:54:28] baume définissant, la réception,

[1:54:29] le bal et la danse. 6.2 Grant a

[1:54:30] financial support

[1:54:31] For a total amount of $ 105 to

[1:54:32] The Royal Canadian Legion of

[1:54:33] PointeClaire. This financial

[1:54:36] support is for the purchase of a

[1:54:39] flower reap for the annual

[1:54:40] commemorative ceremony on June

[1:54:41] 11th. 6.3 Accorder un soutien

[1:54:42] financier pour un montant total

[1:54:45] de 500$ au Festival de Blues de

[1:54:46] l'Ouest de l'Île. un montant 6.4

[1:54:53] Grant a financial support

[1:54:54] correspond qui for a total

[1:54:55] amount of à l'achat de $ 5,000

[1:54:56] to the West Island trois billets

[1:54:57] pour les membres du conseil.

[1:54:58] Blues Festival. The West Island

[1:55:01] blues festival association

[1:55:03] organizes

[1:55:04] A show of musical groups,

[1:55:05] including a day in Pointe-Claire

[1:55:06] in September and proceeds from

[1:55:07] ticket sales go to nonprofit

[1:55:08] organizations.

[1:55:13] - 6.5 Autoriser la participation

[1:55:14] de quatre

[1:55:15] (4)

[1:55:16] membres du conseil et le maire

[1:55:17] au 12e édition du tournoi de

[1:55:18] golf organisé par les Hôpitaux

[1:55:19] Shriners pour enfants devant se

[1:55:20] tenir le 7 août 2023 au Club de

[1:55:21] golf Elm Ridge. la Ville procède

[1:55:25] à l'achat d'un quatuor de golf

[1:55:27] de

[1:55:28] (---)

[1:55:29] , décoiffée rend la

[1:55:30] participation au tournoi.

[1:55:31] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:55:37] - Je propose d'accorder les and

[1:55:39] montants noter, seconder?

[1:55:40] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[1:55:41] Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:55:42] >> All in favour?

[1:55:46] >> 7.1 File the minutes of the

[1:55:48] March 28, 2023, meeting of the

[1:55:49] Youth Advisory Board. 7.2

[1:55:54] Déposer le procès-verbal de la

[1:55:55] réunion du 26 avril 2023 du

[1:55:56] Comité consultatif jeunesse. 7.3

[1:55:57] File the minutes of the April

[1:55:58] 26, 2023, meeting of the Stewart

[1:56:00] Hall Advisory Board. 7.3 Déposer

[1:56:03] le procès-verbal de la réunion

[1:56:04] du 26 avril 2023 du Comité

[1:56:05] consultatif Stewart Hall. 7.4

[1:56:06] Déposer le procès-verbal de la

[1:56:07] réunion du 18 mai 2023 du Comité

[1:56:08] Consultatif de la Bibliothèque

[1:56:09] de Pointe-Claire. 7.5 Appoint

[1:56:10] members to the 7.5 Nommer des

[1:56:11] membres au sein du Comité d'art

[1:56:12] public de Pointe-Claire.

[1:56:13] Pointe-Claire Public Art

[1:56:14] Committee. It is recommended

[1:56:17] that two new members be

[1:56:18] appointed to the Pointe-Claire

[1:56:21] Public Art committee, being Mrs.

[1:56:22] Valérie mucky, Pointe-Claire

[1:56:23] artists, and Geneviève slow, a

[1:56:26] West Island artist for turned

[1:56:27] violent until December 21st,

[1:56:28] 2024. 7.6 Nommer un membre du

[1:56:31] conseil au sein du Comité de

[1:56:36] démolition. afin de combler un

[1:56:37] siège vacant sur le Comité de

[1:56:38] and 7.7 Appoint a Council member

[1:56:39] démolition, pour to the

[1:56:40] Pointe-Claire siéger sur ce

[1:56:41] comité.

[1:56:42] Aquatic Club. It is proposed to

[1:56:43] appoint Councillor Eric Stork

[1:56:44] does it on the Pointe-Claire

[1:56:46] aquatic Club committee.

[1:56:47] >> For 7.5 to 7.7, do I have a

[1:56:49] mover?

[1:56:51] >> Terrace in fourth, district

[1:56:52] four. I move to approve the

[1:56:54] appointment of various members

[1:56:55] to various committees.

[1:56:57] >> And seconder?

[1:56:59] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[1:57:00] >> All in favour?

[1:57:12] - 10. Finances et trésorerie.

[1:57:14] 10.1 Déposer la liste des

[1:57:15] amendements budgétaires et le

[1:57:16] registre des chèques pour la

[1:57:17] période du 20 avril au 24 mai

[1:57:18] 2023. 10.2 Award a contract for

[1:57:19] the acquisition of office

[1:57:20] Supplies for the period of

[1:57:21] August 1, 2023, to July 31,

[1:57:22] 2024, to NOVEXCO INC., For a

[1:57:27] total amount of $ 293,238.59,

[1:57:29] taxes included, with three

[1:57:32] periods in option. It involves

[1:57:38] the supply and delivery of

[1:57:39] office applies and printing

[1:57:40] paper to meet the needs of the

[1:57:42] cities various departments.

[1:57:47] - 11. Affaires juridiques et

[1:57:48] greffe. 11.1 Dispense de

[1:57:49] souscription au fonds

[1:57:50] d'assurance responsabilité

[1:57:51] professionnelle du Barreau du

[1:57:53] Québec. cette résolution permet

[1:57:55] de déclarer qu'aux fins du

[1:57:56] règlement sur l'assurance de la

[1:57:58] responsabilité professionnelle

[1:57:59] de la part du Québec, la Ville

[1:58:00] de Pointe-Claire se porte

[1:58:02] garante et répond financièrement

[1:58:03] les conséquences de toute erreur

[1:58:05] aux missions des deux avocats

[1:58:06] ontariens, Maître Caroline

[1:58:08] Thibault, Maître

[1:58:09] (---)

[1:58:10] , dans l'exercice de leurs

[1:58:11] fonctions, en conséquence de la

[1:58:12] ville qui est dispensée de payer

[1:58:14] les sommes ni liés à la

[1:58:16] souscription d'assurance. Do I

[1:58:19] have a mover?

[1:58:20] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[1:58:21] District three.

[1:58:22] >> Seconder?

[1:58:23] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:58:24] >> All in favour?

[1:58:28] >> 12.1 File the list of

[1:58:29] delegated staff changes for the

[1:58:30] month of June 2023.

[1:58:35] - 12.2 Approuver la liste des

[1:58:36] changements au Personnel par

[1:58:37] décisions non déléguées au 6

[1:58:38] juin 2023.

[1:58:41] >> 12.3, to confirm a new

[1:58:43] mandate within the framework of

[1:58:45] the regrouping of -- to proceed

[1:58:48] with a call for tenders to

[1:58:51] proceed with -- a consultant

[1:58:53] regarding the collective group

[1:58:55] insurance for municipal

[1:58:56] employees. This program provides

[1:58:58] access to the lowest

[1:59:00] administrative costs, the most

[1:59:02] advantageous insurance coverage,

[1:59:03] better control of this budget

[1:59:05] item and an insurance portfolio

[1:59:06] tailored to the needs and

[1:59:08] financial capabilities to the

[1:59:10] City of Pointe-Claire.

[1:59:11] >> For 12.2 to 12.3, do I have a

[1:59:17] mover??

[1:59:18] >> Well Eric Stork, district

[1:59:20] seven.

[1:59:21] >> Tara Stainforth, the district

[1:59:22] four.

[1:59:23] 14.1 Approuver une entente à

[1:59:24] intervenir avec ARPE Québec

[1:59:25] (L'Association pour le

[1:59:26] recyclage des produits

[1:59:27] électroniques du Québec)

[1:59:28] concernant les collectes et

[1:59:29] événements spéciaux. cet

[1:59:33] organisme à but non créatifs

[1:59:34] piloté par l'industrie

[1:59:35] coordonnée programmes de

[1:59:37] recyclage réglementés au Canada

[1:59:38] afin que les produits

[1:59:39] électroniques en fin de vie

[1:59:40] utile soient traitées de façon

[1:59:43] sécuritaire sur et écologiques.

[1:59:45] Elle recueille les produits

[1:59:47] électroniques dans des

[1:59:48] écocentres, les commerces de

[1:59:49] détail, les sites de collecte

[1:59:51] spécial.

[1:59:53] >> 14.2, to approve an agreement

[1:59:57] -- regarding the renunciation of

[1:59:59] prescription, it is in the

[2:00:03] interest of -- considering all

[2:00:04] sums that would be due between

[2:00:06] them in connection with the

[2:00:07] agreements for sharing of

[2:00:10] responsibilities -- on the three

[2:00:12] stations covering the period of

[2:00:14] January 1st, 2019, to May --

[2:00:15] 2023.

[2:00:53] >> -- do I have a mover?

[2:00:57] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:00:59] district three --

[2:01:00] >> -- district, two.

[2:01:04] >> -- preparation and execution

[2:01:07] of various -- upon requests to

[2:01:14] MBA MDA -- the purpose of this

[2:01:18] file is to award a contract for

[2:01:21] -- of various projects, in

[2:01:25] functional reservation and asset

[2:01:27] maintenance project a crown

[2:01:28] request.

[2:01:44] 15.2 Approve a change order to

[2:01:45] the contract entered in two with

[2:01:51] -- four masonry repair work at

[2:01:52] the -- Cedar park chalets for an

[2:01:54] amount of $ 9,990.15, taxes

[2:01:55] included.

[2:02:01] >> Do I have a mover?

[2:02:09] >> Tara Stainforth, district 4.

[2:02:10] >> -- two district 6.

[2:02:11] >> All in favour?

[2:02:49] >> 16.2, to approve a change

[2:02:50] order to the contract entered in

[2:02:55] two with -- construction -- for

[2:02:56] the construction of an

[2:02:57] accessible sanitary building at

[2:02:58] Augusta Park, for an amount of $

[2:02:59] 10,750.16, taxes included. At

[2:03:00] the cities request, the

[2:03:02] contractor supplied and

[2:03:03] installed an automatic door

[2:03:05] opener to -- reduced mobility.

[2:03:40] 16.4 Approve a change order to

[2:03:41] the contract entered into with

[2:03:43] Réhabilitation Du O Inc., For

[2:03:44] the construction and development

[2:03:45] of a cycle path between Alston

[2:03:46] and Mason avenues, for an amount

[2:03:50] of $ 11,267.55, taxes included.

[2:03:56] The installation of a second --

[2:03:57] to close the trail. To vehicles

[2:04:03] using the trail illegally --

[2:04:04] >> For 16.1 to 16.4, do I have a

[2:04:10] mover?

[2:04:11] >> Eric Stork, district 7?

[2:04:12] >> And seconder?

[2:04:13] >> Brent Cowan, district 8 --

[2:05:17] >> For 16.5, do I have a mover?

[2:05:24] >> Cynthia Homan, district 5?

[2:05:28] >> A seconder?

[2:05:29] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:05:30] district 3?

[2:05:31] >> All in favour --

[2:05:32] >> Mr. Mayor, I would like to

[2:05:34] speak to this matter.

[2:05:36] >> --

[2:05:37] >> -- a lot has happened. We

[2:05:38] have seen a citizens movement

[2:05:40] culminated in over 300

[2:05:41] signatures, the vast majority

[2:05:42] from north of you

[2:05:47] Shriners Northview the district

[2:05:52] seven -- just without the

[2:05:56] outfield -- I say, again, the

[2:05:58] neighbours are for baseball

[2:06:00] league play. I repeat, this is

[2:06:01] not a case of NIMBYism -- simply

[2:06:06] asking that they be heard and

[2:06:07] their inputs carefully weighed.

[2:06:08] We made the initial decision, I

[2:06:11] believe, without considering the

[2:06:12] special impact on the

[2:06:13] neighbourhood. Luckily, we now

[2:06:15] have the opportunity to change

[2:06:17] the decision. This is not about

[2:06:18] baseball versus other

[2:06:19] activities. This is not about

[2:06:21] local citizens versus the rest

[2:06:22] of the city. It is about

[2:06:24] optimizing use and enjoyment of

[2:06:26] our remaining green spaces. In

[2:06:27] doing so, we must not allow one

[2:06:30] usage to dominate another. We

[2:06:31] are, or should be, about

[2:06:33] compromise. The proposal to

[2:06:35] build a fence now, and then

[2:06:37] review after one year makes no

[2:06:38] sense. If we proceed, to spend

[2:06:43] over $100,000, and then make a

[2:06:48] potential -- offence later --

[2:06:49] this would be a clear waste of

[2:06:51] taxpayers money. Much better to

[2:06:53] -- empower our DG to --

[2:06:56] substituting a batting cage for

[2:06:57] offence, among other options. In

[2:07:00] summation, the fence is not

[2:07:02] required of Baseball Québec four

[2:07:05] league play. There is no

[2:07:06] evidence given that removing the

[2:07:07] fence option creates any

[2:07:09] additional risk of players or

[2:07:10] any increased insurance risk.

[2:07:12] And, as proven by this change

[2:07:14] order, negotiate modifications

[2:07:15] to the contract are feasible,

[2:07:17] whereas the fence would

[2:07:19] negatively impact the enjoyment

[2:07:20] of the much loved open green

[2:07:21] space at Northview park.

[2:07:25] Therefore, accepting a provision

[2:07:27] in this resolution under

[2:07:28] discussion that removes the

[2:07:30] eight foot fence and -- contract

[2:07:32] for a value of the fence, I move

[2:07:34] the following amendment. The --

[2:07:39] provision that adds back the

[2:07:40] eight foot high fence and -- an

[2:07:43] alternative to the fence, such

[2:07:44] as a batting cage, or another

[2:07:49] substitute.

[2:07:50] [Applause]

[2:07:53] >> So, we have a mover. Do I

[2:07:57] have a seconder?

[2:07:58] >> -- mover and a seconder for

[2:07:59] this proposition -- I sumo that

[2:08:03] Mr. Eric Stork, you move your

[2:08:06] proposition?

[2:08:07] >> --

[2:08:08] >> --

[2:08:10] >> Councillor Brent Cowan just

[2:08:11] seconded --

[2:08:13] >> Mr. Mayor, I would like -- to

[2:08:15] the comment in the -- my

[2:08:19] perception that the reason why

[2:08:20] this is a -- baseball field is

[2:08:22] that it has always been a --

[2:08:25] baseball field and that set in

[2:08:28] motion with the Public

[2:08:30] municipality and -- you just

[2:08:32] keep making it better for the --

[2:08:36] and you neglect to be -- and as

[2:08:38] I had said, in April or May, I

[2:08:42] think that was a mistake that we

[2:08:43] did not -- and the second thing

[2:08:48] is the and this does create a

[2:08:51] transformational change in the

[2:08:53] neighbourhood -- and when, in

[2:08:56] many other areas of municipal

[2:08:59] action, like when you do zoning

[2:09:01] bylaws, et cetera, when you are

[2:09:04] proposing a transformational

[2:09:05] change to a zoning bylaw or a

[2:09:06] major -- zoning, bylaw, you

[2:09:11] always make -- like you heard

[2:09:12] tonight -- or something like

[2:09:13] that so the public becomes

[2:09:14] aware, and that allows the

[2:09:16] public, then, to organize if

[2:09:18] they want to. You were denied

[2:09:19] that option because we did not

[2:09:21] see it. We just voted on it

[2:09:23] three months ago. And so, I log

[2:09:30] laud you four -- you are not

[2:09:33] allowed, actually, to bring in a

[2:09:35] sign and show it at a public

[2:09:36] meeting. But, for all that, I'm

[2:09:38] proud to second this motion.

[2:09:40] [Applause]

[2:09:45] >> So, the motion is?

[2:09:48] >> We need to vote on the prep

[2:09:53] proposition made by -- so, a

[2:09:55] vote --

[2:09:56] >> So, all in favour?

[2:09:57] >> Against?

[2:10:04] >> -- sorry, I just want to make

[2:10:06] sure --

[2:10:07] >> Yeah, that's what I was

[2:10:08] asking. I agree.

[2:10:13] Juste pour être certaine, je

[2:10:16] vais être clair pour les gens

[2:10:18] dans la salle et à la maison,

[2:10:19] pour vous-même et moi-même. La

[2:10:24] proposition d' Amendement, en

[2:10:25] autres mots...

[2:10:26] >> In other words, Mr. monsieur

[2:10:28] Eric Stork Starke propose

[2:10:29] proposed --

[2:10:30] Dans plus de retirer l'item

[2:10:32] portant sur le filet en arrière

[2:10:34] champ, vous proposez de retirer

[2:10:36] également la clôture de 8 pieds.

[2:10:39] En d'autres mots, c'est ce que

[2:10:40] vous proposez?

[2:10:41] - Exactement.

[2:10:42] - Parfait.

[2:10:43] >> Who is in favour of that?

[2:10:44] >> Who is in favour of that?

[2:10:47] That was against?

[2:10:54] >> Okay.

[2:10:55] >> Okay.

[2:10:57] >> Thank you. Now we go back to

[2:10:58] the main proposition --

[2:11:03] >>

[2:11:04] >> Now we need a mover -- a vote

[2:11:05] on the main preposition?

[2:11:07] >> So, all of those in favour of

[2:11:13] 16.6 -- all against?

[2:11:21] >> Voting --

[2:11:22] >> You are voting on the main

[2:11:25] proposition without the

[2:11:27] amendment proposed by Mr. Stork

[2:11:30] because --

[2:11:31] >> Now, we are voting on --

[2:11:34] >> Just to remove the net. Okay?

[2:11:37] Do you want to re-vote now?

[2:11:41] >> I think not.

[2:11:44] >> I just want to make sure

[2:11:47] everybody on the room --

[2:11:53] >> Clarity is always a good

[2:11:54] idea. 16.6?

[2:12:01] >> -- contract for the

[2:12:04] structural rehabilitation

[2:12:05] between two there

[2:12:09] Tudor avenue -- taxes included.

[2:12:18] 16.7 Rejeter toute soumission

[2:12:19] reçue dans le cadre de l'appel

[2:12:20] d'offres concernant le

[2:12:21] remplacement des coffrets

[2:12:22] d'éclairage sur le boulevard

[2:12:23] Saint-Jean puisque le prix est

[2:12:24] trop élevé par rapport à notre

[2:12:27] estimation. For you 16.6 and

[2:12:30] 16.7, do I have a mover?

[2:12:32] >> -- district five.

[2:12:35] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:12:36] district 3.

[2:12:37] >> All in favour? --

[2:12:43] >> The persons -- present

[2:12:46] Council on the subjects, here

[2:12:47] under from items 17.1 -- 17

[2:12:50] point, one consider a minor

[2:12:52] exemption request concerning the

[2:12:53] property situated at 139

[2:12:54] Windmill Avenue. With a front

[2:12:57] setback of -- metres rather than

[2:12:59] the minimum required of 7.5

[2:13:00] metres.

[2:13:01] 17.2 Considérer une demande de

[2:13:05] dérogation mineure concernant la

[2:13:06] propriété sise au 5501,

[2:13:09] Autoroute Transcanadienne.

[2:13:12] Joaquin être six réservoirs

[2:13:14] d'entreposage plutôt que dans la

[2:13:16] marche arrière qui, deux

[2:13:17] appareils mécaniques dans la

[2:13:19] marche droite plutôt que de

[2:13:21] l'{city_council} arrière, tel

[2:13:22] que requis.

[2:13:23] >> 17.3 Consider a conditional

[2:13:24] use request concerning the

[2:13:25] property situated at 35 Cartier

[2:13:26] Avenue. Which is to allow a

[2:13:30] class D one commercial use being

[2:13:32] -- on the existing commercial

[2:13:33] terraces.

[2:13:34] 17.4 Considérer les plans

[2:13:35] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:13:36] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:13:37] propriété sise au 12, avenue

[2:13:42] Salisbury. pour Daytona ovation

[2:13:43] et une extension extérieure.

[2:13:45] 17.5 Amend Resolution

[2:13:46] 2021-022 in order to modify the

[2:13:49] 6 th condition applicable to the

[2:13:50] conditional use permitted at 17

[2:13:51] Place de la Triade -- the

[2:13:57] modification refers to the

[2:13:59] requirement for continuous green

[2:14:00] while on the specifications of

[2:14:01] the types of plants and

[2:14:02] landscaping required.

[2:14:03] 17.6 Modifier la résolution

[2:14:04] 2022-544 afin de modifier les

[2:14:07] délais autorisés pour la

[2:14:08] réalisation des travaux relatifs

[2:14:09] à l'aménagement de l'entrée

[2:14:13] charretière au 118, avenue

[2:14:17] Broadview. l'entrepreneur

[2:14:18] recommande qu'une période

[2:14:19] suffisante de compaction des

[2:14:20] sols soient autorisée afin de

[2:14:21] procéder à l'installation finale

[2:14:23] de revêtement de sol. 17.7 Amend

[2:14:26] Resolution 2023-204 in order to

[2:14:27] modify the condition applicable

[2:14:28] to the minor exemption permitted

[2:14:32] at lot 2 528 020 of the Cadastre

[2:14:34] of Québec (corner Avro Avenue

[2:14:35] and De l'Aviation Road).

[2:14:39] The purpose of the amendment is

[2:14:40] a clarify the terms of the

[2:14:42] conditional condition applicable

[2:14:43] to the landscape of the lot.

[2:14:53] - The do I have 17,1 à 17,7 ans

[2:14:54] a mover?...

[2:14:58] >>

[2:14:59] You.

[2:15:00] >> -- district 2.

[2:15:01] >> All in favour?

[2:15:05] >> All against?

[2:15:06] >> Mr. Mayor, I'm in favour of

[2:15:07] each of these items except 17.4.

[2:15:21] - 18.1 Autoriser la soumission

[2:15:22] d'une demande pour le programme

[2:15:23] d'aide financière du Ministère

[2:15:24] de l'Éducation pour la gratuité

[2:15:25] de la formation des

[2:15:26] surveillants-sauveteurs et des

[2:15:27] moniteurs aquatiques 2023-2026.

[2:15:31] Il s'agit d'autoriser la

[2:15:33] signature de la demande par

[2:15:34] monsieur le maire Tim Thomas.

[2:15:35] 18.2 Approve a subsidy agreement

[2:15:36] within the framework of the

[2:15:38] Celebrate Canada Program to be

[2:15:39] entered into with His Majesty

[2:15:40] the King in

[2:15:41] Right of Canada represented by

[2:15:42] the Minister of Canadian

[2:15:43] Heritage. Since the city cannot

[2:15:48] sign an agreement directly with

[2:15:49] the Government of Canada and in

[2:15:51] order to -- government of

[2:15:52] Québec.

[2:15:54] 18.3 Autoriser un don de au

[2:15:55] Centre de services scolaire

[2:15:56] Marguerite-Bourgeoys et à

[2:15:57] l'école secondaire

[2:15:58] Pierre-Laporte d'équipements de

[2:16:01] musculation appartenant à la

[2:16:05] Ville. quatre appareils de

[2:16:06] musculation du centre sportif

[2:16:09] Oliver ont atteint leur fin de

[2:16:11] vie utile. Il est proposé de

[2:16:13] faire un don d'équipement afin

[2:16:15] que les appareils puissent

[2:16:17] continuer d'être utilisé dans un

[2:16:19] environnement d'utilisation

[2:16:20] moins fréquentes.

[2:16:24] >> -- do I have a mover.

[2:16:28] >> Do -- you district 4?

[2:16:32] >> And a seconder?

[2:16:35] >> We Eric Stork, district 7 --

[2:16:37] >> And foreclosure --

[2:16:38] >> --

[2:16:39] >> All in favour? Excuse me,

[2:16:40] it's a long night, folks. Now,

[2:16:44] closure. Foreclosure moving, do

[2:16:46] I have a mover?

[2:16:50] >> Tara Stainforth, district 4.

[2:16:51] The thanks for that.

[2:16:52] >> And seconder?

[2:16:55] >> Bruno Tremblay, district 6.

[2:16:56] >> All in favour?

[2:16:58] Thanks everyone.

[2:16:59] Merci tout le monde.

2023-06-06 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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