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- ... Du 5 novembre 2024.
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Good evening, ladies and
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gentlemen. Welcome to the
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November 5th council
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meeting 2024.
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Nous sommes ravis de vous
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annoncer que le 23 octobre
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dernier, nous avons tenu une
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cérémonie officielle pour
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assermenter dix jeunes qui
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composent le comité consultatif
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jeunesse pour le mandat
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2024 à 2025. Ce comité
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consultatif a pour mission de
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formuler des recommandations
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et de donner une voix aux
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jeunes citoyennes et citoyens
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afin d'enrichir les activités et
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les services qui leur sont
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destinés. We are delight to
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introduce the ten young people
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who make up the Youth Advisory
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Board for the 2024-2025 term.
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For the second term,
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we have Albi Çullhaj,
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"André" Gariépy, Olivia
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Ginnetti, Anastasia Sabapathy...
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Alexandre Gariépy, merci.
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They're joined by the following
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new members: Dina El Azzouzi,
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Jason Chen, Michelle Ruoying Li,
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Olivia Rogers, Tianna Maughn
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et Chloe Guan. For the past six
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years, the city of Pointe-Claire
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has relied on the Youth Advisory
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Board to make permanent
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recommandations on behalf of
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young people in Pointe-Claire.
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It's a great asset for a city
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like Pointe-Claire to be
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surrounded by a dynamic group of
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young people who represent the
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voice of their generation to the
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municipal administration
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and elected officials.
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We wish them success in carrying
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out their mandate and thank them
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sincerely for their involvement.
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Encore une fois cette année, le
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nouveaux propos ont un automne
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bien remplie pour vous faire
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sortir et participer aux
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événements et activités pour
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profiter de l'automne. Nous
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venons de publier le nouveau
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calendrier d'activité automnale
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et hivernales des parcs,
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spécialement conçu pour les
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jeunes de 8 à 18 ans. Ces
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activités organisées les
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vendredi dès 18 heures à 21
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heures offrait l'espace
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sécuritaire et dynamique pour
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cette ouverture et socialiser.
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Cette saison, une variété
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d'activités proposé des sports
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les soirée cinéma, une sortie au
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qui est bien plus encore. Il y
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en a pour tous les goûts.
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Permettons à chacun et chacune
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de trouver l'activité qui lui
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convenait.
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Once again, we've got a busy
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fall in the store to get you out
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and about in participing in
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events and activities to make
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the most of November.
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We just annonced a new fall and
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winter parks program, specially
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designed for youth aged 8 to 18.
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These activities held every
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Friday from 6 to 9 PM provide
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a safe and engaging space
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for fun and socializing.
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Registration is done on site on
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the day of the activity. Youth
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are free to participate and
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enjoy the flexibility to come
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and go as they please.
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Expo-sciences. Les centres
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culturel accueille une nouvelle
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exposition des sciences, les
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neuf et 19 membres. Un nombre de
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domaines scientifiques selon
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(inaudible)
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tout au long de la fin de
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semaine. Dans la physique, la
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chimie, la biologie est bien
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d'autres. Jeunes et moins jeunes
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pourront vivre à des expériences
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qui trouveront des réponses à
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leurs questions dans un
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environnement créatif.
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In collaboration with Concordia
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University, Stewart Hall will be
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hosting the interactive science
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exhibition for children, parents
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and the general public
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to demystify science.
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A number of scientific fields
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will be reprensented all weekend
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including physics, chemistry,
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engineering, biology
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and many others.
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Kids and adults will find
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answers to their questions in a
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fun and creative environment.
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Le jour du Souvenir. C'est le 10
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novembre prochain qui nous
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inviterons les citoyens citoyens
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apprendre par dé jour du
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Souvenir dès 10 heures 30. Pour
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l'occasion, tout la communauté
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de Pointe-Claire étaient invités
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à porter le coquelicot, symbole
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associé à la mémoire de ceux qui
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sont morts à la guerre pour
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défendre la liberté et... la
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liberté dont nous profitons tous
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les jours. La cérémonie se
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déroulera à 10 heures 30, au
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centre cénotaphe, monument à la
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mémoire des soldats disparus à
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l'arrière de l'hôtel de ville.
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Les drapeaux seront mis en
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branle pour l'occasion. Et
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seront également pour le jour du
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Souvenir, le 11 novembre. We
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invite citizens to take part in
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the Remembrance Day
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commemoration ceremony on
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Sunday, November 10th starting
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at 10:30 a.m..
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For the occasion, entire
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Pointe-Claire community is to
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wear a poppy, a symbol associate
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with the memory of those who
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died in the war to defend the
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freedoms we still enjoy every
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day. The ceremony will take
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place at 10:30 a.m. at the
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cenotaph behind city hall. A
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monument built in the memory of
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fallen soldiers. Flags will be
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flown at half mast for the
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occasion. It will also be
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lowered for Remembrance Day on
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November 11th. Le train des
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fêtes passera à l'agora Valois,
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les ventres du 22 novembre
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prochain. C'est un rendez-vous
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n'est pas moi qui! C'est facile
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à manquer... le 30 novembre,
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venez nous rejoindre pour
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célébrer l'élimination de
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l'arbre de Noël dans le village
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de Pointe-Claire. It is in and
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out, but it's fun.
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Les festivités promettre d'être
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mémorable et sont ouvertes à
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tous les citoyennes et tous les
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citoyens petit écran.
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Holiday train will be passing on
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bylaw station on Friday,
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November 22nd to join us for the
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occasion. On November 30th,
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celebrate with us the lighting
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of the Christmas tree in the
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village of Pointe-Claire. The
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festivities promised to be
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memorable and are open to all
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citizens, young and old. Thank
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you. Merci à toutes et à tous!
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We do Councillors opening.
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Council reports, I will start
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with district A.
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>> I've been working very hard
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the last week distributing
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poppies properties, managing the
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poppy campaign. I see most
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people are wearing them so I
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think it's working. I cannot
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report so far we collected
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around $43,000 for the
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generosity of the people of
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Pointe-Claire. Thank you.
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>> Councillor?
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Rien de spécial Monsieur le
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Maire.
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>> Good evening. Bonsoir. Just
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an update on the project on
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Lakeshore, Lakeside and
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Lakeview. On Lakeview, by the
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end of November, paving will be
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finished. D'ici la fin novembre,
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il y aura le pavage permanent du
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Conseil des entrées.
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Et terrasse Armand, Savage de se
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chaussées...
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(---)
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. On Lakeshore between Lakeview
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the paving and the driveways how
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completed. Now one lakeshore to
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lakeside, la Ville de
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Montréal procédera au pavage
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temporaire de la chaussée.
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Et des entrées d'ici le 20
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décembre. So Up until December
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20th, between Lakeside on the
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lakeshore, there will be doing a
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temporary paving of the roadway
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and the driveways.
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The contractor has -- will be
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coming back in spring of 2025 to
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finish the sidewalks, some
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foundations and permanent paving
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between terrasse and lakeside.
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Il y a environ trois ou quatre
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semaines de fermeture complète
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du chemin bord du lac, sauf pour
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les autobus. During that time,
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spring of 25, the lakes will be
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closed for 3 to 4 weeks for
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buses has a finish the work
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there.
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According to the contract, the
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contractor has 590 days total to
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do the work and that takes them
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up to 11th of June, 2025 to
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finish everything. I know it has
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been difficult since
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administration has worked hard.
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Mr. Tanguay has worked very hard
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and trying to control the
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traffic a little bit. That is
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why the buses were really rooted
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in all kinds of things were
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done. It was a Montréal project,
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however, the people that are and
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trying to do what they can to
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try to make things better and
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easier. Le gouvernement de
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proximité... c'est presque fini.
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It has been a difficult project
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but nearing the end. Merci pour
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votre patience. C'est! Thanks
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for your patience.
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C'est tout, pardon. >>
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Councillor Homan?
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>> Good evening, I want to
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mention that this weekend on
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Sunday from 10 to 2 they'll be a
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food drive by the West Island
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mission. We did it last year. It
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is called porch to pantry. We
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are asking everyone to be very
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generous. If you can put out
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your donations in a bag on your
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porch and just mark indicate on
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it West Island Mission.
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Volunteers will go round and
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drive and pick it up. There is
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information on the City website.
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For those that can look on my
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Facebook page and a few of the
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other many of the places. It's
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really important. It's a big
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need. We have been doing so
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many. I mean the old-timers did
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their wonderful food drive. I
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say it's that time of year. I
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feel like this year has been a
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constant so please be generous
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and thank you very much.
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Conseiller Tremblay! >> I think?
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Councillor Stork?
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- Bonjour à tous. >> Just a
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couple of follow-up points for
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the north and east have been.
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The bane of our existence is
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summer, the construction work on
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one drop is basically almost
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completed.
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They will be paving tomorrow,
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weather permitting. It will be
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so it is over for the winter and
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it will be continued about six
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weeks late. La première couche,
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comme ils disent.
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I commend the City for doing
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everything they can in terms of
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the work they did. They were
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there every day, making sure
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they did not start early to the
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best of their ability. The
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second point is there is an
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important thing on the agenda
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today that I think maybe has not
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given enough light. It is the
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passing of the notion to motion
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and acceptance, basically, of
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accessory dwelling units.
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Basically it's a new bylaw that
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has been done right across
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pretty much the world now to add
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accessory dwelling units to our
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homes. Whether allowing you to
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extend your garage provided that
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it is certain. Obviously zoning
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bylaws to build a little shed in
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the back four in last weeks and
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things like that. It's a real
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great initiative to increase the
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housing stock, let people stay
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in their homes, that the
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relatives, their parents stay in
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their home by heading a dwelling
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over your garage or in the
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backyard so I think that's a big
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thing. It's disgusting but I
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think it is -- I commend
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Councillor administration for
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doing that because we are in a
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housing crisis there's a lot of
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homes that needed. Outside of
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that, I thank you, Mister Mayor.
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Je vais le dire en français. >>
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The adoption of the agenda. Do I
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have a mover?
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>> District three.
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>> And seconder?
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>> District four.
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>> All in favour?
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>> Mister Mayor, I would like to
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address is, basically I'd like
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to move an amendment to have a
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vote on the following resolution
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added to the agenda. This
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resolution has was published, it
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has been modified quite a bit.
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It is basically as I mentioned
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last month or last two weeks ago
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at the special meeting and I
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just wanted to say a small
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little thing here. Here we go,
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as was discussed in the last
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special meeting, I believe this
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entire Council is committed to
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public consultation and public
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respect. As we committed to the
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last meeting we looked at the
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resolution and we are able to
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maintain some of the key points
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of the mayors resolution and
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have compiled the concerns of
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the rest of the council.
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Therefore, I'm proposing the
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following resolution to be added
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to the agenda today. It has
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changed, it has been watered
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down, it has been modified, it
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has been thinned out and it was
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a good party discussion in
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caucus to get to where we got so
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I think this is a positive and
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hopefully this will pass
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tonight. If somebody seconded,
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I'm sure they will say ten
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English. C'est une résolution
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visant à rétablir une approche
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claire pour envisager l'avenir
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des espaces verts privée par la
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participation du public un
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processus de consultation.
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Attendu que... le public
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démontre un fort intérêt à
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préserver les quelques forêts,
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milieux humides et habitats
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naturels et substances du
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territoire de Pointe-Claire.
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Considérant que les
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circonstances ont changé à
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savoir... le projet de loi 39 a
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été adopté par la
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(inaudible)
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du Québec qui attribue certains
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pouvoirs aux municipalités pour
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pouvoir protéger les espaces
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verts, les milieux humides, les
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forêts et les habitants
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naturels. Le projet de loi 21
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concerne la révision des
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procédures d'expropriation
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ouverte aux municipalités tel
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que Pointe-Claire, également
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être adapté par l'Assemblée
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nationale de Québec. Le
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(inaudible)
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le deuxième projet a été publié
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écarte... clarifier les
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exigences de la clarté
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Métropolis de Montréal et de
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l'agglomération de Montréal à
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l'écart de Pointe-Claire.
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Notamment, en ce qui a trait les
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(inaudible)
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densification dans les zones
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théoriques. Et, oui le maire a
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dit guépard... il y a deux
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semaines qu'il propose sur des
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consultations publiques qu'ils
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aimeraient cette consultation
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publique. Par conséquent, les
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résolu que l'administration de
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la Ville obtient les
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renseignements nécessaires à
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savoir... les mesures permises
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par la loi 39 pour protéger la
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valeur écologique des espaces
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verts.
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- Les droits de procédure et les
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coûts en vertu du projet de loi
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22 en ce qui concerne des
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espaces verts privée. Les
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programmes... dernièrement, les
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programmes offerts par les
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niveaux supérieurs du
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gouvernement pour aider à
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l'acquisition sous la protection
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des espaces verts.
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L'administration ressemblerais
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et considérait des
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(inaudible)
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sous mentionnés dans un rapport
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initial pour concernés examiner
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le plus tard le ferry et 2025.
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Une fois révisée, le ballon
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d'action pour la
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(inaudible)
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du public sera annoncé de
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s'engager dans les processus
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consultatifs.
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En anglais.
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>> And seconder?
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>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
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district three.
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I would like to read the same
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resolution in English. We moved
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to propose resolution to
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reestablish a clear path forward
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for envisioning the future of
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green spaces through
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participation of the public in
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the consultation process with
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city planners. Whereas the
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public has a strong interest in
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preserving the-limited forest,
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wetlands and natural habitats
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that remain on the territory of
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Pointe-Claire. Whereas
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circumstances have now changed
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in that bill 39 has been adopted
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into law by the national of
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Québec, which has assigned
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certain powers to municipalities
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to protect green spaces,
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wetlands, fourth and natural
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habitats. Be Bill 22 considers
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the probation procedures that
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would open such as Pointe-Claire
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has also been adopted by the
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National simply a Pointe-Claire.
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C second draft has been
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released, which gives greater
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clarity regarding what the
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Montréal metropolitan community
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in the Montréal conglomeration
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will be required from
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Pointe-Claire specifically with
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respect intensification zones
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and points D, Mayor Thomas has
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indicated through his own recent
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proposed resolution on public
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consultations that he would like
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that public consultations.
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Therefore, be it resolved that
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the administration the sea of
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Pointe-Claire acquired the
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necessary information to it, a,
[18:01]
measure under be threatening to
[18:02]
protect the ecological value of
[18:04]
private green spaces. The, right
[18:06]
procedures and costs under built
[18:09]
Bill 22 that would pertain to
[18:10]
hybrid green spaces, C,
[18:12]
program's offered by high your
[18:14]
levels of government to assist
[18:15]
in the acquisition or protection
[18:17]
of green spaces. The
[18:19]
administration will gather and
[18:21]
consolidate the aforementioned
[18:23]
information into initial report
[18:24]
for Council to review no later
[18:25]
than February 1st, 2025. Once
[18:28]
reviewed, a public participation
[18:30]
action plan will be announced to
[18:31]
engage in the consultation
[18:34]
process.
[18:35]
>> Before we vote, would anybody
[18:37]
like to speak? Councillor
[18:40]
Cousineau?
[18:42]
>> I noticed that on the
[18:44]
document that we were handed
[18:47]
over in French, it says didn't
[18:50]
say the same thing in English in
[18:51]
the title.
[18:52]
Des espaces verts publics...
[18:54]
privés.
[19:04]
C'est supposé être les deux. >>
[19:05]
Private green spaces.
[19:07]
>> Thank you.
[19:09]
>> Thank you.
[19:12]
>> Councillor Cowan?
[19:14]
>> I think is a great initiative
[19:15]
to vote on this I hope my
[19:17]
colleagues on the council will
[19:18]
submit the change to the agenda
[19:19]
so we can vote on this
[19:22]
resolution.
[19:25]
>> Anybody else? I will just
[19:27]
speak to it quickly. We had an
[19:30]
interesting meeting before
[19:32]
tonight and I think possibly a
[19:35]
breakthrough meeting but it was
[19:37]
-- the city dramatically changed
[19:39]
document from what many of you
[19:40]
may have seen or heard about
[19:42]
before this meeting. It is
[19:44]
dramatically change and it shows
[19:45]
the willingness to adapt and
[19:47]
move forward and I think it's
[19:49]
positive. It's a positive thing.
[19:52]
My only concern in the current
[19:53]
wording and I have not had
[19:54]
enough time to a simulated, is
[19:56]
that I would like the 30% green
[19:58]
space emphasis to be installed
[20:01]
-- inserted into the document.
[20:04]
Maybe some more specifications
[20:05]
adds to what type of
[20:07]
consultation and what impact or
[20:08]
how that consultation will be
[20:10]
used. The information gleaned
[20:11]
will be used. Other than that, I
[20:13]
think it's a remarkable
[20:16]
occurrence and I'm neutral
[20:20]
positive. Moving forward, I
[20:21]
think that is a good thing.
[20:26]
>> The vote for the amendment.
[20:28]
>> All in favour of the
[20:32]
amendment added to the agenda?
[20:33]
>> Hold on.
[20:35]
>> Who is in favour for the
[20:37]
amendment to vote?
[20:38]
>> All in favour? How against?
[20:43]
>> Then we go back to the
[20:46]
adoption of the agenda with the
[20:50]
amendment.
[20:51]
>> For the adoption of the
[20:52]
agenda with the amendment, do I
[20:53]
have a mover?
[20:54]
>> It was moved.
[20:55]
>> It was previously moved and
[20:58]
seconded.
[20:59]
>> We just follow?
[21:00]
>> It is about.
[21:01]
>> All in favour?
[21:03]
>> Thank you.
[21:05]
>> Against?
[21:13]
Proclamer le mois de juin comme
[21:14]
étant le mois du patrimoine
[21:15]
philippin. >> You will be happy
[21:18]
to know that June will now be
[21:20]
the official month, proclaim the
[21:22]
month of June of Pointe-Claire's
[21:25]
Filipino heritage month and we
[21:26]
welcome the members of the
[21:28]
Association here tonight and I
[21:29]
believe they are speaking in
[21:31]
first in question period. It's
[21:32]
an honour to have you here and
[21:33]
we are thrilled to do this.
[21:44]
>> Sorry 3.1, to approve the
[21:46]
meeting of October 21st, 2024,
[21:48]
as well as a special meeting of
[21:49]
October 15th, 2024.
[21:52]
>> For the minutes for 3.1 to
[21:55]
approve the minutes of Special
[21:56]
meeting. To have a mover?
[22:01]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[22:02]
district three.
[22:03]
>> And seconder?
[22:07]
>> Tara Stainforth, district
[22:09]
four.
[22:10]
>> All in favour? Perhaps the
[22:14]
most important part of the
[22:15]
evening Ce soir, nous allons
[22:17]
rendre hommage à la mémoire de
[22:19]
monsieur Denis Francis Smith,
[22:22]
décédé le 18 septembre dernier,
[22:24]
à l'âge de 74 ans. Il a servi
[22:27]
les citoyens de la ville de
[22:29]
Pointe-Claire en tant que
[22:31]
conseiller municipal pendant 12
[22:33]
années. Ce soir, nous avons
[22:36]
invité son épouse, madame Karine
[22:39]
faisait Baxter sa famille, ses
[22:43]
amis ainsi que d'anciens maires
[22:44]
et conseillers qui l'ont côtoyé
[22:48]
durant ces montants. Il était
[22:52]
enseignant, assistant de
[22:53]
circonscription du député
[22:56]
(intervention en anglais)
[22:57]
est bénévole communautaire très
[22:58]
impliqués auprès de notre
[23:00]
communauté. Il a aussi été un
[23:03]
acteur très important dans la
[23:04]
lutte de Pointe-Claire pour la
[23:07]
diffusion. En tant que
[23:09]
conseiller municipal, il a
[23:12]
représenté le district sept,
[23:14]
North Viau, de 2005 à 2017. Il a
[23:18]
toujours servi ses électeurs
[23:19]
avec beaucoup de
[23:22]
professionnalisme. Nous lui
[23:23]
devons beaucoup. Nous offrons
[23:25]
tous nos collègues...
[23:27]
condoléances à sa famille et sa
[23:29]
famille. This evening we pay
[23:31]
tribute to the memory of Dennis
[23:32]
Francis Smith, who passed away
[23:33]
on September 18 at the age of
[23:34]
74.
[23:39]
He served the citizens of
[23:41]
Pointe-Claire as a municipal
[23:42]
councillor for 12 years. This
[23:44]
evening we have invited his
[23:48]
wife, Mrs. Karen Zey tax, remind
[23:51]
us we have former mayors and
[23:53]
councillors who worked with him
[23:54]
during his mandates. A teacher,
[23:57]
constituency assistant to MP
[23:58]
Clifford Lincoln, and longtime
[24:00]
community volunteer, he was one
[24:01]
of the leaders of
[24:02]
Pointe-Claire's fight for
[24:04]
demerger. He was representing
[24:07]
District 7, Northview, from 2005
[24:09]
to 2017, serving his
[24:10]
constituents with
[24:12]
professionalism. We owe him a
[24:13]
dept of gratitude. We offer our
[24:17]
sincere condolences to his son
[24:18]
Adam who is watching this
[24:20]
tribute online. And now I invite
[24:23]
Madam Zey Baxter to join me, to
[24:24]
receive a certificate of
[24:25]
recognition from the City of
[24:27]
Pointe-Claire. Pictures will be
[24:29]
taken with those present with
[24:31]
council members and special
[24:32]
guest. I guess we will be doing
[24:33]
this upfront.
[24:41]
[Applause]
[24:45]
(applaudissements)
[26:05]
[Applause]
[26:35]
[Applause]
[27:01]
Merci Monsieur le Maire et
[27:04]
membre du Conseil de nous avoir
[27:05]
invités ce soir. Thank you very
[27:07]
much, Mister Mayor and members
[27:08]
of Council or for inviting us in
[27:09]
this evening.
[27:12]
Ça fait au-dessus de 20 ans...
[27:13]
la deuxième fois que je l'ai vu,
[27:14]
c'est monsieur Mike Murphy qui
[27:15]
avait demandé à Denis et à
[27:16]
monsieur Rob garde un qui n'est
[27:17]
pas ce soir, de nous aider à
[27:18]
participer au conseil municipal
[27:19]
de Montréal. It's much
[27:20]
appreciated by myself and my ex
[27:21]
colleagues. They are still
[27:22]
colleagues. Mister Mayor, you
[27:23]
stole a few of my lines here
[27:24]
that I was going to say this
[27:25]
evening but I will say them
[27:27]
anyway. I have known Denis over
[27:33]
20 years I have known Denis
[27:34]
Smith. I believe the first time
[27:35]
that I saw him, he was going
[27:38]
into a local restaurant with
[27:41]
friends for breakfast. This is
[27:44]
maybe 22 years ago or something
[27:47]
to that effect. I spoke to him
[27:51]
and that is what the first time
[27:52]
I met him. Then
[28:14]
we were joining the Montréal
[28:17]
political scene back then and,
[28:20]
to be quite honest with you, we
[28:21]
did not know too much about it
[28:23]
and I don't think we know much
[28:24]
more today but anyway that is
[28:26]
another story. We had to raise
[28:33]
money for the political machine
[28:35]
in Montréal. Dennis was a big
[28:39]
part of that and he sort of
[28:40]
calmed us down. Okay, take it
[28:43]
easy, we will find a way and
[28:44]
there is always a way. The way
[28:47]
it worked out was that we found
[28:52]
-- had to raise I believe it was
[28:55]
$10,000. That is right, it was
[28:56]
$10,000. Dennis, after talking
[28:59]
with various people, came up
[29:01]
with a plan. Go and find ten of
[29:04]
your friends and asked them to
[29:05]
raise $100 from ten of their
[29:07]
friends and that is how we ended
[29:09]
up doing it. Dennis, as the
[29:14]
mayor said earlier, he worked
[29:16]
for Mr. Clifford Lincoln. Then
[29:21]
he hit the big time. He became a
[29:23]
Council in the City of
[29:26]
Pointe-Claire. And he did an
[29:29]
excellent job. In caucus, he had
[29:33]
so many ideas that we were all
[29:37]
in all of Dennis Smith. He never
[29:41]
went halfway. He always went 100
[29:45]
percent. When it was time for
[29:46]
the elections, I know he helped
[29:50]
me when I was running for mayor
[29:53]
and the things he put out on the
[29:56]
table, you should do this, you
[29:57]
should do this. He said you
[30:01]
should. He explained the right
[30:02]
way to do it. I probably did
[30:05]
most of them but not all of them
[30:09]
because I just did not have the
[30:12]
time but he never said, well you
[30:15]
should've done this, and you
[30:16]
should have done that. He was a
[30:18]
true professional, Dennis Smith.
[30:25]
When I say we, I am talking
[30:28]
about X Councillors of
[30:29]
Pointe-Claire. We would meet
[30:32]
with Dennis, myself and we were
[30:34]
about five or six. Used to have
[30:37]
breakfast once a week, someone
[30:41]
Pointe-Claire. I believe it was
[30:43]
Dennis who came up with the
[30:45]
name, we will call ourselves the
[30:49]
Romeo's. Why the Romeo's? Well I
[30:52]
will tell you why, he said, he
[30:55]
said retired Old municipal
[30:58]
elected officials. Romeo's.
[31:02]
That's not even today. We are
[31:03]
still called the Romeo's. To
[31:07]
finish, I would like to say that
[31:10]
Janice was on Council. He helped
[31:13]
provincial elections but he was
[31:16]
also on the board where he lives
[31:19]
in the condo. He volunteered in
[31:24]
Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue. I
[31:25]
believe it was Nova and he never
[31:28]
stopped. He never stopped.
[31:31]
Anyway, for me and my colleagues
[31:34]
and members of Council, Dennis
[31:37]
was a very special person and we
[31:39]
miss him. Thank you.
[31:43]
[Applause]
[31:57]
C'était excellent, merci
[31:58]
beaucoup! >> Thank you, Mayor
[31:59]
Trudeau. Période des. Question
[32:02]
period. Pour la période de
[32:04]
questions, vous avez été
[32:06]
accueilli à l'entrée pour vous
[32:08]
inscrire à la période de
[32:10]
questions, afin de vous
[32:11]
permettre de demeurer à vos
[32:13]
places jusqu'à l'appel de votre
[32:15]
nom.
[32:16]
(inaudible)
[32:17]
- Merci beaucoup. Absolutely.
[32:20]
Merci! Thank you. Yes, there is
[32:28]
something going on in the
[32:29]
States. There's a hockey game.
[32:31]
JP said there is a hockey game.
[32:32]
A man with perspective. I like
[32:34]
that. Vous avez été accueilli à
[32:37]
l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la
[32:38]
période de questions, afin de
[32:40]
vous permettre de demeurer à vos
[32:42]
places jusqu'à l'appel de votre
[32:45]
nom. Nous garderons 90 minutes
[32:47]
pour la période des questions.
[32:49]
Une personne à la fois au micro.
[32:51]
Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[32:53]
que les citoyens aient terminé
[32:55]
de poser sa question et que vous
[32:57]
soyez appelés avant de vous
[32:59]
lever pour venir poser votre
[33:02]
question. Deux, nous accordons
[33:03]
la priorité aux résidentes et
[33:05]
aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.
[33:09]
Les non-résidents pourront poser
[33:10]
leurs questions par la suite, si
[33:12]
le temps n'est pas écouler.
[33:15]
Question here you are greeted at
[33:16]
the entrance to register so you
[33:17]
can remain seated until your
[33:18]
name is called.
[33:20]
Société du patrimoine des
[33:21]
Philippines de Montréal. We
[33:22]
shall stick to the 90 minute
[33:23]
time limit for your question
[33:25]
period. One person at a time on
[33:27]
the microphone. Thank you for
[33:29]
waiting. Thank you for waiting
[33:31]
for a citizen to ask their
[33:32]
question and to be called before
[33:34]
to ask yours. We give priority
[33:36]
to the Pointe-Claire residents
[33:38]
and three non residents can ask
[33:40]
their questions afterwards if
[33:42]
time has not run out. To begin,
[33:44]
we will start with our
[33:48]
honourable Society of the month
[33:50]
of June you would like to
[33:54]
address? Vous voudrez parler
[33:56]
messieurs?
[33:59]
Okay.
[34:12]
>> Thank you. Can you hear me?
[34:14]
Thank you, Mayor Thomas. Thank
[34:17]
you everyone for the special
[34:19]
evening that you are giving us a
[34:21]
notice. My question is, it will
[34:24]
be coming soon. I have to read
[34:28]
first but I'm going to say.
[34:40]
I forgot my reading glasses.
[34:45]
There you go.
[34:54]
>> If I carried two pairs of
[34:57]
glasses --
[34:58]
>> I am terribly sorry about
[34:59]
that. Good evening, everyone.
[35:02]
Bonsoir tout le monde! My name
[35:07]
is Ramona, I'm a longtime
[35:09]
Pointe-Claire resident and chair
[35:11]
of the Filipino family services.
[35:14]
We provide social services to
[35:16]
the Filipino community in
[35:19]
Québec. We recently wrote the
[35:22]
municipality to support a
[35:24]
request that Council adopt a
[35:26]
motion to recognize June as a
[35:30]
Filipino heritage month. That
[35:33]
request was first made by the
[35:35]
Filipino heritage society and
[35:38]
united against hate Canada. As
[35:41]
part of the national effort to
[35:43]
promote the heritage month and
[35:45]
to promote the twinning of
[35:48]
cities in Canada with partners
[35:50]
in the Philippines. It is a
[35:54]
campaign that is great residents
[35:56]
with us and with Filipinos
[35:59]
everywhere in Canada. We think
[36:02]
Mayor Thomas and the members of
[36:03]
the Council for so rapidly
[36:06]
following up. Tonight's motions,
[36:09]
to recognize every June as
[36:13]
Filipino heritage month in
[36:17]
Pointe-Claire and we will be
[36:18]
appreciated by the growing
[36:21]
population of the Filipinos here
[36:22]
in our city. A number of other
[36:26]
local communities have adapted
[36:29]
similar motions of this. For
[36:33]
example, Côte Saint-Luc did last
[36:36]
week. Others are planning local
[36:39]
ceremonies next June. My
[36:41]
question this evening is, can
[36:45]
Council invite the Filipino
[36:47]
community in Pointe-Claire to a
[36:50]
flag raising ceremony or some
[36:52]
other ceremonies at City Hall
[36:55]
next June to mark the first
[36:58]
heritage month in Pointe-Claire?
[37:02]
Thank you, everyone, and good
[37:04]
evening.
[37:05]
>> Thank you, Ramona. I cannot
[37:08]
speak for Council but -- you
[37:13]
want to vote on it? Okay. All in
[37:18]
favour? Yes, that is it, raising
[37:20]
a flag or some kind of ceremony
[37:22]
recognizing. Can we say some
[37:24]
kind of ceremony, we can leave
[37:25]
it open recognizing that June is
[37:30]
month recognizing? Bringing up
[37:35]
to caucus? Okay, we will bring
[37:37]
it up to caucus. Thank you.
[37:43]
Philippe Paré!
[37:49]
Phillipe Pare.
[37:51]
>> Good evening. Regarding 6.2 I
[37:56]
was present with the question so
[37:58]
I know much opposition and being
[38:00]
the majority stakeholder so my
[38:02]
question is, what is the City of
[38:04]
Pointe-Claire and the
[38:05]
association of suburban
[38:07]
municipalities allowed to do
[38:09]
towards the City of Montréal to
[38:10]
be able to have your voices
[38:12]
properly heard and respected?
[38:14]
Are we speaking about a class
[38:15]
action lawsuit as the only
[38:18]
method to win your case?
[38:22]
>> That is a very good question.
[38:25]
Twitch I'm not sure the answer.
[38:27]
We have all -- we are all
[38:29]
passing resolutions and we are
[38:30]
all objecting, we are all
[38:32]
arguing for the status quo. The
[38:36]
decision has not been to take
[38:39]
aside for our against but to
[38:40]
maintain the status quo and to
[38:42]
lead the entire decision up to
[38:44]
the scientific experts. Beyond
[38:47]
that, I cannot say much more
[38:49]
than that. I cannot speak for
[38:50]
all the other mayors but there
[38:51]
has been the position adopted
[38:54]
that we object to the way it was
[38:55]
decided in how it was done and
[38:57]
we think the status quo
[38:59]
should've maintained.
[39:00]
>> Thank you.
[39:06]
>> John?
[39:08]
>> Good evening, everyone. I
[39:09]
will try to be brief. I'm doing
[39:11]
a follow-up. I was here back in
[39:13]
September 3rd. This has to do
[39:15]
with the water overflow from 99
[39:19]
seater onto my property, 93
[39:21]
seater. This goes back and I'm
[39:22]
going to be real quick to bring
[39:25]
everyone to give a context. This
[39:28]
has been going on for two years.
[39:30]
The summer, again, we had issues
[39:32]
on our property and it was more
[39:34]
over and above the huge rainfall
[39:36]
we had. I met, on August 12, Mr.
[39:44]
Tanguay, he referred me to the
[39:46]
urban team which I met in mid
[39:53]
September. In that meeting, they
[39:55]
shared with me that they are
[39:57]
still waiting for revised plans
[39:58]
from the owner of 99 Cedar. That
[40:02]
they were waiting to receive. In
[40:06]
that same meeting, I was asked
[40:07]
to provide photos and videos
[40:11]
because I have kept track of the
[40:12]
last two years of the damage
[40:13]
that has been created on my
[40:15]
property from the overflow, the
[40:17]
water flow from 99. On October
[40:21]
2nd, I provided the USB stick
[40:26]
with the additional information
[40:28]
that captured last year, 2023
[40:30]
and also 2024 that clearly
[40:34]
identified the issues. I
[40:37]
understand everyone is busy, the
[40:39]
week of the 20th of October I
[40:41]
sent up a follow-up email.
[40:45]
Madame did respond to me. We had
[40:46]
a call the following week where
[40:47]
she gave me an update in terms
[40:51]
of that they had received the
[40:53]
city has received some updated
[40:57]
plans. What was disappointing in
[40:59]
that conversation with I was
[41:00]
told for the first time from
[41:01]
October 2nd to October 29th,
[41:03]
when I spoke to her, that the
[41:05]
USB stick, they were never -- I
[41:09]
guess you're I teach apartment
[41:10]
was not able to open it, which
[41:12]
is pretty disappointing. It took
[41:13]
three days. It was not full-time
[41:15]
but it took me three days to put
[41:16]
all the information together.
[41:18]
Forget that, for a second. The
[41:22]
engineering teen never looked at
[41:23]
the photos and videos since they
[41:27]
could not open the USB stick. I
[41:29]
would love for someone to tell
[41:32]
me what needs to happen so you
[41:34]
can. The appropriate people, I
[41:35]
do not know if it's the
[41:38]
engineering team so they can
[41:39]
look at the photos and the
[41:43]
videos that have been shared. My
[41:47]
question is, at the end of the
[41:49]
day because I've been speaking
[41:50]
to a lot of people, at the end
[41:51]
of the day, who is responsible
[41:54]
and accountable that this work
[41:56]
gets done at 99 Cedar correctly
[41:59]
to avoid the water flow that
[42:01]
keeps coming on to my property?
[42:06]
And in the instance where it
[42:08]
does not work, what is the City
[42:11]
prepared to do to help out
[42:14]
because I have been told
[42:15]
everything is going to be okay
[42:16]
after the revised plan. I have
[42:18]
not seen a revised plan. Once it
[42:21]
gets done and something still
[42:23]
does not work, who is
[42:25]
accountable and responsible
[42:27]
department that is going to help
[42:28]
me out here.
[42:31]
>> That is a very good question.
[42:35]
Madame Verdon qui est
[42:36]
responsable...
[42:37]
>> I think your question has a
[42:38]
lot of answers. It would be
[42:40]
better because the personal file
[42:42]
that we discussed outside of the
[42:43]
public meeting so I can call you
[42:45]
tomorrow and explain all the
[42:47]
process. I will look with the
[42:52]
I.T. department if it's possible
[42:53]
to open up a file.
[42:55]
>> That would be great. Before I
[42:56]
handed it in I had that tested
[42:59]
with three other people and it
[43:01]
works. Now I understand
[43:02]
everybody has firewalls and
[43:05]
security thing so if I need to
[43:06]
do something, I really think
[43:07]
it's important that the
[43:08]
engineering team gets to see how
[43:11]
the water is flowing in the
[43:13]
video and also the pictures that
[43:15]
I sent.
[43:19]
>> Go ahead.
[43:21]
>> I'm finished. I am available
[43:24]
tomorrow or Thursday if that is
[43:27]
better but we can send an email
[43:28]
or we can talk.
[43:30]
>> No problem. I will send an
[43:31]
email tomorrow and have a
[43:33]
discussion on Thursday or Friday
[43:34]
but we will find a time this
[43:35]
week.
[43:36]
>> Thank you.
[43:43]
>> One question was not
[43:47]
responded.
[43:51]
[Inaudible]
[43:52]
>> When needs to be done for
[43:55]
the? Could you go to the
[43:57]
microphone, sir.
[44:05]
>> I was wondering because you
[44:07]
did not answer the question,
[44:08]
what needs exactly to be done
[44:10]
from your side in order to be
[44:12]
able to read the USB file. I am
[44:15]
just curious.
[44:17]
>> I would think, I'm going out
[44:18]
on a limb, our I.T. department
[44:20]
has to figure out and if it does
[44:21]
not work and get back which I'm
[44:25]
sorry has not happened sooner.
[44:27]
Thank you for your question.
[44:28]
Your follow-up. David Hunter?
[44:37]
>> I'm a former resident of
[44:40]
Pointe-Claire. I grew up here
[44:42]
many years from the late 50s.
[44:44]
Anyways, my question that I had
[44:46]
concern the process of Bill 39
[44:50]
--
[44:51]
>> I am sorry, sir, are you a
[44:52]
resident of Pointe-Claire?
[44:54]
>> Not anymore. Do
[44:55]
>> You live in Pointe-Claire?
[44:57]
>> No.
[44:58]
>> I'm sorry, you will have to
[44:59]
wait after we hear the other
[45:02]
person on the list.
[45:04]
>> You call me. Here I am.
[45:07]
>> We did not know.
[45:09]
>> Carry on with your business.
[45:11]
You answer my question anyway
[45:13]
with respect to the amendment.
[45:17]
>> Mr. Hunter, we will get
[45:20]
through them. We look at to you.
[45:22]
I promise.
[45:23]
>> I haven't got the time. The
[45:27]
American election is far more
[45:29]
important.
[45:36]
>> Chris Île?
[45:39]
>> I'm not going to be exciting
[45:41]
as him. Good evening. We are a
[45:50]
lot of residents who live in
[45:51]
close proximity to the two
[45:53]
roundabouts on Chester and we
[45:55]
crossed him every day in
[45:57]
vehicles, on foot, our kids on
[45:59]
their bikes, so on and so forth.
[46:06]
There was no construction done
[46:07]
to change the, Z Jeffrey moved a
[46:09]
stop sign and put yield signs
[46:10]
but nothing really changed.
[46:13]
There are multiple blind
[46:15]
corners, hedges, homes, there's
[46:17]
also homes that face into the
[46:19]
roundabout where people come in
[46:20]
and out of their driveways. You
[46:22]
would like either to has taught
[46:23]
signs reinstalled or have other
[46:25]
safety measures met, typical
[46:27]
roundabouts force people to slow
[46:29]
down as they enter the
[46:30]
roundabout. These roundabouts
[46:31]
are just square, they are square
[46:34]
roundabouts which is stupid in
[46:36]
and of itself but we would
[46:38]
either like stop signs to be
[46:40]
reinstalled or other safety
[46:41]
measures to be taken because
[46:43]
especially with the influx of
[46:44]
people from Kubik, there are a
[46:47]
couple hundred more cars coming
[46:48]
through the neighbourhood, plus
[46:49]
all the construction on des
[46:54]
sources roundabout, et cetera,
[46:56]
et cetera. What can we do to
[46:58]
install and make it much safer
[46:59]
for the residents?
[47:00]
>> That is a good question. They
[47:02]
are borderline roundabouts, you
[47:04]
would call them?
[47:05]
>> They were square four way
[47:06]
stop for 100 years and then they
[47:09]
may yield signs but nobody
[47:10]
yields. People just come into
[47:11]
the roundabout full speed and at
[47:13]
a typical roundabout, it curves
[47:15]
when you come into it and join
[47:16]
the flow of traffic. Please do
[47:18]
not. People especially coming
[47:19]
north and south come at a full
[47:21]
clip and also their homes and
[47:24]
hedges that blind corners coming
[47:26]
in. Sometimes you come into the
[47:29]
roundabout or the person coming
[47:30]
into the roundabout should yield
[47:32]
if there is already a car. That
[47:33]
does not happen. Cars in the
[47:35]
roundabout stop, and then there
[47:36]
is some sort of confusion or you
[47:38]
are driving through the
[47:39]
roundabout. Somebody comes into
[47:41]
a blind corner, very dangerous
[47:43]
and again there's lots of people
[47:45]
just coming through the
[47:46]
neighbourhood now from the
[47:47]
developments that have gone up.
[47:49]
It is a very dangerous
[47:50]
situation. Some of the
[47:52]
crosswalks or even blind so
[47:53]
people crossing on bicycle with
[47:55]
dog, so on and so forth so it's
[47:57]
definitely something that needs
[47:58]
to be looked at. We have many --
[48:01]
I know many individuals that
[48:02]
live at both roundabouts. It's
[48:04]
definitely a -- if you sit there
[48:06]
for 20 minutes, you are going to
[48:07]
see a bunch of close calls.
[48:09]
Either a police presence. I
[48:11]
think the stuff signs are the
[48:13]
easiest measure because, quite
[48:14]
frankly, to break all the cement
[48:16]
and reconfigure everything would
[48:18]
be a huge expense. I think the
[48:21]
question really is what can we
[48:22]
do to make them safer? Stop
[48:25]
signs being the easiest fix but
[48:26]
anything at this point.
[48:28]
>> You are lucky because our
[48:30]
traffic guru is standing right
[48:32]
in front of you or our code
[48:34]
traffic guru, mister Tanguay and
[48:38]
he and I are taking note of
[48:40]
this. Absolutely we will look
[48:42]
into it. The roundabout in
[48:47]
Pointe-Claire has been an issue
[48:49]
as a little one on top of
[48:51]
Drayton. The integration of the
[48:53]
roundabout has been intriguing
[48:55]
and people favourite but whether
[48:57]
we are used to them or adjusted
[48:59]
or have learned how to use them
[49:00]
as a society, as a city, is a
[49:04]
good point. How we get beyond
[49:07]
that is another issue. The stop
[49:09]
signs -- there are laws as to
[49:11]
where we can put stop signs and
[49:13]
as I've learned in the last
[49:14]
traffic Committee meeting we
[49:15]
cannot just put out stop signs.
[49:18]
There are actually rules. In the
[49:19]
old days, we could put them up
[49:20]
where we thought -- we cannot
[49:23]
put them in front of my cats
[49:24]
anymore. There has to be an
[49:26]
intersection of roads.
[49:27]
>> There is.
[49:28]
>> All these rules for stop
[49:29]
signs. If those rules do not
[49:31]
prohibited, it can be looked
[49:32]
into.
[49:33]
>> Just from a cost analysis
[49:35]
perspective because turning them
[49:37]
into round about would be a huge
[49:39]
undertaking and expense. If you
[49:41]
go on Google maps, you can go
[49:43]
back to 2011 and see where the
[49:44]
start signs where and you go to
[49:46]
2012 and it's just a yield sign
[49:48]
with nothing off.
[49:49]
>> The road has not changed?
[49:50]
>> No. Should I follow up with
[49:54]
you too.
[49:55]
>> Sure. Duly noted. He is the
[50:00]
man. It's an excellent
[50:02]
committee. You have been heard.
[50:04]
I promise. Thank you.
[50:06]
>> Thank you.
[50:11]
>> Can Lyon.
[50:16]
>> Good evening. Back in May,
[50:20]
council passed -- I do not know
[50:23]
if it was a motion or whatever
[50:25]
-- for the aquatic centre to
[50:27]
have the -- to change rooms
[50:32]
fixed up and a sauna fix. When
[50:34]
the is going to happen? Nothing,
[50:36]
nothing has been done.
[50:39]
>> That has been the bane of my
[50:41]
existence. We cannot fix it
[50:43]
until we do the overall
[50:45]
construction project. It is
[50:47]
lumped in. We cannot fix it and
[50:49]
undo it again to renovate the
[50:51]
rooms. It has to all be done in
[50:52]
one shot. The timing of that is
[50:54]
a good question. I think someone
[50:59]
knows the answer.
[51:04]
>> Unfortunately, for now, the
[51:06]
project of the aquatic centre is
[51:09]
not for next year so we will
[51:11]
have to wait until we do not
[51:13]
know yet, another date, but we
[51:17]
adopt the CIP in October, and
[51:21]
unfortunately for the budget, it
[51:23]
would be tied to push back the
[51:25]
project.
[51:26]
>> Let me repeat that so I did
[51:27]
not fully understand. You looks
[51:29]
like you will have your plans
[51:30]
ready now October, then sometime
[51:33]
next year, the work will start.
[51:36]
>> No, the plan -- with the
[51:41]
adoption of the next CIP, we
[51:43]
call the investment plan for the
[51:45]
city for the next year, they
[51:48]
will decide to push that project
[51:50]
later on maybe in 2026.
[51:52]
>> 2026?
[51:54]
>> It will not be done in 2025,
[51:57]
unfortunately.
[51:58]
>> It has been down since before
[52:01]
COVID or since COVID. That is
[52:06]
terrible. A very simple
[52:09]
question, the second one is
[52:10]
that, who is responsible for the
[52:12]
rams going on to the highways? I
[52:14]
am thinking in particular the
[52:17]
ramp going west on 20 when you
[52:19]
are coming down
[52:26]
Saint Jean, another ridge going
[52:27]
south on 20 was. There are
[52:29]
potholes pretty wicked in spots
[52:31]
and I do not know if it's a city
[52:32]
or the Ministry of
[52:36]
Transportation.
[52:38]
>> It depends where the
[52:42]
potholes. Some of them are from
[52:44]
the City.
[52:45]
>> It's on the ramp itself. It's
[52:47]
not on the highway, it's on the
[52:49]
ramp. As you come off the Saint
[52:54]
Jean, you go down, there's one
[52:56]
before the curve and then as you
[52:58]
get to the second curve that
[53:00]
whips out towards the highway,
[53:02]
there is some on the edge which
[53:04]
are quite substantial.
[53:06]
>> I will look at it and let you
[53:08]
know.
[53:09]
>> Thank you.
[53:10]
>> One of them has been
[53:11]
repaired. The really bad one. I
[53:13]
take that every day. One of them
[53:15]
has been repaired, I do not know
[53:16]
if that is when you are talking
[53:17]
about.
[53:18]
>> I noticed it this morning.
[53:20]
>> Got you.
[53:21]
>> When you noticed is still
[53:22]
there.
[53:28]
Susan Weaver.
[53:37]
>> Here is some information
[53:39]
about the accident that you had
[53:42]
had with the City lease car last
[53:45]
April when you hit a deer up
[53:47]
north. La date de la perte...
[53:52]
d'un rapport... People six.
[53:56]
April 7th. Total damaged, 38,000
[53:59]
and someone sent and deductible
[54:01]
5000. The vehicle was located
[54:07]
I'm curious as to why the
[54:09]
accident was only reported the
[54:10]
following day. As you said at
[54:12]
the last council meeting, the
[54:14]
car was insured but still one
[54:16]
must pay deductible. The City
[54:18]
has to pay the deductible 5000
[54:22]
unless you are planning to take
[54:23]
the responsibility for it. There
[54:26]
are some added penalties but I
[54:27]
must take the time to read the
[54:29]
contract again, which you
[54:31]
signed. Two things that you said
[54:32]
at the October council meeting,
[54:34]
which I found interesting.
[54:36]
Number one, that you did not
[54:38]
want a car when taken into
[54:40]
office. Myself, I could not
[54:41]
really understand why it was
[54:43]
necessary to give the mayor a
[54:45]
car during their mandates but
[54:46]
you are the mayor, you could've
[54:49]
refused and asked for a
[54:50]
resolution to be passed to not
[54:52]
continue the practice. Number
[54:54]
two, no stipulations as to how
[54:56]
the City car was to be used. You
[54:59]
did not know whether you can
[55:00]
pick up groceries with the car.
[55:02]
Passing by the metro, in the
[55:05]
plaza to pick up groceries on
[55:06]
the home is reasonable but going
[55:08]
up to St. had polite for
[55:10]
groceries is not. If there was
[55:11]
no stipulations when you receive
[55:13]
the car as you said the last
[55:15]
council meeting and then you
[55:17]
concluded by saying it is as
[55:19]
simple as that, I had a car, I
[55:21]
no longer have a car. I had a
[55:23]
city credit card, I no longer
[55:25]
have one and I follow the rules.
[55:27]
What were all the rules that you
[55:29]
followed?
[55:30]
>> There were not any. Is that
[55:32]
your question? The following day
[55:34]
I have no idea why that was
[55:36]
reported the following day. It
[55:39]
was in the morning. I should've
[55:41]
been the following day. It
[55:44]
happened 8:00 a.m. in the
[55:47]
morning. 44 minutes from
[55:56]
Pointe-Claire was where the
[55:57]
accident happened. I did not --
[56:01]
I was told I insisted on having
[56:04]
a car. I had a good car. This is
[56:09]
a park that comes with being the
[56:10]
mayor of Pointe-Claire and you
[56:11]
have to have a car. I took the
[56:14]
car. I asked if I could return
[56:17]
it and not have a car. If
[56:20]
there's any removed ration that
[56:22]
I can get but I was told I would
[56:24]
have to have the car. There were
[56:26]
no rules, no specifications, no
[56:28]
rules whatsoever as to how to
[56:30]
use the car. And never signed
[56:31]
any contract. I was just given a
[56:33]
car in that is the way it
[56:37]
occurred.
[56:38]
>> You did not sign a contract?
[56:39]
>> No, I did not. No.
[56:43]
>> Your name was on it.
[56:45]
>> No.
[56:46]
>> My second question was, who
[56:48]
did you notify when you hit the
[56:50]
deer?
[56:51]
>> I did not notify anybody.
[56:54]
They got on it quickly. The
[56:57]
transport, the people that drive
[56:58]
the roads called the police.
[57:01]
Somebody from Québec, the Québec
[57:02]
government, provincial
[57:03]
government was on the road, saw
[57:05]
me and came over or might have
[57:08]
seen the accident and then
[57:09]
called the police and the police
[57:12]
came and they were great. They
[57:13]
were with me for probably 5 to
[57:16]
10 minutes and a tow truck was
[57:18]
there five minutes later and
[57:20]
then I called my son to pick me
[57:23]
up and they were checking to
[57:24]
make sure I was not in any too
[57:25]
much shop because I wasn't a bit
[57:27]
of shop.
[57:28]
>> I imagine so.
[57:29]
>> I did survive. I was kind of
[57:32]
pleased about that. Adding that,
[57:34]
I cannot tell you much more.
[57:55]
>> Hi. The residual presented by
[58:02]
Eric Stork this evening, the
[58:03]
City Council needs to know of
[58:04]
the provincial legislation. He
[58:06]
would have a big impact on our
[58:08]
City. It is my understanding
[58:09]
that steps have already been
[58:10]
taken. I think our lawyer is
[58:13]
going to have gone to some
[58:16]
information meetings and so
[58:17]
forth to inform City Council
[58:19]
about the new legislation it
[58:20]
would be quite shocking to find
[58:22]
out that this was not already in
[58:24]
progress. Otherwise, as well,
[58:28]
this legislation essentially
[58:30]
says that when green space lots
[58:32]
are re-zoned as green space, the
[58:35]
developer cannot claim for lost
[58:36]
future profits. Excuse me, I got
[58:39]
a bit of a cold. Only for what
[58:41]
they paid for the land. Cadillac
[58:43]
Fairview recently sold off a
[58:45]
step of the fourth of the REM to
[58:47]
allow the expansion of Fairview
[58:49]
Avenue, with the City should be
[58:50]
doing is immediately zoning all
[58:52]
of the force including this
[58:53]
strip as green space. Let the
[58:56]
Ram expropriate part of the
[58:57]
parking lot for the road
[58:58]
expansion instead of the forests
[59:02]
parts of the strip. As to paying
[59:04]
for market value, study for the
[59:08]
MU2 first, rezone it. Right now
[59:11]
it's value is greatly inflated
[59:12]
bites no rose owning. Right now,
[59:17]
both MU1 and MU2, have no zones.
[59:20]
No height restrictions, not a
[59:21]
lot coverage, no restrictions of
[59:23]
types of commercials are special
[59:25]
product, not even minimum
[59:26]
setbacks. This is what Cadillac
[59:28]
Fairview is fighting for the
[59:30]
hold on to. Pointe-Claire now
[59:32]
has an opportunity to maintain
[59:34]
the freeze, as citizens what
[59:35]
they want on both MU1 and MU2
[59:38]
and rezoned them according to
[59:40]
what we want, not the zones but
[59:42]
virtually no rules as exist
[59:45]
today.
[59:53]
After resolution 2023 040, and
[59:58]
our city manager tried to reach
[59:59]
out with negotiations with
[1:00:00]
Cadillac Fairview refused
[1:00:03]
outright. Luckily for us, now we
[1:00:04]
can make some zoning rules with
[1:00:05]
teeth and negotiate holding on
[1:00:07]
to at least a few winning cards
[1:00:09]
instead of the empty hands we
[1:00:10]
have now. Like to know that the
[1:00:14]
City would start the process of
[1:00:17]
the zoning. Including the space
[1:00:21]
by the REM. And re-table you're
[1:00:26]
resolution to allow citizen
[1:00:27]
consultation sessions about both
[1:00:29]
Fairview forest and the maximum
[1:00:31]
height of buildings on MU1. This
[1:00:33]
is because the resolution passed
[1:00:36]
by Eric Stork puts citizen
[1:00:41]
consultations not to formulate
[1:00:42]
our planning program but some
[1:00:44]
sort of nebulous idea to next
[1:00:48]
February. We need them soon and
[1:00:50]
before the Planning Program is
[1:00:52]
actually formalized and paid. I
[1:00:59]
think we need citizen
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consultations but most
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importantly why don't we just
[1:01:04]
zone the forest green. We can do
[1:01:07]
it. It's within power of the
[1:01:09]
City to do it and then we would
[1:01:10]
have somebody to negotiate from
[1:01:14]
as well. We have got to get the
[1:01:18]
MU1 with some zoning
[1:01:19]
regulations. It is incredible to
[1:01:21]
me that this huge piece in our
[1:01:24]
city has just virtually no
[1:01:26]
zoning regulations. I mean, it's
[1:01:29]
a free-for-all. How did this
[1:01:31]
happen? It's amazing. I would
[1:01:34]
like to know, would you try to
[1:01:36]
start the process soon to zone
[1:01:39]
the land green or we can go
[1:01:41]
against a resolution tonight as
[1:01:42]
well?
[1:01:43]
>> We can start that tonight
[1:01:46]
actually because the resolution
[1:01:47]
has changed dramatically. You
[1:01:53]
are probably referring to you
[1:01:54]
may have seen a different
[1:01:56]
version of it.
[1:01:57]
>> Yes, but it does not include
[1:01:59]
immediately rezoning the line
[1:02:01]
green. All this process of
[1:02:03]
finding information about
[1:02:04]
funding and about prices and
[1:02:05]
about laws but we already know
[1:02:07]
we can do this. It's quite clear
[1:02:09]
that we can do this. Why not to
[1:02:11]
it first? What is going to
[1:02:13]
happen is Fairview is going to
[1:02:15]
-- the strip sold to the REM,
[1:02:19]
the trees will be gone. That
[1:02:20]
will be lost. They are trying to
[1:02:24]
sell off that they do not want
[1:02:27]
bit by bit.
[1:02:31]
>> The issue for us, we came to
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this tonight, is we are in the
[1:02:35]
process and our staff was on
[1:02:37]
this. They have already been
[1:02:39]
well ahead of the game on Bill
[1:02:41]
39. We are going to get -- I
[1:02:43]
agree with you -- we absolutely
[1:02:44]
have to understand the
[1:02:45]
implications and the powers that
[1:02:48]
are accorded to us legally with
[1:02:50]
that law. We have to do it
[1:02:52]
properly so there are no
[1:02:54]
repercussions. We are looking to
[1:02:56]
that effect as we speak. The
[1:02:58]
resolution that you read it's
[1:03:00]
hopefully taken into account. It
[1:03:03]
emphasizes the resolution
[1:03:04]
emphasized still 39 and what it
[1:03:06]
allows us to do. From what I
[1:03:09]
sense, today and in the ridge
[1:03:12]
version of that resolution,
[1:03:13]
there is a possibility of doing
[1:03:14]
exactly that. Whether it happens
[1:03:16]
or not, that is all other thing.
[1:03:17]
There is a possibility.
[1:03:19]
>> If we let the forest be with
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it's not-so-green space for at
[1:03:24]
least for five months, what is
[1:03:26]
going to be left of it?
[1:03:28]
>> Hopefully it will be okay in
[1:03:31]
for five months. Who knows.
[1:03:34]
>> Can anyone stop the REM?
[1:03:38]
>> The REM is a whole different
[1:03:40]
creature.
[1:03:41]
>> It can expropriate the
[1:03:42]
parking lot. Why take the side
[1:03:43]
of Fairview, which is a
[1:03:44]
beautiful force. Why not take
[1:03:45]
the side that is the parking
[1:03:47]
lot?
[1:03:48]
>> You have to ask them on that,
[1:03:49]
I agree with you and yours and I
[1:03:50]
do not know why that did not
[1:03:52]
happen on the outset. I am
[1:03:54]
perplexed as a mayor. I do not
[1:03:55]
know why the buses were moved,
[1:03:59]
why they should have stayed in
[1:04:02]
the Fairview space. I do not
[1:04:03]
know why that was moved. This
[1:04:05]
was all done prior.
[1:04:07]
>> We do not know if it was done
[1:04:08]
in secret behind closed doors.
[1:04:10]
>> Excuse me?
[1:04:15]
>> Are we having an exchange?
[1:04:17]
>> I am answering your question.
[1:04:20]
We will stick to maybe two
[1:04:21]
questions here. I will answer --
[1:04:25]
you are right I have answered
[1:04:27]
the first one. The second one,
[1:04:31]
zoning it. We are hopefully
[1:04:32]
working towards that. How to do
[1:04:35]
so legally and safely, that is a
[1:04:36]
question number one. What is
[1:04:38]
question number two? I
[1:04:39]
remembered it a second ago.
[1:04:41]
>> If you will reinstate your
[1:04:42]
resolution to give us
[1:04:44]
consultations. Not some nebulous
[1:04:46]
some sort of consultation next
[1:04:48]
February.
[1:04:49]
>> I am concerned about the
[1:04:51]
consultations but it is
[1:04:52]
specified in the resolution that
[1:04:54]
there will be but as I said
[1:04:56]
earlier, I am sincerely
[1:04:59]
concerned about how solid that
[1:05:02]
will be moving forward. I agree
[1:05:04]
with you, I share your concerns
[1:05:05]
with that. I thought my
[1:05:10]
resolution was simply for
[1:05:12]
consultation. That is all it was
[1:05:14]
for. That is all I wanted to be.
[1:05:16]
I do not think we should be
[1:05:18]
altering or changing the City or
[1:05:19]
doing any major urban planning
[1:05:22]
decisions in the city until we
[1:05:24]
have public consultation. I have
[1:05:26]
not seen enough of it and we
[1:05:27]
have not got enough information
[1:05:28]
from it to move forward. As a
[1:05:31]
Democrat, I concur then I feel
[1:05:34]
public consultation should be a
[1:05:36]
priority, it should happen
[1:05:37]
sooner as opposed to later.
[1:05:39]
Beyond that, I cannot tell you
[1:05:40]
much more than that. We are
[1:05:42]
moving towards it. It's a stated
[1:05:44]
goal in the resolution. There is
[1:05:45]
no timeline on it but who knows.
[1:05:49]
That is the best I can answer.
[1:05:52]
>> Thank you.
[1:05:54]
>> Thank you.
[1:05:57]
>> Mayor, I like to point
[1:05:59]
something out. Maybe there might
[1:06:00]
be some misunderstanding about
[1:06:02]
the City has no power over the
[1:06:04]
REM. Once the provincial
[1:06:05]
government passed legislation to
[1:06:07]
enable the REM track to be built
[1:06:09]
wherever the -- excuse me, I am
[1:06:12]
talking. I am talking. Wherever
[1:06:14]
the builders shows, they did not
[1:06:18]
the law allow them to do this
[1:06:20]
without any public
[1:06:21]
consultations, without any
[1:06:22]
permission from the City. They
[1:06:24]
purchased the land at the
[1:06:26]
Fairview forest for their use
[1:06:28]
and the city has no say over
[1:06:31]
that.
[1:06:32]
>> I already understood all of
[1:06:35]
that.
[1:06:39]
>> Kathy?
[1:06:47]
>> Good evening. I will start by
[1:06:52]
mentioning a few details about
[1:06:54]
our little street. It is called
[1:06:57]
chestnut avenue. It's called an
[1:07:00]
avenue but what we are talking
[1:07:01]
about here is essentially one
[1:07:05]
block. On that block, there are
[1:07:07]
approximately 18 houses. In
[1:07:15]
2008, the water and road
[1:07:18]
renovation was done on Heather
[1:07:21]
Avenue. At that time, in 2008,
[1:07:23]
our street was supposed to have
[1:07:25]
been completed in the next
[1:07:28]
five-year plan. That would have
[1:07:30]
brought us to 2013 when our
[1:07:33]
start -- streak would have been
[1:07:34]
finished. That did not occur and
[1:07:37]
then more recently we were
[1:07:39]
supposed to be part of a
[1:07:40]
three-year plan whereby Oak
[1:07:43]
Ridge would be done and then
[1:07:45]
Sunday all would be done and
[1:07:47]
then chestnut would be done. At
[1:07:49]
the time, the workers on those
[1:07:52]
street said that the were street
[1:07:53]
was actually our little block.
[1:07:57]
We were waiting patiently.
[1:08:00]
Despite a street that has been
[1:08:02]
full of problems. For instance,
[1:08:04]
we are a street with four open
[1:08:06]
ditches. We have four open
[1:08:08]
ditches in one block. We have
[1:08:11]
about a dozen children out on
[1:08:13]
the street because things have
[1:08:15]
changed, older people have sold,
[1:08:16]
younger people are moving in,
[1:08:18]
there are some babies, they are
[1:08:21]
kitty cats. Now sunny Dale does
[1:08:25]
not have stopped signed, we have
[1:08:27]
stop signs at both ends of our
[1:08:29]
blocks. Now what is happening in
[1:08:32]
multiple residents are
[1:08:34]
mentioning, everybody has been
[1:08:36]
seeing big vehicles and buses
[1:08:38]
using our street. I guess
[1:08:40]
because the other one looks more
[1:08:42]
residential because it does not
[1:08:43]
have stopped signs so they stop
[1:08:46]
and then they step on the gas
[1:08:48]
and anyway. We are being used by
[1:08:51]
multiple vehicles and school
[1:08:54]
buses are one that everyone
[1:08:55]
keeps mentioning. We have a road
[1:08:58]
that looks like a patchwork
[1:09:01]
quilt from all of the digging
[1:09:04]
every winter and all the
[1:09:07]
breakages of the underground
[1:09:09]
pipe system. We also have a lot
[1:09:12]
of puddles of water every time
[1:09:15]
it rains. This one normally
[1:09:17]
would be too much of a problem,
[1:09:19]
the kids would love it, but we
[1:09:20]
do have in that one block, some
[1:09:24]
very compromised individuals
[1:09:27]
vis-à-vis visual, visual acuity
[1:09:30]
and they are not driving cars.
[1:09:32]
They are only walking. When they
[1:09:35]
walk and they cannot see and the
[1:09:37]
place is full of puddles, it is
[1:09:39]
pretty bad. Now there are cracks
[1:09:43]
everywhere. You cannot move
[1:09:44]
without being on a crack.
[1:09:49]
There's one big one growing
[1:09:52]
grass. We have lived with this a
[1:09:53]
long time and recently we were
[1:09:55]
under the impression that in
[1:09:57]
spring of 2025, our road would
[1:09:59]
be done. We have had conflicting
[1:10:05]
information, several residents
[1:10:06]
have contacted the engineering
[1:10:08]
department and have been told
[1:10:10]
that they are not the ones that
[1:10:12]
changed the plans. Then, as
[1:10:16]
terror knows, I contacted her
[1:10:18]
and I told her what we had been
[1:10:21]
told that it was the councillors
[1:10:24]
here that changed the plan. We
[1:10:27]
do not care about who changed
[1:10:29]
the plan, what I am here for is
[1:10:32]
we have made a little petition,
[1:10:34]
we are not very many on the
[1:10:36]
street. It reads, we the
[1:10:38]
taxpayers and residents of
[1:10:39]
Chestnut Avenue, hereby petition
[1:10:40]
the councillors to commence and
[1:10:42]
complete the necessary watering
[1:10:43]
road renovations for our
[1:10:45]
streets, for spring of 2025,
[1:10:47]
without further delay. Chestnut
[1:10:49]
avenue is the only street in our
[1:10:51]
neighbourhood that has recently
[1:10:52]
had neither water nor row
[1:10:55]
renovation, never mind the
[1:10:56]
connecting street and every
[1:10:58]
street in our neighbourhood has
[1:11:00]
been completed. We are extremely
[1:11:06]
disappointed. I have lived in
[1:11:07]
Pointe-Claire since 1972. This
[1:11:11]
is my third address because we
[1:11:14]
bought a semi detached, and when
[1:11:15]
the family grew, we bought a big
[1:11:18]
two storey. With my off rioters
[1:11:19]
and joint replacements, et
[1:11:21]
cetera, et cetera, we went into
[1:11:22]
this nice bungalow on chestnut.
[1:11:25]
It is a great street to live on
[1:11:27]
except we do have a lot of
[1:11:30]
issues in the summer when
[1:11:32]
baseball is on, our little block
[1:11:34]
is parked up on both sides with
[1:11:36]
many peoples wheels resting on
[1:11:38]
our grass. We have a variety of
[1:11:41]
issues with the street. We do
[1:11:43]
not have curves and we have a
[1:11:46]
lot of cracks so my question is,
[1:11:49]
will the Councillors please,
[1:11:52]
please on behalf of my residents
[1:11:54]
on my street and I had four of
[1:11:56]
them here, one had to leave, I
[1:11:59]
still have three residents here.
[1:12:02]
Not just myself but I'm not the
[1:12:04]
only one getting older. I have
[1:12:06]
had three joint replacements. I
[1:12:08]
fear walking on my own street. I
[1:12:12]
fear it because it is too easy
[1:12:14]
to trip. I will go for a small
[1:12:18]
walk and make sure I have my
[1:12:20]
cane with the four-foot and
[1:12:22]
things like that but you never
[1:12:24]
know when somebody is going to
[1:12:26]
really get injured on our
[1:12:28]
street. As I say, there are more
[1:12:31]
children. Some of the people
[1:12:32]
driving using our street is a
[1:12:34]
short cut to get over to the
[1:12:37]
hospital. They are stepping on
[1:12:38]
the gas. One of our residence is
[1:12:41]
not here but I was outside and
[1:12:45]
saw what happened one day and
[1:12:48]
she had a confrontation with the
[1:12:50]
driver. Myself, I was told to F
[1:12:57]
you nowhere. But I stop for the
[1:12:59]
stop sign, I informed, we have
[1:13:01]
children here, we have pets
[1:13:02]
here. People are on the road and
[1:13:04]
the road looks narrow.
[1:13:05]
>> Can I ask you to sort of in a
[1:13:10]
question for ask what you ask of
[1:13:12]
us because we are not the
[1:13:14]
police. What is you -- what you
[1:13:16]
are talking about is something
[1:13:17]
we cannot regulate. We cannot
[1:13:19]
control speeding. That is all
[1:13:23]
police but the driver's
[1:13:24]
behaviour, that kind of thing,
[1:13:25]
we cannot do. Is there anything
[1:13:27]
specific that you think the city
[1:13:28]
can do for Chestnut?
[1:13:30]
>> I think the renovation needs
[1:13:32]
to be done because a couple of
[1:13:34]
us have had to start filtering
[1:13:36]
our water because a metallic
[1:13:39]
takes. We do not know if the
[1:13:42]
water pipes bringing water into
[1:13:44]
our homes for us to use every
[1:13:46]
day whether we are drinking
[1:13:48]
water with any residue from
[1:13:50]
these old pipes that are from
[1:13:52]
the 19 50s. We are just asking.
[1:13:57]
>> I would hope engineering
[1:13:58]
would have that under control. I
[1:14:01]
suspect you are not but are you
[1:14:02]
on the list? Are you on the
[1:14:06]
list? I cannot go into the
[1:14:09]
audience. It's only the person
[1:14:10]
at the microphone. No worries.
[1:14:15]
All I can tell you is that I
[1:14:17]
doubt very much that Council
[1:14:20]
overruled or banished your
[1:14:23]
street repaving. My time with
[1:14:26]
this council, we have not spoken
[1:14:28]
about prioritizing streets. It's
[1:14:30]
generally done by public works
[1:14:32]
and it's done by a professional
[1:14:36]
process in according to need and
[1:14:37]
there's a lot of streets Denis
[1:14:39]
doing. I hear you.
[1:14:41]
>> We've had a need for years.
[1:14:44]
>> There are others who have
[1:14:45]
had. And I heard them as well. I
[1:14:46]
can only say that I trust in my
[1:14:49]
professionals and they make the
[1:14:51]
decisions in the -- it's not a
[1:14:56]
political -- hang on, it's not a
[1:14:57]
political thing. You do not
[1:14:59]
lobby and say that will get done
[1:15:02]
and it's not what we do. Excuse
[1:15:05]
me, I'm surprised at that and I
[1:15:09]
would like the engineering to
[1:15:11]
say which ones and how that
[1:15:13]
happened because I never saw
[1:15:16]
that.
[1:15:20]
>> Can I comment? It's not that
[1:15:22]
the councillors decide which
[1:15:24]
streets are being done or not
[1:15:26]
done. It's that when our team
[1:15:29]
comes to us with all of the
[1:15:31]
directors and the executive team
[1:15:32]
comes to us to work on the
[1:15:33]
budget and the capital
[1:15:35]
investment plan, they present us
[1:15:37]
with the information with the
[1:15:39]
budgets that are required and
[1:15:41]
the projects that are more
[1:15:44]
urgent. And with the financial
[1:15:47]
status of the city. And
[1:15:49]
unfortunately this year, as I
[1:15:52]
explained, the Council have to
[1:15:53]
make a decision based on the
[1:15:55]
advice of our professionals that
[1:15:57]
work at the City to push not
[1:16:00]
just Chestnut but all street
[1:16:03]
projects. If you do a capital
[1:16:05]
investment plan, you will see
[1:16:07]
that there is not any streets
[1:16:09]
being done unless they are being
[1:16:11]
done conjointly with another
[1:16:12]
city in which we are obliged to
[1:16:15]
participate. We had financial
[1:16:17]
constraints that forced us to
[1:16:20]
push to cut the budget and push
[1:16:22]
many projects down the pipe. It
[1:16:24]
doesn't mean that it's not going
[1:16:25]
to happen. It just means that
[1:16:27]
unfortunately, we weren't in the
[1:16:28]
financial position to make it
[1:16:30]
happen this year. Or this
[1:16:33]
upcoming year. When they say
[1:16:35]
that Council made that decision,
[1:16:38]
yes, we have the final say and
[1:16:39]
we do vote on the capital
[1:16:40]
investment plan, but it is based
[1:16:42]
on the advice that's given to us
[1:16:45]
from our team and our
[1:16:46]
professionals who do their job
[1:16:48]
very well and who make a lot of
[1:16:52]
sacrifices in their own
[1:16:53]
departments and who weigh in and
[1:16:55]
measure every suggestion they
[1:16:57]
give us and the suggestion was
[1:16:59]
that we had to make $20 million
[1:17:01]
in cuts, I believe. $20 million
[1:17:05]
in cuts in the budget. More or
[1:17:08]
less of budgets we had
[1:17:11]
anticipated. So we've had to
[1:17:12]
push those projects,
[1:17:14]
unfortunately, in order to have
[1:17:15]
a healthy bottom line. Yes,
[1:17:20]
engineering may say we made that
[1:17:21]
decision because we put our
[1:17:22]
final stamp on it, but we have
[1:17:24]
no say in which streets are
[1:17:26]
being done or not done. They are
[1:17:28]
presented to us as the most
[1:17:30]
important streets. They are
[1:17:31]
ranked importance not just on
[1:17:33]
the asphalt but also on the
[1:17:34]
conditions of the pipes, the
[1:17:36]
number of water main breaks, the
[1:17:38]
discolouration of water,, et
[1:17:40]
cetera. There is the sewage
[1:17:42]
system that gets involved as
[1:17:43]
well. A project like this is
[1:17:44]
maybe five or $6 million. And
[1:17:48]
so, we had to make decisions
[1:17:49]
this year where a lot of
[1:17:51]
projects got unfortunately
[1:17:53]
pushed a little bit down the
[1:17:55]
pipe, so to speak, just because
[1:17:57]
of the financial constraints.
[1:18:00]
>> The street has been getting
[1:18:03]
pushed since 2008. So, I mean,
[1:18:08]
there is a lot of priorities and
[1:18:10]
you are doing a lot of good
[1:18:11]
work. We can see from all the
[1:18:13]
projects that are going on in
[1:18:15]
Pointe-Claire, and they are all
[1:18:16]
very worthy, it's just that we
[1:18:20]
are only one block along. And
[1:18:22]
some people have told me their
[1:18:23]
water has been Braun for weeks.
[1:18:26]
It's not right now, but they've
[1:18:29]
experienced having dirty water
[1:18:30]
for weeks.
[1:18:31]
>> That's duly noted. Let the
[1:18:33]
authorities know and send an
[1:18:35]
email. Let the authorities know
[1:18:37]
and the professionals will go in
[1:18:39]
and will respond as to whether
[1:18:40]
there is a problem with the
[1:18:43]
water. It's not us. This is a
[1:18:46]
professional science. Water is
[1:18:48]
not Council.
[1:18:49]
>> So, we would send our
[1:18:53]
information
[1:18:54]
(applause)
[1:18:55]
>> To public works.
[1:18:58]
>> Well, public works --.
[1:19:01]
>> I've got to let some others
[1:19:03]
speak. Thank you.
[1:19:04]
>> Can I just add, the project
[1:19:05]
is not cancelled. We are not
[1:19:09]
cancelling doing our roadwork.
[1:19:11]
We would just -- we were not
[1:19:13]
able to complete certain
[1:19:15]
projects in the timeline we
[1:19:16]
would like. Please be reassured
[1:19:18]
that the street has not fallen
[1:19:19]
off our radar. It is certainly
[1:19:21]
still on our radar and
[1:19:23]
engineering is keeping track of
[1:19:25]
the needs of the different roads
[1:19:26]
in order to present us next year
[1:19:28]
with a new capital investment
[1:19:31]
plan.
[1:19:32]
>> Keith Kelly?
[1:19:37]
>> One of our --.
[1:19:45]
>> Evening, Council. My name is
[1:19:47]
Keith Kelly. You don't know, you
[1:19:50]
know of me. I've been a lifetime
[1:19:54]
resident of Pointe-Claire and
[1:19:55]
I've paid my taxes for 60 years.
[1:19:58]
You will now guess my age. I
[1:20:02]
came here tonight basically to
[1:20:04]
thank the Council for the work
[1:20:07]
they have done over a number of
[1:20:09]
years. The last two or three
[1:20:11]
years or more, I've probably
[1:20:13]
given consideration in the past,
[1:20:15]
but if you've done a great job
[1:20:16]
with us councillors or me and
[1:20:18]
the rest of the citizens. And I
[1:20:21]
think you have done so
[1:20:23]
particularly recently under very
[1:20:26]
unique and unusual
[1:20:28]
circumstances. Now, when I say
[1:20:34]
that,
[1:20:51]
And what's happening at our
[1:20:53]
recent council meetings. The
[1:20:56]
last two and a half years have
[1:20:59]
been a disaster. As far as I'm
[1:21:01]
concerned. It is unfortunate but
[1:21:03]
it is the way it has been. And I
[1:21:07]
find that the icing on the cake
[1:21:09]
for me was what happened on
[1:21:14]
October 15th, when the Mayor
[1:21:17]
declared that he was going to
[1:21:19]
have a special meeting on an
[1:21:21]
issue close to him. Something he
[1:21:23]
was so very supportive of, which
[1:21:26]
partly is the Fairview forest,
[1:21:30]
which I would personally like to
[1:21:32]
see, and I know there is a lady
[1:21:33]
here, Genevieve, who would also,
[1:21:36]
who has done a of a good job
[1:21:38]
personally and professionally to
[1:21:41]
work on the cause and problems.
[1:21:44]
Now, when I talk about
[1:21:47]
disappointment, the Council, the
[1:21:49]
vote the other night was the
[1:21:52]
15th one, the resolution, the
[1:21:54]
vote showed very, very clearly 7
[1:21:56]
to 1 of councils -- councillors
[1:22:01]
voted against the mayor's
[1:22:02]
proposed proposals. That tells
[1:22:03]
me something.
[1:22:06]
>> And Councillor Tremblay
[1:22:09]
support.
[1:22:10]
>> Yes. He did support. And I
[1:22:12]
would say I will also say
[1:22:14]
something else, I think he is
[1:22:16]
very professional in the way he
[1:22:18]
talks and behaves here at
[1:22:20]
Council. He has his views,
[1:22:21]
that's fine. And now, the other
[1:22:26]
things I would like to talk
[1:22:28]
about --
[1:22:29]
>> Mr. Kelly, are you talking or
[1:22:30]
are you asking a question?
[1:22:31]
>> I will ask you two questions.
[1:22:34]
>> Okay, okay. That's one
[1:22:37]
preamble. Do you have a second
[1:22:38]
preamble? Usually, there's a
[1:22:40]
preamble and a question, Mr.
[1:22:42]
Kelly. There is a preamble and a
[1:22:43]
question and the preamble --
[1:22:45]
>> My preamble is not finished.
[1:22:47]
I will ask my question after. As
[1:22:49]
far as I'm concerned, some of
[1:22:50]
the things that bothers me most
[1:22:53]
is seeing what happens here at
[1:22:55]
Council. Is that I have never,
[1:22:57]
in all the years I have come to
[1:23:00]
Council, see the mayor standing
[1:23:01]
up and voting against something
[1:23:03]
totally against the rest of the
[1:23:06]
group. That is something I have
[1:23:07]
never seen. It's my
[1:23:09]
understanding, rightly or
[1:23:10]
wrongly, that the Mayor votes
[1:23:12]
when there is a tie. Otherwise,
[1:23:13]
he doesn't vote. I may be wrong.
[1:23:16]
That's my understanding over the
[1:23:17]
years and it's the first time
[1:23:19]
I've ever seen the mayor of
[1:23:22]
Pointe-Claire either vote for or
[1:23:24]
against something totally
[1:23:26]
against the councillors. The
[1:23:32]
other thing that bothers me the
[1:23:34]
most is you've never had a
[1:23:37]
situation at these Council
[1:23:39]
meetings where the mayor makes a
[1:23:41]
statement or something and one
[1:23:43]
of the councillors, two, three
[1:23:46]
or four of you have done it over
[1:23:48]
the past little while and have
[1:23:50]
had to call a point of order and
[1:23:53]
correct you on something. And
[1:23:55]
that is totally unusual. Very
[1:23:58]
unusual. Something like that
[1:23:59]
should be taking place back
[1:24:01]
there, in the back room. Which
[1:24:03]
is where it's been done for the
[1:24:05]
last 30 or 40 years, that I know
[1:24:08]
about. Not here on the floor.
[1:24:10]
You shouldn't have to do that.
[1:24:13]
The other thing is that --
[1:24:16]
excuse me.
[1:24:17]
>> Mr. Kelly, you will just list
[1:24:19]
the grievances or ask a
[1:24:21]
question? How long does the list
[1:24:23]
go?
[1:24:24]
>> No, I have to tell you what
[1:24:25]
I'm thinking.
[1:24:26]
>> No, no, Mr. Kelly --
[1:24:34]
>> I have for five answers
[1:24:36]
already.
[1:24:37]
>> I have to say that the
[1:24:38]
Council does a great job. Use it
[1:24:42]
here as the mayor and saying
[1:24:43]
Pointe-Claire is working great.
[1:24:44]
Everything is great.
[1:24:45]
Pointe-Claire is the best city
[1:24:46]
in the West Island and it has
[1:24:48]
been and I hope to keep it that
[1:24:50]
way. But you have to have a
[1:24:52]
Council that does the work and
[1:24:53]
can work together and have a
[1:24:56]
mayor who supposedly is managing
[1:24:58]
and supporting. But it's not
[1:25:00]
evident to me that you are doing
[1:25:02]
that. Maybe that's the problem.
[1:25:08]
I would believe that if there is
[1:25:11]
a problem, it's an assumption,
[1:25:12]
but if there is a problem that
[1:25:16]
Councillor has or a councillor
[1:25:17]
group are having with you as a
[1:25:19]
mayor, I have to assume, rightly
[1:25:21]
or wrongly, that the
[1:25:23]
administration must be having
[1:25:24]
similar problems. That's
[1:25:26]
unfortunate. I think the things
[1:25:32]
-- in Pointe-Claire,
[1:25:34]
Pointe-Claire has to do a lot of
[1:25:35]
things that I don't like. I wish
[1:25:37]
I could go back to the days when
[1:25:38]
I was born here. And that's just
[1:25:40]
not realistic. Unfortunately,
[1:25:43]
things happen and we are
[1:25:45]
building big buildings. I don't
[1:25:46]
think the condos. You don't eat
[1:25:48]
them either. But that's the way
[1:25:50]
it is. The provincial, the
[1:25:53]
federal, the local, Montréal,
[1:25:55]
they are saying that's what
[1:25:56]
we've got to do and we are doing
[1:25:57]
it. Finally, as far as I am
[1:26:01]
concerned, I think myself, we
[1:26:03]
would be better as a mayor to
[1:26:06]
spend a little more time around
[1:26:08]
the office here rather than out
[1:26:12]
at all the gatherings to get
[1:26:17]
yourself, take pictures and post
[1:26:18]
them on Facebook. I, mean I get
[1:26:21]
a little tired of looking at
[1:26:23]
your Facebook. There is Tim
[1:26:25]
Thomas with his camera taking a
[1:26:27]
picture of himself.
[1:26:29]
>> Mr. Kelly --
[1:26:32]
>> Excuse, me folks. I concur. I
[1:26:34]
would like to get a question.
[1:26:36]
Mr. Kelly, there are other
[1:26:37]
people on the list that would
[1:26:38]
like to ask questions. Can I
[1:26:42]
answer all out? I have like five
[1:26:43]
or six. I'm running out of
[1:26:45]
responses. I'm running out of
[1:26:47]
paper. Because so many incorrect
[1:26:49]
accusations have been thrown out
[1:26:50]
that I have to correct. I'm
[1:26:51]
running out of paper to write
[1:26:53]
on. I want to keep going. Do you
[1:26:54]
have a question? Before just the
[1:26:58]
insinuations?
[1:26:59]
>> I would go a little further.
[1:27:00]
>> I believe you could. Your
[1:27:04]
question has the pertain to what
[1:27:05]
you just said.
[1:27:06]
>> My question is, are you, as
[1:27:08]
the Mayor, prepared to get on
[1:27:10]
board with council and the
[1:27:13]
administration in the best
[1:27:16]
interest of the citizens? And
[1:27:20]
you can run the city, and if you
[1:27:22]
cannot run the city alone, if
[1:27:24]
you can't get on board -- on
[1:27:27]
board, I suggest that you resign
[1:27:29]
and leave one of the councillors
[1:27:34]
to finish the term allotted that
[1:27:36]
you have.
[1:27:37]
>> Unfortunately, Mr. Kelly, an
[1:27:39]
awful lot of people disagree
[1:27:40]
with you on. That I was elected
[1:27:41]
Mayor for a reason. One would
[1:27:44]
hope that the administration,'s
[1:27:46]
councillors get along with
[1:27:47]
mayors as well and we work in
[1:27:50]
tandem. You are lumping the
[1:27:52]
administration into your
[1:27:54]
question was an unfair one. They
[1:27:56]
are non political and they don't
[1:27:57]
like to be lumped in like that,
[1:27:59]
like you've just done, implying
[1:28:00]
that they are adopting a
[1:28:03]
political stance where they
[1:28:04]
concur one way or the other. I
[1:28:06]
assure, you from my knowledge,
[1:28:07]
the administration and I get
[1:28:09]
along just fine. And there is no
[1:28:11]
rancor and no harsh feelings
[1:28:13]
between us. The meeting that you
[1:28:18]
said I called on the issue that
[1:28:19]
was close to me, it's not close
[1:28:22]
to me. It's close to everybody
[1:28:24]
in the city. It was on building
[1:28:26]
height and the City green
[1:28:29]
spaces, which was not an issue
[1:28:30]
that's close to me. It's an
[1:28:31]
issue that is a dominant issue
[1:28:32]
in Pointe-Claire society, sir.
[1:28:35]
It was not self serving in any
[1:28:37]
way, shape or form. The calling
[1:28:44]
a meeting that was on an issue,
[1:28:47]
to me, has been done. Special
[1:28:48]
council meetings have been
[1:28:50]
called by other members of
[1:28:52]
Council on three separate
[1:28:54]
occasions, besides. Me so it is
[1:28:55]
done already. Against my wishes.
[1:28:58]
And this was prior to my special
[1:29:00]
meeting. It was done on three
[1:29:01]
separate occasions against my
[1:29:03]
wishes and against me. They were
[1:29:04]
called against me. But I guess
[1:29:08]
the most important answer I can
[1:29:10]
give you, I remember when I was
[1:29:15]
running for mayor in the last
[1:29:18]
mandate, prior to running for
[1:29:19]
mayor when I was a citizen, I
[1:29:20]
would come to Council meetings
[1:29:22]
that were far more disruptive
[1:29:25]
than the ones during my mandate.
[1:29:27]
And I've seen people go, Mr.
[1:29:31]
Kelly, you have some kind of
[1:29:32]
revisionist history going on.
[1:29:33]
There I remember people being
[1:29:34]
thrown out. I remember people
[1:29:36]
being thrown out on a constant
[1:29:38]
basis. People standing up and
[1:29:39]
yelling. I remember the
[1:29:42]
particular pioneer concert --
[1:29:44]
consultation was incredibly
[1:29:45]
rockets and people were slamming
[1:29:47]
doors. So, the juxtaposition is
[1:29:49]
not a fair, one sir. And your
[1:29:52]
memory is really coloured on
[1:29:54]
that one. As to whether I am
[1:29:58]
resigning, no. Because I serve
[1:30:00]
the people and the people chose
[1:30:02]
me and they chose the philosophy
[1:30:04]
in perspective that I espoused
[1:30:07]
during the last campaign. And I
[1:30:09]
think they still do and I will
[1:30:10]
not betray the people in this
[1:30:13]
regard. And I had one of the
[1:30:16]
(applause)
[1:30:17]
One other issue, so many things
[1:30:18]
going. I think that is the best.
[1:30:20]
As you, know I have no intention
[1:30:21]
of resigning. And I do plan to
[1:30:23]
run again to save this beautiful
[1:30:25]
city. Thank, you sir.
[1:30:26]
>> I would just like to make a
[1:30:27]
clarification, please.
[1:30:28]
>> Go ahead, Councillor Stork. I
[1:30:30]
just want to clarify that the
[1:30:32]
three special meetings that we
[1:30:33]
had weren't against you, they
[1:30:35]
were for the citizens of
[1:30:38]
Pointe-Claire.
[1:30:39]
>> They were against my wishes.
[1:30:40]
Councillor Stork sees them as
[1:30:43]
the councillors of,
[1:30:44]
Pointe-Claire that's very. Now
[1:30:45]
if they were special council
[1:30:46]
meetings that disagreed with my
[1:30:47]
position that were called
[1:30:48]
against me, against my position.
[1:30:51]
So there we go. Okay, so, Linda.
[1:31:02]
Dumas.
[1:31:20]
>> It's really useful. I thought
[1:31:22]
that was another step.
[1:31:26]
>> It's right over there.
[1:31:33]
>> I am -- sorry. Good evening,
[1:31:40]
I am sad that we are in such
[1:31:42]
conflict. My heart is beating a
[1:31:45]
little bit faster. My hearing --
[1:31:48]
I'm hearing that they are
[1:31:50]
possibly or has been some
[1:31:54]
compromised -- compromise in
[1:31:55]
caucus.
[1:32:02]
And I know that
[1:32:11]
that we are on the right track
[1:32:13]
to save the forest. Because the
[1:32:21]
federal ministries, provincial
[1:32:23]
ministries, et cetera, et cetera
[1:32:25]
are coming on board. And those
[1:32:29]
higher levels of government are
[1:32:30]
always more ponderous in taking
[1:32:33]
a longer time than what we
[1:32:35]
should be doing. Linda do it is
[1:32:39]
saying that we have some powers.
[1:32:43]
I'm so happy that the majority
[1:32:47]
of us -- can you not hear?
[1:32:49]
>> No, this is better.
[1:32:51]
>> Sorry. That the majority of
[1:32:53]
us did vote for you and your
[1:32:56]
platform. I would like to point
[1:32:57]
out that there was a third
[1:32:59]
candidate, mayoral T candidate
[1:33:03]
who received 8%, whose platform,
[1:33:06]
a different personality whose
[1:33:09]
platform was really identical
[1:33:13]
with saving this lung of
[1:33:18]
humanity in the 21st century. We
[1:33:21]
must keep in mind, it's the 21st
[1:33:23]
century. For over 40 years,
[1:33:27]
since 1980, the data has been
[1:33:29]
crystal clear that we are --
[1:33:34]
that humanity isn't a desperate
[1:33:36]
time. The planet does not, the
[1:33:39]
planet will do what the planet
[1:33:41]
is going to do. But 100 years of
[1:33:45]
the 20th century, we were so
[1:33:49]
promiscuous, we were so
[1:33:50]
wonderful. We were so -- we were
[1:33:58]
so -- we were super human
[1:34:00]
beings. And we lost the plot.
[1:34:05]
And I have so many wishes. I do
[1:34:08]
wish that this chair behind you,
[1:34:10]
sir, is not just a throwaway
[1:34:14]
token. It was presented --
[1:34:21]
Sandra, were you here with
[1:34:23]
others? There is a desperate
[1:34:24]
need for our youth to see in us
[1:34:29]
the ability to act for them. To
[1:34:33]
give them an inkling of hope for
[1:34:36]
the future. Where is granted
[1:34:41]
Thunberg always in jail? It is
[1:34:46]
perplexing. I started on a
[1:34:48]
positive note.
[1:34:53]
>> There is a question coming?
[1:34:55]
>> No, I never have a question
[1:34:57]
because I think that's beneath
[1:34:58]
the citizens. This is a
[1:35:03]
citizens, period.
[1:35:04]
>> It's actually question
[1:35:05]
period.
[1:35:06]
>> I would like the commentary
[1:35:10]
of -- on this pamphlet that I
[1:35:14]
found that a post office kiosk.
[1:35:18]
The only one, it was last week.
[1:35:21]
I have read it. I like it -- I
[1:35:25]
like the simplicity of it. It
[1:35:30]
wasn't mailed, was? It
[1:35:31]
otherwise, I would have received
[1:35:33]
it. Were there piles of it
[1:35:35]
everywhere? Why don't we have a
[1:35:36]
pile of it here? So, I would
[1:35:38]
like commentary as to got this.
[1:35:46]
I very much like
[1:35:56]
-- there is the other stuff, the
[1:35:57]
improving the citizen
[1:35:59]
consultation platform. And I
[1:36:00]
spent all of yesterday with Coco
[1:36:04]
Rico, your consultation seemed
[1:36:09]
to have wasted an awful lot of
[1:36:11]
time last year. And we are going
[1:36:13]
at it again. It is 14 pages.
[1:36:16]
Everybody, read it. It is very
[1:36:19]
good. There is one mention a
[1:36:21]
terracotta forest and the
[1:36:22]
mention is that we have got to
[1:36:24]
get rid of the buck thorn,
[1:36:26]
absolutely. I've got it all
[1:36:28]
around me. But what I would like
[1:36:31]
to, see Madam --, as you have
[1:36:34]
said in your comment, that we
[1:36:37]
want to be more current. I would
[1:36:40]
like to see the next publication
[1:36:42]
of this, if you could give me a
[1:36:44]
call so that I don't just
[1:36:47]
accidentally happened to get it,
[1:36:48]
I would like to see you going
[1:36:54]
out to the scientific community,
[1:36:57]
local and beyond, you really
[1:36:59]
don't have to go far. And have
[1:37:03]
as many pages that are needed to
[1:37:07]
inform the citizenry of this.
[1:37:11]
>> Respectfully, you should
[1:37:12]
address the mayor.
[1:37:13]
>> Excuse me?
[1:37:14]
>> You should address the mayor.
[1:37:17]
>> Oh, fine. A very good, very
[1:37:20]
good. And you, of course. I
[1:37:25]
would like commentary. That is
[1:37:27]
my question. Can we get the
[1:37:32]
green coalition, the legacy
[1:37:34]
fund, the wonderful say Fairview
[1:37:38]
forest, they are wells of
[1:37:40]
knowledge. You are gentlemen.
[1:37:42]
Bruno Tremblay is a wealth of
[1:37:44]
knowledge. He is your friend. He
[1:37:47]
speaks with you. I know that he
[1:37:51]
tells you that you have run out
[1:37:52]
of time. We've all run out of
[1:37:55]
time. If you are going to do
[1:37:59]
something, Linda De Witt said it
[1:38:01]
best, get it done. And there's
[1:38:04]
always a way to pay for this.
[1:38:05]
There is always a way to
[1:38:08]
negotiate. And the thought came
[1:38:09]
to me after reading 24 hours of
[1:38:14]
the Ontario teachers pension
[1:38:16]
plan on Cadillac Fairview over
[1:38:17]
the last 24 hours. Their mandate
[1:38:20]
is to improve, improve, improve,
[1:38:23]
get to zero net. Tell Cadillac
[1:38:28]
Fairview who is owned and does
[1:38:31]
the bidding of a teacher's
[1:38:33]
pension plan that they don't
[1:38:36]
have to initially spend a scent
[1:38:40]
if they keep that forest as it
[1:38:44]
is. It will benefit the heat
[1:38:47]
island, their heat island,
[1:38:49]
they're in permeability, which,
[1:38:53]
councillors, that has to be
[1:38:55]
changed.
[1:38:56]
>> I've got to get you --
[1:38:57]
>> Commentary, please, from
[1:38:59]
Madame Verdun. I don't know who
[1:39:01]
puts this together. I would
[1:39:04]
really love to see something to
[1:39:07]
address the issue that we voted
[1:39:11]
in for, that two mayoral tea
[1:39:15]
candidates worked on and it's
[1:39:18]
not pie in the sky. That's why
[1:39:21]
on October 15th, probably, was
[1:39:23]
as raucous as it was, sadly, as
[1:39:25]
it was. And hopefully has
[1:39:30]
spurred this somewhat
[1:39:32]
reconciliation. Please do not
[1:39:33]
frighten us, Mr. Stork, with
[1:39:37]
money. Money will always be
[1:39:38]
found to do the right thing. The
[1:39:40]
money that we don't have is
[1:39:43]
reparations for not doing what
[1:39:45]
we absolutely must do.
[1:39:53]
>> That's it? No question?
[1:39:55]
>> My question is, I would like
[1:39:57]
commentary.
[1:39:58]
>> Commentary on that?
[1:39:59]
>> Yes.
[1:40:01]
>> Madame Verdun?
[1:40:04]
>> We want to see --
[1:40:05]
>> Oh, no, no. Okay, all right.
[1:40:12]
I met, how are we distributing
[1:40:13]
it and who are we sending it to?
[1:40:16]
No, okay. Ralph statistic? I
[1:40:29]
can't answer for Madame Verdun.
[1:40:33]
>> It's a question period for
[1:40:35]
the City Council.
[1:40:36]
>> Yes. Okay, so -- no, no, no.
[1:40:42]
It's a question period for City
[1:40:44]
Council. The staff does, and the
[1:40:48]
staff makes the --
[1:40:49]
>> It's the communications
[1:40:52]
department.
[1:40:53]
>> You can ask the
[1:40:54]
communications department
[1:40:56]
tomorrow, Mrs. do miss. Okay,
[1:41:01]
Mister stock?
[1:41:04]
>> I'll be really fast.
[1:41:07]
[Laughter]
[1:41:08]
Last month, I was so upset with
[1:41:11]
Council, I had kind of had it
[1:41:13]
and given up, really, on the
[1:41:18]
possibilities. And I am really
[1:41:20]
afraid to be optimistic tonight.
[1:41:23]
But extremely hopeful and I hope
[1:41:26]
it doesn't get screwed up and I
[1:41:28]
think the citizens have said it
[1:41:29]
over and over again, whatever
[1:41:31]
side you are on, it looks like
[1:41:34]
you have made yourselves an
[1:41:37]
opportunity and responded with
[1:41:40]
some leadership to finally sort
[1:41:43]
this out in a way that you know
[1:41:44]
the citizens want. So, I am
[1:41:48]
encouraged. I've thrown out what
[1:41:49]
I was going to say because I
[1:41:51]
read very carefully, many times
[1:41:52]
over, your resolution. I like
[1:41:55]
some of the changes. Who knows
[1:41:56]
what it will be eventually. I do
[1:41:59]
want to say that I hope -- it
[1:42:04]
didn't seem to be in the current
[1:42:06]
resolution. I hope, in the end,
[1:42:08]
that Cadillac Fairview will have
[1:42:12]
no role in determining the
[1:42:15]
nature of our consultations. And
[1:42:18]
Cadillac Fairview will not be
[1:42:21]
involved in early meetings where
[1:42:23]
they determine what people can
[1:42:25]
say and what the agenda is.
[1:42:28]
Whether it be in consultations
[1:42:30]
or with the eventual outcomes
[1:42:33]
for Mu1 and Mu2. That's not
[1:42:35]
their role, that is the private
[1:42:38]
corporation. Their role, is to
[1:42:40]
get as much profit as they
[1:42:41]
possibly can for their
[1:42:43]
stakeholders. And that is all
[1:42:44]
fine and good. But our city,
[1:42:47]
it's our cities role, our cities
[1:42:49]
administration, our cities
[1:42:51]
councillors to determine our
[1:42:54]
future, not a private
[1:42:55]
corporation. Even if they do run
[1:42:57]
the land, it doesn't matter. The
[1:43:00]
City has a role. And I hope that
[1:43:03]
that is realized. And I think
[1:43:05]
you've maybe taken a real step
[1:43:07]
in leadership and compromise.
[1:43:09]
And I am very, very hopeful that
[1:43:11]
you guys can get it together.
[1:43:13]
Thank you very much. And I'm
[1:43:15]
going to stop because I don't
[1:43:17]
have a question. You answered it
[1:43:19]
when you change the agenda.
[1:43:21]
Thanks.
[1:43:22]
>> Okay. Sandra Mackay? Same
[1:43:25]
there?
[1:43:28]
[Inaudible]
[1:43:30]
>> May I have a comment, please?
[1:43:34]
We also it was originally
[1:43:37]
written. It was much more
[1:43:39]
encompassing. It was very heavy.
[1:43:41]
It was mentioned, Cadillac
[1:43:44]
Fairview, Mu1, Mu2. I just want
[1:43:47]
to say that after what
[1:43:50]
transpired with the letters, Mr.
[1:43:54]
-- speech last month, which
[1:43:56]
upset me, that's, okay your
[1:43:57]
motion will just like I am. When
[1:44:00]
we came to caucus today,
[1:44:03]
obviously, it is behind closed
[1:44:05]
doors. But I can see for the
[1:44:06]
first time that we discussed
[1:44:08]
things and had an open
[1:44:10]
conversation. And we figured it
[1:44:12]
out. I just want to point out
[1:44:14]
that things were going south,
[1:44:16]
yes. And I mean this from the
[1:44:18]
bottom of my heart, I thank
[1:44:21]
Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, because I
[1:44:22]
think she rained everything back
[1:44:23]
in to an extent. And I think we
[1:44:25]
got to a situation where on
[1:44:27]
Council, everybody, except the
[1:44:29]
mayor, which is fine, it's his
[1:44:31]
prerogative, the favour of this
[1:44:33]
new resolution to get exactly
[1:44:35]
that. Cadillac Fairview is in,
[1:44:37]
we pulled them out. We've
[1:44:39]
changed things. Originally, we
[1:44:40]
were going to add something. If
[1:44:43]
they do want to play games, we
[1:44:44]
will do this anyhow. So I think
[1:44:46]
we really came to a compromise.
[1:44:48]
That all of our target audience
[1:44:51]
and, that's what we need to do.
[1:44:53]
I think the Mayor mentioned it's
[1:44:54]
a bit of a watershed moment and
[1:44:56]
hopefully we can continue that.
[1:44:59]
>> David Johnson?
[1:45:12]
>> Just like my new best friend,
[1:45:15]
Ralph, I'm very impressed that
[1:45:21]
tonight, you had a meeting hours
[1:45:25]
before Council, there were
[1:45:29]
points of disagreement going
[1:45:30]
into. It somehow, you worked
[1:45:34]
collaboratively and have come to
[1:45:36]
a consensus. Congratulations to
[1:45:40]
you all. Did you have the same
[1:45:45]
meeting before the special
[1:45:49]
meeting in October?
[1:45:57]
>> Why was there no meeting like
[1:46:00]
there was tonight?
[1:46:01]
>> The meeting we have tonight
[1:46:03]
was a direct result of the last
[1:46:05]
meeting. And that's why it went
[1:46:07]
so positively.
[1:46:08]
>> I would like to comment to
[1:46:09]
that, please.
[1:46:10]
>> Sure.
[1:46:11]
>> I think the meeting of a
[1:46:13]
month and a half ago, when I
[1:46:15]
said in public that I was going
[1:46:17]
to make this a little -- and put
[1:46:19]
together a resolution
[1:46:21]
communicating after that, I
[1:46:22]
think this meeting, yes, you're
[1:46:26]
resolution, some -- as we said,
[1:46:28]
we all agreed on public
[1:46:30]
consultations. It's just that
[1:46:31]
some people had concerns all the
[1:46:33]
way was written and we put a
[1:46:34]
majority of what was in yours
[1:46:37]
and adopted it. But please do
[1:46:39]
not say that this meeting, this
[1:46:41]
resolution is subject to what
[1:46:42]
you did last week. This process
[1:46:45]
started much before.
[1:46:46]
>> It's not what I did last
[1:46:47]
week. Gets what the citizens did
[1:46:48]
last week. And I think, Mr.
[1:46:50]
Johnson, that we've had ample
[1:46:53]
opportunity to have meetings
[1:46:54]
like the one we had tonight.
[1:46:57]
We've had ample opportunities.
[1:47:01]
>> This is a good --
[1:47:03]
>> It's not a specific moment.
[1:47:04]
We've had three years of
[1:47:07]
opportunity. It happened
[1:47:08]
tonight. I particularly think --
[1:47:11]
>> It's a breakthrough.
[1:47:12]
>> I think that the last meeting
[1:47:15]
had a major influence. And I
[1:47:18]
think the citizens had an impact
[1:47:19]
and I applaud them. And I think
[1:47:22]
that's --
[1:47:23]
>> Congratulations to you. Well
[1:47:24]
>> Councillor Tremblay, did you
[1:47:26]
want to speak? No, okay.
[1:47:43]
>> I can never be heard, all
[1:47:44]
these questions. You're keeping
[1:47:45]
us on our toes. I just want to
[1:47:48]
mention about the whereas, I
[1:47:50]
know it is too late to modify
[1:47:51]
the resolution but I would like
[1:47:56]
to, I can member who it was that
[1:47:57]
said about the 30% protection of
[1:47:59]
green spaces.
[1:48:00]
>> That was me.
[1:48:01]
>> That was you, thank you very
[1:48:03]
much. The peanut does require,
[1:48:06]
it does recommend protection of
[1:48:08]
30% of green spaces. I would
[1:48:09]
also like to mention that the --
[1:48:14]
protected the wetlands. The new
[1:48:17]
scheme is in the draft versions
[1:48:19]
but it protects 30% of the
[1:48:22]
forest because of the wetlands.
[1:48:24]
That is important that it be in
[1:48:26]
their. I think it could be
[1:48:27]
really important for it to be in
[1:48:28]
there. But as for my questions,
[1:48:34]
first of, all I'm really excited
[1:48:35]
about the fact that the
[1:48:36]
resolution came forward. I
[1:48:37]
appreciate all the work you put
[1:48:38]
into it. Sorry, I'm just going
[1:48:42]
off notes I wrote really quickly
[1:48:44]
to reassess after tonight. I'm
[1:48:47]
wondering what the consultations
[1:48:49]
could look like. Could it look
[1:48:51]
like a presentation of the
[1:48:52]
information you've gathered? Or
[1:48:54]
is it a consultation where you
[1:48:56]
ask for citizens participation?
[1:48:58]
I am just curious about what
[1:49:00]
that could look like, or you
[1:49:01]
don't know what that could look
[1:49:02]
like yet.
[1:49:06]
>> First of, all have been
[1:49:08]
forbid it should be us, I don't
[1:49:09]
think it should be, as I think
[1:49:10]
it should be a professional.
[1:49:11]
We've had consultants in the
[1:49:14]
consultation process. It should
[1:49:15]
remain that way, keeping the
[1:49:18]
politician -- politicians out of
[1:49:19]
the consultation. I think it is
[1:49:20]
the way we've done. If that
[1:49:21]
would be my input on that one.
[1:49:24]
As to the structuring of the
[1:49:25]
consultation, that's us. And
[1:49:27]
that's us through the urban
[1:49:29]
planning part. We will see what
[1:49:31]
will happen. I can't predict the
[1:49:35]
future. I am a trained
[1:49:37]
methodology of. I'm very
[1:49:38]
concerned about it. I think it's
[1:49:41]
very important that we solicit
[1:49:43]
opinion in a proper way because
[1:49:45]
it's a genuine expression of the
[1:49:47]
population. And hopefully,
[1:49:48]
that's what we will do.
[1:49:50]
>> Would you consider presenting
[1:49:52]
the information to the public
[1:49:53]
once you've gathered that?
[1:49:55]
>> I would think so, yes.
[1:49:57]
>> Okay. My second follow-up
[1:50:02]
question, would you take the
[1:50:03]
liberty of changing the
[1:50:04]
timelines? I find the timeline
[1:50:06]
extremely tied together, all the
[1:50:07]
information.
[1:50:08]
>> Absolutely.
[1:50:09]
>> I still do understand if the
[1:50:10]
study was part of that but I'm
[1:50:11]
concerned about the very short
[1:50:12]
timeline until February, would
[1:50:13]
you consider changing that
[1:50:15]
timeline?
[1:50:16]
>> I think it was changed, was
[1:50:17]
it not?
[1:50:18]
>> I think it remained February
[1:50:20]
1st.
[1:50:21]
>> As I mentioned to you on a
[1:50:23]
social platform, we felt
[1:50:26]
January, we moved up to February
[1:50:28]
1st. But that is just to give us
[1:50:30]
feedback, to give some
[1:50:31]
information of where we are at.
[1:50:33]
As I mentioned, like, the study
[1:50:34]
that is required, everything
[1:50:37]
else surrounding it, probably a
[1:50:40]
15 month study to do a proper
[1:50:42]
study. You know, I mentioned the
[1:50:44]
-- that was done in seven for
[1:50:47]
our visits over three months.
[1:50:51]
>> In over nine months.
[1:50:53]
>> Actually, we can debate that
[1:50:55]
after. I'm not discrediting it.
[1:50:57]
I'm saying a true study takes
[1:50:59]
that long. That's what we have
[1:51:00]
to start this process. We have
[1:51:02]
everything else. But I think we
[1:51:03]
have to set goals and targets. I
[1:51:06]
mean, this resolution was forced
[1:51:08]
because I felt, and the majority
[1:51:09]
of Council felt that we weren't
[1:51:11]
doing things, for whatever
[1:51:13]
reason. And I'm not blaming
[1:51:14]
anybody. I'm part of the blame
[1:51:16]
myself, believe me. But we have
[1:51:18]
to start a process. And I think
[1:51:20]
that is what we accomplished
[1:51:22]
today. The February date is just
[1:51:24]
a come back and say, you know,
[1:51:26]
we are almost done. We are
[1:51:27]
getting here. There is not much
[1:51:29]
longer. But you have to give
[1:51:30]
time to the administration.
[1:51:33]
Something we have to do,
[1:51:34]
regretfully. They need the time
[1:51:36]
to come back and say, hey, it's
[1:51:38]
going to take 18 months. This
[1:51:39]
will take four months. Here's an
[1:51:40]
answer on that. Throughout the
[1:51:42]
process, we listen to our
[1:51:43]
citizens. We hear them. We can
[1:51:45]
add and modify and things as
[1:51:47]
such as we go along. But my
[1:51:49]
endgame is simple. At one point,
[1:51:51]
synthesized this information, as
[1:51:52]
I said and share with the
[1:51:55]
popular so that we can make
[1:51:57]
sound, educated, fundamental
[1:52:00]
decisions. And what can we do?
[1:52:02]
What are our options? That's
[1:52:05]
part of the process. It will be
[1:52:06]
a moving target. As the mayor
[1:52:08]
said, they should come from
[1:52:10]
professional people who do their
[1:52:12]
job.
[1:52:13]
>> 100%. Just the wording of the
[1:52:15]
resolution was that, come
[1:52:17]
February 1st, the consultation
[1:52:19]
framework would be established.
[1:52:21]
So I thought it just seemed very
[1:52:24]
process -- that seemed very
[1:52:26]
rapid to meet.
[1:52:27]
>> I agree with you. That is far
[1:52:28]
too rapid for that. My hope and
[1:52:35]
understanding, I can't speak for
[1:52:36]
everybody, but we can respond to
[1:52:39]
the options presented by the
[1:52:41]
various legal frameworks, Bill
[1:52:43]
30, nine Bill 20, two et cetera.
[1:52:45]
Even the -- we can get answers
[1:52:48]
to that. These are the primary
[1:52:53]
ones, the really paramount
[1:52:54]
issues. We should have some of
[1:52:55]
those in our heads before, by
[1:52:58]
February. But you are, right we
[1:52:59]
are in no position to go to
[1:53:01]
consultation by February, I
[1:53:02]
don't think. Especially if we
[1:53:03]
are doing environmental
[1:53:04]
assessments, we are no position
[1:53:06]
to go to consultation. I agree.
[1:53:09]
>> I'm still a little bit -- as
[1:53:10]
to how this is going to unroll.
[1:53:13]
>> I know what happens tonight.
[1:53:15]
>> We've been here for four
[1:53:17]
years but for this topic, I've
[1:53:18]
been here many years before
[1:53:20]
that. Really, I just want to say
[1:53:22]
that we appreciate how much work
[1:53:24]
has gone into this and the fact
[1:53:25]
that it sounds like caucus and
[1:53:26]
went okay on this topic. Just
[1:53:30]
going to breathe a little bit of
[1:53:32]
a sigh of relief here and I'm
[1:53:33]
looking forward to seeing what
[1:53:34]
happens moving forward. So,
[1:53:36]
thank you.
[1:53:40]
>> Gerard.
[1:53:41]
Bonjour écrivez.
[1:53:50]
>> Lynn Conway?
[1:53:58]
>> Lynn Conway, good evening.
[1:54:05]
The resolution mentioned
[1:54:06]
consultations.
[1:54:11]
With the firm in the
[1:54:14]
consultations -- maybe 100
[1:54:15]
people at the most. Why not do a
[1:54:18]
referendum on the issues? To
[1:54:24]
really know what citizens want.
[1:54:26]
>> A referendum on which issue?
[1:54:30]
>> For the private spaces, the
[1:54:33]
private forest.
[1:54:34]
>> Public spaces?
[1:54:36]
>> The resolution that was voted
[1:54:38]
tonight, to have public
[1:54:40]
participation. Why not do a
[1:54:41]
referendum instead?
[1:54:42]
>> Well, referendums are costly
[1:54:44]
and expensive. If we do it, I
[1:54:47]
don't see us doing referendums
[1:54:49]
on every single issue that comes
[1:54:50]
up in Council. I don't know the
[1:54:52]
feasibility of it. I mean,
[1:54:53]
having a referendum, the
[1:54:55]
question, of course, is crucial,
[1:54:58]
all right? And they tend to be
[1:55:00]
divisive. But who knows. Nothing
[1:55:02]
is impossible. It is a
[1:55:05]
possibility.
[1:55:06]
>> This is the biggest issue
[1:55:07]
this Council had since day one.
[1:55:13]
As I've mentioned before, I
[1:55:15]
participated in the
[1:55:17]
consultations and at most, there
[1:55:18]
was 100 people in the room.
[1:55:21]
>> That's pretty good. That's
[1:55:22]
pretty good, as far as
[1:55:23]
consultations go. 100 people.
[1:55:24]
>> It's just 100 people are
[1:55:26]
giving their opinions. It
[1:55:29]
doesn't really reflect the whole
[1:55:31]
city.
[1:55:33]
>> Well, an election is a
[1:55:34]
reflection of the whole city.
[1:55:35]
Even then, you get very little
[1:55:37]
turnout. Whether you are going
[1:55:39]
to get, I mean, 100 is good and
[1:55:42]
public participation, if you get
[1:55:43]
100, that's quite an
[1:55:44]
achievement. If you get over 50,
[1:55:45]
that's quite an achievement in
[1:55:47]
public consultation. And I'm
[1:55:49]
quite pleased at that. Actually,
[1:55:51]
if you have a series of
[1:55:54]
consultations, that's quite a
[1:55:55]
good turnout. No, no, no. We
[1:55:59]
cannot speak from the audience.
[1:56:01]
Excuse me, Miss Dumas. We can't
[1:56:04]
speak from the audience, one
[1:56:06]
can't speak from the audience.
[1:56:08]
Sorry, Miss Conway, did you --
[1:56:11]
>> Didn't answer my first
[1:56:12]
question. The second one is
[1:56:14]
again about the -- resolution of
[1:56:16]
this evening. You kept
[1:56:18]
mentioning private green spaces.
[1:56:19]
>> It should be private and
[1:56:21]
public. It should include both
[1:56:23]
as per my resolution.
[1:56:26]
>> But the resolution --
[1:56:27]
>> Green spaces, private and
[1:56:29]
public includes all green
[1:56:30]
spaces.
[1:56:31]
>> All the public ones we own
[1:56:32]
are already protected. That's
[1:56:33]
why it says private green
[1:56:34]
spaces. It was done prior to
[1:56:36]
this council getting together.
[1:56:38]
>> Even if we own them, there
[1:56:39]
are not necessarily protected.
[1:56:41]
There may be different ways,
[1:56:43]
different ways to -- there may
[1:56:46]
be different ways -- protection
[1:56:48]
is a debatable term. Anyhow,
[1:56:51]
Miss Conway --
[1:56:53]
>> From what I heard, I kept
[1:56:55]
hearing private green spaces
[1:56:57]
over and over. Mrs. Linda De
[1:57:02]
which mentioned Fairview forest
[1:57:04]
and Mu2. I don't think they were
[1:57:08]
specifically mentioned in the
[1:57:09]
resolution, can we have a list
[1:57:10]
of what they are?
[1:57:13]
>> Private and public green
[1:57:16]
spaces, all of it. It's all of.
[1:57:17]
It
[1:57:18]
>> Spaces that will be in the
[1:57:19]
resolution do you have a list of
[1:57:21]
them --
[1:57:22]
>> Not offhand, ponder which
[1:57:24]
might be included, Beaconsfield
[1:57:26]
golf course, these are a few I'm
[1:57:29]
thinking. If there are other
[1:57:32]
private green spaces in
[1:57:34]
Pointe-Claire, other than the
[1:57:35]
Fairview forest.
[1:57:36]
>> Can I ask Eric, what is in
[1:57:37]
your mind -- do you share the
[1:57:39]
same list?
[1:57:40]
>> No, I will not. I think this
[1:57:42]
is a Council decision, we will
[1:57:43]
go back, we can communicate and
[1:57:46]
discuss what informations are
[1:57:48]
provided and come back,
[1:57:49]
hopefully on a unit -- united
[1:57:51]
front.
[1:57:52]
>> This council voted on this
[1:57:53]
resolution but nobody can
[1:57:54]
provide us with the list is of
[1:57:56]
the private green spaces?
[1:57:59]
>> We are not there yet. We have
[1:58:00]
not even -- we just decided to
[1:58:02]
do it two hours ago. Three hours
[1:58:07]
ago. We just decided. We have no
[1:58:08]
idea where we are going.
[1:58:10]
>> But some thoughts, even
[1:58:11]
before October 15th, some
[1:58:13]
thought has been put into this.
[1:58:14]
>> We haven't gotten to this
[1:58:16]
point yet. We are just there
[1:58:18]
now.
[1:58:20]
>> Okay, thank you.
[1:58:21]
>> Thank you. Do we have time,
[1:58:24]
Madam? One more. Murray Scott?
[1:58:27]
>> Three more.
[1:58:29]
>> Nine minutes left.
[1:58:31]
>> Nine.
[1:58:33]
>> Maureen Scott?
[1:58:43]
>> Good evening. I too would
[1:58:45]
like to just add my thanks for
[1:58:49]
what the council has brought
[1:58:51]
this evening, a sign of hope.
[1:58:56]
All my questions have actually
[1:58:57]
been dealt with, the ones I came
[1:59:00]
with and signed up for. I would
[1:59:06]
just add that I never had a
[1:59:08]
chance like the rest of the
[1:59:11]
audience to see the amended
[1:59:14]
resolution before it was
[1:59:17]
presented. And so, that's fine.
[1:59:23]
[Laughter]
[1:59:24]
But it all came like a wave. And
[1:59:27]
I tried to listen carefully to
[1:59:29]
find out everything that was
[1:59:31]
referred to. I think many of the
[1:59:33]
other speakers have brought up
[1:59:36]
the points that came from that
[1:59:40]
second, or that I voted on, the
[1:59:42]
resolution this evening. I will
[1:59:44]
go home and try to sort
[1:59:46]
everything out and learn more
[1:59:47]
about what has been said this
[1:59:49]
evening. And I will just try to
[1:59:51]
do my best to keep up.
[1:59:54]
>> Well, do grab a copy of the
[1:59:56]
resolution.
[1:59:57]
>> The resolution is not on the
[1:59:58]
table.
[1:59:59]
>> It's not on the table?
[2:00:00]
>> No, you spoke to it very
[2:00:03]
fast. I was trying to support
[2:00:05]
everything. I just need to learn
[2:00:06]
about it.
[2:00:08]
>> Okay, we've got to get a copy
[2:00:09]
out there.
[2:00:11]
>> Yes.
[2:00:12]
>> Janet Hannah.
[2:00:19]
>> Thank you. You brought this
[2:00:23]
up before. $25 million, $25
[2:00:28]
million, $25 million for the
[2:00:31]
renovation of a building.
[2:00:35]
Pointe-Claire Public Works. No
[2:00:37]
contract details, no supplies
[2:00:38]
details, and no suppliers
[2:00:40]
details, and no raw materials
[2:00:43]
details, and no labour cost
[2:00:46]
details. Why?
[2:00:48]
>> Can I just interrupt? We had
[2:00:50]
an entire session on that, an
[2:00:51]
entire council meeting on all
[2:00:53]
the details about public works.
[2:00:56]
>> There is nothing that is on
[2:00:57]
the website. We asked for it in
[2:01:00]
June of last year, there was
[2:01:02]
information that was going to be
[2:01:04]
posted on the website and it is
[2:01:06]
not there. We pay federal income
[2:01:10]
tax, provincial income tax, GST,
[2:01:12]
PTSD, Q S T, all the STDs.
[2:01:16]
Property tax, water tax with
[2:01:19]
fluoride in it, God forbid.
[2:01:21]
School tax, welcome tax. Where
[2:01:26]
are all our tax dollars going?
[2:01:29]
Nonprofit organizations,
[2:01:31]
hundreds of thousands of dollars
[2:01:33]
going into a black hole. Who are
[2:01:37]
these organizations? Who works
[2:01:40]
there? What do they do with our
[2:01:42]
money? You, as mayor and
[2:01:47]
councillors, is the car you are
[2:01:49]
driving paid for by us? Do you
[2:01:52]
have an expense account? Do you
[2:01:53]
get bonuses? $25 million,
[2:02:00]
hundreds of thousands of dollars
[2:02:03]
to nonprofit organizations.
[2:02:06]
Hundreds of thousands of dollars
[2:02:07]
for office furniture. Where it
[2:02:10]
is and? Who are you working for?
[2:02:14]
It doesn't look like you are
[2:02:15]
working for us, although you
[2:02:17]
were all elected to work for us,
[2:02:19]
the residents of Pointe-Claire.
[2:02:22]
We are tired of paying taxes and
[2:02:24]
want property taxes, school
[2:02:27]
taxes, water taxes and welcome
[2:02:30]
taxes abolished. All these taxes
[2:02:35]
are a form of slavery, aren't
[2:02:37]
they? We work to give you our
[2:02:40]
money to put into black holes.
[2:02:44]
All this while people starve and
[2:02:46]
have a hard time making ends
[2:02:48]
meet. Then there is the C 40
[2:02:53]
cities program. I suppose you
[2:02:55]
are familiar with that? Of which
[2:02:58]
Montréal has become a part of.
[2:03:01]
That is the idea of the
[2:03:03]
15-minute city. Basically, an
[2:03:05]
open air prison. An open air
[2:03:09]
prison for the residents of
[2:03:12]
Pointe-Claire. You want to
[2:03:14]
implement the 15-minute city,
[2:03:15]
isn't that right? You want to
[2:03:18]
put all the citizens of
[2:03:19]
Pointe-Claire in an open air
[2:03:22]
prison. Right? All of course in
[2:03:25]
the name of the fake climate
[2:03:28]
change agenda.
[2:03:30]
[Laughter]
[2:03:33]
>> If that is the case, when you
[2:03:34]
plant
[2:03:35]
(applause)
[2:03:36]
-- Plan to resign, because you
[2:03:37]
no longer serve the residents of
[2:03:40]
Pointe-Claire? This applies to
[2:03:41]
you, all Mayor and councillors.
[2:03:42]
If you will not reject or back
[2:03:46]
out of the C 40's program, if
[2:03:50]
you will not abolish property
[2:03:52]
taxes, water tax, school tax,
[2:03:54]
welcome tax, then when will you
[2:03:57]
resign? We need a mayor and
[2:04:00]
councillors who will serve the
[2:04:02]
people and work for the people
[2:04:04]
and work for the well-being of
[2:04:06]
the people and the residents of
[2:04:09]
Pointe-Claire. Please don't use
[2:04:11]
climate change as an excuse
[2:04:13]
because that is a big hoax.
[2:04:16]
Thank you.
[2:04:17]
>> Okay. Is there a question in
[2:04:18]
there?
[2:04:19]
>> Yeah, that was a question.
[2:04:20]
>> That's it? Okay. I will refer
[2:04:23]
you -- to answer that, I will
[2:04:25]
start broad and narrow down.
[2:04:29]
Thomas hubs once wrote that
[2:04:32]
without the lion, life would be
[2:04:35]
nasty, brutish and short. And if
[2:04:37]
you know what he means by that,
[2:04:39]
if you don't have good
[2:04:41]
government or nation states, if
[2:04:43]
you don't have an overarching
[2:04:45]
form of redistribution, taxes
[2:04:46]
and services, you have a dog eat
[2:04:49]
dog world where people die
[2:04:51]
quickly at a young age and
[2:04:52]
that's what happens when you
[2:04:53]
don't have the life in. You get
[2:04:56]
lord of the flies. We've seen
[2:04:57]
this over time. You get mad Max.
[2:05:01]
The love I think keeps us safe
[2:05:03]
and alive. And I am answering
[2:05:05]
the question. Your tax dollars
[2:05:07]
goes to the live Ethan. We are
[2:05:08]
the love of thin, so is the
[2:05:10]
provincial and the federal. We
[2:05:12]
look after things get
[2:05:14]
redistributed, things get even
[2:05:16]
back to people. Incredible what
[2:05:19]
Pointe-Claire gives its citizens
[2:05:20]
for its tax. Dollar I'm sitting
[2:05:21]
here and I see. It it's
[2:05:23]
incredible services citizens
[2:05:25]
get. And again -- excuse me,
[2:05:28]
excuse me, I will answer the --
[2:05:31]
excuse me. You can't yell from
[2:05:32]
your chair, okay? You can't
[2:05:34]
speak from your chair. I'm
[2:05:37]
answering your question. You
[2:05:38]
have one follow-up question,
[2:05:40]
okay? One follow-up question.
[2:05:42]
And I'm not finished answering
[2:05:44]
it. The important thing to
[2:05:47]
remember about what we do is
[2:05:50]
that it is the best we can do
[2:05:51]
with the tax dollar that comes
[2:05:53]
in. You get your water, you get
[2:05:55]
your streets, you get the
[2:05:57]
police. That is not municipal.
[2:05:59]
But everything that you get in
[2:06:01]
society that makes your life
[2:06:02]
saint and safe comes from the
[2:06:04]
Laval youth. To say that it is a
[2:06:08]
waste of money is preposterous
[2:06:11]
in my opinion. Non profit
[2:06:16]
organizations as black holes, I
[2:06:18]
go to nonprofit organizations to
[2:06:20]
support them, friends of mental
[2:06:23]
health -- the hearing impaired,
[2:06:29]
hunger, food scarcity. These are
[2:06:32]
people giving from the bottom of
[2:06:34]
their hearts that don't have
[2:06:35]
anything and we, as a government
[2:06:38]
or the City of Pointe-Claire is
[2:06:39]
great doing this, we subsidize
[2:06:41]
these organizations, and I'm
[2:06:44]
proud of the city. This was
[2:06:47]
around long before. Me we look
[2:06:48]
after those groups because they
[2:06:49]
look after the people that fall
[2:06:52]
through the social safety net.
[2:06:54]
And people that fall through the
[2:06:55]
net are in real need of help.
[2:06:58]
How is your health care? Are you
[2:07:00]
always cared for? Do you always
[2:07:01]
get what you need? Is it
[2:07:02]
immediate? Is it quick? Some of
[2:07:05]
these organizations complement
[2:07:07]
and augment and serve people
[2:07:09]
where the state can't cover all
[2:07:12]
what is asked of it. I don't
[2:07:15]
apologize at all for the
[2:07:19]
organizations as a city for
[2:07:20]
subsidizing them. I enact them
[2:07:22]
all the time. I support them for
[2:07:23]
the exact same reason. That's my
[2:07:28]
quick answer. Do you want a
[2:07:30]
subsequent one?
[2:07:33]
[Laughter]
[2:07:34]
No?
[2:07:35]
>> Yes, actually. If people had
[2:07:37]
money in their pockets by not
[2:07:39]
paying as much taxes, as much in
[2:07:42]
taxes as we are paying, these
[2:07:45]
organizations would not exist
[2:07:46]
because there would not be a
[2:07:47]
need for them to exist. And if
[2:07:49]
some of them do need to exist in
[2:07:51]
order to help the population,
[2:07:53]
that should be paid for both by
[2:07:55]
the federal and the municipal
[2:07:57]
governments. And both federal
[2:07:58]
and municipal governments
[2:08:00]
collect enough in income taxes
[2:08:02]
from us to be able to distribute
[2:08:04]
that money instead of it going
[2:08:07]
to illegal migrants or migrants
[2:08:09]
coming in and receiving 20 $400
[2:08:12]
a month.
[2:08:14]
>> You are watching the wrong
[2:08:16]
program. Listen, everybody, I
[2:08:20]
suggest you run for Council. I
[2:08:24]
will just answer quickly. But
[2:08:26]
that's it, I will answer that
[2:08:28]
and we will carry on with the
[2:08:30]
meeting. History has taught us
[2:08:35]
overtime that eventually, we
[2:08:38]
come to revolution when we leave
[2:08:40]
all the money in people's
[2:08:41]
pockets. When money gets left in
[2:08:43]
people's pockets.
[2:08:44]
>> Basically, we are stupid, we
[2:08:46]
can't manage our own money?
[2:08:47]
>> You are done, excuse me.
[2:08:51]
Okay.
[2:08:52]
>> Time is up, Mister Mayor.
[2:08:53]
>> Okay, thank you. I would like
[2:08:54]
to answer, I had one last thing.
[2:08:57]
To Mr. Kelly, Mr. Kelly, I
[2:08:59]
forgot the point I wanted to
[2:09:00]
answer. I went to the gym based
[2:09:03]
school of marrying, the mayor of
[2:09:07]
Pierrefonds. He has always said
[2:09:09]
to get on the ground. You don't
[2:09:11]
need to sit around and have your
[2:09:13]
-- they are incompetent, what to
[2:09:15]
do. You go see what is going on
[2:09:17]
in your city in person and you
[2:09:19]
look after it and you watch it
[2:09:20]
and you go speak to the people
[2:09:22]
themselves. And that is what
[2:09:23]
good mayors do. And good mayors
[2:09:24]
don't sit in an ivory tower.
[2:09:25]
They get out on the ground and
[2:09:27]
see the people. And I learned
[2:09:29]
that from a very good man. And
[2:09:31]
that is the part --. Okay, let's
[2:09:37]
-- 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt
[2:09:38]
d'un projet de règlement
[2:09:39]
modifiant le Règlement PC-2512
[2:09:40]
sur la distribution de matériel
[2:09:41]
publicitaire. Un projet de
[2:09:43]
règlement prévoit une
[2:09:44]
modification afin des référer
[2:09:45]
aux règlements des tarifs pour
[2:09:46]
les frais applicables.
[2:09:52]
>> 5.2 Notice of motion and
[2:09:53]
filing of a draft By-law
[2:09:54]
amending By-law PC2642
[2:09:55]
pertaining to the granting of
[2:09:56]
permits to peddlers and amending
[2:09:57]
By-law PC-2396 regulating
[2:09:58]
various trades and industries.
[2:10:00]
The draft bylaw provides for an
[2:10:02]
amendment to increase the
[2:10:03]
terrasse bylaw for applicable
[2:10:05]
fees. 5.3 Avis de motion et
[2:10:06]
dépôt d'un projet de règlement
[2:10:07]
modifiant le Règlement de zonage
[2:10:08]
PC-2775 dans le but de régir
[2:10:09]
l'aménagement d'une unité
[2:10:11]
d'habitation accessoire aménagée
[2:10:12]
à l'intérieur d'un immeuble
[2:10:13]
résidentiel appartenant à la
[2:10:14]
classe d'usage « A ». Les unités
[2:10:18]
d'habitation accessoires seront
[2:10:19]
permises dans les secteurs
[2:10:20]
résidentiels à faible densité où
[2:10:22]
les habitations unifamiliales
[2:10:24]
détachées et ça m'détaché sont
[2:10:26]
aussi.
[2:10:29]
>> 5.4 Notice of motion and
[2:10:30]
filing of a draft by-law
[2:10:32]
amending Conditional Uses By-law
[2:10:33]
PC-2791 in order to govern
[2:10:35]
accessory dwelling units
[2:10:36]
(ADU)
[2:10:37]
located in residential buildings
[2:10:38]
belonging to class « A » use.
[2:10:39]
This bylaw will be amended to
[2:10:41]
include provisions applicable to
[2:10:42]
the conversion of detached
[2:10:44]
accessory buildings for the
[2:10:46]
addition of a new building to
[2:10:47]
allow the development of an
[2:10:48]
accessory dwelling unit. 5.5
[2:10:49]
Avis de motion et dépôt d'un
[2:10:50]
projet de règlement modifiant le
[2:10:51]
Règlement PC-2787 sur les plans
[2:10:52]
d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:10:54]
architecturale
[2:10:55]
(PIIA)
[2:10:56]
dans le but de régir les unités
[2:10:58]
d'habitation accessoire aménagés
[2:10:59]
à l'intérieur d'immeubles
[2:11:00]
résidentiels appartenant à la
[2:11:01]
classe d'usage « A ». Le
[2:11:03]
règlement sera modifié afin
[2:11:04]
d'inclure des objectifs des
[2:11:06]
critères pour analyse des unités
[2:11:07]
d'habitations intégrées au
[2:11:08]
détaché du bâtiment principal.
[2:11:12]
>> 5.6 Notice of motion and
[2:11:13]
filing of a draft by-law
[2:11:14]
amending Construction By-law
[2:11:15]
PC-2786 in order to govern
[2:11:16]
accessory dwelling units
[2:11:20]
(ADU)
[2:11:21]
located inside residential
[2:11:22]
buildings belonging to class
[2:11:23]
“A†use. This bylaw will be
[2:11:25]
amended to include -- integrated
[2:11:27]
or detached from the main
[2:11:29]
building. 5.7 Avis de motion et
[2:11:30]
dépôt d'un projet de règlement
[2:11:31]
modifiant le règlement de
[2:11:32]
lotissement PC-2774 dans le but
[2:11:33]
de régir les unités d'habitation
[2:11:35]
accessoire aménagés
[2:11:36]
(UHA)
[2:11:38]
à l'intérieur d'immeubles
[2:11:40]
résidentiels appartenant à la
[2:11:41]
classe d'usage « A ». Le
[2:11:42]
règlement sera modifié afin
[2:11:43]
d'interdire toute opération
[2:11:44]
catastrophe dans le but de
[2:11:45]
détacher l'unité d'habitation
[2:11:46]
accessoire de l'immeuble
[2:11:48]
résidentiel. 5,1 à 5,6... 5.9
[2:11:54]
Adoption avec modifications d'un
[2:11:55]
règlement décrétant les tarifs
[2:11:56]
exigibles pour le financement de
[2:11:57]
biens, services et activités
[2:11:58]
offerts par la Ville de
[2:11:59]
Pointe-Claire pour l'exercice
[2:12:00]
financier 2025.
[2:12:01]
>> Brett Cowan, district eight.
[2:12:04]
>>
[2:12:05]
5.8 Adoption without
[2:12:06]
modification of a by-law
[2:12:07]
amending the Village Code,
[2:12:08]
By-law PC-2880, regarding
[2:12:09]
authorized residential use
[2:12:10]
classes as well as the layout of
[2:12:11]
parking spaces required for
[2:12:12]
class B dwellings in UP8. This
[2:12:13]
bylaws to permit duplex type
[2:12:14]
dwellings in the zone.
[2:12:25]
De façon générale, la
[2:12:26]
tarification des biens et
[2:12:27]
services et activités a été
[2:12:29]
augmenté de 3,5%, la
[2:12:31]
tarification pour le non
[2:12:32]
résidentiel était bien en
[2:12:33]
fonction d'un écart de 140% du
[2:12:35]
tarif résidentiel. Les
[2:12:37]
modifications apportées au
[2:12:38]
projet de règlement depuis son
[2:12:39]
dépôt le 5 septembre dernier
[2:12:40]
sont les suivantes: modification
[2:12:42]
du tarif pour la location d'un
[2:12:44]
espaces de stationnement public
[2:12:45]
de 5 à 10 dollars, modification
[2:12:47]
du terme événements spéciaux
[2:12:48]
pour événement nécessitant des
[2:12:50]
ressources de la ville, ajouté
[2:12:51]
une section portant sur les
[2:12:52]
permis pour colporteur, ajouté
[2:12:54]
une section portant sur les
[2:12:55]
permis pour distribution de
[2:12:57]
matériel publicitaire, ajoute de
[2:12:58]
la ligne cinq virgule 7,3 pour
[2:13:01]
les heures supplémentaires,
[2:13:02]
ajoute de la ligne 5,7 virgule
[2:13:05]
5,9, préparation pour la régate,
[2:13:06]
un quart de deux semaines.
[2:13:08]
Retrait de la catégorie et dix à
[2:13:09]
la ligne cinq virgule 8,5. Ajout
[2:13:11]
de la ligne cinq virgule
[2:13:13]
(---)
[2:13:14]
comme Jeunesse de 11 à 14 ans,
[2:13:15]
une fois par semaine. Ajoute des
[2:13:17]
lignes 5,5
[2:13:18]
(---)
[2:13:19]
l'équipe de natation non
[2:13:21]
compétitif résidents et six
[2:13:22]
virgule 5,3 points virgule
[2:13:24]
quatre,
[2:13:25]
(---)
[2:13:26]
pour les non-résidents.
[2:13:30]
>> 5.10 Adoption without
[2:13:31]
modification of a by-law
[2:13:32]
decreeing a long-term borrowing
[2:13:33]
and capital expenditures for
[2:13:34]
works regarding parks, green
[2:13:35]
spaces, shorelines, bike paths
[2:13:36]
and sports fields for a total of
[2:13:37]
$ 1,635,000. More specifically
[2:13:40]
for the construction
[2:13:42]
reconstruction of development
[2:13:43]
and redevelopment and
[2:13:45]
refurbishment's -- retaining
[2:13:46]
walls, drinking fountains,
[2:13:47]
street furniture, playground
[2:13:49]
equipment, bike paths, fences,
[2:13:52]
sports fields, relaxation areas,
[2:13:54]
playgrounds as well as elaborate
[2:13:56]
specifically assigned to these
[2:13:58]
projects at various locations in
[2:14:00]
the residential sector. The
[2:14:01]
amount to be financed will be
[2:14:03]
reimbursed by tax money on the
[2:14:05]
entire municipality based on --
[2:14:08]
over a 20-year period.
[2:14:10]
>> For 5.8 to 5.10, do I have a
[2:14:13]
mover? - Oui, Bruno Tremblay,
[2:14:16]
district six.
[2:14:18]
>> And a seconder?
[2:14:19]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:14:20]
>> All in favour? - Merci! 5.11
[2:14:26]
Adoption sans modification d'un
[2:14:27]
règlement décrétant un emprunt à
[2:14:28]
long terme et une dépense en
[2:14:29]
immobilisations pour des travaux
[2:14:30]
d'infrastructures municipales en
[2:14:31]
divers endroits pour un montant
[2:14:32]
de 2 555 000 $. Travaux de
[2:14:36]
construction reconstruction,
[2:14:37]
réflexions, réhabilitation de
[2:14:38]
trottoirs, bordure, balle de
[2:14:40]
béton services, service de type
[2:14:41]
conduit au, frigo, Santerre
[2:14:44]
pluviales, raccordement de
[2:14:45]
services, Fondation de, rue
[2:14:46]
pavage, sur éclairage routier,
[2:14:48]
travailler travaux connexes à
[2:14:49]
divers endroits ici que la
[2:14:50]
main-d'oeuvre affectées
[2:14:51]
spécifiquement à ces projets. Le
[2:14:52]
montant financier sera
[2:14:53]
remboursée par le biais d'une
[2:14:54]
taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la
[2:14:55]
municipalité sur la base de la
[2:14:56]
valeur foncière. La valeur
[2:14:58]
foncière des immeubles imposants
[2:15:00]
les se sur une période de 20
[2:15:02]
ans... 5.13 Adoption sans
[2:15:04]
modification d'un règlement
[2:15:05]
décrétant un emprunt à long
[2:15:06]
terme et une dépense en
[2:15:07]
immobilisations pour des travaux
[2:15:08]
électriques à divers endroits
[2:15:09]
pour un montant total de 4 855
[2:15:10]
000 $.
[2:15:11]
>> 5.12 Adoption without
[2:15:12]
modification of a by-law
[2:15:13]
decreeing a long-term borrowing
[2:15:14]
and capital expenditures for
[2:15:15]
various works on municipal
[2:15:16]
buildings for a total of $
[2:15:17]
3,690,000. Various works being
[2:15:18]
roofing, foundation envelopes,
[2:15:19]
doors, windows, masonry,
[2:15:20]
balcony, staircases, handrails,
[2:15:21]
paint, ceramic, floor coverings,
[2:15:23]
supply and installation,
[2:15:24]
replacement and upgrading
[2:15:26]
mechanical, electrical HVAC,
[2:15:28]
plumbing, fire protections, --
[2:15:30]
refitting, relayed it works in
[2:15:31]
connection with the asset
[2:15:32]
management plan as well as
[2:15:34]
labour specific -- idea how to
[2:15:36]
be financed will be reimbursed
[2:15:38]
by tax on the entire
[2:15:40]
municipality based on the
[2:15:41]
property value of tax over a
[2:15:43]
20-year period.
[2:15:55]
Travaux de remplacement de
[2:15:57]
réfection d'éclairage, de
[2:15:58]
luminaires qu'offre la
[2:15:59]
circulation mise aux noms qu'on
[2:16:00]
du filage, système de contrôle,
[2:16:02]
système UPS et divers travaux
[2:16:03]
connexes ainsi que la
[2:16:05]
main-d'oeuvre associait ces
[2:16:06]
projets. Le montant financier
[2:16:07]
sera remboursée par le biais
[2:16:08]
d'une taxe imposée à l'ensemble
[2:16:09]
de la municipalité. Sur la base
[2:16:11]
de la valeur foncière des
[2:16:12]
immeubles imposables est et ce
[2:16:13]
sur une période de 20.
[2:16:16]
Pour cinq points 11 à cinq
[2:16:17]
ghetto...
[2:16:18]
>> 5.14 Adoption without
[2:16:19]
modification of a by-law
[2:16:20]
decreeing a long-term borrowing
[2:16:21]
and capital expenditures for
[2:16:22]
professional services and major
[2:16:23]
municipal infrastructure works
[2:16:24]
in various locations for a total
[2:16:26]
amount of $ 6,285,000.
[2:16:29]
Professional services and
[2:16:30]
construction, reconstruction,
[2:16:31]
repair, rehabilitation of
[2:16:33]
sidewalks, concrete slabs,
[2:16:34]
malls, concrete structures,
[2:16:37]
overpasses, services for water
[2:16:39]
mains, sanitary sewer and storms
[2:16:41]
who are. Street foundations,
[2:16:43]
paving, road, lighting related
[2:16:44]
works as well as labour
[2:16:46]
specifically assigned to these
[2:16:47]
projects and -- will be
[2:16:49]
reimbursed by tax money on the
[2:16:50]
entire municipality based on the
[2:16:52]
property value of taxable --
[2:16:54]
over a 20-year period. - Paul
[2:17:01]
Bissonnette, district.
[2:17:05]
>> All in favour? 6.1 Accorder
[2:17:08]
des soutiens financiers à divers
[2:17:09]
organismes sans but lucratif
[2:17:10]
pour un montant total de 63 600
[2:17:11]
$. La Ville accorde un soutien
[2:17:16]
financier non financier à plus
[2:17:17]
de 20 organismes offrant des
[2:17:19]
services sur le territoire de la
[2:17:20]
ville.
[2:17:24]
>> 6.2 Request to the City of
[2:17:26]
Montreal to maintain
[2:17:27]
fluoridation of drinking water.
[2:17:29]
So instead of reading what we
[2:17:31]
prepared, I was requested to
[2:17:32]
read the resolution itself.
[2:17:34]
>> Yes, if you don't mind.
[2:17:35]
>> No problem. As an agreement
[2:17:37]
between the City of
[2:17:38]
Pointe-Claire, the City of
[2:17:39]
Montréal into December -- the
[2:17:41]
transfer of activities related
[2:17:42]
to the operation of the
[2:17:44]
Pointe-Claire drinking water
[2:17:45]
production plant. Whereas this
[2:17:47]
agreement was signed since under
[2:17:49]
article 16 and 19, paragraph,
[2:17:51]
five of the -- municipal powers
[2:17:54]
in service in -- a certain
[2:17:57]
suburb -- and the jurisdiction
[2:17:58]
of the agglomeration whereas the
[2:18:00]
drinking water consumed by the
[2:18:02]
population of Pointe-Claire is
[2:18:03]
produced at the Pointe-Claire
[2:18:04]
filtration plant. Whereas the
[2:18:05]
drinking water produced by the
[2:18:06]
Pointe-Claire and Dorval
[2:18:09]
filtration plants have been
[2:18:10]
fluoride for many decades.
[2:18:11]
Whereas scientific studies on
[2:18:13]
the public health benefits of
[2:18:15]
fluoridation drinking water are
[2:18:16]
widely recognized. Whereas the
[2:18:18]
fluoridation of drinking water
[2:18:19]
is a measure recommended by the
[2:18:22]
-- because it contributes to the
[2:18:24]
populations oral health and
[2:18:26]
reduces social inequities in
[2:18:28]
health. Whereas the City of
[2:18:30]
Montréal plans without any prior
[2:18:32]
public consultations to end
[2:18:33]
water fluoridation by the end of
[2:18:35]
2024, this decision was taken
[2:18:38]
unilaterally without consulting
[2:18:40]
the effected reconstituted city,
[2:18:43]
whereas the decision to stop
[2:18:45]
flow writing of -- fluoride
[2:18:49]
eating, drinking water without
[2:18:50]
consulting citizens -- is an
[2:18:53]
admission of democratic failure
[2:18:55]
in the workings of municipal
[2:18:57]
authorities and the lack of
[2:18:58]
respect for the population.
[2:18:59]
Whereas the City of
[2:19:00]
Pointe-Claire has never
[2:19:01]
expressed the desire to stop
[2:19:03]
floor writing its drinking
[2:19:05]
water. It will be moved and
[2:19:07]
seconded to express import for
[2:19:10]
maintaining fluoridation of
[2:19:11]
drinking water, to ask the City
[2:19:12]
of Montréal to review its
[2:19:13]
decision to stop fluoride eating
[2:19:15]
drinking water, to require the
[2:19:17]
City of Montréal to hold a
[2:19:18]
public consultation to allow
[2:19:20]
considered citizens to express
[2:19:21]
themselves and for this
[2:19:23]
resolution to many people,
[2:19:25]
Valérie Plante of -- executive
[2:19:29]
committee of the City of
[2:19:30]
Montréal, the cowboy,'s
[2:19:33]
executive committee Montréal,
[2:19:34]
Dr. Luc Boileau, -- Dr. midway,
[2:19:39]
for the Montréal region,
[2:19:40]
Cassandra, the minister of
[2:19:41]
Health, Gregory Kelly, MNA for
[2:19:44]
Jacques-Cartier, mayors of
[2:19:45]
reconstituted cities.
[2:19:52]
(---)
[2:19:53]
Le vin descende de 1013
[2:19:54]
concernant le transfert des
[2:19:55]
activités liées à l'exploitation
[2:19:56]
de l'usine de production de
[2:19:57]
potable de Pointe-Claire,
[2:19:59]
attendu que cette convention a
[2:20:00]
été signée puisqu'en vertu des
[2:20:01]
articles 16 et 19, cinquième...
[2:20:03]
paragraphe 5 de la Loi sur
[2:20:05]
l'exercice de certaines
[2:20:06]
compétences municipales dans
[2:20:08]
certaines agglomérations,
[2:20:10]
l'alimentation en eau est en
[2:20:11]
(---)
[2:20:12]
Grosmaire action. L'eau potable
[2:20:13]
consommée par l'application de
[2:20:15]
Pointe-Claire est produite à
[2:20:16]
l'usine de plus de rations de
[2:20:17]
Pointe-Claire. Attendu que l'eau
[2:20:18]
potable produite par les usines
[2:20:19]
de filtration de Pointe-Claire
[2:20:20]
et Dorval
[2:20:22]
(inaudible)
[2:20:23]
depuis de nombreuses décennies.
[2:20:24]
Attendu que les études
[2:20:25]
scientifiques sur les bienfaits
[2:20:26]
de la fluoration de l'eau,
[2:20:28]
potable sur la santé publique
[2:20:30]
sur... soit largement reconnue.
[2:20:31]
Attendu que le fluoration de
[2:20:32]
l'eau potable est une mesure
[2:20:33]
recommandée par la direction
[2:20:35]
régionale de la santé publique.
[2:20:36]
Elle contribue à la santé
[2:20:38]
bucco-dentaire de la population
[2:20:39]
et réduit les inégalités
[2:20:40]
sociales en matière de santé.
[2:20:42]
Rendu... attendu que la Ville de
[2:20:43]
Montréal
[2:20:44]
(---)
[2:20:45]
préalable de mettre fin à la
[2:20:46]
fluoration de l'eau d'ici la fin
[2:20:47]
de l'année 2024. Cette décision
[2:20:48]
a été pris sans consultation
[2:20:51]
auprès des villes reconstituée
[2:20:52]
concernés. Attendu que la
[2:20:53]
décision de cesser la fluoration
[2:20:54]
de l'eau potable sans
[2:20:56]
consultation citoyenne, ni
[2:20:58]
consultation auprès des élus de
[2:20:59]
la Ville de Pointe-Claire est un
[2:21:00]
constat d'échec démocratique du
[2:21:01]
fonctionnement des instances
[2:21:03]
municipales et un manque de
[2:21:04]
respect envers la population.
[2:21:08]
Attendu que la Ville de
[2:21:09]
Pointe-Claire n'a jamais exprimé
[2:21:10]
la volonté de cesser la
[2:21:11]
fluoration de l'eau potable.
[2:21:13]
Très résolu de demander à
[2:21:14]
l'appel de Montréal de réviser
[2:21:15]
sa décision... d'exprimer le
[2:21:17]
soutien au maintien de la
[2:21:18]
fluoration de l'eau potable, de
[2:21:20]
demander à la Ville de Montréal
[2:21:21]
va réviser sa décision de cesser
[2:21:22]
la fluoration de l'eau potable.
[2:21:24]
D'exiger à la Ville de Montréal
[2:21:25]
de tenir une consultation
[2:21:26]
publique afin de permettre aux
[2:21:27]
citoyens concernés de
[2:21:29]
s'exprimer. J'ai une copie de
[2:21:30]
cette résolution soit acheminée
[2:21:31]
à Valérie Plante, mairesse de
[2:21:32]
Montréal.
[2:21:34]
(inaudible)
[2:21:35]
Responsable de l'eau au comité
[2:21:37]
exécutif de la Ville de
[2:21:38]
Montréal. Le grand point,
[2:21:39]
président du comité exécutif,
[2:21:41]
docteur Luc Boileau, directeur
[2:21:42]
national de la santé publique,
[2:21:43]
docteure Milner nos Rouyn,
[2:21:45]
directrice régionale de la santé
[2:21:46]
publique de la région de
[2:21:47]
Montréal, Christian Dubé,
[2:21:48]
ministre de la santé, Gregory
[2:21:50]
Kenny, député de Jacques-Cartier
[2:21:52]
maires et mairesses veulent
[2:21:53]
reconstituer.
[2:21:55]
- Merci madame Thibault et
[2:21:57]
madame
[2:21:58]
(inaudible)
[2:21:59]
. I believe it is my about done
[2:22:00]
of itch.
[2:22:02]
Pour 6,1 à 6,2...
[2:22:07]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:22:09]
>> And a seconder?
[2:22:11]
>> --
[2:22:13]
>> I would like to speak to 6.2.
[2:22:15]
I have some problems with 6.2
[2:22:19]
because it is not doing exactly
[2:22:21]
what the mayor said we were
[2:22:23]
going to do. And that is to ask
[2:22:25]
for a cautionary pause from the
[2:22:27]
City of Montréal while we
[2:22:29]
investigate sanctions, making a
[2:22:30]
statement that we are -- the
[2:22:32]
City has come to a conclusion
[2:22:34]
that ahead of the public
[2:22:36]
consultations, our own public
[2:22:38]
consultations, we should
[2:22:41]
continue the fluoridation. A
[2:22:44]
young man in my district went
[2:22:47]
out the door to door and got
[2:22:49]
2000 signatures to support the
[2:22:52]
notion of seizing fluoridation.
[2:22:55]
I can't ignore that. I will talk
[2:22:57]
about citizen participation,
[2:22:59]
these are 2000 signatures -- not
[2:23:02]
a click on the internet but he
[2:23:04]
actually went door to door to
[2:23:08]
ensure that his process was
[2:23:10]
honest and up and up, I went out
[2:23:12]
with him. I didn't go up to the
[2:23:14]
door with him. I stayed on the
[2:23:16]
street and watched him. I was
[2:23:18]
really surprised at how many
[2:23:19]
people he got yeses. From 2000
[2:23:23]
yeses, he saw 2500 doors. From
[2:23:27]
the sampling I saw, one night,
[2:23:29]
two hours walking with him up
[2:23:31]
and down the street, most people
[2:23:32]
signed his petition. I have a
[2:23:36]
great deal of difficulty that we
[2:23:39]
ignore this petition. The City
[2:23:40]
of Montréal did not ignore. The
[2:23:42]
City of Montréal has been -- has
[2:23:45]
told everybody for seven years
[2:23:48]
now that they are going to shut
[2:23:49]
down the fluoridation as soon as
[2:23:52]
the equipment broke down. This
[2:23:54]
petition that this young man
[2:23:56]
organized from our citizens gave
[2:23:58]
some legitimacy to the City of
[2:23:59]
Montréal, perhaps jumping ahead
[2:24:01]
of that schedule and shedding
[2:24:03]
fluoridation down before they
[2:24:05]
actually had a mechanical
[2:24:08]
problem. They said they were
[2:24:09]
going to do it. But I find that
[2:24:12]
-- I will vote for it because
[2:24:13]
I'm not gonna be the lone voice
[2:24:15]
fighting on the Hill against all
[2:24:16]
my colleagues. I just have some
[2:24:18]
reservations about it. I
[2:24:22]
question that we pass a
[2:24:23]
resolution like this where we
[2:24:26]
make no -- recognition about a
[2:24:28]
petition that's out there. 2000
[2:24:29]
signatures were submitted to the
[2:24:31]
City, each Councillor got it.
[2:24:34]
Plus the city. The names could
[2:24:36]
all be verified and confirmed
[2:24:39]
that they are valid citizens. I
[2:24:41]
just wanted to say that. There
[2:24:43]
is another side. And that I am
[2:24:47]
not very content, let's put it
[2:24:49]
that way, with the way this
[2:24:50]
thing is going in. But not
[2:24:53]
sufficiently to vote against all
[2:24:54]
my colleagues. So I will support
[2:24:55]
this resolution when it comes to
[2:24:57]
a vote momentarily.
[2:24:59]
>> Just to reiterate the
[2:25:00]
position of the ASM and the way
[2:25:03]
I responded to the young man
[2:25:06]
that Councillor Cowan is
[2:25:07]
referring to. We are not
[2:25:09]
scientists. We are not making
[2:25:10]
this decision. We leave this in
[2:25:12]
the hand -- in the hands of
[2:25:14]
science. And we have
[2:25:16]
professionals who know what
[2:25:17]
they're doing -- what they are
[2:25:18]
doing and we are not pro or
[2:25:20]
against. But we maintain the
[2:25:21]
status quo and let's go with the
[2:25:22]
science. That has always been
[2:25:24]
the answer. So, those in favour?
[2:25:26]
>> Mister Mayor, a comment.
[2:25:28]
>> Go ahead.
[2:25:29]
>> In reference to the comment
[2:25:31]
from Mr. Cowan, I'm not offended
[2:25:33]
at all if you were to vote
[2:25:34]
against this. I'm looking at the
[2:25:38]
resolution, from what is saying,
[2:25:39]
I'm considering a resolution and
[2:25:41]
probably will vote for it. But I
[2:25:45]
wouldn't in any way feel that
[2:25:46]
you would be voting against
[2:25:48]
myself or other of our
[2:25:49]
colleagues here based on your
[2:25:51]
interpretation of the proposal
[2:25:55]
that we are looking at. I just
[2:25:56]
wanted to reassure you on that
[2:25:58]
notion.
[2:25:59]
>> Thank you. But I'm more
[2:26:00]
concerned about the way Montréal
[2:26:01]
will interpret this. Not my
[2:26:04]
colleagues.
[2:26:06]
>> Well, we're not alone. It's
[2:26:09]
essentially all the West Island
[2:26:11]
municipalities. Montréal will
[2:26:12]
get a united front on this one.
[2:26:13]
And we are just part of it. And
[2:26:15]
that is the ASM's decision. And
[2:26:17]
for the reason I just -- all
[2:26:19]
those in favour? Against? Okay.
[2:26:29]
7.1 Déposer le procès-verbal de
[2:26:30]
la réunion du 4 septembre 2024
[2:26:31]
du Comité consultatif jeunesse.
[2:26:35]
>> 7.2 File the minutes of the
[2:26:36]
September 26, 2024, meeting of
[2:26:37]
the Pointe-Claire Public Library
[2:26:38]
Advisory Board.
[2:26:39]
7.3 Déposer et approuver le
[2:26:40]
procès-verbal de la réunion du
[2:26:41]
comité de circulation du 8
[2:26:42]
octobre 2024. Excusez-moi, c'est
[2:26:44]
écrit dans l'agenda déposé et
[2:26:45]
approuvé. On devrait lire
[2:26:47]
uniquement déposé. Déposer le
[2:26:49]
procès-verbal de la réunion du
[2:26:50]
comité de circulation du 8
[2:26:51]
octobre 2024. >> In English,
[2:26:56]
file and not approved. Just file
[2:26:57]
the minutes of the meeting on
[2:26:59]
October 8th, 2024.
[2:27:04]
>> 7.4 Appoint a member to the
[2:27:06]
Board of Directors of the
[2:27:07]
Pointe-Claire Canoe Kayak Club
[2:27:08]
Inc. Monsieur Jacques Christophe
[2:27:10]
Poitiers... oh
[2:27:11]
10.1 Déposer la liste des
[2:27:12]
amendements budgétaires et le
[2:27:13]
registre des chèques pour la
[2:27:14]
période du 23 septembre 2024 au
[2:27:15]
25 octobre 2024. Is appointed
[2:27:16]
for a three-year mandate.
[2:27:17]
>> 7.4, do I have a mover?
[2:27:18]
>> Paul Bissonnette, district.
[2:27:19]
To
[2:27:20]
>> A seconder?
[2:27:21]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:27:22]
>> All in favour?
[2:27:32]
>> 10.2 File the comparative
[2:27:34]
financial statement and
[2:27:35]
projected statement. The
[2:27:36]
comparative financial statements
[2:27:37]
as of -- as well as the
[2:27:39]
projected statements as of
[2:27:40]
December 31st, 2024.
[2:27:42]
10.3 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:27:43]
l'acquisition des licences pour
[2:27:44]
les logiciels Abnormal Security,
[2:27:46]
à ITI INC., Pour un montant
[2:27:47]
total de 98 868,44 $, taxes
[2:27:50]
incluses.
[2:27:59]
Détecter... arrêtent l'ensemble
[2:28:01]
des. Attaques
[2:28:02]
(---)
[2:28:03]
la boutonnage du dandinait, en
[2:28:04]
compromission de la messages
[2:28:05]
d'entreprises, fraude à la
[2:28:07]
facture de fournisseur, etc....
[2:28:08]
Pour 10,3 10,4... 11.1 Approuver
[2:28:09]
le calendrier des séances
[2:28:10]
ordinaires du conseil pour
[2:28:11]
l'année 2025. >> 10.4 Award a
[2:28:12]
contract for annual support and
[2:28:13]
maintenance of Kronos equipment
[2:28:14]
and software
[2:28:15]
(IP240018)
[2:28:16]
, to KRONOS CANADIAN SYSTEMS
[2:28:17]
INC.
[2:28:18]
(UKG)
[2:28:19]
, For a total amount of $
[2:28:21]
50,703.49, taxes included. Gross
[2:28:24]
is the software that manages
[2:28:26]
working hours for all of city
[2:28:28]
employees. Do I have a mover?
[2:28:33]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:28:35]
district three.
[2:28:36]
>> And a seconder?
[2:28:37]
>> Tara Stainforth, district
[2:28:38]
four.
[2:28:39]
>> All in favour?
[2:28:46]
>> For 11 point, when do I have
[2:28:47]
a mover?
[2:28:48]
Bruno Tremblay, district six. >>
[2:28:50]
And a seconder?
[2:28:51]
Claude Cousineau, district un.
[2:28:54]
>> All in favour?
[2:28:59]
>> 12.1 File the list of
[2:29:00]
delegated staff changes for the
[2:29:01]
month of November 2024. 12.2
[2:29:04]
Approuver la liste des
[2:29:05]
changements au personnel par
[2:29:06]
décisions non déléguées au 5
[2:29:07]
novembre 2024.
[2:29:11]
>> For 12.2, do I have a mover?
[2:29:13]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:29:14]
>> And he seconder?
[2:29:16]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:29:18]
>> All in favour?
[2:29:25]
>> 14.1 Exercise the renewal
[2:29:27]
option provided for in the
[2:29:28]
contract entered into with FOCUS
[2:29:29]
BY TELUS COMMUNICATIONS INC.,
[2:29:30]
For the years 2025 and 2026, in
[2:29:31]
the amount of $ 143,703.68,
[2:29:34]
taxes included for the purchase
[2:29:36]
and the implementation of a
[2:29:39]
telemetry
[2:29:40]
(GPS)
[2:29:41]
system for fleet management and
[2:29:42]
for the acquisition and
[2:29:45]
implantation of a fuel
[2:29:46]
management system. 14.2 Se
[2:29:47]
prévaloir de l'option de
[2:29:48]
renouvellement prévue au contrat
[2:29:49]
intervenu avec SIMO MANAGEMENT
[2:29:50]
INC. Et AQUA DATA INC., Pour
[2:29:51]
l'année 2025, au montant de 146
[2:29:52]
581,52 $, taxes incluses, pour
[2:29:53]
le diagnostic du réseau
[2:29:54]
d'aqueduc et la mise à jour du
[2:29:57]
programme de rinçage
[2:29:58]
unidirectionnel. Dans le but de
[2:30:03]
planifie la mise à niveau et la
[2:30:05]
gestion des composantes du
[2:30:06]
réseau d'eau potable, les
[2:30:07]
services des Travaux publics et
[2:30:09]
(inaudible)
[2:30:10]
mandate de films spécialisés
[2:30:12]
pour effectuer le diagnostic du
[2:30:13]
réseau d'aqueduc. L'inspection
[2:30:15]
des poteaux d'incendie et
[2:30:17]
d'exécution du programme de
[2:30:18]
Reyes rinçage une directionnelle
[2:30:20]
ainsi que la mise à jour des
[2:30:21]
informations recueillies lors du
[2:30:22]
diagnostic du réseau d'aqueduc
[2:30:24]
dans la base de données.
[2:30:28]
>> 14.3 Exercise the renewal
[2:30:29]
option provided for in the
[2:30:30]
contract entered into with KSG
[2:30:31]
INC., For the year 2025, in the
[2:30:32]
amount of $ 48 806,89, taxes
[2:30:36]
included for fencing repair
[2:30:37]
works on the territory of the
[2:30:39]
City of Pointe-Claire the
[2:30:41]
contract will re-cover the
[2:30:43]
repair of various types of
[2:30:45]
existing fences and the
[2:30:46]
installation of new fences
[2:30:47]
within the city. Pour 14,1
[2:30:49]
14,3... 14.4 Se prévaloir de
[2:30:51]
l'option de renouvellement
[2:30:52]
prévue au contrat intervenu avec
[2:30:53]
TECH-MIX, UNE DIVISION DE BAUVAL
[2:30:54]
INC. Do I have a mover?
[2:30:55]
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[2:30:56]
>> Seconder?
[2:30:57]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:30:58]
>> All in favour?
[2:31:03]
, Pour l'année 2025, au montant
[2:31:05]
de 68 525,10 $, taxes incluses,
[2:31:08]
pour la fourniture et la
[2:31:09]
livraison sur demande de
[2:31:11]
l'asphalte tiède à viscosité
[2:31:12]
élevée incluant le polymère pour
[2:31:15]
utilisation hivernale. Durant
[2:31:17]
les périodes hivernales et
[2:31:18]
lorsque l'asphalte chaude n'est
[2:31:19]
pas disponible, l'asphalte tiède
[2:31:21]
est utilisée dans les travaux de
[2:31:23]
réparation des briques Atkins,
[2:31:24]
ni des poules et d'entretien de
[2:31:26]
la surface déchausser.
[2:31:30]
>> 14.5 Exercise the renewal
[2:31:31]
option provided for in the
[2:31:32]
contract entered into with COLAS
[2:31:34]
(formerly MELOCHE, DIVISION DE
[2:31:35]
SINTRA)
[2:31:36]
, for the year 2025, in the
[2:31:37]
amount of $ 166,403.89, taxes
[2:31:42]
included for the supply and the
[2:31:43]
delivery of various types of
[2:31:44]
stones. These types of stones
[2:31:47]
are required for maintenance
[2:31:49]
work on the cities
[2:31:50]
infrastructures.
[2:31:51]
14.6 Se prévaloir de l'option de
[2:31:52]
renouvellement prévue au contrat
[2:31:53]
intervenu avec TERRASSEMENT
[2:31:54]
TECHNIQue SYLVAIN LABRECQue INC.
[2:31:55]
, Pour l'année 2025, au montant
[2:31:57]
de 266 454,56 $, taxes incluses,
[2:31:58]
pour les travaux de plantation
[2:32:00]
et d'entretien d'arbres. Les
[2:32:05]
travaux consistent à effectuer
[2:32:06]
la plantation et l'entretien
[2:32:07]
d'armes de calibre, 40, 50
[2:32:10]
millimètres pour une quantité
[2:32:11]
approximative de 650 arbres, le
[2:32:13]
long des rues, dans les parcs et
[2:32:14]
espaces verts et des boisés
[2:32:15]
naturels. Ce contrat comprend
[2:32:17]
une garantie ainsi que les
[2:32:19]
travaux d'arrosage et
[2:32:20]
d'entretien d'une durée de 200.
[2:32:25]
>> 14.7 Exercise the renewal
[2:32:26]
option provided for in the
[2:32:27]
contract entered into with
[2:32:28]
ROXBORO EXCAVATION INC., For the
[2:32:29]
year 2025, in the amount of $
[2:32:33]
552,796.93, taxes included for
[2:32:37]
the disposal of dry and
[2:32:38]
excavated materials. The public
[2:32:39]
works and buildings department
[2:32:40]
is responsible for disposing of
[2:32:42]
dry materials, excavated
[2:32:44]
materials and residues from
[2:32:45]
mechanical street sweeping
[2:32:46]
within the city. Dry and
[2:32:48]
excavate materials come from
[2:32:49]
repairs to aqueducts -- and
[2:32:51]
pavement maintenance. Pour 14,4
[2:32:55]
à 14,7... 14.8 Octroyer un
[2:32:57]
contrat pour la fourniture et la
[2:32:58]
livraison de chlorure de sodium
[2:32:59]
(sel traité de déglaçage des
[2:33:00]
chaussées)
[2:33:01]
pour 2024 à CARGILL SEL,
[2:33:02]
SéCURITé ROUTIèRE, UNE DIVISION
[2:33:03]
DE CARGILL LTéE pour un montant
[2:33:04]
total de 1 127 950,74 $, taxes
[2:33:05]
incluses. Do I have a mover?
[2:33:06]
>> Sorry, Eric Stork, district
[2:33:07]
seven.
[2:33:08]
>> And a seconder?
[2:33:09]
>> Tara Stainforth.
[2:33:10]
>> All in favour?
[2:33:26]
C'est contre-attaque trois et
[2:33:27]
dans le cas de l'entente que la
[2:33:29]
Ville de Pointe-Claire a conclu
[2:33:30]
avec la Ville de Montréal et les
[2:33:31]
autres villes liées. La
[2:33:33]
Regroupement permet une économie
[2:33:34]
en raison du volume
[2:33:35]
(inaudible)
[2:33:36]
et du fait d'éviter les
[2:33:37]
procédures appel d'offres lancé
[2:33:38]
par avec le point. >> 14.9
[2:33:42]
Approve a change order to the
[2:33:43]
contract entered into with
[2:33:44]
BIO-CONTRÔLE ARBORICOLE INC.
[2:33:45]
, For buckthorn eradication
[2:33:47]
works in the Tony Proudfoot
[2:33:48]
woodland, for an amount of $
[2:33:51]
11,328.72, taxes included. The
[2:33:54]
changes required to allow the
[2:33:55]
clearing of a specific area near
[2:33:57]
the -- planting of the area for
[2:33:59]
the year 2024. 14.10 Approuver
[2:34:01]
une modification au contrat
[2:34:02]
intervenu avec SERVICES D'ARBRES
[2:34:03]
PRIMEAU INC. Pour des travaux
[2:34:04]
d'arboriculture, pour un montant
[2:34:05]
de 34 492,50 $, taxes incluses.
[2:34:09]
La modification comptera est
[2:34:11]
dans le but d'accélérer le
[2:34:13]
calendrier d'élagage et
[2:34:15]
l'abattage, afin de permettre de
[2:34:16]
façon proactive d'atténuer les
[2:34:18]
risques et de mieux préparer les
[2:34:19]
arbres à résister aux événements
[2:34:21]
extrêmes.
[2:34:23]
Pour 14,8 à 14,10...
[2:34:26]
Do I have a mover?
[2:34:27]
>> Tariffs in fourth, district
[2:34:29]
four.
[2:34:30]
- Merci! >> A seconder?
[2:34:31]
>> But in a timely, district
[2:34:33]
six. All
[2:34:34]
>> In favour?
[2:34:41]
>> 15.1 Award a contract for the
[2:34:42]
purchase of new office furniture
[2:34:43]
for the Public Works Department,
[2:34:44]
to OBURO
[2:34:46]
(9497-3351 QUÉBEC INC.)
[2:34:47]
, for a total amount of $
[2:34:48]
460,442.66, taxes included. This
[2:34:51]
contract is for the purchase of
[2:34:53]
new office furniture for the
[2:34:55]
public sport department --. 15.2
[2:35:02]
Octroyer un contrat pour le
[2:35:03]
service de déneigement,
[2:35:04]
d'entretien et de réparation des
[2:35:05]
toitures, à FERBLANTERIE LUCIEN
[2:35:08]
ST-ONGE LTéE, pour un montant
[2:35:09]
total de 97 098,46 $, taxes
[2:35:10]
incluses.
[2:35:16]
>> 15.3 Approve a change order
[2:35:18]
to the contract entered into
[2:35:19]
with CONSTRUCTION CPB INC., For
[2:35:20]
the extension and renovation of
[2:35:23]
Public Works, for an amount of $
[2:35:24]
70,918.57, taxes included. 34
[2:35:29]
change orders concerning
[2:35:30]
building mechanic, structural
[2:35:31]
electricity and architecture.
[2:35:33]
15.4 Approuver une modification
[2:35:34]
au contrat intervenu avec PRISME
[2:35:35]
ARCHITECTURE, pour des services
[2:35:36]
professionnels pour le
[2:35:38]
réaménagement et
[2:35:39]
l'agrandissement du bâtiment des
[2:35:40]
travaux publics, pour un montant
[2:35:41]
de 51 998,12 $, taxes incluses.
[2:35:45]
La modification est avec le
[2:35:47]
changement des règles sur la
[2:35:49]
traçabilité des sols contaminés
[2:35:52]
qui a été modifiée par le
[2:35:53]
gouvernement du Québec après que
[2:35:55]
le concept des travaux aient été
[2:35:57]
finalisés.
[2:36:01]
>> 15.5 Approve a change order
[2:36:02]
to the contract entered into
[2:36:03]
with GROUPE CIRTECH INC., For
[2:36:04]
roofing works at Cedar and Ovide
[2:36:05]
park chalets, for an amount of $
[2:36:07]
2 496.92, taxes included. The
[2:36:11]
modification involves relocating
[2:36:12]
the mass of the existing
[2:36:14]
lamppost to completely
[2:36:16]
waterproofing and the roof --.
[2:36:18]
15.6 Approuver une modification
[2:36:19]
au contrat intervenu avec LES
[2:36:20]
ENTREPRISES VERRECCHIA INC.,
[2:36:21]
Pour la réfection des vestiaires
[2:36:22]
de l'Aréna BobBirnie, pour un
[2:36:24]
montant de 26 785,72 $, taxes
[2:36:25]
incluses.
[2:36:31]
Pas... pour faire le ménage des
[2:36:33]
murs et l'enlèvement de
[2:36:34]
peinturer cahier, tels que
[2:36:35]
nécessaire pour la nouvelle
[2:36:37]
peinture. Les changements
[2:36:39]
d'ancrage des banques pour
[2:36:41]
ancrage réussit avec 6 livres.
[2:36:47]
Pour 15,1 qu'ils virgule... six
[2:36:48]
15,1, 15,3 à 15,4, je vais voter
[2:36:49]
contre. Do I have a mover?
[2:36:50]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:36:52]
>> And a seconder?
[2:36:53]
>> Paul Bissonnette, district
[2:36:55]
two.
[2:36:56]
>> All in favour? Excuse me, Mr.
[2:36:59]
Kusie.
[2:37:06]
Encore une fois, les dépenses
[2:37:11]
sur le building et des Travaux
[2:37:16]
publics, déjà là, ils sont plus
[2:37:21]
1,1 million. Pour cette raison,
[2:37:23]
je vote contre 15 virgule, un
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15,3 15 virgule. Quatre
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- C'est bien noté!
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- C'est raté! If you want to
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finish the vote for the other
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councillors.
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>> Okay, all in favour?
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>> Thank you.
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>>
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16.1 Approve a change order to
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the contract entered into with
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LE GROUPE LML LTÉE, for
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lighting of the Reading Garden,
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for an amount of $ 2,523.55,
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taxes included. It's for the
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installation of a custom-made
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play to protect the pipe during
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the winter period. 16.2
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Approuver une modification au
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contrat intervenu avec LES
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ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC., Pour la
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construction d'un sentier
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polyvalent entre les avenues
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Alston et Stillview
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(piste cyclable Brigadoon)
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, pour un montant de 18 199,39
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$, taxes incluses.
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Trois arbres, tout ce qu'on dit
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à maître des températures suite
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à l'évaluation de leurs
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conditions par une ferme
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externe. En raison de leurs
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pauvres conditions structural et
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leur proximité au réseau
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d'Hydro-Québec, les arbres ont
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été abattus par une entreprise
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spécialisée.
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>> 16.3 Approve a change order
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to the contract entered into
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with TROICÉ CONSTRUCTION INC.,
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For the construction of an
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accessible sanitary building at
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Tony-Proudfoot Park, for an
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amount of $ 2,568.35, taxes
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included. There are three
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changes to the contract. It is a
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supply and installation of a hot
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water tank. Supply installation
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of fireproof wood panels for the
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alarm systems in the mechanical.
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Room in the supply and
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installation of an accessory for
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filling water bottles --. Pour
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16,1 16,3 Do I have a mover?
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>> Eric Stork, district. Seven
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>> And a seconder?
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>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
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district three.
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>> All in favour? Les personnes
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présentes peuvent s'adresser au
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Conseil concernant les 17,1
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17,2. Deux dérogations mineures.
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Alors, poursuivons. 17.1
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Considérer une demande de
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dérogation mineure concernant la
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propriété située au 160, avenue
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Labrosse. Pour permettre 1 heure
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de stationnement situé en marge
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avant là où il n'est pas permis.
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Des, avec 31 cas de
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stationnement plutôt que le
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minimum requis de 134. Avec 0%
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dameuse... d'aménagement
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paysager pour que le minimum
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requis de 10% de cette
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superficie. Ne comprendra pas un
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(---)
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ou une bande séparatiste
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gazonnée d'une largeur minimale
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de 2 mètres tel que requis. Le
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comité consultatif d'urbanisme
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recommande au Conseil de refuser
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cette demande.
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- Pour 17,1,
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Merci! Do I have a mover? I move
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that the minor exemption request
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be refused. Brent Cowan,
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district eight.
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>> And a seconder?
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>> Tara Stainforth, district
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four.
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>> All in favour?
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>> 17.2 Consider a minor
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exemption request concerning the
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property situated at 123 De
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Newton Square Avenue.
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It is to permit a garage with an
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eastside setback of zero metres
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rather than the minimum required
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of one metre.
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>> For 17.2, do I have a mover?
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>> I move the minor exemption
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requests at 17.2 be approved.
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>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
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>> And seconder?
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>> There are Stainforth,
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district one.
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>> All in favour?
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>> 17.4 Consider the site
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planning and architectural
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integration programme plans with
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respect to the property situated
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at 163 De Dieppe Avenue. It is
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four new construction of a two
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storey detached single family
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home. 17.5 Considérer les plans
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d'implantation et d'intégration
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architecturale relatifs à la
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propriété située au 136, avenue
[2:41:22]
Duke-of-Kent. Pour un
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agrandissement du deuxième étage
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en ajoutant trois lucarne sur la
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façade avant une lucarne a
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pignon à l'arrière. Et une
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construction d'un nouveau toit
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de Porsche. Pour 17,3 à 17,5...
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Do I have a mover?
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>> Paul Bissonnette, district
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two.
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>> And seconder?
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>> Claude Cousineau, district
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one.
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>> All in favour? - Merci!
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It is a resolution respecting
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intellectual freedom in public
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libraries, in Québec and
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elsewhere, -- censorship, is
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friction or judgments can raise
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fears for the future and the
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fundamental mission of our
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cultural institutions. That's
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why the -- also known as a B PQ
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and the -- also known as BIA and
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Q, supported by the -- half
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repaired and propose this
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resolution to recognize the
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importance of our libraries
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essential role in respecting
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intellectual freedom.
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Oui 19,1, résolution visant à
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rétablir une approche claire
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pour envisager l'avenir des
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espaces verts privée par la
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participation du public un
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processus de consultation.
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>> For 18.1, do I have a mover?
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>> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
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>> And a seconder?
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>> Cynthia Highland, district
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five.
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>> All in favour?
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- Privées et publiques, je
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pense.
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- Non, c'est juste privée?
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- Privé.
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- Pour 19,1,
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And I have a mover?
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>> Eric Stork, district seven.
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>> And seconder?
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>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
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district three.
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>> All in favour?
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>> There is something I would
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like to address. First of all, I
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would like to congratulate Eric
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Stork on his work on putting
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through this resolution. I would
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also like to congratulate all of
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us to -- figuring out a way to
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make a resolution that we can
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all, I hope, support and pass.
[2:43:19]
>> For 19.1 --. Excuse-moi
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Claude.
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- Votre micro, s'il vous plaît.
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- En caucus, on a discuté et
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puis il manque un point
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important là-dedans. Ça fait
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longtemps que je le dis. On ne
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sait même pas comment que les
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consultations vont être faites.
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Ça doit être réparé avant que
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j'approuve cette excellente
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résolution. Mais, on n'a pas un
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plan pour tenir des
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consultations publiques, alors
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je vais voter contre.
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- On va faire le vote
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(inaudible)
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>> All in favour? All opposed?
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Closure? Do I have a mover?
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>> There are Stainforth,
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district four.
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>> And seconder?
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>> Brandon Allen, district
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eight.
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>> All in favour? Merci! Merci
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tout le. Monde
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Thank you, folks, for not
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watching the American election
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and exercising your democratic
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choice. Much better here.