[0:07] Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs.

[0:10] Bienvenue à la séance ordinaire

[0:11] du 1er octobre 2024 est.

[0:19] C'est avec regret que nous avons

[0:21] appris le décès d'un employé

[0:24] retraité à l'incriminer en date

[0:26] du 17 septembre dernier. Il a

[0:29] travaillé comme cols bleus à la

[0:31] Ville de Pointe-Claire pendant

[0:33] 28 ans jusqu'à sa retraite en

[0:36] 2017. Nous offrons toutes nos

[0:40] condoléances à sa famille et ses

[0:43] amis. Allen cream or worked as a

[0:45] blue collar worker for the City

[0:46] of Pointe-Claire for 28 years

[0:48] until his retirement in 2017. We

[0:50] offer our condolences to his

[0:52] family and friends. Nous avons

[0:55] appris le décès d'un ancien

[0:57] conseiller municipal, monsieur

[0:59] Denis Francis Smith le 18

[1:02] septembre à l'âge de 74 ans. Il

[1:05] a représenté les districts sept

[1:08] de 2005 à 2017. Nous allons lui

[1:12] rendre hommage à la prochaine

[1:14] séance du conseil. Nous tenons a

[1:18] bien souligné son importante

[1:20] contribution à la Ville de

[1:22] Pointe-Claire. We have learned

[1:23] of the passing of former

[1:24] municipal councillor Mr. Denis

[1:26] Francis Smith on September 18th,

[1:27] at the age of 74.

[1:31] He represented district seven

[1:33] Northview from 2005 to 2017. We

[1:37] will be paying tribute to him at

[1:39] the next council meeting. We

[1:41] will highlight his important

[1:43] contribution to the City of

[1:44] Pointe-Claire. Comme nous sommes

[1:48] à l'approche de la saison

[1:50] hivernale nous ou... nous vous

[1:52] informons que les dernières

[1:57] collecte d'encombrant de matelas

[1:59] et sommier et trois découle

[2:01] semblent très s'est vaquent

[2:02] Huron au mois d'octobre. Voici

[2:05] l'horaire des collectes. Le 2

[2:08] octobre, secteur à: matelas et

[2:12] sommier. Le 3 octobre secteurs

[2:15] Bay: matelas et sommier. Le 9

[2:18] octobre: secteur A et B

[2:21] encombrant. Le 19 octobre:

[2:24] l'écocentre de la cour des

[2:25] Travaux publics. Les branches

[2:28] seront ramassés par les équipes

[2:30] des Travaux publics sur une base

[2:34] régulière jusqu'au 31 octobre.

[2:35] Il n'est pas nécessaire d'en

[2:37] faire la demande. La collecte de

[2:41] feuilles aura lieu les lundis à

[2:42] tous les deux semaines dès le 7

[2:47] octobre entre 7 heures et 18

[2:49] heures. Alors tes journées de

[2:51] collecte, vous pourrez déposer

[2:53] vos contenants et sac des

[2:54] feuilles en papier en bordure de

[2:57] rue. Toutes ces informations se

[3:00] retrouvent sur notre site Web.

[3:04] As we approach the winter

[3:05] season, we would like to inform

[3:06] you that the last collections of

[3:07] wood and bulky items, to

[3:08] mattresses and box springs and

[3:09] three, ecocentre, will take

[3:10] place in October.

[3:15] The upcoming collections go as

[3:17] follows. October 2nd, sector a

[3:21] mattresses and box springs.

[3:22] October 3rd, sector be,

[3:24] mattresses and box springs.

[3:25] October 9th, sector A and B,

[3:29] bulky items. October 19th, the

[3:31] eco centre at the public works

[3:33] yard. Branches will be collected

[3:35] by the public works teams on a

[3:36] regular basis until October

[3:39] 31st. There is no need to call

[3:41] the city for this collection. À

[3:44] la suite de plus abondante de la

[3:45] tempête d'habits

[3:46] (inaudible)

[3:47] pour faire suite à la tempête du

[3:48] 9 août dernier qui a laissé ses

[3:49] traces dans les immeubles de la

[3:50] ville et chez plusieurs citoyens

[3:51] et citoyennes de Pointe-Claire

[3:52] et partout au Québec, je

[3:53] souhaite simplement partager

[3:54] avec vous quelques éléments

[3:55] d'information que nous sommes en

[3:56] train de regrouper à la ville.

[3:57] Leaf collections will take place

[3:58] on Mondays every two weeks

[3:59] starting on October 7th between

[4:00] 7 am and six PM. On collection

[4:01] days, leave your containers and

[4:02] or paper bags at the curb. This

[4:03] information can all be found on

[4:04] our website.

[4:29] Les événements nous ont surpris.

[4:33] Nous savions que nous attendions

[4:35] des pluies abondantes mais nous

[4:38] ne savions pas que ces pluies

[4:40] tomberait dans un si court laps

[4:42] de temps. Ces précipitations

[4:45] rapides et intenses sont

[4:47] essentiellement à la base des

[4:49] problèmes survenus.

[4:52] Présentement, nos équipes

[4:53] prévoit les plans d'urgence pour

[4:55] mieux préparer la ville à une

[4:57] prochaine urgence climatique et

[4:59] pour mieux protéger nos

[5:01] immeubles publics. Nous allons

[5:04] aussi mettre de l'avant un plan

[5:05] de communication qui viendra

[5:08] départager les responsabilités

[5:10] de la ville et celle des

[5:12] citoyens dans le cas de ces

[5:13] épisodes de crise climatique.

[5:16] Ces plan viendra donner des

[5:19] conseils et des informations aux

[5:21] personnes qui pourraient être

[5:23] affectées par des nouvelles

[5:26] intempéries. Nous devons mieux

[5:28] nous préparer et c'est notre

[5:31] volonté de vous accompagner dans

[5:33] cette préparation.

[5:37] To follow up on the storm of

[5:38] August 9th, which left its mark

[5:40] on the cities buildings and on

[5:41] many citizens of Pointe-Claire

[5:42] and throughout Québec, I would

[5:44] simply like to share information

[5:45] that we are currently in the

[5:47] process of compiling for

[5:50] residents. We know we are

[5:52] expecting heavy rainfall but we

[5:53] did not know it would fall in

[5:54] such a short period of time. The

[5:56] rapid and intensity of the

[5:58] rainfall is essentially the

[5:59] source of the problems that have

[6:01] arisen. Our teams are currently

[6:03] reviewing emergency plans to

[6:04] better prepare the city for a

[6:05] next weather emergency, and also

[6:08] to better protect our public

[6:11] buildings. We will also be

[6:13] putting forward a communication

[6:14] plan that will explain and

[6:16] separate the responsibilities of

[6:17] the City from those of citizens.

[6:20] In the event of a weather

[6:22] related danger. This plan will

[6:25] provide advice and information

[6:26] to all those affected by a

[6:28] future weather emergency. We all

[6:30] need to be better prepared and

[6:31] that is exactly what the City

[6:33] wants to help you do. Bris

[6:37] d'aqueduc majeur. Vendredi soir

[6:39] dernier, nous avons eu un bris

[6:44] d'aqueduc important d'conduite

[6:47] de 24 pouces. Plusieurs facteurs

[6:50] ont contribué à ce bris. À ce

[6:54] moment-ci, les travailleurs

[6:55] d'inspections sont terminés. Nos

[6:57] équipes collaborent avec les

[6:59] équipes de la Ville de Montréal,

[7:02] car il s'agit d'une conduite

[7:04] sous la responsabilité de

[7:08] l'agglomération. Ils sont à

[7:10] l'étape de là-bas ration du plan

[7:12] pour les réparations. Nos

[7:15] principales préoccupations était

[7:17] de redonner l'accès à l'eau

[7:19] potable à nos citoyens. À ce

[7:22] jour, une seule adresse n'a pas

[7:26] accès à l'eau. Nous devrons

[7:28] mettre sur pied une solution

[7:31] temporaire. La durée des travaux

[7:35] est à être déterminé. Nous avons

[7:38] eu un deuxième bris ce week-end

[7:40] qui a été réparé dès le

[7:44] lendemain. L'équipe des Travaux

[7:45] publics à travailler fort et je

[7:48] tiens à les remercier

[7:50] chaleureusement pour leur

[7:52] disponibilité et la qualité de

[7:53] leur travail.

[7:56] Last Friday evening, we had a

[7:57] major water break on a 24 inch

[7:59] pipe. Several factors

[8:01] contributed to this situation.

[8:03] Currently, the inspection work

[8:04] is being completed. Our teams

[8:07] are working with the crews from

[8:08] the City of Montréal as this

[8:10] pipe is under the responsibility

[8:11] of the agglomeration. They are

[8:14] in the process of drawing up a

[8:16] plan for the repairs. Our main

[8:18] concern was to restore access to

[8:20] drinking water for our citizens.

[8:22] As of today, only one address

[8:24] has no access to water. We are

[8:27] working on a temporary solution.

[8:29] The duration of the work is to

[8:31] be determined. We had a

[8:33] secondary water main break over

[8:34] the weekend, which was repaired

[8:36] the next day. The public works

[8:39] employees worked very hard and I

[8:40] would like to thank them for

[8:41] their availability and the

[8:43] quality of their work. They were

[8:44] there from the beginning it

[8:46] happened to the end, and

[8:48] nonstop. It was truly admirable.

[8:52] Action de grâces, horaires des

[8:54] services municipaux. En raison

[8:55] de la fête de l'Action de grâce

[8:57] les bureaux administratifs de la

[8:59] Ville de Pointe-Claire un et

[9:02] deux la bibliothèque publique et

[9:04] trois le Centre culturel Stewart

[9:06] Roy sera fermé le lundi 14

[9:09] octobre. Pour qu'on s'...

[9:11] consultez les horaires du centre

[9:13] aquatique de l'aréna

[9:14] (inaudible)

[9:15] est du centre sportif nous

[9:18] invitons à consulter la section

[9:20] sport et loisirs du site Web de

[9:22] la ville. Veuillez prendre en

[9:25] note qu'à compter de mardi le 15

[9:27] octobre, l'hôtel de ville et les

[9:30] services municipaux seront

[9:31] ouverts du lundi au vendredi,

[9:33] dès 8 heures 30 à 16 heures 30.

[9:37] Due to the Thanksgiving holiday,

[9:38] the City of Pointe-Claire's

[9:39] administrative offices, as well

[9:40] as the public library and

[9:41] Stewart Hall cultural centre,

[9:42] will be closed on Monday,

[9:43] October 14th.

[9:47] For specific schedules for the

[9:49] Bob-Birnie arena, aquatic

[9:51] centre, or excuse me, the

[9:52] Bob-Birnie aquatic centre and

[9:54] arena, and the Olive-Urquhart

[9:57] Sports Centre, please consult

[9:58] the sports and recreation

[10:00] section of the City's website.

[10:01] Please note that as of Tuesday,

[10:02] October 15th, City Hall and the

[10:05] administrative services will be

[10:07] open Monday to Friday from 8:30

[10:09] a.m. to 4:30 PM. Now, before we

[10:14] proceed to question period, we

[10:15] should probably begin with

[10:17] Councillor reports. Let's start

[10:19] with district eight, Councillor

[10:22] Cowan.

[10:25] >> If things degenerate there

[10:26] into a regional war, which it

[10:27] very well could, we would be on

[10:28] the cusp of a global war.

[10:29] Bonsoir, je crois qu'on peut

[10:30] procéder ce soir, si on

[10:31] réfléchit un peu à la situation

[10:32] au Moyen-Orient qui est très

[10:33] grave et très sérieuse.

[10:46] I think people should think

[10:47] about that, think about the

[10:49] consequences going forward.

[10:52] Sorry to bring that to your

[10:54] attention, but it's very serious

[10:56] what is happening right now.

[11:00] Conseiller Cousineau.

[11:05] - >> Just to add to the

[11:07] complements addressed to our

[11:10] personnel on the breakage, the

[11:15] city was really ready. It went

[11:19] as smooth as it could have. It

[11:22] was a tough situation in

[11:26] management, management played

[11:28] their role. Well, management and

[11:32] the rest of the workers were

[11:36] ready. So, I want to thank them.

[11:39] Thank you.

[11:42] >> Councillor Stainforth?

[11:46] Councillor Bissonnette?

[11:48] >> Yeah, good evening. There's

[11:51] good news for lakeshore. For

[11:53] years, we've been talking about

[11:54] the condition of the road. It's

[11:57] like a country road but it's not

[11:59] supposed to be in the country,

[12:01] with all the potholes and that.

[12:04] So, we started a program, I

[12:05] guess it was 2017, 19, and the

[12:09] idea was to start paving from

[12:11] sources road to the village. Not

[12:13] at one time but, you know, over

[12:15] a period of time. So we got up

[12:17] to rain or drive, which is about

[12:19] halfway to Milroy there and

[12:22] since then, we were not able to

[12:23] do it. There were different

[12:24] things going on, work and what

[12:26] have you in the area. So, it was

[12:28] put on hold. However, next year

[12:32] from -- drive, it'll go all the

[12:33] way to the canoe club. So, that

[12:36] will be paving, resurfacing, not

[12:40] digging up the pipes, not

[12:41] digging up anything because

[12:42] there are no water main breaks

[12:44] there. That's one of the

[12:45] downfalls of that road because

[12:46] there are no breaks. However, it

[12:48] is going to be resurfaced,

[12:51] sidewalks will be repaired if

[12:53] they were damaged, they will be

[12:55] fixed. And borders. So, that is

[12:58] good news and then in the

[13:00] future, every year we will be

[13:01] doing another section until we

[13:03] get as far as the village there.

[13:06] Les bonnes nouvelles c'est que

[13:07] sur le chemin bord du lac, ça

[13:09] fait des années qu'on se plaint

[13:10] qu'il y a une mauvaise condition

[13:12] mais un programme qu'on a débuté

[13:14] en 2017 pour le

[13:19] (inaudible)

[13:20] du chemin, on s'est rendu

[13:22] jusqu'à

[13:23] (inaudible)

[13:24] on a fait un bout de chemin.

[13:25] Ensuite, on est obligé

[13:26] d'attendre parce qu'il y a eu

[13:27] des travaux dans le secteur

[13:28] depuis quelques années. Mais là,

[13:31] l'année prochaine à partir des

[13:33] Rangers jusqu'au club de Cannes

[13:35] ça va être pavée. Les trottoirs

[13:37] vont être réparés. Ils

[13:38] n'arrachement pas les trottoirs

[13:39] ils vont réparer ceux qui sont

[13:41] endommagés et les bordures. Donc

[13:43] c'est quand même bien par la

[13:45] suite ils vont continuer les

[13:47] projets jusqu'au village. Des

[13:49] bonnes nouvelles, merci.

[13:52] Good evening.

[13:54] >> Councillor Homan? - Je

[13:56] voudrais partager quelques

[14:00] remerciements au nom de la

[14:02] conseillère

[14:03] (inaudible)

[14:04] du district de trois. Elle est

[14:05] en déplacement pour l'hôpital

[14:07] mais elle ne voulait pas manquer

[14:08] la question de remercier une

[14:12] valoir Diane qui lui est cher.

[14:13] Beaucoup d'entrevues ont aimé

[14:17] fréquenter

[14:18] (inaudible)

[14:19] pour son excellent pain, ces

[14:20] petits déjeuners, c'est sûr,

[14:21] c'est sandwich et bien plus

[14:23] encore. Ne vous inquiète pas,

[14:31] (inaudible)

[14:32] le fondateur qui en a pris sa

[14:33] retraite. Nous tenons à

[14:36] remercier Ken d'avoir participé

[14:38] à la Fondation du village

[14:40] Valois. Votre esprit est votre

[14:43] gentillesse resteront à jamais

[14:45] dans nos mémoires. Nous sommes

[14:49] sûrs que nous vous verrons

[14:51] encore dans les parages. Mais

[14:53] maintenant, en tant que

[14:54] retraité. Profitez bien de cette

[14:56] nouvelle étape de votre vie.

[14:58] Vous l'avez bien mérité. I would

[15:01] like to share some thoughts and

[15:03] appreciation on behalf of

[15:04] Councillor Kelly Thorstad-Cullen

[15:06] of district three. She's

[15:08] travelling from the hospital but

[15:09] did not want to miss the

[15:11] opportunity to share -- many of

[15:13] you have enjoyed frequenting the

[15:15] den for their terrific bread,

[15:18] breakfasts, soups, sandwiches,

[15:20] and more. And do not worry, they

[15:22] are still open but the founder,

[15:24] can, has retired, with his wife,

[15:26] meaning. We want to thank you,

[15:28] can, for being part of the

[15:29] fabric of Valois village. Your

[15:31] spirit and kindness will forever

[15:32] be remembered and we are sure

[15:34] that we will see you around, but

[15:36] now as a retiree. Enjoy this

[15:38] next phase of your life, well

[15:41] deserved.

[15:42] >> Councillor Tremblay?

[15:44] Councillor Stork?

[15:51] Bonjour à tous. Welcome to

[15:53] everybody. J'aimerais d'abord

[15:55] mentionner premièrement que le

[15:59] cinquième

[16:00] (inaudible)

[16:01] de Eriksen les menait organisée

[16:02] par Steve Cohen a permis de

[16:06] ramasser 6740 Cat dollars pour

[16:07] l'hôpital de Montréal pour les

[16:10] enfants. C'est trois fois plus

[16:12] haut, trois fois le montant

[16:14] qu'ils ont récoltés en 2023.

[16:16] Félicitations à Steve et toute

[16:17] son équipe, pour un événement

[16:19] aussi incroyable. Je vous

[16:20] recommande fortement d'y

[16:21] assister la nuit prochaine.

[16:24] Maintenant, sur une autre note

[16:25] plus sérieuse. Lors de la

[16:27] réunion publique des mois

[16:28] dernier, j'ai déclaré que gérez

[16:30] à mes préoccupations concernant

[16:32] les commentaires faits de lors

[16:34] de la réunion publique du

[16:36] conseil l'an dernier concernant

[16:37] les commentaires faites par

[16:39] rapport à l'opposition du projet

[16:41] fait par l'unanimité du conseil

[16:42] l'année dernière derrière le

[16:45] (inaudible)

[16:46] sur Saint-Jean. Il y a des

[16:47] nombreuses précisions que je

[16:48] pourrais apporter, mais je vais

[16:50] vraiment me concentrer sur la

[16:51] déclaration sur laquelle il

[16:52] aimerait voir des triplex sur un

[16:55] maximum de six étages sur ce

[16:57] site. Une telle déclaration est

[17:00] dénué dans

[17:01] (inaudible)

[17:02] financière. Lors de cette

[17:03] analyse est effectuée, elle n'a

[17:06] aucun sens. Permettez-moi de

[17:08] vous expliquer. En référence aux

[17:10] triplex et en fonction de tous

[17:11] les variables associés, grandeur

[17:14] des terrains, prix d'achat,

[17:16] coûts de construction,

[17:18] rentabilité minimal et d'autres

[17:19] éléments connexes, le nombre

[17:21] maximum des triplex pourrait

[17:23] être construit sur ce terrain

[17:25] sur dix triplex. Le coût de

[17:28] chaque triplex de 3,5 millions

[17:30] de dollars. Oui, 3,5 millions de

[17:33] dollars chaque. Financé 3,5

[17:37] millions de dollars autant

[17:38] actuelles du marché entraînerait

[17:41] un versement hypothécaire

[17:42] mensuel de dix... 17500 dollars.

[17:46] Est-ce que c'est logique? Selon

[17:48] vous? Quel sera le loyer pour un

[17:50] éventuel locataire? Il n'y a

[17:52] aucune

[17:53] (inaudible)

[17:54] financière dans un tas

[17:55] ignorions, car ces duplex ne

[17:57] vendrais jamais à 3,5 millions

[17:58] de dollars et ne serait

[18:00] certainement pas rentable. Voici

[18:02] l'un des faits relatifs à un

[18:04] immeuble de six étages au lieu

[18:05] de 12 étages. Le coût du terrain

[18:08] reste la même. Le coup du pied

[18:11] carré reste fondamentalement la

[18:12] même. Le nombre total des

[18:15] logements est pratiquement

[18:16] réduit de moitié. Lorsque toutes

[18:19] les variables sont calculées,

[18:21] l'augmentation du loyer pour une

[18:24] locataires d'un immeuble de si

[18:25] cet âge par rapport annuel de 12

[18:28] étages est un peu moins de 50%

[18:30] plus cher. Oui, 50% plus ça.

[18:35] Cela étant dit, si le loyer

[18:36] était de 1000 par mois pour un

[18:38] immeuble de 12 étages et

[18:40] seulement désormais de 3000 pour

[18:42] un immeuble de six étages.

[18:43] Est-ce que c'est faisable selon

[18:45] vous? Combien d'appartements

[18:47] seraient loués. Pas beaucoup,

[18:49] c'est sûr. Depuis, aucun

[18:51] promoteur ne pourrait obtenir le

[18:52] financement bancaire pour un tel

[18:54] projet et aucun citoyen pourrait

[18:56] se permettrait de payer les

[18:59] loyers. Il n'y a donc aucune

[19:01] faisabilité pour le bâtiment

[19:02] dessus cet âge de six dans les

[19:05] circonstances actuelles. Ma

[19:06] conclusion de cette analogie

[19:09] inquiétante, nous avons la

[19:10] responsabilité morale de mener

[19:11] les recherches appropriées, de

[19:13] faire preuve d'intelligence

[19:15] raisonnable et de ne pas

[19:17] contentés de faire des

[19:19] déclarations superficielles,

[19:21] peut-être plus par aventurer

[19:22] dénué de bon sens. S'il y a des

[19:25] questions concernant mon

[19:27] évaluation ou un besoin de

[19:28] précisions sur les commentaires,

[19:30] je serais disponible après cette

[19:31] réunion ou par email pour

[19:33] pouvoir en discuter davantage.

[19:35] Merci!

[19:37] I would first like to mention

[19:38] that the fifth adults lyrics for

[19:40] lemonade effect organized by

[19:41] Steve Cohen and his family held

[19:42] at Northview Park a few weeks

[19:43] ago raise $6,744 for the

[19:47] Montréal children's hospital. A

[19:48] small, a little event organized

[19:50] by a dad, his wife, and his

[19:52] three kids. This is three times

[19:53] the amount raised in 2023.

[19:56] Congrats to Steve and his entire

[19:57] crew for such an amazing event.

[19:59] I would strongly recommend that

[20:01] you all at and next year. Now on

[20:02] a more serious note. At last

[20:05] month's public meeting, I stated

[20:07] that I would address my concerns

[20:08] on comments made during the last

[20:10] month's Public Council meeting,

[20:12] regarding comments made in

[20:13] opposition to the project

[20:14] approved unanimously by Council

[20:16] last week being the project

[20:18] behind the second cup on St.

[20:20] John's, the affordable housing

[20:21] project. There are numerous

[20:23] clarifications to be made that I

[20:24] could address. However, I really

[20:26] want to focus on the statement

[20:28] that they would like to see

[20:29] their triplexes or a maximum of

[20:31] six storeys at this site. Such a

[20:34] statement is void of financial

[20:36] analysis and when the financial

[20:37] analysis is done, it makes no

[20:39] sense whatsoever. Allow me to

[20:41] explain. In reference to

[20:44] triplexes and based on all the

[20:45] pertaining associated variables,

[20:47] size of the lot, purchase price,

[20:49] building cost, minimal

[20:51] profitability, and other related

[20:52] elements, the maximum number of

[20:54] triplexes that could be built on

[20:55] this site would be ten

[20:57] triplexes. With the cost of each

[21:00] triplex, when all is said and

[21:01] done, would be three point $5

[21:03] million each. Yes, three point

[21:05] $5 million each. To finance

[21:07] three point $5 million at

[21:09] current market rates, it would

[21:11] result in a monthly mortgage

[21:12] payment of $17,500. Does that

[21:15] make sense? What do you believe

[21:17] the rent would be to a possible

[21:19] tenant on such a project? There

[21:20] is no financial viability to

[21:22] such a scenario, as these

[21:24] duplexes would never select 3.5

[21:25] million each and definitely

[21:27] would not be rental. Now, here

[21:29] are the facts pertaining to a

[21:30] six storey building instead of a

[21:31] 12 storey building. The cost of

[21:33] the land remains the same. The

[21:35] cost of a square foot to build

[21:36] basically remains the same.

[21:38] However, the total quantity of

[21:39] rental units is basically cut in

[21:41] half. When all these variables

[21:42] are calculated, the increase in

[21:44] the rent for a tenant in a six

[21:46] storey building, versus a 12

[21:47] storey building, is just under

[21:50] 50%. Yeah, 50%. That being said,

[21:54] if the rent were 2000 per month

[21:56] in 12 storey building, it would

[21:58] now be 3000 for a six storey

[22:00] building. Is that feasible? Not

[22:03] many, that's for sure, would be

[22:05] rented. As well, no developer

[22:06] would even get financing for the

[22:08] bank for such a project and no

[22:10] citizens could afford to rent

[22:11] them. Thus, it's clear that

[22:13] there is no feasibility for a

[22:14] six storey building at this

[22:15] location under the current

[22:17] circumstances. My closing

[22:19] statement on this matter is as

[22:21] elected officials, we have a

[22:22] moral responsibility to produce

[22:23] proper research and do

[22:25] appropriate due diligence, and

[22:26] not just make shallow comments

[22:27] that are misleading in nature

[22:29] and potentially void of common

[22:31] sense. If anyone has any

[22:32] questions on this assessment or

[22:34] requires further clarification,

[22:35] I will be available after this

[22:37] meeting or by email and we can

[22:38] talk further. Thank you. We

[22:41] >> Thank you, Councillor Stork.

[22:44] So, just as an overall comment,

[22:48] we we have quadrupled --

[22:53] neighbours introducing

[22:54] residential units, and we had

[22:56] the single highest rent increase

[22:58] in the country last year. So, no

[23:01] matter how you spin the

[23:03] economics, no matter how it

[23:05] goes, affordability seems to be

[23:07] a real challenge and I don't

[23:09] think that going higher,

[23:11] building more, and making it

[23:13] more profitable for the

[23:14] developer, will solve that

[23:16] crisis of affordability. And it

[23:18] has not in the past, and we have

[23:20] seen the evidence of that. So, I

[23:22] would simply fact check things,

[23:24] go back and look at the

[23:25] statements people have made, and

[23:27] you will see that sometimes, we

[23:29] have to prioritize the citizen,

[23:31] the citizen and the quality of

[23:33] life, as opposed to the profits

[23:34] of a developer. So, before we

[23:37] proceed into question period,

[23:40] Pour la période de questions,

[23:42] vous avez été...

[23:43] >> Can we just adopt the agenda

[23:45] first?

[23:46] >> Sorry, thanks.

[23:47] - Un verglas un, adoption de

[23:48] l'ordre du jour. >> No problem.

[23:49] >> 1.1, adoption of the agenda

[23:51] with two changes. Avec deux

[23:52] changements. The withdrawal of

[23:56] the M 6.1 in 6.2. And the second

[23:59] change is the addition under

[24:04] section, varia section of the

[24:06] following item. Soil

[24:10] decontamination, rehabilitation

[24:11] process on two lots located at

[24:15] 173, 173 C Cartier Avenue.

[24:18] Dans le cadre du programme

[24:20] climat seul plus du ministère de

[24:22] l'Environnement et de la lutte

[24:23] contre les changements

[24:24] climatiques. Alors, l'ajout du

[24:26] point 19,1 à la section varia

[24:28] projets d'économie...

[24:30] décontamination et des sols de

[24:31] deux lots situés à 173, 173

[24:34] c'est avenue Cartier dans le

[24:35] cadre du programme climat seul

[24:37] plus dans le ministère de

[24:38] l'Environnement et de la lutte

[24:39] contre les changements

[24:40] climatiques.

[24:43] >> For the adoption of the

[24:45] agenda, do I have a mover?

[24:48] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[24:50] four.

[24:51] >> And seconder?

[24:52] - Paul Bissonnette, historique

[24:53] de.

[24:55] >> All in favour?

[24:59] - Approuver le procès-verbal de

[25:01] la séance ordinaire du 3

[25:02] septembre 2024.

[25:05] >> For approving the minutes of

[25:06] the regular meeting of September

[25:08] 3rd, do I have a mover?

[25:10] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[25:12] four.

[25:13] >> And seconder?

[25:15] >> Paul Bissonnette, district

[25:17] three.

[25:18] >> All in favour? - Pour la

[25:22] période des questions, vous avez

[25:24] été accueilli à l'entrée pour

[25:25] vous inscrire à la période de

[25:28] questions. Afin de vous

[25:30] permettre de demeurer à vos

[25:32] places jusqu'à l'appel de votre

[25:35] nom, nous garderons 90 minutes

[25:37] pour la période des questions.

[25:40] Une personne à la fois au micro.

[25:42] Nous vous remercions d'attendre

[25:44] que le citoyen ait terminé de

[25:46] poser sa question et que vous

[25:47] soyez appelés avant de vous

[25:51] lever pour venir poser votre

[25:53] question. Deux, nous accordons

[25:54] la priorité aux résidentes et

[25:56] aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.

[25:59] Trois, les non-résidents

[26:02] pourront poser leurs questions

[26:03] par la suite, si le temps n'est

[26:05] pas écouler. For question

[26:08] period, you read it at the

[26:09] entrance to register for the

[26:10] question period so that you

[26:11] could remain seated until your

[26:13] name is called. You shall stick

[26:15] to the 90 minutes time limit, we

[26:17] shall stick to the 90 minute

[26:19] time limit for the question

[26:21] period. Point number one, one

[26:23] person at a time on the

[26:25] microphone. Thank you for

[26:26] waiting for a citizen to finish

[26:27] asking their question and to be

[26:29] called before you get up to ask

[26:31] yours. To, we give priority to

[26:33] Pointe-Claire residents and

[26:34] three, non residents can ask

[26:36] their questions afterwards if

[26:38] time has not run out. So, to

[26:41] begin, we will start with Mr.

[26:45] Nasr El Dabee.

[26:54] >> Good evening. First, I will

[26:55] have a comment about Mr. Eric

[26:56] Stork, what he said about the

[26:57] cost of --

[27:02] >> Well, it's question period,

[27:03] Mr. El Dabee. So, you have to

[27:05] have a prelude or preamble to

[27:07] your question. And then ask a

[27:09] question related to that

[27:11] preamble. So, you can word

[27:14] things as you wish but you have

[27:15] to have a question that follows

[27:17] up on your preamble.

[27:18] >> The question is, the

[27:25] insurance is going to pay 200,

[27:28] sorry, two billion and a half

[27:30] for all damage and claims of

[27:32] what happened on August 9th. And

[27:36] they recommended, is any city

[27:46] and risk of flooding to stop any

[27:51] building and any anything for

[27:57] the sewer and the

[28:05] to be able to handle all the

[28:10] rain and -- the second thing,

[28:16] that's what you say first, you

[28:17] stop all the expansion, all

[28:19] building. The second thing to

[28:21] avoid all that, you have already

[28:25] all our -- phone number to alert

[28:28] people from using the water

[28:31] facility because if you remember

[28:33] what happened between five PM

[28:35] and seven PM, that flood

[28:38] happened and the sewer back up

[28:40] happened. That's when it it was

[28:42] time everybody home, using the

[28:44] bathroom, and toilet, and

[28:46] shower, and washing machine,

[28:47] that's all what has happened.

[28:51] And that's what's supposed to be

[28:54] recommended to the city, risk of

[28:58] flood. So, the city is supposed

[29:00] to be, I'm just giving you an

[29:01] idea of what the insurance is

[29:03] doing because it's going to be

[29:06] some houses that insurance,

[29:09] they're not going to get

[29:10] injured. That's what you said

[29:12] because it's a risk of flooding

[29:14] too many times. And the

[29:16] valuation of the houses is going

[29:17] to be very low, and even --

[29:21] seller houses and not be able to

[29:22] get a mortgage. And the --

[29:27] administration was saying, we

[29:28] have to build high rise

[29:30] buildings and condos to lower

[29:32] the cost for operating the city,

[29:34] and too low, but it did not

[29:37] happen. So now, for the 13

[29:47] projects, there are 2100

[29:49] apartments. Plus what they -- is

[29:52] about 3000, so over 5000

[29:55] apartments, plus the 3000, the

[29:59] 360, what Mr. Eric Stork said

[30:01] there they wanted. This is over

[30:03] 5000 apartment units, so any

[30:07] rain or any storm is going to

[30:09] have a flood again. So, I'm just

[30:12] giving you an idea about what

[30:14] the insurance said, because it

[30:16] is going to be costing all of us

[30:18] a lot of money for cleanup,

[30:22] renovation, so that's what they

[30:23] recommended, to stop building

[30:26] any, anything, and expand the

[30:28] city, and to have a plan,

[30:31] serious plan, for people to stop

[30:34] using the water facility when

[30:36] there's a storm, by alert, the

[30:38] same what you're doing for us

[30:39] when you call for changing

[30:42] anything for that. So, that's my

[30:43] question. Are you going to do

[30:45] that? Because now, I see they

[30:49] want to build more and more.

[30:50] >> Are we going to do what,

[30:52] Mister El daddy? I want to get

[30:53] some precision on your question.

[30:54] >> To stop building and expand

[30:56] in the city until they fix the

[31:01] infrastructure, the sewer

[31:02] entering system. That is one

[31:04] thing. The second thing, to have

[31:06] alerts for people to stop using

[31:08] the water or all the water

[31:12] facilities when it's storming.

[31:16] Because if you see in Florida

[31:19] and Georgia, the rain is not

[31:23] measured by millimetres, it's

[31:24] being measured by feet. So,

[31:27] that's what's going to happen

[31:29] because always it starts there

[31:31] and they come here. So, that

[31:33] those are the two things. We

[31:34] have to do it right away.

[31:37] >> Okay, well I will try and

[31:38] answer that because it's pretty

[31:40] all-encompassing. We

[31:45] procedurally, I think every city

[31:47] has realized that we have to

[31:48] get, we have to work with the

[31:50] citizens to figure out what to

[31:51] do and to have it more reactive

[31:54] approach proactive process up

[31:57] front, so we can help citizens

[31:59] immediately and tell them what

[32:01] to do, what not to do. Because a

[32:02] lot of us didn't realize how

[32:04] serious it was and using a

[32:05] plumbing in the basement and

[32:06] opening taps, doing all kinds of

[32:08] things, nobody really knew about

[32:09] it. There were whole bunch of

[32:10] things that we learn from. I

[32:11] mean, our own basement was

[32:12] flooded. Dollars was flooded and

[32:14] the city halls were flooded. I

[32:15] mean, it was a learning

[32:18] experience but al for a lot of

[32:19] people, for everybody. So yes,

[32:21] having a plan, knowing what to

[32:23] do, preparing as a city, the

[32:25] citizens, along with us, yes.

[32:27] Certainly. I think everybody's

[32:31] -- I've seen other cities doing

[32:33] this as well. We're all trying

[32:34] to get an action plan and

[32:36] prepared, so that when this

[32:38] happens again, it's not if, it's

[32:40] when this happens again, we will

[32:41] be better prepared. I think

[32:42] that's on us and I think we're

[32:44] working at that. There are a

[32:47] variety of things we can do.

[32:50] Retention basements, permeable

[32:52] pavement, there are all kinds of

[32:53] tricks that we can try and

[32:55] enact. Permeable pavement has

[32:57] not yet been convincing in its

[33:00] techniques yet, since testing.

[33:02] Retention basins have. But there

[33:04] are simple things, we really

[33:05] have to know, as you can't cut

[33:07] wet lines, can't cut trees,

[33:09] can't do a lot of things that

[33:10] absorb and you can't, in the

[33:12] end, you have to let, you can't

[33:14] build over absorption ground.

[33:17] Ground that absorbs water. It is

[33:19] not a good idea. So, these are

[33:21] all things that we know about

[33:22] that we can do that city should

[33:25] enact going forward. Will that

[33:26] stop building altogether? I

[33:28] doubt it very much. There are

[33:30] commitments and contracts, and

[33:33] forward plans already in place,

[33:35] okay? And I doubt very much that

[33:37] will, I don't think anybody is

[33:38] going to stop development

[33:40] altogether until we figure out

[33:42] how to, you know, until the next

[33:44] rainstorm. But what we can do is

[33:46] try and develop techniques that

[33:48] will mitigate against flooding.

[33:51] Now, the interesting thing, to

[33:53] answer your rainstorm or your,

[33:55] sorry, your insurance query with

[33:58] the rainstorm, what I noticed is

[34:01] they're not going to identify

[34:02] specific houses. In that

[34:04] flooding, in that rainstorm,

[34:06] houses that had never been

[34:07] flooded flooded. And houses that

[34:10] had frequently been flooded did

[34:11] not flood. I mean, it defied all

[34:14] logic, that rainstorm, the

[34:16] August 9th. So, I don't think

[34:18] you can build a case against

[34:20] certain houses from it. Just in

[34:22] my personal observation, from

[34:23] what occurred there, as far as

[34:25] whether houses insurable or not,

[34:27] I don't think we had convincing

[34:28] evidence one way or the other on

[34:29] that experience. So hopefully

[34:32] those are satisfactory answers

[34:34] to what you put a lot at me. Do

[34:37] you have a subsequent follow-up,

[34:40] Mister El Dabee? Do you have a

[34:41] follow-up question?

[34:42] >> Yeah because I already asked

[34:43] the insurance company, they

[34:46] already put the city at risk of

[34:50] flooding and we think, where is

[34:52] the two and a half billion

[34:53] dollars, who's going to pay all

[34:54] of that it's us, that's just

[34:58] clear and people understand. My

[35:00] second question about --

[35:04] >> That was an all encompassing

[35:06] first question, Mr. El Dabee.

[35:08] But I will allow the second one.

[35:09] >> Because it's very important,

[35:11] the first question, really. It

[35:12] affects all of us, all of us,

[35:14] the whole city. Not only me. We

[35:18] the 14.3.

[35:35] >> There is no 13.3.

[35:38] >> 14?

[35:39] >> 14.3.

[35:40] >> Oh, I'm sorry.

[35:42] 14,3.

[35:46] >> -- He was truck for removing

[35:48] the snow from the sidewalk, the

[35:50] two small ones. They pay almost

[35:56] half 1 million dollars for two

[35:59] used trucks and the new one is

[36:01] cheaper than that. So, --

[36:03] >> I doubt that very much,

[36:07] Mister El Dabee. I'm not an

[36:08] expert at these things but do

[36:09] you actually have facts and

[36:11] figures to confirm that?

[36:12] >> By checking the website and

[36:13] the new one, I'm just asking,

[36:16] did anybody check about the new

[36:17] one? Because we pay --

[36:19] >> I have the utmost confidence

[36:21] in my administration that we're

[36:22] not paying more for a used

[36:23] vehicle than anyone. I'm quite

[36:25] confident in answering on that.

[36:27] I don't know the facts but I'm

[36:28] pretty sure, just on an act of

[36:31] faith, that we're not

[36:32] deliberately spending so much.

[36:33] >> So me as a citizen, 200,000

[36:35] for a used one -- to clean the

[36:38] sidewalk, that's a lot. Anyway,

[36:40] I hope you check all of that,

[36:42] please. Because our taxes went

[36:44] up 16 and a half percent. That's

[36:47] why we care now about all of

[36:49] what the city is spending all

[36:52] our tax dollars on. Thank you.

[36:54] God bless you all.

[36:56] >> And Mr. El Dabee, just to

[36:58] answer your first question, just

[36:59] a follow-up, there are other

[37:01] things we can do as a city as

[37:03] well, which is to stop the cause

[37:04] of climate change. And we can

[37:07] solar panel our industrial park,

[37:10] the -- municipal buildings, we

[37:11] can green roof, we can do all

[37:12] kinds of things still to

[37:14] mitigate against climate

[37:15] disaster. Over and above just

[37:17] immediate infrastructures. We

[37:19] can do all kinds of, we can so

[37:21] countries, that's first and

[37:22] foremost but there are all kinds

[37:23] of techniques that as cities, we

[37:26] have to enact going forward.

[37:28] Madame Verdun, do you have

[37:31] anything subsequent to the

[37:32] purchase of vehicles with the

[37:34] acquisition of, are we paying

[37:35] too much for a second hand

[37:37] vehicle over a new one?

[37:39] >> They are slightly used

[37:40] vehicles that have a less than

[37:42] one year use. The reason that we

[37:45] bought that used vehicle is

[37:47] because we cannot wait for new

[37:48] ones and we have to go to

[37:51] tenders. So, for the price that

[37:52] you see online, that's not the

[37:54] price that we pay. So, I'm

[37:56] pretty sure that there, you

[37:58] know, less expensive than new

[37:59] ones after we do the tender.

[38:03] >> Okay, thank you.

[38:04] >> Thank you. No, that's all the

[38:06] questions, Mister El Dabee.

[38:07] Thank you. Miss Conway, Line

[38:11] Conway?

[38:21] >> Good evening. It's a

[38:25] follow-up for I have asked in

[38:28] the past about, this is a

[38:31] follow-up because I've asked in

[38:32] the past about some new

[38:35] construction on D and -- the

[38:38] veterans corridor because last

[38:40] year, when my assistant went up,

[38:42] I ended up being 16.5% more

[38:44] taxes and I was told that my

[38:46] assessment was in relationship

[38:47] to the price of houses sold in

[38:53] my neighbourhood. So, Dieppe is

[38:57] just one block away and at 163

[39:02] Diab, I wrote an email today and

[39:06] I just want to understand how we

[39:08] go from a zoning of one car

[39:12] garage to building, the building

[39:14] already went up. It's now a two

[39:16] car garage home. Like, usually

[39:20] if I want to do something that's

[39:25] out of the usual, that doesn't

[39:27] follow the bylaw, I need to ask

[39:30] for a derogation and it gets to

[39:32] be voted but I just wanted to

[39:34] know for a new home, doesn't

[39:36] follow the same process?

[39:37] >> That's a very good question.

[39:39] As to our set procedures, as a

[39:42] one or two car garages, I think

[39:44] that's a fairly fluid section of

[39:46] our building procedures that I

[39:49] think could be ironed out a

[39:51] little better than they are

[39:52] currently ironed out. That's my

[39:54] understanding. But I'm an

[39:56] overseer, I'm not an expert. Is

[39:58] there anybody who wants to add

[40:00] to that?

[40:01] >> I don't know exactly that

[40:03] file but I'm sure if they're not

[40:05] respecting the bylaw, they need

[40:06] to ask for a minor exemption or

[40:10] maybe in that case, it could be

[40:12] -- as pay process, so I will

[40:14] have to look at that case

[40:16] carefully. But yes, they can

[40:18] have a request, something that's

[40:20] not part of the bylaw to be --

[40:22] >> Also for example, there is

[40:25] 160 through the up and also 116.

[40:27] They built it with a three car

[40:29] garage. So, I don't know how

[40:31] that happens. Like, when the

[40:33] zoning is one car garage is, it

[40:35] seems a bit extreme because when

[40:36] those houses get bought and

[40:38] sold, and that's going to affect

[40:41] the next roll assessment. I

[40:45] don't know how much I'm going to

[40:46] pay in taxes.

[40:49] >> I'm personally surprised at

[40:50] that because that's not, not an

[40:54] especially efficient use of

[40:55] building on land. Per square

[40:57] footage. So, I'm surprised at

[40:58] that but I would have to look

[40:59] into that. A three car garage at

[41:02] 116 Dieppe?

[41:03] >> Yes.

[41:05] >> Okay, thank. You

[41:06] >> Also want to make a point

[41:07] about --

[41:08] >> I think that's --

[41:11] >> The garages are on the side

[41:12] of the house.

[41:13] >> Oh, it's the same question?

[41:15] Okay.

[41:16] >> It's the house that looks

[41:17] like four times the size of my

[41:18] house.

[41:19] >> Okay.

[41:20] >> My second question, about

[41:23] global warming and these events

[41:26] that we have. With the wood

[41:29] burning, even there was a lady

[41:30] that came at the mic last year.

[41:34] She did a very nice speech about

[41:37] the stove with the pellets. It's

[41:41] as bad as burning wood. I think

[41:44] my neighbour does that. I get

[41:46] the smell in the winter. It's

[41:49] the same thing. The pollution is

[41:51] the same thing. Can we address

[41:54] this issue with the pellet

[41:58] burning wood stoves?

[41:59] >> You would like us to be as

[42:02] stringent with pellet burning as

[42:03] we are with wood burning in our

[42:05] laws?

[42:06] >> It's the same thing, the lady

[42:07] who came, I don't have a name

[42:08] there, we would have to research

[42:09] it again if I watch old council

[42:13] meetings. I don't know if you

[42:14] remember the lady that came and

[42:17] talked about the wood stoves and

[42:18] pellet stoves? We

[42:22] >> It might have been stellar

[42:24] Haley, but I'm not sure she

[42:25] would make that error. She would

[42:27] know if pellets were bad.

[42:30] >> Yeah, she gave the numbers of

[42:32] pollution.

[42:33] >> Okay, we can't attribute that

[42:35] comment to Miss Haley because we

[42:36] don't know. Just guessing, so,

[42:40] what my understanding is if

[42:42] pellets are as bad as would, we

[42:44] should have that in our, we

[42:45] should be treating them in the

[42:46] same way as we treat wood. Or --

[42:50] >> It's as bad for the

[42:52] environment. Because wood, it's

[42:53] wood. The palettes, I think they

[42:55] take grass and they compress it.

[42:57] It's as bad.

[42:58] >> Okay, thank you.

[43:00] >> Thank you.

[43:01] >> Susan Weaver?

[43:10] >> This is pretty nice, okay?

[43:13] So, I have two questions. First

[43:15] one with the preamble. Oops, at

[43:18] the August council meeting, a

[43:20] bylaw was adopted concerning the

[43:22] expenses of council members and

[43:24] reimbursement procedures. In

[43:26] section three of this bylaw,

[43:29] ineligible expenses, it's

[43:31] written that council members are

[43:33] responsible to pay costs

[43:35] incurred following an accident

[43:37] or breakdown. Towing, insurance

[43:40] deductible, and repairs, et

[43:42] cetera. Or any other event

[43:44] that's not the cities

[43:45] responsibility. I don't know

[43:46] what et cetera is. Last spring,

[43:49] you had an accident with a

[43:51] vehicle that our city supplies,

[43:53] Mayor, for City use. You are not

[43:55] using it for City business. You

[43:57] totalled the city vehicle and

[43:59] now you have to drive your own

[44:00] vehicle. Since the lease was

[44:03] between the city and the car

[44:05] company, does the City have to

[44:06] pay something when the lease is

[44:08] broken before time? And what's

[44:11] the total expense to the city

[44:12] for your accident?

[44:14] >> Okay, first of all, the

[44:19] automobile that was supplied to

[44:20] the mayor of Pointe-Claire,

[44:22] which has been supplied to I

[44:23] think three subsequent mayors

[44:25] who've all driven a car supplied

[44:28] by the City. The car, the rules

[44:31] and operation of the vehicle did

[44:34] not stipulate or did not

[44:36] distinguish between types of

[44:38] usage of the vehicle. I suspect

[44:40] they didn't want people having

[44:43] cars in their driveway. The car

[44:45] could only be used for groceries

[44:46] and this car could be used for

[44:47] that, and I'm going to have two

[44:50] vehicles taking up space in a

[44:51] driveway for different usages. I

[44:55] personally, as to not have the

[44:56] car we, asked to not have the

[44:58] car but it was a stipulation of

[45:00] the job and it is what every

[45:01] mayor of Pointe-Claire has had

[45:02] for 25 years. So, I got the

[45:05] vehicle. And I drove the

[45:07] vehicle. While driving the

[45:09] vehicle, I hit a deer. I did not

[45:12] get injured, I did not die. And

[45:14] the car was fully insured. Thank

[45:18] you, Miss Weaver.

[45:20] >> So, --

[45:21] >> You have a subsequent

[45:23] question?

[45:24] >> Okay, I'll ask --

[45:25] >> One subsequent question.

[45:27] >> Okay, my second question is,

[45:30] because I didn't get an answer

[45:31] the first time, what's the

[45:32] procedure? --

[45:33] >> Excuse me, you did get an

[45:35] answer the first time.

[45:36] >> No, I didn't.

[45:37] >> That is not a fair statement

[45:38] and I just have to correct it.

[45:40] You did get an answer. Thank

[45:41] you, Miss Weaver, your

[45:43] subsequent question?

[45:44] >> Well, the first one, what's

[45:46] the total expense to the city?

[45:47] >> I'm not sure. It was fully

[45:49] insured, so I don't know.

[45:50] >> It's okay, I'll find out.

[45:52] >> Question two, what's the

[45:55] procedure when you really do

[45:56] have a city expense? Do you have

[45:58] a city credit card?

[46:02] >> Is that your question?

[46:03] >> Yeah.

[46:04] >> I had a city credit card. I

[46:06] no longer have a city credit

[46:08] card. It was given to me. It's

[46:10] an interesting process.

[46:11] >> No, I like this.

[46:13] >> Miss Weaver, I'm answering

[46:15] your second question, okay? When

[46:17] I became mayor, I was given a

[46:19] credit card and I was given a

[46:21] car. All of a sudden, I don't

[46:23] have a credit card, I don't have

[46:24] a car. I followed the rules.

[46:27] Okay, you want me to use the

[46:28] credit card? I will use a credit

[46:30] card. You don't want me to use a

[46:31] credit card? I don't use a

[46:32] credit card. You want me to the

[46:33] car? I will use the car. If you

[46:35] don't want me to use the car, I

[46:36] won't use the car. It is a

[46:38] simple as that, Miss Weaver.

[46:39] That's the answer to your

[46:41] question.

[46:42] >> Okay.

[46:43] >> Thank you. David Johnson?

[46:58] >> It the rule two questions on

[47:00] anything?

[47:01] >> One preamble, two questions,

[47:03] period.

[47:04] >> On the same theme?

[47:05] >> They will have to be. The

[47:06] second question could be a

[47:08] follow-up but preferably,

[47:10] actually that's a good question.

[47:11] Does it have to be on the same

[47:12] thing? No, okay. So, there is a

[47:15] preamble and then two questions.

[47:16] >> David Johnson, district one.

[47:20] How much would it cost, by

[47:22] Fairview forest, has there been

[47:24] an evaluation?

[47:26] >> Not exactly, no.

[47:29] >> As a follow-up to that, I

[47:31] would like to point out a

[47:32] similarity between Pointe-Claire

[47:34] and Hudson. Hudson, like

[47:38] Pointe-Claire, is involved with

[47:39] the bay in saving a big piece of

[47:41] land. In Hudson, it's behind

[47:45] what they call sandy beach.

[47:47] There is wetlands there.

[47:50] Protected by the new changes to

[47:52] the Municipal taxation Act and

[47:55] developable land. Citizens

[48:01] there, there is no consensus on

[48:02] what to do. By that or not?

[48:05] Develop it or not? The mayor

[48:10] there, like our mayor here, does

[48:11] not want to any development on

[48:13] the.

[48:14] >> Excuse me, for giving me to

[48:15] interrupt. Can you please

[48:16] address Council?

[48:17] >> Pardon?

[48:18] >> Yes, you to address Council,

[48:20] not the audience. It's actually

[48:22] a real procedure. --

[48:25] >> The mayor there, like you

[48:28] hear, does not want development

[48:29] in that area.

[48:31] >> Not just the mayor but

[48:33] anyhow, yes.

[48:34] >> Council is divided.

[48:36] >> We are not even sure of that.

[48:38] We're not sure Council is

[48:39] divided on that. We have not had

[48:40] an official vote on that.

[48:43] >> I'm talking about --

[48:44] >> I'm just correcting facts

[48:45] here. You're speaking for the

[48:47] people, oh, in Hudson? Okay.

[48:49] >> In Hudson, the mayor says I

[48:50] am opposed to development there.

[48:53] But she says I am the Mayor of

[48:55] all people in Hudson and maybe

[48:59] some of them need to know what

[49:01] the cost will be. So, Hudson

[49:07] council approved to resolutions.

[49:09] One, $25,000 to affirm in

[49:14] Repentigny to say, what is this

[49:18] land worth? Taking into

[49:20] consideration the new changes to

[49:21] new municipal taxation act. What

[49:24] kind of range are we talking

[49:26] about? What would be the cost to

[49:28] taxpayers of buying that? Or

[49:30] buying some of it? At the same

[49:35] time, another 25,000 dollar

[49:37] contract was accorded to be C

[49:39] to, another firm, to do an

[49:41] opportunity cost analysis of the

[49:46] case. My question is, can you,

[49:51] Mister Mayor, persuade Council

[49:55] to do the same thing? To give us

[49:59] an independent study of what it

[50:01] would cost taxpayers to buy

[50:04] Fairview forest and what the

[50:06] opportunity cost, in terms of

[50:10] development revenue, would be if

[50:11] we don't buy it?

[50:12] >> Well, Mr. Johnson, I would

[50:14] love to have a referendum on

[50:17] that. And then we would get a

[50:19] very accurate answer to that.

[50:21] That would be the truest and

[50:22] honest answer to that, rather

[50:25] than an economic equation drawn

[50:27] up by a quote, unquote,

[50:29] consulting expert. I would like

[50:30] a much more broad, excuse me,

[50:33] Mr. Johnson.

[50:34] >> I didn't interrupt you.

[50:35] >> Okay, just subsequent, the

[50:37] previous experiences, is rearing

[50:39] its ugly head. I don't think

[50:44] evaluating it costs of saving

[50:45] our lives is an economic

[50:47] equation, as simple as that. I

[50:49] think the environment and

[50:52] concern for the environment is

[50:54] something that weighs much more

[50:55] strongly than a simple economic

[50:57] equation. And when you're going

[50:59] to maybe perhaps lose your

[51:01] existence, no amount of money

[51:04] matters. So, it's really

[51:06] interesting how people sometimes

[51:07] want to quantify the costs of

[51:08] something. The cost of cutting

[51:10] down a whole bunch of trees and

[51:12] a force and a wetland after we

[51:14] just had a really serious flood

[51:16] is a really interesting proposal

[51:18] on your part. I find it really

[51:20] intriguing. I think that the

[51:23] evaluation of the importance of

[51:24] the forest is far beyond an

[51:26] economic one. And I would love

[51:28] the citizens to weigh in on

[51:30] that. But I will let them speak

[51:31] to your question, perhaps

[51:34] overtime and in the various

[51:36] democratic processes that come

[51:38] to us. Hudson can evaluated

[51:41] their own way and they're

[51:43] perfectly prepared and willing

[51:44] to do so or they can do as they

[51:46] choose. I think the proper

[51:50] solution to this Fairview forest

[51:53] is not whether the City buys it,

[51:55] but whether there are other ways

[51:57] of protecting that forest

[51:58] without the City buying it.

[52:00] There are a variety of ways of

[52:02] accomplishing that

[52:03] administratively that are areas

[52:04] that should be explored. So, I'm

[52:06] actually doing a fiscally

[52:08] responsible approach to saving

[52:10] the forest. For one, I would've

[52:14] loved more help from the CMM or

[52:16] from other higher levels of

[52:18] government who could perhaps

[52:19] wait in and acquire the forest.

[52:21] There are all kinds of ways of

[52:23] protecting that forest other

[52:24] than the city, itself, buying

[52:26] it. There are many, many, excuse

[52:28] me, Mr. Johnson. There are many,

[52:31] many ways of protecting that

[52:33] forest without putting it on the

[52:34] back of the taxpayer. And to

[52:36] portray it as such is truly

[52:40] unfortunate. So, that's my

[52:41] answer. Now, Mr. Johnson, this

[52:43] is your subsequent question.

[52:46] Your second, follow-up question.

[52:47] >> So, the answer is no, you

[52:49] wouldn't favour a study to

[52:51] evaluate the value of that?

[52:52] >> I would favour whatever the

[52:54] citizens of Pointe-Claire choose

[52:55] to approach this problem in the

[52:57] most clear and democratic way

[52:59] possible. Councillor Stork?

[53:03] >> Just to make this clear, I'm

[53:05] letting a cat out of the bag

[53:06] here but we have never discuss

[53:07] this issue, right? Like, I just

[53:09] want to make sure that what I'm

[53:11] about to say, I've never

[53:12] discussed this with you. Anyhow,

[53:15] I can tell you that I have asked

[53:19] internally the mayor to put

[53:21] something like that together.

[53:24] Okay, is it in the works? I'm

[53:25] not sure. I'm sure other things

[53:27] will be said but regardless of

[53:29] that, I can tell you, and I've

[53:31] spoken to some members of

[53:32] Council, that that needs to be

[53:35] done. I need the assessment of

[53:37] what our options, expropriation,

[53:40] purchase, if we go to get so

[53:43] free money, would we be able to

[53:44] put a plan together to assess

[53:46] it? And basically, you know once

[53:48] again, letting the cat out of

[53:49] the bag, you know I'm working

[53:51] actually on a resolution to

[53:52] force that issue, to bring it to

[53:54] the attention of the

[53:55] administration that if so, if

[53:58] the majority of Council agrees,

[53:59] that something of that nature

[54:00] will be done to get a final

[54:03] assessment. Again, not for or

[54:05] against it at this point. Time

[54:07] has to portray itself, time

[54:08] needs to go through. But to get

[54:10] us the facts. If we expropriate,

[54:12] what are our rates of

[54:13] expropriation? There's a lot of

[54:15] misunderstanding of

[54:16] expropriation. Oh, it's free,

[54:17] I've seen people say it's free

[54:19] for wetlands. Well, it has to be

[54:20] wetlands of high value, which

[54:22] still has to be determined. And

[54:24] a proper environmental

[54:25] assessment, not one by like the

[54:27] legacy group, which is an

[54:28] organization. Not one by the

[54:30] developer either. We need a

[54:31] proper, independent evaluation

[54:32] to know where we stand, so we

[54:34] can make decisions and I believe

[54:35] this is pretty much a referendum

[54:37] question. You know, to what

[54:39] extent? 50 plus one, two thirds,

[54:41] like the constitution? I don't

[54:42] know. But something of this

[54:44] nature, the type of expenditure

[54:45] we're looking for needs to be a

[54:47] long, deep, and thought process.

[54:49] It can be a group for against

[54:50] for or against development, or

[54:53] four or against the Fairview

[54:54] forest. It's a process that

[54:55] needs to be done and I strongly

[54:59] would support that.

[55:00] >> Okay, Councillor Tremblay?

[55:02] >> Thank you, Mister Mayor. I

[55:05] have to admit that I am

[55:06] disappointed with the narrow

[55:08] focus of the question, which is

[55:10] uniformly, unilaterally

[55:12] economic. So, in all honesty, so

[55:16] is the answer. And that

[55:19] particular perspective is an old

[55:21] one. It's the way we used to

[55:23] think about things. We used to

[55:24] think strictly about the

[55:25] economics of these kinds of

[55:26] matters. As the storms that are

[55:32] ravaging the east coast from

[55:34] Florida up to us now, this is

[55:37] becoming a -- issue, it's

[55:39] becoming a problem. The federal

[55:40] government has maintained that

[55:41] were undergoing a climate

[55:44] emergency. You act when there is

[55:46] an emergency. So, in order to

[55:48] find a solution to this problem

[55:49] that we have right now, and this

[55:53] has nothing to do with the way

[55:55] they've moved forward in Hudson.

[55:57] Probably in other contexts. You

[55:58] may be even comparing apples to

[56:00] oranges. As far as I can tell.

[56:03] The important thing is that we,

[56:06] in Council, and I've said this

[56:08] many times, have the intention

[56:10] of working towards saving

[56:13] important green space. There are

[56:17] numerous legal avenues. I

[56:21] wouldn't say numerous, that's

[56:22] the wrong word, but their legal

[56:24] avenues that are beginning to

[56:25] take shape in this province to

[56:27] allow cities to be able to

[56:30] protect some of the green

[56:31] heritage that they have. That

[56:33] has to be included in that

[56:35] discussion. Another important

[56:37] factor that needs to be included

[56:38] in the discussion is the

[56:41] possibility of working with

[56:45] individual land owners, whether

[56:48] they be private, small,

[56:49] residential land owners or

[56:51] large, corporate ones, in order

[56:52] to arrive at those kinds of

[56:54] solutions. I, for one, I'm tired

[56:57] of reading regular reports of a

[56:59] number of species dying out on a

[57:03] daily basis. We have situations

[57:05] where we had the COP15 meeting

[57:08] here in Montréal recently where

[57:10] every government representative,

[57:12] federally, provincially,

[57:13] municipally, showed up and said

[57:14] yes, we want to save everything.

[57:15] ,

[57:20] And we've lost provincially now,

[57:21] it's contradictory and in terms

[57:22] of obtaining some of those

[57:23] school so I think it's time here

[57:24] at this table here, and in the

[57:25] audience, and in Pointe-Claire

[57:26] generally, those who make of the

[57:27] social fabric of this particular

[57:28] city, that we get together and

[57:29] we start thinking creatively

[57:30] about how we're going to be able

[57:31] to save these kinds of areas..

[57:32] Next, test, test..

[57:33] | | |

[57:41] So, again, and disappointed with

[57:44] the narrow focus. I think it's

[57:46] an important question to be

[57:48] raising. It's something we

[57:50] should be talking about

[57:52] regularly. But I would encourage

[57:53] you to also broaden your

[57:54] horizons and start looking at

[57:56] ways that you might be able to

[57:57] contribute to help save it as

[57:59] well. It's not just important

[58:00] for us, not just important for

[58:02] those who are invested in it,

[58:03] but for everybody else in the

[58:06] future. Going forward. Thank

[58:08] you.

[58:09] >> Thank you, Councillor

[58:11] Tremblay. Stuart Brennan?

[58:21] >> Hello. I'm Stewart Brandon,

[58:23] I'm from district eight. I live

[58:26] on Bell mar in the apartment

[58:29] buildings. I live on Del Mar at

[58:32] the, there's 11 apartment

[58:33] buildings, I'm sure you know

[58:35] about them. I heard your words

[58:38] tonight about being concerned

[58:41] about those for rent, rentals,

[58:45] you know? For the people who

[58:48] would be able to pay rent, so I

[58:53] listened to that and so, I had

[58:55] the question. If you really

[58:57] believe it, if you really mean

[58:59] it, because you have raised our

[59:01] taxes on those buildings 25%.

[59:06] 25%. And that was put down on

[59:09] us. We are people who don't have

[59:12] a lot of money. We work hard and

[59:16] we are under the gun all the

[59:19] time by those who buy the

[59:21] buildings, like Mr. Cowan, you

[59:23] know you had somebody who bought

[59:24] those buildings. When they put

[59:26] their foot down on us, okay? And

[59:29] push the rants up, push people

[59:31] out of the buildings, and I'm

[59:34] telling you, we were under fire

[59:36] here. Now, you raised the taxes

[59:40] 25% and that was put on us by

[59:43] the owners. Owners of these

[59:45] buildings. Not only that, if

[59:49] you're going to evaluate a

[59:51] building and raise the taxes,

[59:53] one of these buildings has a

[59:54] roof on the ground. 496 Del Mar,

[59:59] half the roof is on the ground.

[1:00:03] And you've raised these taxes.

[1:00:04] These buildings are not worth

[1:00:06] more than what they were before.

[1:00:07] They are worth less. I am

[1:00:10] telling you guys, you've got to

[1:00:12] really look into it. You're

[1:00:13] talking about housing for

[1:00:14] people. Oh, well we want to

[1:00:15] build. Never mind building, how

[1:00:16] about the ones that are there

[1:00:17] now? How about saving those

[1:00:20] ones? How about getting involved

[1:00:21] with that? Because we are under

[1:00:23] the fire. You guys, you've got a

[1:00:26] nice job, got an extra job,

[1:00:28] you've got extra, you know? For

[1:00:29] whatever you're doing. We don't

[1:00:31] have that. We've got one job.

[1:00:33] We've got families to take care

[1:00:35] of. We are the people who take

[1:00:37] care of things in the hospitals,

[1:00:39] the old folks homes, and in

[1:00:42] companies. We are the blue

[1:00:44] collar workers. Are you going to

[1:00:46] help us? So, my question, why

[1:00:50] did you raise the taxes? And

[1:00:53] will you lower these taxes for

[1:00:56] us?

[1:00:57] >> That is quite a moving

[1:01:01] statement and I totally respect

[1:01:02] what you have just said. It is a

[1:01:05] hard question to answer. Taxes

[1:01:08] are a challenge because you have

[1:01:09] to pay for things, you are

[1:01:11] right. Taxes are also, as you've

[1:01:14] learned tonight, a huge hunk of

[1:01:16] them come from another

[1:01:19] organization. Quite, in all

[1:01:22] fairness, we don't think

[1:01:24] operates as well or as

[1:01:26] officially as we do or as

[1:01:27] justly, in some ways, as we do.

[1:01:30] So, it is hard to control rent.

[1:01:34] Excuse me, it's hard, it's very

[1:01:36] hard to control rent. It's

[1:01:37] really hard to control taxes and

[1:01:39] the level of taxation. I hear

[1:01:41] what you are saying. For us then

[1:01:45] we can improve our, levels of

[1:01:47] service delivery, efficiency,

[1:01:49] how we operate. You know, there

[1:01:51] are all kinds of variables on

[1:01:52] that which I hear you loud and

[1:01:53] clear on compared to the average

[1:01:55] person. And I respect what you

[1:01:57] have said. To control taxes is,

[1:02:03] I mean, what you are getting it

[1:02:05] in there is that if there's

[1:02:06] building renovations, you're

[1:02:07] talking renovictions or are you

[1:02:09] talking about a building gets

[1:02:10] value, goes up if it renovates

[1:02:12] or if it gets rebuilt?

[1:02:14] >> First of all, they haven't

[1:02:15] done any renovations to the

[1:02:17] buildings but the evaluations,

[1:02:20] they consulted somebody and then

[1:02:21] they go in and evaluate the

[1:02:23] buildings, and then the taxes go

[1:02:25] up. Now, like I said, in one

[1:02:27] year, 25%, the taxes went up.

[1:02:30] From 120, hundred thousand two,

[1:02:33] or 101,000 $226,000. And it is

[1:02:37] going up again. It's going up

[1:02:38] again. 5000, $6,000 every year.

[1:02:41] Why? These buildings are coming

[1:02:43] down. Like I say, they've put

[1:02:45] those taxes when they want to go

[1:02:47] to the towel and they say okay,

[1:02:49] our taxes went up. You know, our

[1:02:51] costs were going up and

[1:02:52] everything, so they throw it but

[1:02:55] 25% is a huge cost. It's a huge

[1:02:57] amount. I don't know who made

[1:03:01] those decisions but come on, you

[1:03:03] really have to look at the

[1:03:04] buildings. The buildings are

[1:03:05] really not in great shape.

[1:03:07] >> Okay.

[1:03:08] >> They could be. Maybe if

[1:03:10] everyone started to take, you

[1:03:11] know, take concern about the

[1:03:14] people in Pointe-Claire,

[1:03:17] especially in that region. We

[1:03:19] need it. We've got attendance

[1:03:21] unit now. So, we would like to

[1:03:24] address that. And eventually in

[1:03:26] the future, we may be able to

[1:03:28] come down here and address these

[1:03:29] things. Hopefully we can work

[1:03:30] together and maybe one day, you

[1:03:32] will buy these buildings. You

[1:03:34] know what I mean? Instead of

[1:03:35] buying new, brand new things

[1:03:39] which are costing thousands and

[1:03:42] millions of dollars, I don't

[1:03:43] know, that's just off the top of

[1:03:45] my head, sorry.

[1:03:46] >> Well, you are speaking my

[1:03:47] language in some ways. I will

[1:03:50] allow one subsequent question,

[1:03:51] sir. But we do have to, I think,

[1:03:54] and I say this in the last

[1:03:55] campaign, we have to look after

[1:03:56] those that live here, not those

[1:03:58] that are moving in. We and that

[1:04:03] is, you know, the

[1:04:04] infrastructure, the costs, the

[1:04:05] burden, the traffic, and all of

[1:04:07] the spin off that comes is

[1:04:10] absorbed by the existing

[1:04:11] citizens and is it good or bad?

[1:04:12] Do their rents go down? Do their

[1:04:15] properties, do their taxes go

[1:04:16] down? I mean, Miss Conway

[1:04:19] explained that there is a lot of

[1:04:20] economic activity around her

[1:04:23] house and her taxes went up

[1:04:25] huge. But this is supposed to be

[1:04:26] good, having new development.

[1:04:28] All of this stuff in the

[1:04:29] turnover, the economic turnover,

[1:04:31] is supposed to be good. Supposed

[1:04:32] to be bringing taxes around.

[1:04:34] Does not seem to be. We keep

[1:04:37] building, the argument is we

[1:04:38] increase supply, we heard

[1:04:41] affordability or we make it more

[1:04:44] affordable if we increase

[1:04:45] supply. Well guess what? We

[1:04:46] increase supply more than

[1:04:47] anybody in the West Island and

[1:04:49] we had the single highest rent

[1:04:50] increase in the country. So, for

[1:04:53] me, there's something wrong with

[1:04:54] this formula that you're

[1:04:55] touching on. And my, and I will

[1:04:58] give you my philosophical

[1:05:00] argument, and it is an

[1:05:01] interesting one. I think

[1:05:03] affordability is something that

[1:05:04] cannot be left to the market. I

[1:05:06] think the affordability, issue

[1:05:08] of affordability and housing is

[1:05:10] something that requires more

[1:05:14] intervention. If you leave it to

[1:05:15] the market, we see negative

[1:05:17] consequences left, right, and

[1:05:18] centre, and we've seen it in

[1:05:20] Pointe-Claire, and that's my

[1:05:21] long, philosophical answer to

[1:05:22] that.

[1:05:23] >> Okay so how many more

[1:05:25] buildings?

[1:05:26] >> One more question.

[1:05:27] >> How many more buildings have

[1:05:28] been approved to be put up in

[1:05:29] that region? On the Del Mar

[1:05:31] region where there's a company

[1:05:33] that's probably slated to be

[1:05:34] taken down, maybe even our

[1:05:36] buildings could be slated to be

[1:05:37] taken down so they can put up

[1:05:38] these bigger buildings. I mean,

[1:05:40] are there more buildings,

[1:05:43] high-rise buildings being slated

[1:05:44] for construction down there?

[1:05:47] >> In that area? Madam Verdon,

[1:05:50] do we know precise number as to

[1:05:51] how many in that specific area?

[1:05:54] >> We don't have right now in

[1:05:56] the table for that area.

[1:05:58] >> So, --

[1:06:00] >> Thank you, sir.

[1:06:01] >> Mister Mayor, your tax

[1:06:06] evaluation this time around, the

[1:06:08] buildings we just sold, to my

[1:06:10] understanding, right?

[1:06:11] >> Again, yes. Surprised that

[1:06:13] you know about it.

[1:06:14] >> Whatever the new buyers paid

[1:06:18] for it, that's going to be the

[1:06:20] basis of the tax assessment, the

[1:06:22] next rule. That will be it

[1:06:25] because they don't have to

[1:06:26] compare that building to

[1:06:27] anything else. It's whatever the

[1:06:29] current owners, and I don't even

[1:06:30] know who they are. The used to

[1:06:31] be North Cliff and I just heard

[1:06:34] this week that the building, all

[1:06:37] the buildings I think we're sold

[1:06:39] from North Cliff to whoever owns

[1:06:40] it now. You said you formed a

[1:06:42] tenants association?

[1:06:43] >> Yes, we have.

[1:06:44] >> Can you please get in touch

[1:06:45] with me so that I can coordinate

[1:06:47] with you? I mean, this has

[1:06:49] asserted me for six years, seven

[1:06:52] years, ever since I was first

[1:06:53] elected, how to keep rents

[1:06:56] reasonable. Keep them down and I

[1:06:58] think I knocked on your door on

[1:06:59] one or two elections. I think we

[1:07:01] had this same conversation. It's

[1:07:07] a challenge. What I did is I

[1:07:09] wrote a letter to North Cliff, I

[1:07:11] wrote a letter to them

[1:07:13] congratulating them on their

[1:07:15] efforts to maintain affordable

[1:07:17] housing in Pointe-Claire. I let

[1:07:18] them know, through the lines,

[1:07:19] well that's the way you played a

[1:07:21] game, right? And then I let them

[1:07:24] know, reading between the lines,

[1:07:25] they better try to keep it that

[1:07:27] way or they're going to run into

[1:07:29] resistance. From me, as a

[1:07:32] councillor, and I think I can

[1:07:34] speak for Pointe-Claire in

[1:07:35] general because that's what

[1:07:36] we're trying to do. To the best

[1:07:38] of our ability. We are very

[1:07:42] limited in what we can do in

[1:07:43] terms of the property evaluation

[1:07:46] because that's run by the City

[1:07:47] of Montréal, based on their

[1:07:49] formula. And then your taxes

[1:07:51] went up because we are stuck

[1:07:53] with that evaluation and we are

[1:07:55] stuck with trying to apply taxes

[1:08:00] across the entire -- in

[1:08:02] Pointe-Claire. It just happens

[1:08:04] that with your property, with

[1:08:06] the apartments there, they went

[1:08:08] up in value at a steeper rate

[1:08:11] and the rest of Pointe-Claire.

[1:08:12] That's why you had a better, I

[1:08:15] mean, more of an increase. It's

[1:08:16] not because the actual budget

[1:08:18] went up that much. The budget

[1:08:20] didn't go up very much. The way

[1:08:22] the tax was distributed, that's

[1:08:24] affected and it's affected by

[1:08:25] the evaluations done by the City

[1:08:27] of Montréal. It's complicated

[1:08:30] but like especially if you set

[1:08:31] up a meeting with your tenants

[1:08:34] association, I will explain it

[1:08:35] to them and then maybe we can

[1:08:36] think of a way forward. For one

[1:08:37] thing, we have to find out, I

[1:08:39] also understood that you are

[1:08:40] just given a photocopy of like

[1:08:42] some photocopy telling you to

[1:08:43] pay rent to some other --

[1:08:46] >> It's funny that you know all

[1:08:48] this stuff. I know that you're

[1:08:49] -- with all of these developers

[1:08:51] because --

[1:08:53] >> Back when you are your friend

[1:08:55] from Northview, I mean, you got

[1:08:56] involved, you stuck your nose in

[1:08:57] somewhere where you should not

[1:08:58] have. You got our maintenance

[1:09:01] person removed and because of

[1:09:03] that, we've never had a

[1:09:04] maintenance person again, and he

[1:09:07] was taking care of the

[1:09:09] buildings, but you stuck your

[1:09:10] nose in where you should not

[1:09:12] have.

[1:09:13] >> Well, --

[1:09:16] >> That episode, which we can

[1:09:18] discuss also another time, --

[1:09:21] >> He saved my kids from being

[1:09:22] picked up.

[1:09:23] >> I think we should refrain

[1:09:24] from an exchange. Yes,

[1:09:27] Councillor Stork?

[1:09:30] >> First of all, I have no idea

[1:09:32] what you are talking about as a

[1:09:34] friend from Northview. I know

[1:09:35] nothing about a maintenance

[1:09:37] person there, so please approach

[1:09:39] me or make it public with

[1:09:42] supporting information because I

[1:09:43] know nothing of what you're

[1:09:44] talking about right now. And

[1:09:45] just to let you know, as

[1:09:48] Councillor Cowan mentioned, we

[1:09:49] have no control over fiscal

[1:09:51] taxes, we have none. We can't

[1:09:52] even prescribed by the law to

[1:09:53] say a certain area, certain

[1:09:55] regions, or certain street pays

[1:09:57] higher or less taxes. We just

[1:09:59] had come out with a new law, C

[1:10:01] 39, which gives us different

[1:10:03] evaluations of taxation to

[1:10:05] create sub categories that can

[1:10:07] possibly views. Believe me, I

[1:10:09] played for your cause, no

[1:10:11] question about it but we have to

[1:10:12] work with the confines of what

[1:10:13] we have. Just to go back the

[1:10:16] buddy from Northview, I really

[1:10:17] don't appreciate that.

[1:10:18] >> But your concern for your

[1:10:20] citizens though, thank you.

[1:10:25] >> So stack oh? Yeah, you're the

[1:10:28] last.

[1:10:36] >> Thank you for taking a

[1:10:38] nonresidents question and for

[1:10:42] giving me time. I wondered if,

[1:10:47] well first of all, I would have

[1:10:49] to be noticing I was driving

[1:10:50] down St. John's the other day

[1:10:52] and I noticed a lot of new

[1:10:55] native, maybe it wasn't new

[1:10:56] native planting about beautiful

[1:10:58] plantings along the side. It

[1:10:59] looks like there's some measures

[1:11:00] being taken, maybe that's the

[1:11:03] sustainability group, I don't

[1:11:04] know. Anyway, I really

[1:11:05] appreciate that I've seen more

[1:11:06] native plantings in the public

[1:11:09] spaces. It really makes a big

[1:11:11] difference for biodiversity and

[1:11:14] our local wildlife, our bucks,

[1:11:17] basically. We need to help our

[1:11:19] bugs. So, you probably know I'm

[1:11:21] a member of the group save

[1:11:23] Fairview forest. I wondered if

[1:11:26] it's kind of a general all

[1:11:28] Council question but I guess I

[1:11:30] can address the mayor. Did you

[1:11:33] receive any emails recently from

[1:11:36] a glut of them about safe

[1:11:39] Fairview forest? And maybe

[1:11:41] looking into other solutions of

[1:11:44] or sitting down and finding

[1:11:46] solutions that may not involve

[1:11:48] buying the forest and reaching

[1:11:51] out to Montréal, Québec, and

[1:11:53] even Canada for, you know, some

[1:11:56] ideas? Did any of you receive

[1:11:59] those emails?

[1:12:01] >> Yes, we all do, I certainly

[1:12:03] did.

[1:12:04] >> We ask our supporters to see

[1:12:07] us, and we saw that there were

[1:12:09] 58 emails sent. And I guess my

[1:12:14] question is, do you typically

[1:12:18] get that many emails about one

[1:12:20] topic in a, say, week period? We

[1:12:22] just celebrated our 200th week

[1:12:23] at the force, so that was a

[1:12:25] campaign that we launched. Would

[1:12:29] that be -- fair to say that's a

[1:12:30] lot of emails?

[1:12:31] >> Since I've been mayor, yes.

[1:12:34] Since I've been mayor, nothing

[1:12:35] has come close, that's correct.

[1:12:38] >> So why didn't we get any

[1:12:41] replies? I guess that's my main

[1:12:44] question.

[1:12:45] >> It's a very good question.

[1:12:49] Where we -- yeah, we could --

[1:12:52] yes, that would solicit. It

[1:12:54] doesn't have to request a reply.

[1:12:56] It should have, but yes. Yes.

[1:13:00] Yes, Councillor Stork?

[1:13:02] >> Yes, we did receive a bunch

[1:13:03] of emails, because you, Sam we

[1:13:07] obviously got them. I did reply

[1:13:08] to every citizen in my district

[1:13:10] and actually met with them and

[1:13:11] explain my position. I explained

[1:13:14] exactly what I said today about

[1:13:16] moving forward on this issue. It

[1:13:18] was exactly what I told her I

[1:13:19] would say. So if you could read

[1:13:22] through your list, she was in

[1:13:24] district seven, and I met with

[1:13:25] her.

[1:13:26] >> Okay, I will definitely ask

[1:13:27] them, thank you for doing that.

[1:13:30] What's going on over here?

[1:13:31] >> Okay, Councillor -- sorry. Go

[1:13:35] ahead, Councillor Stainforth and

[1:13:37] then Councillor Tremblay.

[1:13:39] >> The protocol is that when we

[1:13:40] receive an email that everybody

[1:13:42] is copied on including the

[1:13:43] mayor, we allow the mayor to

[1:13:45] answer the email, that's our

[1:13:47] protocol. It's always been that

[1:13:48] way. So because he is the chief,

[1:13:53] I suppose, right, so that is

[1:13:56] typically the way it has always

[1:13:59] worked with emails address to

[1:14:01] everybody.

[1:14:02] >> This is news to me.

[1:14:03] >> Thank you for explaining.

[1:14:06] Well, we still thought it was

[1:14:08] important that everyone.

[1:14:09] >> If that is our operating

[1:14:10] procedure, it is news to me.

[1:14:13] Anyway, Councillor Tremblay?

[1:14:14] >> Yes, I received quite a

[1:14:16] number of them. I was way for

[1:14:17] ten, 12 days, so I'm really

[1:14:19] behind on my work. And once I

[1:14:21] have time, I will read them all

[1:14:22] individually and respond

[1:14:25] accordingly. Pardon?

[1:14:26] >> They're all the same.

[1:14:28] >> There was a lot of cutting

[1:14:30] and pasting, but some people a

[1:14:31] little personalized.

[1:14:32] >> Some are a little different.

[1:14:34] >> I'm sure your voters would

[1:14:36] appreciate if they had written

[1:14:37] you a personal one. Thank you

[1:14:39] for that as well. And I know

[1:14:41] that things have been crazy with

[1:14:43] the flooding and stuff, I just

[1:14:45] -- there is no deadline for

[1:14:47] replies. We are happy to hear

[1:14:48] them at anytime. So thank you.

[1:14:53] >> Thank you Miss stack oh.. The

[1:14:59] us concludes question period.

[1:15:08] 5,1, je pense. 5.1 File the

[1:15:11] report pertaining to the

[1:15:12] register held from August 26 to

[1:15:13] 30, 2024, with respect to By-law

[1:15:14] PC-2976. No signature was

[1:15:19] received concerning the

[1:15:22] 4,075,000 dollar borrowing bylaw

[1:15:23] offer professional services for

[1:15:25] infrastructure works.

[1:15:26] Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

[1:15:27] projet de Règlement décrétant un

[1:15:28] emprunt à long terme et une

[1:15:29] dépense en immobilisations de 1

[1:15:30] 635 000 $ pour des travaux dans

[1:15:31] les parcs, espaces verts,

[1:15:35] berges, pistes cyclables et

[1:15:36] plateaux sportifs. Plus

[1:15:40] précisément, pour la

[1:15:41] construction à la reconstruction

[1:15:43] aménagement et réaménagements la

[1:15:45] réflexion fourniture

[1:15:46] installations de muret à

[1:15:48] prévoir, mobilier urbain,

[1:15:49] équipements de jeu, pistes

[1:15:51] cyclables, clôture berges, la

[1:15:53] touche sportif en droit de

[1:15:55] détente, surface de jeu et

[1:15:56] travaux connexes ainsi que la

[1:15:58] main-d'oeuvre affectée,

[1:15:59] spécifiquement ces projets en

[1:16:00] divers endroits du secteur

[1:16:01] résidentiel de la ville. Le

[1:16:03] montant financé sera remboursé

[1:16:04] par le biais d'une taxe imposée

[1:16:05] à l'ensemble de la municipalité

[1:16:07] sur la base de la valeur

[1:16:08] foncière des immeubles

[1:16:10] imposables et ce sera une

[1:16:11] période de 20 ans. >> 5.3 Notice

[1:16:15] of motion and filing of a draft

[1:16:16] By-law decreeing a long-term

[1:16:17] borrowing and capital

[1:16:18] expenditures in the amount of $

[1:16:19] 2,555,000 for municipal

[1:16:20] infrastructure works in various

[1:16:21] locations. We are talking about

[1:16:25] construction, reconstruction,

[1:16:26] repair, rehabilitation works for

[1:16:28] sidewalks, curbs, services,

[1:16:30] water main, sanitary sewer,

[1:16:32] storm sewers, service

[1:16:33] connection, street foundation,

[1:16:35] paving, rural lighting, and

[1:16:37] related works, as well as

[1:16:38] labour, specifically assigned to

[1:16:40] these projects at various

[1:16:41] locations, the amount to be

[1:16:43] finance will be reimbursed by a

[1:16:44] tax levied on the entire

[1:16:45] municipality based on the

[1:16:46] property value of taxable

[1:16:48] buildings or a 20-year period.

[1:16:49] 5.4 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

[1:16:50] projet de Règlement décrétant un

[1:16:51] emprunt à long terme et une

[1:16:53] dépense en immobilisations de 3

[1:16:54] 690 000 $ pour divers travaux

[1:16:55] devant être exécutés sur les

[1:16:56] bâtiments de la Ville.

[1:17:02] Divers travaux de toiture,

[1:17:04] Fondation enveloppe portefeuille

[1:17:06] nette, quel Carew maçonnerie,

[1:17:08] escaliers peinture céramique

[1:17:10] fournitures installations

[1:17:12] remplacements mise aux normes

[1:17:13] des règlements

[1:17:14] (---)

[1:17:15] pour la chaleur, la ventilation

[1:17:17] et l'air conditionné. Plomberie,

[1:17:20] protection incendie structure

[1:17:21] mise aux normes, réaménagement à

[1:17:22] nouveau connexes en lien avec

[1:17:24] les pays que la main d'heure

[1:17:26] spécifiquement à ces projets. Le

[1:17:28] montant financier sera

[1:17:29] remboursée par le biais d'une

[1:17:30] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

[1:17:31] municipalité sur la base de la

[1:17:32] valeur foncière des immeubles

[1:17:34] imposables et sur une période de

[1:17:35] 20. >> 5.5 Notice of motion and

[1:17:39] filing of a draft By-law

[1:17:40] decreeing a long-term borrowing

[1:17:41] and capital expenditures in the

[1:17:42] amount of $ 4,855,000 for

[1:17:45] electrical works in various

[1:17:46] locations. It's the replacement

[1:17:49] in repairs work for lighting,

[1:17:51] luminaries, boxes, traffic

[1:17:52] lights, upgrades, conduit,

[1:17:54] wherein control systems, U.P.S.

[1:17:56] systems in various works, as

[1:17:57] well as labour directly

[1:17:58] associated with these projects.

[1:17:59] The amount to be finance will be

[1:18:01] reimbursed by a tax levied on

[1:18:02] the entire municipality based on

[1:18:04] the property value of taxable

[1:18:06] buildings or a 20-year period.

[1:18:08] 5.6 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

[1:18:09] projet de Règlement décrétant un

[1:18:10] emprunt à long terme et une

[1:18:11] dépense en immobilisations de 6

[1:18:12] 285 000 $ pour des services

[1:18:13] professionnels et la réalisation

[1:18:14] de travaux majeurs

[1:18:15] d'infrastructures municipales en

[1:18:16] divers endroits.

[1:18:20] Services professionnels les

[1:18:22] constructions, reconstruction,

[1:18:24] réflexion réhabilitation de

[1:18:25] trottoirs bordures, dalle de

[1:18:27] béton, mailles, structure de

[1:18:29] béton, viaducs passerelle,

[1:18:30] Service des conduites d'eau,

[1:18:31] égouts, sanitaires et pluviales

[1:18:32] Fondation de, rue pavage,

[1:18:33] éclairage routier, et travaux

[1:18:34] connexes, ainsi que la

[1:18:35] main-d'oeuvre affectées

[1:18:36] spécifiquement ses proches dans

[1:18:37] divers endroits.

[1:18:40] Le montant a financé sera

[1:18:41] remboursé par le biais d'une

[1:18:42] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

[1:18:44] municipalité sera la base de la

[1:18:47] valeur foncière des immeubles

[1:18:48] importants options période de 20

[1:18:49] ans. >> For 5.2 to 5.6, who

[1:18:54] moves these notices of motion?

[1:18:56] >> Mister Mayor, I will

[1:18:58] presently, but first I would

[1:18:59] like to address a point of

[1:19:00] privilege.

[1:19:01] >> Sure.

[1:19:02] >> I was accused of having a

[1:19:03] caretaker of an apartment

[1:19:04] building fired. It took me

[1:19:06] awhile to remember exactly the

[1:19:08] details, but that was the

[1:19:12] scurrilous accusation, and I

[1:19:13] will tell you what happened.

[1:19:15] That caretaker was met, with

[1:19:20] some children, black children,

[1:19:22] playing in the driveway of that

[1:19:25] apartment building, and instead

[1:19:26] of correcting what ever he

[1:19:28] thought might have been bad

[1:19:29] behaviour, he called the police.

[1:19:31] This caused an incident and the

[1:19:34] parents of those children were

[1:19:35] deeply hurt and offended and the

[1:19:37] children were thereafter afraid

[1:19:38] of going outside to play because

[1:19:41] this guy had called the cops on

[1:19:43] them. So I got in touch of the

[1:19:45] chief executive officer of the

[1:19:47] land owner, which was North

[1:19:48] Cliff, not north of you, Mr.

[1:19:51] Stork, and told him that I

[1:19:53] thought -- actually, I did get

[1:19:55] in touch with him. I worked with

[1:19:56] the tenants, they got in touch

[1:19:59] with the owner of the apartment

[1:20:03] buildings, the company that

[1:20:04] owned them, and suggested they

[1:20:07] apology was in order. And

[1:20:10] eventually, the chief executive

[1:20:12] officer of North Cliff issued

[1:20:13] that apology to the parents of

[1:20:15] those children. And then the

[1:20:18] caretaker subsequently quit his

[1:20:20] job after a while. The children

[1:20:23] were no longer afraid to come

[1:20:24] out and play, but I guess he,

[1:20:26] was so he left. So I had nobody

[1:20:28] fired. With that said, I follow

[1:20:34] a notice of motion four items

[1:20:35] 5.1 to 5.6.

[1:20:42] >> 5.7 Public consultation

[1:20:44] regarding a draft by-Law

[1:20:45] amending the Village Code,

[1:20:46] By-Law PC-2880 of the City of

[1:20:47] Pointe-Claire, regarding

[1:20:49] authorized residential use

[1:20:50] classes as well as the layout of

[1:20:52] parking spaces required for

[1:20:53] class B dwellings in UP8. The

[1:20:54] draft by-law contains one --

[1:20:58] this bylaws permit duplex type

[1:21:00] dwellings in this zone. The

[1:21:02] Council adopts the second draft

[1:21:03] bylaw provided for the following

[1:21:05] item, I notice will be published

[1:21:06] inviting residents of the zone

[1:21:07] covered by the draft bylaw as

[1:21:09] well as those of contiguous

[1:21:10] zones to submit an application

[1:21:12] for the opening of a register.

[1:21:14] The number of applications

[1:21:15] required will be specified in

[1:21:16] the notice it is based on the

[1:21:18] number of qualified voters in

[1:21:19] the identified zones. If the

[1:21:21] number of requests is reached,

[1:21:23] the city will have to open a

[1:21:25] register and which the people in

[1:21:26] the zones from which the request

[1:21:28] originate can sign to request

[1:21:29] that referendum be held. Note

[1:21:31] that Council may withdraw the

[1:21:33] byline and anytime during the

[1:21:34] procedure. This draft bylaw

[1:21:36] contains one or more provisions

[1:21:37] making it a bylaw subject to

[1:21:39] approval by way of a referendum.

[1:21:43] >> People present may address

[1:21:45] Council on this bylaw. And the

[1:21:48] same applies for the next item,

[1:21:50] which is the public consultation

[1:21:52] regarding another draft bylaw.

[1:21:54] 5.8 Assemblée publique de

[1:21:55] consultation concernant un

[1:21:56] projet de règlement modifiant le

[1:21:57] Règlement de zonage PC-2775 de

[1:21:58] la Ville de Pointe-Claire afin

[1:21:59] de modifier les dispositions

[1:22:00] touchant les équipements

[1:22:02] électriques et mécaniques,

[1:22:03] l'aménagement des espaces

[1:22:05] extérieurs des zones

[1:22:06] industrielles, les matériaux de

[1:22:07] revêtement classes a et b, les

[1:22:08] clôtures, les enceintes de

[1:22:09] piscine de même que certains

[1:22:11] équipements récréatifs

[1:22:12] résidentiels. Le projet de

[1:22:13] règlement ne contient aucune

[1:22:14] disposition propre à un

[1:22:15] règlement susceptible

[1:22:16] d'approbation référendaire.

[1:22:32] Encore une fois, les principes

[1:22:34] présents peuvent s'adresser au

[1:22:35] Conseil. >> So we will move on

[1:22:40] to 5.9, Adoption of a second

[1:22:42] draft by-Law amending the

[1:22:43] Village Code, By-Law PC-2880 of

[1:22:44] the City of Pointe-Claire,

[1:22:45] regarding authorized residential

[1:22:46] use classes as well as the

[1:22:47] layout of parking spaces

[1:22:48] required for class B dwellings

[1:22:49] in UP8. 5.10 Adoption d'un

[1:22:53] Règlement modifiant le Règlement

[1:22:54] de zonage PC-2775 de la Ville de

[1:22:55] Pointe-Claire afin de modifier

[1:22:56] les dispositions touchant les

[1:22:57] équipements électriques et

[1:22:58] mécaniques, l'aménagement des

[1:22:59] espaces extérieurs des zones

[1:23:00] industrielles, les matériaux de

[1:23:01] revêtement classes A et B, les

[1:23:02] clôtures, les enceintes de

[1:23:03] piscine de même que certains

[1:23:04] équipements récréatifs

[1:23:05] résidentiels.

[1:23:13] Pour 5,9 à 5,10... Bruno

[1:23:16] Tremblay, saignerais district

[1:23:17] six.

[1:23:18] Do I have a mover?

[1:23:19] >> -- District to.

[1:23:21] >> And second? Or

[1:23:23] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:23:24] >> All in favour?

[1:23:26] >> Thank you. So 6.1 and six

[1:23:28] point 22 have been withdrawn, we

[1:23:30] will go to six point, three

[1:23:33] Grant a financial support for a

[1:23:34] total amount of $ 1,520 to the

[1:23:35] Montreal Police Brotherhood. The

[1:23:36] financial aid for the 56th

[1:23:39] annual beat lunch fund-raiser,

[1:23:41] organized by the Montréal police

[1:23:42] brotherhood, this fund-raiser

[1:23:44] will be held at the same time as

[1:23:45] the international seniors day

[1:23:46] and the 40th anniversary of aid

[1:23:48] for seniors. 190 meals will be

[1:23:51] purchased by the City of

[1:23:52] Pointe-Claire at $8 each for the

[1:23:54] event for a total of $1,520.

[1:23:56] This event will be held on

[1:23:57] October 25th, 2024.

[1:23:59] >> For 6.3, do I have a mover?

[1:24:06] >> And seconder?

[1:24:08] - Pouvez-vous le dire abord,

[1:24:10] messieurs Bissonnette. >> Are

[1:24:13] you seconder? Do I have a

[1:24:14] seconder? Are you a seconder?

[1:24:18] >> Eric Stork --

[1:24:23] >> All in favour?

[1:24:24] >> Who is the seconder.

[1:24:32] All in favour? We did vote,

[1:24:35] didn't we? 6.4 Demande présentée

[1:24:39] au CIUSSS de l'Ouest-del'Île

[1:24:40] concernant la Maison des aînés

[1:24:41] de Pointe-Claire.

[1:24:46] La Ville de Pointe-Claire

[1:24:47] demande au CIUSSS de l'Ouest à

[1:24:48] liste de veiller à ce que les

[1:24:49] heures de comme détail approprie

[1:24:51] soit aménagé à l'intérieur et à

[1:24:53] l'extérieur de l'immeuble prévue

[1:24:54] pour la maison des aînés. Afin

[1:24:57] d'accueillir de la verdure et un

[1:24:58] jardin avec des sièges

[1:24:59] appropriés pour les résidents et

[1:25:01] les visiteurs et que des mesures

[1:25:03] soient prises pour faciliter

[1:25:04] l'accès à la maison des aînés. À

[1:25:06] ses fins, la Ville de

[1:25:08] Pointe-Claire s'engage à

[1:25:09] collaborer étroitement avec le

[1:25:10] CIUSSS de l'ouest de l'île sur

[1:25:11] une base régulière afin d'aider

[1:25:12] à maintenir une qualité de vie

[1:25:14] souhaitable pour les résidents

[1:25:15] et les voisins de la maison des

[1:25:17] aînés.

[1:25:19] - Pour 6,4... 8.1 Autoriser la

[1:25:21] participation d'une employée au

[1:25:22] Forum Ville Viables 2024

[1:25:23] organisé par Conseil

[1:25:24] international pour les

[1:25:25] initiatives écologiques locales

[1:25:26] (ICLEI)

[1:25:27] , devant se tenir du 23 au 25

[1:25:28] octobre 2024 à Vancouver,

[1:25:29] Colombie-Britannique. Do I have

[1:25:30] a mover? And seconder?

[1:25:31] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:25:32] >> All in favour?

[1:25:33] >> 7.1 Appoint members to the

[1:25:34] Environment and Sustainable

[1:25:35] Development Advisory Committee.

[1:25:37] This process serves to recommend

[1:25:38] the nomination of three new

[1:25:40] citizen members with a voting

[1:25:41] right to the environment and

[1:25:43] sustainable development advisory

[1:25:44] committee, namely came Matt, is

[1:25:46] Sheila arson, and Matthew

[1:25:48] Lapointe. Mandates will begin

[1:25:50] today October 1st 2024 and will

[1:25:52] end October six 2026, with

[1:25:54] possibility of renewal.

[1:26:11] Participation de madame a laissé

[1:26:13] une surveiller, conseillère

[1:26:15] principale, développement

[1:26:16] durable et transition

[1:26:20] écologique... les forums des

[1:26:24] villes vivable est-elle

[1:26:25] événement phare de

[1:26:26] (inaudible)

[1:26:27] conçu pour rassembler les

[1:26:28] communautés. International

[1:26:29] council for local environmental

[1:26:30] initiatives.

[1:26:41] Locales

[1:26:42] (ICLEI)

[1:26:43] soutient l'action locale

[1:26:44] (---)

[1:26:45] la résilience, la durabilité les

[1:26:46] objectifs de biodiversité.

[1:26:48] - Pour 7,1 à 8,1...

[1:26:51] Do I have a mover?

[1:26:52] >> I move to approve, Tara

[1:26:55] Stainforth, district four.

[1:26:56] >> And seconder?

[1:26:58] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[1:27:00] >> All in favour? - Merci! 9.1

[1:27:04] Approve the evaluation criteria

[1:27:05] to be used within the framework

[1:27:06] of a call for tenders to be

[1:27:07] launched for professional photo

[1:27:08] and video services. These

[1:27:10] criteria, based in large part on

[1:27:12] competence and achievements,

[1:27:13] will be used by the committee

[1:27:15] developing the bids received.

[1:27:16] Approuver les critères

[1:27:17] d'évaluation devant être

[1:27:18] employés dans le cadre de

[1:27:19] l'appel d'offre devant être

[1:27:20] lancé pour des services

[1:27:21] professionnels en graphisme. Ces

[1:27:22] critères basés notamment sur la

[1:27:24] compétence et les réalisations

[1:27:25] seront utilisés par le comité

[1:27:26] qui évaluera les soumissions

[1:27:28] reçues. >> For 9.1 and 9.2, do I

[1:27:33] have a mover?

[1:27:34] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[1:27:35] >> And seconder?

[1:27:37] Claude Cousineau, district un.

[1:27:39] >> All in favour?

[1:27:43] >> 10.1 two File the list of

[1:27:45] budget amendments and the

[1:27:46] register of cheques for the

[1:27:47] period of August 24, 2024, to

[1:27:48] September 20, 2024.

[1:27:51] 10.2 Adhérer au regroupement du

[1:27:52] ministère de la Cybersécurité et

[1:27:53] du Numérique pour les solutions

[1:27:54] d'infrastructure-service

[1:27:55] (IAAS)

[1:27:56] , de plateformesservice

[1:27:57] (PAAS)

[1:27:58] et de logiciels-service

[1:27:59] (SAAS)

[1:28:00] reliées.

[1:28:01] Le service nous permettra

[1:28:02] d'avoir un stockage illimité

[1:28:04] ainsi que les fonctionnalités et

[1:28:06] Discovery sauvegardait

[1:28:07] restauration pour nos 525

[1:28:10] licences. Les services de

[1:28:11] sauvegarde couvrent nos licences

[1:28:12] Office 365 ainsi que OneDrive,

[1:28:15] Sharp pointe et Thames. >> 10.3

[1:28:19] Authorize a budget amendment due

[1:28:20] to a water consumption

[1:28:21] adjustment and rate adjustment

[1:28:24] for the year 2023 received from

[1:28:25] the City of Montreal. The value

[1:28:26] of the Adjustment is $237,000

[1:28:30] and $20.02, and the ballots

[1:28:32] available in the budget is

[1:28:35] $109,758. Consequently, a budget

[1:28:37] a man in the amount of

[1:28:41] $127,263.02 is acquired. 10.4

[1:28:42] Octroyer un contrat pour des

[1:28:43] services d'entretien et

[1:28:44] d'assistance technique pour les

[1:28:45] produits PG Solutions, à PG

[1:28:46] Solutions, pour un montant total

[1:28:47] de 196 946,43 $, taxes incluses.

[1:28:54] Les logiciels visés sont accès

[1:28:56] territoire, accès cités et

[1:28:57] territoires, accès citer

[1:28:59] documents assez aux finances,

[1:29:01] assez aux loisirs, les logiciels

[1:29:03] musique et accès citée en ligne

[1:29:04] pour la ligne 2025.

[1:29:07] - Pour 10,2 à 10,4. Do I have a

[1:29:10] movie?

[1:29:11] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:29:13] >> Seconder?

[1:29:17] >> All in favour? 11.1 File the

[1:29:22] audit report from la Commission

[1:29:23] municipale du Québec regarding

[1:29:24] the by-law adoption process. In

[1:29:26] accordance with section 86.8 of

[1:29:27] the act respecting the

[1:29:29] commission of Municipalities, we

[1:29:30] are artists submit to Council a

[1:29:33] follow-up report on the

[1:29:34] implementation of

[1:29:35] recommendations concerning the

[1:29:36] bylaw adoption process. The

[1:29:37] audit was carried out by the sea

[1:29:38] M Q with four cities of the

[1:29:40] population between 10,000 and

[1:29:44] 99,999. The City of

[1:29:45] Pointe-Claire was one of 23

[1:29:46] cities audited.

[1:29:48] 11.2 Approuver une entente à

[1:29:49] intervenir avec Réseau de

[1:29:50] transport métropolitain

[1:29:51] (EXO)

[1:29:52] concernant la prolongation de

[1:29:53] l'interruption du délai de

[1:29:54] prescription. Il est dans

[1:29:55] l'intérêt des parties de

[1:29:57] s'entendre pour une interruption

[1:29:58] des prescriptions concernant

[1:29:59] tous les sommes qui seraient

[1:30:00] dues entre elles. Relations avec

[1:30:01] les ententes pour le partage des

[1:30:03] responsabilités affaire ont à

[1:30:04] l'entretien, aux travaux mineurs

[1:30:05] et aux travaux majeurs des trois

[1:30:07] gares couvrant la période du 1er

[1:30:08] janvier 2019 au 31 mai 2023. >>

[1:30:12] For 11.2, do I have a mover?

[1:30:15] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:30:17] >> Seconder?

[1:30:18] >> Claude Cousineau, district

[1:30:20] two.

[1:30:21] >> All those in favour?

[1:30:22] >> Thank you. 12.1 File the list

[1:30:26] of delegated staff changes for

[1:30:27] the month of October 2024. 12.2

[1:30:28] Approuver la liste des

[1:30:29] changements au personnel par

[1:30:30] décisions non déléguées au 1

[1:30:31] octobre 2024. Fort 12,2, un 14.2

[1:30:34] Octroyer un contrat pour la

[1:30:35] fourniture et livraison d'un

[1:30:36] (1)

[1:30:37] godet tamiseur neuf pour

[1:30:38] chargeuse sur roues, à Longus

[1:30:39] Equipment Inc., pour un montant

[1:30:40] total de 69 214,95 $, taxes

[1:30:41] incluses. Do I have a mover?

[1:30:42] >> I just want to -- I think

[1:30:43] somebody was potentially gonna

[1:30:44] vote against it. No, okay, I

[1:30:45] apologize. Eric Stork, district

[1:30:46] seven.

[1:30:47] >> And seconder?

[1:30:48] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[1:30:49] >> All in favour?

[1:30:54] >> So 14.1, Award a contract for

[1:30:57] the supply and the installation

[1:31:00] illuminated pedestrian

[1:31:01] crossings, to Trafic Innovation

[1:31:02] Inc., for a total amount of $

[1:31:04] 62,598.14, taxes included. The

[1:31:08] contract will be completed

[1:31:09] between mid September 2024 --

[1:31:12] 2024, and mid September 2025.

[1:31:28] >> 14.3 Award a contract for the

[1:31:29] supply and the delivery of two

[1:31:30] (2)

[1:31:31] used tracked sidewalk snow

[1:31:32] removal machines, to Les

[1:31:33] Equipments Plannord Ltée., For a

[1:31:34] total amount of $ 418,738.95,

[1:31:35] taxes included.

[1:31:40] 15.1 Octroyer un contrat pour

[1:31:41] des services professionnels pour

[1:31:42] une étude PFT de six piscines

[1:31:43] extérieures et leur chalet, à

[1:31:44] Cardin Julien Inc., pour un

[1:31:45] montant total de 193 158,00 $,

[1:31:46] taxes incluses.

[1:31:53] Cette étude servira à la

[1:31:56] planification des travaux à

[1:32:00] établir l'état de dégradation et

[1:32:01] les investissements nécessaires

[1:32:02] pour les années à venir. >> 15.2

[1:32:07] Approve a change order to the

[1:32:08] contract entered into with

[1:32:09] Groupe Cirtech Inc., for roofing

[1:32:10] works at Cedar and Ovide park

[1:32:12] chalets, for an amount of $

[1:32:13] 16,253.56, taxes included. The

[1:32:19] modification concerns the

[1:32:20] details of the parapet and

[1:32:21] slopes, which have been revised

[1:32:23] according to the structural

[1:32:24] engineers expertise. Do I have a

[1:32:30] mover?

[1:32:31] Claude Cousineau districts à 30.

[1:32:33] >> And seconder?

[1:32:35] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[1:32:37] >> All in favour?

[1:32:38] 16.1 Approuver une modification

[1:32:39] au contrat intervenu avec

[1:32:40] 7574479 Canada Inc., pour la

[1:32:41] réfection complète d'un escalier

[1:32:42] au parc Terra-Cotta, pour un

[1:32:43] montant de 5 546,39 $, taxes

[1:32:44] incluses.

[1:32:54] >> And 16.2, Approve a change

[1:32:57] order to the contract entered

[1:32:58] into with 130132 Canada Inc.

[1:32:59] (Larochelle Électrique)

[1:33:00] , for the installation of

[1:33:02] charging stations, for an amount

[1:33:03] of $ 14,082.82, taxes included.

[1:33:07] It is for a change in the

[1:33:09] calibre of the cables at the

[1:33:10] arena, City Hall, the library,

[1:33:12] all of Urquhart Sports Centre

[1:33:14] and Edgewater park.

[1:33:16] >> So for 16.1 and 16.2, do I

[1:33:19] have a mover?

[1:33:20] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:33:22] >> And seconder? All those in

[1:33:27] favour?

[1:33:28] >> Thank you. Les personnes

[1:33:32] présentes peuvent s'adresser au

[1:33:33] Conseil concernant les points

[1:33:37] 17,1 à 17 virgule. The persons

[1:33:38] present may address Council on

[1:33:40] the items 17.1 and 17.2 for

[1:33:43] minor exemption.

[1:33:46] 17.1 Considérer une demande de

[1:33:47] dérogation mineure concernant la

[1:33:48] propriété située au 25, avenue

[1:33:49] Claremont. Pour permettre une

[1:33:52] clôture d'une hauteur de 1,82

[1:33:54] mètres situé en marge avant,

[1:33:56] plus que le maximum permis de 1

[1:33:58] mètre. Vous avez une

[1:34:02] recommandation favorable du

[1:34:04] Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

[1:34:09] >> 17.2 Consider a minor

[1:34:10] exemption request concerning the

[1:34:11] property situated at 47 Little

[1:34:12] Rock Avenue. It is to permit the

[1:34:13] construction of a car port when

[1:34:14] it is not permitted by a

[1:34:16] particular provision in the E.R.

[1:34:18] 49, and a car port with the

[1:34:19] sidestep pack of 1.54 metres

[1:34:22] rather than the required win of

[1:34:24] 2.4 metres, and have a federal

[1:34:26] recommendation from the P.A.C..

[1:34:29] 17.3 Considérer les plans

[1:34:31] d'implantation et d'intégration

[1:34:32] architecturale relatifs à la

[1:34:33] propriété située au 60, avenue

[1:34:34] de Breslay. C'est une rénovation

[1:34:38] de fenêtres et le retrait de la

[1:34:40] cheminée vous avez une

[1:34:41] recommandation favorable du CCU.

[1:34:45] >> 17 point, four Consider the

[1:34:47] site planning and architectural

[1:34:48] integration programme plans with

[1:34:49] respect to the property situated

[1:34:50] at 119 Duke-of-Kent Avenue. It

[1:34:51] is concerning the removal of

[1:34:53] horizontal wood cladding on part

[1:34:54] of the first floor front facade

[1:34:56] to be replaced by artificial

[1:34:57] stone cladding. You have an

[1:34:59] unfavourable recommendation from

[1:35:00] the PRC.

[1:35:01] 17.5 Considérer les plans

[1:35:02] d'implantation et d'intégration

[1:35:03] architecturale relatifs à la

[1:35:04] propriété située au 107, avenue

[1:35:05] de la Pointe-Claire. Pour un

[1:35:08] changement de couleur démolir

[1:35:09] des fenêtres et des

[1:35:11] modifications au design de la

[1:35:12] véranda. Vous avez également une

[1:35:15] recommandation favorable du CCU.

[1:35:20] >> 17.6 Consider the site

[1:35:21] planning and architectural

[1:35:22] integration programme plans with

[1:35:23] respect to the property situated

[1:35:24] at 8 Victoria Avenue. It is

[1:35:25] concerning the change of the

[1:35:26] colour of the siding, the doors,

[1:35:28] and the windows, and to modify

[1:35:30] architectural details, and you

[1:35:31] have the favourable

[1:35:33] recommendation from the Planning

[1:35:34] Advisory Committee. Pour 17,1

[1:35:38] 17,6... 18.1 Approuver une

[1:35:39] entente à intervenir avec le

[1:35:40] Club de golf Beaconsfield pour

[1:35:41] l'implantation d'une piste de

[1:35:42] ski de fonds pour la saison

[1:35:43] hivernale 2024-2025. Do I have a

[1:35:44] mover?

[1:35:45] >> Brent Cowan, I moved to

[1:35:46] accept and confirm the

[1:35:47] recommendations of the Planning

[1:35:48] Advisory Committee for items 17

[1:35:49] point 12 items 17.6. Brent

[1:35:50] Cowan, district eight.

[1:35:51] >> And seconder?

[1:35:52] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[1:35:53] four.

[1:35:54] >> All in favour?

[1:35:55] >> Thank you.

[1:36:02] Cette entente permet la mission

[1:36:04] d'opérations d'une piste de ski

[1:36:05] de fond toute la saison sur un

[1:36:06] terrain qui n'est pas la

[1:36:07] propriété de la ville. >> 18.2

[1:36:11] Approve a lease to be entered

[1:36:12] into with Nada Niwan and Elie

[1:36:13] Merheb for the food concession

[1:36:14] at the Bob-Birne Arena. En 18,1

[1:36:18] à 18,2... 18.3 Approuver une

[1:36:20] entente à intervenir avec le

[1:36:21] Club aquatique de Pointe-Claire

[1:36:22] Inc. Do I have a mover?

[1:36:23] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[1:36:24] >> And seconder?

[1:36:27] >>

[1:36:28] >> All in favour?

[1:36:29] >> Mr. Stork. Thank you.

[1:36:33] Concernant l'établissement des

[1:36:35] lignes directrices de

[1:36:36] fonctionnement du Club, les

[1:36:37] modalités et les conditions

[1:36:38] relatives au versement, par la

[1:36:39] Ville, d'une subvention annuelle

[1:36:40] de fonctionnement et la mise à

[1:36:41] disposition du Club des

[1:36:42] installations et du matériel

[1:36:43] nécessaires à la réalisation de

[1:36:44] tout plan d'action.

[1:36:53] >> For 18.3, do I have a mover?

[1:36:57] >> Paul Bissonnette, district

[1:36:58] two.

[1:36:59] >> And seconder?

[1:37:02] >> All in favour?

[1:37:04] >> Thank you. 18.4 Approve a

[1:37:07] financial aid agreement to be

[1:37:08] entered into between the City of

[1:37:09] Pointe-Claire and AlterGo, in

[1:37:10] accordance with the Recreational

[1:37:12] Assistance for Persons with

[1:37:13] Disabilities Program of the

[1:37:14] ministre de l'Éducation, du

[1:37:15] Loisir et du Sport, for the

[1:37:16] implementation of the leisure

[1:37:17] support program of the Island of

[1:37:18] Montreal for 2024-2025

[1:37:19] (PALÎM)

[1:37:20] . This financial assistance

[1:37:24] program provide the support

[1:37:25] service for kids attending the

[1:37:27] City of Pointe-Claire's day

[1:37:28] camps.

[1:37:29] >> For 18.4, do I have a mover?

[1:37:33] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[1:37:34] four.

[1:37:35] >> And seconder?

[1:37:36] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[1:37:37] >> All in favour? 19,1, projet

[1:37:44] de contamination de

[1:37:45] réhabilitation des sols des lots

[1:37:47] deux cinq neuf c'est dix à huit

[1:37:49] des 4 millions 254 à 275 du

[1:37:52] canal du Québec. C'est des lots

[1:37:55] situés au 173 et 173 c'est

[1:37:57] avenue Cartier. Dans le cas du

[1:38:00] programme climat seul plus du

[1:38:01] ministère de l'Environnement de

[1:38:02] la lutte contre les changements

[1:38:04] climatiques, il s'agit d'appuyer

[1:38:05] le projet de côté comme telle

[1:38:07] nation et réhabilitation des

[1:38:08] sols des lots précédemment

[1:38:11] mentionnés et le dépôt par le

[1:38:13] propriétaire de l'immeuble

[1:38:16] (intervention en anglais)

[1:38:17] de la demande d'aide financière

[1:38:18] dans le cadre du programme qui

[1:38:19] va seul plus du mystère de

[1:38:20] l'environnement de la lutte

[1:38:21] contre les changements

[1:38:23] climatiques du gouvernement du

[1:38:24] Québec.

[1:38:26] - Par 19 points...

[1:38:28] Do I have a mover?

[1:38:29] - Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[1:38:31] >> And seconder?

[1:38:34] >> I'll second. Brent Cowan, but

[1:38:36] I'd like to go ahead and make a

[1:38:38] comment. This is actually an

[1:38:40] exercise in transparency. The

[1:38:42] contract -- or the owner

[1:38:43] contractor wants to get a grant

[1:38:45] in order to assist in the

[1:38:47] contamination of the soil around

[1:38:48] his property on Cartier. The

[1:38:51] government, in order -- the

[1:38:53] government of Québec, in order

[1:38:54] to issue that, grant requires

[1:38:56] that the City of Pointe-Claire

[1:38:57] know about it and approved the

[1:39:00] idea, acknowledge the idea. That

[1:39:02] means that you know about it so

[1:39:05] that this is a requirement for

[1:39:06] the grant, so the chain of

[1:39:10] transparency means the citizens

[1:39:11] of Pointe-Claire are aware that

[1:39:13] this decontamination project

[1:39:14] going on on that particular

[1:39:18] address on Cartier, which means

[1:39:19] if you live around there, you

[1:39:22] can -- you are now alerted. So I

[1:39:25] think it's an important lesson

[1:39:26] in how transparency Works and

[1:39:28] Government. So I second this

[1:39:30] motion.

[1:39:31] >> All in favour?

[1:39:37] >> Foreclosure, do I have a

[1:39:38] mover?

[1:39:39] >> I need to, close Tara

[1:39:40] Stainforth, district four.

[1:39:41] >> And seconder?

[1:39:43] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[1:39:44] Bonsoir merci tout le monde! >>

[1:39:45] All in favour? Thanks, thanks

[1:39:48] folks.

[1:39:49] | | |

2024-10-01 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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