[0:32] Mesdames et Messieurs, bonsoir

[0:33] et bienvenue à cette séance

[0:35] ordinaire du 2 avril. Ladies and

[0:39] gentlemen, good evening and

[0:40] welcome to the April 2nd

[0:42] meeting. Avant de débuter la

[0:45] séance, j'aimerais vous parler

[0:46] de quelques activités et

[0:49] changements qui ont lieu en

[0:50] avril. Il y a toujours beaucoup

[0:56] d'effervescence, oui, à

[0:57] l'arrivée du printemps. Entre...

[1:03] entretien du printemps. Au cours

[1:04] des dernières semaines, en

[1:06] raison des températures

[1:07] clémentes, la ville a entamé ses

[1:10] opérations d'entretien pour le

[1:13] printemps. Afin de faciliter les

[1:16] opérations, la Ville demande aux

[1:18] citoyennes et aux citoyens

[1:20] d'éviter de stationner leur

[1:21] véhicule dans la rue. The City

[1:24] has begun in spring maintenance

[1:26] operations in order to

[1:27] facilitate operations, we are

[1:29] asking citizens to avoid parking

[1:31] their vehicles on the street.

[1:35] Des changements au collectes en

[1:38] 2024. Il y a des changements

[1:40] dans les collectes. Cette

[1:42] semaine, à compter du 4 avril,

[1:45] la collecte des matières

[1:48] recyclables se déroulent le

[1:50] jeudi. La collecte des matières

[1:52] organiques demeure le lundi. Le

[1:55] mercredi 10 avril aura lieu une

[1:58] collecte d'encombrant pour tout

[2:00] les secteurs. Dès le lundi 15

[2:04] avril, les collectes de feuilles

[2:06] auront lieu les lundis aux deux

[2:09] semaines pour tout le

[2:10] territoire. There are changes in

[2:12] your collections this week,

[2:14] starting April 4th. Recyclables

[2:17] will be collected on Thursdays,

[2:19] organics will continue to be

[2:21] collected on Mondays. On

[2:23] Wednesday, April ten, bulky

[2:26] items will be collected in all

[2:29] sectors. Starting Monday, April

[2:31] 15th, leaf collection will take

[2:33] place on Mondays. Every two

[2:36] weeks for the entire territory.

[2:38] Bless you if you can remember

[2:40] all of that. Inscriptions aux

[2:42] activités nautique. À compter du

[2:45] lundi 8 avril, les résidents et

[2:47] les résidentes auront la chance

[2:49] de s'inscrire aux activités

[2:52] nautique et au programme de

[2:54] compétition pour la session

[2:55] d'été 2024. Les non-résidents

[3:00] pourront s'y inscrire à partir

[3:02] du mardi 18 avril. They come

[3:07] 2024, online registration for

[3:09] day camps begins on April nine,

[3:11] for residents and on May 2nd,

[3:14] for non residents. You can

[3:16] consult the-day camp program to

[3:18] choose from recreational,

[3:20] sports, cultural, and nautical

[3:23] camps. Jour de la Terre. Encore

[3:28] une fois cette année, nous

[3:30] allons souligner le jour de la

[3:32] Terre. Dès le lundi 15 avril à

[3:35] midi, réservez votre arbre en

[3:38] ligne sur le site Web de la

[3:40] ville. Avant la réservation,

[3:43] vous pouvez bénéficier des

[3:44] conseils d'une ou d'un

[3:46] spécialiste en foresterie qui

[3:51] sera disponible pour répondre à

[3:53] vos questions le jeudi 11 avril.

[3:56] The first hundred people to

[3:57] reserve a tree can also reserve

[3:59] a free reign water barrel. It

[4:01] will be delivered at the same

[4:02] time as the tree on Saturday,

[4:04] April 27th. In the meantime, you

[4:07] can consult the list of

[4:09] available trees on the website.

[4:11] Trees are offered as part of

[4:13] earth day. Il y a une très belle

[4:18] exposition au Centre Stewart

[4:20] Hall jusqu'au 21 avril

[4:23] réunissant les travaux de trois

[4:26] artistes: Annie France Leclerc,

[4:28] (---)

[4:29] et Vicky Sabourin. The

[4:31] carefulness and the blade is a

[4:33] very interesting exposition at

[4:35] Stewart Hall. I hope you will

[4:36] have the opportunity to see it.

[4:38] It is on display until April

[4:40] 21st. Les athlètes de

[4:45] Pointe-Claire. Des athlètes de

[4:47] Pointe-Claire se sont démarqués

[4:48] aux Jeux du Québec qui se sont

[4:49] déroulées en mars en remportant

[4:51] une médaille pour leur

[4:54] délégation. Pointe-Claire

[4:56] athletes made their mark in

[4:57] March, getting a medal for their

[5:01] delegation. The Paterson and

[5:02] Richard

[5:07] Deux médailles d'or en curling.

[5:09] A gold medalists and curling,

[5:10] Maya and Victoria received Maia

[5:13] cou et Victoria Bowen, qui ont

[5:15] reçu des médailles d'argent en

[5:17] hockey féminin. Silver medals

[5:19] for women's hockey in 13 and 14

[5:21] years old category. Each

[5:23] categories. I believe on a final

[5:28] note, I just want to make a

[5:30] couple of comments on two events

[5:33] that I visited last week. Part

[5:36] of the beauty through the job of

[5:38] being mayor is that you get to

[5:40] support local organizations that

[5:43] often plug holes in our social

[5:45] safety net and services that

[5:47] otherwise would not get done and

[5:49] some of them are quite

[5:50] magnificent at it. The first one

[5:53] was liberty house. It is a

[5:57] housing program for women

[5:59] reintegrating society. They are

[6:01] a dedicated team that are

[6:02] committed to helping women in

[6:04] recovery find the rightful and

[6:05] productive place and their

[6:06] society and it was quite an

[6:08] uplifting meeting. As well, I

[6:10] attended Pointe-Claire's first

[6:13] repair café. Now, repair cafes

[6:16] are very interesting. They are

[6:17] popping up all over Europe. And

[6:19] all over the world, in fact. And

[6:22] it was conducted, the first one

[6:24] was conducted at fab zone. I

[6:26] would have liked, it was well

[6:28] intended but I would've liked

[6:29] even better attendance. Fab

[6:31] zones next repair café will be

[6:33] on Sunday April 21st just in

[6:36] time for earth day. They keep

[6:41] thousands of items out of

[6:42] landfill by bringing volunteers

[6:44] with skills and knowledge into

[6:45] the community to demonstrate how

[6:47] are broken items can be fixed.

[6:49] So, basically, you can bring

[6:52] your items and have them

[6:53] repaired, and it is happening in

[6:55] the fab zone at April 21st. Et

[6:58] je pense que c'est tout. Est-ce

[7:01] qu'on a des... I guess we will

[7:02] move to the council members

[7:04] reports, I will start it with

[7:06] district eight. With Councillor

[7:10] Cohen.

[7:11] >> I have nothing to report.

[7:18] >> I would just like to know if

[7:20] the diocese got back to us.

[7:24] >> From what I know, I do not

[7:28] think so. But I am somewhat

[7:30] disturbed by the question,

[7:32] because you are part of the

[7:33] committee that is responsible

[7:34] for that response, along with

[7:36] the director general, whereas I

[7:39] had a deal on the table, we've

[7:42] chosen an alternate route for

[7:44] who is responsible. I'm

[7:46] wondering why you are asking me

[7:48] when you are in fact, in charge

[7:50] of that.

[7:51] >> I am asking you because the

[7:53] diocese will not report to me.

[7:57] >> They are supposed to report

[7:58] to you. And you are supposed to

[8:00] solicit a response through our

[8:02] director general, I believe that

[8:03] is what the resolution

[8:06] specified. Where we not supposed

[8:07] to get a response?

[8:09] >> The committee expired on the

[8:10] 31st of December.

[8:12] >> The deal was that it was the

[8:15] director general, under year

[8:17] authorization, was supposed to

[8:18] solicit a response before the

[8:21] conclusion of this process. Yes,

[8:23] if we go back and read the

[8:25] resolution, absolutely. I find

[8:26] your question very interesting

[8:29] Councillor Cousineau. Councillor

[8:32] Bissonnette?

[8:33] >> Thank you, Mister Mayor. One

[8:34] thing is a project on Lakeview,

[8:39] lakeside, I've asked the

[8:44] administration and Madam Verdun

[8:46] has accepted that they will

[8:47] prepare a presentation for

[8:50] citizens, it is done right now

[8:51] when we have a street

[8:53] reconstruction project where

[8:55] they can take this area,... Son

[8:59] invité à venir. Il y a une

[9:00] présentation faite de tout le

[9:01] projet. Les gens peuvent poser

[9:03] des questions. Ils vont savoir

[9:05] encore s'en tenir. Because this

[9:06] particular thing is also,

[9:08] Lakeview, is not only up until

[9:10] July, it will be Lakeside and

[9:12] Lakeview, than it is lakeshore,

[9:13] starting in July. Then the STM

[9:16] bus route is going to be

[9:17] rerouted using hillside, and

[9:22] lakeside and hillside. So it is

[9:24] just to give you an idea. We

[9:26] have to do the work, it is going

[9:27] to get done, there is no doubt

[9:29] about that. However, the thing

[9:30] is, at least you know what is

[9:31] coming. You know how it goes. Of

[9:33] course, a communication was very

[9:35] good on the projects we have

[9:37] done before with the foreman on

[9:39] that. That is what it is all

[9:41] about. No surprises, and it

[9:43] happens, it is Installation de

[9:47] conduites d'aqueduc de 900

[9:49] millimètres. Remplacement des

[9:51] égouts pluvieux et sanitaire,

[9:54] Fondation est d'un fossé de

[9:55] pavage. So it is connecting with

[9:56] the water with the filtration

[9:58] point clear and the other ones.

[10:00] So it is a Montréal project,

[10:02] however, when I've asked the

[10:04] people of Pointe-Claire,... Le

[10:08] gouvernement de proximité. That

[10:09] means you are close to the

[10:10] action. And if you are, you

[10:12] should have answers, you should

[10:13] be able to give people answers

[10:15] to questions. That is why they

[10:16] are making an effort on this

[10:18] one, it is different than what

[10:20] you have had before, but getting

[10:21] the information and giving it to

[10:23] you, so you will be advised. Do

[10:25] not worry, and I think that so

[10:27] far, it has gone well. They

[10:29] moved down on Lakeview quite

[10:30] fast and this is the second

[10:32] week, I guess, third week? Third

[10:35] week, maybe, now. So I think

[10:37] that it is going very well.

[10:39] Because it is a major project.

[10:41] Anyway, thank you.

[10:42] Merci beaucoup. >> Good evening.

[10:48] I would like to make an

[10:50] announcement that the

[10:51] reconstruction of avenue

[10:53] Monterrey and mill haven will be

[10:55] happening this year. It was part

[10:56] of the capitalization program.

[11:00] We did get a subsidy from the

[11:02] government so we are very happy

[11:03] to announce it is going to go

[11:04] through. And there will be a

[11:06] meeting of citizens when we get

[11:07] a bit closer to it and explain

[11:10] to them how it will affect their

[11:11] garbage bins and this type of

[11:13] thing. I'm very happy to

[11:14] announce that we are doing that,

[11:15] thank you.

[11:16] >> Councillor Tremblay?

[11:18] >> Nothing for tonight.

[11:21] >> Good evening everyone, I just

[11:22] wanted to make mention of some

[11:24] special thankyous that I had

[11:26] meant to do in March but know

[11:27] that there is a few we will come

[11:29] together nicely. I did want to

[11:32] thank the community of wisdom

[11:35] and church who hosted an amazing

[11:37] event for black history month

[11:39] and I think it is very important

[11:41] that they are trying to reach

[11:42] out to the community and they

[11:44] are relatively new members in

[11:46] the area on Mount Pleasant. So I

[11:49] just wanted to thank them. But

[11:51] also, we have some important

[11:55] work being done by different

[11:56] groups in the community and I

[11:58] want to thank them for their

[12:00] food Ministry that continues

[12:02] ongoing as well as the women's

[12:04] center who did a lovely

[12:06] celebration for International

[12:07] Women's Day. I think these

[12:09] different organizations are key

[12:10] to our community and they are a

[12:12] special way to help bring, we

[12:15] have our fabric together. Thank

[12:17] you to all of those who are

[12:19] contributing to the Valois

[12:20] Committee and Pointe-Claire at

[12:22] large.

[12:23] >> Councillor Stork?

[12:25] >> Oui, juste une couple de

[12:27] commentaires concernant le

[12:30] secteur. For those who attended

[12:32] my successful town hall the

[12:34] documentation is available to

[12:35] switch out and provide with

[12:36] follow-up questions and

[12:39] communications as well in this

[12:40] agenda today, we will see we are

[12:42] passing the reconstruction of

[12:44] the tennis court at Northview.

[12:47] It is a good project. Many

[12:49] citizens came and asked me about

[12:51] the cost. I explained it to the

[12:53] best of my ability. It was

[12:56] completely transparent and done

[12:57] properly, secondly, a major

[13:01] reconstruction being proposed

[13:02] today, hopefully it is accepted

[13:05] by fellow council members. But

[13:07] that being said, there will be a

[13:10] communication as well, and a

[13:12] meeting with the citizens in the

[13:13] area to discuss the plans to

[13:15] review them briefly. All

[13:17] citizens in the area have been

[13:19] communicated with in terms of

[13:20] their in lines of the water and

[13:22] other major concerns that would

[13:24] exist. I think that is another

[13:26] positive project for

[13:27] Pointe-Claire and for the

[13:29] citizens. Thank you.

[13:30] >> Okay. Councillor, tennis and

[13:36] pickleball court, pickleball is

[13:38] growing in popularity as we

[13:39] speak. So it should be mentioned

[13:40] in conjunction with tennis. I

[13:42] just want to point out that I'm

[13:48] supposed to give the mayor's

[13:49] remarks after. For that, I

[13:52] apologize. But we can continue

[13:54] with the agenda in the meantime.

[13:56] - Alors 1.1 adoption de lors du

[13:57] jour avec des ajouts. >> 1.1

[14:02] adoption of the agenda with one

[14:04] addition under the section.

[14:12] 19.1, for the complete

[14:14] reconstruction of services on --

[14:19] and the amount of 1 million

[14:26] $848,709.47, taxes included. Et

[14:31] à 19. Deux, octroyer un contrat

[14:34] concernant la reconstruction de

[14:35] l'avenue Montgomery et l'avenue

[14:36] Mail Haven entre l'avenue

[14:38] (---)

[14:39] comprenant un montant total de 3

[14:40] millions quatre aurait fait 1530

[14:43] et 40 taxes incluses.

[14:44] Maintenant, on peut procéder à

[14:46] l'adoption de l'ordre du jour.

[14:47] Now you can proceed with the

[14:48] adoption of the agenda.

[14:50] >> Do I have a mover?

[14:54] >> --

[14:55] >> And seconder?

[14:56] - Bruno Tremblay, district. All

[14:57] in favour? 3.1 Approuver le

[15:04] procès-verbal de la séance

[15:05] ordinaire du 12 mars 2024.

[15:11] Do I have a mover? And seconder?

[15:16] All in favour?

[15:21] - Période de questions.

[15:24] - Pour la période de questions,

[15:26] ce soir, à la période de

[15:29] questions, vous avez été

[15:30] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous

[15:32] inscrire à la période de

[15:34] questions. L'intention de cette

[15:36] démarche est d'abord de

[15:37] permettre aux personnes de

[15:38] demeurer assise jusqu'à l'appel

[15:39] de leur nom et d'accorder la

[15:42] priorité aux résidents et

[15:45] résidentes de Pointe-Claire. 01,

[15:50] nous garderons 90 minutes pour

[15:51] la période de questions. 02 une

[15:53] personne à la fois au micro.

[15:54] Nous vous remercions d'attendre

[15:56] qu'un citoyen ait terminé de

[15:58] poser sa question et que vous

[15:59] soyez appelé à vous lever pour

[16:02] venir poser votre question. Oui

[16:05] 3, et les non-résidents présents

[16:07] pourront poser leurs questions

[16:08] par la suite si le temps n'est

[16:10] pas écouler. For question period

[16:14] tonight, you were greeted at the

[16:16] entrance to register for

[16:17] question period, the goal of

[16:19] this approach is to allow people

[16:20] to remain seated until their

[16:21] name is called and give priority

[16:23] to Pointe-Claire residents, we

[16:25] shall stick to the 90 minute

[16:26] time limit for question period,

[16:29] one person at a time at the

[16:31] microphone. Thank you for

[16:32] waiting for a citizen to finish

[16:34] asking their question and to be

[16:37] called before you get up to ask

[16:38] your. Is nonresidents present

[16:40] will be able to ask questions

[16:42] afterwards if there is still

[16:43] time. On a final note, I'm just

[16:48] looking at the list of names

[16:49] here. Some of them are legible

[16:51] and some of them are. Not so I

[16:53] apologize in advance if I

[16:54] mispronounce your name. I will

[16:55] do my very best. Ken Lyons?

[17:02] >> Good evening. There is one

[17:04] thing I don't know if you have

[17:05] noticed. We do not have a

[17:07] railroad track going through

[17:08] Pointe-Claire anymore except the

[17:10] REM. But we still have crossed

[17:12] box on Sources Road to indicate

[17:15] that there is a railroad there.

[17:17] That is off of it. There are

[17:20] still tracks but they are not

[17:21] going anywhere. So perhaps we

[17:23] can remove the

[17:29] -- and a suggestion instead of

[17:33] throwing out considerate as a

[17:37] historical artifact. We used to

[17:39] have a track way before our time

[17:40] that came off what was known at

[17:42] the time, the Grandtrunk

[17:44] railway, now CN, it went all the

[17:46] way to the lakeshore. Right

[17:48] along Cartier. It went all the

[17:50] way down there. We have trucks

[17:52] to go to the water and that is

[17:54] what I'm saying. Instead of just

[17:56] turning that item out, consider

[17:58] using it as a historical

[18:01] artifact along that weight.

[18:04] >> That is an interesting

[18:05] comment. I'm a little confused.

[18:07] We do have a train going through

[18:09] Valois.

[18:12] >> What I'm trying to say is

[18:13] yes, I understand, but there is

[18:15] no railroad track going across

[18:17] sources road and at ground level

[18:20] north of Hymus.

[18:22] >> Okay. Where the sign is.

[18:24] >> It is right on the side of

[18:25] the road. And I think on the

[18:28] other side of sources is

[18:30] probably Dorval that has that

[18:32] one. But we can take care of

[18:34] ours.

[18:35] >> It is an interesting

[18:37] suggestion. I thank you for it.

[18:38] >> The other thing, you talked

[18:40] about cleaning. With the

[18:43] construction going on Hymus

[18:44] right now on both north and

[18:46] south sides, the sidewalks are

[18:50] really not very clean, there is

[18:52] mud on them, they haven't been

[18:54] cleaned, the street has been

[18:56] swept, but the sidewalk itself

[18:58] from the construction site on

[18:59] the south side going all the way

[19:01] to St. John's, and it is the

[19:04] same thing on the north side

[19:05] going all the way to still view.

[19:07] Could it be possible that it be

[19:08] clean without delay?

[19:16] Est-ce que c'est possible? >> We

[19:19] are working. We know about the

[19:21] situation and we are working to

[19:23] make sure that it is clean. We

[19:25] do our best at cleaning it every

[19:27] day.

[19:28] >> May I ask when it will be

[19:30] cleaned?

[19:31] >> It's supposed to be every

[19:32] day. So we have an inspector

[19:34] there each day. Every day.

[19:38] >> Thank you. One final comment,

[19:41] if I may.

[19:42] >> Question or comment?

[19:44] >> Comment. I am a proud

[19:47] Canadian. I'm also a proud

[19:49] Quebecer, but Canadian first.

[19:51] And it works me to know and to

[19:53] see what we have up here, the

[19:57] flag of preeminence should be

[19:58] the Canadian flag, which it is

[20:00] not. We have the Québec flag, I

[20:02] know the Québec government wants

[20:04] us to do that, but I'm sorry,

[20:06] Québec is not a country. Québec

[20:07] is a province part of Canada.

[20:09] Please give the Canadian flag

[20:11] its preeminence.

[20:14] >> Madame Verdon?

[20:17] >> We discussed several times

[20:19] that we are a provincial

[20:22] government bylaw. So we have to

[20:24] follow, unfortunately, the

[20:26] provincial flag protocol.

[20:30] >> But they are not going to

[20:31] come around --

[20:33] >> Well --

[20:34] >> Are you sure?

[20:36] >> Yes. I had it changed.

[20:43] >> So the priority and Kirkland

[20:46] is the Canadian flag? The

[20:48] protocol is different in

[20:49] Kirkland? I'm wondering about

[20:53] the protocol of the flags. That

[20:54] is intriguing. We tend to, with

[20:57] our flags, we try to follow the

[20:59] protocol of both levels of

[21:01] government that has been on a

[21:04] practice. I will speak to

[21:09] Michelle, I call him after the

[21:11] meeting.

[21:23] The Crossing on sources, the

[21:26] track Crossing, you call it a

[21:29] buck? I remember under the

[21:35] previous administration we had

[21:37] to pay to have it prepared. But

[21:40] it was that CN or CP said that

[21:44] they are still using it.

[21:53] It is either the REM that should

[21:55] pay, we should check it out.

[22:04] Just keeping the sign -- so I

[22:08] can sell it and might antique

[22:10] store. Yep

[22:13] >> Stephanie?

[22:21] >> Good evening. Approchez-vous

[22:25] du micro. Sorry, I love my notes

[22:28] at home. I came straight from

[22:29] work. So I will try to keep it

[22:31] brief. What I would like to

[22:34] bring forth our issues I have

[22:36] discussed with councillors.

[22:42] Because they are both

[22:44] accessibility and environmental

[22:46] issues. So if you allow me to

[22:48] just give some brief back ground

[22:53] I would like to start with a

[22:55] quote from Dr. Joseph Allen, he

[22:58] is the director of healthy

[22:59] buildings at Harvard School of

[23:02] Public Health and the quote is

[23:06] something like I do not have it

[23:08] word for word but it is your

[23:13] building manager has a greater

[23:16] impact on your health and your

[23:18] medical doctor. And on this note

[23:21] I want to bring that fragrance

[23:23] is said to be the new secondhand

[23:25] smoke. And it is an

[23:29] accessibility issue but also an

[23:30] environmental issue. So, a bit

[23:32] of background, a lot of times

[23:37] fragrances or chemically

[23:39] sensitive folks are saying

[23:40] there's a fragrance and I'm not

[23:42] feeling well. There's many

[23:44] different symptoms. Someone will

[23:45] say I am not wearing perfume.

[23:47] But fragrances a term that is

[23:49] used that it can represent many

[23:53] chemicals hidden. They do not

[23:56] necessarily have to be

[23:58] disclosed. A lot of them are

[23:59] protected under proprietary

[24:02] laws. It started sometimes in

[24:04] the 70s in the States. There's

[24:07] not much transparency but they

[24:10] can regroup carcinogens, hormone

[24:15] disrupters, and the effects of

[24:17] things like asthma and

[24:24] migraines.

[24:34] But all and all they are really

[24:37] a barrier. It is not well

[24:40] understood because they are data

[24:44] -- I would like the town, if it

[24:47] is possible, to consider having

[24:49] awareness around fragrance.

[24:55] There is a whole other passage

[24:57] that says if you are chemically

[25:01] sensitive, or if you go to

[25:06] health care in B.C. or even in

[25:09] the transport, it shows clearly

[25:11] fragrance free and also because

[25:14] they are known to lower studies

[25:16] have shown that they lower

[25:20] considerably indoor air quality.

[25:23] They affect humans, on humans,

[25:26] and they are often forever

[25:28] chemicals. They do not wash away

[25:30] they accumulate in the area, and

[25:32] the soils. So I thought that it

[25:36] would be a great place for

[25:39] Pointe-Claire to show

[25:41] leadership, especially in the

[25:43] province by the spaces it has

[25:47] jurisdiction over to have a

[25:49] fragrance free policy so to go

[25:51] back a bit, fragrance is, I did

[25:53] not really explain, but you can

[25:55] find it in skincare, you can

[25:57] find it in soaps, you can find

[25:59] it in devices that are

[26:01] deceptively known as air

[26:03] fresheners. But there is nothing

[26:05] from them that actually freshens

[26:08] the air. As a matter of fact

[26:09] they increase VOCs into the air

[26:12] and they create migraines for

[26:15] some, as smoke for others,

[26:17] exotic, Segura. So, I thought,

[26:20] you know, awareness, if the town

[26:24] could have unscented soap or as

[26:29] an access, so I guess that is

[26:31] one of my big backgrounds and my

[26:35] question and I know the

[26:36] councillors, I've spoken to

[26:38] supported as well, for the

[26:41] environment, and in terms of

[26:43] accessibility. The other issue,

[26:46] I am aware that they are both

[26:51] sensitive issues. The second one

[26:52] is fireworks, as someone who my

[26:56] background is conservation, and

[26:58] marine sciences, to me I know

[27:01] the science is clear that

[27:04] fireworks, they present an issue

[27:06] for people who have PTSD, for

[27:08] young kids, but also for

[27:10] wildlife, for many non human

[27:13] companions, but they are also,

[27:15] in terms of last summer, we had

[27:17] the smog. If places like

[27:20] Tremblant, who really depend on

[27:22] tourism, and Banff, and I think

[27:26] that we can follow suit easily.

[27:29] Especially backed with the

[27:31] studies. I sent one of my fellow

[27:33] citizens, because we talk a lot

[27:35] about that, there is a recent

[27:36] article that came in the CBC

[27:38] that shows that Québec has 30%,

[27:43] I can't remember the statistics,

[27:45] something like 30% above what is

[27:48] recommended by environmental

[27:50] doctors in terms of what is

[27:52] allowed. So they are already

[27:54] passing what is allowed. So I

[27:56] would like to know if we can

[27:57] bring forth alternatives such

[28:01] as, you know, I can't find the

[28:05] words. But there is a nice

[28:06] little lights that you release,

[28:09] it could be a nice community

[28:10] thing to do or to look into

[28:12] different alternatives, so that

[28:14] is it.

[28:15] >> Okay. Good points, all of

[28:18] them. As far as fragrance, I

[28:20] hear you. I can wear a fragrance

[28:22] that gives me a headache. And I

[28:23] know what you are getting at.

[28:25] The problem, I mean, using

[28:27] products, that is a good

[28:29] suggestion. I can't answer

[28:33] offhand for staff but it sounds

[28:35] like a doable suggestion. The

[28:38] enforcement, of course, is the

[28:39] other difficulty with that one.

[28:43] But it is an issue. I agree. But

[28:47] certainly, I think we can look

[28:48] into using unscented products as

[28:51] part of our modus operandi? Yes?

[28:57] Okay, and?

[28:59] >> Last week we said we had a

[29:02] discussion eventually.

[29:04] >> Is it possibility to have

[29:07] unscented products? Are they

[29:09] available to us?

[29:10] >> We have to look at it.

[29:13] >> I work a lot in that field,

[29:16] so there is also a lot of

[29:17] greenwashing out there but

[29:19] there's some locally made in

[29:21] Québec used in Pierrefonds

[29:24] library, for example has, or

[29:27] dollars has eco-friendly

[29:30] products.

[29:31] >> I must say that on the

[29:33] fireworks issue, your point is

[29:35] well taken. And we have debated

[29:38] that extensively as a Council.

[29:40] We are aware of that but it is a

[29:41] tough call. And the problem is

[29:43] the alternatives are not as good

[29:47] yet. That is not necessarily an

[29:49] excuse. But we don't seem to be

[29:51] as good, or as expensive. It has

[29:54] bearing on the equation but I

[29:55] will show you as a Council it is

[29:57] very close on that one. And it

[29:59] has bounced back and forth. And

[30:00] we are aware of that. And there

[30:02] are a lot of us that are

[30:06] conscious of that negative

[30:08] environmental impact.

[30:09] >> Thank you.

[30:14] >> -- Is that okay, Carl?

[30:19] >> Thank you for having me. I'm

[30:21] not very good in front of

[30:22] people. I just have two things

[30:23] to go ahead and kind of ask or

[30:27] say. I'm talking close enough?

[30:29] I'm a little tall. There we go.

[30:33] Okay. Thank you. So, like the

[30:36] gentlemen went ahead and pointed

[30:37] out previously, I walk a lot. I

[30:40] like to walk. I live,

[30:43] unfortunately, right next to a

[30:45] construction site. I walk pretty

[30:47] much every day. Not usually when

[30:49] it rains, but I walk almost

[30:50] every day. And I find when I

[30:52] walk on the sidewalks, like you

[30:55] went ahead and mentioned, the

[30:58] amount of dirt when it rains it

[31:00] turns into mud, and when it's

[31:02] hot outside, it turns and to

[31:04] dust. And unfortunately, the

[31:05] amount that is actually on the

[31:06] street, I can tell you that the

[31:08] street gets clean when the

[31:10] Pointe-Claire street cleaner

[31:11] comes around, but the sidewalks,

[31:12] it is rare that they go ahead

[31:14] and get cleaned at all. I am

[31:17] actually, I work for the City of

[31:19] Montréal, and I know that in our

[31:21] towns, are districts, whenever

[31:22] there is a huge construction

[31:24] project like this, they actually

[31:26] go ahead and there's a lot of

[31:28] the cities that do not own the

[31:30] equipment that cleans the

[31:31] streets, they run them, they

[31:32] leased them, so it is a

[31:34] possibility for these

[31:35] construction properties to

[31:36] actually lead slim as well. And

[31:37] a lot of construction projects

[31:39] actually do that in the City of

[31:41] Montréal. Where they are

[31:42] required to go ahead and have

[31:43] street cleaners and sidewalk

[31:45] cleaners come through. I

[31:46] understand the street cleaners,

[31:47] for example, in Pierrefonds, we

[31:49] have a big project and they come

[31:51] every night to go ahead and

[31:52] clean the street. But I know

[31:53] other places, other towns, they

[31:56] actually come on a Thursday, or

[31:57] once a week, or whatever, when

[31:59] they actually come and do the

[32:00] job. Because it is not getting

[32:02] done here. So that is why I was

[32:04] wondering why that is something

[32:05] that we can implement, I mean,

[32:07] these are huge developers that

[32:08] are with millions of dollars.

[32:11] And that is a drop in the bucket

[32:12] for them. But it is something

[32:14] that makes it a little bit more

[32:16] tolerant for us that if you are

[32:18] not going to take care of the

[32:19] sidewalk why of it open to

[32:21] pedestrians in the first place,

[32:22] right? That is my first point.

[32:25] And for my second point, it

[32:27] would also go back, I know it is

[32:29] a municipality by a law, you

[32:34] guys have not posted on the

[32:35] construction site in orange that

[32:37] they have to clean up after

[32:38] themselves. When you walk, and

[32:40] you can see this guy had lunch,

[32:43] and you can see his coffee cup

[32:44] on the neighbours lawn and you

[32:46] can see his beagle wrapper

[32:48] across from that and you can

[32:50] find during your walk, you can

[32:51] go ahead and piece together what

[32:53] he ate for lunch and it is a lot

[32:56] of garbage. My neighbours no

[32:58] longer walk to the park, they no

[33:01] longer walk near Baker because

[33:05] there's that much garbage that

[33:06] floats around next to the

[33:08] construction sites. I understand

[33:09] that it is the end of winter and

[33:11] snow melts. You go ahead and as

[33:14] someone who works with this, I

[33:19] work through the winter, and we

[33:21] didn't really have much of a

[33:22] winter to begin with. I think

[33:23] there's no excuse. You have

[33:27] almost 100 people a day that

[33:28] work on these construction

[33:29] sites, they are able to go ahead

[33:31] and litigate the task to go

[33:32] ahead and clean up this garbage

[33:34] to make living next to the

[33:35] construction site a little bit

[33:38] easier. I just want to know why

[33:39] that is enforced, since it is

[33:42] already a rule per Pointe-Claire

[33:43] that they cannot have lying

[33:45] around indoor construction zone.

[33:49] >> I would love for us to

[33:51] enforce that and I have no

[33:54] sympathy on that one. I really

[33:56] concur with you that it should

[33:57] not be happening. I am just

[34:00] wondering if we have the teeth

[34:01] to enforce that? Do we have the

[34:04] teeth to enforce the proper

[34:08] cleanup on a more regular basis?

[34:10] >> We look at that tomorrow to

[34:13] be sure that we can do it. It

[34:18] was on Hymus?

[34:20] >> I encourage you -- actually

[34:22] on Del Mar. I mean, you guys

[34:24] just started construction on the

[34:25] street today but if you take a

[34:27] look at the other side of the

[34:31] street, just that corner alone

[34:34] be careful. You don't want to

[34:35] get hit by something.

[34:37] >> I am always careful.

[34:39] >> You are saying careful in

[34:41] Montréal this is more diligently

[34:43] attended to?

[34:44] >> Yeah they actually have,

[34:47] especially for street cleaning,

[34:48] a lot of projects, like if they

[34:50] are big projects especially,

[34:52] where there is machinery that

[34:53] will be going on and off the

[34:54] street. You know, forklifts,

[34:56] jeans, everything. And these

[34:58] things have big money tires.

[34:59] And, you know, they bring mud

[35:01] from the construction site onto

[35:02] the street. And it is not

[35:04] something that you guys, in the

[35:06] summer last year, especially

[35:07] when it gets very does to you

[35:09] guys mandate the construction

[35:11] site to have a buggy with a

[35:12] trailer. And they sprint water

[35:14] down on the streets to go ahead

[35:15] and keep the dust down. I think

[35:17] that is more kind of so they do

[35:18] not dirty themselves. They do it

[35:23] for themselves but no one is

[35:24] saying they have to do it for

[35:25] citizens. It exists out there.

[35:27] It is not something new. It is

[35:29] definitely something to look

[35:30] into, I think.

[35:31] >> Thank you for your

[35:32] observations. I appreciate it.

[35:34] >> Have a good evening.

[35:36] >> Alex Russo?

[35:41] >> Hello. I will be brief and

[35:43] quick. There's four things I'm

[35:45] going to say. I will sum it up

[35:46] in one question in the end. And

[35:48] that is it. First of all I was,

[35:51] one team is transit because we

[35:52] know we are headed to massive

[35:54] transit issues in Pointe-Claire,

[35:56] especially with the REM. Have we

[35:58] started proactively opening up

[35:59] talks with the ARTM? All of the

[36:03] transit authorities to try to

[36:05] address this before it is a

[36:07] problem, as opposed to after?

[36:10] And in a previous council

[36:11] meeting, I actually suggested

[36:13] that we split the tax payments

[36:16] in two installments and actually

[36:20] -- I granted out the numbers

[36:24] with your own finance directors,

[36:27] so it looks like based on our

[36:29] budgets, we could actually

[36:30] easily afford it at this point.

[36:32] Maybe going to the surplus,

[36:34] maybe you lose another little

[36:35] project on the side or something

[36:36] along those lines, so that is

[36:38] something --

[36:39] >> For our own transit? So --

[36:47] >> For Pointe-Claire. So you

[36:50] pay, basically Montréal.

[36:52] >> So your tax bill, your annual

[36:56] tax and ways that you get, you

[37:00] can split it into four for the

[37:03] citizens. So some people can't

[37:05] pay 2400 outright it is tough

[37:07] for that. And it will cost the

[37:09] city about 600 K to do this.

[37:11] That is an insane amount of

[37:13] money. So we can do it.

[37:15] >> Slightly less and repairing

[37:17] our window. I hear you. Go

[37:20] ahead.

[37:21] >> Anyways, that was, it I was

[37:22] just following up on that one. I

[37:25] was just curious what was going

[37:26] on here. I also notice the new

[37:30] construction, I will call it

[37:32] whatever it is, they are putting

[37:34] it up there, it will have a

[37:35] direct impact on traffic where

[37:37] it could proceed ahead of time.

[37:38] I was hoping that we can

[37:40] instruct our traffic committee

[37:41] to proactively address that

[37:43] situation. Either, I don't know,

[37:45] one way southbound where the

[37:47] bike lane as a possibility, a no

[37:49] entry exit at the and directly,

[37:51] you might need to address

[37:52] traffic situations on St.

[37:54] John's, but I think that we need

[37:55] to get ahead with these

[37:58] problems. And the last thing is

[38:01] to make sure that we work

[38:03] towards much more active transit

[38:04] going towards the 2 am stations.

[38:06] So don't feel like we are we

[38:11] need a secured path to be there.

[38:13] Whatever you want. But it is not

[38:15] your car. Second of all, we also

[38:17] need security, runs because

[38:19] bikes will get stolen like no

[38:21] tomorrow. That's all I had.

[38:22] >> Okay. Well, the first one I

[38:27] would like to speak to is if you

[38:30] wanted -- okay. I voted last

[38:37] meeting with Alex and Michelle,

[38:39] the mayors of Dillard and

[38:41] Kirkland, because they have not

[38:43] specified St. Johns, St.

[38:45] Charles, and sources as public

[38:46] transit oriented corridors in

[38:49] their own budgeting, in their

[38:51] own documentation, which was

[38:54] astonishing, guys. We would

[38:56] certainly like for that to

[38:57] happen. I mean, one of the

[38:59] bigger issues with the REM is

[39:00] getting to it, and in

[39:02] Pointe-Claire, south in

[39:05] particular. You got the 20 and

[39:08] the 40, so as you well know

[39:11] there is an overpass. There are

[39:13] a couple of overpasses in the

[39:15] works which is good news, so we

[39:18] still need a ton of effort to

[39:20] make the north and south to the

[39:22] REM viable. And one of those

[39:24] suggestions is the extension to

[39:26] the jock bizarre corridor. And

[39:28] ideally, even making a public

[39:30] transit oriented corridor so

[39:31] that people from Pointe-Claire

[39:32] south could get straight to the

[39:34] REM from along that corridor.

[39:36] With the priority on transit and

[39:39] emergency vehicles. And that has

[39:41] been a discussion on our level.

[39:43] So I hear you loud and clear on

[39:45] that one. As for May would, yes,

[39:48] it is going to be an issue, and

[39:50] everyone is aware of that. You

[39:52] are quite right. And that is

[39:54] going to be something to be

[39:55] dealt with, and it is a

[39:56] challenge, absolutely, the

[39:58] traffic committee will have to

[39:59] work on that and we will have to

[40:00] figure it out big time. But the

[40:01] other option would have been as

[40:04] -- even worse, as far as traffic

[40:06] density on that corridor. So we

[40:08] are grappling with a difficult

[40:11] challenge, less of a challenge,

[40:12] but still a challenge,

[40:14] nonetheless. And I hear you loud

[40:15] and clear. Thank you.

[40:18] (inaudible)

[40:19] Tax splitting?

[40:21] >> I will speak to Mr. Seguin

[40:22] about that. It has been kicked

[40:24] around and Council. We have not

[40:26] resolved that one. It is a

[40:27] possibility, although the cost

[40:30] is a factor. Did you want to

[40:32] speak to that one, Councillor

[40:34] Stork?

[40:35] >> Just in reference to that,

[40:38] the procedure will definitely be

[40:40] an open book transparent event,

[40:42] we haven't heard much about it,

[40:45] we go to their website rarely to

[40:46] see if there's any updates, but

[40:48] that will be part of the

[40:49] procedure. All traffic will be

[40:50] looked at, as we mentioned,

[40:52] kicked around maybe one away, or

[40:54] two ways, it will be all of that

[40:57] that will be discussed as the

[40:59] project moves forward. I can

[41:01] tell you that it is one of the

[41:04] biggest issues and we will all

[41:07] stay on top of that, for sure.

[41:12] >> John Patrick? Yvon qu'Albert.

[41:20] Je m'excuse. Je m'excuse, Yvon.

[41:29] Thank you, Daniel.

[41:30] - Bonsoir. Où en est la ville

[41:36] avec les arbres envahissant les

[41:38] fils électriques? Est-ce que

[41:39] vous avez fait un relevé de tout

[41:42] ce qu'il y avait?

[41:43] - Pas assez. On peut faire plus,

[41:47] absolument. Vous parlez au sujet

[41:48] des fils électriques?

[41:51] - Non, non. Je demande: est-ce

[41:53] que la Ville a fait un relevé de

[41:55] tous les arbres qui envahissent

[41:57] les fils électriques?

[41:58] - Probablement que non, parce

[42:00] que c'est toujours le cas. Les

[42:03] arbres s'accordiez toujours.

[42:04] Alors, on ne sait jamais, mais

[42:05] on essaye.

[42:07] - Ça grandit. L'année dernière,

[42:10] à cette période-ci, on était

[42:12] trois, quatre, cinq jours sans

[42:14] électricité.

[42:15] - Oui, je me souviens.

[42:16] - On recommence cette année,

[42:17] demain, après-demain?

[42:18] - Non, c'est déjà commencé.

[42:21] C'est une job énorme. On ne veut

[42:24] pas couper les arbres pour

[42:25] aucune raison non plus. On veut

[42:26] préserver les arbres.

[42:27] - Pourquoi pas? Hydro-Québec à

[42:32] réalité qu'ils doivent les

[42:33] couper.

[42:34] - Oui.

[42:35] - Alors, pourquoi la Ville ne le

[42:36] fait pas?

[42:37] - Absolument. C'est absolument

[42:38] nécessaire. On le sait, ça. On

[42:41] fait de notre mieux.

[42:43] (---)

[42:44] Aussi est responsable. Hydro.

[42:47] - Moi, j'avais un arbre à 1

[42:49] mètre et demi d'un poteau, d'un

[42:51] poteau d'Hydro. 1 mètre et demi.

[42:57] Alors, ça m'a coûté plus de 3000

[42:59] dollars pour l'enlever. Est-ce

[43:02] que la Ville fait une subvention

[43:03] pour ça?

[43:04] - Bonne question. Ça dépend qui

[43:08] est le propriétaire de l'arbre.

[43:12] - C'est à la limite entre la

[43:15] ville et moi.

[43:17] - Oui, ça va être la prochaine

[43:19] question aussi. Si c'est votre

[43:20] arbre, c'est votre

[43:22] responsabilité.

[43:23] - Donc, on met la moitié sur la

[43:24] ville et la moitié chez moi.

[43:28] Notre chose: la facture

[43:32] électrique de la Ville doit être

[43:33] assez élevé avec tous les

[43:34] bâtiments qu'il y a. Avez-vous

[43:36] déjà pensé à mettre des panneaux

[43:39] photovoltaïque sur tous les toi

[43:47] des bâtiments de la ville?

[43:49] - C'est une bonne question.

[43:50] C'est une très bonne question.

[43:52] Madame Verdon, est-ce qu'on a

[43:53] parlé de ça?

[43:54] - Il y en a beaucoup, des

[43:56] bâtiments.

[43:57] - Oui, oui. On a beaucoup de

[43:58] bâtiments. Ce n'est pas une

[43:59] mauvaise idée. C'est le coût

[44:01] puis la possibilité de le faire.

[44:07] - Ce n'est pas un projet qui est

[44:09] amorcé présentement à la ville.

[44:10] C'est quelque chose qu'il

[44:11] faudrait regarder avec la

[44:13] rentabilité aussi. Mais pour

[44:14] l'instant, ce n'est pas un

[44:15] projet d'avoir des panneaux

[44:17] électriques. Mais je ne vous dis

[44:18] pas que ce ne serait pas quelque

[44:20] chose, dans le futur, qu'on va

[44:22] regarder.

[44:23] - Merci.

[44:24] - Merci, Monsieur. Maintenant,

[44:26] monsieur Kilpatrick, John

[44:28] Kilpatrick.

[44:40] >> Last month, you made some

[44:41] statements, and honestly --

[44:42] honestly, I was gonna come here

[44:43] and have a debate with you, but

[44:44] I'm not going to degrade myself

[44:45] to your level.

[44:56] >> That is a little harsh, sir.

[44:58] I don't think my level is

[45:00] degrading yourself. With all due

[45:04] respect, Mr. Kilpatrick, that

[45:06] exchange was filmed. That

[45:09] exchange was film. People can

[45:10] decide for themselves of that. I

[45:12] think your statement is not a

[45:13] correct one, and it is not a

[45:15] nice way to start a question.

[45:17] Please continue.

[45:21] >> So, I've been trying to get

[45:22] the city to listen to me for --

[45:25] about my three problems, since

[45:26] April of last year. It was clear

[45:29] that it was not getting anywhere

[45:31] with the administration, at the

[45:34] suggestion of my councillor, I

[45:36] came here to get you, Mister

[45:38] Mayor, and the Council to

[45:39] understand my problem. And to

[45:41] act on it, as I am told, this is

[45:44] my right. But that did not work,

[45:47] either. First, Mister Mayor, you

[45:50] said you didn't know anything.

[45:52] Then, you said that you didn't

[45:54] support --

[45:55] >> That is on a webcast, that is

[45:57] recorded, I did not say that.

[45:59] Please continue.

[46:00] >> Thank you. Then you said you

[46:08] supported whatever your staff

[46:09] had told me. Then you said that

[46:12] you didn't know anything about

[46:13] the email that I received that

[46:16] was originally sent out by your

[46:18] staff over your signature block.

[46:21] Then you said you did not know

[46:23] about the email. But then you

[46:26] didn't write it. Getting over, I

[46:30] finally gave up on February the

[46:33] 7th of 2024. I was done with the

[46:37] tree. Then I hear that in the

[46:40] March meeting, you called me out

[46:42] as a plant. I told you before

[46:46] that there was an email from

[46:48] you, my councillor had forwarded

[46:50] to me, I'm sorry -- I don't like

[46:57] this. They forwarded near answer

[47:02] to the question I had actually

[47:04] asked you. But that you never

[47:07] sent to me. I didn't know why

[47:09] you just didn't answer me

[47:11] yourself. Or have your staff

[47:13] answer for you. If you were too

[47:16] busy, but, to call me a plant?

[47:20] Are you going to apologize?

[47:22] >> Mr. Kilpatrick, what happened

[47:25] in all of that exchange was an

[47:27] email was given to you that was

[47:29] an internal email. So I was

[47:31] being asked where there are

[47:33] people who were being encouraged

[47:35] to asked questions by other

[47:37] councillors. You actually, just

[47:39] in your statement, suggested

[47:40] that your presence here is a

[47:42] suggestion on the part of your

[47:44] Councillor. So you are

[47:45] confirming, exactly what I just

[47:47] said. And your first, unofficial

[47:50] trip to the microphone was based

[47:51] on an email that was internal

[47:53] that was written not by me,

[47:55] which you stated it was written

[47:56] by me, and it was in fact

[47:59] written from my office by my

[48:02] assistant, and it was an update

[48:03] of an issue. And it wasn't any

[48:05] kind of conspiratorial email,

[48:07] but you made it and implied like

[48:09] it was as such. And you have

[48:11] been given that email, which was

[48:13] an internal email. So if ever

[48:15] there was an example of someone

[48:18] being sent to a microphone to be

[48:19] asked a question based on

[48:21] internal information, you are

[48:23] it, and I stand by that

[48:24] statement. And I would encourage

[48:27] all of our processes going

[48:28] forward to not reveal internal

[48:31] emails to citizens because it is

[48:33] not a helpful part of the

[48:34] process. It does not add for a

[48:36] positive result.

[48:39] >> Mister Mayor, you are

[48:41] implying that I did something.

[48:44] >> Councillor Cowan, I am still

[48:47] speaking. I am still speaking. I

[48:50] am the chair of this meeting.

[48:55] Councillor Cowan, I will

[48:57] continue to answer me. You have

[49:02] already been responded to on

[49:04] numerous occasions. You were

[49:07] responded to politely from this

[49:09] microphone at least three times.

[49:11] Two or three times in your

[49:14] visits. You have not been

[49:16] ignored. There is no need for

[49:17] another email or response.

[49:19] You've been spoken to politely

[49:21] and I have resorted to the

[49:23] expertise of my staff. My staff,

[49:25] who are professionals, have

[49:28] given a result, or a study of

[49:30] your tree. And I am confident of

[49:33] their advice. They are paid to

[49:38] do that, they are professionals,

[49:40] we are not in the habit of

[49:41] cutting trees unnecessarily. I

[49:43] have taken their advice. That is

[49:45] my answer then, that is my

[49:46] answer now.

[49:48] >> So you are not going to

[49:50] apologize?

[49:51] >> I'm not going to apologize,

[49:52] no. I encourage the citizens of

[49:55] Pointe-Claire to review yours

[49:57] and my exchanges at the

[49:59] microphone. It is webcast. And

[50:01] we will let them decide. Whether

[50:03] an apology from me is an order

[50:06] or vice versa.

[50:10] >> Okay. So I guess there's no

[50:13] point discussing my tree.

[50:16] >> You have been given the

[50:18] answer. Unless you have a

[50:20] different question pertaining to

[50:21] your tree.

[50:23] >> You've been saying since

[50:24] October, November.

[50:31] >> This is your second or third

[50:33] question. We are proceeding

[50:35] accordingly, and I would like to

[50:36] know what your next question is.

[50:38] You've already engaged the mayor

[50:40] on a couple of points, I will

[50:43] conduct another one.

[50:45] >> I've only ask you one

[50:46] question. You interrupted my

[50:48] speech.

[50:49] >> I didn't interrupt, you are

[50:50] correct to do a couple of times,

[50:51] you are allowed to continue.

[50:53] >> Thank you.

[51:05] >> This is a basic argument. In

[51:07] order to properly make my trees

[51:08] safe, I must either prune or get

[51:12] my tree as per the city or cut

[51:13] it down. The city accepts this

[51:17] fact. We are in agreement that

[51:20] the City tells me that I cannot

[51:22] choose for myself the best way.

[51:25] I have to make the trees safe,

[51:27] but I am not allowed by cutting

[51:29] it down. The city is forcing

[51:31] need to spend money to keep this

[51:33] tree, and make it safe for

[51:35] everybody else. I could keep the

[51:40] public safe and help the

[51:43] environment by cutting the tree

[51:44] down and replacing it with two

[51:47] saplings. But the city will not

[51:48] let me. Since I am responsible

[51:53] to make the trees safe, but I

[51:56] can't cut it down, the City is

[51:58] forcing me to -- this would cost

[52:01] me $1,800 to prepare the tree

[52:04] for the cabling, which would

[52:06] cost me another $3,000. In

[52:09] total, $4,800 versus $3,000 to

[52:12] have it cut down. If I trim the

[52:16] tree, every two years, it will

[52:18] cost me an additional $1,000 per

[52:21] two years. Which would cost me

[52:23] another $10,000 in total. Which

[52:30] would then be out of my pocket,

[52:32] and it would keep my neighbours

[52:35] safe. Isn't this keeping

[52:38] citizens safe, the city's

[52:42] responsibility? If I cut the

[52:43] tree down I will pay $3,000,

[52:46] when I replace it, with the two

[52:48] saplings, I will pay another

[52:50] $300, which will cost me another

[52:52] total of $3,000. There will be

[52:56] no need for any more pruning,

[52:57] further maintenance in my

[53:00] lifetime. So it will be 3300 for

[53:04] the next four years or so.

[53:22] Do you think it is fair to force

[53:23] one citizens to pay the cost to

[53:26] keep everyone else safe? When

[53:28] there is a cheaper option

[53:30] possible? If the City wants to

[53:31] keep the tree that badly

[53:33] shouldn't it be paying the

[53:35] additional cost? The City of

[53:40] Pointe-Claire is ordering me to

[53:43] spend my money to preserve it

[53:45] damaged tree on my property for

[53:47] the safety of others. So that

[53:49] people in general can benefit.

[53:55] Has the city mandated this

[53:57] action to any other resident? Or

[54:00] am I being singled out once

[54:03] again?

[54:05] >> Since the city is making a

[54:09] prison by forcing me to spend my

[54:12] money to preserve this tree, I

[54:14] would expect that the City would

[54:16] then be doing this for all

[54:19] unsafe items on residents and

[54:22] private property. For example,

[54:25] the windmill which is owned by

[54:26] the church, it is on the

[54:28] church's property, which is in

[54:30] dire need for repairs. As it is

[54:34] unsafe. Why is the City willing

[54:36] to put $1 million of taxpayers

[54:39] money there and not force the

[54:42] church to put the entire bill?

[54:45] As you are mandating need to do.

[54:52] In closing, I reviewed all of my

[54:54] notes, emails, and videos. I was

[54:57] wondering, why do you have the

[54:58] right to single out a person and

[55:00] accuse this person of being a

[55:02] plant by anyone else just

[55:07] because you were criticized? I

[55:11] was also wondering what the rest

[55:13] of the city, including Council,

[55:15] and the administrations think

[55:17] about you suppressing free

[55:20] speech when you don't happen to

[55:23] like what is being discussed at

[55:25] the council meeting?

[55:28] >> I think that is not a fair

[55:30] suggestion. This is your third

[55:32] attempt on the same issue.

[55:34] Clearly this is not a

[55:36] suppression of your expression

[55:37] at all. You have had a freedom

[55:39] of expression, we are done, I am

[55:45] responding, we are done, I am

[55:47] responding. You have been

[55:48] allowed to speak quite

[55:50] extensively. Now I am

[55:51] responding. This is my response.

[55:55] You don't get to rebut. I am

[55:57] going to answer but you do not

[55:59] get to rebut. You've asked your

[56:01] questions and I am now

[56:02] answering. There is no rebuttal.

[56:05] All right? So, first of all, you

[56:09] had ample opportunity to express

[56:13] yourself regarding your tree.

[56:17] You are still refusing to accept

[56:18] the city's response which was

[56:20] given to you by my arborists and

[56:23] more than one trained expert.

[56:25] You had outside opinions, all of

[56:27] them are the same, people want

[56:29] to keep the tree alive, people

[56:30] want to keep the tree alive

[56:32] because it is not fair to cut

[56:33] trees down when they are not

[56:36] dead. So we try and keep the

[56:38] simplest way to keep our

[56:39] environment healthy is to not

[56:40] cut down trees. To keep our

[56:44] environment cleaner and to have

[56:46] trees, they help us survive. So

[56:47] it is the goal of an arborist to

[56:50] decide whether to cut a tree or

[56:52] not and whether it's life should

[56:53] be terminated and professionals

[56:55] do that. They advise us, I

[56:58] listen to them. You are not

[56:59] being singled out, this is a

[57:01] rule that applies to citizens

[57:03] across the entire city and we

[57:04] are not in the habit of cutting

[57:06] a tree down because it might

[57:08] have a wound or something on it.

[57:13] I suspect the arborist are

[57:15] trying to preserve trees as long

[57:17] as they can without cutting them

[57:20] down. You are not being singled

[57:21] out. As for the archdiocese, we

[57:25] have tried to get the

[57:27] archdiocese to repair the window

[57:28] and we continue to try and do

[57:31] that. We have solicited the help

[57:33] of other variables of government

[57:35] to do that as well. So it is not

[57:37] like we haven't tried and we

[57:38] continue to do so. Thank you,

[57:41] Mr. Kilpatrick. Thank you very

[57:44] much. This is the third I just

[57:49] answered your question. This is

[57:54] your third trip and your third

[57:57] visit to the microphone and

[57:59] succession meetings with respect

[58:02] to all the other citizens. That

[58:04] is hardly polite of you and

[58:06] hopefully that was shown on

[58:08] tape. It just goes to character.

[58:12] Paul Atkinson?

[58:20] >> Good evening.

[58:28] I have a council meeting about

[58:30] six months ago where some

[58:31] residents were asked to meet

[58:32] with the City to discuss ways to

[58:34] restore our quality of life

[58:35] following the inflation to town

[58:38] houses behind our houses. Out of

[58:40] that meeting came an offer from

[58:41] the City to install hedges along

[58:43] the back of our properties or

[58:45] have two trees get into us to

[58:48] plant in our backyards. When the

[58:51] arborists came to speak to us

[58:52] about this in November, she was

[58:54] unaware that the hedge was an

[58:55] option. Then last week we

[58:59] received emails from the

[59:00] arborists saying that we have

[59:02] until April 5th, and there is no

[59:07] mention of the hedge. And nobody

[59:11] has gotten back to me. It is

[59:15] difficult for residents to say

[59:16] if they want the trees, if they

[59:18] don't know what the hedge option

[59:20] is. In addition to that, one of

[59:21] the issues with the trees is

[59:23] that it seems quite large, and

[59:25] it is questionable and viable

[59:26] for our properties given the

[59:29] proximity that they will be to

[59:30] power lines. So, what we want to

[59:36] know is is the hedge still an

[59:38] option? If so, what kind of

[59:40] hedges it, what would be the

[59:42] height when it is installed,

[59:44] right now there is a three foot

[59:45] tall hedge that was installed on

[59:47] the properties to ensure

[59:49] privacy, but it is completely

[59:50] useless. And we also want to

[59:52] know, is this in addition to the

[59:54] trees or is it either, for?

[59:58] Because from the Councillors

[59:59] email, it seemed as though it

[1:00:01] was either or. So, you know? If

[1:00:05] we select trees in three days

[1:00:08] time, does not mean that we are

[1:00:09] no longer allowed to have hedges

[1:00:12] installed? So, there's just a

[1:00:15] lot of things that are going

[1:00:16] unanswered, and there's a very

[1:00:18] tight deadline.

[1:00:19] >> Okay. I hear you. Madame

[1:00:23] Verdon?

[1:00:24] >> Okay, the tree or hedges or

[1:00:28] two different things. We have

[1:00:30] people choosing edges, so maybe

[1:00:33] at your house, they weren't

[1:00:35] aware. Because we have the list

[1:00:36] of people who chose one or the

[1:00:38] other. I know the contact people

[1:00:43] with the trees right now, and we

[1:00:45] are in the process for the price

[1:00:47] of the hedge. It would be small,

[1:00:50] three or four feet, because it

[1:00:51] would be higher, there's the

[1:00:55] chance of survival that would be

[1:00:56] not good, and we just want to

[1:00:58] remember that we will provide

[1:00:59] the hedge. And you know, we

[1:01:02] can't go in the yard of people

[1:01:04] planting them. So we would

[1:01:06] provide the hedge.

[1:01:07] >> So would be delivering three

[1:01:09] foot tall hedges?

[1:01:10] >> Three or four.

[1:01:14] >> Okay. The ones are installed

[1:01:17] along the property line --

[1:01:19] >> Could you get closer?

[1:01:20] >> The ones that were installed

[1:01:22] at the property line, they were

[1:01:23] three feet tall. Right now, they

[1:01:24] are maybe four, five. They are

[1:01:26] very sparse. It just seems like

[1:01:29] it is -- like I said, the one on

[1:01:34] the ground side is useless. I

[1:01:35] have very low confidence and it

[1:01:37] being provided any hedges idle.

[1:01:43] You don't seem to have much

[1:01:44] confidence yourself.

[1:01:45] >> No, you know, we can provide

[1:01:49] the amount, and the height of

[1:01:52] the hedge, that we can, and --

[1:01:56] because we cannot, you know? It

[1:01:59] depends on the size, so it is

[1:02:00] difficult to explain for

[1:02:02] everybody. So it is on a case by

[1:02:04] case.

[1:02:05] >> Sorry -- I don't understand.

[1:02:08] >> So the size and the amount of

[1:02:10] the hedge, depending on the

[1:02:11] space we have in the yard,

[1:02:13] basically. So which one would be

[1:02:15] the better size, for the better,

[1:02:17] you know, quality. So we want to

[1:02:20] find the best quality for the

[1:02:21] citizens, basically.

[1:02:22] >> So when will we know? Because

[1:02:24] we have to make this decision in

[1:02:25] two days if we want trees or

[1:02:27] hedges, and we don't know what

[1:02:28] the hedge is.

[1:02:30] >> We are presenting the offer,

[1:02:32] you, know we are waiting for it.

[1:02:34] >> So you won't have it in time

[1:02:35] for the deadline of the trees?

[1:02:37] >> No, probably not.

[1:02:38] >> So you are forcing the hands

[1:02:41] of people to make a decision --

[1:02:44] >> The arborists from the city,

[1:02:46] people are asking if they want

[1:02:48] to hedge or the trees.

[1:02:49] >> Multiple neighbours spoke to

[1:02:52] the arborist and told her that

[1:02:53] they wanted hedges, and were

[1:02:55] told that she knew nothing about

[1:02:57] the edges.

[1:02:59] >> Okay.

[1:03:01] >> Okay?

[1:03:03] >> So you need to know before

[1:03:06] missing out on the trees whether

[1:03:07] you are getting a hedge -- so

[1:03:09] can we get a decision on the

[1:03:10] hedge before they can

[1:03:13] relinquish, not get the trees?

[1:03:14] Because of the can get the hedge

[1:03:15] they will opt for the trees.

[1:03:17] >> I think it is something we

[1:03:18] have to discuss after City

[1:03:20] Council with the citizens

[1:03:21] directly to have all the

[1:03:23] information.

[1:03:24] >> But they have four or five

[1:03:26] days, we don't have time.

[1:03:27] >> But I don't have all of the

[1:03:28] information with me right now.

[1:03:30] >> Okay --

[1:03:32] >> I don't see how we could

[1:03:33] possibly schedule something.

[1:03:34] This came out on March 27th.

[1:03:37] >> Well we can find out whether

[1:03:38] you are getting the hedges

[1:03:39] pretty quickly. If you could

[1:03:40] send me an email tomorrow, we

[1:03:42] could try to follow up on

[1:03:44] whether you will get hedges or

[1:03:45] not. If you won't get hedges,

[1:03:48] you will opt for trees, I'm

[1:03:49] assuming?

[1:03:50] >> It is still unclear if the

[1:03:51] trees are viable, given the size

[1:03:52] of the trees that are being

[1:03:53] offered. And the powerlines that

[1:03:55] we have on our properties. It is

[1:03:58] unclear if these would be a good

[1:03:59] fit for our yards.

[1:04:00] >> So you need an arborist.

[1:04:04] Yeah.

[1:04:05] >> Yes, we need answers.

[1:04:06] >> I hear you. You've made a

[1:04:08] good point. We will get on it. I

[1:04:12] will get on it first thing

[1:04:13] tomorrow.

[1:04:15] >> All right, thank you.

[1:04:17] >> Thank you, sir. Susan Weaver?

[1:04:30] >> Okay. Last month's council

[1:04:33] meeting, you falsely accused me

[1:04:35] of being planted at Council

[1:04:38] meetings by councillors. You not

[1:04:40] only accused me, but also

[1:04:43] accused another citizen as being

[1:04:45] planted. You accuse councillors

[1:04:47] of planting citizens going back

[1:04:50] to the suburban article in

[1:04:52] January. Accusations without any

[1:04:55] real proof. Hearsay is not

[1:04:57] proof. I would like to have

[1:04:59] something in writing from you to

[1:05:01] backup your accusations about

[1:05:02] me. I like things in writing.

[1:05:06] And Mr. Tremblay knows that now.

[1:05:07] Put it in writing!

[1:05:10] >> Is that your question, Miss

[1:05:12] Weaver? Is there a question and

[1:05:14] there? Or you just hurdling an

[1:05:16] accusation? I'm just wondering

[1:05:17] if there is a question.

[1:05:18] >> That is not an accusation.

[1:05:20] That is a statement.

[1:05:21] >> How is that an accusation?

[1:05:24] >> I responded politely and

[1:05:27] concisely last meeting. You had

[1:05:29] information that was internal.

[1:05:30] And therefore, the only way you

[1:05:32] got that internal information

[1:05:34] was how, Miss Weaver? I pointed

[1:05:38] out, same with the email with

[1:05:40] Mr. Kilpatrick.

[1:05:41] >> I want proof! Proof in

[1:05:44] writing!

[1:05:45] >> There is no necessary proof

[1:05:46] in writing. We are in a council

[1:05:50] meeting. Miss Weaver, I am

[1:05:52] answering quite clearly. I

[1:05:54] referred to you as a --

[1:05:57] >> You are accusing me!

[1:05:59] >> Ms. Weaver, you did it, it

[1:06:01] was in a council meeting, it is

[1:06:03] on record. You spoke to internal

[1:06:06] knowledge at a meeting about

[1:06:07] what was said and a caucus

[1:06:09] meeting. You had that

[1:06:12] information. And I pointed that

[1:06:13] out to you. Now the only thing

[1:06:15] that I said, Miss Weaver -- Miss

[1:06:18] Weaver, Miss Weaver, this is --

[1:06:20] Miss Weaver, this is not a

[1:06:23] debate. It is not right to hurl,

[1:06:26] you don't control this

[1:06:28] discussion, Miss Weaver. I am

[1:06:29] telling you clearly and

[1:06:31] concisely. I am the chair, and I

[1:06:34] can actually shut this down at

[1:06:36] anytime I would like. And I will

[1:06:37] tell you right now, I would like

[1:06:39] to ask everybody to refer to

[1:06:41] last council meeting, the

[1:06:43] response to Miss Weaver was

[1:06:44] concise, and exactly true, and

[1:06:46] there was nothing illegitimate

[1:06:47] or true about it. Please review

[1:06:49] it, I responded to you quite

[1:06:51] clearly about her knowledge

[1:06:54] regarding a newspaper and

[1:06:55] funding of a newspaper and an

[1:06:57] internal caucus discussion. She

[1:06:59] somehow knew about it. How did

[1:07:01] she know about that? I pointed

[1:07:02] it out to her. It was her own --

[1:07:06] madam, we have answered. You

[1:07:09] asked and answered that. That

[1:07:10] has been answered last council

[1:07:12] meeting. Thank you Miss Weaver.

[1:07:13] >> Thank you, I have all the

[1:07:15] access to information. 2021 to

[1:07:19] 2022 --

[1:07:20] >> Thank you very much, like Mr.

[1:07:22] Kilpatrick, we already discussed

[1:07:23] this issue, okay?

[1:07:24] >> So you can't write a letter?

[1:07:26] >> Miss Weaver, I've answered

[1:07:28] your question.

[1:07:29] >> I would really like to have

[1:07:31] proof, though.

[1:07:32] >> It is already on record. It

[1:07:33] is taped and filmed and

[1:07:34] everybody can watch it. Thank

[1:07:36] you Miss Weaver. Thank you Miss

[1:07:38] Weaver. I refer all these

[1:07:40] citizens -- Miss Weaver, excuse

[1:07:41] me, I am going to actually ask

[1:07:43] you -- thank you very much.

[1:07:45] David Johnston?

[1:07:52] >> Hello everyone. I was out of

[1:07:58] town last month, and I just saw

[1:08:01] a video recording of last

[1:08:04] month's meeting, which was

[1:08:07] remarkably cordial. At the end

[1:08:10] of it, I was surprised and

[1:08:17] heartened and a bit dismayed to

[1:08:18] see the revelation that there is

[1:08:20] going to be some sort of public

[1:08:23] tender for some sort of new

[1:08:24] public consultation. Perhaps

[1:08:28] related to Fairview forest. As

[1:08:33] many of you know, the

[1:08:35] consultations that we've held so

[1:08:37] far have we'll avoided talking

[1:08:48] directly with some of the

[1:08:49] strongest issues of contention

[1:08:51] in Pointe-Claire we never had a

[1:08:56] proper discussion of Fairview

[1:08:58] forest. We've never had a proper

[1:09:01] discussion of development on the

[1:09:05] Cadillac Fairview mull property.

[1:09:09] We have never had the legality

[1:09:13] of the new metropolitan urban

[1:09:18] plan injected into the

[1:09:20] discussion. So that you can see

[1:09:24] separation of fact from fiction

[1:09:25] as to what Pointe-Claire can, or

[1:09:27] can't do within the limits or

[1:09:29] parameters of metropolitan or

[1:09:34] provincial law.

[1:09:42] The last consultation was about

[1:09:44] beg paths on Saint-Jean. Of all

[1:09:47] the innocuous stuff they could

[1:09:48] come up with, we are talking

[1:09:50] about bike paths on Saint-Jean?

[1:09:56] Other cities in the West Island

[1:09:58] finish their consultations. They

[1:10:00] had their plans in place. But it

[1:10:02] looks like we are still spinning

[1:10:04] our wheels and nothing will be

[1:10:08] resolved before the next

[1:10:10] election.

[1:10:15] I had heard that this was a

[1:10:19] possibility spending extra money

[1:10:22] beyond what we spend already. I

[1:10:25] don't know how much that has

[1:10:26] been or the consultations that

[1:10:28] we have now. But, I am hoping

[1:10:35] that it will not just be a

[1:10:37] session like the ones that we

[1:10:38] have had before. Where we post

[1:10:44] an invitation to a meeting and

[1:10:47] 50 people show up. Many of them

[1:10:50] are repeat participants. And we

[1:10:57] have an exercise like an ancient

[1:11:00] Rome where an end of an hour and

[1:11:02] a half it is thumbs up to the

[1:11:04] gladiator or thumbs down. And

[1:11:07] without any proper

[1:11:10] accompaniment, of information

[1:11:13] that will help reduce in foreign

[1:11:19] public opinion on the issue. As

[1:11:22] you know, I mentioned before one

[1:11:24] of the problems with municipal

[1:11:26] consultations is that people

[1:11:28] basically are not prone to want

[1:11:30] to participate in them. In 2017,

[1:11:34] the upset is polling firm found

[1:11:36] that 91% of Canadians said that

[1:11:37] they would never leave their

[1:11:39] house. To participate in this

[1:11:42] public consultation. Why not?

[1:11:46] 55% said that they feel if you

[1:11:47] strong ways is dominate the

[1:11:50] discussions. And 38% said they

[1:11:52] feel shy about expressing my

[1:11:55] opinion at a public forum. I

[1:12:00] asked before if the city would

[1:12:03] be willing given these steaks

[1:12:08] the

[1:12:14] -- around the REM and Fairview

[1:12:17] forest and the small property,

[1:12:18] whether we could have something

[1:12:20] exceptional where we could reach

[1:12:22] out through a direct mailing of

[1:12:24] some sort to hundreds of people

[1:12:26] in Pointe-Claire representing

[1:12:29] the population. To solicit their

[1:12:34] views and have them also be sent

[1:12:38] some kind of information package

[1:12:40] that would provide them with

[1:12:43] information that would help them

[1:12:45] come to some determination. I

[1:12:47] think that you said if there is

[1:12:50] money in the budget, we will

[1:12:52] look at that. So have we decided

[1:12:54] yet whether it would be another

[1:12:56] session like the other ones? Or

[1:12:58] will this be an exceptional

[1:13:02] consultation given the

[1:13:03] exceptional nature --

[1:13:04] >> What is the Fairview forest

[1:13:07] one. Good question, Fairview

[1:13:10] forest one, the problem we had

[1:13:11] with the Fairview forest one was

[1:13:14] the existing consultant did not

[1:13:16] come to tender as quickly as we

[1:13:18] would've liked for that session

[1:13:20] that had to be the gap that had

[1:13:23] to be filled. So it how to go to

[1:13:26] tender to get other consultants

[1:13:27] to bid to conduct that session.

[1:13:30] That is what happened with that

[1:13:33] one. It would be conducted, I

[1:13:36] suspect, in the same manner as

[1:13:38] the previous ones.

[1:13:40] >> Sorry to hear that.

[1:13:42] >> Mr. Johnson, if he would stop

[1:13:44] intervening while I am speaking,

[1:13:45] I would like to say from what

[1:13:47] I've heard from a lot of the

[1:13:48] participants in the process it

[1:13:50] has been a positive process. My

[1:13:52] staff has told me that it has

[1:13:53] been a positive process. It has

[1:13:55] not been the same old characters

[1:13:56] every time. It has actually been

[1:13:58] different characters quite

[1:14:00] frequently. And it has been

[1:14:01] quite a successful event where a

[1:14:04] lot of these consultations have

[1:14:05] been very positive and well

[1:14:08] conducted. The citizens have

[1:14:09] come away satisfied which in the

[1:14:12] end, is the objective. And if

[1:14:13] the citizens are happy, unlike

[1:14:15] yourself, Mr. Johnson, people

[1:14:17] have the citizens that have been

[1:14:18] involved have come back and give

[1:14:19] us positive feedback. Whether

[1:14:21] they are being done quickly

[1:14:26] enough, no. I would much prefer

[1:14:28] this process to be a Quaker one

[1:14:30] and a vast repeatedly to

[1:14:32] expedite this process. And I

[1:14:33] agree with you 100%. I wish it

[1:14:35] was done more quickly and we

[1:14:38] have been after staff to try to

[1:14:41] push the consultants to get this

[1:14:43] process along the way. As for

[1:14:47] the legitimacy of the process,

[1:14:49] and whether it works, very

[1:14:52] successful process was conducted

[1:14:53] in Kirkland where they did not

[1:14:55] do any direct mailing. They did

[1:14:57] appeal to the citizens and there

[1:14:59] are numerous examples of cities

[1:15:00] across North America that

[1:15:04] conduct consultations or citizen

[1:15:09] arrangements that have been

[1:15:11] quite successful. I feel you are

[1:15:13] negative and putting a negative

[1:15:16] part over the whole process. It

[1:15:18] has been a positive process. If

[1:15:20] people participate and we come

[1:15:21] up with a viable result that

[1:15:23] people except it is a very good

[1:15:25] process. So I do not agree with

[1:15:27] your assessment. As for the

[1:15:31] PMAD. It cannot completely alter

[1:15:34] consultations because it is a

[1:15:36] negotiable document. Where it is

[1:15:38] a proposal. It is not a final

[1:15:42] document. So you cannot allow it

[1:15:43] to subsequently alter your whole

[1:15:45] public consultation because the

[1:15:47] document itself is not final. So

[1:15:48] you don't know what the end

[1:15:49] result is going to be so it

[1:15:51] shouldn't take the result of the

[1:15:53] consultation. So that is the

[1:15:54] best answer I can give you for

[1:15:55] the multitude of topics that you

[1:15:57] preferred to -- you have one or

[1:15:59] two more, maybe one more? A

[1:16:02] potential topic of conversation?

[1:16:03] >> I do. After the fourth

[1:16:05] consultation in the city

[1:16:07] documents, there was talk of

[1:16:08] forming a city citizens

[1:16:10] committee that would help the

[1:16:14] city advise the City on public

[1:16:18] consultations going forward, and

[1:16:20] wondering what happened to that

[1:16:22] committee -- because I have a

[1:16:23] few points that I think I would

[1:16:25] like to propose be included in

[1:16:29] any discussion that we would

[1:16:32] have on Fairview forest. The

[1:16:34] main one being that I do not

[1:16:35] think that we can consult on it

[1:16:39] in isolation. I think any

[1:16:41] consultation on the Fairview

[1:16:43] forest has to be in conjunction

[1:16:46] with the small property, because

[1:16:50] I see them as two parts of a

[1:16:54] whole. Of one development

[1:16:56] project that has been presented

[1:16:58] by Cadillac Fairview for the two

[1:17:01] properties. The mile property,

[1:17:02] and the, so-called John Abbott

[1:17:05] lands, or Fairview forest, or am

[1:17:07] you too. At the same time, I

[1:17:11] think it's important that a

[1:17:13] number of other dimensions are

[1:17:17] off to the debate. One would be

[1:17:19] a legal summary of the case in

[1:17:24] Québec Superior Court, the

[1:17:28] lawsuit, I know that sometimes

[1:17:29] people say, well, we can talk

[1:17:32] about it because it's before the

[1:17:33] courts, but the depositions, the

[1:17:36] statement and claim of Cadillac

[1:17:38] Fairview is a public document.

[1:17:41] The statement and defensive

[1:17:42] Pointe-Claire is a public

[1:17:44] document. It would be nice if

[1:17:46] the consultation on Fairview

[1:17:49] forest and M U one had, with it,

[1:17:52] a component that summarized

[1:17:55] where we are in the courts. What

[1:17:57] is the allegation. At the same

[1:18:00] time, there is the legality with

[1:18:02] respect to the Québec Ministry

[1:18:03] of Environment. Which, I think,

[1:18:07] is issuing a certificate of

[1:18:10] authorization to Cadillac

[1:18:11] Fairview to build. Is that true?

[1:18:13] I mean, we would want to know

[1:18:16] that. We would also want to know

[1:18:19] a couple of other things.

[1:18:20] >> You are implying things that

[1:18:21] aren't necessarily the case, Mr.

[1:18:23] Johnson. There's discussion

[1:18:24] about the wetlands, if that is

[1:18:25] what you are referring to. There

[1:18:30] is, as referring to your -- I

[1:18:33] like your comment about Mu1 and

[1:18:36] Mu2 and the relationship between

[1:18:38] the two. I completely concur,

[1:18:40] and Mr. Johnson, that was your

[1:18:41] last one, by the way. And I

[1:18:44] completely -- Mr. Johnson, no,

[1:18:47] Mr. Johnson -- you have had

[1:18:49] ample time.

[1:18:50] >> Okay, who can I give, is it

[1:18:53] to you or to the DG, or somebody

[1:18:55] else in Pointe-Claire, a list of

[1:18:58] the five things, I have

[1:19:01] mentioned to, I guess you will

[1:19:02] not allow me to do the next

[1:19:04] three, but I think there's five

[1:19:06] things that need to be a part of

[1:19:09] any policy document around the

[1:19:15] future --

[1:19:16] >> If you have a document that

[1:19:17] will not dominate the whole

[1:19:18] question period I would suggest

[1:19:20] that Mr. Johnson, Mr. Johnston,

[1:19:24] Mr. Johnston. You've had your

[1:19:26] last one.

[1:19:30] >> You're not even letting me

[1:19:32] talk.

[1:19:33] >> I have let you talk. Have I

[1:19:34] not let you speak? No, no -- I

[1:19:37] have not let you -- listen, Mr.

[1:19:40] Johnson, that is hardly conduct

[1:19:42] becoming of a gentlemen.

[1:19:51] I will speak to Mr. Johnson's

[1:19:52] point which I think is an

[1:19:53] important one. I agree that I

[1:19:56] don't think you can divide

[1:19:58] speaking of the green space from

[1:20:00] development. I think that the

[1:20:01] two go intricately hand in hand.

[1:20:08] One of the things that has been

[1:20:10] ignored in all of this

[1:20:12] discussion between the Kirkland

[1:20:14] project which is the old mark

[1:20:16] frost project and the potential

[1:20:19] development of Mu1. What I find

[1:20:21] intriguing about

[1:20:27] --

[1:20:36] what I find is interesting about

[1:20:38] the entire proposals pertaining

[1:20:40] to the large developments is

[1:20:42] instead of creating an

[1:20:43] artificial green space, which

[1:20:45] some of them proposed to do,

[1:20:48] where they plant trees and

[1:20:50] cement boxes, where trees are

[1:20:52] not any real environment, a real

[1:20:53] ecological environment, and will

[1:20:55] die in a ten or 15-year

[1:20:57] timeframe, it is better to keep

[1:20:59] natural green space, which is

[1:21:01] always preferable instead of

[1:21:02] making a small temporary one. I

[1:21:05] would wait prefer these

[1:21:07] developments to go up, Mu1, and

[1:21:11] the Cadillac Fairview, and they

[1:21:13] already have a perfect, natural

[1:21:15] green space to service that

[1:21:16] extensive development. Those two

[1:21:18] extensive developments. It is

[1:21:19] called the Fairview forest. And

[1:21:21] it is a natural green space

[1:21:23] already sitting there that does

[1:21:24] not need to be touched, it will

[1:21:26] service to extremely large

[1:21:29] development projects. So,

[1:21:31] there's absolutely no need to

[1:21:32] touch that, and yes, we should

[1:21:35] speak about that forest in

[1:21:36] conjunction with development.

[1:21:38] Mr. Johnston is completely

[1:21:39] correct. And they have,,

[1:21:45] according to plans, anyone does

[1:21:47] get developed, we have a natural

[1:21:48] green space that is existing, it

[1:21:51] costs nothing, and it will make

[1:21:53] everybody happy. I see no reason

[1:21:54] why that shouldn't happen, and I

[1:21:56] would love that to be discussed

[1:21:58] in our public consultation. I

[1:22:00] also think of public

[1:22:02] consultation should refer to

[1:22:05] other green spaces in

[1:22:07] Pointe-Claire that we have not

[1:22:08] discussed that should be

[1:22:10] discussed. Mr. Johnston is

[1:22:12] correct. We should, I don't

[1:22:14] think that the consultation is

[1:22:16] complete without referring to

[1:22:17] those issues, unfortunately he's

[1:22:18] no longer with us, but I concur

[1:22:20] with a lot of what he has just

[1:22:21] said. Councillor Stork, did you

[1:22:23] want to speak?

[1:22:25] >> Yes. Just to clarify a couple

[1:22:27] of small things. What he is

[1:22:30] referring to is not a tender. It

[1:22:32] will be presented to Council and

[1:22:34] Council will review that. So

[1:22:36] nothing is written in stone at

[1:22:38] this point. Secondly, the

[1:22:40] reference, for clarity once

[1:22:42] again, it is in the process as

[1:22:44] we speak. The Amar's has asked

[1:22:46] us for the initial comments,

[1:22:48] always being proposed. We have

[1:22:49] sent them back. The review

[1:22:52] process is ongoing. By the end

[1:22:54] of 2025, we will get a new P

[1:22:57] map. And the first page of the

[1:23:00] map, you go on line, all

[1:23:05] municipalities, all

[1:23:07] municipalities must adhere to

[1:23:08] the PMAD and integrate them into

[1:23:11] the zoning bylaws. So, once the

[1:23:13] PMAD is set, and I will link the

[1:23:15] last PMAD, it is not going to be

[1:23:18] fake minimum's. It is going to

[1:23:19] be hard at minimum some have to

[1:23:21] be respected. That information

[1:23:23] that I have interpreted. So it

[1:23:25] will be a different ball game.

[1:23:27] In reference to everything else,

[1:23:29] Fairview forest, get the time,

[1:23:32] we all care about the

[1:23:33] environment, when things are

[1:23:36] represented, we will digest them

[1:23:37] and they are in an open and

[1:23:39] transparent process.

[1:23:41] >> So the PMAD is a negotiable

[1:23:45] document, I've already spoken to

[1:23:47] the mayors of Kirkland and

[1:23:48] mayors of Dollard. And they have

[1:23:50] both been very satisfied with

[1:23:53] the response to their counter

[1:23:57] proposals. They pushed back on

[1:24:01] the height and density

[1:24:02] requirements and the PMAD has

[1:24:04] actually been lowered. Other

[1:24:06] cities have actually negotiated

[1:24:08] and lowered the initial

[1:24:10] specifications of the PMAD. So

[1:24:12] it is an ongoing process. So, my

[1:24:15] point with Mr. Johnson was, it

[1:24:17] is not cast in stone. So, it

[1:24:19] should not have any determining

[1:24:23] bearing on our consultation.

[1:24:25] Because it is not a firm

[1:24:27] document. We cannot predict the

[1:24:29] future or what the PMAD will

[1:24:30] come out and say. So we cannot

[1:24:33] be arranging our whole urban

[1:24:35] planning based on something that

[1:24:36] is still not official. It is not

[1:24:38] in place. So, Andre climate?

[1:24:52] - Bonjour. J'habite au huit golf

[1:24:55] Pointe-Claire. Je vais vous

[1:24:56] parler de mon voisin immédiat,

[1:24:59] qui est la six. La maison est en

[1:25:01] vente ça fait plus d'1 an. Là,

[1:25:03] présentement, il y a un nouveau

[1:25:04] propriétaire qui a fait une

[1:25:06] demande d'urbanisme pour changer

[1:25:09] les statuts de propriété ou pour

[1:25:12] faire une maison dotée. Est-ce

[1:25:14] que vous êtes au courant de ça?

[1:25:17] - Oui, Harper. Mais je pense que

[1:25:19] je ne suis pas permis de parler

[1:25:21] au sujet de ça, parce que c'est

[1:25:22] encore dans le CCU. Ce n'est pas

[1:25:25] officiel.

[1:25:30] - Sur la grue Rudolph.

[1:25:32] - Quelle adresse?

[1:25:37] - 6, le golf.

[1:25:38] - Non, on n'est pas permis. Mais

[1:25:39] je connais bien. C'est l'ancien

[1:25:41] édifice de la famille

[1:25:42] (---)

[1:25:43] . Oui, on n'est pas permis.

[1:25:44] C'est encore en train d'être

[1:25:45] décidé.

[1:25:46] - Juste comme voisins immédiats,

[1:25:48] je suis au courant de la

[1:25:50] demande, puis disons que je suis

[1:25:52] un peu inquiet. J'aimerais ça

[1:25:56] savoir exactement. J'espère que

[1:25:57] je vais le savoir assez vite.

[1:26:01] Parce que s'il y a des

[1:26:02] changements de statuts demandés,

[1:26:03] je pense que les voisins

[1:26:05] immédiats devraient être

[1:26:07] avisées, parce que c'est une rue

[1:26:08] résidentielle. C'est une maison

[1:26:10] résidentielle.

[1:26:11] - Absolument.

[1:26:12] - Est-ce que vous avez une idée

[1:26:14] quand est-ce qu'on va être

[1:26:15] avisé?

[1:26:16] - Pas exactement. Ça dépend du

[1:26:19] prochain CCU, de la prochaine

[1:26:21] réunion. Peut-être une couple de

[1:26:23] mois. Je ne suis pas certain.

[1:26:26] - Je ne voudrais pas me

[1:26:27] retrouver devant un fait

[1:26:28] accompli.

[1:26:29] - Non. Ce n'est jamais le cas.

[1:26:31] - S'il y a des changements,

[1:26:32] est-ce qu'il va y avoir des

[1:26:34] avis?

[1:26:35] - Le processus n'est pas comme

[1:26:36] ça. Il y aura une possibilité de

[1:26:39] parler à ce sujet, d'exprimer

[1:26:41] votre opinion si vous êtes

[1:26:42] contre le projet opposer.

[1:26:43] - Est-ce qu'il va y avoir des

[1:26:44] avis? O.K.. Mon autre question,

[1:26:50] c'est, le pouvoir de la ville de

[1:26:51] protection des arbres, c'est

[1:26:52] bien important. Qu'est-ce que la

[1:26:56] Ville va faire pour protéger les

[1:26:57] arbres des castors sur le bord

[1:26:58] de l'eau?

[1:26:59] (rires)

[1:27:01] - Parce que, là, depuis 1 an et

[1:27:03] demi ou 2 ans, il y a beaucoup

[1:27:07] d'arbres

[1:27:08] (inaudible)

[1:27:09] .

[1:27:10] - Le Bordeleau, c'est la

[1:27:11] responsabilité du gouvernement

[1:27:12] fédéral. Juste devant l'eau, le

[1:27:16] gouvernement fédéral. Les

[1:27:17] arbres, oui, c'est vrai. Bonne

[1:27:19] question. Je n'ai aucune idée.

[1:27:22] Do we have a beaver policy

[1:27:24] regarding protection of our

[1:27:26] shoreline? It's a very

[1:27:27] interesting question.

[1:27:28] - Non, on en a pas. On est au

[1:27:30] courant de la problématique de

[1:27:31] castor. Malheureusement, il n'y

[1:27:32] a pas beaucoup de choses qu'on

[1:27:33] peut faire rapport les trappes

[1:27:34] et quand on arrive à le faire.

[1:27:36] Vous savez qu'on ne peut pas

[1:27:38] intervenir en bande riveraine de

[1:27:39] toute façon. On a besoin

[1:27:41] d'autorisations

[1:27:42] gouvernementales. Mais soyez

[1:27:43] rassurés qu'on est au courant de

[1:27:45] nos petites bêtes qui se

[1:27:48] promènent sur nos rives.

[1:27:49] - Ce n'est pas trop rassurant,

[1:27:50] parce que depuis 1 an et demi,

[1:27:51] il n'y a pas grand-chose qui a

[1:27:52] été fait. Il y a beaucoup

[1:27:54] d'arbres qui ont été coupés, et

[1:27:55] pas juste des petits non plus.

[1:27:56] - C'est intéressant. Je ne suis

[1:27:59] pas spécialiste moi-même, mais

[1:28:00] je pense que les castors sont

[1:28:02] protégés aussi

[1:28:03] (---)

[1:28:04] .

[1:28:05] - Vous n'êtes pas obligé de les

[1:28:06] tuer. Ils peuvent être

[1:28:07] relocalisés ou protégés d'une

[1:28:08] autre manière.

[1:28:09] - Peut-être. Il y aura des

[1:28:10] solutions. Je ne sais pas

[1:28:11] exactement qu'est-ce qu'on peut

[1:28:12] faire, mais je peux faire mes

[1:28:14] recherches. Je peux déterminer

[1:28:16] ça. C'est intéressant. Merci,

[1:28:18] Monsieur.

[1:28:19] - Merci. Did I say that right,

[1:28:24] Jeremy? Jeremy -- Canada.

[1:28:30] Danielle month at the?

[1:28:34] (inaudible)

[1:28:35] - Daniel Montpetit.

[1:28:42] - Bonsoir, conseillères et

[1:28:44] conseillers. Je suis déçu pas

[1:28:45] mal de l'envergure, de la

[1:28:48] tournure des questions, vous

[1:28:49] engueule, et tout ça. On est

[1:28:50] plus à la petite école. Si vous

[1:28:52] ne vous aimez pas, c'est bien

[1:28:53] beau. Vous ferez ça dans la

[1:28:55] chambre en arrière. Nous autres,

[1:28:56] on n'a pas besoin d'entendre vos

[1:28:59] commentaires, parce que c'est

[1:29:00] vraiment

[1:29:01] (---)

[1:29:02] et ce n'est pas le fun,

[1:29:03] premièrement. Deuxièmement, moi,

[1:29:04] je viens ici pour les personnes

[1:29:05] âgées. Je le sais que la Ville

[1:29:06] de Pointe-Claire en fait

[1:29:07] beaucoup pour les personnes

[1:29:08] âgées. C'est une belle job

[1:29:09] qu'ils font. Je suis bien

[1:29:10] d'accord. Mais on appelle les

[1:29:11] personnes âgées une fois par

[1:29:14] semaine pour jaser, nous tenir

[1:29:15] au courant, tout ça. Mais quand

[1:29:16] on appelle et ils ne répondent

[1:29:18] pas, pourquoi on n'envoie pas

[1:29:20] quelqu'un regarder tout de suite

[1:29:21] au lieu d'attendre?

[1:29:22] - On envoie.

[1:29:23] - Non, on appelle le lendemain.

[1:29:25] Après, on envoie.

[1:29:26] - Est-ce que c'est vrai, Madame

[1:29:28] Verdon?

[1:29:32] - Bien oui, bien oui. Je ne

[1:29:33] compte pas de menteries, moi.

[1:29:34] - La journée après?

[1:29:35] - Oui. On appelle la journée

[1:29:37] même. S'ils ne répondent pas, on

[1:29:38] attend au lendemain. Là, on va

[1:29:41] les rappeler. Je sais que ça

[1:29:43] peut arriver qu'on ne l'appelle

[1:29:45] pas aussi, mais qu'on appelle la

[1:29:46] journée et on appelle le

[1:29:48] lendemain, on a appelé, envoyer

[1:29:50] quelqu'un. Parce que peut-être

[1:29:51] qu'il est arrivé quelque chose.

[1:29:52] - On avait fait ça. Le

[1:29:55] verglas...

[1:29:56] - Peut-être avec le verglas dans

[1:29:57] le temps.

[1:29:58] - Dans le verglas, on a fait ça.

[1:29:59] - Ça devrait continuer tout le

[1:30:00] temps. Ce serait une bonne

[1:30:01] affaire. Je vais là moi aussi

[1:30:02] bientôt et j'aimerais

[1:30:03] (inaudible)

[1:30:04] .

[1:30:05] - Je comprends.

[1:30:06] - Merci beaucoup. C'était tout.

[1:30:07] - Merci. Non, c'est vrai. We

[1:30:16] actually have been trying to

[1:30:19] compile, Mr. Daniel Montpetit,

[1:30:21] we've been trying to compile a

[1:30:23] list of citizens who lived alone

[1:30:25] and houses. Because you can get

[1:30:28] to seniors homes and help them,

[1:30:30] but the worrisome ones are the

[1:30:31] ones who are in their homes. And

[1:30:33] those are the ones we have to

[1:30:34] follow up on. And we've actually

[1:30:36] been trying to compile a list,

[1:30:40] the colleagues have been in

[1:30:41] touch with me on that one, and

[1:30:42] we're trying to compile a list

[1:30:44] of seniors living in homes,

[1:30:47] because they are the ones that

[1:30:48] can fall through the cracks. So

[1:30:49] you are absolutely right. And we

[1:30:51] are aware that. And public

[1:30:53] security actually, it's where a

[1:30:55] lot of them are. But point

[1:30:57] taken, point well taken.

[1:31:01] >> My neighbour --

[1:31:02] [Inaudible]

[1:31:05] Not old enough yet.

[1:31:07] - C'est quoi l'âge? Il est assez

[1:31:11] vieux.

[1:31:13] (rires)

[1:31:14] Il est assez vieux, je pense.

[1:31:17] Jérémy Lucien. Bonjour, tout le

[1:31:24] monde. Je vais vous demander

[1:31:25] s'il y avait eu une mise à jour

[1:31:26] par rapport à la demande de

[1:31:27] contrats pour la consultation.

[1:31:29] Si je comprends bien, ça n'a pas

[1:31:31] été approuvé encore pour la

[1:31:34] consultation pour les espaces

[1:31:35] naturels ou la forêt Fairview.

[1:31:38] Je veux juste savoir s'il y a

[1:31:39] une mise à jour.

[1:31:43] - Comme il a été dit un peu plus

[1:31:44] tôt, c'est un projet qu'on doit

[1:31:46] soumettre au conseil municipal

[1:31:47] dans les prochaines semaines. On

[1:31:49] attendait la fin de la cinquième

[1:31:52] consultation disputé avec le

[1:31:53] consultant puis voir la suite

[1:31:54] des choses.

[1:31:55] - O.K.. Je voulais m'assurer de

[1:31:56] bien comprendre. Parfait.

[1:31:58] Deuxième chose que je n'avais

[1:31:59] pas mentionné aujourd'hui, parce

[1:32:03] qu'il y a d'autres résidents qui

[1:32:04] leur mentionner: il y a un gros

[1:32:05] projet des développements sur le

[1:32:07] coin de Mail Rowe et Lake Shore.

[1:32:08] Je pense que, monsieur

[1:32:10] Bissonnette, ça va district. Il

[1:32:11] a des déchets partout par terre.

[1:32:13] Il y a du plastique rendu dans

[1:32:14] l'eau, dans les arbres du

[1:32:16] chantier de construction. C'est

[1:32:17] vraiment un gros dégât. J'allais

[1:32:18] enfin vous envoyez un courriel

[1:32:19] par rapport à ça. Parce qu'il y

[1:32:21] a d'autres résidents qui en ont

[1:32:23] parlé, chez le mentionne

[1:32:24] aujourd'hui. Là, c'est certain

[1:32:25] qu'il y en a dans l'eau. Il y a

[1:32:26] du plastique et des déchets

[1:32:27] partout dans l'aussi. Si c'est

[1:32:31] possible d'aller vérifier ça ou

[1:32:34] gestes, en tout cas, de faire

[1:32:35] passer quelqu'un pour s'assurer

[1:32:36] que les déchets ne se rendent

[1:32:37] pas jusque dans l'eau, que les

[1:32:39] sites de construction sont bien

[1:32:40] nettoyés comme il faut pour ne

[1:32:41] pas qu'on ait de problème. S'il

[1:32:42] y a des gens qui jettent des

[1:32:44] déchets par terre n'importe où,

[1:32:46] ça, c'est une amende

[1:32:49] directement. Il me semble que

[1:32:50] c'est quasiment la même affaire.

[1:32:52] Donc je me demandais si ce

[1:32:53] serait possible de regarder ça.

[1:32:56] - Oui, c'est possible. Merci

[1:32:58] pour votre intervention. Je suis

[1:33:01] d'accord. Je n'aime pas ça du

[1:33:02] tout, du tout. On peut vérifier

[1:33:05] ça. On peut envoyer des

[1:33:07] inspecteurs souvent pour

[1:33:10] vérifier ça. Je m'excuse. I'm

[1:33:12] sorry for that.

[1:33:13] Ce n'est pas bon. >> I've just

[1:33:14] been seeing it all winter, and I

[1:33:17] keep meeting to send an email.

[1:33:18] And the residents brought it up

[1:33:19] today. So I just thought I would

[1:33:21] mention it, the plastic is

[1:33:23] everywhere. It's hanging in the

[1:33:24] trees and the bushes.

[1:33:26] - Ça me frustre. It's been an

[1:33:27] issue for a year now.

[1:33:29] Okay, thank you.

[1:33:30] - Merci beaucoup. O.K.. >>

[1:33:36] Coming that Lewandowski. Camilla

[1:33:37] (---)

[1:33:38] . Okay, you're done?

[1:33:43] >> Alicia right.

[1:33:52] - Bonsoir, tout le monde.

[1:33:55] >> Good evening everyone, to our

[1:33:57] Mayor and our council members,

[1:33:58] and the citizens of

[1:33:59] Pointe-Claire. So I am from --

[1:34:01] apostolic church. Thank you

[1:34:04] Council woman for the note of

[1:34:06] thanks. It's our endeavour to

[1:34:08] work in the Pointe-Claire

[1:34:10] community and beyond the

[1:34:11] boundaries of Pointe-Claire

[1:34:12] because we see there are issues

[1:34:13] and ways we can support our

[1:34:15] citizens. One of the things our

[1:34:17] church is currently expanding

[1:34:19] through its bountiful blessings

[1:34:21] arm is we have expanded our

[1:34:22] feeding mission, our food

[1:34:23] mission. Bénédiction abondantes.

[1:34:26] So it was previously we would go

[1:34:28] downtown and feed homeless men

[1:34:29] and women once a month, because

[1:34:31] previously, we were not in the

[1:34:33] Pointe-Claire area. But we've

[1:34:35] expanded now that we've moved to

[1:34:36] Pointe-Claire. We just recently

[1:34:38] partnered with second harvest to

[1:34:40] be able to pick up food from

[1:34:43] various organizations that are

[1:34:45] saying they have food that needs

[1:34:46] to be collected or else it will

[1:34:48] be thrown out. Since January, we

[1:34:51] were able to provide 361

[1:34:54] homeless persons between

[1:34:56] Pointe-Claire two downtown with

[1:34:59] food. In the month of March

[1:35:00] alone, whatever able to support

[1:35:02] 30 to low income families. As

[1:35:06] well as feeding teams, her

[1:35:08] providing sandwiches, breakfast

[1:35:11] sandwiches, two teenagers in

[1:35:12] high school. What we wanted to

[1:35:13] know is how we could collaborate

[1:35:16] with the City of Pointe-Claire

[1:35:17] to further help, further expand

[1:35:19] our existing mission? Because we

[1:35:21] are well aware that food

[1:35:23] insecurity is a great issue, as

[1:35:24] we know. Oftentimes the thought

[1:35:26] is in the West Island this is

[1:35:28] not the case, but it is the

[1:35:29] case. We are seeing the numbers.

[1:35:31] So we want to know if there's a

[1:35:33] possibility we can clap rate

[1:35:34] with the city to expand. One of

[1:35:36] the things we are trying to do

[1:35:37] right now, and I was actually

[1:35:38] here earlier today, is we are

[1:35:41] trying to rebuild what was the

[1:35:44] previous kitchen in our church.

[1:35:46] So we wanted to try and meet the

[1:35:48] needs, we wanted to build a

[1:35:49] commercial kitchen. It's proven

[1:35:50] to be extremely difficult and

[1:35:53] extremely difficult with the age

[1:35:54] of our building. We have been

[1:35:55] working on this since January.

[1:35:58] We were able to obtain the plans

[1:36:00] for the church, which our

[1:36:03] architect is having a hard time

[1:36:04] being able to see, because it's

[1:36:05] in a very old document. But we

[1:36:08] wanted to know what we can do to

[1:36:10] work together to support our

[1:36:11] community, especially our

[1:36:13] seniors, because we recognize

[1:36:14] they are often -- there in this

[1:36:17] catchment as well.

[1:36:20] >> Well, just right off the bat,

[1:36:22] I can think of a few

[1:36:24] organizations that we would work

[1:36:25] with that are already doing

[1:36:27] exactly that, that you would

[1:36:28] want to link up with. I would do

[1:36:31] the -- of the southwest of the

[1:36:32] island would be one that I

[1:36:33] recommend. Table de quartier sud

[1:36:34] de l'ouest de l'île. Crever de

[1:36:38] pain -- Would be another. The

[1:36:39] West Island Mission is a good

[1:36:42] organization. There are others.

[1:36:45] There are other organizations

[1:36:47] that are already on the ground

[1:36:49] doing that, and it's a great and

[1:36:50] issued if. You can link up with

[1:36:52] them. Or you can somehow

[1:36:55] negotiate or work out something

[1:36:57] overtime as well. But these are

[1:36:58] established organizations who

[1:37:00] you may want to link up with and

[1:37:01] work with.

[1:37:02] >> Okay, and we are very willing

[1:37:05] to collaborate on any levels,

[1:37:07] but we also recognize that those

[1:37:09] same organizations are also

[1:37:12] struggling in some ways, whether

[1:37:14] it be a reduction in donations,

[1:37:17] I know for the West Island

[1:37:18] Mission, when I last checked

[1:37:19] their website, they were still

[1:37:20] asking for donations to help

[1:37:21] fill their shelves because

[1:37:23] donations are low. So that's why

[1:37:26] I am asking, how can we partner

[1:37:27] with the City, if there are

[1:37:29] funds available or other means

[1:37:31] we are not aware of so that we

[1:37:32] can all work towards this

[1:37:35] important need.

[1:37:37] >> Well, organizations

[1:37:38] frequently right to the city and

[1:37:41] consult and see if they are

[1:37:43] available for subsided station

[1:37:45] from the City. You can certainly

[1:37:46] do that. You can certainly

[1:37:48] apply.

[1:37:49] >> Thank you. And my second

[1:37:51] question, I was really happy to

[1:37:52] hear there is a process by which

[1:37:54] seniors are contacted once a

[1:37:56] week. I wanted to know who is

[1:37:58] contacting the seniors, is it

[1:38:00] the local CLSC's? How does it

[1:38:03] work, and are there more

[1:38:05] volunteers needed maybe to amp

[1:38:06] up the number of calls? I know

[1:38:08] we have our youth that was maybe

[1:38:09] willing to participate in that,

[1:38:10] because again, there are so many

[1:38:12] seniors that are on their own.

[1:38:15] And it's even to go for a visit

[1:38:16] once a week, we've had a senior

[1:38:19] who came to our pancake

[1:38:20] breakfast in February, she came,

[1:38:22] she called us on a Sunday

[1:38:23] morning and came down because

[1:38:24] she was in terrible distress. So

[1:38:26] I realized that there is a need

[1:38:28] maybe for more support. So I

[1:38:30] just wanted to know who is in

[1:38:32] charge of those phone calls and

[1:38:33] if there's a way that we can

[1:38:34] help.

[1:38:35] >> Well, I will just say that we

[1:38:37] do have internally we have aid

[1:38:39] for seniors, which is a program

[1:38:42] specifically designed to look

[1:38:43] after the special needs of

[1:38:45] seniors. And it's quite an

[1:38:46] effective program. You could

[1:38:48] contact them. There is nothing

[1:38:50] stopping you from compiling your

[1:38:51] own list as well. I know we do

[1:38:54] it as a city. I believe we have

[1:38:56] a phone list of seniors that we

[1:38:59] follow up on.

[1:39:00] >> Yes, they have to register

[1:39:01] through the city. It's city

[1:39:04] employees that -- aid for

[1:39:08] senior.

[1:39:10] - Donc il faut, eux, qu'ils

[1:39:11] s'enrichissent, qu'ils

[1:39:12] s'inscrivent pour être appelés.

[1:39:14] Donc s'ils ne connaissent pas

[1:39:16] l'information, ça veut dire

[1:39:17] qu'ils sont inaccessibles.

[1:39:19] - C'est ça, exactement. Pour

[1:39:21] faire les listes, je vous

[1:39:22] conseillerais peut-être

[1:39:23] d'appeler demain à la Ville et

[1:39:25] de demander à parler avec le

[1:39:27] département, justement, de

[1:39:28] l'aide au troisième âge, qui

[1:39:30] vont pouvoir vous répondre et

[1:39:31] faire les liens nécessaires vers

[1:39:34] votre organisation aussi pour

[1:39:35] tous les programmes que nous

[1:39:36] avons.

[1:39:37] - Parfait, merci beaucoup.

[1:39:39] - Merci. Il reste une. We're

[1:39:41] running out of time.

[1:39:44] >> Leslie --

[1:39:46] >> Seven minutes left, Mister

[1:39:47] Mayor.

[1:39:48] - Merci, Madame. >> Thank you,

[1:39:50] Madam.

[1:39:53] >> Thank you, Pat. Nice, thanks.

[1:40:01] [Laughter]

[1:40:03] I just am trying to get a bit

[1:40:07] more clarification in regards

[1:40:10] to, as we know, the governments

[1:40:14] are subsidizing elderly home

[1:40:17] care, private further own -- for

[1:40:20] their own private use of their

[1:40:21] own residences. And I am

[1:40:24] wondering if the regulations on

[1:40:27] bylaws are the regulation itself

[1:40:30] about having someone living in

[1:40:33] one's residence accepted because

[1:40:39] I think quite a few years ago,

[1:40:41] I've read in some of our bylaws

[1:40:43] here that there was a

[1:40:45] restriction in regards to the

[1:40:50] qualification or the type of

[1:40:51] person that would be allowed to

[1:40:54] be a resident in the elders home

[1:41:02] privately to provide 24/7 care

[1:41:05] for an elder. And the bylaw

[1:41:11] stipulated that it had to be a

[1:41:12] family member. Is there any

[1:41:15] exemption possible for that to

[1:41:16] have someone hired or not by the

[1:41:21] elder to be able to share, let's

[1:41:25] say, the home occupancy in one

[1:41:29] area of residence to provide the

[1:41:34] service to the elder without any

[1:41:37] hindering or any problems?

[1:41:40] >> Offhand, I'm surprised. I

[1:41:43] don't believe that's true. I

[1:41:44] don't know if actually -- I'm

[1:41:47] not one hunted percent

[1:41:51] confident. I find -- I'm pretty

[1:41:52] sure that's a private matter.

[1:41:54] And you can hire caregivers,

[1:41:56] elder citizens can hire private

[1:41:59] caregivers.

[1:42:00] >> Okay.

[1:42:01] >> I'm pretty sure that the

[1:42:02] freedom to do that in their own

[1:42:03] homes. I would be surprised if

[1:42:04] the city was intervening on

[1:42:05] that. I don't know for sure, but

[1:42:08] it comes across as a surprise to

[1:42:10] me. Do either of you know

[1:42:12] anything about that? No. So I'm

[1:42:16] not sure that's correct, sir. I

[1:42:19] don't think so.

[1:42:21] >> I thought I had seen that in

[1:42:23] some of the bios, but maybe it

[1:42:25] was retrieved or changed with an

[1:42:28] amendment or something. And then

[1:42:30] it doesn't appear anymore. So I

[1:42:33] just wanted to make sure that

[1:42:34] it's okay, let's say, for me in

[1:42:37] my own private property to hire

[1:42:41] someone to be there 24/7 for me.

[1:42:46] And having no problems in regard

[1:42:48] to addressing remuneration that

[1:42:51] person in parts of the residence

[1:42:55] occupancy that might allow for

[1:42:57] that person to have in order to

[1:42:59] serve me.

[1:43:00] >> The only obstacle I can

[1:43:02] possibly see is that the person

[1:43:03] is not a legal resident, or that

[1:43:05] there may be some kind of law.

[1:43:07] And I'm not even sure that's

[1:43:09] true. I'm not even, sure I don't

[1:43:11] have the command of the law on

[1:43:12] that. But I don't think we have

[1:43:14] any laws in place.

[1:43:15] >> Me neither, I don't know. So

[1:43:17] if it's possible to clarify that

[1:43:20] in some way, somehow, that it's

[1:43:25] okay. Or as we are talking, now

[1:43:27] that it should be.

[1:43:28] >> We can look into that, for

[1:43:31] sure. Thank you, sir. Okay.

[1:43:37] Monsieur le Maire, juste deux

[1:43:39] secondes. Monsieur Clermont, je

[1:43:41] vous invite à venir me revoir

[1:43:43] après la rencontre. Vous en

[1:43:45] savez pas mal plus que moi, puis

[1:43:48] si vous prenez une chance de

[1:43:51] passer pour la prochaine fois

[1:43:52] que vous allez venir poser une

[1:43:54] question, vous allez passer pour

[1:43:55] une plante peut-être. Merci.

[1:44:04] - 5.1, je pense.

[1:44:08] - 5.1 Adoption d'un règlement

[1:44:09] modifiant le Règlement PC-2962

[1:44:10] décrétant les tarifs exigibles

[1:44:11] pour le financement de biens,

[1:44:13] services et activités offerts

[1:44:14] par la Ville de Pointe-Claire

[1:44:15] pour l'exercice financier 2024.

[1:44:17] Les modifications consistent

[1:44:19] notamment en l'ajout des frais

[1:44:20] de location pour des salles de

[1:44:22] Stewart rares pour les groupes

[1:44:24] communautaires qui veulent

[1:44:25] effectuer des activités de levée

[1:44:26] de fonds et le retrait des frais

[1:44:27] de compostage, qui est

[1:44:29] dorénavant gratuit.

[1:44:32] >> Do I have a mover? And a

[1:44:36] seconder? All in favour?

[1:44:41] - Juste un instant. Yeah, hold

[1:44:43] on.

[1:44:52] 6.1, and here to the Adhere to

[1:45:00] the Federation of Canadian

[1:45:01] Municipalities'

[1:45:02] (FCM)

[1:45:03] initiative to counter the

[1:45:04] federal infrastructure funding

[1:45:05] deficit in relation to

[1:45:06] population growth.

[1:45:07] Municipalities that are members

[1:45:08] of the Federation of the

[1:45:09] Canadian Municipalities, also

[1:45:10] known as the FCM, are calling on

[1:45:11] the federal government increases

[1:45:13] federal assistance by setting up

[1:45:14] funds and programs to help

[1:45:15] municipalities meet the

[1:45:18] responsibilities. 6.2 Autoriser

[1:45:20] la ville de Pointe-Claire à

[1:45:21] prêter des équipements à

[1:45:22] Corbeille de pain. La liste du

[1:45:24] matériel de Mandela suivante:

[1:45:25] six barils, 85 conte de

[1:45:28] signalisation, 25 tables de

[1:45:29] pique-nique et huit tente.

[1:45:31] Authorize the City of

[1:45:32] Pointe-Claire to lend equipment

[1:45:33] to the Strangers in the Night

[1:45:34] Foundation. The list of

[1:45:38] equipment is as false, 20

[1:45:39] barricades, 40 traffic on, 40

[1:45:41] recycling, the 40 compost bin,

[1:45:43] to bag flow -- preventive

[1:45:45] elsewhere hydrate connections.

[1:45:47] - 6.4 Autoriser la participation

[1:45:48] de 8 membres du conseil au

[1:45:49] Festival de Blues de

[1:45:50] l'Ouest-de-l'Île devant se tenir

[1:45:51] le 30 mai 2024. Les billets sont

[1:45:55] 125 dollars chacun et la vente

[1:45:57] des billets sera versé à des

[1:45:59] organismes à but non lucratif.

[1:46:05] 6.5 Consider a request for

[1:46:06] revision pertaining to the

[1:46:07] decision of the Demolition

[1:46:08] Committee regarding the

[1:46:09] immovable located at 12

[1:46:10] Coolbreeze Avenue. The

[1:46:11] demolition committee's decision

[1:46:13] was previously approved, the

[1:46:15] demolition and the

[1:46:16] revitalization program for the

[1:46:17] -- Council tonight will either

[1:46:19] tonight confirm said decision or

[1:46:21] make the changes.

[1:46:27] - 6.6 Considérer une demande de

[1:46:28] révision portant sur la décision

[1:46:29] du comité de démolition visant

[1:46:30] l'immeuble situé au 13, avenue

[1:46:31] Julien. La décision du comité

[1:46:34] démolition est à l'effet

[1:46:35] d'approuver la démolition et de

[1:46:37] refuser le programme de

[1:46:39] (---)

[1:46:40] du sol dégagé. Alors, à l'instar

[1:46:43] du point précédent, le conseil,

[1:46:45] ce soir, doit maintenir la

[1:46:47] décision du comité de démolition

[1:46:49] vous rendre la commission que le

[1:46:51] comité aurait dû rendre.

[1:46:52] - Alors, avant de voter, madame

[1:46:54] Thibault, est-ce que c'est

[1:46:55] possible de parler au sujet de

[1:47:00] 6.1, je pense qu'on peut

[1:47:01] expliquer un peu.

[1:47:02] - Oui, une explication a été

[1:47:04] donnée a 6.1.

[1:47:07] >> Do you want me to read it

[1:47:08] again?

[1:47:09] - Oui, s'il vous plaît. Plus

[1:47:11] lent.

[1:47:12] - La dernière? Oui, attendez un

[1:47:15] instant.

[1:47:29] >> I'm sorry.

[1:47:30] - Non, non, je m'excuse.

[1:48:05] Sorry, I think problem with my

[1:48:08] computer.

[1:48:16] - Je peux essayer moi-même,

[1:48:18] Madame Thibault, si vous voulez.

[1:48:20] J'ai quelque chose.

[1:48:28] >> In English?

[1:48:30] - N'importe quelle langue, oui.

[1:48:33] It was the last, where was, it

[1:48:35] the Canadian community building

[1:48:37] fund, which was founded as the

[1:48:39] federal gas tax fund, provide

[1:48:41] more than two billion in annual

[1:48:43] capital funding to

[1:48:45] municipalities through

[1:48:46] predictable allocation mechanism

[1:48:50] -- all sides use the CCBF to

[1:48:53] deliver direct results for

[1:48:55] Canadians by building and

[1:48:57] removing critical car public

[1:48:59] infrastructure, including water

[1:49:01] -- public transit in communities

[1:49:03] and cultural and recreational

[1:49:05] facilities.

[1:49:06] >> This is the last paragraph,

[1:49:08] I'm sorry, in the resolution

[1:49:09] that we will send to the federal

[1:49:14] government. And several

[1:49:15] municipalities, members of FCM,

[1:49:18] will do as well.

[1:49:19] - O.K., Merci beaucoup. Alors,

[1:49:23] 6.6, il faut que j'explique.

[1:49:33] >> 6.5, it is, just maybe for

[1:49:35] the public and people at home,

[1:49:39] what is the conclusion of

[1:49:40] Council regarding this decision

[1:49:43] from the motion Committee? So is

[1:49:44] it to confirm or overturned? And

[1:49:46] the same applies to 6.6, please.

[1:49:48] >> Okay, I can speak to 6.6 for

[1:49:52] 13 Julien, where there was the

[1:49:57] demolition was approved, the

[1:49:59] initial demolition was approved.

[1:50:01] But the replacement project was

[1:50:03] not approved and sent back to

[1:50:05] the CCU or the pack committee,

[1:50:08] which then returned it back to

[1:50:09] Council. And we have, Council

[1:50:12] has approved the project. So we

[1:50:15] are voting for the approval of

[1:50:17] both the demolition and the --

[1:50:21] project in 6.6.

[1:50:25] >> And 6.5, my comprehension is

[1:50:28] that you confirmed the decision

[1:50:29] from the demolition company?

[1:50:31] >> We, did as a Council.

[1:50:33] >> Council confirmed the

[1:50:35] decision. You will vote on that

[1:50:37] confirmation, right?

[1:50:38] >> Yes. Okay. Pour 6,1 6,6.

[1:50:41] Do I have a mover? - Claude

[1:50:45] Cousineau, district un. Claude

[1:50:47] Cousineau.

[1:50:49] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[1:50:50] district three.

[1:50:52] >> All in favour?

[1:51:01] >> 7.1 to File the minutes of

[1:51:04] the January 24, 2024, meeting of

[1:51:05] the Stewart Hall Advisory Board.

[1:51:08] - 8.1 Adopter une Politique

[1:51:09] d'aide financière - soutien aux

[1:51:10] associations de marchands. La

[1:51:12] Ville de Pointe-Claire souhaite

[1:51:13] adopter une politique pour

[1:51:15] l'autorisation d'une aide

[1:51:16] financière pour le développement

[1:51:17] des associations de marchands

[1:51:19] pour le noyau villageois de

[1:51:21] Pointe-Claire et de Valois afin

[1:51:22] de soutenir des projets pour le

[1:51:24] développement et la vitalité de

[1:51:25] ces milieux. Les modalités de

[1:51:27] demandes et des versements de

[1:51:28] l'aide financière sont contenues

[1:51:29] dans la politique. Le maximum

[1:51:31] d'aide financière qui pourrait

[1:51:33] être octroyée et de 25000

[1:51:35] dollars par année.

[1:51:37] - Alors, pour 8.1.

[1:51:39] Do I have a mover? - Claude

[1:51:43] Cousineau, district 1. Seconder?

[1:51:46] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[1:51:47] >> And I just speak briefly to a

[1:51:49] point, what the merchants

[1:51:51] associations about Valois in

[1:51:53] Pointe-Claire village will be a

[1:51:54] pleased with this. Because what

[1:51:55] has happened is they no longer

[1:51:57] have to go through a political

[1:52:00] process every year. This is a

[1:52:02] administrative process. They get

[1:52:03] to apply. There is an

[1:52:05] application that they submit

[1:52:06] every year for this type of

[1:52:09] funding, with a maximum

[1:52:11] contribution of 75% of the total

[1:52:13] cost of a project, up to a

[1:52:15] maximum of $25,000. This may be

[1:52:19] given to support projects for

[1:52:20] the development and vitality of

[1:52:22] these villages, the commercial

[1:52:25] villages. A request must be made

[1:52:27] Jen -- the other general

[1:52:28] management or the

[1:52:29] administration. There is a form

[1:52:31] to complete and will be sent to

[1:52:33] applicants. It's become an

[1:52:34] administrative process, not a

[1:52:35] political. Once they will be

[1:52:36] very happy with. That

[1:52:37] >> Question.

[1:52:38] >> Yes.

[1:52:39] >> I'm having a bit of trouble

[1:52:40] understanding how there is a

[1:52:41] political process.

[1:52:42] >> No, not necessarily

[1:52:44] political, but they felt that it

[1:52:45] was not something that was a

[1:52:47] yearly, annual thing. They felt

[1:52:50] that it may or may not be there

[1:52:51] for them. That in other words,

[1:52:53] it might be there one year, it

[1:52:55] might not be there, depending on

[1:52:57] the mood, the prevailing mood of

[1:52:58] the time, where it is actually

[1:53:01] an administrative process that

[1:53:03] is built in that will happen

[1:53:04] every year. So that's what I

[1:53:05] meant by that.

[1:53:06] >> Thank you.

[1:53:07] >> Just a reminder, there was a

[1:53:09] mover and a seconder that hadn't

[1:53:11] been voted on.

[1:53:13] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:53:14] >> You've got a mover and a

[1:53:16] secondary, just haven't voted.

[1:53:17] >> All in favour?

[1:53:24] >> 10.1 File the list of budget

[1:53:29] amendments and the register of

[1:53:30] cheques for the period of March

[1:53:31] 2, 2024, to March 24, 2024.

[1:53:32] - 10.2 Autoriser le transfert de

[1:53:34] postes budgétaires associés à

[1:53:35] des postes de fonds parcs et

[1:53:36] terrains de jeux pour lesquels

[1:53:37] les projets, travaux ou achats

[1:53:38] d'équipement sont complétés ou

[1:53:39] annulés. Afin de combler un

[1:53:40] manque à gagner de 140000

[1:53:42] dollars dans le poste budgétaire

[1:53:43] du projet 24 - cette, réfection

[1:53:47] des équipements de jeu des parcs

[1:53:52] Lansdowne, six deux et quelques

[1:53:54] mène, un transfert de fonds est

[1:53:55] requis et proviendra des postes

[1:53:57] budgétaires de deux projets dont

[1:53:59] les fonds n'ont pas été

[1:54:00] entièrement utilisé. >> 10.3

[1:54:05] Award a contract for the supply

[1:54:06] and the delivery of clothing for

[1:54:07] managers for the year 2024, to

[1:54:09] PROMOTIONS PLUS DIVISION DE LE

[1:54:11] GROUPE D'IMPORTATION ET DE

[1:54:12] DISTRIBUTION HUGO INC., For a

[1:54:14] total amount of $ 21,519.35,

[1:54:19] taxes included, with two years

[1:54:20] in option.

[1:54:23] - 10.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

[1:54:24] un logiciel d'approbation de

[1:54:25] factures automatisé pour les

[1:54:26] années 2024, 2025 et 2026, à

[1:54:28] TOSHIBA, pour un montant total

[1:54:31] de 85067,70 $ taxes incluses.

[1:54:34] L'investissement dans le

[1:54:35] logiciel proposé pour la gestion

[1:54:36] des comptes fournisseurs sans

[1:54:37] papiers justifiée par les

[1:54:39] importantes économies de temps

[1:54:40] qu'il apportera. >> 10.5 To

[1:54:42] approve a change order to the

[1:54:43] contract entered into with

[1:54:45] MICROSOFT, for the purchase of

[1:54:47] Microsoft subscription licenses

[1:54:48] for the years 2022, 2023 and

[1:54:50] 2024, for an amount of $ 20,000,

[1:54:52] taxes included. With their new

[1:54:56] office 365 licence, we'd like to

[1:54:58] add applications and features

[1:54:59] such as co-pilot, video, and

[1:55:03] project.

[1:55:05] - Pour 10,2 jusqu'à 10,5. Do I

[1:55:09] have a mover?

[1:55:10] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:55:12] >> And second? Kelly

[1:55:14] Thorstad-Cullen, district three.

[1:55:15] >> All in favour?

[1:55:19] - 11.1 Approuver la cession du

[1:55:20] lot 6 504 495 du cadastre du

[1:55:22] Québec à des fins

[1:55:23] d'infrastructures municipales.

[1:55:25] La Ville a exigée comme

[1:55:26] condition à la construction du

[1:55:27] projet avis va condos situé au

[1:55:30] 365 Brunswick le transfert à

[1:55:32] titre gratuit d'une bande de

[1:55:33] terrains situés en face de cette

[1:55:35] adresse connu aujourd'hui sous

[1:55:36] le lot 6 504 495 du cadastre du

[1:55:40] Québec. Le but de la session et

[1:55:41] de pouvoir réaliser

[1:55:43] d'éventuelles travaux

[1:55:44] d'infrastructures municipales, à

[1:55:47] savoir une ruban de verte,

[1:55:50] kystique lave et/ou trottoir. >>

[1:55:54] 11.2 Approve an agreement to be

[1:55:55] entered into with Réseau de

[1:55:56] transport métropolitain

[1:55:57] (EXO)

[1:55:58] regarding the extension of the

[1:55:59] interruption of the prescription

[1:56:00] period. It is the interest of

[1:56:01] the parties to agree to an

[1:56:03] interruption of a limitation

[1:56:04] period concerning all sums that

[1:56:06] would be do between them in

[1:56:07] connection with the agreements,

[1:56:09] with the sharing of

[1:56:10] responsibilities for

[1:56:11] maintenance, minor and major

[1:56:12] works on the three stations

[1:56:13] covering the period from January

[1:56:15] 1st, 2019, to May 31st, 2023.

[1:56:21] >> For 11.1 to 11.2, do I have a

[1:56:24] mover?

[1:56:26] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:56:27] >> And seconder?

[1:56:28] >> I Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[1:56:30] district three.

[1:56:31] >> All in favour?

[1:56:33] - 12.1 Déposer la liste des

[1:56:34] changements au personnel par

[1:56:35] décisions déléguées pour le mois

[1:56:36] d'avril 2024. >> 12.2 Approve

[1:56:41] the list of non-delegated staff

[1:56:42] changes as of April 2, 2024.

[1:56:45] - 12.3 Approuver une

[1:56:46] modification à la Politique sur

[1:56:47] les déplacements à la demande de

[1:56:48] l'employeur. Le taux annuel de

[1:56:51] remboursement par kilomètre est

[1:56:52] indexé de 1,45%.

[1:57:00] >> Sorry about that.

[1:57:01] - Des 12,1 à 12.3.

[1:57:09] -,. >> 14.1 Exercise the renewal

[1:57:18] option provided for in the

[1:57:19] contract entered into with

[1:57:20] MELOCHE, A DIVISION OF SINTRA

[1:57:21] and CONSTRUCTION DJL, for the

[1:57:22] period of mid-March 2024 to

[1:57:25] mid-March 2025, in the amount of

[1:57:27] $ 329,679.32, taxes included for

[1:57:31] the supply and the loading of

[1:57:33] hot-mix asphalt

[1:57:34] (excluding transport)

[1:57:35] . This multi-order contract

[1:57:38] ensures the

[1:57:40] [Inaudible]

[1:57:41] Asphalt in the event of an

[1:57:43] availability from the main

[1:57:44] supply.

[1:57:45] >> For 14.1, do I have a mover?

[1:57:47] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:57:48] >> And seconder? Tremblay,

[1:57:51] district six.

[1:57:52] >> All in favour?

[1:57:55] - 14.2 Octroyer un contrat pour

[1:57:56] des travaux horticoles

[1:57:57] d'entretien et de dégagement des

[1:57:58] vues en rive pour l'année 2024,

[1:58:01] à 9317-9083 QUÉBEC INC.

[1:58:02] (FAS GESTION FLORACOM)

[1:58:03] , Pour un montant total de

[1:58:04] 45514,92 $, taxes incluses, avec

[1:58:09] l'année 2025 en option. Ce

[1:58:11] contrat d'entretien et le

[1:58:12] dégagement des vues en rives est

[1:58:14] nécessaire pour assurer les

[1:58:15] travaux de maintien de la

[1:58:16] qualité des sites riverains.

[1:58:20] 14.3 Award a contract for

[1:58:21] horticultural maintenance and

[1:58:22] planting works at an hourly rate

[1:58:23] for the 2024 season, to

[1:58:27] 9042-0845 QUÉBEC INC.

[1:58:30] (MARIO C ET FILS)

[1:58:32] , For a total amount of $

[1:58:35] 80,160.57, taxes included, with

[1:58:36] the 2025 season in option. This

[1:58:41] contract will provide

[1:58:42] maintenance at an hourly rate

[1:58:44] upon request to complete various

[1:58:46] horticultural tasks, including

[1:58:47] minions of garden beds in parks

[1:58:49] and green spaces across the

[1:58:50] city.

[1:58:52] - 14.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

[1:58:53] des travaux horticoles et de

[1:58:54] plantation aux aménagements du

[1:58:55] boulevard Hymus pour l'année

[1:58:56] 2024, à 9190-8673 QUÉBEC INC.

[1:58:58] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSENEIGE)

[1:58:59] , Pour un montant total de

[1:59:00] 118579,47 $, taxes incluses. >>

[1:59:04] 14.5 Award a contract for

[1:59:05] planting and maintenance works

[1:59:09] of trees in root ball for the

[1:59:10] year 2024, to TERRASSEMENT

[1:59:12] TECHNIQUE SYLVAIN LABRECQUE INC.

[1:59:13] , For a total amount of $

[1:59:18] 266,454.56, taxes included, with

[1:59:19] two years in option. The Works

[1:59:22] consist of planting and

[1:59:24] maintaining 40 to 50 millimetres

[1:59:26] calibre trees in root ball,

[1:59:28] being a quantity of

[1:59:29] approximately 650 trees along

[1:59:31] the streets in parks and green

[1:59:33] spaces and in natural woodlands.

[1:59:34] The contract includes a

[1:59:35] warranty, as well as watering it

[1:59:37] means for a period of two years.

[1:59:38] And the trees are supplied by

[1:59:39] the City.

[1:59:41] - 14.6 Octroyer un contrat pour

[1:59:42] la fourniture et la livraison

[1:59:43] d'arbres, à PÉPINIÈRE Y. YVON

[1:59:44] AUCLAIR ET FILS pour le Lot A et

[1:59:46] à PÉPINIÈRE JARDIN 2000 INC.

[1:59:47] Pour le Lot B, pour un montant

[1:59:48] total de 149639,96 $ taxes

[1:59:52] incluses pour le Lot A et

[1:59:54] 64673,44 $ taxes incluses pour

[1:59:57] le Lot B. Le contrat des dans

[2:00:01] promettent ces inscrit dans le

[2:00:02] programme annuel de remplacement

[2:00:03] des arbres municipaux

[2:00:05] conjointement avec le programme

[2:00:07] de remplacement des frênes

[2:00:08] abattus selon la stratégie de

[2:00:09] lutte à l'agrile du frêne adopté

[2:00:10] en 2015 par le Conseil. >> 14.7

[2:00:14] Award a contract for stump

[2:00:15] removal works for the year 2024,

[2:00:17] to ÉLAGAGE PRESTIGE INC., For a

[2:00:19] total amount of $ 190,468.27,

[2:00:22] taxes included. These works

[2:00:26] include stump removal by

[2:00:28] mulching and service restoration

[2:00:30] by general seating or software

[2:00:33] required for an approximate

[2:00:34] quantity of 335 stumps for the

[2:00:36] year 2024.

[2:00:39] - 14.8 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:00:40] des services professionnels pour

[2:00:41] l'élaboration et le suivi du

[2:00:42] plan directeur du parc naturel

[2:00:43] Terra-Cotta pour les années 2024

[2:00:44] et 2025, à NADEAU FORESTERIE

[2:00:46] URBAINE INC., Pour un montant

[2:00:48] total de 95408,37 $, taxes

[2:00:51] incluses, avec trois années en

[2:00:52] option. Le contrat consiste à

[2:00:55] élaborer le plan directeur des

[2:00:56] activités sylvicole du parc

[2:00:58] naturel Terra-Cotta et d'en

[2:01:00] faire le suivi annuel avec une

[2:01:02] fibre spécialisée en foresterie

[2:01:04] urbaine et en aménagement de

[2:01:05] boisé urbains.

[2:01:09] - De 14,10 à 14,8. Do I have a

[2:01:11] mover?

[2:01:12] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:01:13] >> And seconder?

[2:01:15] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:01:17] >> All in favour? >> 14.9 Award

[2:01:21] a contract for the supply and

[2:01:22] the delivery of chemicals for

[2:01:24] outdoor swimming pools and

[2:01:25] splash pads for the period from

[2:01:27] April 2024 to March 2026, to

[2:01:30] AQUATECHNO SPÉCIALISTES

[2:01:31] AQUATIQUES INC., For a total

[2:01:33] amount of $ 74,874.02, taxes

[2:01:36] included, with one year in

[2:01:37] option. The chemicals are

[2:01:40] required to sanitize the water

[2:01:42] and it plays an important role

[2:01:44] in the maintenance, health, and

[2:01:46] longevity of the outdoor

[2:01:47] swimming pools and splash pads.

[2:01:49] - 14.10 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:01:50] la fourniture et livraison d'une

[2:01:51] surfaceuse à glace neuf, à

[2:01:53] ROBERT BOILEAU INC., Pour un

[2:01:54] montant total de 195013,69 $,

[2:01:56] taxes incluses. Ce contrat est

[2:02:00] l'achat d'une nouvelle

[2:02:01] surfaceuse de glace pour la

[2:02:02] patinoire Bob Bernie. >> 14.11

[2:02:06] Award a contract for the

[2:02:08] replacement and the installation

[2:02:09] of service connections, to

[2:02:10] EXCAVATION D. JOMPHE, for a

[2:02:11] total amount of $ 455,031.80,

[2:02:15] taxes included. This contract

[2:02:17] provides for the replacement

[2:02:19] installation of service

[2:02:20] connections for existing and new

[2:02:22] residential buildings in the

[2:02:23] city for the year 2024. The cost

[2:02:26] of the work is calculated based

[2:02:27] on the lowest compliant bidders

[2:02:29] price and is paid for by the

[2:02:31] permit applicants.

[2:02:36] - 14.12 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:02:38] la fourniture et la livraison de

[2:02:39] peinture et microbille de verre

[2:02:40] pour le marquage de chaussée, à

[2:02:42] ENNIS PAINT CANADA ULC, pour un

[2:02:45] montant total de 36899,16 $,

[2:02:49] taxes incluses. >> 14.13 Approve

[2:02:54] a change order -- sorry, go

[2:02:56] ahead.

[2:02:57] - Excuse-moi, Danielle. Je pense

[2:02:59] que c'est de 14,9 à 14,12. To

[2:03:02] have a mover?

[2:03:03] >> District to.

[2:03:04] >> Seconder?

[2:03:05] - Claude Cousineau, district un.

[2:03:07] >> Claude Cousineau.

[2:03:08] >> All in favour?

[2:03:10] >> So now, 14.13 Approve a

[2:03:16] change order to the contract

[2:03:17] entered into with MELOCHE,

[2:03:18] DIVISION DE SINTRA, for the

[2:03:19] supply and the delivery of

[2:03:20] ready-mix concrete, for an

[2:03:21] amount of $ 12,521.75, taxes

[2:03:22] included. The public works and

[2:03:26] deliver repaired more sidewalks

[2:03:27] and curbs during the 2023 season

[2:03:29] and it's such a high volume of

[2:03:32] ready mix concrete was acquired.

[2:03:35] - 14.14 Approuver l'évaluation

[2:03:36] de rendement insatisfaisant de

[2:03:38] BIOTHEC FORESTERIE INC. Dans le

[2:03:40] cadre de la réalisation du

[2:03:41] contrat pour des travaux

[2:03:44] d'arboriculture suite au verglas

[2:03:46] pour la période de l'été à

[2:03:47] l'automne 2023. Conformément à

[2:03:50] la Loi sur les cités et villes,

[2:03:52] la ville se réserve la

[2:03:53] possibilité de refuser tout de

[2:03:55] soumission de BIOTHEC FORESTERIE

[2:03:58] INC. Pour une période de 2 ans

[2:03:59] suivant l'approbation de

[2:04:01] l'évaluation finale de rendement

[2:04:02] insatisfaisant approuvée par le

[2:04:04] Conseil. >> 15.1 Exercise the

[2:04:09] renewal option provided for in

[2:04:10] the contract entered into with

[2:04:11] NOUVELLE TECHNOLOGIE

[2:04:12] (TEKNO)

[2:04:13] INC. And A.S.I. EXPERT

[2:04:15] AQUATIQUE, for the period of

[2:04:16] April 1, 2024, to March 31,

[2:04:17] 2025, in the amount of $

[2:04:21] 98,318.02, taxes included, for

[2:04:22] the supply and the delivery of

[2:04:24] chemicals for the City's

[2:04:25] swimming pools.

[2:04:28] - 15.2 Se prévaloir de l'option

[2:04:29] de renouvellement prévue au

[2:04:30] contrat intervenu avec AV-TECH

[2:04:31] INC., Pour la période du 1 avril

[2:04:32] 2024 au 31 mars 2025, au montant

[2:04:34] de 43420,31 $, taxes incluses,

[2:04:38] pour des services d'entretien,

[2:04:39] d'inspection et de réparation

[2:04:40] des génératrices de la Ville de

[2:04:41] PointeClaire. >> 15.3 Award a

[2:04:44] contract for repetitive

[2:04:45] maintenance and repair works on

[2:04:48] concrete surfaces and paving for

[2:04:50] the years 2024-2025 and

[2:04:51] 2025-2026, to LES TERRASSEMENTS

[2:04:54] MONTREAL INC., For a total

[2:04:57] amount of $ 439,457.63, taxes

[2:05:00] included, with three years in

[2:05:01] option.

[2:05:07] - Pour 14,13 à 15,3. Do I have a

[2:05:12] mover?

[2:05:14] >> And seconder?

[2:05:16] - Le Cousineau.

[2:05:17] All in favour? - Bruno Tremblay.

[2:05:23] - 15.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:05:24] des travaux d'entretien et de

[2:05:25] réparation des systèmes

[2:05:26] mécaniques pour la période de la

[2:05:27] mi-avril 2024 à la mi-avril

[2:05:28] 2026, à AV-TECH INC., Pour un

[2:05:30] montant total de 286109,30 $,

[2:05:33] taxes incluses, avec trois

[2:05:35] années en option. >> 15.5 Award

[2:05:38] a contract for the supply and

[2:05:39] the delivery of mechanical parts

[2:05:41] for HVAC systems for the period

[2:05:44] of mid-April 2024 to mid-March

[2:05:45] 2025, to TRANE CANADA ULC, for a

[2:05:49] total amount of $ 85,858.52,

[2:05:53] taxes included, with two years

[2:05:55] in option.

[2:05:58] - 15.6 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:05:59] des services professionnels pour

[2:06:00] une étude de réaménagement

[2:06:01] interne de l'Hôtel-de-Ville, à

[2:06:03] LEMAY CO INC., Pour un montant

[2:06:05] total de 70709,63 $, taxes

[2:06:08] incluses. Les espaces actuels de

[2:06:11] travail sont en pleine capacité,

[2:06:13] ce qui restreint la croissance

[2:06:14] des départements et qui ne

[2:06:16] favorisent pas la cohésion et la

[2:06:18] collaboration des différents

[2:06:19] services. >> 16.1 Award a

[2:06:21] contract for the reconstruction

[2:06:22] of Winthrop Avenue with the

[2:06:24] addition of a bike path, between

[2:06:25] Hymus Boulevard and Jubilee

[2:06:27] Square Avenue, to CONSTRUCTION

[2:06:29] CAMARA, for a total amount of $

[2:06:33] 2,989,349.99, taxes included.

[2:06:38] - 16.2 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:06:39] l'éclairage du Jardin de

[2:06:40] lecture, à LE GROUPE LML LTÉE,

[2:06:43] pour un montant total de

[2:06:45] 72174,69 $, taxes incluses. Dans

[2:06:50] le but d'augmenter la visibilité

[2:06:51] et la sécurité du jardin de

[2:06:53] lecture à l'arrière de la

[2:06:54] Bibliothèque centrale, le comité

[2:06:55] de sécurité interne leur

[2:06:58] recommande d'installer une

[2:06:59] caméra et un lampadaire. >> For

[2:07:04] 15.4 to 16.2, do I have a mover?

[2:07:08] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:07:09] district three.

[2:07:10] >> And seconder?

[2:07:11] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:07:12] >> All in favour?

[2:07:13] - Merci. >> 16.3 Award a

[2:07:16] contract for the supply of

[2:07:17] charging stations to be

[2:07:18] installed at several locations

[2:07:19] in the City of Pointe-Claire in

[2:07:20] 2024, to ADDÉNERGIE TECHNOLOGIES

[2:07:23] INC. FLO, for a total amount of

[2:07:27] $ 265,719.87, taxes included.

[2:07:31] The selected sites are as

[2:07:32] follows, City Hall, 94 Douglas

[2:07:35] Shand, the aquatic center,

[2:07:36] public works, Edgewater park,

[2:07:38] the central library, all of

[2:07:40] Urqhart sports center. And there

[2:07:42] will be charging stations for

[2:07:43] the public and others in city

[2:07:45] employees in municipal vehicles.

[2:07:48] - 16.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:07:50] l'installation de bornes de

[2:07:51] recharge, à 130132 CANADA INC.

[2:07:52] (LAROCHELLE ÉLECTRIQUE)

[2:07:53] , Pour un montant total de

[2:07:55] 539715,65 $, taxes incluses. En

[2:07:58] mettant de l'avant ces projets

[2:07:59] avant le 15 septembre 2024, la

[2:08:01] Ville de Pointe-Claire bénéficie

[2:08:02] d'un programme de subventions de

[2:08:04] bornes de recharge

[2:08:05] d'Hydro-Québec. Le programme

[2:08:06] circuit électrique est un

[2:08:07] programme de souvent si on

[2:08:08] déborde recharge du gouvernement

[2:08:10] du Québec où les verts pour

[2:08:11] l'achat à l'installation de

[2:08:12] bornes de recharge pour

[2:08:14] l'utilisation publique et

[2:08:15] privée, la flotte et les

[2:08:16] employés dans plusieurs endroits

[2:08:17] de la ville. En tout, le montant

[2:08:19] de la subvention totalise 416000

[2:08:22] dollars. >> 16.5 Award a

[2:08:26] contract for the resurfacing of

[2:08:27] the tennis and pickleball court

[2:08:29] at Northview Park, to 9190-8673

[2:08:30] QUÉBEC INC.

[2:08:32] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSE NEIGE)

[2:08:33] , For a total amount of $

[2:08:34] 485,701.08, taxes included.

[2:08:41] As March 12th meeting, Council

[2:08:46] awarded a contract to -- but an

[2:08:51] error was discovered towards a

[2:08:53] insurance document. It is

[2:08:54] therefore necessarily to rectify

[2:08:56] the air and award the contract

[2:08:58] to the lowest bidder, in this

[2:09:00] case, being 9190-8673 QUÉBEC

[2:09:01] INC.

[2:09:02] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSE NEIGE)

[2:09:03] , For a total amount of $

[2:09:05] 485,701.08. I did you, so the

[2:09:07] City must also terminate the

[2:09:10] contract award to the previous

[2:09:11] company, and convene resolution

[2:09:14] 2094 1:19.

[2:09:15] - 16,3 à 16,5. Do I have a

[2:09:19] mover?

[2:09:20] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:09:24] - Merci. All in favour? 17.1

[2:09:27] Considérer les plans

[2:09:28] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:09:29] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:09:30] propriété située au 80, avenue

[2:09:31] Broadview. Pour un

[2:09:33] agrandissement. >> 17.2 Consider

[2:09:34] the site planning and

[2:09:36] architectural integration

[2:09:37] programme plans with respect to

[2:09:38] the property situated at 24

[2:09:39] Claremont Avenue. It is four

[2:09:41] exterior renovations.

[2:09:42] - 17.3 Considérer les plans

[2:09:43] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:09:44] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:09:45] propriété située au 20, avenue

[2:09:48] Condover pour un agrandissement.

[2:09:49] >> 17.4 Consider the site

[2:09:51] planning and architectural

[2:09:52] integration programme plans with

[2:09:53] respect to the property situated

[2:09:54] at 2 Hillside Avenue. For solar

[2:09:58] panel installation.

[2:10:00] >> For 17.1 to 17.4, do I have a

[2:10:03] mover?

[2:10:04] >> I move that Council except

[2:10:06] the site planning and

[2:10:08] architectural integration plans

[2:10:10] for 17.1 for 17.4. Brent Cowan,

[2:10:13] district eight.

[2:10:14] >> And seconder?

[2:10:16] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:10:17] district three.

[2:10:18] >> All in favour?

[2:10:23] - 18.1 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:10:24] des services professionnels pour

[2:10:25] la location d'une patinoire

[2:10:26] extérieure réfrigérée, d'un

[2:10:27] sentier extérieur réfrigéré et

[2:10:29] d'une zamboni, à SYNERGLACE

[2:10:31] CANADA INC., Pour un montant

[2:10:32] total de 374841,50 $, taxes

[2:10:36] incluses. L'Allocation est de la

[2:10:40] mi-octobre 2024 à la mi-avril

[2:10:42] 2025 avec deux options de

[2:10:44] renouvellement.

[2:10:47] - Pour 18.1.

[2:10:48] Do I have a mover?

[2:10:49] - Claude Cousineau, district un.

[2:10:51] >> And seconder? - Paul

[2:10:53] Bissonnette, district deux. All

[2:10:54] in favour?

[2:10:57] >> Against.

[2:11:07] >> 19 point, one order contract

[2:11:10] to constructions genesis for the

[2:11:12] reconstruction between -- Duke

[2:11:13] of Canada Douglas Cheng avenues

[2:11:15] for an event of 1 million

[2:11:21] $848,709.47, taxes included. A

[2:11:24] 743,000 dollar grant from the

[2:11:25] Québec's -- is attached to this

[2:11:27] project.

[2:11:29] - 19.2, octroyer un contrat

[2:11:32] concernant la reconstruction de

[2:11:33] l'avenue Mount Cris et l'avenue

[2:11:35] Millie Venne entre l'avenue

[2:11:36] (---)

[2:11:37] à excavation Grey qu'on pour un

[2:11:39] montant total de 3 millions

[2:11:40] 425752 dollars et 40 sous taxes

[2:11:44] incluses. Une subvention de 1

[2:11:45] million 675000 dollars est

[2:11:47] attaché à ce contrat provenant

[2:11:49] du programme Primeau du

[2:11:50] gouvernement du Québec.

[2:11:54] - Pour 19.1 et 19.2.

[2:12:06] All in favour? Closure, for

[2:12:09] closure to I have a mover?

[2:12:10] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:12:11] >> And seconder?

[2:12:13] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:12:14] >> All in favour?

[2:12:17] - Merci, tout le monde. Thanks

[2:12:18] everyone, have a good evening.

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2024-04-02 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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