[0:05] - ... Du 5 novembre 2024.

[0:08] Good evening, ladies and

[0:09] gentlemen. Welcome to the

[0:10] November 5th council

[0:12] meeting 2024.

[0:13] Nous sommes ravis de vous

[0:16] annoncer que le 23 octobre

[0:18] dernier, nous avons tenu une

[0:20] cérémonie officielle pour

[0:23] assermenter dix jeunes qui

[0:25] composent le comité consultatif

[0:28] jeunesse pour le mandat

[0:30] 2024 à 2025. Ce comité

[0:32] consultatif a pour mission de

[0:35] formuler des recommandations

[0:37] et de donner une voix aux

[0:40] jeunes citoyennes et citoyens

[0:42] afin d'enrichir les activités et

[0:45] les services qui leur sont

[0:47] destinés. We are delight to

[0:49] introduce the ten young people

[0:51] who make up the Youth Advisory

[0:54] Board for the 2024-2025 term.

[0:56] For the second term,

[0:58] we have Albi Çullhaj,

[1:01] "André" Gariépy, Olivia

[1:06] Ginnetti, Anastasia Sabapathy...

[1:11] Alexandre Gariépy, merci.

[1:14] They're joined by the following

[1:16] new members: Dina El Azzouzi,

[1:19] Jason Chen, Michelle Ruoying Li,

[1:24] Olivia Rogers, Tianna Maughn

[1:28] et Chloe Guan. For the past six

[1:29] years, the city of Pointe-Claire

[1:31] has relied on the Youth Advisory

[1:33] Board to make permanent

[1:35] recommandations on behalf of

[1:37] young people in Pointe-Claire.

[1:39] It's a great asset for a city

[1:41] like Pointe-Claire to be

[1:42] surrounded by a dynamic group of

[1:44] young people who represent the

[1:45] voice of their generation to the

[1:47] municipal administration

[1:49] and elected officials.

[1:50] We wish them success in carrying

[1:52] out their mandate and thank them

[1:55] sincerely for their involvement.

[1:57] Encore une fois cette année, le

[1:59] nouveaux propos ont un automne

[2:01] bien remplie pour vous faire

[2:04] sortir et participer aux

[2:05] événements et activités pour

[2:07] profiter de l'automne. Nous

[2:09] venons de publier le nouveau

[2:11] calendrier d'activité automnale

[2:13] et hivernales des parcs,

[2:16] spécialement conçu pour les

[2:17] jeunes de 8 à 18 ans. Ces

[2:21] activités organisées les

[2:23] vendredi dès 18 heures à 21

[2:26] heures offrait l'espace

[2:28] sécuritaire et dynamique pour

[2:30] cette ouverture et socialiser.

[2:32] Cette saison, une variété

[2:35] d'activités proposé des sports

[2:38] les soirée cinéma, une sortie au

[2:42] qui est bien plus encore. Il y

[2:44] en a pour tous les goûts.

[2:47] Permettons à chacun et chacune

[2:48] de trouver l'activité qui lui

[2:50] convenait.

[2:52] Once again, we've got a busy

[2:53] fall in the store to get you out

[2:55] and about in participing in

[2:57] events and activities to make

[2:58] the most of November.

[3:00] We just annonced a new fall and

[3:02] winter parks program, specially

[3:04] designed for youth aged 8 to 18.

[3:06] These activities held every

[3:08] Friday from 6 to 9 PM provide

[3:10] a safe and engaging space

[3:12] for fun and socializing.

[3:14] Registration is done on site on

[3:16] the day of the activity. Youth

[3:18] are free to participate and

[3:20] enjoy the flexibility to come

[3:22] and go as they please.

[3:24] Expo-sciences. Les centres

[3:28] culturel accueille une nouvelle

[3:30] exposition des sciences, les

[3:32] neuf et 19 membres. Un nombre de

[3:36] domaines scientifiques selon

[3:37] (inaudible)

[3:38] tout au long de la fin de

[3:39] semaine. Dans la physique, la

[3:43] chimie, la biologie est bien

[3:47] d'autres. Jeunes et moins jeunes

[3:49] pourront vivre à des expériences

[3:50] qui trouveront des réponses à

[3:52] leurs questions dans un

[3:56] environnement créatif.

[3:57] In collaboration with Concordia

[3:59] University, Stewart Hall will be

[4:01] hosting the interactive science

[4:03] exhibition for children, parents

[4:05] and the general public

[4:06] to demystify science.

[4:08] A number of scientific fields

[4:10] will be reprensented all weekend

[4:12] including physics, chemistry,

[4:14] engineering, biology

[4:17] and many others.

[4:19] Kids and adults will find

[4:21] answers to their questions in a

[4:23] fun and creative environment.

[4:25] Le jour du Souvenir. C'est le 10

[4:28] novembre prochain qui nous

[4:30] inviterons les citoyens citoyens

[4:34] apprendre par dé jour du

[4:37] Souvenir dès 10 heures 30. Pour

[4:39] l'occasion, tout la communauté

[4:41] de Pointe-Claire étaient invités

[4:42] à porter le coquelicot, symbole

[4:47] associé à la mémoire de ceux qui

[4:50] sont morts à la guerre pour

[4:52] défendre la liberté et... la

[4:54] liberté dont nous profitons tous

[4:55] les jours. La cérémonie se

[4:59] déroulera à 10 heures 30, au

[5:02] centre cénotaphe, monument à la

[5:05] mémoire des soldats disparus à

[5:07] l'arrière de l'hôtel de ville.

[5:10] Les drapeaux seront mis en

[5:11] branle pour l'occasion. Et

[5:15] seront également pour le jour du

[5:17] Souvenir, le 11 novembre. We

[5:20] invite citizens to take part in

[5:21] the Remembrance Day

[5:22] commemoration ceremony on

[5:23] Sunday, November 10th starting

[5:24] at 10:30 a.m..

[5:27] For the occasion, entire

[5:29] Pointe-Claire community is to

[5:31] wear a poppy, a symbol associate

[5:33] with the memory of those who

[5:34] died in the war to defend the

[5:35] freedoms we still enjoy every

[5:38] day. The ceremony will take

[5:39] place at 10:30 a.m. at the

[5:42] cenotaph behind city hall. A

[5:43] monument built in the memory of

[5:45] fallen soldiers. Flags will be

[5:48] flown at half mast for the

[5:50] occasion. It will also be

[5:51] lowered for Remembrance Day on

[5:52] November 11th. Le train des

[5:58] fêtes passera à l'agora Valois,

[6:01] les ventres du 22 novembre

[6:04] prochain. C'est un rendez-vous

[6:05] n'est pas moi qui! C'est facile

[6:08] à manquer... le 30 novembre,

[6:09] venez nous rejoindre pour

[6:10] célébrer l'élimination de

[6:11] l'arbre de Noël dans le village

[6:12] de Pointe-Claire. It is in and

[6:13] out, but it's fun.

[6:20] Les festivités promettre d'être

[6:22] mémorable et sont ouvertes à

[6:24] tous les citoyennes et tous les

[6:26] citoyens petit écran.

[6:30] Holiday train will be passing on

[6:32] bylaw station on Friday,

[6:33] November 22nd to join us for the

[6:35] occasion. On November 30th,

[6:37] celebrate with us the lighting

[6:38] of the Christmas tree in the

[6:39] village of Pointe-Claire. The

[6:41] festivities promised to be

[6:43] memorable and are open to all

[6:44] citizens, young and old. Thank

[6:46] you. Merci à toutes et à tous!

[6:57] We do Councillors opening.

[7:01] Council reports, I will start

[7:02] with district A.

[7:08] >> I've been working very hard

[7:10] the last week distributing

[7:12] poppies properties, managing the

[7:14] poppy campaign. I see most

[7:15] people are wearing them so I

[7:16] think it's working. I cannot

[7:17] report so far we collected

[7:18] around $43,000 for the

[7:20] generosity of the people of

[7:21] Pointe-Claire. Thank you.

[7:24] >> Councillor?

[7:29] Rien de spécial Monsieur le

[7:31] Maire.

[7:36] >> Good evening. Bonsoir. Just

[7:39] an update on the project on

[7:42] Lakeshore, Lakeside and

[7:43] Lakeview. On Lakeview, by the

[7:45] end of November, paving will be

[7:46] finished. D'ici la fin novembre,

[7:47] il y aura le pavage permanent du

[7:49] Conseil des entrées.

[7:58] Et terrasse Armand, Savage de se

[8:02] chaussées...

[8:03] (---)

[8:04] . On Lakeshore between Lakeview

[8:08] the paving and the driveways how

[8:13] completed. Now one lakeshore to

[8:15] lakeside, la Ville de

[8:18] Montréal procédera au pavage

[8:20] temporaire de la chaussée.

[8:22] Et des entrées d'ici le 20

[8:25] décembre. So Up until December

[8:29] 20th, between Lakeside on the

[8:32] lakeshore, there will be doing a

[8:35] temporary paving of the roadway

[8:38] and the driveways.

[8:41] The contractor has -- will be

[8:44] coming back in spring of 2025 to

[8:47] finish the sidewalks, some

[8:51] foundations and permanent paving

[8:54] between terrasse and lakeside.

[8:56] Il y a environ trois ou quatre

[8:58] semaines de fermeture complète

[8:59] du chemin bord du lac, sauf pour

[9:01] les autobus. During that time,

[9:03] spring of 25, the lakes will be

[9:05] closed for 3 to 4 weeks for

[9:06] buses has a finish the work

[9:07] there.

[9:10] According to the contract, the

[9:12] contractor has 590 days total to

[9:15] do the work and that takes them

[9:17] up to 11th of June, 2025 to

[9:21] finish everything. I know it has

[9:23] been difficult since

[9:26] administration has worked hard.

[9:32] Mr. Tanguay has worked very hard

[9:33] and trying to control the

[9:34] traffic a little bit. That is

[9:36] why the buses were really rooted

[9:38] in all kinds of things were

[9:39] done. It was a Montréal project,

[9:43] however, the people that are and

[9:47] trying to do what they can to

[9:48] try to make things better and

[9:49] easier. Le gouvernement de

[9:50] proximité... c'est presque fini.

[9:54] It has been a difficult project

[9:57] but nearing the end. Merci pour

[10:00] votre patience. C'est! Thanks

[10:02] for your patience.

[10:05] C'est tout, pardon. >>

[10:06] Councillor Homan?

[10:07] >> Good evening, I want to

[10:09] mention that this weekend on

[10:11] Sunday from 10 to 2 they'll be a

[10:14] food drive by the West Island

[10:16] mission. We did it last year. It

[10:18] is called porch to pantry. We

[10:20] are asking everyone to be very

[10:21] generous. If you can put out

[10:23] your donations in a bag on your

[10:26] porch and just mark indicate on

[10:28] it West Island Mission.

[10:30] Volunteers will go round and

[10:31] drive and pick it up. There is

[10:32] information on the City website.

[10:35] For those that can look on my

[10:38] Facebook page and a few of the

[10:40] other many of the places. It's

[10:42] really important. It's a big

[10:44] need. We have been doing so

[10:46] many. I mean the old-timers did

[10:47] their wonderful food drive. I

[10:51] say it's that time of year. I

[10:53] feel like this year has been a

[10:55] constant so please be generous

[10:56] and thank you very much.

[10:59] Conseiller Tremblay! >> I think?

[11:03] Councillor Stork?

[11:05] - Bonjour à tous. >> Just a

[11:07] couple of follow-up points for

[11:08] the north and east have been.

[11:09] The bane of our existence is

[11:10] summer, the construction work on

[11:11] one drop is basically almost

[11:12] completed.

[11:14] They will be paving tomorrow,

[11:16] weather permitting. It will be

[11:18] so it is over for the winter and

[11:19] it will be continued about six

[11:20] weeks late. La première couche,

[11:21] comme ils disent.

[11:26] I commend the City for doing

[11:28] everything they can in terms of

[11:29] the work they did. They were

[11:30] there every day, making sure

[11:31] they did not start early to the

[11:33] best of their ability. The

[11:35] second point is there is an

[11:36] important thing on the agenda

[11:38] today that I think maybe has not

[11:40] given enough light. It is the

[11:43] passing of the notion to motion

[11:45] and acceptance, basically, of

[11:49] accessory dwelling units.

[11:50] Basically it's a new bylaw that

[11:52] has been done right across

[11:53] pretty much the world now to add

[11:57] accessory dwelling units to our

[11:58] homes. Whether allowing you to

[12:00] extend your garage provided that

[12:03] it is certain. Obviously zoning

[12:05] bylaws to build a little shed in

[12:06] the back four in last weeks and

[12:09] things like that. It's a real

[12:12] great initiative to increase the

[12:14] housing stock, let people stay

[12:15] in their homes, that the

[12:18] relatives, their parents stay in

[12:19] their home by heading a dwelling

[12:22] over your garage or in the

[12:23] backyard so I think that's a big

[12:25] thing. It's disgusting but I

[12:27] think it is -- I commend

[12:30] Councillor administration for

[12:31] doing that because we are in a

[12:33] housing crisis there's a lot of

[12:35] homes that needed. Outside of

[12:36] that, I thank you, Mister Mayor.

[12:49] Je vais le dire en français. >>

[12:50] The adoption of the agenda. Do I

[12:51] have a mover?

[12:54] >> District three.

[12:55] >> And seconder?

[12:57] >> District four.

[12:59] >> All in favour?

[13:01] >> Mister Mayor, I would like to

[13:02] address is, basically I'd like

[13:04] to move an amendment to have a

[13:06] vote on the following resolution

[13:08] added to the agenda. This

[13:11] resolution has was published, it

[13:12] has been modified quite a bit.

[13:15] It is basically as I mentioned

[13:17] last month or last two weeks ago

[13:19] at the special meeting and I

[13:21] just wanted to say a small

[13:22] little thing here. Here we go,

[13:26] as was discussed in the last

[13:27] special meeting, I believe this

[13:28] entire Council is committed to

[13:30] public consultation and public

[13:33] respect. As we committed to the

[13:34] last meeting we looked at the

[13:35] resolution and we are able to

[13:36] maintain some of the key points

[13:37] of the mayors resolution and

[13:39] have compiled the concerns of

[13:41] the rest of the council.

[13:42] Therefore, I'm proposing the

[13:43] following resolution to be added

[13:44] to the agenda today. It has

[13:47] changed, it has been watered

[13:48] down, it has been modified, it

[13:49] has been thinned out and it was

[13:51] a good party discussion in

[13:53] caucus to get to where we got so

[13:55] I think this is a positive and

[13:59] hopefully this will pass

[14:01] tonight. If somebody seconded,

[14:06] I'm sure they will say ten

[14:07] English. C'est une résolution

[14:08] visant à rétablir une approche

[14:10] claire pour envisager l'avenir

[14:11] des espaces verts privée par la

[14:15] participation du public un

[14:17] processus de consultation.

[14:19] Attendu que... le public

[14:21] démontre un fort intérêt à

[14:23] préserver les quelques forêts,

[14:25] milieux humides et habitats

[14:27] naturels et substances du

[14:28] territoire de Pointe-Claire.

[14:31] Considérant que les

[14:33] circonstances ont changé à

[14:35] savoir... le projet de loi 39 a

[14:37] été adopté par la

[14:38] (inaudible)

[14:39] du Québec qui attribue certains

[14:41] pouvoirs aux municipalités pour

[14:42] pouvoir protéger les espaces

[14:43] verts, les milieux humides, les

[14:45] forêts et les habitants

[14:47] naturels. Le projet de loi 21

[14:51] concerne la révision des

[14:52] procédures d'expropriation

[14:54] ouverte aux municipalités tel

[14:55] que Pointe-Claire, également

[14:58] être adapté par l'Assemblée

[15:00] nationale de Québec. Le

[15:04] (inaudible)

[15:05] le deuxième projet a été publié

[15:07] écarte... clarifier les

[15:08] exigences de la clarté

[15:10] Métropolis de Montréal et de

[15:12] l'agglomération de Montréal à

[15:13] l'écart de Pointe-Claire.

[15:14] Notamment, en ce qui a trait les

[15:16] (inaudible)

[15:17] densification dans les zones

[15:18] théoriques. Et, oui le maire a

[15:22] dit guépard... il y a deux

[15:25] semaines qu'il propose sur des

[15:27] consultations publiques qu'ils

[15:28] aimeraient cette consultation

[15:30] publique. Par conséquent, les

[15:32] résolu que l'administration de

[15:33] la Ville obtient les

[15:36] renseignements nécessaires à

[15:40] savoir... les mesures permises

[15:41] par la loi 39 pour protéger la

[15:43] valeur écologique des espaces

[15:47] verts.

[15:48] - Les droits de procédure et les

[15:50] coûts en vertu du projet de loi

[15:53] 22 en ce qui concerne des

[15:54] espaces verts privée. Les

[15:57] programmes... dernièrement, les

[15:59] programmes offerts par les

[16:00] niveaux supérieurs du

[16:02] gouvernement pour aider à

[16:04] l'acquisition sous la protection

[16:05] des espaces verts.

[16:08] L'administration ressemblerais

[16:09] et considérait des

[16:11] (inaudible)

[16:12] sous mentionnés dans un rapport

[16:14] initial pour concernés examiner

[16:16] le plus tard le ferry et 2025.

[16:20] Une fois révisée, le ballon

[16:21] d'action pour la

[16:22] (inaudible)

[16:23] du public sera annoncé de

[16:26] s'engager dans les processus

[16:28] consultatifs.

[16:34] En anglais.

[16:40] >> And seconder?

[16:42] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[16:43] district three.

[16:44] I would like to read the same

[16:45] resolution in English. We moved

[16:48] to propose resolution to

[16:50] reestablish a clear path forward

[16:51] for envisioning the future of

[16:53] green spaces through

[16:54] participation of the public in

[16:55] the consultation process with

[16:57] city planners. Whereas the

[16:59] public has a strong interest in

[17:01] preserving the-limited forest,

[17:03] wetlands and natural habitats

[17:04] that remain on the territory of

[17:06] Pointe-Claire. Whereas

[17:07] circumstances have now changed

[17:08] in that bill 39 has been adopted

[17:10] into law by the national of

[17:12] Québec, which has assigned

[17:13] certain powers to municipalities

[17:14] to protect green spaces,

[17:16] wetlands, fourth and natural

[17:19] habitats. Be Bill 22 considers

[17:22] the probation procedures that

[17:23] would open such as Pointe-Claire

[17:25] has also been adopted by the

[17:27] National simply a Pointe-Claire.

[17:31] C second draft has been

[17:32] released, which gives greater

[17:33] clarity regarding what the

[17:35] Montréal metropolitan community

[17:36] in the Montréal conglomeration

[17:38] will be required from

[17:40] Pointe-Claire specifically with

[17:41] respect intensification zones

[17:44] and points D, Mayor Thomas has

[17:48] indicated through his own recent

[17:49] proposed resolution on public

[17:51] consultations that he would like

[17:52] that public consultations.

[17:53] Therefore, be it resolved that

[17:54] the administration the sea of

[17:56] Pointe-Claire acquired the

[17:57] necessary information to it, a,

[18:01] measure under be threatening to

[18:02] protect the ecological value of

[18:04] private green spaces. The, right

[18:06] procedures and costs under built

[18:09] Bill 22 that would pertain to

[18:10] hybrid green spaces, C,

[18:12] program's offered by high your

[18:14] levels of government to assist

[18:15] in the acquisition or protection

[18:17] of green spaces. The

[18:19] administration will gather and

[18:21] consolidate the aforementioned

[18:23] information into initial report

[18:24] for Council to review no later

[18:25] than February 1st, 2025. Once

[18:28] reviewed, a public participation

[18:30] action plan will be announced to

[18:31] engage in the consultation

[18:34] process.

[18:35] >> Before we vote, would anybody

[18:37] like to speak? Councillor

[18:40] Cousineau?

[18:42] >> I noticed that on the

[18:44] document that we were handed

[18:47] over in French, it says didn't

[18:50] say the same thing in English in

[18:51] the title.

[18:52] Des espaces verts publics...

[18:54] privés.

[19:04] C'est supposé être les deux. >>

[19:05] Private green spaces.

[19:07] >> Thank you.

[19:09] >> Thank you.

[19:12] >> Councillor Cowan?

[19:14] >> I think is a great initiative

[19:15] to vote on this I hope my

[19:17] colleagues on the council will

[19:18] submit the change to the agenda

[19:19] so we can vote on this

[19:22] resolution.

[19:25] >> Anybody else? I will just

[19:27] speak to it quickly. We had an

[19:30] interesting meeting before

[19:32] tonight and I think possibly a

[19:35] breakthrough meeting but it was

[19:37] -- the city dramatically changed

[19:39] document from what many of you

[19:40] may have seen or heard about

[19:42] before this meeting. It is

[19:44] dramatically change and it shows

[19:45] the willingness to adapt and

[19:47] move forward and I think it's

[19:49] positive. It's a positive thing.

[19:52] My only concern in the current

[19:53] wording and I have not had

[19:54] enough time to a simulated, is

[19:56] that I would like the 30% green

[19:58] space emphasis to be installed

[20:01] -- inserted into the document.

[20:04] Maybe some more specifications

[20:05] adds to what type of

[20:07] consultation and what impact or

[20:08] how that consultation will be

[20:10] used. The information gleaned

[20:11] will be used. Other than that, I

[20:13] think it's a remarkable

[20:16] occurrence and I'm neutral

[20:20] positive. Moving forward, I

[20:21] think that is a good thing.

[20:26] >> The vote for the amendment.

[20:28] >> All in favour of the

[20:32] amendment added to the agenda?

[20:33] >> Hold on.

[20:35] >> Who is in favour for the

[20:37] amendment to vote?

[20:38] >> All in favour? How against?

[20:43] >> Then we go back to the

[20:46] adoption of the agenda with the

[20:50] amendment.

[20:51] >> For the adoption of the

[20:52] agenda with the amendment, do I

[20:53] have a mover?

[20:54] >> It was moved.

[20:55] >> It was previously moved and

[20:58] seconded.

[20:59] >> We just follow?

[21:00] >> It is about.

[21:01] >> All in favour?

[21:03] >> Thank you.

[21:05] >> Against?

[21:13] Proclamer le mois de juin comme

[21:14] étant le mois du patrimoine

[21:15] philippin. >> You will be happy

[21:18] to know that June will now be

[21:20] the official month, proclaim the

[21:22] month of June of Pointe-Claire's

[21:25] Filipino heritage month and we

[21:26] welcome the members of the

[21:28] Association here tonight and I

[21:29] believe they are speaking in

[21:31] first in question period. It's

[21:32] an honour to have you here and

[21:33] we are thrilled to do this.

[21:44] >> Sorry 3.1, to approve the

[21:46] meeting of October 21st, 2024,

[21:48] as well as a special meeting of

[21:49] October 15th, 2024.

[21:52] >> For the minutes for 3.1 to

[21:55] approve the minutes of Special

[21:56] meeting. To have a mover?

[22:01] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[22:02] district three.

[22:03] >> And seconder?

[22:07] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[22:09] four.

[22:10] >> All in favour? Perhaps the

[22:14] most important part of the

[22:15] evening Ce soir, nous allons

[22:17] rendre hommage à la mémoire de

[22:19] monsieur Denis Francis Smith,

[22:22] décédé le 18 septembre dernier,

[22:24] à l'âge de 74 ans. Il a servi

[22:27] les citoyens de la ville de

[22:29] Pointe-Claire en tant que

[22:31] conseiller municipal pendant 12

[22:33] années. Ce soir, nous avons

[22:36] invité son épouse, madame Karine

[22:39] faisait Baxter sa famille, ses

[22:43] amis ainsi que d'anciens maires

[22:44] et conseillers qui l'ont côtoyé

[22:48] durant ces montants. Il était

[22:52] enseignant, assistant de

[22:53] circonscription du député

[22:56] (intervention en anglais)

[22:57] est bénévole communautaire très

[22:58] impliqués auprès de notre

[23:00] communauté. Il a aussi été un

[23:03] acteur très important dans la

[23:04] lutte de Pointe-Claire pour la

[23:07] diffusion. En tant que

[23:09] conseiller municipal, il a

[23:12] représenté le district sept,

[23:14] North Viau, de 2005 à 2017. Il a

[23:18] toujours servi ses électeurs

[23:19] avec beaucoup de

[23:22] professionnalisme. Nous lui

[23:23] devons beaucoup. Nous offrons

[23:25] tous nos collègues...

[23:27] condoléances à sa famille et sa

[23:29] famille. This evening we pay

[23:31] tribute to the memory of Dennis

[23:32] Francis Smith, who passed away

[23:33] on September 18 at the age of

[23:34] 74.

[23:39] He served the citizens of

[23:41] Pointe-Claire as a municipal

[23:42] councillor for 12 years. This

[23:44] evening we have invited his

[23:48] wife, Mrs. Karen Zey tax, remind

[23:51] us we have former mayors and

[23:53] councillors who worked with him

[23:54] during his mandates. A teacher,

[23:57] constituency assistant to MP

[23:58] Clifford Lincoln, and longtime

[24:00] community volunteer, he was one

[24:01] of the leaders of

[24:02] Pointe-Claire's fight for

[24:04] demerger. He was representing

[24:07] District 7, Northview, from 2005

[24:09] to 2017, serving his

[24:10] constituents with

[24:12] professionalism. We owe him a

[24:13] dept of gratitude. We offer our

[24:17] sincere condolences to his son

[24:18] Adam who is watching this

[24:20] tribute online. And now I invite

[24:23] Madam Zey Baxter to join me, to

[24:24] receive a certificate of

[24:25] recognition from the City of

[24:27] Pointe-Claire. Pictures will be

[24:29] taken with those present with

[24:31] council members and special

[24:32] guest. I guess we will be doing

[24:33] this upfront.

[24:41] [Applause]

[24:45] (applaudissements)

[26:05] [Applause]

[26:35] [Applause]

[27:01] Merci Monsieur le Maire et

[27:04] membre du Conseil de nous avoir

[27:05] invités ce soir. Thank you very

[27:07] much, Mister Mayor and members

[27:08] of Council or for inviting us in

[27:09] this evening.

[27:12] Ça fait au-dessus de 20 ans...

[27:13] la deuxième fois que je l'ai vu,

[27:14] c'est monsieur Mike Murphy qui

[27:15] avait demandé à Denis et à

[27:16] monsieur Rob garde un qui n'est

[27:17] pas ce soir, de nous aider à

[27:18] participer au conseil municipal

[27:19] de Montréal. It's much

[27:20] appreciated by myself and my ex

[27:21] colleagues. They are still

[27:22] colleagues. Mister Mayor, you

[27:23] stole a few of my lines here

[27:24] that I was going to say this

[27:25] evening but I will say them

[27:27] anyway. I have known Denis over

[27:33] 20 years I have known Denis

[27:34] Smith. I believe the first time

[27:35] that I saw him, he was going

[27:38] into a local restaurant with

[27:41] friends for breakfast. This is

[27:44] maybe 22 years ago or something

[27:47] to that effect. I spoke to him

[27:51] and that is what the first time

[27:52] I met him. Then

[28:14] we were joining the Montréal

[28:17] political scene back then and,

[28:20] to be quite honest with you, we

[28:21] did not know too much about it

[28:23] and I don't think we know much

[28:24] more today but anyway that is

[28:26] another story. We had to raise

[28:33] money for the political machine

[28:35] in Montréal. Dennis was a big

[28:39] part of that and he sort of

[28:40] calmed us down. Okay, take it

[28:43] easy, we will find a way and

[28:44] there is always a way. The way

[28:47] it worked out was that we found

[28:52] -- had to raise I believe it was

[28:55] $10,000. That is right, it was

[28:56] $10,000. Dennis, after talking

[28:59] with various people, came up

[29:01] with a plan. Go and find ten of

[29:04] your friends and asked them to

[29:05] raise $100 from ten of their

[29:07] friends and that is how we ended

[29:09] up doing it. Dennis, as the

[29:14] mayor said earlier, he worked

[29:16] for Mr. Clifford Lincoln. Then

[29:21] he hit the big time. He became a

[29:23] Council in the City of

[29:26] Pointe-Claire. And he did an

[29:29] excellent job. In caucus, he had

[29:33] so many ideas that we were all

[29:37] in all of Dennis Smith. He never

[29:41] went halfway. He always went 100

[29:45] percent. When it was time for

[29:46] the elections, I know he helped

[29:50] me when I was running for mayor

[29:53] and the things he put out on the

[29:56] table, you should do this, you

[29:57] should do this. He said you

[30:01] should. He explained the right

[30:02] way to do it. I probably did

[30:05] most of them but not all of them

[30:09] because I just did not have the

[30:12] time but he never said, well you

[30:15] should've done this, and you

[30:16] should have done that. He was a

[30:18] true professional, Dennis Smith.

[30:25] When I say we, I am talking

[30:28] about X Councillors of

[30:29] Pointe-Claire. We would meet

[30:32] with Dennis, myself and we were

[30:34] about five or six. Used to have

[30:37] breakfast once a week, someone

[30:41] Pointe-Claire. I believe it was

[30:43] Dennis who came up with the

[30:45] name, we will call ourselves the

[30:49] Romeo's. Why the Romeo's? Well I

[30:52] will tell you why, he said, he

[30:55] said retired Old municipal

[30:58] elected officials. Romeo's.

[31:02] That's not even today. We are

[31:03] still called the Romeo's. To

[31:07] finish, I would like to say that

[31:10] Janice was on Council. He helped

[31:13] provincial elections but he was

[31:16] also on the board where he lives

[31:19] in the condo. He volunteered in

[31:24] Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue. I

[31:25] believe it was Nova and he never

[31:28] stopped. He never stopped.

[31:31] Anyway, for me and my colleagues

[31:34] and members of Council, Dennis

[31:37] was a very special person and we

[31:39] miss him. Thank you.

[31:43] [Applause]

[31:57] C'était excellent, merci

[31:58] beaucoup! >> Thank you, Mayor

[31:59] Trudeau. Période des. Question

[32:02] period. Pour la période de

[32:04] questions, vous avez été

[32:06] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous

[32:08] inscrire à la période de

[32:10] questions, afin de vous

[32:11] permettre de demeurer à vos

[32:13] places jusqu'à l'appel de votre

[32:15] nom.

[32:16] (inaudible)

[32:17] - Merci beaucoup. Absolutely.

[32:20] Merci! Thank you. Yes, there is

[32:28] something going on in the

[32:29] States. There's a hockey game.

[32:31] JP said there is a hockey game.

[32:32] A man with perspective. I like

[32:34] that. Vous avez été accueilli à

[32:37] l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la

[32:38] période de questions, afin de

[32:40] vous permettre de demeurer à vos

[32:42] places jusqu'à l'appel de votre

[32:45] nom. Nous garderons 90 minutes

[32:47] pour la période des questions.

[32:49] Une personne à la fois au micro.

[32:51] Nous vous remercions d'attendre

[32:53] que les citoyens aient terminé

[32:55] de poser sa question et que vous

[32:57] soyez appelés avant de vous

[32:59] lever pour venir poser votre

[33:02] question. Deux, nous accordons

[33:03] la priorité aux résidentes et

[33:05] aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.

[33:09] Les non-résidents pourront poser

[33:10] leurs questions par la suite, si

[33:12] le temps n'est pas écouler.

[33:15] Question here you are greeted at

[33:16] the entrance to register so you

[33:17] can remain seated until your

[33:18] name is called.

[33:20] Société du patrimoine des

[33:21] Philippines de Montréal. We

[33:22] shall stick to the 90 minute

[33:23] time limit for your question

[33:25] period. One person at a time on

[33:27] the microphone. Thank you for

[33:29] waiting. Thank you for waiting

[33:31] for a citizen to ask their

[33:32] question and to be called before

[33:34] to ask yours. We give priority

[33:36] to the Pointe-Claire residents

[33:38] and three non residents can ask

[33:40] their questions afterwards if

[33:42] time has not run out. To begin,

[33:44] we will start with our

[33:48] honourable Society of the month

[33:50] of June you would like to

[33:54] address? Vous voudrez parler

[33:56] messieurs?

[33:59] Okay.

[34:12] >> Thank you. Can you hear me?

[34:14] Thank you, Mayor Thomas. Thank

[34:17] you everyone for the special

[34:19] evening that you are giving us a

[34:21] notice. My question is, it will

[34:24] be coming soon. I have to read

[34:28] first but I'm going to say.

[34:40] I forgot my reading glasses.

[34:45] There you go.

[34:54] >> If I carried two pairs of

[34:57] glasses --

[34:58] >> I am terribly sorry about

[34:59] that. Good evening, everyone.

[35:02] Bonsoir tout le monde! My name

[35:07] is Ramona, I'm a longtime

[35:09] Pointe-Claire resident and chair

[35:11] of the Filipino family services.

[35:14] We provide social services to

[35:16] the Filipino community in

[35:19] Québec. We recently wrote the

[35:22] municipality to support a

[35:24] request that Council adopt a

[35:26] motion to recognize June as a

[35:30] Filipino heritage month. That

[35:33] request was first made by the

[35:35] Filipino heritage society and

[35:38] united against hate Canada. As

[35:41] part of the national effort to

[35:43] promote the heritage month and

[35:45] to promote the twinning of

[35:48] cities in Canada with partners

[35:50] in the Philippines. It is a

[35:54] campaign that is great residents

[35:56] with us and with Filipinos

[35:59] everywhere in Canada. We think

[36:02] Mayor Thomas and the members of

[36:03] the Council for so rapidly

[36:06] following up. Tonight's motions,

[36:09] to recognize every June as

[36:13] Filipino heritage month in

[36:17] Pointe-Claire and we will be

[36:18] appreciated by the growing

[36:21] population of the Filipinos here

[36:22] in our city. A number of other

[36:26] local communities have adapted

[36:29] similar motions of this. For

[36:33] example, Côte Saint-Luc did last

[36:36] week. Others are planning local

[36:39] ceremonies next June. My

[36:41] question this evening is, can

[36:45] Council invite the Filipino

[36:47] community in Pointe-Claire to a

[36:50] flag raising ceremony or some

[36:52] other ceremonies at City Hall

[36:55] next June to mark the first

[36:58] heritage month in Pointe-Claire?

[37:02] Thank you, everyone, and good

[37:04] evening.

[37:05] >> Thank you, Ramona. I cannot

[37:08] speak for Council but -- you

[37:13] want to vote on it? Okay. All in

[37:18] favour? Yes, that is it, raising

[37:20] a flag or some kind of ceremony

[37:22] recognizing. Can we say some

[37:24] kind of ceremony, we can leave

[37:25] it open recognizing that June is

[37:30] month recognizing? Bringing up

[37:35] to caucus? Okay, we will bring

[37:37] it up to caucus. Thank you.

[37:43] Philippe Paré!

[37:49] Phillipe Pare.

[37:51] >> Good evening. Regarding 6.2 I

[37:56] was present with the question so

[37:58] I know much opposition and being

[38:00] the majority stakeholder so my

[38:02] question is, what is the City of

[38:04] Pointe-Claire and the

[38:05] association of suburban

[38:07] municipalities allowed to do

[38:09] towards the City of Montréal to

[38:10] be able to have your voices

[38:12] properly heard and respected?

[38:14] Are we speaking about a class

[38:15] action lawsuit as the only

[38:18] method to win your case?

[38:22] >> That is a very good question.

[38:25] Twitch I'm not sure the answer.

[38:27] We have all -- we are all

[38:29] passing resolutions and we are

[38:30] all objecting, we are all

[38:32] arguing for the status quo. The

[38:36] decision has not been to take

[38:39] aside for our against but to

[38:40] maintain the status quo and to

[38:42] lead the entire decision up to

[38:44] the scientific experts. Beyond

[38:47] that, I cannot say much more

[38:49] than that. I cannot speak for

[38:50] all the other mayors but there

[38:51] has been the position adopted

[38:54] that we object to the way it was

[38:55] decided in how it was done and

[38:57] we think the status quo

[38:59] should've maintained.

[39:00] >> Thank you.

[39:06] >> John?

[39:08] >> Good evening, everyone. I

[39:09] will try to be brief. I'm doing

[39:11] a follow-up. I was here back in

[39:13] September 3rd. This has to do

[39:15] with the water overflow from 99

[39:19] seater onto my property, 93

[39:21] seater. This goes back and I'm

[39:22] going to be real quick to bring

[39:25] everyone to give a context. This

[39:28] has been going on for two years.

[39:30] The summer, again, we had issues

[39:32] on our property and it was more

[39:34] over and above the huge rainfall

[39:36] we had. I met, on August 12, Mr.

[39:44] Tanguay, he referred me to the

[39:46] urban team which I met in mid

[39:53] September. In that meeting, they

[39:55] shared with me that they are

[39:57] still waiting for revised plans

[39:58] from the owner of 99 Cedar. That

[40:02] they were waiting to receive. In

[40:06] that same meeting, I was asked

[40:07] to provide photos and videos

[40:11] because I have kept track of the

[40:12] last two years of the damage

[40:13] that has been created on my

[40:15] property from the overflow, the

[40:17] water flow from 99. On October

[40:21] 2nd, I provided the USB stick

[40:26] with the additional information

[40:28] that captured last year, 2023

[40:30] and also 2024 that clearly

[40:34] identified the issues. I

[40:37] understand everyone is busy, the

[40:39] week of the 20th of October I

[40:41] sent up a follow-up email.

[40:45] Madame did respond to me. We had

[40:46] a call the following week where

[40:47] she gave me an update in terms

[40:51] of that they had received the

[40:53] city has received some updated

[40:57] plans. What was disappointing in

[40:59] that conversation with I was

[41:00] told for the first time from

[41:01] October 2nd to October 29th,

[41:03] when I spoke to her, that the

[41:05] USB stick, they were never -- I

[41:09] guess you're I teach apartment

[41:10] was not able to open it, which

[41:12] is pretty disappointing. It took

[41:13] three days. It was not full-time

[41:15] but it took me three days to put

[41:16] all the information together.

[41:18] Forget that, for a second. The

[41:22] engineering teen never looked at

[41:23] the photos and videos since they

[41:27] could not open the USB stick. I

[41:29] would love for someone to tell

[41:32] me what needs to happen so you

[41:34] can. The appropriate people, I

[41:35] do not know if it's the

[41:38] engineering team so they can

[41:39] look at the photos and the

[41:43] videos that have been shared. My

[41:47] question is, at the end of the

[41:49] day because I've been speaking

[41:50] to a lot of people, at the end

[41:51] of the day, who is responsible

[41:54] and accountable that this work

[41:56] gets done at 99 Cedar correctly

[41:59] to avoid the water flow that

[42:01] keeps coming on to my property?

[42:06] And in the instance where it

[42:08] does not work, what is the City

[42:11] prepared to do to help out

[42:14] because I have been told

[42:15] everything is going to be okay

[42:16] after the revised plan. I have

[42:18] not seen a revised plan. Once it

[42:21] gets done and something still

[42:23] does not work, who is

[42:25] accountable and responsible

[42:27] department that is going to help

[42:28] me out here.

[42:31] >> That is a very good question.

[42:35] Madame Verdon qui est

[42:36] responsable...

[42:37] >> I think your question has a

[42:38] lot of answers. It would be

[42:40] better because the personal file

[42:42] that we discussed outside of the

[42:43] public meeting so I can call you

[42:45] tomorrow and explain all the

[42:47] process. I will look with the

[42:52] I.T. department if it's possible

[42:53] to open up a file.

[42:55] >> That would be great. Before I

[42:56] handed it in I had that tested

[42:59] with three other people and it

[43:01] works. Now I understand

[43:02] everybody has firewalls and

[43:05] security thing so if I need to

[43:06] do something, I really think

[43:07] it's important that the

[43:08] engineering team gets to see how

[43:11] the water is flowing in the

[43:13] video and also the pictures that

[43:15] I sent.

[43:19] >> Go ahead.

[43:21] >> I'm finished. I am available

[43:24] tomorrow or Thursday if that is

[43:27] better but we can send an email

[43:28] or we can talk.

[43:30] >> No problem. I will send an

[43:31] email tomorrow and have a

[43:33] discussion on Thursday or Friday

[43:34] but we will find a time this

[43:35] week.

[43:36] >> Thank you.

[43:43] >> One question was not

[43:47] responded.

[43:51] [Inaudible]

[43:52] >> When needs to be done for

[43:55] the? Could you go to the

[43:57] microphone, sir.

[44:05] >> I was wondering because you

[44:07] did not answer the question,

[44:08] what needs exactly to be done

[44:10] from your side in order to be

[44:12] able to read the USB file. I am

[44:15] just curious.

[44:17] >> I would think, I'm going out

[44:18] on a limb, our I.T. department

[44:20] has to figure out and if it does

[44:21] not work and get back which I'm

[44:25] sorry has not happened sooner.

[44:27] Thank you for your question.

[44:28] Your follow-up. David Hunter?

[44:37] >> I'm a former resident of

[44:40] Pointe-Claire. I grew up here

[44:42] many years from the late 50s.

[44:44] Anyways, my question that I had

[44:46] concern the process of Bill 39

[44:50] --

[44:51] >> I am sorry, sir, are you a

[44:52] resident of Pointe-Claire?

[44:54] >> Not anymore. Do

[44:55] >> You live in Pointe-Claire?

[44:57] >> No.

[44:58] >> I'm sorry, you will have to

[44:59] wait after we hear the other

[45:02] person on the list.

[45:04] >> You call me. Here I am.

[45:07] >> We did not know.

[45:09] >> Carry on with your business.

[45:11] You answer my question anyway

[45:13] with respect to the amendment.

[45:17] >> Mr. Hunter, we will get

[45:20] through them. We look at to you.

[45:22] I promise.

[45:23] >> I haven't got the time. The

[45:27] American election is far more

[45:29] important.

[45:36] >> Chris Île?

[45:39] >> I'm not going to be exciting

[45:41] as him. Good evening. We are a

[45:50] lot of residents who live in

[45:51] close proximity to the two

[45:53] roundabouts on Chester and we

[45:55] crossed him every day in

[45:57] vehicles, on foot, our kids on

[45:59] their bikes, so on and so forth.

[46:06] There was no construction done

[46:07] to change the, Z Jeffrey moved a

[46:09] stop sign and put yield signs

[46:10] but nothing really changed.

[46:13] There are multiple blind

[46:15] corners, hedges, homes, there's

[46:17] also homes that face into the

[46:19] roundabout where people come in

[46:20] and out of their driveways. You

[46:22] would like either to has taught

[46:23] signs reinstalled or have other

[46:25] safety measures met, typical

[46:27] roundabouts force people to slow

[46:29] down as they enter the

[46:30] roundabout. These roundabouts

[46:31] are just square, they are square

[46:34] roundabouts which is stupid in

[46:36] and of itself but we would

[46:38] either like stop signs to be

[46:40] reinstalled or other safety

[46:41] measures to be taken because

[46:43] especially with the influx of

[46:44] people from Kubik, there are a

[46:47] couple hundred more cars coming

[46:48] through the neighbourhood, plus

[46:49] all the construction on des

[46:54] sources roundabout, et cetera,

[46:56] et cetera. What can we do to

[46:58] install and make it much safer

[46:59] for the residents?

[47:00] >> That is a good question. They

[47:02] are borderline roundabouts, you

[47:04] would call them?

[47:05] >> They were square four way

[47:06] stop for 100 years and then they

[47:09] may yield signs but nobody

[47:10] yields. People just come into

[47:11] the roundabout full speed and at

[47:13] a typical roundabout, it curves

[47:15] when you come into it and join

[47:16] the flow of traffic. Please do

[47:18] not. People especially coming

[47:19] north and south come at a full

[47:21] clip and also their homes and

[47:24] hedges that blind corners coming

[47:26] in. Sometimes you come into the

[47:29] roundabout or the person coming

[47:30] into the roundabout should yield

[47:32] if there is already a car. That

[47:33] does not happen. Cars in the

[47:35] roundabout stop, and then there

[47:36] is some sort of confusion or you

[47:38] are driving through the

[47:39] roundabout. Somebody comes into

[47:41] a blind corner, very dangerous

[47:43] and again there's lots of people

[47:45] just coming through the

[47:46] neighbourhood now from the

[47:47] developments that have gone up.

[47:49] It is a very dangerous

[47:50] situation. Some of the

[47:52] crosswalks or even blind so

[47:53] people crossing on bicycle with

[47:55] dog, so on and so forth so it's

[47:57] definitely something that needs

[47:58] to be looked at. We have many --

[48:01] I know many individuals that

[48:02] live at both roundabouts. It's

[48:04] definitely a -- if you sit there

[48:06] for 20 minutes, you are going to

[48:07] see a bunch of close calls.

[48:09] Either a police presence. I

[48:11] think the stuff signs are the

[48:13] easiest measure because, quite

[48:14] frankly, to break all the cement

[48:16] and reconfigure everything would

[48:18] be a huge expense. I think the

[48:21] question really is what can we

[48:22] do to make them safer? Stop

[48:25] signs being the easiest fix but

[48:26] anything at this point.

[48:28] >> You are lucky because our

[48:30] traffic guru is standing right

[48:32] in front of you or our code

[48:34] traffic guru, mister Tanguay and

[48:38] he and I are taking note of

[48:40] this. Absolutely we will look

[48:42] into it. The roundabout in

[48:47] Pointe-Claire has been an issue

[48:49] as a little one on top of

[48:51] Drayton. The integration of the

[48:53] roundabout has been intriguing

[48:55] and people favourite but whether

[48:57] we are used to them or adjusted

[48:59] or have learned how to use them

[49:00] as a society, as a city, is a

[49:04] good point. How we get beyond

[49:07] that is another issue. The stop

[49:09] signs -- there are laws as to

[49:11] where we can put stop signs and

[49:13] as I've learned in the last

[49:14] traffic Committee meeting we

[49:15] cannot just put out stop signs.

[49:18] There are actually rules. In the

[49:19] old days, we could put them up

[49:20] where we thought -- we cannot

[49:23] put them in front of my cats

[49:24] anymore. There has to be an

[49:26] intersection of roads.

[49:27] >> There is.

[49:28] >> All these rules for stop

[49:29] signs. If those rules do not

[49:31] prohibited, it can be looked

[49:32] into.

[49:33] >> Just from a cost analysis

[49:35] perspective because turning them

[49:37] into round about would be a huge

[49:39] undertaking and expense. If you

[49:41] go on Google maps, you can go

[49:43] back to 2011 and see where the

[49:44] start signs where and you go to

[49:46] 2012 and it's just a yield sign

[49:48] with nothing off.

[49:49] >> The road has not changed?

[49:50] >> No. Should I follow up with

[49:54] you too.

[49:55] >> Sure. Duly noted. He is the

[50:00] man. It's an excellent

[50:02] committee. You have been heard.

[50:04] I promise. Thank you.

[50:06] >> Thank you.

[50:11] >> Can Lyon.

[50:16] >> Good evening. Back in May,

[50:20] council passed -- I do not know

[50:23] if it was a motion or whatever

[50:25] -- for the aquatic centre to

[50:27] have the -- to change rooms

[50:32] fixed up and a sauna fix. When

[50:34] the is going to happen? Nothing,

[50:36] nothing has been done.

[50:39] >> That has been the bane of my

[50:41] existence. We cannot fix it

[50:43] until we do the overall

[50:45] construction project. It is

[50:47] lumped in. We cannot fix it and

[50:49] undo it again to renovate the

[50:51] rooms. It has to all be done in

[50:52] one shot. The timing of that is

[50:54] a good question. I think someone

[50:59] knows the answer.

[51:04] >> Unfortunately, for now, the

[51:06] project of the aquatic centre is

[51:09] not for next year so we will

[51:11] have to wait until we do not

[51:13] know yet, another date, but we

[51:17] adopt the CIP in October, and

[51:21] unfortunately for the budget, it

[51:23] would be tied to push back the

[51:25] project.

[51:26] >> Let me repeat that so I did

[51:27] not fully understand. You looks

[51:29] like you will have your plans

[51:30] ready now October, then sometime

[51:33] next year, the work will start.

[51:36] >> No, the plan -- with the

[51:41] adoption of the next CIP, we

[51:43] call the investment plan for the

[51:45] city for the next year, they

[51:48] will decide to push that project

[51:50] later on maybe in 2026.

[51:52] >> 2026?

[51:54] >> It will not be done in 2025,

[51:57] unfortunately.

[51:58] >> It has been down since before

[52:01] COVID or since COVID. That is

[52:06] terrible. A very simple

[52:09] question, the second one is

[52:10] that, who is responsible for the

[52:12] rams going on to the highways? I

[52:14] am thinking in particular the

[52:17] ramp going west on 20 when you

[52:19] are coming down

[52:26] Saint Jean, another ridge going

[52:27] south on 20 was. There are

[52:29] potholes pretty wicked in spots

[52:31] and I do not know if it's a city

[52:32] or the Ministry of

[52:36] Transportation.

[52:38] >> It depends where the

[52:42] potholes. Some of them are from

[52:44] the City.

[52:45] >> It's on the ramp itself. It's

[52:47] not on the highway, it's on the

[52:49] ramp. As you come off the Saint

[52:54] Jean, you go down, there's one

[52:56] before the curve and then as you

[52:58] get to the second curve that

[53:00] whips out towards the highway,

[53:02] there is some on the edge which

[53:04] are quite substantial.

[53:06] >> I will look at it and let you

[53:08] know.

[53:09] >> Thank you.

[53:10] >> One of them has been

[53:11] repaired. The really bad one. I

[53:13] take that every day. One of them

[53:15] has been repaired, I do not know

[53:16] if that is when you are talking

[53:17] about.

[53:18] >> I noticed it this morning.

[53:20] >> Got you.

[53:21] >> When you noticed is still

[53:22] there.

[53:28] Susan Weaver.

[53:37] >> Here is some information

[53:39] about the accident that you had

[53:42] had with the City lease car last

[53:45] April when you hit a deer up

[53:47] north. La date de la perte...

[53:52] d'un rapport... People six.

[53:56] April 7th. Total damaged, 38,000

[53:59] and someone sent and deductible

[54:01] 5000. The vehicle was located

[54:07] I'm curious as to why the

[54:09] accident was only reported the

[54:10] following day. As you said at

[54:12] the last council meeting, the

[54:14] car was insured but still one

[54:16] must pay deductible. The City

[54:18] has to pay the deductible 5000

[54:22] unless you are planning to take

[54:23] the responsibility for it. There

[54:26] are some added penalties but I

[54:27] must take the time to read the

[54:29] contract again, which you

[54:31] signed. Two things that you said

[54:32] at the October council meeting,

[54:34] which I found interesting.

[54:36] Number one, that you did not

[54:38] want a car when taken into

[54:40] office. Myself, I could not

[54:41] really understand why it was

[54:43] necessary to give the mayor a

[54:45] car during their mandates but

[54:46] you are the mayor, you could've

[54:49] refused and asked for a

[54:50] resolution to be passed to not

[54:52] continue the practice. Number

[54:54] two, no stipulations as to how

[54:56] the City car was to be used. You

[54:59] did not know whether you can

[55:00] pick up groceries with the car.

[55:02] Passing by the metro, in the

[55:05] plaza to pick up groceries on

[55:06] the home is reasonable but going

[55:08] up to St. had polite for

[55:10] groceries is not. If there was

[55:11] no stipulations when you receive

[55:13] the car as you said the last

[55:15] council meeting and then you

[55:17] concluded by saying it is as

[55:19] simple as that, I had a car, I

[55:21] no longer have a car. I had a

[55:23] city credit card, I no longer

[55:25] have one and I follow the rules.

[55:27] What were all the rules that you

[55:29] followed?

[55:30] >> There were not any. Is that

[55:32] your question? The following day

[55:34] I have no idea why that was

[55:36] reported the following day. It

[55:39] was in the morning. I should've

[55:41] been the following day. It

[55:44] happened 8:00 a.m. in the

[55:47] morning. 44 minutes from

[55:56] Pointe-Claire was where the

[55:57] accident happened. I did not --

[56:01] I was told I insisted on having

[56:04] a car. I had a good car. This is

[56:09] a park that comes with being the

[56:10] mayor of Pointe-Claire and you

[56:11] have to have a car. I took the

[56:14] car. I asked if I could return

[56:17] it and not have a car. If

[56:20] there's any removed ration that

[56:22] I can get but I was told I would

[56:24] have to have the car. There were

[56:26] no rules, no specifications, no

[56:28] rules whatsoever as to how to

[56:30] use the car. And never signed

[56:31] any contract. I was just given a

[56:33] car in that is the way it

[56:37] occurred.

[56:38] >> You did not sign a contract?

[56:39] >> No, I did not. No.

[56:43] >> Your name was on it.

[56:45] >> No.

[56:46] >> My second question was, who

[56:48] did you notify when you hit the

[56:50] deer?

[56:51] >> I did not notify anybody.

[56:54] They got on it quickly. The

[56:57] transport, the people that drive

[56:58] the roads called the police.

[57:01] Somebody from Québec, the Québec

[57:02] government, provincial

[57:03] government was on the road, saw

[57:05] me and came over or might have

[57:08] seen the accident and then

[57:09] called the police and the police

[57:12] came and they were great. They

[57:13] were with me for probably 5 to

[57:16] 10 minutes and a tow truck was

[57:18] there five minutes later and

[57:20] then I called my son to pick me

[57:23] up and they were checking to

[57:24] make sure I was not in any too

[57:25] much shop because I wasn't a bit

[57:27] of shop.

[57:28] >> I imagine so.

[57:29] >> I did survive. I was kind of

[57:32] pleased about that. Adding that,

[57:34] I cannot tell you much more.

[57:55] >> Hi. The residual presented by

[58:02] Eric Stork this evening, the

[58:03] City Council needs to know of

[58:04] the provincial legislation. He

[58:06] would have a big impact on our

[58:08] City. It is my understanding

[58:09] that steps have already been

[58:10] taken. I think our lawyer is

[58:13] going to have gone to some

[58:16] information meetings and so

[58:17] forth to inform City Council

[58:19] about the new legislation it

[58:20] would be quite shocking to find

[58:22] out that this was not already in

[58:24] progress. Otherwise, as well,

[58:28] this legislation essentially

[58:30] says that when green space lots

[58:32] are re-zoned as green space, the

[58:35] developer cannot claim for lost

[58:36] future profits. Excuse me, I got

[58:39] a bit of a cold. Only for what

[58:41] they paid for the land. Cadillac

[58:43] Fairview recently sold off a

[58:45] step of the fourth of the REM to

[58:47] allow the expansion of Fairview

[58:49] Avenue, with the City should be

[58:50] doing is immediately zoning all

[58:52] of the force including this

[58:53] strip as green space. Let the

[58:56] Ram expropriate part of the

[58:57] parking lot for the road

[58:58] expansion instead of the forests

[59:02] parts of the strip. As to paying

[59:04] for market value, study for the

[59:08] MU2 first, rezone it. Right now

[59:11] it's value is greatly inflated

[59:12] bites no rose owning. Right now,

[59:17] both MU1 and MU2, have no zones.

[59:20] No height restrictions, not a

[59:21] lot coverage, no restrictions of

[59:23] types of commercials are special

[59:25] product, not even minimum

[59:26] setbacks. This is what Cadillac

[59:28] Fairview is fighting for the

[59:30] hold on to. Pointe-Claire now

[59:32] has an opportunity to maintain

[59:34] the freeze, as citizens what

[59:35] they want on both MU1 and MU2

[59:38] and rezoned them according to

[59:40] what we want, not the zones but

[59:42] virtually no rules as exist

[59:45] today.

[59:53] After resolution 2023 040, and

[59:58] our city manager tried to reach

[59:59] out with negotiations with

[1:00:00] Cadillac Fairview refused

[1:00:03] outright. Luckily for us, now we

[1:00:04] can make some zoning rules with

[1:00:05] teeth and negotiate holding on

[1:00:07] to at least a few winning cards

[1:00:09] instead of the empty hands we

[1:00:10] have now. Like to know that the

[1:00:14] City would start the process of

[1:00:17] the zoning. Including the space

[1:00:21] by the REM. And re-table you're

[1:00:26] resolution to allow citizen

[1:00:27] consultation sessions about both

[1:00:29] Fairview forest and the maximum

[1:00:31] height of buildings on MU1. This

[1:00:33] is because the resolution passed

[1:00:36] by Eric Stork puts citizen

[1:00:41] consultations not to formulate

[1:00:42] our planning program but some

[1:00:44] sort of nebulous idea to next

[1:00:48] February. We need them soon and

[1:00:50] before the Planning Program is

[1:00:52] actually formalized and paid. I

[1:00:59] think we need citizen

[1:01:01] consultations but most

[1:01:02] importantly why don't we just

[1:01:04] zone the forest green. We can do

[1:01:07] it. It's within power of the

[1:01:09] City to do it and then we would

[1:01:10] have somebody to negotiate from

[1:01:14] as well. We have got to get the

[1:01:18] MU1 with some zoning

[1:01:19] regulations. It is incredible to

[1:01:21] me that this huge piece in our

[1:01:24] city has just virtually no

[1:01:26] zoning regulations. I mean, it's

[1:01:29] a free-for-all. How did this

[1:01:31] happen? It's amazing. I would

[1:01:34] like to know, would you try to

[1:01:36] start the process soon to zone

[1:01:39] the land green or we can go

[1:01:41] against a resolution tonight as

[1:01:42] well?

[1:01:43] >> We can start that tonight

[1:01:46] actually because the resolution

[1:01:47] has changed dramatically. You

[1:01:53] are probably referring to you

[1:01:54] may have seen a different

[1:01:56] version of it.

[1:01:57] >> Yes, but it does not include

[1:01:59] immediately rezoning the line

[1:02:01] green. All this process of

[1:02:03] finding information about

[1:02:04] funding and about prices and

[1:02:05] about laws but we already know

[1:02:07] we can do this. It's quite clear

[1:02:09] that we can do this. Why not to

[1:02:11] it first? What is going to

[1:02:13] happen is Fairview is going to

[1:02:15] -- the strip sold to the REM,

[1:02:19] the trees will be gone. That

[1:02:20] will be lost. They are trying to

[1:02:24] sell off that they do not want

[1:02:27] bit by bit.

[1:02:31] >> The issue for us, we came to

[1:02:32] this tonight, is we are in the

[1:02:35] process and our staff was on

[1:02:37] this. They have already been

[1:02:39] well ahead of the game on Bill

[1:02:41] 39. We are going to get -- I

[1:02:43] agree with you -- we absolutely

[1:02:44] have to understand the

[1:02:45] implications and the powers that

[1:02:48] are accorded to us legally with

[1:02:50] that law. We have to do it

[1:02:52] properly so there are no

[1:02:54] repercussions. We are looking to

[1:02:56] that effect as we speak. The

[1:02:58] resolution that you read it's

[1:03:00] hopefully taken into account. It

[1:03:03] emphasizes the resolution

[1:03:04] emphasized still 39 and what it

[1:03:06] allows us to do. From what I

[1:03:09] sense, today and in the ridge

[1:03:12] version of that resolution,

[1:03:13] there is a possibility of doing

[1:03:14] exactly that. Whether it happens

[1:03:16] or not, that is all other thing.

[1:03:17] There is a possibility.

[1:03:19] >> If we let the forest be with

[1:03:23] it's not-so-green space for at

[1:03:24] least for five months, what is

[1:03:26] going to be left of it?

[1:03:28] >> Hopefully it will be okay in

[1:03:31] for five months. Who knows.

[1:03:34] >> Can anyone stop the REM?

[1:03:38] >> The REM is a whole different

[1:03:40] creature.

[1:03:41] >> It can expropriate the

[1:03:42] parking lot. Why take the side

[1:03:43] of Fairview, which is a

[1:03:44] beautiful force. Why not take

[1:03:45] the side that is the parking

[1:03:47] lot?

[1:03:48] >> You have to ask them on that,

[1:03:49] I agree with you and yours and I

[1:03:50] do not know why that did not

[1:03:52] happen on the outset. I am

[1:03:54] perplexed as a mayor. I do not

[1:03:55] know why the buses were moved,

[1:03:59] why they should have stayed in

[1:04:02] the Fairview space. I do not

[1:04:03] know why that was moved. This

[1:04:05] was all done prior.

[1:04:07] >> We do not know if it was done

[1:04:08] in secret behind closed doors.

[1:04:10] >> Excuse me?

[1:04:15] >> Are we having an exchange?

[1:04:17] >> I am answering your question.

[1:04:20] We will stick to maybe two

[1:04:21] questions here. I will answer --

[1:04:25] you are right I have answered

[1:04:27] the first one. The second one,

[1:04:31] zoning it. We are hopefully

[1:04:32] working towards that. How to do

[1:04:35] so legally and safely, that is a

[1:04:36] question number one. What is

[1:04:38] question number two? I

[1:04:39] remembered it a second ago.

[1:04:41] >> If you will reinstate your

[1:04:42] resolution to give us

[1:04:44] consultations. Not some nebulous

[1:04:46] some sort of consultation next

[1:04:48] February.

[1:04:49] >> I am concerned about the

[1:04:51] consultations but it is

[1:04:52] specified in the resolution that

[1:04:54] there will be but as I said

[1:04:56] earlier, I am sincerely

[1:04:59] concerned about how solid that

[1:05:02] will be moving forward. I agree

[1:05:04] with you, I share your concerns

[1:05:05] with that. I thought my

[1:05:10] resolution was simply for

[1:05:12] consultation. That is all it was

[1:05:14] for. That is all I wanted to be.

[1:05:16] I do not think we should be

[1:05:18] altering or changing the City or

[1:05:19] doing any major urban planning

[1:05:22] decisions in the city until we

[1:05:24] have public consultation. I have

[1:05:26] not seen enough of it and we

[1:05:27] have not got enough information

[1:05:28] from it to move forward. As a

[1:05:31] Democrat, I concur then I feel

[1:05:34] public consultation should be a

[1:05:36] priority, it should happen

[1:05:37] sooner as opposed to later.

[1:05:39] Beyond that, I cannot tell you

[1:05:40] much more than that. We are

[1:05:42] moving towards it. It's a stated

[1:05:44] goal in the resolution. There is

[1:05:45] no timeline on it but who knows.

[1:05:49] That is the best I can answer.

[1:05:52] >> Thank you.

[1:05:54] >> Thank you.

[1:05:57] >> Mayor, I like to point

[1:05:59] something out. Maybe there might

[1:06:00] be some misunderstanding about

[1:06:02] the City has no power over the

[1:06:04] REM. Once the provincial

[1:06:05] government passed legislation to

[1:06:07] enable the REM track to be built

[1:06:09] wherever the -- excuse me, I am

[1:06:12] talking. I am talking. Wherever

[1:06:14] the builders shows, they did not

[1:06:18] the law allow them to do this

[1:06:20] without any public

[1:06:21] consultations, without any

[1:06:22] permission from the City. They

[1:06:24] purchased the land at the

[1:06:26] Fairview forest for their use

[1:06:28] and the city has no say over

[1:06:31] that.

[1:06:32] >> I already understood all of

[1:06:35] that.

[1:06:39] >> Kathy?

[1:06:47] >> Good evening. I will start by

[1:06:52] mentioning a few details about

[1:06:54] our little street. It is called

[1:06:57] chestnut avenue. It's called an

[1:07:00] avenue but what we are talking

[1:07:01] about here is essentially one

[1:07:05] block. On that block, there are

[1:07:07] approximately 18 houses. In

[1:07:15] 2008, the water and road

[1:07:18] renovation was done on Heather

[1:07:21] Avenue. At that time, in 2008,

[1:07:23] our street was supposed to have

[1:07:25] been completed in the next

[1:07:28] five-year plan. That would have

[1:07:30] brought us to 2013 when our

[1:07:33] start -- streak would have been

[1:07:34] finished. That did not occur and

[1:07:37] then more recently we were

[1:07:39] supposed to be part of a

[1:07:40] three-year plan whereby Oak

[1:07:43] Ridge would be done and then

[1:07:45] Sunday all would be done and

[1:07:47] then chestnut would be done. At

[1:07:49] the time, the workers on those

[1:07:52] street said that the were street

[1:07:53] was actually our little block.

[1:07:57] We were waiting patiently.

[1:08:00] Despite a street that has been

[1:08:02] full of problems. For instance,

[1:08:04] we are a street with four open

[1:08:06] ditches. We have four open

[1:08:08] ditches in one block. We have

[1:08:11] about a dozen children out on

[1:08:13] the street because things have

[1:08:15] changed, older people have sold,

[1:08:16] younger people are moving in,

[1:08:18] there are some babies, they are

[1:08:21] kitty cats. Now sunny Dale does

[1:08:25] not have stopped signed, we have

[1:08:27] stop signs at both ends of our

[1:08:29] blocks. Now what is happening in

[1:08:32] multiple residents are

[1:08:34] mentioning, everybody has been

[1:08:36] seeing big vehicles and buses

[1:08:38] using our street. I guess

[1:08:40] because the other one looks more

[1:08:42] residential because it does not

[1:08:43] have stopped signs so they stop

[1:08:46] and then they step on the gas

[1:08:48] and anyway. We are being used by

[1:08:51] multiple vehicles and school

[1:08:54] buses are one that everyone

[1:08:55] keeps mentioning. We have a road

[1:08:58] that looks like a patchwork

[1:09:01] quilt from all of the digging

[1:09:04] every winter and all the

[1:09:07] breakages of the underground

[1:09:09] pipe system. We also have a lot

[1:09:12] of puddles of water every time

[1:09:15] it rains. This one normally

[1:09:17] would be too much of a problem,

[1:09:19] the kids would love it, but we

[1:09:20] do have in that one block, some

[1:09:24] very compromised individuals

[1:09:27] vis-à-vis visual, visual acuity

[1:09:30] and they are not driving cars.

[1:09:32] They are only walking. When they

[1:09:35] walk and they cannot see and the

[1:09:37] place is full of puddles, it is

[1:09:39] pretty bad. Now there are cracks

[1:09:43] everywhere. You cannot move

[1:09:44] without being on a crack.

[1:09:49] There's one big one growing

[1:09:52] grass. We have lived with this a

[1:09:53] long time and recently we were

[1:09:55] under the impression that in

[1:09:57] spring of 2025, our road would

[1:09:59] be done. We have had conflicting

[1:10:05] information, several residents

[1:10:06] have contacted the engineering

[1:10:08] department and have been told

[1:10:10] that they are not the ones that

[1:10:12] changed the plans. Then, as

[1:10:16] terror knows, I contacted her

[1:10:18] and I told her what we had been

[1:10:21] told that it was the councillors

[1:10:24] here that changed the plan. We

[1:10:27] do not care about who changed

[1:10:29] the plan, what I am here for is

[1:10:32] we have made a little petition,

[1:10:34] we are not very many on the

[1:10:36] street. It reads, we the

[1:10:38] taxpayers and residents of

[1:10:39] Chestnut Avenue, hereby petition

[1:10:40] the councillors to commence and

[1:10:42] complete the necessary watering

[1:10:43] road renovations for our

[1:10:45] streets, for spring of 2025,

[1:10:47] without further delay. Chestnut

[1:10:49] avenue is the only street in our

[1:10:51] neighbourhood that has recently

[1:10:52] had neither water nor row

[1:10:55] renovation, never mind the

[1:10:56] connecting street and every

[1:10:58] street in our neighbourhood has

[1:11:00] been completed. We are extremely

[1:11:06] disappointed. I have lived in

[1:11:07] Pointe-Claire since 1972. This

[1:11:11] is my third address because we

[1:11:14] bought a semi detached, and when

[1:11:15] the family grew, we bought a big

[1:11:18] two storey. With my off rioters

[1:11:19] and joint replacements, et

[1:11:21] cetera, et cetera, we went into

[1:11:22] this nice bungalow on chestnut.

[1:11:25] It is a great street to live on

[1:11:27] except we do have a lot of

[1:11:30] issues in the summer when

[1:11:32] baseball is on, our little block

[1:11:34] is parked up on both sides with

[1:11:36] many peoples wheels resting on

[1:11:38] our grass. We have a variety of

[1:11:41] issues with the street. We do

[1:11:43] not have curves and we have a

[1:11:46] lot of cracks so my question is,

[1:11:49] will the Councillors please,

[1:11:52] please on behalf of my residents

[1:11:54] on my street and I had four of

[1:11:56] them here, one had to leave, I

[1:11:59] still have three residents here.

[1:12:02] Not just myself but I'm not the

[1:12:04] only one getting older. I have

[1:12:06] had three joint replacements. I

[1:12:08] fear walking on my own street. I

[1:12:12] fear it because it is too easy

[1:12:14] to trip. I will go for a small

[1:12:18] walk and make sure I have my

[1:12:20] cane with the four-foot and

[1:12:22] things like that but you never

[1:12:24] know when somebody is going to

[1:12:26] really get injured on our

[1:12:28] street. As I say, there are more

[1:12:31] children. Some of the people

[1:12:32] driving using our street is a

[1:12:34] short cut to get over to the

[1:12:37] hospital. They are stepping on

[1:12:38] the gas. One of our residence is

[1:12:41] not here but I was outside and

[1:12:45] saw what happened one day and

[1:12:48] she had a confrontation with the

[1:12:50] driver. Myself, I was told to F

[1:12:57] you nowhere. But I stop for the

[1:12:59] stop sign, I informed, we have

[1:13:01] children here, we have pets

[1:13:02] here. People are on the road and

[1:13:04] the road looks narrow.

[1:13:05] >> Can I ask you to sort of in a

[1:13:10] question for ask what you ask of

[1:13:12] us because we are not the

[1:13:14] police. What is you -- what you

[1:13:16] are talking about is something

[1:13:17] we cannot regulate. We cannot

[1:13:19] control speeding. That is all

[1:13:23] police but the driver's

[1:13:24] behaviour, that kind of thing,

[1:13:25] we cannot do. Is there anything

[1:13:27] specific that you think the city

[1:13:28] can do for Chestnut?

[1:13:30] >> I think the renovation needs

[1:13:32] to be done because a couple of

[1:13:34] us have had to start filtering

[1:13:36] our water because a metallic

[1:13:39] takes. We do not know if the

[1:13:42] water pipes bringing water into

[1:13:44] our homes for us to use every

[1:13:46] day whether we are drinking

[1:13:48] water with any residue from

[1:13:50] these old pipes that are from

[1:13:52] the 19 50s. We are just asking.

[1:13:57] >> I would hope engineering

[1:13:58] would have that under control. I

[1:14:01] suspect you are not but are you

[1:14:02] on the list? Are you on the

[1:14:06] list? I cannot go into the

[1:14:09] audience. It's only the person

[1:14:10] at the microphone. No worries.

[1:14:15] All I can tell you is that I

[1:14:17] doubt very much that Council

[1:14:20] overruled or banished your

[1:14:23] street repaving. My time with

[1:14:26] this council, we have not spoken

[1:14:28] about prioritizing streets. It's

[1:14:30] generally done by public works

[1:14:32] and it's done by a professional

[1:14:36] process in according to need and

[1:14:37] there's a lot of streets Denis

[1:14:39] doing. I hear you.

[1:14:41] >> We've had a need for years.

[1:14:44] >> There are others who have

[1:14:45] had. And I heard them as well. I

[1:14:46] can only say that I trust in my

[1:14:49] professionals and they make the

[1:14:51] decisions in the -- it's not a

[1:14:56] political -- hang on, it's not a

[1:14:57] political thing. You do not

[1:14:59] lobby and say that will get done

[1:15:02] and it's not what we do. Excuse

[1:15:05] me, I'm surprised at that and I

[1:15:09] would like the engineering to

[1:15:11] say which ones and how that

[1:15:13] happened because I never saw

[1:15:16] that.

[1:15:20] >> Can I comment? It's not that

[1:15:22] the councillors decide which

[1:15:24] streets are being done or not

[1:15:26] done. It's that when our team

[1:15:29] comes to us with all of the

[1:15:31] directors and the executive team

[1:15:32] comes to us to work on the

[1:15:33] budget and the capital

[1:15:35] investment plan, they present us

[1:15:37] with the information with the

[1:15:39] budgets that are required and

[1:15:41] the projects that are more

[1:15:44] urgent. And with the financial

[1:15:47] status of the city. And

[1:15:49] unfortunately this year, as I

[1:15:52] explained, the Council have to

[1:15:53] make a decision based on the

[1:15:55] advice of our professionals that

[1:15:57] work at the City to push not

[1:16:00] just Chestnut but all street

[1:16:03] projects. If you do a capital

[1:16:05] investment plan, you will see

[1:16:07] that there is not any streets

[1:16:09] being done unless they are being

[1:16:11] done conjointly with another

[1:16:12] city in which we are obliged to

[1:16:15] participate. We had financial

[1:16:17] constraints that forced us to

[1:16:20] push to cut the budget and push

[1:16:22] many projects down the pipe. It

[1:16:24] doesn't mean that it's not going

[1:16:25] to happen. It just means that

[1:16:27] unfortunately, we weren't in the

[1:16:28] financial position to make it

[1:16:30] happen this year. Or this

[1:16:33] upcoming year. When they say

[1:16:35] that Council made that decision,

[1:16:38] yes, we have the final say and

[1:16:39] we do vote on the capital

[1:16:40] investment plan, but it is based

[1:16:42] on the advice that's given to us

[1:16:45] from our team and our

[1:16:46] professionals who do their job

[1:16:48] very well and who make a lot of

[1:16:52] sacrifices in their own

[1:16:53] departments and who weigh in and

[1:16:55] measure every suggestion they

[1:16:57] give us and the suggestion was

[1:16:59] that we had to make $20 million

[1:17:01] in cuts, I believe. $20 million

[1:17:05] in cuts in the budget. More or

[1:17:08] less of budgets we had

[1:17:11] anticipated. So we've had to

[1:17:12] push those projects,

[1:17:14] unfortunately, in order to have

[1:17:15] a healthy bottom line. Yes,

[1:17:20] engineering may say we made that

[1:17:21] decision because we put our

[1:17:22] final stamp on it, but we have

[1:17:24] no say in which streets are

[1:17:26] being done or not done. They are

[1:17:28] presented to us as the most

[1:17:30] important streets. They are

[1:17:31] ranked importance not just on

[1:17:33] the asphalt but also on the

[1:17:34] conditions of the pipes, the

[1:17:36] number of water main breaks, the

[1:17:38] discolouration of water,, et

[1:17:40] cetera. There is the sewage

[1:17:42] system that gets involved as

[1:17:43] well. A project like this is

[1:17:44] maybe five or $6 million. And

[1:17:48] so, we had to make decisions

[1:17:49] this year where a lot of

[1:17:51] projects got unfortunately

[1:17:53] pushed a little bit down the

[1:17:55] pipe, so to speak, just because

[1:17:57] of the financial constraints.

[1:18:00] >> The street has been getting

[1:18:03] pushed since 2008. So, I mean,

[1:18:08] there is a lot of priorities and

[1:18:10] you are doing a lot of good

[1:18:11] work. We can see from all the

[1:18:13] projects that are going on in

[1:18:15] Pointe-Claire, and they are all

[1:18:16] very worthy, it's just that we

[1:18:20] are only one block along. And

[1:18:22] some people have told me their

[1:18:23] water has been Braun for weeks.

[1:18:26] It's not right now, but they've

[1:18:29] experienced having dirty water

[1:18:30] for weeks.

[1:18:31] >> That's duly noted. Let the

[1:18:33] authorities know and send an

[1:18:35] email. Let the authorities know

[1:18:37] and the professionals will go in

[1:18:39] and will respond as to whether

[1:18:40] there is a problem with the

[1:18:43] water. It's not us. This is a

[1:18:46] professional science. Water is

[1:18:48] not Council.

[1:18:49] >> So, we would send our

[1:18:53] information

[1:18:54] (applause)

[1:18:55] >> To public works.

[1:18:58] >> Well, public works --.

[1:19:01] >> I've got to let some others

[1:19:03] speak. Thank you.

[1:19:04] >> Can I just add, the project

[1:19:05] is not cancelled. We are not

[1:19:09] cancelling doing our roadwork.

[1:19:11] We would just -- we were not

[1:19:13] able to complete certain

[1:19:15] projects in the timeline we

[1:19:16] would like. Please be reassured

[1:19:18] that the street has not fallen

[1:19:19] off our radar. It is certainly

[1:19:21] still on our radar and

[1:19:23] engineering is keeping track of

[1:19:25] the needs of the different roads

[1:19:26] in order to present us next year

[1:19:28] with a new capital investment

[1:19:31] plan.

[1:19:32] >> Keith Kelly?

[1:19:37] >> One of our --.

[1:19:45] >> Evening, Council. My name is

[1:19:47] Keith Kelly. You don't know, you

[1:19:50] know of me. I've been a lifetime

[1:19:54] resident of Pointe-Claire and

[1:19:55] I've paid my taxes for 60 years.

[1:19:58] You will now guess my age. I

[1:20:02] came here tonight basically to

[1:20:04] thank the Council for the work

[1:20:07] they have done over a number of

[1:20:09] years. The last two or three

[1:20:11] years or more, I've probably

[1:20:13] given consideration in the past,

[1:20:15] but if you've done a great job

[1:20:16] with us councillors or me and

[1:20:18] the rest of the citizens. And I

[1:20:21] think you have done so

[1:20:23] particularly recently under very

[1:20:26] unique and unusual

[1:20:28] circumstances. Now, when I say

[1:20:34] that,

[1:20:39] .

[1:20:51] And what's happening at our

[1:20:53] recent council meetings. The

[1:20:56] last two and a half years have

[1:20:59] been a disaster. As far as I'm

[1:21:01] concerned. It is unfortunate but

[1:21:03] it is the way it has been. And I

[1:21:07] find that the icing on the cake

[1:21:09] for me was what happened on

[1:21:14] October 15th, when the Mayor

[1:21:17] declared that he was going to

[1:21:19] have a special meeting on an

[1:21:21] issue close to him. Something he

[1:21:23] was so very supportive of, which

[1:21:26] partly is the Fairview forest,

[1:21:30] which I would personally like to

[1:21:32] see, and I know there is a lady

[1:21:33] here, Genevieve, who would also,

[1:21:36] who has done a of a good job

[1:21:38] personally and professionally to

[1:21:41] work on the cause and problems.

[1:21:44] Now, when I talk about

[1:21:47] disappointment, the Council, the

[1:21:49] vote the other night was the

[1:21:52] 15th one, the resolution, the

[1:21:54] vote showed very, very clearly 7

[1:21:56] to 1 of councils -- councillors

[1:22:01] voted against the mayor's

[1:22:02] proposed proposals. That tells

[1:22:03] me something.

[1:22:06] >> And Councillor Tremblay

[1:22:09] support.

[1:22:10] >> Yes. He did support. And I

[1:22:12] would say I will also say

[1:22:14] something else, I think he is

[1:22:16] very professional in the way he

[1:22:18] talks and behaves here at

[1:22:20] Council. He has his views,

[1:22:21] that's fine. And now, the other

[1:22:26] things I would like to talk

[1:22:28] about --

[1:22:29] >> Mr. Kelly, are you talking or

[1:22:30] are you asking a question?

[1:22:31] >> I will ask you two questions.

[1:22:34] >> Okay, okay. That's one

[1:22:37] preamble. Do you have a second

[1:22:38] preamble? Usually, there's a

[1:22:40] preamble and a question, Mr.

[1:22:42] Kelly. There is a preamble and a

[1:22:43] question and the preamble --

[1:22:45] >> My preamble is not finished.

[1:22:47] I will ask my question after. As

[1:22:49] far as I'm concerned, some of

[1:22:50] the things that bothers me most

[1:22:53] is seeing what happens here at

[1:22:55] Council. Is that I have never,

[1:22:57] in all the years I have come to

[1:23:00] Council, see the mayor standing

[1:23:01] up and voting against something

[1:23:03] totally against the rest of the

[1:23:06] group. That is something I have

[1:23:07] never seen. It's my

[1:23:09] understanding, rightly or

[1:23:10] wrongly, that the Mayor votes

[1:23:12] when there is a tie. Otherwise,

[1:23:13] he doesn't vote. I may be wrong.

[1:23:16] That's my understanding over the

[1:23:17] years and it's the first time

[1:23:19] I've ever seen the mayor of

[1:23:22] Pointe-Claire either vote for or

[1:23:24] against something totally

[1:23:26] against the councillors. The

[1:23:32] other thing that bothers me the

[1:23:34] most is you've never had a

[1:23:37] situation at these Council

[1:23:39] meetings where the mayor makes a

[1:23:41] statement or something and one

[1:23:43] of the councillors, two, three

[1:23:46] or four of you have done it over

[1:23:48] the past little while and have

[1:23:50] had to call a point of order and

[1:23:53] correct you on something. And

[1:23:55] that is totally unusual. Very

[1:23:58] unusual. Something like that

[1:23:59] should be taking place back

[1:24:01] there, in the back room. Which

[1:24:03] is where it's been done for the

[1:24:05] last 30 or 40 years, that I know

[1:24:08] about. Not here on the floor.

[1:24:10] You shouldn't have to do that.

[1:24:13] The other thing is that --

[1:24:16] excuse me.

[1:24:17] >> Mr. Kelly, you will just list

[1:24:19] the grievances or ask a

[1:24:21] question? How long does the list

[1:24:23] go?

[1:24:24] >> No, I have to tell you what

[1:24:25] I'm thinking.

[1:24:26] >> No, no, Mr. Kelly --

[1:24:34] >> I have for five answers

[1:24:36] already.

[1:24:37] >> I have to say that the

[1:24:38] Council does a great job. Use it

[1:24:42] here as the mayor and saying

[1:24:43] Pointe-Claire is working great.

[1:24:44] Everything is great.

[1:24:45] Pointe-Claire is the best city

[1:24:46] in the West Island and it has

[1:24:48] been and I hope to keep it that

[1:24:50] way. But you have to have a

[1:24:52] Council that does the work and

[1:24:53] can work together and have a

[1:24:56] mayor who supposedly is managing

[1:24:58] and supporting. But it's not

[1:25:00] evident to me that you are doing

[1:25:02] that. Maybe that's the problem.

[1:25:08] I would believe that if there is

[1:25:11] a problem, it's an assumption,

[1:25:12] but if there is a problem that

[1:25:16] Councillor has or a councillor

[1:25:17] group are having with you as a

[1:25:19] mayor, I have to assume, rightly

[1:25:21] or wrongly, that the

[1:25:23] administration must be having

[1:25:24] similar problems. That's

[1:25:26] unfortunate. I think the things

[1:25:32] -- in Pointe-Claire,

[1:25:34] Pointe-Claire has to do a lot of

[1:25:35] things that I don't like. I wish

[1:25:37] I could go back to the days when

[1:25:38] I was born here. And that's just

[1:25:40] not realistic. Unfortunately,

[1:25:43] things happen and we are

[1:25:45] building big buildings. I don't

[1:25:46] think the condos. You don't eat

[1:25:48] them either. But that's the way

[1:25:50] it is. The provincial, the

[1:25:53] federal, the local, Montréal,

[1:25:55] they are saying that's what

[1:25:56] we've got to do and we are doing

[1:25:57] it. Finally, as far as I am

[1:26:01] concerned, I think myself, we

[1:26:03] would be better as a mayor to

[1:26:06] spend a little more time around

[1:26:08] the office here rather than out

[1:26:12] at all the gatherings to get

[1:26:17] yourself, take pictures and post

[1:26:18] them on Facebook. I, mean I get

[1:26:21] a little tired of looking at

[1:26:23] your Facebook. There is Tim

[1:26:25] Thomas with his camera taking a

[1:26:27] picture of himself.

[1:26:29] >> Mr. Kelly --

[1:26:32] >> Excuse, me folks. I concur. I

[1:26:34] would like to get a question.

[1:26:36] Mr. Kelly, there are other

[1:26:37] people on the list that would

[1:26:38] like to ask questions. Can I

[1:26:42] answer all out? I have like five

[1:26:43] or six. I'm running out of

[1:26:45] responses. I'm running out of

[1:26:47] paper. Because so many incorrect

[1:26:49] accusations have been thrown out

[1:26:50] that I have to correct. I'm

[1:26:51] running out of paper to write

[1:26:53] on. I want to keep going. Do you

[1:26:54] have a question? Before just the

[1:26:58] insinuations?

[1:26:59] >> I would go a little further.

[1:27:00] >> I believe you could. Your

[1:27:04] question has the pertain to what

[1:27:05] you just said.

[1:27:06] >> My question is, are you, as

[1:27:08] the Mayor, prepared to get on

[1:27:10] board with council and the

[1:27:13] administration in the best

[1:27:16] interest of the citizens? And

[1:27:20] you can run the city, and if you

[1:27:22] cannot run the city alone, if

[1:27:24] you can't get on board -- on

[1:27:27] board, I suggest that you resign

[1:27:29] and leave one of the councillors

[1:27:34] to finish the term allotted that

[1:27:36] you have.

[1:27:37] >> Unfortunately, Mr. Kelly, an

[1:27:39] awful lot of people disagree

[1:27:40] with you on. That I was elected

[1:27:41] Mayor for a reason. One would

[1:27:44] hope that the administration,'s

[1:27:46] councillors get along with

[1:27:47] mayors as well and we work in

[1:27:50] tandem. You are lumping the

[1:27:52] administration into your

[1:27:54] question was an unfair one. They

[1:27:56] are non political and they don't

[1:27:57] like to be lumped in like that,

[1:27:59] like you've just done, implying

[1:28:00] that they are adopting a

[1:28:03] political stance where they

[1:28:04] concur one way or the other. I

[1:28:06] assure, you from my knowledge,

[1:28:07] the administration and I get

[1:28:09] along just fine. And there is no

[1:28:11] rancor and no harsh feelings

[1:28:13] between us. The meeting that you

[1:28:18] said I called on the issue that

[1:28:19] was close to me, it's not close

[1:28:22] to me. It's close to everybody

[1:28:24] in the city. It was on building

[1:28:26] height and the City green

[1:28:29] spaces, which was not an issue

[1:28:30] that's close to me. It's an

[1:28:31] issue that is a dominant issue

[1:28:32] in Pointe-Claire society, sir.

[1:28:35] It was not self serving in any

[1:28:37] way, shape or form. The calling

[1:28:44] a meeting that was on an issue,

[1:28:47] to me, has been done. Special

[1:28:48] council meetings have been

[1:28:50] called by other members of

[1:28:52] Council on three separate

[1:28:54] occasions, besides. Me so it is

[1:28:55] done already. Against my wishes.

[1:28:58] And this was prior to my special

[1:29:00] meeting. It was done on three

[1:29:01] separate occasions against my

[1:29:03] wishes and against me. They were

[1:29:04] called against me. But I guess

[1:29:08] the most important answer I can

[1:29:10] give you, I remember when I was

[1:29:15] running for mayor in the last

[1:29:18] mandate, prior to running for

[1:29:19] mayor when I was a citizen, I

[1:29:20] would come to Council meetings

[1:29:22] that were far more disruptive

[1:29:25] than the ones during my mandate.

[1:29:27] And I've seen people go, Mr.

[1:29:31] Kelly, you have some kind of

[1:29:32] revisionist history going on.

[1:29:33] There I remember people being

[1:29:34] thrown out. I remember people

[1:29:36] being thrown out on a constant

[1:29:38] basis. People standing up and

[1:29:39] yelling. I remember the

[1:29:42] particular pioneer concert --

[1:29:44] consultation was incredibly

[1:29:45] rockets and people were slamming

[1:29:47] doors. So, the juxtaposition is

[1:29:49] not a fair, one sir. And your

[1:29:52] memory is really coloured on

[1:29:54] that one. As to whether I am

[1:29:58] resigning, no. Because I serve

[1:30:00] the people and the people chose

[1:30:02] me and they chose the philosophy

[1:30:04] in perspective that I espoused

[1:30:07] during the last campaign. And I

[1:30:09] think they still do and I will

[1:30:10] not betray the people in this

[1:30:13] regard. And I had one of the

[1:30:16] (applause)

[1:30:17] One other issue, so many things

[1:30:18] going. I think that is the best.

[1:30:20] As you, know I have no intention

[1:30:21] of resigning. And I do plan to

[1:30:23] run again to save this beautiful

[1:30:25] city. Thank, you sir.

[1:30:26] >> I would just like to make a

[1:30:27] clarification, please.

[1:30:28] >> Go ahead, Councillor Stork. I

[1:30:30] just want to clarify that the

[1:30:32] three special meetings that we

[1:30:33] had weren't against you, they

[1:30:35] were for the citizens of

[1:30:38] Pointe-Claire.

[1:30:39] >> They were against my wishes.

[1:30:40] Councillor Stork sees them as

[1:30:43] the councillors of,

[1:30:44] Pointe-Claire that's very. Now

[1:30:45] if they were special council

[1:30:46] meetings that disagreed with my

[1:30:47] position that were called

[1:30:48] against me, against my position.

[1:30:51] So there we go. Okay, so, Linda.

[1:31:02] Dumas.

[1:31:20] >> It's really useful. I thought

[1:31:22] that was another step.

[1:31:26] >> It's right over there.

[1:31:33] >> I am -- sorry. Good evening,

[1:31:40] I am sad that we are in such

[1:31:42] conflict. My heart is beating a

[1:31:45] little bit faster. My hearing --

[1:31:48] I'm hearing that they are

[1:31:50] possibly or has been some

[1:31:54] compromised -- compromise in

[1:31:55] caucus.

[1:32:02] And I know that

[1:32:11] that we are on the right track

[1:32:13] to save the forest. Because the

[1:32:21] federal ministries, provincial

[1:32:23] ministries, et cetera, et cetera

[1:32:25] are coming on board. And those

[1:32:29] higher levels of government are

[1:32:30] always more ponderous in taking

[1:32:33] a longer time than what we

[1:32:35] should be doing. Linda do it is

[1:32:39] saying that we have some powers.

[1:32:43] I'm so happy that the majority

[1:32:47] of us -- can you not hear?

[1:32:49] >> No, this is better.

[1:32:51] >> Sorry. That the majority of

[1:32:53] us did vote for you and your

[1:32:56] platform. I would like to point

[1:32:57] out that there was a third

[1:32:59] candidate, mayoral T candidate

[1:33:03] who received 8%, whose platform,

[1:33:06] a different personality whose

[1:33:09] platform was really identical

[1:33:13] with saving this lung of

[1:33:18] humanity in the 21st century. We

[1:33:21] must keep in mind, it's the 21st

[1:33:23] century. For over 40 years,

[1:33:27] since 1980, the data has been

[1:33:29] crystal clear that we are --

[1:33:34] that humanity isn't a desperate

[1:33:36] time. The planet does not, the

[1:33:39] planet will do what the planet

[1:33:41] is going to do. But 100 years of

[1:33:45] the 20th century, we were so

[1:33:49] promiscuous, we were so

[1:33:50] wonderful. We were so -- we were

[1:33:58] so -- we were super human

[1:34:00] beings. And we lost the plot.

[1:34:05] And I have so many wishes. I do

[1:34:08] wish that this chair behind you,

[1:34:10] sir, is not just a throwaway

[1:34:14] token. It was presented --

[1:34:21] Sandra, were you here with

[1:34:23] others? There is a desperate

[1:34:24] need for our youth to see in us

[1:34:29] the ability to act for them. To

[1:34:33] give them an inkling of hope for

[1:34:36] the future. Where is granted

[1:34:41] Thunberg always in jail? It is

[1:34:46] perplexing. I started on a

[1:34:48] positive note.

[1:34:53] >> There is a question coming?

[1:34:55] >> No, I never have a question

[1:34:57] because I think that's beneath

[1:34:58] the citizens. This is a

[1:35:03] citizens, period.

[1:35:04] >> It's actually question

[1:35:05] period.

[1:35:06] >> I would like the commentary

[1:35:10] of -- on this pamphlet that I

[1:35:14] found that a post office kiosk.

[1:35:18] The only one, it was last week.

[1:35:21] I have read it. I like it -- I

[1:35:25] like the simplicity of it. It

[1:35:30] wasn't mailed, was? It

[1:35:31] otherwise, I would have received

[1:35:33] it. Were there piles of it

[1:35:35] everywhere? Why don't we have a

[1:35:36] pile of it here? So, I would

[1:35:38] like commentary as to got this.

[1:35:46] I very much like

[1:35:56] -- there is the other stuff, the

[1:35:57] improving the citizen

[1:35:59] consultation platform. And I

[1:36:00] spent all of yesterday with Coco

[1:36:04] Rico, your consultation seemed

[1:36:09] to have wasted an awful lot of

[1:36:11] time last year. And we are going

[1:36:13] at it again. It is 14 pages.

[1:36:16] Everybody, read it. It is very

[1:36:19] good. There is one mention a

[1:36:21] terracotta forest and the

[1:36:22] mention is that we have got to

[1:36:24] get rid of the buck thorn,

[1:36:26] absolutely. I've got it all

[1:36:28] around me. But what I would like

[1:36:31] to, see Madam --, as you have

[1:36:34] said in your comment, that we

[1:36:37] want to be more current. I would

[1:36:40] like to see the next publication

[1:36:42] of this, if you could give me a

[1:36:44] call so that I don't just

[1:36:47] accidentally happened to get it,

[1:36:48] I would like to see you going

[1:36:54] out to the scientific community,

[1:36:57] local and beyond, you really

[1:36:59] don't have to go far. And have

[1:37:03] as many pages that are needed to

[1:37:07] inform the citizenry of this.

[1:37:11] >> Respectfully, you should

[1:37:12] address the mayor.

[1:37:13] >> Excuse me?

[1:37:14] >> You should address the mayor.

[1:37:17] >> Oh, fine. A very good, very

[1:37:20] good. And you, of course. I

[1:37:25] would like commentary. That is

[1:37:27] my question. Can we get the

[1:37:32] green coalition, the legacy

[1:37:34] fund, the wonderful say Fairview

[1:37:38] forest, they are wells of

[1:37:40] knowledge. You are gentlemen.

[1:37:42] Bruno Tremblay is a wealth of

[1:37:44] knowledge. He is your friend. He

[1:37:47] speaks with you. I know that he

[1:37:51] tells you that you have run out

[1:37:52] of time. We've all run out of

[1:37:55] time. If you are going to do

[1:37:59] something, Linda De Witt said it

[1:38:01] best, get it done. And there's

[1:38:04] always a way to pay for this.

[1:38:05] There is always a way to

[1:38:08] negotiate. And the thought came

[1:38:09] to me after reading 24 hours of

[1:38:14] the Ontario teachers pension

[1:38:16] plan on Cadillac Fairview over

[1:38:17] the last 24 hours. Their mandate

[1:38:20] is to improve, improve, improve,

[1:38:23] get to zero net. Tell Cadillac

[1:38:28] Fairview who is owned and does

[1:38:31] the bidding of a teacher's

[1:38:33] pension plan that they don't

[1:38:36] have to initially spend a scent

[1:38:40] if they keep that forest as it

[1:38:44] is. It will benefit the heat

[1:38:47] island, their heat island,

[1:38:49] they're in permeability, which,

[1:38:53] councillors, that has to be

[1:38:55] changed.

[1:38:56] >> I've got to get you --

[1:38:57] >> Commentary, please, from

[1:38:59] Madame Verdun. I don't know who

[1:39:01] puts this together. I would

[1:39:04] really love to see something to

[1:39:07] address the issue that we voted

[1:39:11] in for, that two mayoral tea

[1:39:15] candidates worked on and it's

[1:39:18] not pie in the sky. That's why

[1:39:21] on October 15th, probably, was

[1:39:23] as raucous as it was, sadly, as

[1:39:25] it was. And hopefully has

[1:39:30] spurred this somewhat

[1:39:32] reconciliation. Please do not

[1:39:33] frighten us, Mr. Stork, with

[1:39:37] money. Money will always be

[1:39:38] found to do the right thing. The

[1:39:40] money that we don't have is

[1:39:43] reparations for not doing what

[1:39:45] we absolutely must do.

[1:39:53] >> That's it? No question?

[1:39:55] >> My question is, I would like

[1:39:57] commentary.

[1:39:58] >> Commentary on that?

[1:39:59] >> Yes.

[1:40:01] >> Madame Verdun?

[1:40:04] >> We want to see --

[1:40:05] >> Oh, no, no. Okay, all right.

[1:40:12] I met, how are we distributing

[1:40:13] it and who are we sending it to?

[1:40:16] No, okay. Ralph statistic? I

[1:40:29] can't answer for Madame Verdun.

[1:40:33] >> It's a question period for

[1:40:35] the City Council.

[1:40:36] >> Yes. Okay, so -- no, no, no.

[1:40:42] It's a question period for City

[1:40:44] Council. The staff does, and the

[1:40:48] staff makes the --

[1:40:49] >> It's the communications

[1:40:52] department.

[1:40:53] >> You can ask the

[1:40:54] communications department

[1:40:56] tomorrow, Mrs. do miss. Okay,

[1:41:01] Mister stock?

[1:41:04] >> I'll be really fast.

[1:41:07] [Laughter]

[1:41:08] Last month, I was so upset with

[1:41:11] Council, I had kind of had it

[1:41:13] and given up, really, on the

[1:41:18] possibilities. And I am really

[1:41:20] afraid to be optimistic tonight.

[1:41:23] But extremely hopeful and I hope

[1:41:26] it doesn't get screwed up and I

[1:41:28] think the citizens have said it

[1:41:29] over and over again, whatever

[1:41:31] side you are on, it looks like

[1:41:34] you have made yourselves an

[1:41:37] opportunity and responded with

[1:41:40] some leadership to finally sort

[1:41:43] this out in a way that you know

[1:41:44] the citizens want. So, I am

[1:41:48] encouraged. I've thrown out what

[1:41:49] I was going to say because I

[1:41:51] read very carefully, many times

[1:41:52] over, your resolution. I like

[1:41:55] some of the changes. Who knows

[1:41:56] what it will be eventually. I do

[1:41:59] want to say that I hope -- it

[1:42:04] didn't seem to be in the current

[1:42:06] resolution. I hope, in the end,

[1:42:08] that Cadillac Fairview will have

[1:42:12] no role in determining the

[1:42:15] nature of our consultations. And

[1:42:18] Cadillac Fairview will not be

[1:42:21] involved in early meetings where

[1:42:23] they determine what people can

[1:42:25] say and what the agenda is.

[1:42:28] Whether it be in consultations

[1:42:30] or with the eventual outcomes

[1:42:33] for Mu1 and Mu2. That's not

[1:42:35] their role, that is the private

[1:42:38] corporation. Their role, is to

[1:42:40] get as much profit as they

[1:42:41] possibly can for their

[1:42:43] stakeholders. And that is all

[1:42:44] fine and good. But our city,

[1:42:47] it's our cities role, our cities

[1:42:49] administration, our cities

[1:42:51] councillors to determine our

[1:42:54] future, not a private

[1:42:55] corporation. Even if they do run

[1:42:57] the land, it doesn't matter. The

[1:43:00] City has a role. And I hope that

[1:43:03] that is realized. And I think

[1:43:05] you've maybe taken a real step

[1:43:07] in leadership and compromise.

[1:43:09] And I am very, very hopeful that

[1:43:11] you guys can get it together.

[1:43:13] Thank you very much. And I'm

[1:43:15] going to stop because I don't

[1:43:17] have a question. You answered it

[1:43:19] when you change the agenda.

[1:43:21] Thanks.

[1:43:22] >> Okay. Sandra Mackay? Same

[1:43:25] there?

[1:43:28] [Inaudible]

[1:43:30] >> May I have a comment, please?

[1:43:34] We also it was originally

[1:43:37] written. It was much more

[1:43:39] encompassing. It was very heavy.

[1:43:41] It was mentioned, Cadillac

[1:43:44] Fairview, Mu1, Mu2. I just want

[1:43:47] to say that after what

[1:43:50] transpired with the letters, Mr.

[1:43:54] -- speech last month, which

[1:43:56] upset me, that's, okay your

[1:43:57] motion will just like I am. When

[1:44:00] we came to caucus today,

[1:44:03] obviously, it is behind closed

[1:44:05] doors. But I can see for the

[1:44:06] first time that we discussed

[1:44:08] things and had an open

[1:44:10] conversation. And we figured it

[1:44:12] out. I just want to point out

[1:44:14] that things were going south,

[1:44:16] yes. And I mean this from the

[1:44:18] bottom of my heart, I thank

[1:44:21] Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, because I

[1:44:22] think she rained everything back

[1:44:23] in to an extent. And I think we

[1:44:25] got to a situation where on

[1:44:27] Council, everybody, except the

[1:44:29] mayor, which is fine, it's his

[1:44:31] prerogative, the favour of this

[1:44:33] new resolution to get exactly

[1:44:35] that. Cadillac Fairview is in,

[1:44:37] we pulled them out. We've

[1:44:39] changed things. Originally, we

[1:44:40] were going to add something. If

[1:44:43] they do want to play games, we

[1:44:44] will do this anyhow. So I think

[1:44:46] we really came to a compromise.

[1:44:48] That all of our target audience

[1:44:51] and, that's what we need to do.

[1:44:53] I think the Mayor mentioned it's

[1:44:54] a bit of a watershed moment and

[1:44:56] hopefully we can continue that.

[1:44:59] >> David Johnson?

[1:45:12] >> Just like my new best friend,

[1:45:15] Ralph, I'm very impressed that

[1:45:21] tonight, you had a meeting hours

[1:45:25] before Council, there were

[1:45:29] points of disagreement going

[1:45:30] into. It somehow, you worked

[1:45:34] collaboratively and have come to

[1:45:36] a consensus. Congratulations to

[1:45:40] you all. Did you have the same

[1:45:45] meeting before the special

[1:45:49] meeting in October?

[1:45:57] >> Why was there no meeting like

[1:46:00] there was tonight?

[1:46:01] >> The meeting we have tonight

[1:46:03] was a direct result of the last

[1:46:05] meeting. And that's why it went

[1:46:07] so positively.

[1:46:08] >> I would like to comment to

[1:46:09] that, please.

[1:46:10] >> Sure.

[1:46:11] >> I think the meeting of a

[1:46:13] month and a half ago, when I

[1:46:15] said in public that I was going

[1:46:17] to make this a little -- and put

[1:46:19] together a resolution

[1:46:21] communicating after that, I

[1:46:22] think this meeting, yes, you're

[1:46:26] resolution, some -- as we said,

[1:46:28] we all agreed on public

[1:46:30] consultations. It's just that

[1:46:31] some people had concerns all the

[1:46:33] way was written and we put a

[1:46:34] majority of what was in yours

[1:46:37] and adopted it. But please do

[1:46:39] not say that this meeting, this

[1:46:41] resolution is subject to what

[1:46:42] you did last week. This process

[1:46:45] started much before.

[1:46:46] >> It's not what I did last

[1:46:47] week. Gets what the citizens did

[1:46:48] last week. And I think, Mr.

[1:46:50] Johnson, that we've had ample

[1:46:53] opportunity to have meetings

[1:46:54] like the one we had tonight.

[1:46:57] We've had ample opportunities.

[1:47:01] >> This is a good --

[1:47:03] >> It's not a specific moment.

[1:47:04] We've had three years of

[1:47:07] opportunity. It happened

[1:47:08] tonight. I particularly think --

[1:47:11] >> It's a breakthrough.

[1:47:12] >> I think that the last meeting

[1:47:15] had a major influence. And I

[1:47:18] think the citizens had an impact

[1:47:19] and I applaud them. And I think

[1:47:22] that's --

[1:47:23] >> Congratulations to you. Well

[1:47:24] >> Councillor Tremblay, did you

[1:47:26] want to speak? No, okay.

[1:47:43] >> I can never be heard, all

[1:47:44] these questions. You're keeping

[1:47:45] us on our toes. I just want to

[1:47:48] mention about the whereas, I

[1:47:50] know it is too late to modify

[1:47:51] the resolution but I would like

[1:47:56] to, I can member who it was that

[1:47:57] said about the 30% protection of

[1:47:59] green spaces.

[1:48:00] >> That was me.

[1:48:01] >> That was you, thank you very

[1:48:03] much. The peanut does require,

[1:48:06] it does recommend protection of

[1:48:08] 30% of green spaces. I would

[1:48:09] also like to mention that the --

[1:48:14] protected the wetlands. The new

[1:48:17] scheme is in the draft versions

[1:48:19] but it protects 30% of the

[1:48:22] forest because of the wetlands.

[1:48:24] That is important that it be in

[1:48:26] their. I think it could be

[1:48:27] really important for it to be in

[1:48:28] there. But as for my questions,

[1:48:34] first of, all I'm really excited

[1:48:35] about the fact that the

[1:48:36] resolution came forward. I

[1:48:37] appreciate all the work you put

[1:48:38] into it. Sorry, I'm just going

[1:48:42] off notes I wrote really quickly

[1:48:44] to reassess after tonight. I'm

[1:48:47] wondering what the consultations

[1:48:49] could look like. Could it look

[1:48:51] like a presentation of the

[1:48:52] information you've gathered? Or

[1:48:54] is it a consultation where you

[1:48:56] ask for citizens participation?

[1:48:58] I am just curious about what

[1:49:00] that could look like, or you

[1:49:01] don't know what that could look

[1:49:02] like yet.

[1:49:06] >> First of, all have been

[1:49:08] forbid it should be us, I don't

[1:49:09] think it should be, as I think

[1:49:10] it should be a professional.

[1:49:11] We've had consultants in the

[1:49:14] consultation process. It should

[1:49:15] remain that way, keeping the

[1:49:18] politician -- politicians out of

[1:49:19] the consultation. I think it is

[1:49:20] the way we've done. If that

[1:49:21] would be my input on that one.

[1:49:24] As to the structuring of the

[1:49:25] consultation, that's us. And

[1:49:27] that's us through the urban

[1:49:29] planning part. We will see what

[1:49:31] will happen. I can't predict the

[1:49:35] future. I am a trained

[1:49:37] methodology of. I'm very

[1:49:38] concerned about it. I think it's

[1:49:41] very important that we solicit

[1:49:43] opinion in a proper way because

[1:49:45] it's a genuine expression of the

[1:49:47] population. And hopefully,

[1:49:48] that's what we will do.

[1:49:50] >> Would you consider presenting

[1:49:52] the information to the public

[1:49:53] once you've gathered that?

[1:49:55] >> I would think so, yes.

[1:49:57] >> Okay. My second follow-up

[1:50:02] question, would you take the

[1:50:03] liberty of changing the

[1:50:04] timelines? I find the timeline

[1:50:06] extremely tied together, all the

[1:50:07] information.

[1:50:08] >> Absolutely.

[1:50:09] >> I still do understand if the

[1:50:10] study was part of that but I'm

[1:50:11] concerned about the very short

[1:50:12] timeline until February, would

[1:50:13] you consider changing that

[1:50:15] timeline?

[1:50:16] >> I think it was changed, was

[1:50:17] it not?

[1:50:18] >> I think it remained February

[1:50:20] 1st.

[1:50:21] >> As I mentioned to you on a

[1:50:23] social platform, we felt

[1:50:26] January, we moved up to February

[1:50:28] 1st. But that is just to give us

[1:50:30] feedback, to give some

[1:50:31] information of where we are at.

[1:50:33] As I mentioned, like, the study

[1:50:34] that is required, everything

[1:50:37] else surrounding it, probably a

[1:50:40] 15 month study to do a proper

[1:50:42] study. You know, I mentioned the

[1:50:44] -- that was done in seven for

[1:50:47] our visits over three months.

[1:50:51] >> In over nine months.

[1:50:53] >> Actually, we can debate that

[1:50:55] after. I'm not discrediting it.

[1:50:57] I'm saying a true study takes

[1:50:59] that long. That's what we have

[1:51:00] to start this process. We have

[1:51:02] everything else. But I think we

[1:51:03] have to set goals and targets. I

[1:51:06] mean, this resolution was forced

[1:51:08] because I felt, and the majority

[1:51:09] of Council felt that we weren't

[1:51:11] doing things, for whatever

[1:51:13] reason. And I'm not blaming

[1:51:14] anybody. I'm part of the blame

[1:51:16] myself, believe me. But we have

[1:51:18] to start a process. And I think

[1:51:20] that is what we accomplished

[1:51:22] today. The February date is just

[1:51:24] a come back and say, you know,

[1:51:26] we are almost done. We are

[1:51:27] getting here. There is not much

[1:51:29] longer. But you have to give

[1:51:30] time to the administration.

[1:51:33] Something we have to do,

[1:51:34] regretfully. They need the time

[1:51:36] to come back and say, hey, it's

[1:51:38] going to take 18 months. This

[1:51:39] will take four months. Here's an

[1:51:40] answer on that. Throughout the

[1:51:42] process, we listen to our

[1:51:43] citizens. We hear them. We can

[1:51:45] add and modify and things as

[1:51:47] such as we go along. But my

[1:51:49] endgame is simple. At one point,

[1:51:51] synthesized this information, as

[1:51:52] I said and share with the

[1:51:55] popular so that we can make

[1:51:57] sound, educated, fundamental

[1:52:00] decisions. And what can we do?

[1:52:02] What are our options? That's

[1:52:05] part of the process. It will be

[1:52:06] a moving target. As the mayor

[1:52:08] said, they should come from

[1:52:10] professional people who do their

[1:52:12] job.

[1:52:13] >> 100%. Just the wording of the

[1:52:15] resolution was that, come

[1:52:17] February 1st, the consultation

[1:52:19] framework would be established.

[1:52:21] So I thought it just seemed very

[1:52:24] process -- that seemed very

[1:52:26] rapid to meet.

[1:52:27] >> I agree with you. That is far

[1:52:28] too rapid for that. My hope and

[1:52:35] understanding, I can't speak for

[1:52:36] everybody, but we can respond to

[1:52:39] the options presented by the

[1:52:41] various legal frameworks, Bill

[1:52:43] 30, nine Bill 20, two et cetera.

[1:52:45] Even the -- we can get answers

[1:52:48] to that. These are the primary

[1:52:53] ones, the really paramount

[1:52:54] issues. We should have some of

[1:52:55] those in our heads before, by

[1:52:58] February. But you are, right we

[1:52:59] are in no position to go to

[1:53:01] consultation by February, I

[1:53:02] don't think. Especially if we

[1:53:03] are doing environmental

[1:53:04] assessments, we are no position

[1:53:06] to go to consultation. I agree.

[1:53:09] >> I'm still a little bit -- as

[1:53:10] to how this is going to unroll.

[1:53:13] >> I know what happens tonight.

[1:53:15] >> We've been here for four

[1:53:17] years but for this topic, I've

[1:53:18] been here many years before

[1:53:20] that. Really, I just want to say

[1:53:22] that we appreciate how much work

[1:53:24] has gone into this and the fact

[1:53:25] that it sounds like caucus and

[1:53:26] went okay on this topic. Just

[1:53:30] going to breathe a little bit of

[1:53:32] a sigh of relief here and I'm

[1:53:33] looking forward to seeing what

[1:53:34] happens moving forward. So,

[1:53:36] thank you.

[1:53:40] >> Gerard.

[1:53:41] Bonjour écrivez.

[1:53:50] >> Lynn Conway?

[1:53:58] >> Lynn Conway, good evening.

[1:54:05] The resolution mentioned

[1:54:06] consultations.

[1:54:11] With the firm in the

[1:54:14] consultations -- maybe 100

[1:54:15] people at the most. Why not do a

[1:54:18] referendum on the issues? To

[1:54:24] really know what citizens want.

[1:54:26] >> A referendum on which issue?

[1:54:30] >> For the private spaces, the

[1:54:33] private forest.

[1:54:34] >> Public spaces?

[1:54:36] >> The resolution that was voted

[1:54:38] tonight, to have public

[1:54:40] participation. Why not do a

[1:54:41] referendum instead?

[1:54:42] >> Well, referendums are costly

[1:54:44] and expensive. If we do it, I

[1:54:47] don't see us doing referendums

[1:54:49] on every single issue that comes

[1:54:50] up in Council. I don't know the

[1:54:52] feasibility of it. I mean,

[1:54:53] having a referendum, the

[1:54:55] question, of course, is crucial,

[1:54:58] all right? And they tend to be

[1:55:00] divisive. But who knows. Nothing

[1:55:02] is impossible. It is a

[1:55:05] possibility.

[1:55:06] >> This is the biggest issue

[1:55:07] this Council had since day one.

[1:55:13] As I've mentioned before, I

[1:55:15] participated in the

[1:55:17] consultations and at most, there

[1:55:18] was 100 people in the room.

[1:55:21] >> That's pretty good. That's

[1:55:22] pretty good, as far as

[1:55:23] consultations go. 100 people.

[1:55:24] >> It's just 100 people are

[1:55:26] giving their opinions. It

[1:55:29] doesn't really reflect the whole

[1:55:31] city.

[1:55:33] >> Well, an election is a

[1:55:34] reflection of the whole city.

[1:55:35] Even then, you get very little

[1:55:37] turnout. Whether you are going

[1:55:39] to get, I mean, 100 is good and

[1:55:42] public participation, if you get

[1:55:43] 100, that's quite an

[1:55:44] achievement. If you get over 50,

[1:55:45] that's quite an achievement in

[1:55:47] public consultation. And I'm

[1:55:49] quite pleased at that. Actually,

[1:55:51] if you have a series of

[1:55:54] consultations, that's quite a

[1:55:55] good turnout. No, no, no. We

[1:55:59] cannot speak from the audience.

[1:56:01] Excuse me, Miss Dumas. We can't

[1:56:04] speak from the audience, one

[1:56:06] can't speak from the audience.

[1:56:08] Sorry, Miss Conway, did you --

[1:56:11] >> Didn't answer my first

[1:56:12] question. The second one is

[1:56:14] again about the -- resolution of

[1:56:16] this evening. You kept

[1:56:18] mentioning private green spaces.

[1:56:19] >> It should be private and

[1:56:21] public. It should include both

[1:56:23] as per my resolution.

[1:56:26] >> But the resolution --

[1:56:27] >> Green spaces, private and

[1:56:29] public includes all green

[1:56:30] spaces.

[1:56:31] >> All the public ones we own

[1:56:32] are already protected. That's

[1:56:33] why it says private green

[1:56:34] spaces. It was done prior to

[1:56:36] this council getting together.

[1:56:38] >> Even if we own them, there

[1:56:39] are not necessarily protected.

[1:56:41] There may be different ways,

[1:56:43] different ways to -- there may

[1:56:46] be different ways -- protection

[1:56:48] is a debatable term. Anyhow,

[1:56:51] Miss Conway --

[1:56:53] >> From what I heard, I kept

[1:56:55] hearing private green spaces

[1:56:57] over and over. Mrs. Linda De

[1:57:02] which mentioned Fairview forest

[1:57:04] and Mu2. I don't think they were

[1:57:08] specifically mentioned in the

[1:57:09] resolution, can we have a list

[1:57:10] of what they are?

[1:57:13] >> Private and public green

[1:57:16] spaces, all of it. It's all of.

[1:57:17] It

[1:57:18] >> Spaces that will be in the

[1:57:19] resolution do you have a list of

[1:57:21] them --

[1:57:22] >> Not offhand, ponder which

[1:57:24] might be included, Beaconsfield

[1:57:26] golf course, these are a few I'm

[1:57:29] thinking. If there are other

[1:57:32] private green spaces in

[1:57:34] Pointe-Claire, other than the

[1:57:35] Fairview forest.

[1:57:36] >> Can I ask Eric, what is in

[1:57:37] your mind -- do you share the

[1:57:39] same list?

[1:57:40] >> No, I will not. I think this

[1:57:42] is a Council decision, we will

[1:57:43] go back, we can communicate and

[1:57:46] discuss what informations are

[1:57:48] provided and come back,

[1:57:49] hopefully on a unit -- united

[1:57:51] front.

[1:57:52] >> This council voted on this

[1:57:53] resolution but nobody can

[1:57:54] provide us with the list is of

[1:57:56] the private green spaces?

[1:57:59] >> We are not there yet. We have

[1:58:00] not even -- we just decided to

[1:58:02] do it two hours ago. Three hours

[1:58:07] ago. We just decided. We have no

[1:58:08] idea where we are going.

[1:58:10] >> But some thoughts, even

[1:58:11] before October 15th, some

[1:58:13] thought has been put into this.

[1:58:14] >> We haven't gotten to this

[1:58:16] point yet. We are just there

[1:58:18] now.

[1:58:20] >> Okay, thank you.

[1:58:21] >> Thank you. Do we have time,

[1:58:24] Madam? One more. Murray Scott?

[1:58:27] >> Three more.

[1:58:29] >> Nine minutes left.

[1:58:31] >> Nine.

[1:58:33] >> Maureen Scott?

[1:58:43] >> Good evening. I too would

[1:58:45] like to just add my thanks for

[1:58:49] what the council has brought

[1:58:51] this evening, a sign of hope.

[1:58:56] All my questions have actually

[1:58:57] been dealt with, the ones I came

[1:59:00] with and signed up for. I would

[1:59:06] just add that I never had a

[1:59:08] chance like the rest of the

[1:59:11] audience to see the amended

[1:59:14] resolution before it was

[1:59:17] presented. And so, that's fine.

[1:59:23] [Laughter]

[1:59:24] But it all came like a wave. And

[1:59:27] I tried to listen carefully to

[1:59:29] find out everything that was

[1:59:31] referred to. I think many of the

[1:59:33] other speakers have brought up

[1:59:36] the points that came from that

[1:59:40] second, or that I voted on, the

[1:59:42] resolution this evening. I will

[1:59:44] go home and try to sort

[1:59:46] everything out and learn more

[1:59:47] about what has been said this

[1:59:49] evening. And I will just try to

[1:59:51] do my best to keep up.

[1:59:54] >> Well, do grab a copy of the

[1:59:56] resolution.

[1:59:57] >> The resolution is not on the

[1:59:58] table.

[1:59:59] >> It's not on the table?

[2:00:00] >> No, you spoke to it very

[2:00:03] fast. I was trying to support

[2:00:05] everything. I just need to learn

[2:00:06] about it.

[2:00:08] >> Okay, we've got to get a copy

[2:00:09] out there.

[2:00:11] >> Yes.

[2:00:12] >> Janet Hannah.

[2:00:19] >> Thank you. You brought this

[2:00:23] up before. $25 million, $25

[2:00:28] million, $25 million for the

[2:00:31] renovation of a building.

[2:00:35] Pointe-Claire Public Works. No

[2:00:37] contract details, no supplies

[2:00:38] details, and no suppliers

[2:00:40] details, and no raw materials

[2:00:43] details, and no labour cost

[2:00:46] details. Why?

[2:00:48] >> Can I just interrupt? We had

[2:00:50] an entire session on that, an

[2:00:51] entire council meeting on all

[2:00:53] the details about public works.

[2:00:56] >> There is nothing that is on

[2:00:57] the website. We asked for it in

[2:01:00] June of last year, there was

[2:01:02] information that was going to be

[2:01:04] posted on the website and it is

[2:01:06] not there. We pay federal income

[2:01:10] tax, provincial income tax, GST,

[2:01:12] PTSD, Q S T, all the STDs.

[2:01:16] Property tax, water tax with

[2:01:19] fluoride in it, God forbid.

[2:01:21] School tax, welcome tax. Where

[2:01:26] are all our tax dollars going?

[2:01:29] Nonprofit organizations,

[2:01:31] hundreds of thousands of dollars

[2:01:33] going into a black hole. Who are

[2:01:37] these organizations? Who works

[2:01:40] there? What do they do with our

[2:01:42] money? You, as mayor and

[2:01:47] councillors, is the car you are

[2:01:49] driving paid for by us? Do you

[2:01:52] have an expense account? Do you

[2:01:53] get bonuses? $25 million,

[2:02:00] hundreds of thousands of dollars

[2:02:03] to nonprofit organizations.

[2:02:06] Hundreds of thousands of dollars

[2:02:07] for office furniture. Where it

[2:02:10] is and? Who are you working for?

[2:02:14] It doesn't look like you are

[2:02:15] working for us, although you

[2:02:17] were all elected to work for us,

[2:02:19] the residents of Pointe-Claire.

[2:02:22] We are tired of paying taxes and

[2:02:24] want property taxes, school

[2:02:27] taxes, water taxes and welcome

[2:02:30] taxes abolished. All these taxes

[2:02:35] are a form of slavery, aren't

[2:02:37] they? We work to give you our

[2:02:40] money to put into black holes.

[2:02:44] All this while people starve and

[2:02:46] have a hard time making ends

[2:02:48] meet. Then there is the C 40

[2:02:53] cities program. I suppose you

[2:02:55] are familiar with that? Of which

[2:02:58] Montréal has become a part of.

[2:03:01] That is the idea of the

[2:03:03] 15-minute city. Basically, an

[2:03:05] open air prison. An open air

[2:03:09] prison for the residents of

[2:03:12] Pointe-Claire. You want to

[2:03:14] implement the 15-minute city,

[2:03:15] isn't that right? You want to

[2:03:18] put all the citizens of

[2:03:19] Pointe-Claire in an open air

[2:03:22] prison. Right? All of course in

[2:03:25] the name of the fake climate

[2:03:28] change agenda.

[2:03:30] [Laughter]

[2:03:33] >> If that is the case, when you

[2:03:34] plant

[2:03:35] (applause)

[2:03:36] -- Plan to resign, because you

[2:03:37] no longer serve the residents of

[2:03:40] Pointe-Claire? This applies to

[2:03:41] you, all Mayor and councillors.

[2:03:42] If you will not reject or back

[2:03:46] out of the C 40's program, if

[2:03:50] you will not abolish property

[2:03:52] taxes, water tax, school tax,

[2:03:54] welcome tax, then when will you

[2:03:57] resign? We need a mayor and

[2:04:00] councillors who will serve the

[2:04:02] people and work for the people

[2:04:04] and work for the well-being of

[2:04:06] the people and the residents of

[2:04:09] Pointe-Claire. Please don't use

[2:04:11] climate change as an excuse

[2:04:13] because that is a big hoax.

[2:04:16] Thank you.

[2:04:17] >> Okay. Is there a question in

[2:04:18] there?

[2:04:19] >> Yeah, that was a question.

[2:04:20] >> That's it? Okay. I will refer

[2:04:23] you -- to answer that, I will

[2:04:25] start broad and narrow down.

[2:04:29] Thomas hubs once wrote that

[2:04:32] without the lion, life would be

[2:04:35] nasty, brutish and short. And if

[2:04:37] you know what he means by that,

[2:04:39] if you don't have good

[2:04:41] government or nation states, if

[2:04:43] you don't have an overarching

[2:04:45] form of redistribution, taxes

[2:04:46] and services, you have a dog eat

[2:04:49] dog world where people die

[2:04:51] quickly at a young age and

[2:04:52] that's what happens when you

[2:04:53] don't have the life in. You get

[2:04:56] lord of the flies. We've seen

[2:04:57] this over time. You get mad Max.

[2:05:01] The love I think keeps us safe

[2:05:03] and alive. And I am answering

[2:05:05] the question. Your tax dollars

[2:05:07] goes to the live Ethan. We are

[2:05:08] the love of thin, so is the

[2:05:10] provincial and the federal. We

[2:05:12] look after things get

[2:05:14] redistributed, things get even

[2:05:16] back to people. Incredible what

[2:05:19] Pointe-Claire gives its citizens

[2:05:20] for its tax. Dollar I'm sitting

[2:05:21] here and I see. It it's

[2:05:23] incredible services citizens

[2:05:25] get. And again -- excuse me,

[2:05:28] excuse me, I will answer the --

[2:05:31] excuse me. You can't yell from

[2:05:32] your chair, okay? You can't

[2:05:34] speak from your chair. I'm

[2:05:37] answering your question. You

[2:05:38] have one follow-up question,

[2:05:40] okay? One follow-up question.

[2:05:42] And I'm not finished answering

[2:05:44] it. The important thing to

[2:05:47] remember about what we do is

[2:05:50] that it is the best we can do

[2:05:51] with the tax dollar that comes

[2:05:53] in. You get your water, you get

[2:05:55] your streets, you get the

[2:05:57] police. That is not municipal.

[2:05:59] But everything that you get in

[2:06:01] society that makes your life

[2:06:02] saint and safe comes from the

[2:06:04] Laval youth. To say that it is a

[2:06:08] waste of money is preposterous

[2:06:11] in my opinion. Non profit

[2:06:16] organizations as black holes, I

[2:06:18] go to nonprofit organizations to

[2:06:20] support them, friends of mental

[2:06:23] health -- the hearing impaired,

[2:06:29] hunger, food scarcity. These are

[2:06:32] people giving from the bottom of

[2:06:34] their hearts that don't have

[2:06:35] anything and we, as a government

[2:06:38] or the City of Pointe-Claire is

[2:06:39] great doing this, we subsidize

[2:06:41] these organizations, and I'm

[2:06:44] proud of the city. This was

[2:06:47] around long before. Me we look

[2:06:48] after those groups because they

[2:06:49] look after the people that fall

[2:06:52] through the social safety net.

[2:06:54] And people that fall through the

[2:06:55] net are in real need of help.

[2:06:58] How is your health care? Are you

[2:07:00] always cared for? Do you always

[2:07:01] get what you need? Is it

[2:07:02] immediate? Is it quick? Some of

[2:07:05] these organizations complement

[2:07:07] and augment and serve people

[2:07:09] where the state can't cover all

[2:07:12] what is asked of it. I don't

[2:07:15] apologize at all for the

[2:07:19] organizations as a city for

[2:07:20] subsidizing them. I enact them

[2:07:22] all the time. I support them for

[2:07:23] the exact same reason. That's my

[2:07:28] quick answer. Do you want a

[2:07:30] subsequent one?

[2:07:33] [Laughter]

[2:07:34] No?

[2:07:35] >> Yes, actually. If people had

[2:07:37] money in their pockets by not

[2:07:39] paying as much taxes, as much in

[2:07:42] taxes as we are paying, these

[2:07:45] organizations would not exist

[2:07:46] because there would not be a

[2:07:47] need for them to exist. And if

[2:07:49] some of them do need to exist in

[2:07:51] order to help the population,

[2:07:53] that should be paid for both by

[2:07:55] the federal and the municipal

[2:07:57] governments. And both federal

[2:07:58] and municipal governments

[2:08:00] collect enough in income taxes

[2:08:02] from us to be able to distribute

[2:08:04] that money instead of it going

[2:08:07] to illegal migrants or migrants

[2:08:09] coming in and receiving 20 $400

[2:08:12] a month.

[2:08:14] >> You are watching the wrong

[2:08:16] program. Listen, everybody, I

[2:08:20] suggest you run for Council. I

[2:08:24] will just answer quickly. But

[2:08:26] that's it, I will answer that

[2:08:28] and we will carry on with the

[2:08:30] meeting. History has taught us

[2:08:35] overtime that eventually, we

[2:08:38] come to revolution when we leave

[2:08:40] all the money in people's

[2:08:41] pockets. When money gets left in

[2:08:43] people's pockets.

[2:08:44] >> Basically, we are stupid, we

[2:08:46] can't manage our own money?

[2:08:47] >> You are done, excuse me.

[2:08:51] Okay.

[2:08:52] >> Time is up, Mister Mayor.

[2:08:53] >> Okay, thank you. I would like

[2:08:54] to answer, I had one last thing.

[2:08:57] To Mr. Kelly, Mr. Kelly, I

[2:08:59] forgot the point I wanted to

[2:09:00] answer. I went to the gym based

[2:09:03] school of marrying, the mayor of

[2:09:07] Pierrefonds. He has always said

[2:09:09] to get on the ground. You don't

[2:09:11] need to sit around and have your

[2:09:13] -- they are incompetent, what to

[2:09:15] do. You go see what is going on

[2:09:17] in your city in person and you

[2:09:19] look after it and you watch it

[2:09:20] and you go speak to the people

[2:09:22] themselves. And that is what

[2:09:23] good mayors do. And good mayors

[2:09:24] don't sit in an ivory tower.

[2:09:25] They get out on the ground and

[2:09:27] see the people. And I learned

[2:09:29] that from a very good man. And

[2:09:31] that is the part --. Okay, let's

[2:09:37] -- 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt

[2:09:38] d'un projet de règlement

[2:09:39] modifiant le Règlement PC-2512

[2:09:40] sur la distribution de matériel

[2:09:41] publicitaire. Un projet de

[2:09:43] règlement prévoit une

[2:09:44] modification afin des référer

[2:09:45] aux règlements des tarifs pour

[2:09:46] les frais applicables.

[2:09:52] >> 5.2 Notice of motion and

[2:09:53] filing of a draft By-law

[2:09:54] amending By-law PC2642

[2:09:55] pertaining to the granting of

[2:09:56] permits to peddlers and amending

[2:09:57] By-law PC-2396 regulating

[2:09:58] various trades and industries.

[2:10:00] The draft bylaw provides for an

[2:10:02] amendment to increase the

[2:10:03] terrasse bylaw for applicable

[2:10:05] fees. 5.3 Avis de motion et

[2:10:06] dépôt d'un projet de règlement

[2:10:07] modifiant le Règlement de zonage

[2:10:08] PC-2775 dans le but de régir

[2:10:09] l'aménagement d'une unité

[2:10:11] d'habitation accessoire aménagée

[2:10:12] à l'intérieur d'un immeuble

[2:10:13] résidentiel appartenant à la

[2:10:14] classe d'usage « A ». Les unités

[2:10:18] d'habitation accessoires seront

[2:10:19] permises dans les secteurs

[2:10:20] résidentiels à faible densité où

[2:10:22] les habitations unifamiliales

[2:10:24] détachées et ça m'détaché sont

[2:10:26] aussi.

[2:10:29] >> 5.4 Notice of motion and

[2:10:30] filing of a draft by-law

[2:10:32] amending Conditional Uses By-law

[2:10:33] PC-2791 in order to govern

[2:10:35] accessory dwelling units

[2:10:36] (ADU)

[2:10:37] located in residential buildings

[2:10:38] belonging to class « A » use.

[2:10:39] This bylaw will be amended to

[2:10:41] include provisions applicable to

[2:10:42] the conversion of detached

[2:10:44] accessory buildings for the

[2:10:46] addition of a new building to

[2:10:47] allow the development of an

[2:10:48] accessory dwelling unit. 5.5

[2:10:49] Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

[2:10:50] projet de règlement modifiant le

[2:10:51] Règlement PC-2787 sur les plans

[2:10:52] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:10:54] architecturale

[2:10:55] (PIIA)

[2:10:56] dans le but de régir les unités

[2:10:58] d'habitation accessoire aménagés

[2:10:59] à l'intérieur d'immeubles

[2:11:00] résidentiels appartenant à la

[2:11:01] classe d'usage « A ». Le

[2:11:03] règlement sera modifié afin

[2:11:04] d'inclure des objectifs des

[2:11:06] critères pour analyse des unités

[2:11:07] d'habitations intégrées au

[2:11:08] détaché du bâtiment principal.

[2:11:12] >> 5.6 Notice of motion and

[2:11:13] filing of a draft by-law

[2:11:14] amending Construction By-law

[2:11:15] PC-2786 in order to govern

[2:11:16] accessory dwelling units

[2:11:20] (ADU)

[2:11:21] located inside residential

[2:11:22] buildings belonging to class

[2:11:23] â€œAâ€ use. This bylaw will be

[2:11:25] amended to include -- integrated

[2:11:27] or detached from the main

[2:11:29] building. 5.7 Avis de motion et

[2:11:30] dépôt d'un projet de règlement

[2:11:31] modifiant le règlement de

[2:11:32] lotissement PC-2774 dans le but

[2:11:33] de régir les unités d'habitation

[2:11:35] accessoire aménagés

[2:11:36] (UHA)

[2:11:38] à l'intérieur d'immeubles

[2:11:40] résidentiels appartenant à la

[2:11:41] classe d'usage « A ». Le

[2:11:42] règlement sera modifié afin

[2:11:43] d'interdire toute opération

[2:11:44] catastrophe dans le but de

[2:11:45] détacher l'unité d'habitation

[2:11:46] accessoire de l'immeuble

[2:11:48] résidentiel. 5,1 à 5,6... 5.9

[2:11:54] Adoption avec modifications d'un

[2:11:55] règlement décrétant les tarifs

[2:11:56] exigibles pour le financement de

[2:11:57] biens, services et activités

[2:11:58] offerts par la Ville de

[2:11:59] Pointe-Claire pour l'exercice

[2:12:00] financier 2025.

[2:12:01] >> Brett Cowan, district eight.

[2:12:04] >>

[2:12:05] 5.8 Adoption without

[2:12:06] modification of a by-law

[2:12:07] amending the Village Code,

[2:12:08] By-law PC-2880, regarding

[2:12:09] authorized residential use

[2:12:10] classes as well as the layout of

[2:12:11] parking spaces required for

[2:12:12] class B dwellings in UP8. This

[2:12:13] bylaws to permit duplex type

[2:12:14] dwellings in the zone.

[2:12:25] De façon générale, la

[2:12:26] tarification des biens et

[2:12:27] services et activités a été

[2:12:29] augmenté de 3,5%, la

[2:12:31] tarification pour le non

[2:12:32] résidentiel était bien en

[2:12:33] fonction d'un écart de 140% du

[2:12:35] tarif résidentiel. Les

[2:12:37] modifications apportées au

[2:12:38] projet de règlement depuis son

[2:12:39] dépôt le 5 septembre dernier

[2:12:40] sont les suivantes: modification

[2:12:42] du tarif pour la location d'un

[2:12:44] espaces de stationnement public

[2:12:45] de 5 à 10 dollars, modification

[2:12:47] du terme événements spéciaux

[2:12:48] pour événement nécessitant des

[2:12:50] ressources de la ville, ajouté

[2:12:51] une section portant sur les

[2:12:52] permis pour colporteur, ajouté

[2:12:54] une section portant sur les

[2:12:55] permis pour distribution de

[2:12:57] matériel publicitaire, ajoute de

[2:12:58] la ligne cinq virgule 7,3 pour

[2:13:01] les heures supplémentaires,

[2:13:02] ajoute de la ligne 5,7 virgule

[2:13:05] 5,9, préparation pour la régate,

[2:13:06] un quart de deux semaines.

[2:13:08] Retrait de la catégorie et dix à

[2:13:09] la ligne cinq virgule 8,5. Ajout

[2:13:11] de la ligne cinq virgule

[2:13:13] (---)

[2:13:14] comme Jeunesse de 11 à 14 ans,

[2:13:15] une fois par semaine. Ajoute des

[2:13:17] lignes 5,5

[2:13:18] (---)

[2:13:19] l'équipe de natation non

[2:13:21] compétitif résidents et six

[2:13:22] virgule 5,3 points virgule

[2:13:24] quatre,

[2:13:25] (---)

[2:13:26] pour les non-résidents.

[2:13:30] >> 5.10 Adoption without

[2:13:31] modification of a by-law

[2:13:32] decreeing a long-term borrowing

[2:13:33] and capital expenditures for

[2:13:34] works regarding parks, green

[2:13:35] spaces, shorelines, bike paths

[2:13:36] and sports fields for a total of

[2:13:37] $ 1,635,000. More specifically

[2:13:40] for the construction

[2:13:42] reconstruction of development

[2:13:43] and redevelopment and

[2:13:45] refurbishment's -- retaining

[2:13:46] walls, drinking fountains,

[2:13:47] street furniture, playground

[2:13:49] equipment, bike paths, fences,

[2:13:52] sports fields, relaxation areas,

[2:13:54] playgrounds as well as elaborate

[2:13:56] specifically assigned to these

[2:13:58] projects at various locations in

[2:14:00] the residential sector. The

[2:14:01] amount to be financed will be

[2:14:03] reimbursed by tax money on the

[2:14:05] entire municipality based on --

[2:14:08] over a 20-year period.

[2:14:10] >> For 5.8 to 5.10, do I have a

[2:14:13] mover? - Oui, Bruno Tremblay,

[2:14:16] district six.

[2:14:18] >> And a seconder?

[2:14:19] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:14:20] >> All in favour? - Merci! 5.11

[2:14:26] Adoption sans modification d'un

[2:14:27] règlement décrétant un emprunt à

[2:14:28] long terme et une dépense en

[2:14:29] immobilisations pour des travaux

[2:14:30] d'infrastructures municipales en

[2:14:31] divers endroits pour un montant

[2:14:32] de 2 555 000 $. Travaux de

[2:14:36] construction reconstruction,

[2:14:37] réflexions, réhabilitation de

[2:14:38] trottoirs, bordure, balle de

[2:14:40] béton services, service de type

[2:14:41] conduit au, frigo, Santerre

[2:14:44] pluviales, raccordement de

[2:14:45] services, Fondation de, rue

[2:14:46] pavage, sur éclairage routier,

[2:14:48] travailler travaux connexes à

[2:14:49] divers endroits ici que la

[2:14:50] main-d'oeuvre affectées

[2:14:51] spécifiquement à ces projets. Le

[2:14:52] montant financier sera

[2:14:53] remboursée par le biais d'une

[2:14:54] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

[2:14:55] municipalité sur la base de la

[2:14:56] valeur foncière. La valeur

[2:14:58] foncière des immeubles imposants

[2:15:00] les se sur une période de 20

[2:15:02] ans... 5.13 Adoption sans

[2:15:04] modification d'un règlement

[2:15:05] décrétant un emprunt à long

[2:15:06] terme et une dépense en

[2:15:07] immobilisations pour des travaux

[2:15:08] électriques à divers endroits

[2:15:09] pour un montant total de 4 855

[2:15:10] 000 $.

[2:15:11] >> 5.12 Adoption without

[2:15:12] modification of a by-law

[2:15:13] decreeing a long-term borrowing

[2:15:14] and capital expenditures for

[2:15:15] various works on municipal

[2:15:16] buildings for a total of $

[2:15:17] 3,690,000. Various works being

[2:15:18] roofing, foundation envelopes,

[2:15:19] doors, windows, masonry,

[2:15:20] balcony, staircases, handrails,

[2:15:21] paint, ceramic, floor coverings,

[2:15:23] supply and installation,

[2:15:24] replacement and upgrading

[2:15:26] mechanical, electrical HVAC,

[2:15:28] plumbing, fire protections, --

[2:15:30] refitting, relayed it works in

[2:15:31] connection with the asset

[2:15:32] management plan as well as

[2:15:34] labour specific -- idea how to

[2:15:36] be financed will be reimbursed

[2:15:38] by tax on the entire

[2:15:40] municipality based on the

[2:15:41] property value of tax over a

[2:15:43] 20-year period.

[2:15:55] Travaux de remplacement de

[2:15:57] réfection d'éclairage, de

[2:15:58] luminaires qu'offre la

[2:15:59] circulation mise aux noms qu'on

[2:16:00] du filage, système de contrôle,

[2:16:02] système UPS et divers travaux

[2:16:03] connexes ainsi que la

[2:16:05] main-d'oeuvre associait ces

[2:16:06] projets. Le montant financier

[2:16:07] sera remboursée par le biais

[2:16:08] d'une taxe imposée à l'ensemble

[2:16:09] de la municipalité. Sur la base

[2:16:11] de la valeur foncière des

[2:16:12] immeubles imposables est et ce

[2:16:13] sur une période de 20.

[2:16:16] Pour cinq points 11 à cinq

[2:16:17] ghetto...

[2:16:18] >> 5.14 Adoption without

[2:16:19] modification of a by-law

[2:16:20] decreeing a long-term borrowing

[2:16:21] and capital expenditures for

[2:16:22] professional services and major

[2:16:23] municipal infrastructure works

[2:16:24] in various locations for a total

[2:16:26] amount of $ 6,285,000.

[2:16:29] Professional services and

[2:16:30] construction, reconstruction,

[2:16:31] repair, rehabilitation of

[2:16:33] sidewalks, concrete slabs,

[2:16:34] malls, concrete structures,

[2:16:37] overpasses, services for water

[2:16:39] mains, sanitary sewer and storms

[2:16:41] who are. Street foundations,

[2:16:43] paving, road, lighting related

[2:16:44] works as well as labour

[2:16:46] specifically assigned to these

[2:16:47] projects and -- will be

[2:16:49] reimbursed by tax money on the

[2:16:50] entire municipality based on the

[2:16:52] property value of taxable --

[2:16:54] over a 20-year period. - Paul

[2:17:01] Bissonnette, district.

[2:17:05] >> All in favour? 6.1 Accorder

[2:17:08] des soutiens financiers à divers

[2:17:09] organismes sans but lucratif

[2:17:10] pour un montant total de 63 600

[2:17:11] $. La Ville accorde un soutien

[2:17:16] financier non financier à plus

[2:17:17] de 20 organismes offrant des

[2:17:19] services sur le territoire de la

[2:17:20] ville.

[2:17:24] >> 6.2 Request to the City of

[2:17:26] Montreal to maintain

[2:17:27] fluoridation of drinking water.

[2:17:29] So instead of reading what we

[2:17:31] prepared, I was requested to

[2:17:32] read the resolution itself.

[2:17:34] >> Yes, if you don't mind.

[2:17:35] >> No problem. As an agreement

[2:17:37] between the City of

[2:17:38] Pointe-Claire, the City of

[2:17:39] Montréal into December -- the

[2:17:41] transfer of activities related

[2:17:42] to the operation of the

[2:17:44] Pointe-Claire drinking water

[2:17:45] production plant. Whereas this

[2:17:47] agreement was signed since under

[2:17:49] article 16 and 19, paragraph,

[2:17:51] five of the -- municipal powers

[2:17:54] in service in -- a certain

[2:17:57] suburb -- and the jurisdiction

[2:17:58] of the agglomeration whereas the

[2:18:00] drinking water consumed by the

[2:18:02] population of Pointe-Claire is

[2:18:03] produced at the Pointe-Claire

[2:18:04] filtration plant. Whereas the

[2:18:05] drinking water produced by the

[2:18:06] Pointe-Claire and Dorval

[2:18:09] filtration plants have been

[2:18:10] fluoride for many decades.

[2:18:11] Whereas scientific studies on

[2:18:13] the public health benefits of

[2:18:15] fluoridation drinking water are

[2:18:16] widely recognized. Whereas the

[2:18:18] fluoridation of drinking water

[2:18:19] is a measure recommended by the

[2:18:22] -- because it contributes to the

[2:18:24] populations oral health and

[2:18:26] reduces social inequities in

[2:18:28] health. Whereas the City of

[2:18:30] Montréal plans without any prior

[2:18:32] public consultations to end

[2:18:33] water fluoridation by the end of

[2:18:35] 2024, this decision was taken

[2:18:38] unilaterally without consulting

[2:18:40] the effected reconstituted city,

[2:18:43] whereas the decision to stop

[2:18:45] flow writing of -- fluoride

[2:18:49] eating, drinking water without

[2:18:50] consulting citizens -- is an

[2:18:53] admission of democratic failure

[2:18:55] in the workings of municipal

[2:18:57] authorities and the lack of

[2:18:58] respect for the population.

[2:18:59] Whereas the City of

[2:19:00] Pointe-Claire has never

[2:19:01] expressed the desire to stop

[2:19:03] floor writing its drinking

[2:19:05] water. It will be moved and

[2:19:07] seconded to express import for

[2:19:10] maintaining fluoridation of

[2:19:11] drinking water, to ask the City

[2:19:12] of Montréal to review its

[2:19:13] decision to stop fluoride eating

[2:19:15] drinking water, to require the

[2:19:17] City of Montréal to hold a

[2:19:18] public consultation to allow

[2:19:20] considered citizens to express

[2:19:21] themselves and for this

[2:19:23] resolution to many people,

[2:19:25] Valérie Plante of -- executive

[2:19:29] committee of the City of

[2:19:30] Montréal, the cowboy,'s

[2:19:33] executive committee Montréal,

[2:19:34] Dr. Luc Boileau, -- Dr. midway,

[2:19:39] for the Montréal region,

[2:19:40] Cassandra, the minister of

[2:19:41] Health, Gregory Kelly, MNA for

[2:19:44] Jacques-Cartier, mayors of

[2:19:45] reconstituted cities.

[2:19:52] (---)

[2:19:53] Le vin descende de 1013

[2:19:54] concernant le transfert des

[2:19:55] activités liées à l'exploitation

[2:19:56] de l'usine de production de

[2:19:57] potable de Pointe-Claire,

[2:19:59] attendu que cette convention a

[2:20:00] été signée puisqu'en vertu des

[2:20:01] articles 16 et 19, cinquième...

[2:20:03] paragraphe 5 de la Loi sur

[2:20:05] l'exercice de certaines

[2:20:06] compétences municipales dans

[2:20:08] certaines agglomérations,

[2:20:10] l'alimentation en eau est en

[2:20:11] (---)

[2:20:12] Grosmaire action. L'eau potable

[2:20:13] consommée par l'application de

[2:20:15] Pointe-Claire est produite à

[2:20:16] l'usine de plus de rations de

[2:20:17] Pointe-Claire. Attendu que l'eau

[2:20:18] potable produite par les usines

[2:20:19] de filtration de Pointe-Claire

[2:20:20] et Dorval

[2:20:22] (inaudible)

[2:20:23] depuis de nombreuses décennies.

[2:20:24] Attendu que les études

[2:20:25] scientifiques sur les bienfaits

[2:20:26] de la fluoration de l'eau,

[2:20:28] potable sur la santé publique

[2:20:30] sur... soit largement reconnue.

[2:20:31] Attendu que le fluoration de

[2:20:32] l'eau potable est une mesure

[2:20:33] recommandée par la direction

[2:20:35] régionale de la santé publique.

[2:20:36] Elle contribue à la santé

[2:20:38] bucco-dentaire de la population

[2:20:39] et réduit les inégalités

[2:20:40] sociales en matière de santé.

[2:20:42] Rendu... attendu que la Ville de

[2:20:43] Montréal

[2:20:44] (---)

[2:20:45] préalable de mettre fin à la

[2:20:46] fluoration de l'eau d'ici la fin

[2:20:47] de l'année 2024. Cette décision

[2:20:48] a été pris sans consultation

[2:20:51] auprès des villes reconstituée

[2:20:52] concernés. Attendu que la

[2:20:53] décision de cesser la fluoration

[2:20:54] de l'eau potable sans

[2:20:56] consultation citoyenne, ni

[2:20:58] consultation auprès des élus de

[2:20:59] la Ville de Pointe-Claire est un

[2:21:00] constat d'échec démocratique du

[2:21:01] fonctionnement des instances

[2:21:03] municipales et un manque de

[2:21:04] respect envers la population.

[2:21:08] Attendu que la Ville de

[2:21:09] Pointe-Claire n'a jamais exprimé

[2:21:10] la volonté de cesser la

[2:21:11] fluoration de l'eau potable.

[2:21:13] Très résolu de demander à

[2:21:14] l'appel de Montréal de réviser

[2:21:15] sa décision... d'exprimer le

[2:21:17] soutien au maintien de la

[2:21:18] fluoration de l'eau potable, de

[2:21:20] demander à la Ville de Montréal

[2:21:21] va réviser sa décision de cesser

[2:21:22] la fluoration de l'eau potable.

[2:21:24] D'exiger à la Ville de Montréal

[2:21:25] de tenir une consultation

[2:21:26] publique afin de permettre aux

[2:21:27] citoyens concernés de

[2:21:29] s'exprimer. J'ai une copie de

[2:21:30] cette résolution soit acheminée

[2:21:31] à Valérie Plante, mairesse de

[2:21:32] Montréal.

[2:21:34] (inaudible)

[2:21:35] Responsable de l'eau au comité

[2:21:37] exécutif de la Ville de

[2:21:38] Montréal. Le grand point,

[2:21:39] président du comité exécutif,

[2:21:41] docteur Luc Boileau, directeur

[2:21:42] national de la santé publique,

[2:21:43] docteure Milner nos Rouyn,

[2:21:45] directrice régionale de la santé

[2:21:46] publique de la région de

[2:21:47] Montréal, Christian Dubé,

[2:21:48] ministre de la santé, Gregory

[2:21:50] Kenny, député de Jacques-Cartier

[2:21:52] maires et mairesses veulent

[2:21:53] reconstituer.

[2:21:55] - Merci madame Thibault et

[2:21:57] madame

[2:21:58] (inaudible)

[2:21:59] . I believe it is my about done

[2:22:00] of itch.

[2:22:02] Pour 6,1 à 6,2...

[2:22:07] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:22:09] >> And a seconder?

[2:22:11] >> --

[2:22:13] >> I would like to speak to 6.2.

[2:22:15] I have some problems with 6.2

[2:22:19] because it is not doing exactly

[2:22:21] what the mayor said we were

[2:22:23] going to do. And that is to ask

[2:22:25] for a cautionary pause from the

[2:22:27] City of Montréal while we

[2:22:29] investigate sanctions, making a

[2:22:30] statement that we are -- the

[2:22:32] City has come to a conclusion

[2:22:34] that ahead of the public

[2:22:36] consultations, our own public

[2:22:38] consultations, we should

[2:22:41] continue the fluoridation. A

[2:22:44] young man in my district went

[2:22:47] out the door to door and got

[2:22:49] 2000 signatures to support the

[2:22:52] notion of seizing fluoridation.

[2:22:55] I can't ignore that. I will talk

[2:22:57] about citizen participation,

[2:22:59] these are 2000 signatures -- not

[2:23:02] a click on the internet but he

[2:23:04] actually went door to door to

[2:23:08] ensure that his process was

[2:23:10] honest and up and up, I went out

[2:23:12] with him. I didn't go up to the

[2:23:14] door with him. I stayed on the

[2:23:16] street and watched him. I was

[2:23:18] really surprised at how many

[2:23:19] people he got yeses. From 2000

[2:23:23] yeses, he saw 2500 doors. From

[2:23:27] the sampling I saw, one night,

[2:23:29] two hours walking with him up

[2:23:31] and down the street, most people

[2:23:32] signed his petition. I have a

[2:23:36] great deal of difficulty that we

[2:23:39] ignore this petition. The City

[2:23:40] of Montréal did not ignore. The

[2:23:42] City of Montréal has been -- has

[2:23:45] told everybody for seven years

[2:23:48] now that they are going to shut

[2:23:49] down the fluoridation as soon as

[2:23:52] the equipment broke down. This

[2:23:54] petition that this young man

[2:23:56] organized from our citizens gave

[2:23:58] some legitimacy to the City of

[2:23:59] Montréal, perhaps jumping ahead

[2:24:01] of that schedule and shedding

[2:24:03] fluoridation down before they

[2:24:05] actually had a mechanical

[2:24:08] problem. They said they were

[2:24:09] going to do it. But I find that

[2:24:12] -- I will vote for it because

[2:24:13] I'm not gonna be the lone voice

[2:24:15] fighting on the Hill against all

[2:24:16] my colleagues. I just have some

[2:24:18] reservations about it. I

[2:24:22] question that we pass a

[2:24:23] resolution like this where we

[2:24:26] make no -- recognition about a

[2:24:28] petition that's out there. 2000

[2:24:29] signatures were submitted to the

[2:24:31] City, each Councillor got it.

[2:24:34] Plus the city. The names could

[2:24:36] all be verified and confirmed

[2:24:39] that they are valid citizens. I

[2:24:41] just wanted to say that. There

[2:24:43] is another side. And that I am

[2:24:47] not very content, let's put it

[2:24:49] that way, with the way this

[2:24:50] thing is going in. But not

[2:24:53] sufficiently to vote against all

[2:24:54] my colleagues. So I will support

[2:24:55] this resolution when it comes to

[2:24:57] a vote momentarily.

[2:24:59] >> Just to reiterate the

[2:25:00] position of the ASM and the way

[2:25:03] I responded to the young man

[2:25:06] that Councillor Cowan is

[2:25:07] referring to. We are not

[2:25:09] scientists. We are not making

[2:25:10] this decision. We leave this in

[2:25:12] the hand -- in the hands of

[2:25:14] science. And we have

[2:25:16] professionals who know what

[2:25:17] they're doing -- what they are

[2:25:18] doing and we are not pro or

[2:25:20] against. But we maintain the

[2:25:21] status quo and let's go with the

[2:25:22] science. That has always been

[2:25:24] the answer. So, those in favour?

[2:25:26] >> Mister Mayor, a comment.

[2:25:28] >> Go ahead.

[2:25:29] >> In reference to the comment

[2:25:31] from Mr. Cowan, I'm not offended

[2:25:33] at all if you were to vote

[2:25:34] against this. I'm looking at the

[2:25:38] resolution, from what is saying,

[2:25:39] I'm considering a resolution and

[2:25:41] probably will vote for it. But I

[2:25:45] wouldn't in any way feel that

[2:25:46] you would be voting against

[2:25:48] myself or other of our

[2:25:49] colleagues here based on your

[2:25:51] interpretation of the proposal

[2:25:55] that we are looking at. I just

[2:25:56] wanted to reassure you on that

[2:25:58] notion.

[2:25:59] >> Thank you. But I'm more

[2:26:00] concerned about the way Montréal

[2:26:01] will interpret this. Not my

[2:26:04] colleagues.

[2:26:06] >> Well, we're not alone. It's

[2:26:09] essentially all the West Island

[2:26:11] municipalities. Montréal will

[2:26:12] get a united front on this one.

[2:26:13] And we are just part of it. And

[2:26:15] that is the ASM's decision. And

[2:26:17] for the reason I just -- all

[2:26:19] those in favour? Against? Okay.

[2:26:29] 7.1 Déposer le procès-verbal de

[2:26:30] la réunion du 4 septembre 2024

[2:26:31] du Comité consultatif jeunesse.

[2:26:35] >> 7.2 File the minutes of the

[2:26:36] September 26, 2024, meeting of

[2:26:37] the Pointe-Claire Public Library

[2:26:38] Advisory Board.

[2:26:39] 7.3 Déposer et approuver le

[2:26:40] procès-verbal de la réunion du

[2:26:41] comité de circulation du 8

[2:26:42] octobre 2024. Excusez-moi, c'est

[2:26:44] écrit dans l'agenda déposé et

[2:26:45] approuvé. On devrait lire

[2:26:47] uniquement déposé. Déposer le

[2:26:49] procès-verbal de la réunion du

[2:26:50] comité de circulation du 8

[2:26:51] octobre 2024. >> In English,

[2:26:56] file and not approved. Just file

[2:26:57] the minutes of the meeting on

[2:26:59] October 8th, 2024.

[2:27:04] >> 7.4 Appoint a member to the

[2:27:06] Board of Directors of the

[2:27:07] Pointe-Claire Canoe Kayak Club

[2:27:08] Inc. Monsieur Jacques Christophe

[2:27:10] Poitiers... oh

[2:27:11] 10.1 Déposer la liste des

[2:27:12] amendements budgétaires et le

[2:27:13] registre des chèques pour la

[2:27:14] période du 23 septembre 2024 au

[2:27:15] 25 octobre 2024. Is appointed

[2:27:16] for a three-year mandate.

[2:27:17] >> 7.4, do I have a mover?

[2:27:18] >> Paul Bissonnette, district.

[2:27:19] To

[2:27:20] >> A seconder?

[2:27:21] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:27:22] >> All in favour?

[2:27:32] >> 10.2 File the comparative

[2:27:34] financial statement and

[2:27:35] projected statement. The

[2:27:36] comparative financial statements

[2:27:37] as of -- as well as the

[2:27:39] projected statements as of

[2:27:40] December 31st, 2024.

[2:27:42] 10.3 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:27:43] l'acquisition des licences pour

[2:27:44] les logiciels Abnormal Security,

[2:27:46] à ITI INC., Pour un montant

[2:27:47] total de 98 868,44 $, taxes

[2:27:50] incluses.

[2:27:59] Détecter... arrêtent l'ensemble

[2:28:01] des. Attaques

[2:28:02] (---)

[2:28:03] la boutonnage du dandinait, en

[2:28:04] compromission de la messages

[2:28:05] d'entreprises, fraude à la

[2:28:07] facture de fournisseur, etc....

[2:28:08] Pour 10,3 10,4... 11.1 Approuver

[2:28:09] le calendrier des séances

[2:28:10] ordinaires du conseil pour

[2:28:11] l'année 2025. >> 10.4 Award a

[2:28:12] contract for annual support and

[2:28:13] maintenance of Kronos equipment

[2:28:14] and software

[2:28:15] (IP240018)

[2:28:16] , to KRONOS CANADIAN SYSTEMS

[2:28:17] INC.

[2:28:18] (UKG)

[2:28:19] , For a total amount of $

[2:28:21] 50,703.49, taxes included. Gross

[2:28:24] is the software that manages

[2:28:26] working hours for all of city

[2:28:28] employees. Do I have a mover?

[2:28:33] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:28:35] district three.

[2:28:36] >> And a seconder?

[2:28:37] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[2:28:38] four.

[2:28:39] >> All in favour?

[2:28:46] >> For 11 point, when do I have

[2:28:47] a mover?

[2:28:48] Bruno Tremblay, district six. >>

[2:28:50] And a seconder?

[2:28:51] Claude Cousineau, district un.

[2:28:54] >> All in favour?

[2:28:59] >> 12.1 File the list of

[2:29:00] delegated staff changes for the

[2:29:01] month of November 2024. 12.2

[2:29:04] Approuver la liste des

[2:29:05] changements au personnel par

[2:29:06] décisions non déléguées au 5

[2:29:07] novembre 2024.

[2:29:11] >> For 12.2, do I have a mover?

[2:29:13] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:29:14] >> And he seconder?

[2:29:16] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:29:18] >> All in favour?

[2:29:25] >> 14.1 Exercise the renewal

[2:29:27] option provided for in the

[2:29:28] contract entered into with FOCUS

[2:29:29] BY TELUS COMMUNICATIONS INC.,

[2:29:30] For the years 2025 and 2026, in

[2:29:31] the amount of $ 143,703.68,

[2:29:34] taxes included for the purchase

[2:29:36] and the implementation of a

[2:29:39] telemetry

[2:29:40] (GPS)

[2:29:41] system for fleet management and

[2:29:42] for the acquisition and

[2:29:45] implantation of a fuel

[2:29:46] management system. 14.2 Se

[2:29:47] prévaloir de l'option de

[2:29:48] renouvellement prévue au contrat

[2:29:49] intervenu avec SIMO MANAGEMENT

[2:29:50] INC. Et AQUA DATA INC., Pour

[2:29:51] l'année 2025, au montant de 146

[2:29:52] 581,52 $, taxes incluses, pour

[2:29:53] le diagnostic du réseau

[2:29:54] d'aqueduc et la mise à jour du

[2:29:57] programme de rinçage

[2:29:58] unidirectionnel. Dans le but de

[2:30:03] planifie la mise à niveau et la

[2:30:05] gestion des composantes du

[2:30:06] réseau d'eau potable, les

[2:30:07] services des Travaux publics et

[2:30:09] (inaudible)

[2:30:10] mandate de films spécialisés

[2:30:12] pour effectuer le diagnostic du

[2:30:13] réseau d'aqueduc. L'inspection

[2:30:15] des poteaux d'incendie et

[2:30:17] d'exécution du programme de

[2:30:18] Reyes rinçage une directionnelle

[2:30:20] ainsi que la mise à jour des

[2:30:21] informations recueillies lors du

[2:30:22] diagnostic du réseau d'aqueduc

[2:30:24] dans la base de données.

[2:30:28] >> 14.3 Exercise the renewal

[2:30:29] option provided for in the

[2:30:30] contract entered into with KSG

[2:30:31] INC., For the year 2025, in the

[2:30:32] amount of $ 48 806,89, taxes

[2:30:36] included for fencing repair

[2:30:37] works on the territory of the

[2:30:39] City of Pointe-Claire the

[2:30:41] contract will re-cover the

[2:30:43] repair of various types of

[2:30:45] existing fences and the

[2:30:46] installation of new fences

[2:30:47] within the city. Pour 14,1

[2:30:49] 14,3... 14.4 Se prévaloir de

[2:30:51] l'option de renouvellement

[2:30:52] prévue au contrat intervenu avec

[2:30:53] TECH-MIX, UNE DIVISION DE BAUVAL

[2:30:54] INC. Do I have a mover?

[2:30:55] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.

[2:30:56] >> Seconder?

[2:30:57] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:30:58] >> All in favour?

[2:31:03] , Pour l'année 2025, au montant

[2:31:05] de 68 525,10 $, taxes incluses,

[2:31:08] pour la fourniture et la

[2:31:09] livraison sur demande de

[2:31:11] l'asphalte tiède à viscosité

[2:31:12] élevée incluant le polymère pour

[2:31:15] utilisation hivernale. Durant

[2:31:17] les périodes hivernales et

[2:31:18] lorsque l'asphalte chaude n'est

[2:31:19] pas disponible, l'asphalte tiède

[2:31:21] est utilisée dans les travaux de

[2:31:23] réparation des briques Atkins,

[2:31:24] ni des poules et d'entretien de

[2:31:26] la surface déchausser.

[2:31:30] >> 14.5 Exercise the renewal

[2:31:31] option provided for in the

[2:31:32] contract entered into with COLAS

[2:31:34] (formerly MELOCHE, DIVISION DE

[2:31:35] SINTRA)

[2:31:36] , for the year 2025, in the

[2:31:37] amount of $ 166,403.89, taxes

[2:31:42] included for the supply and the

[2:31:43] delivery of various types of

[2:31:44] stones. These types of stones

[2:31:47] are required for maintenance

[2:31:49] work on the cities

[2:31:50] infrastructures.

[2:31:51] 14.6 Se prévaloir de l'option de

[2:31:52] renouvellement prévue au contrat

[2:31:53] intervenu avec TERRASSEMENT

[2:31:54] TECHNIQue SYLVAIN LABRECQue INC.

[2:31:55] , Pour l'année 2025, au montant

[2:31:57] de 266 454,56 $, taxes incluses,

[2:31:58] pour les travaux de plantation

[2:32:00] et d'entretien d'arbres. Les

[2:32:05] travaux consistent à effectuer

[2:32:06] la plantation et l'entretien

[2:32:07] d'armes de calibre, 40, 50

[2:32:10] millimètres pour une quantité

[2:32:11] approximative de 650 arbres, le

[2:32:13] long des rues, dans les parcs et

[2:32:14] espaces verts et des boisés

[2:32:15] naturels. Ce contrat comprend

[2:32:17] une garantie ainsi que les

[2:32:19] travaux d'arrosage et

[2:32:20] d'entretien d'une durée de 200.

[2:32:25] >> 14.7 Exercise the renewal

[2:32:26] option provided for in the

[2:32:27] contract entered into with

[2:32:28] ROXBORO EXCAVATION INC., For the

[2:32:29] year 2025, in the amount of $

[2:32:33] 552,796.93, taxes included for

[2:32:37] the disposal of dry and

[2:32:38] excavated materials. The public

[2:32:39] works and buildings department

[2:32:40] is responsible for disposing of

[2:32:42] dry materials, excavated

[2:32:44] materials and residues from

[2:32:45] mechanical street sweeping

[2:32:46] within the city. Dry and

[2:32:48] excavate materials come from

[2:32:49] repairs to aqueducts -- and

[2:32:51] pavement maintenance. Pour 14,4

[2:32:55] à 14,7... 14.8 Octroyer un

[2:32:57] contrat pour la fourniture et la

[2:32:58] livraison de chlorure de sodium

[2:32:59] (sel traité de déglaçage des

[2:33:00] chaussées)

[2:33:01] pour 2024 à CARGILL SEL,

[2:33:02] SéCURITé ROUTIèRE, UNE DIVISION

[2:33:03] DE CARGILL LTéE pour un montant

[2:33:04] total de 1 127 950,74 $, taxes

[2:33:05] incluses. Do I have a mover?

[2:33:06] >> Sorry, Eric Stork, district

[2:33:07] seven.

[2:33:08] >> And a seconder?

[2:33:09] >> Tara Stainforth.

[2:33:10] >> All in favour?

[2:33:26] C'est contre-attaque trois et

[2:33:27] dans le cas de l'entente que la

[2:33:29] Ville de Pointe-Claire a conclu

[2:33:30] avec la Ville de Montréal et les

[2:33:31] autres villes liées. La

[2:33:33] Regroupement permet une économie

[2:33:34] en raison du volume

[2:33:35] (inaudible)

[2:33:36] et du fait d'éviter les

[2:33:37] procédures appel d'offres lancé

[2:33:38] par avec le point. >> 14.9

[2:33:42] Approve a change order to the

[2:33:43] contract entered into with

[2:33:44] BIO-CONTRÃ”LE ARBORICOLE INC.

[2:33:45] , For buckthorn eradication

[2:33:47] works in the Tony Proudfoot

[2:33:48] woodland, for an amount of $

[2:33:51] 11,328.72, taxes included. The

[2:33:54] changes required to allow the

[2:33:55] clearing of a specific area near

[2:33:57] the -- planting of the area for

[2:33:59] the year 2024. 14.10 Approuver

[2:34:01] une modification au contrat

[2:34:02] intervenu avec SERVICES D'ARBRES

[2:34:03] PRIMEAU INC. Pour des travaux

[2:34:04] d'arboriculture, pour un montant

[2:34:05] de 34 492,50 $, taxes incluses.

[2:34:09] La modification comptera est

[2:34:11] dans le but d'accélérer le

[2:34:13] calendrier d'élagage et

[2:34:15] l'abattage, afin de permettre de

[2:34:16] façon proactive d'atténuer les

[2:34:18] risques et de mieux préparer les

[2:34:19] arbres à résister aux événements

[2:34:21] extrêmes.

[2:34:23] Pour 14,8 à 14,10...

[2:34:26] Do I have a mover?

[2:34:27] >> Tariffs in fourth, district

[2:34:29] four.

[2:34:30] - Merci! >> A seconder?

[2:34:31] >> But in a timely, district

[2:34:33] six. All

[2:34:34] >> In favour?

[2:34:41] >> 15.1 Award a contract for the

[2:34:42] purchase of new office furniture

[2:34:43] for the Public Works Department,

[2:34:44] to OBURO

[2:34:46] (9497-3351 QUÃ‰BEC INC.)

[2:34:47] , for a total amount of $

[2:34:48] 460,442.66, taxes included. This

[2:34:51] contract is for the purchase of

[2:34:53] new office furniture for the

[2:34:55] public sport department --. 15.2

[2:35:02] Octroyer un contrat pour le

[2:35:03] service de déneigement,

[2:35:04] d'entretien et de réparation des

[2:35:05] toitures, à FERBLANTERIE LUCIEN

[2:35:08] ST-ONGE LTéE, pour un montant

[2:35:09] total de 97 098,46 $, taxes

[2:35:10] incluses.

[2:35:16] >> 15.3 Approve a change order

[2:35:18] to the contract entered into

[2:35:19] with CONSTRUCTION CPB INC., For

[2:35:20] the extension and renovation of

[2:35:23] Public Works, for an amount of $

[2:35:24] 70,918.57, taxes included. 34

[2:35:29] change orders concerning

[2:35:30] building mechanic, structural

[2:35:31] electricity and architecture.

[2:35:33] 15.4 Approuver une modification

[2:35:34] au contrat intervenu avec PRISME

[2:35:35] ARCHITECTURE, pour des services

[2:35:36] professionnels pour le

[2:35:38] réaménagement et

[2:35:39] l'agrandissement du bâtiment des

[2:35:40] travaux publics, pour un montant

[2:35:41] de 51 998,12 $, taxes incluses.

[2:35:45] La modification est avec le

[2:35:47] changement des règles sur la

[2:35:49] traçabilité des sols contaminés

[2:35:52] qui a été modifiée par le

[2:35:53] gouvernement du Québec après que

[2:35:55] le concept des travaux aient été

[2:35:57] finalisés.

[2:36:01] >> 15.5 Approve a change order

[2:36:02] to the contract entered into

[2:36:03] with GROUPE CIRTECH INC., For

[2:36:04] roofing works at Cedar and Ovide

[2:36:05] park chalets, for an amount of $

[2:36:07] 2 496.92, taxes included. The

[2:36:11] modification involves relocating

[2:36:12] the mass of the existing

[2:36:14] lamppost to completely

[2:36:16] waterproofing and the roof --.

[2:36:18] 15.6 Approuver une modification

[2:36:19] au contrat intervenu avec LES

[2:36:20] ENTREPRISES VERRECCHIA INC.,

[2:36:21] Pour la réfection des vestiaires

[2:36:22] de l'Aréna BobBirnie, pour un

[2:36:24] montant de 26 785,72 $, taxes

[2:36:25] incluses.

[2:36:31] Pas... pour faire le ménage des

[2:36:33] murs et l'enlèvement de

[2:36:34] peinturer cahier, tels que

[2:36:35] nécessaire pour la nouvelle

[2:36:37] peinture. Les changements

[2:36:39] d'ancrage des banques pour

[2:36:41] ancrage réussit avec 6 livres.

[2:36:47] Pour 15,1 qu'ils virgule... six

[2:36:48] 15,1, 15,3 à 15,4, je vais voter

[2:36:49] contre. Do I have a mover?

[2:36:50] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:36:52] >> And a seconder?

[2:36:53] >> Paul Bissonnette, district

[2:36:55] two.

[2:36:56] >> All in favour? Excuse me, Mr.

[2:36:59] Kusie.

[2:37:06] Encore une fois, les dépenses

[2:37:11] sur le building et des Travaux

[2:37:16] publics, déjà là, ils sont plus

[2:37:21] 1,1 million. Pour cette raison,

[2:37:23] je vote contre 15 virgule, un

[2:37:26] 15,3 15 virgule. Quatre

[2:37:27] - C'est bien noté!

[2:37:28] - C'est raté! If you want to

[2:37:31] finish the vote for the other

[2:37:32] councillors.

[2:37:33] >> Okay, all in favour?

[2:37:34] >> Thank you.

[2:37:43] >>

[2:37:44] 16.1 Approve a change order to

[2:37:45] the contract entered into with

[2:37:46] LE GROUPE LML LTÃ‰E, for

[2:37:47] lighting of the Reading Garden,

[2:37:48] for an amount of $ 2,523.55,

[2:37:49] taxes included. It's for the

[2:37:50] installation of a custom-made

[2:37:51] play to protect the pipe during

[2:37:53] the winter period. 16.2

[2:37:54] Approuver une modification au

[2:37:55] contrat intervenu avec LES

[2:37:56] ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC., Pour la

[2:37:58] construction d'un sentier

[2:37:59] polyvalent entre les avenues

[2:38:00] Alston et Stillview

[2:38:01] (piste cyclable Brigadoon)

[2:38:03] , pour un montant de 18 199,39

[2:38:04] $, taxes incluses.

[2:38:12] Trois arbres, tout ce qu'on dit

[2:38:13] à maître des températures suite

[2:38:15] à l'évaluation de leurs

[2:38:16] conditions par une ferme

[2:38:17] externe. En raison de leurs

[2:38:18] pauvres conditions structural et

[2:38:20] leur proximité au réseau

[2:38:22] d'Hydro-Québec, les arbres ont

[2:38:23] été abattus par une entreprise

[2:38:25] spécialisée.

[2:38:28] >> 16.3 Approve a change order

[2:38:29] to the contract entered into

[2:38:30] with TROICÃ‰ CONSTRUCTION INC.,

[2:38:33] For the construction of an

[2:38:34] accessible sanitary building at

[2:38:36] Tony-Proudfoot Park, for an

[2:38:39] amount of $ 2,568.35, taxes

[2:38:40] included. There are three

[2:38:42] changes to the contract. It is a

[2:38:45] supply and installation of a hot

[2:38:46] water tank. Supply installation

[2:38:48] of fireproof wood panels for the

[2:38:50] alarm systems in the mechanical.

[2:38:52] Room in the supply and

[2:38:53] installation of an accessory for

[2:38:54] filling water bottles --. Pour

[2:38:59] 16,1 16,3 Do I have a mover?

[2:39:02] >> Eric Stork, district. Seven

[2:39:04] >> And a seconder?

[2:39:05] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:39:07] district three.

[2:39:08] >> All in favour? Les personnes

[2:39:11] présentes peuvent s'adresser au

[2:39:12] Conseil concernant les 17,1

[2:39:16] 17,2. Deux dérogations mineures.

[2:39:20] Alors, poursuivons. 17.1

[2:39:24] Considérer une demande de

[2:39:25] dérogation mineure concernant la

[2:39:26] propriété située au 160, avenue

[2:39:27] Labrosse. Pour permettre 1 heure

[2:39:28] de stationnement situé en marge

[2:39:30] avant là où il n'est pas permis.

[2:39:32] Des, avec 31 cas de

[2:39:34] stationnement plutôt que le

[2:39:35] minimum requis de 134. Avec 0%

[2:39:38] dameuse... d'aménagement

[2:39:39] paysager pour que le minimum

[2:39:41] requis de 10% de cette

[2:39:44] superficie. Ne comprendra pas un

[2:39:45] (---)

[2:39:46] ou une bande séparatiste

[2:39:47] gazonnée d'une largeur minimale

[2:39:48] de 2 mètres tel que requis. Le

[2:39:50] comité consultatif d'urbanisme

[2:39:52] recommande au Conseil de refuser

[2:39:54] cette demande.

[2:39:56] - Pour 17,1,

[2:39:59] Merci! Do I have a mover? I move

[2:40:01] that the minor exemption request

[2:40:03] be refused. Brent Cowan,

[2:40:05] district eight.

[2:40:06] >> And a seconder?

[2:40:07] >> Tara Stainforth, district

[2:40:09] four.

[2:40:10] >> All in favour?

[2:40:16] >> 17.2 Consider a minor

[2:40:17] exemption request concerning the

[2:40:18] property situated at 123 De

[2:40:19] Newton Square Avenue.

[2:40:20] It is to permit a garage with an

[2:40:21] eastside setback of zero metres

[2:40:22] rather than the minimum required

[2:40:24] of one metre.

[2:40:27] >> For 17.2, do I have a mover?

[2:40:29] >> I move the minor exemption

[2:40:31] requests at 17.2 be approved.

[2:40:33] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[2:40:35] >> And seconder?

[2:40:36] >> There are Stainforth,

[2:40:38] district one.

[2:40:39] >> All in favour?

[2:41:09] >> 17.4 Consider the site

[2:41:10] planning and architectural

[2:41:11] integration programme plans with

[2:41:12] respect to the property situated

[2:41:13] at 163 De Dieppe Avenue. It is

[2:41:14] four new construction of a two

[2:41:16] storey detached single family

[2:41:17] home. 17.5 Considérer les plans

[2:41:18] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:41:20] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:41:21] propriété située au 136, avenue

[2:41:22] Duke-of-Kent. Pour un

[2:41:27] agrandissement du deuxième étage

[2:41:28] en ajoutant trois lucarne sur la

[2:41:29] façade avant une lucarne a

[2:41:30] pignon à l'arrière. Et une

[2:41:32] construction d'un nouveau toit

[2:41:33] de Porsche. Pour 17,3 à 17,5...

[2:41:39] Do I have a mover?

[2:41:40] >> Paul Bissonnette, district

[2:41:41] two.

[2:41:42] >> And seconder?

[2:41:43] >> Claude Cousineau, district

[2:41:45] one.

[2:41:46] >> All in favour? - Merci!

[2:41:50] It is a resolution respecting

[2:41:52] intellectual freedom in public

[2:41:54] libraries, in Québec and

[2:41:55] elsewhere, -- censorship, is

[2:41:56] friction or judgments can raise

[2:41:58] fears for the future and the

[2:41:59] fundamental mission of our

[2:42:00] cultural institutions. That's

[2:42:02] why the -- also known as a B PQ

[2:42:07] and the -- also known as BIA and

[2:42:11] Q, supported by the -- half

[2:42:13] repaired and propose this

[2:42:14] resolution to recognize the

[2:42:15] importance of our libraries

[2:42:16] essential role in respecting

[2:42:17] intellectual freedom.

[2:42:21] Oui 19,1, résolution visant à

[2:42:22] rétablir une approche claire

[2:42:23] pour envisager l'avenir des

[2:42:24] espaces verts privée par la

[2:42:25] participation du public un

[2:42:26] processus de consultation.

[2:42:27] >> For 18.1, do I have a mover?

[2:42:28] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

[2:42:29] >> And a seconder?

[2:42:30] >> Cynthia Highland, district

[2:42:31] five.

[2:42:32] >> All in favour?

[2:42:42] - Privées et publiques, je

[2:42:44] pense.

[2:42:45] - Non, c'est juste privée?

[2:42:46] - Privé.

[2:42:49] - Pour 19,1,

[2:42:52] And I have a mover?

[2:42:53] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:42:55] >> And seconder?

[2:42:58] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

[2:42:59] district three.

[2:43:01] >> All in favour?

[2:43:02] >> There is something I would

[2:43:03] like to address. First of all, I

[2:43:04] would like to congratulate Eric

[2:43:05] Stork on his work on putting

[2:43:06] through this resolution. I would

[2:43:09] also like to congratulate all of

[2:43:11] us to -- figuring out a way to

[2:43:13] make a resolution that we can

[2:43:14] all, I hope, support and pass.

[2:43:19] >> For 19.1 --. Excuse-moi

[2:43:23] Claude.

[2:43:27] - Votre micro, s'il vous plaît.

[2:43:29] - En caucus, on a discuté et

[2:43:32] puis il manque un point

[2:43:34] important là-dedans. Ça fait

[2:43:37] longtemps que je le dis. On ne

[2:43:39] sait même pas comment que les

[2:43:42] consultations vont être faites.

[2:43:44] Ça doit être réparé avant que

[2:43:48] j'approuve cette excellente

[2:43:50] résolution. Mais, on n'a pas un

[2:43:53] plan pour tenir des

[2:43:55] consultations publiques, alors

[2:43:58] je vais voter contre.

[2:44:00] - On va faire le vote

[2:44:02] (inaudible)

[2:44:03] .

[2:44:04] >> All in favour? All opposed?

[2:44:13] Closure? Do I have a mover?

[2:44:15] >> There are Stainforth,

[2:44:16] district four.

[2:44:17] >> And seconder?

[2:44:22] >> Brandon Allen, district

[2:44:23] eight.

[2:44:24] >> All in favour? Merci! Merci

[2:44:26] tout le. Monde

[2:44:28] Thank you, folks, for not

[2:44:30] watching the American election

[2:44:31] and exercising your democratic

[2:44:35] choice. Much better here.

2024-11-05 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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