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Il y en a deux. Je crois. Non. Merci. Mesdames,
Messieurs, Bonsoir.
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>> Oui, Mesdames et Messieurs. Bonsoir. On
va commencer. We'll start with Councilmembers.
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Report Council. Karen. Bonjour tout le monde!
J'ai assisté. >> À plusieurs événements
du
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jour de Pointe-Claire. Deux exactement et le
premier était l'un des internationals cuisine
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That was a great success I enjoyed myself.
It's great to see all the different but that's
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the small business that were showing off there
were the dancers. It was just a great
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time. Et le deuxième, c'était le. C'était
quoi? C'était le rendez vous des To where
I would
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go to show off my cute little mini dutch and
so that was a very enjoyable and the last
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thing that I would like to since you're all
here to point out is when you leave eventually
you
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will go through the foyer downstairs and have
a look at the exhibit and the history of
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local democracy here and there and have a good
look at the time. The ceremonial chain of
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office, which was i looked at its very impressive.
It was a centennial gift given to the
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city in sixty seven by the chevalier, the globe
and the links on the chain are for the
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links and each link was is the crest representation
of some organizations within the
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institution within the city for example the
Rotary club, The club the Army. Cadets or the
air
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cadets those kinds of groups. I think the symbolism
of that of the relationship between all
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these organizations and my government is very
powerful and it's really nice looking to have
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a look at it. >> Conseille Cousineau. >> Nothing
special except.
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>> That I will I will speak on item 6.3. Thank
you. >> Stanford. Bissonnette.
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>> Good evening. Bonsoir. I just to the construction
and life is going very well. They have a
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thanks to accommodate the people the contractor
the fantastic use water and now I knew substances
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to keep the dust down and so it's going along
very well and the parc Lansdowne Park is open
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now finally, except for the five two of five.
I think it is but now, that's it. Thank you.
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>> Before, I don't have the name of the period.
Council warming. >> Good evening. Bonsoir tout
le
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monde. It's nice to see some very new faces
to the council. So I hope that you'll learn
some
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new things and what happens at the council
meeting. I want to let you know because I know
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there are people here who are concerned about
what the city is doing this is what happened
on
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July thirteenth. There is going to be a information
center of session on September the temps.
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If you go online you have to register because
we have to know how many people are going to
be
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there because it could be enlarged numbers
and if we need to get a larger space we will
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right now. It's been targeted for the best
of one nautical center and it's going to be
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September the starting at seven PM. So I encourage
you to come there was gonna be a wonderful
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presentation on situation that are happening
and there will be there that can help answer
your
[4:22]
questions so I really hope you as many people
as possible we'll show up for that it's september
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and if you go online. You can register, that's
all I have to say.
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>> Conseillé Tremblay. Cancer. Stade Colon.
>> Thank you and thank you for
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mentioning the flooding session that will take
place I've seen it along too many of those
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concerned and why because I also received many
concerns I didn't want to give and updates
that is
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about it, but I've been receiving quite a few
questions about the old post office. So
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I'll just need you a little infolettre that
I used for Charles avenue. Just because
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many people would like to have this information
so. Quelques résidents de notre communauté
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ont contacté moi pour poser des questions
sur le développement de l'ancien site de Postes
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Canada. Le site deviendra une épicerie pis
c'est une épicerie. Il y a beaucoup de bonnes
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informations de l'épicerie. Le site n'augmentera
pas en hauteur mais restera à sa hauteur
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actuelle. Il y a quelques changements à l'extérieur,
de sorte qu'ils doivent être
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effectués pour faciliter la transformation
de cette épicerie. Et il y a aussi des
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changements pour les sentiers pédestres. Mais.
Il y a un sentier piétonnier de
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remplacement sera installé conformément pour
faciliter tous les accès à la traîne et
le
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village de Valois, etc. So just highlight in
English that quite a few residents have reach
out
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about the old previous post site and I did
this summary to those living close to the sight
that
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had questions and had reach out to me on the
side, we'll be becoming a grocery store and
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I've heard a lot of great information that
it's a wonderful grocery store to have
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in our community the site will not be increasing
and if that we're remain at the existing
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right there are Fiou, Fiou site change on the
exterior that need to care to facilitate the
site
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becoming the grocery store and there will also
be some change to the pedestrian pad but the
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replacement walking path will be installed
to make sure that there is access into the
village
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and into the train as many people walk through
that sight so I thought that we're just be
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good to share as there many questions and if
you have any concern contact me directly so
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Thank you. >> Thank you. Mesdames, Messieurs,
bonsoir! Bienvenue à
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la séance ordinaire du pluies abondantes.
Certains citoyens et citoyennes et infrastructures
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municipales ont été éprouvés par les pluies
abondantes survenus le 13 juillet dernier.
Lors de
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cette journée, ce sont plus de 70 à 100 mm
de pluie qui sont tombés, dont 57 mm en seulement
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1 h. Ces quantités représentent un événement
de pluie centennale. Veuillez noter que
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les équipes suivent les prévisions météorologiques
de près en tout temps et ajustent
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les opérations en conséquence. Les secteurs
sensibles du réseau de la ville sont connus
et sont
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inspectés régulièrement avant, durant et
après des événements météorologiques.
De plus, lors
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d'épisodes de pluie, nos équipes effectuent
des vérifications en amont et des interventions
si
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nécessaire, dans les secteurs les plus sensibles.
Ils se déplaceront rapidement dans les
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secteurs les plus touchés. Lorsqu'un événement
arrive, tel que ceux du 13 juillet dernier
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pour intervenir sur les infrastructures concernées.
En plus, dès que des pluies plus
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importantes ont lieu, nous effectuons une analyse
approfondie du réseau
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d'évacuation des eaux pluviales. Nous remercions
toutes celles et ceux qui ont déjà pris le
temps
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de nous faire part de leurs préoccupations
et observations sur les événements. Nous
sommes
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conscients des impacts que ces événements
météorologiques extrêmes peuvent avoir sur
les
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résidences et les infrastructures locales.
Nos équipes techniques analysent les
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causes et évaluent des options d'intervention
afin d'accroître la résilience de notre
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territoire. De tels phénomènes climatiques,
qui autrefois étaient exceptionnels, sont
de
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plus en plus fréquents avec les changements
climatiques. Unfortunately, Bien que cet
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événement affecte l'ensemble de notre territoire,
soyez assurés que chaque situation qui nous
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est soumise est étudiée afin d'en relever
les particularités. Pour en savoir plus plus
le
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sujet, nous invitons Comme c'était à 12 h,
nous invitons toutes les citoyennes et les
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citoyens à la conférence Résilience climatique
et précipitations abondantes qui se
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tiendra le mercredi 10 septembre de 19 h à
21 h au Centre nautique Baie de Valois. Cette
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conférence axée sur la résilience climatique
face aux précipitations importantes, sera
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offert par les experts Marcel Gruau et Caleb
Marie de l'organisation. GFS à. J'aurais
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pas. Il s'agit d'une conférence qui a été
offerte dans d'autres municipalités et bien
apprécié
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des participants. Il est important, il est
important de réserver votre place. Vous
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trouverez le formulaire d'inscription en ligne
sur le site web de la ville. Depuis
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plusieurs années, nous intégrons des solutions
durables dans l'élaboration de nos projets
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pour minimiser les impacts des changements
climatiques. Pour nommer que quelques exemples
En
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2017 un bassin, un bassin de rétention a été
implanté sur la piste cyclable du boulevard
IM
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20 21 jardin de pluie a été créé au parc
Belmont en 20 25. Un saillies drainant a intégré
dans
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l'aménagement de l'avenue Winthrop. Prochainement,
nous nous partagerons la liste de
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l'ensemble des infrastructures vertes sur le
site de la ville. La ville poursuivra ces
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initiatives afin de rendre le territoire toujours
plus résilient. Actuellement,
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actuellement, nous étudions et élaborons
un nouveau plan de gestion des eaux pluviales
afin
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de prioriser et d'intégrer plus de mesures
de mitigation durable pouvant bénéficier
à l'ensemble
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du territoire. Pour approfondir nos analyses
post-événement, nous invitons les personnes
qui
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ont été touchées à remplir un formulaire
pour nous partager leurs informations. Ces
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informations nous permettront d'ajouter ces
éléments aux études déjà en cours. Vous
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trouverez le lien du formulaire dans la section
Actualités sur le site web. Certaine residence
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and some of our municipal infrastructure were
affected by the heavy rain fall of July
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thirteenth on that day between two and a hundred
millimeters of rain, including fifty seven
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millimeters and just one our these quantity
representing hundred years rainfall event and
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unfortunately the second hundred years rainfall
event in two years our teams closely monitor
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weather forecast at all time and adjust operations
as needed the sensitive areas of the city
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infrastructures are well known and regular
inspections are performed before during and
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after weather events in addition when precipitation
is anticipated the most vulnerable
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drainage zone are inspectors by our teams and
clean and if necessary which is what we did
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particularly with glennon, which is our well-known
when event occur similar to that of july
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thirteenth. WE will quickly moved to the infrastructure
most affected. WE would like to thank
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everyone is already taking time to share their
concerns en observation with us about the
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situation and the situation. They are we are
very aware of the impact that these extremes
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weather events can have on local home and infrastructure
our technical teams are analyzing
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the evaluating intervention to make our territory
more résilientes climatiques
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Phenomena such as these which used to be the
exception our becoming increasingly frequent
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as the climate change and we have pretty good
evidence of that today. I'll do this event
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effect the theory of our territory rest assured
that each situation submitted to us is
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examined in order to identify its specific
caractéristiques to learn more about this
topic all
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residents are invited to the climate resilience
and heavy rainfall lecture in the web
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nautical Center on Wednesday, September 30.
From seven to npm this lecture focusing on
climate
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resilience and the face of significant precipitation
will be presented by Marcel Roy and
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Khaled Marie experts from the gfca organization.
This lecture has been offered in other
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municipality where it is received positive
feedback from the participants involved it
is
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important to reserve your spot using the online
registration form on the city website for
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several years now we have been integrating
sustainable solutions. It to our project
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development to the impact of climate change
tout name a few examples in two thousand
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seventeen or retention basin was installed
under the bicycle path on im boulevard and
two thousand
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twenty one red garden was created in belmont
park and two thousand twenty five a drainage
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ledge was integrated into the winthrop avenue
Landscaping Green infrastructure projects
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used in intersection across North America.
Now there's starting to use it more and more
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at least of all green infrastructure will soon
be shared on the city website. This
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city will pursue its initiative to make the
region increasingly resilience. WE are currently
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studying and developing the New Storm water
management plant to prioritize integrated more
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sustainable mitigation measures that can benefit
the entire territory for more in-depth
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post-event analysis and those who have been
affected to complete the online forum to
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share information about their situation this
information will be added to the study underway.
[15:23]
You can find the link to the forum in the new
section of the website of our website. On happy
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happy and. Aux Jeux du Québec et compétition
du 25 juillet au 2 août s'est tenue la finale
des
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Jeux du Québec à Trois-Rivières. Nous sommes
heureux d'apprendre que la délégation de
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Lac-saint-louis a terminé en première place
avec un total de 40 médailles, dont 25 ont
été
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remportées par les athlètes des clubs de
Pointe-Claire. Pas si pire. Félicitations
pour ces
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performances exceptionnelles. Congratulations
on These Outstanding performance Au
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courant des prochaines semaines, les athlètes
des clubs seront en action dans plusieurs événements
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en natation. Les athlètes participants participeront
aux championnats mondiaux mondiaux
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juniors en Roumanie, aux Jeux du Canada, aux
Jeux universitaires mondiaux Fisu en Allemagne
et
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aux championnats mondiaux en eau libre à Singapour,
et plus et plus d'une trentaine d'athlètes
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du club de Canoë-kayak se rendront à Regina
pour les nationaux. Nous nous leur
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envoyons, envoyons tous nos souhaits de succès.
Le Quebec Games Finale We're here and in
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three Rivers Trois-Rivières from July twenty-fifth
to August and we are we were delighted to
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learn that the lac-saint-louis delegation finished
in first place with the total of the
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metal twenty five of which we are one by athletes
from Pointe-Claire Club Note and
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labelview, Pointe-Claire. I'm just just teasing
over the coming from the club will be in
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action at the number of events and swimming
athletes will take part in the World Aquatic
junior
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Swimming Championship in Romania, The Canadian
Games, The Fish You World University Games
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in Germany and in Open water Swimming at the
World, Aquatic Championship and Singapore and
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over thirty athletes from the canoe kayak club,
we'll be heading to regina for the
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national. WE wish them very much success. Les
journées de Pointe-Claire. Comme quand vous
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avez dit. J'espère que vous avez été nombreuses
et nombreux à profiter des différentes
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activités offertes dans le cadre des Journées
de Pointe-Claire. Pour avoir été présents
lors de
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quelques événements, je peux confirmer que
nous avons une belle quatrième édition et
nous
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avons hâte de voir qui nous attend pour la
pour l'année 2026. Je profite de l'occasion
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pour souligner le travail remarquable des équipes
de la ville qui rendent possible de
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tels événements. Merci pour votre engagement.
I hope that many of you took advantage of
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the very activity after as part of days having
attended a few events well more in a few quite
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a few I can see that we had a good for it and
we can't wait to see what's in store for twenty
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twenty five. I would like to take this opportunity
to highlight the remarkable work of
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the city teams who make such events possible
and we thank them for their commitment it
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just on a final of postmortem I wish I could
have been a little better than a couple of
them and
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I think it might have had something to do with
the heat And it might have also have
[18:46]
something to do with our pancarté our coroplaste
seen that will probably put a few
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more up but other than that I think we did
quite well. Merci de votre attention. Thank
you
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for your attention, madame Thibault. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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>> 1.1 Adoption de l'ordre du jour. 1.1 Adoption
of the Agenda.
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>> De. >> District trois. >> 3.1 Approuver
le
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Procès-Verbal de la séance ordinaire du 8
juillet 2025. >> For the minutes to have a
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mover. District and secondary. >> District
trois. >> Période de questions.
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>> Période de questions. L'inscription pour
poser une question vous a été proposée à
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votre arrivée. Si vous souhaitez être ajouté
à la liste durant la période de questions,
il est
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encore possible de donner votre nom à la table
d'accueil. Avant de commencer, je souhaite
vous
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rappeler les consignes pour la période de
questions. Une période de 90 minutes est
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réservée pour la période de questions. La
priorité est accordée aux résidentes et
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résidents de Pointe-Claire. Les non-résidents
pourront poser leurs questions par la suite
Si
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le temps n'est pas écoulé. Vous devez demeurer
assis jusqu'à l'appel de votre nom. Une seule
[20:18]
personne à la fois est autorisée au micro.
Seule la personne au micro a la parole afin
de donner
[20:26]
l'opportunité à chacun, chacune et chacun
de poser une question. Merci de limiter votre
[20:32]
intervention à une question principale principale,
suivie d'une question complémentaire.
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Particulièrement ce soir, parce que j'ai plusieurs
plusieurs questions. Je vois qu'il y a
[20:42]
beaucoup de monde à Registration to ask a
question was offered open your arrival. If
you would
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like to be added to the list during the question
period you still give your name at the
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welcoming table before we begin. I would like
to remind you of the rules of the question
period
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minutes time frame is set acide for questions
priority will be given to Pointe-Claire.
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Residence residence by ask questions afterwards
time meeting, Please cited and tell
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your name is called only one person is about
the microphone at the time only the person
at
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the microphone may speak to give everyone the
chance to ask a question Please let your
[21:22]
participation to one question and one follow-up
I would heard that tonight because I'm looking
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at the list and we have quite a few so bear
in mind that there are many people waiting
behind
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you and we have ninety minutes to begin we'll
start with. On va commencer avec Ryan Denning.
[21:36]
Alors, Derek, je m'excuse, Ryan. >> Lake Shore.
I'll make a quick, I was last month and is
[21:52]
working. >> Better. >> Alright. So last month
when I
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was here at the question regarding the city
website Where is my demolition? I'm on the
[22:05]
edge tonight. So where my demolition is posted
on the demolition website that not all
[22:11]
the information that that was provided is there
and it's still not on there. The only the
[22:18]
appraisal done by the city here with the president
company on their so my question for the
[22:23]
council is today has the council seen my demolition
my structural engineer report my report from
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ark contractors who gives a price to renovate
the house to bring it up to standard and my
[22:40]
architect report to what it would cost to bring
the house up to standard not to build new so
[22:45]
is I'd like to know if all the council are
received and so those documents.
[22:52]
>> I can't speak for all of them, but I'm pretty
sure. I'm pretty sure yet. Everybody
[23:01]
Pretty much we were we had quite a pretty informed
discussion on your subject and if they have
[23:08]
read it I'm shocked, because they certainly
had a lot to say. Thank. That looks like Gary
car
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Gary it looks like you he looks like a bit
sorry. >> Good evening, you know why
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I'm here. I'm still view last month when I
was here your city manager said I would come
up
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tonight on the agenda. I look not there so
what's happening We're at there is.
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>> A good question. Madame Verdon. >> You have
to remember what you
[23:54]
know the subject? >> Oh the subject is the
day the truck turning off off I'm on the
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still you going north and that the wheels.
There was not enough room so the wheels. The
back
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wheels were jumping over the curb putting potentially
putting citizens in danger.
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>> The traffic. >> It was in the traffic committee
report. WE don't have
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it. >> You don't have it you don't have.
[24:22]
>> It don't have the traffic committee report.
I will tell you what I know and that for
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starters. WE have moved the all the stop lines
and the directions so that people have
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to stop way further back so there is far more
room for the truck to make the turn they
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won't be they won't have to cut it right because
of traffic on the other side, we're back to
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quit far back so that there's enough room for
the truck to make the complete turn without
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jumping the cutting tight and jump in the curb
on that side so that I know for sure is happened
[24:53]
the provincial legislation allows the truc
to be in the region. We've looked into that
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policing where they leave other city neighbouring
city won't allows us to write it into there
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there boundaries so we were somewhat limited
on that but we have done that and we are
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looking in the other measure it could be observation
or surveillance. You know that
[25:16]
there might be we could possibly do have some
surveillance police surveillance. We're looking
in
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the other measures, but that's all I know so
far even now, we have we haven't got it printed
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that's pretty much the update that I can remember.
>> Which is kirkland and. You're
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the one that have the school that the. King's
cross. That's it, that's right in the.
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>> Now, we'll be right This is what you referring
to get. >> Security so if there okay to
[25:47]
put their students at risk that doesn't sound
pretty good. >> I mean well Kirkland would
[25:55]
have your right I mean if the bank of Kirkland
students are hanging out on still view that
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would your argument makes sense our day because
they're not really at risk and in their more
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at risk and Kirkland are the north and that's
for the. That's what I mean. How are the coopers
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kids hanging out on that intersection. >> Okay,
okay at that light and
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when you got a truck coming up. Ok, you Bruno
was there and so the.
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>> Yeah well well, here's to think that you
might be willing to allow those truck's to
go in
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and turn in kirkland so that's that's the option.
I see if we got it If we change it from that
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intersection, we could push it in the Kirkland.
With Kirkland it all that's the right of
[26:46]
Kirkland. You you you make it sound like it
would be in your self interest which makes
sense
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but we can't guarantee that. That's another,
that's another city.
[26:55]
>> Non. Were you put children at risk Yeah
Public security when they can come off. Right
down
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the service road comes down still view from
the North side, we have to.
[27:11]
>> Work and that it could you speak closer
to the microphone cause I think you're the
one
[27:15]
thing and people at home can see it. >> And
I know that you have the
[27:20]
right one in your council to put it up to stop
that for the road of traffic. If you put it
up
[27:27]
Quebec. >> WE can't we can't do that from what
I understand we can't
[27:31]
I have to think he's not here. WE need. >>
You it's because the north
[27:36]
side that you're talking about it the fact
that we don't want people to enter in the box,
but
[27:41]
the problem is still you and I must they are
already in that box of traffic. So even if
we
[27:47]
are not working they can't do you know the
livraison de livraison local. So they will
[27:53]
can turn and do you know the road that you
can do it so they will not change for your.
[27:59]
>> If you're going to go with that you are
moving the. Back of the stop learn from you
back
[28:08]
further you have where your light turning left
signal coming off still you turn left on the.
[28:16]
Time you would have to extend that it's time
because you're going to pick up where you get
[28:22]
in the turn left when you're gonna end up one
two people and especially in the winter when
[28:30]
you're down to one you're gonna have a back
up and that's also going to create more risk.
[28:36]
>> Now you're making since I mean. I'm not
an expert but that that does seem to make sense.
I
[28:42]
think we can leave that in the hands of the
expert. I mean they will determined that I'm
sure
[28:47]
they won't make it dangerous so that's their
timing and their calculus but you and what
you're
[28:52]
saying makes sense to me as a person. >> What
is this? This traffic
[28:56]
report do for you. >> And that's good question.
Madame Verdon. Next meeting
[28:59]
maybe. >> I will follow up with my team. There
are you know, Mr
[29:04]
right now so when it comes back I will ask.
>> You Ok, because we come to
[29:08]
the end of the month kids are back in school
and I hate to see something happening before
[29:14]
something is addressed so we come and see.
Look what happened.
[29:18]
>> I can speak to Michelle Gibson. I mean.
I can only call him and ask what let him in
on
[29:26]
the you see what he has to say I can't give
any guarantees but I can make a phone call.
[29:30]
>> From you guys and myself we'll go to quebec
city there transport Quebec and see what I
[29:38]
can make there. >> I love you to do that if
we see if we don't at this level.
[29:43]
Thank you, mister car I appreciate it. Kathleen
Baxter. >> And counselor has many of you
[29:58]
already you know that on August nignt twenty
twenty for home near idlewood and Terracotta
[30:04]
avenue Flooded When public works the parking
lot overflow and some water drain failed water
[30:10]
then rushed towards the drain channeling between
two rows of townhouse once idlewood pouring
[30:16]
through basement Windows overwhelming French
drain saturated the water table and
[30:22]
out passing our sump pump flow from Terracotta
Park Similarly overwhelming the drain and
[30:28]
flooded Basement and another area of idlewood
claimed field by residences were denied by
the
[30:34]
city, not even a year later on July thirteenth
twenty twenty five the same sequence of events
[30:40]
repeated themselves with the same results from
first and experience field observation and
[30:46]
expert consultation likely contributors included
bookstore in water drain insuffisant
[30:54]
drainage due to the construction of synthetic
soccer fields expansion of the public works
[30:58]
building the creation of a larger parking lot
for public works and I seemingly collapsed
[31:04]
pipe corridors Along Terracotta avenue Evidence
by recovering things that have been repeatedly
[31:10]
patches with concrete and gravel we. Many of
my neighbors are here and downstairs whitfield.
[31:18]
The downstairs as well are here we were here
on behalf of the twenty-six president who road
to
[31:24]
the city on July twenty for many have gotten
Basement field insurance claim and leave
[31:28]
through months of repair only to face it again
less than a year later beyond inconvenience
[31:36]
financial burden and the loss of insurance
coverage there's high anxiety about our home
and
[31:42]
safety and the well-being of our family. There
is clearly a structural failure a local
[31:50]
structural failure of the city storm water
systems in our area that record even with smaller
[31:56]
rains as evidenced by emails send by my neighbors
max WE are there for asking the council for
[32:04]
the following conformation with that the pipe
which failed to drain water on July thirteenth
[32:10]
and are the responsibility of the third party
as mentioned on the city website August seventh
[32:16]
are in fact in the terracotta corridor as well
and as explanation as why maintenance
[32:22]
was not done to an update on what the immediate
interim measures have our will be taken
[32:28]
in our area specifically before the next major
Rainstorm. Three I dated action plan for a
[32:36]
comprehensive environmental Evaluation and
lasting remediation for that the city
[32:44]
findings and clear timelines by published for
residence and finally number five the
[32:50]
establishment of a transparent process to address
compensation for the damage encore by
[32:54]
residence as a result of the city and or the
third-party negligence we want to work with
[33:02]
the city, but only clear timelines published
in information and accountable
[33:08]
leadership will prevent another repeat while
the council committed to this step tonight.
[33:16]
>> All these are all great questions and. Council
and I were there fortunately were
[33:22]
there to witness from the from the start and.
WE were quite quitte shocked by what we saw
as
[33:30]
well, I can give you and what I might want
to give Cynthia chance. If she would like to
[33:36]
speak to it as well and I have a lot of things
to say. I'm just giving cheese and experts
in
[33:42]
this has been on it and very much on it for
a long time so. >> Hardly and export, but I'm
[33:47]
glad most of you came this evening. I know
why I knew you were coming. I am I wish we
had
[33:53]
coffee for you but we don't I understand. I
know this has been in extremis difficult time
and I
[34:01]
written down exactly your request. I think
the administration has also I think
[34:05]
we are absolutely committed to ensure that
we find ways to ensure that the pips and
[34:13]
everything are clean and that's why we decided
to do this separate meeting so that we can
[34:17]
have a lot of your questions answered and that's
what you know. I'm committed to doing
[34:25]
whatever we can to make sure that it's your
area is being locked out as I have in the last
[34:31]
twelve years glennon has been a big concern
for anyone who is over in that area what we
keep
[34:37]
trying to find a way to prevent water coming
that way and now we are going to be looking
at
[34:41]
inspiring that the network is clear out as
one of your request for sure and I feel that
we're
[34:49]
taking the proper steps to move forward and
listen to your request in your german and so
I
[34:53]
was gonna ask you If you could just email me
exactly what you wrote our perfect. Know you
you
[35:02]
can bring it to them. I was gonna say. >> It's
the council meeting
[35:06]
weird so it's. So that's so what. >> I know
personally that I am
[35:13]
completely committed to ensure that we follow
through and listen to your concern as I
[35:17]
think I've shown over the last month, I'm not
in engineer. I think max is probably much
[35:23]
smarter than I am all of his concerns and so
as much as we can possibly do and will keep
[35:29]
looking at it and listen to your concern and
some of your suggestions. So I've actually
[35:34]
appreciated. Mr Tremblay emails because he
has really don't a job and he's so at my personal
[35:42]
commitment and I'm sure council is committed
for other people that also have flooding in
the
[35:48]
area it's all new for all of us as far as what
we can do so I don't know if that helps you
[35:54]
answer it but I'm completely committed for
sure so I'll let them say something else.
[35:57]
>> That you want to respond and. >> Your answer
without me. >> Ok, Ok, ok. Not enough. I
[36:05]
just wanted. Yeah! I was there that day I watched
people buying literally belong to save the
[36:13]
basement, which was pretty telling they. >>
Want I.
[36:17]
>> Know, I know and having lost the whole bunch
of photoalbum and having been in the same
[36:23]
business for twenty five years. I understand
the sadness and the power of that and I feel
for you
[36:29]
guys and there is a problem and there is no
problem and not just I want back to the next
day and
[36:37]
saddle wood up to belmont, all the way through
and there are people that and then the best
[36:41]
they could with their home and they were still
getting flooded so it was heartbreaking and
[36:47]
frustrating and what you know and I were standing
there one of my take away from that event was
[36:53]
that and part of our process is to prioritize
city buildings when there being flooded as
[36:57]
opposed to private residence and I think we
might want to change that depending on the
severity
[37:02]
of things so that was my observation number
one. I've I've learned. And too much to my
[37:11]
astonishment that we actually had actually
have in the public work works parking lots
they
[37:17]
actually included when it was written by retention
basin. So what it was actually built to
[37:22]
mitigate against flooding. I know it didn't
like that why did it and here's the thing there
[37:29]
was a third-party issue and it was an anomalie
and it's the only area where we did find the
[37:35]
anomalie and we have been working on that anomalie
right away and I got the responsible
[37:41]
for you. I'll just tell you the speaker of
the house was involved and he did some great
[37:45]
work and we are hopefully getting that one
resolved and the other of the third party or
[37:51]
party. Our expeditionary getting on that and
we'll make sure that they do we have been working
on
[37:59]
that diligently and you did suffer because
of it and so that's what I can ensure on that
[38:05]
one. HAS to the maintenance. We're from what
I'm told we did examine our systems and a lot
of
[38:11]
the system was and pretty good shape. I think
that the huge part of the problem. I think
[38:19]
city with is that it's just simply not enough
and that's a huge issue.
[38:23]
>> And the third party. Why not done. >> That's
a good question. It's
[38:29]
a very good question I've been asked and it's
repeatedly ask so that's a very point question
and
[38:33]
I can't speak much beyond that at this point.
I'm I have my share of legal difficulties in
[38:41]
life and I don't want to say something that
will get me in trouble but that's a very good
[38:46]
question. >> And what time line well, that's
a good.
[38:49]
>> That's the very good question. >> What's
the weather app and
[38:53]
our children have panic attack when there.
>> And that's all of us to try
[38:59]
and make that clear to the third party, which
we've done our best to do whether they are
not with
[39:07]
technically don't have the reality over them.
Maybe with time. WE can see how this all
[39:13]
resolve but hopefully it'll be expedited quickly
that it sounds like it will be where we have
[39:19]
every insurance that it'll be done now the
exact time line and it is a good question.
It's a
[39:25]
very good question. I can't give it to you,
Unfortunately, I can't give you the time line.
[39:31]
>> Appreciate the time line. This is it becomes
available to you.
[39:33]
>> And if you are in your shoes. I want it
to. >> Available you know that we're
[39:39]
going to continue to push. WE are not going
away. WE are going to continue to advocates
for
[39:43]
ourselves. WE hope to get response the publication
on the website our response to one of
[39:47]
our emails with the timeline and if not me
and my neighbour will be back next month.
[39:55]
>> Now that's enough. I will tell you some
another little Didi, but you know again, I
[39:59]
can't get by myself, but we are planning if
it goes through and I think it will major green
[40:07]
infrastructure projects in your area and major
one that we hope will have a metagaming effect
[40:13]
now when I'm not specialist in this but there
is one in the works and it's encouraging and
[40:21]
you know if you're talking to see green infrastructure
is the immediate way to go you can't
[40:27]
give up all the house and replace all of all
the people right away, but you can actually
[40:31]
do things right away and green infrastructure
like right away or us and we've done the amount
[40:35]
of the city and we're experimenting and learning
and exploring Now we that's all
[40:39]
we've been doing since since last year, I will.
>> Understand and I've looked at
[40:45]
all of the green projects and I appreciate
those I think as you are areas is a very specific
[40:51]
Animate and the reason why we're approaching
this and a different fashion and hoping that
the city
[40:57]
is gonna approach it in the different fashion
as well. You know we talked about that third
[41:01]
party. We've talked about immediate remediation
actions timelines tbd, but is there any
[41:09]
information regarding the collapse pipe along.
There is thirteen twenty probably areas
[41:17]
of think all that have been filled in with
concrete and gravel along the green space
[41:21]
behind the house on the saddle would we've
seen A Monsieur Tanguay has a PowerPoint
[41:29]
presentation with images of that as well with
the question has to what has been going on
there one
[41:33]
of my neighbours downstairs can attest to the
large think hall that was that was seen that
the
[41:41]
corner of Donny. Jenny and terracotta this
spring, which was filled in by the city with
[41:47]
gravel and concrete, which matches with many
of the other holder patches along terracotta
[41:53]
avenue and that green space. And Terracotta
Avenue. So I'm sure that the city has record
of all
[42:01]
of these patches throughout the years and that's
also a question to us as to the impact that
that
[42:07]
may have also had on the green absorption of
the area or rather the lack of absorption so
by
[42:13]
your reaction. I'm I'm I'm assuming that you
have not heard anything related to that it's.
[42:21]
>> Not not myself personally I can. Sur le
staff madame Verdon, you know anything about
that
[42:27]
one. >> Like I told you know your neighbor
today I ask for my
[42:31]
public department and complete report you will
take a couple of weeks before I have that to
have
[42:37]
all the recording and I prefer to have all
you know the data before answering any citizens
to
[42:41]
be sure that I have the right and so you will
have eventually answered to that question,
but
[42:46]
you just have to wait that you have a complete
report for the public work.
[42:50]
>> Appreciate the timeline and the update.
Thank you good evening.
[42:54]
>> Thank you very much and I'm sure of by the
green office structure projects it may not
be
[43:02]
America's safe, but it is a nice and it is
an interesting project that we're we're working
on as
[43:08]
we speak so. Okay. Keith Kelly. Okay. Lauren
Chiasson. >> I'm basically have the same
[43:30]
story Except that we're between march and the
first sign up. Sorry stop gone now, but that's
[43:38]
our area, it's a flood area, it's slightly
lower and the water doesn't clear it just it's
[43:46]
so I know that my water is coming up from under
my house. It's just stepping up from under
[43:52]
it's just from saturation. So that it's not
anything I could do about it It's gotta be
your
[44:00]
sewers that it cause it's clean water. That's
coming in it's not sure so it's like a little
lake.
[44:08]
So I mean. I got no more money left I gotta
do it again we've been flooded on the same
thing
[44:16]
the night were flooded on the thirteenth. What
am I supposed to do now, you're not giving
[44:20]
you're just giving us sympathy. I mean, we
need a timeline when and what is going to be
done.
[44:24]
>> Well green structures because the lifting
of house and changing the sur system of a
[44:32]
city is at the ten years time-frame, which
can't be done immediately and we have more
[44:38]
than we have like six seven areas. WE are part
of what where it's really hard Alston gets
it
[44:44]
there are other. Side of the there are part
of that get hit and we have a lot of work to
do
[44:52]
ahead of us what happened here and people seem
to forget it is it's the we do have extreme
[44:56]
weather events where water is coming down at
the level of a new century and we have peeping
[45:02]
from the previous century and you can't just
rectify that right away.
[45:08]
>> Of some kind of programs like help before
we want to one one I got the fire department
to come
[45:16]
and tell me we can't do anything, it's the
city, I found the City Public works public
[45:22]
works as you got the phone the police. I mean
come on. I z block the two end of the streets
[45:28]
because right now the cars are going through
and they're just flooding us and both sides
[45:32]
because they just want to get through. They
don't think to go around another way, but they
are
[45:36]
just going through some of them, they were
made it but that's too bad. But I mean can't
you get
[45:42]
pampers in there to pump it and stop it from
going in and something. I mean you don't have
[45:48]
to turn up the street right now, but least
help us well. >> That's it that was my logique
[45:54]
two but I'm not an expert at this I watched
volunteer rescue use a lot of pumps and austin
my
[46:00]
first year my first year in when Austin go
flooded and I'm wondering if we can do that.
But
[46:06]
I'm not a pro and from what I understood like
when I thought the terracotta, the flood and
[46:12]
with terracotta flood. I thought we could get
a whole bunch of volunteer rescue pumps in
there
[46:16]
and trying pump it out, but it's not that simple
it keeps coming back. It's part of the prowl.
[46:22]
I'm not a pro at this so I can't give you the
right answer is it to say that there is an
[46:28]
immediate thing that we can do there's no magic
solutions. What we have is a natural disaster
[46:32]
acquiring and it's not that easy and there
is a simple solution and your city is not this
[46:38]
godlike miracle. You're too extreme weather
events. WE can do our best and we can throw
all
[46:42]
of all the resources that we have to at the
problem, but at some point sometimes it ain't
[46:50]
enough and we have to find ways to deal with
this that we're getting overwhelmed our people
[46:54]
are being overwhelmed by the quantity of rain
that they can't handle and that's there's no
[47:00]
other, there's no magic solutions. WE have
an international environmental
[47:04]
problems coming from climate change and global
warming that is overwhelming and city are not
[47:10]
your savior, They can do their best but. >>
WE do.
[47:14]
>> What we. >> Do as we do. >> What we do is
what you Do you
[47:18]
can you can try you can try and reverse negative
grade. You can you can do everything you can
[47:24]
and a lot of you have and it's still. >> Been
don't have all kinds of
[47:28]
money. I understand. >> I understand well as
I said all we can do this is our
[47:34]
resources to the best of our ability and are
the best of our ability right now is green
[47:40]
infrastructure, which is trying to bring out
the water slow it down capture it and make
sure it
[47:46]
doesn't overwhelm the home that are in danger
and that's the best. WE can do it the moment.
I
[47:50]
don't know. This is just as. >> I see. >> What
we're not we're not. WE
[47:56]
are not miracle workers here This is the act
of nature. This is something that we can't
[48:04]
excuse me. Now now, this is out and bad shape.
There is just being overwhelmed some of them
[48:10]
probably are. >> We had our own citizens out
there and blocking I'm in the
[48:14]
water went through. From where. >> You understand
there were pretty good shape of this last
[48:18]
event and they were pretty well cleared the
only anomaly that we had that we identified
was the
[48:24]
one at the bottom of terracotta that that was
created the pool of public works that was the
[48:30]
only area where there was a perceived blocage
the rest of it. WE had we've gone with
[48:34]
cameras, we checked all our people so the easy
solution is to blame the city and I
[48:40]
understand why that can be done, but please
understand that city and we're not the only
city that
[48:46]
we're not the only city. This is not clear
all by itself here This is everywhere and this
is
[48:50]
across north America, and you know we have
wildfire and newfoundland and for god's sake
[48:54]
I mean we've got things going on right now
that the world has never seen before and to
think
[49:00]
that there's just an abracadabra presto. We're
actually that's avoiding. What the real issue
is
[49:06]
in the real issue is that we are suffering
the consequences of extreme weather events
that are
[49:10]
the results of climate change and that has
to be acknowledged and that's not a cop out,
that's
[49:16]
true and to blame the city. I think this is
okay with the city, we'll take this
[49:22]
responsibility and do it's best but there's
a larger problem here and to avoid that your
[49:28]
problem is a problem is the problem because
if we don't start to realize that our
[49:32]
lifestyle and what we're doing is influencing
our climate and our weather and our planet.
[49:40]
We're missing the boat here and we have to
wake up and acknowledge that part two and
[49:42]
not just blame the city. WE have to realize
there's a bigger problem at work here and we
[49:48]
understand our jobs here and our job is to
try and do our best with our resources to solve
that
[49:52]
problems and I think my myself personally that
the way to do that is green f-structure and
to
[49:56]
try and slow down. Capture one out and sponge
as much water as we can to avoid house for
being
[50:04]
overwhelmed cause we can do that immediately.
WE can use those techniques immediately and
[50:08]
that's what we're doing. And I can have a list
of the year of about for that we've put in
[50:14]
place in the last decade, which are pretty
good, we can do more and we have a couple couple
[50:20]
plan, but we are doing our best and my personal
solution would be to try and find your problem
[50:28]
areas and the city which we know and I have
lost in a few of them to you find out which
one we can
[50:34]
influence with green infrastructure and which
ones we can focus on great
[50:38]
infrastructure and try and expand accordingly
use our resources selectively and try
[50:40]
and do the best. WE can take the time in the
time frame available to us but that's all we
can do.
[50:48]
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. And volstad. Was
good alright.
[51:05]
>> Alright on mount between cedarwood and wood
and the West end.
[51:11]
>> Right in the heart of it. >> In the first
last year wasn't first I had I had. Rust in
peace
[51:21]
and two thousand fourteen of witnesses before
two thousand years of the corner of the
[51:25]
saddle Brook and Belmont fill up at least two
times my neighbors at the corner of the street
[51:32]
could probably give you the exact date because
he's been flooded out so Anyway. That it's
[51:37]
nothing new now. I understand that you have
some study underway mentioned that today
[51:43]
and in the last I should mention this my first
council meeting the only question period I've
[51:49]
ever heard was the one from I saw online from
last month and I hear you repeating over and
over
[51:57]
again the foregone conclusion that green infrastructure
is the is the solution.
[52:03]
>> It's not the solution. It's the most valuable
solution at the moment. The one of us. I
[52:13]
mean, I mean you can't. North America. Can't
give up every city and replace all this. It's
[52:21]
storm water systems. >> And I also I guess.
What would you tube and you had a
[52:29]
back and last week about you mentioned talked
about about the. Serious flood of. And you
[52:39]
said. Sex and the sex and that somehow was
the one where the quarry flooded so I think
[52:47]
that's. >> That one distinctly. >> Get home
at the time so and
[52:55]
you're throwing numbers at hundred millimeters
and towers. That and we don't have you both
[53:03]
reached the conclusion that of course that's
because of the I've looked at the I've looked
[53:10]
at the number one the environment Canada website
which I think you've been doing as
[53:15]
well because we you mentioned inexact number
that I had written down earlier today so
[53:21]
and that tells us that so sorry for those numbers
say that in Pointe-Claire. WE had the
[53:29]
rainfall that Montreal did we had some fifty
six millimeters and twenty for our period.
[53:35]
Unfortunately environment Canada doesn't give
the granularity of one hour of rainfall on
their
[53:41]
website for that far back, but we had half
the rainfall of Montreal so I think that we
[53:45]
might be jumping again a little bit to make
the link between the difference and flooding
now
[53:53]
versus now there's other things that have changed
this and to not only development you might
[53:59]
not that in the things. WE had the project.
Le projet d'assainissement des eaux, which
[54:05]
was going on through Quebec where they installed
the interceptors of the Southwest
[54:11]
interceptors that more or less runs long under
highway twenty and donegani were all our sewers
[54:15]
were connected. All all our sewers were connected
to that collector. So well is prior to
[54:23]
that prior to that we had unlimited dump site
which was the lake St-Louis. Where are
[54:31]
sanitary and storm water followed two and sometimes
in there in the light that we would
[54:37]
have connected to that to that the collector
Southwest collector. So I do and having
[54:47]
reached the conclusion that green infrastructure
is the solution have we considered as.
[54:51]
>> One of the world. It's ok. It's the most
viable solution and the most immediate solution
[55:01]
in other words. It's the one, we can do right
away enough people. The citizens were worried
about
[55:07]
timelines and the aussi well the one the timeline
solution the one we can do right away is
[55:13]
green, WE can do it right now and that for
me. It makes a lot of sense. We've been doing
for
[55:19]
the past years as well. And that is separating
the sewer system. WE have the sanitary and
at the
[55:25]
local street level at every street certainly
that's been built since the or rebuilt has
[55:31]
got a separate sanitary and storm sewer. Unfortunately
I think even at the time during
[55:37]
the days they said it would take that to hundred
years to complete that system to
[55:41]
effectively separate the two sewer system only
sanitary sewage going into the collector
[55:45]
so that it could be treated properly in the
East end of Montreal, which it doesn't been
[55:51]
treated so well right now so and so I guess
I have two question for you and have you considered
[55:59]
so the first question have you even considered
the impact that? Connecting to the to the
[56:05]
southwest collector could have had the recognizing
that it's only a couple of hundred miles
[56:11]
away from the terracotta where you seem to
have this green infrastructure solutions already
[56:19]
plan now. >> It's the solution that can happen
right away. So as I
[56:25]
mentioned, we can wait and use the great option
which we take off a long time and if people
[56:31]
are working about their home where do you long
time doesn't sound like a logical solution
to
[56:37]
me so the one that you can do immediately which
you thing is perhaps for those who are
[56:43]
concerned that's the most immediate and the
most effective solution we can do right away
[56:49]
and I believe in doing the right thing as soon
as you can are trying to solve the problem
and
[56:55]
not waiting for it so if you would like us
to wait and if you think the green solution
is in
[57:00]
the delusion, we can hold off it If you would
like what I don't think that's the way to go
so
[57:07]
you know you can we can focus on the other
more important take a lot more time. WE can
find a
[57:13]
solution that can we can do almost right away
and do that I mean. It's up to you guys. I
[57:19]
mean, it's not and I'm gonna I'm going to actually,
I'm gonna have you and that's all of my
[57:27]
grid, but what I will do is ask. Madame Verdon.
WE have any options in when.
[57:35]
>> We already have separate network for all
the city. WE are already have the separate
[57:41]
network for all the city in Pointe-Claire.
So we have you know the support the storm
[57:45]
support and we have the center where. >> Connected
to each other which
[57:51]
effectively one system, which is why which
is in the like that are coming up through the
storm.
[57:56]
Sur. >> Nothing Pointe-Claire. They are separate.
[58:02]
>> Really. Well. >> Here's here's the problem
with here's the problem with
[58:08]
this. This is that we're all experts, but we're
not in and that's the problem. Here is
[58:16]
everybody thinks there is here and knows it
you know and I don't have a clue but I don't
[58:20]
have a clue. I don't know that I'm trying and
find solutions that I think my work, but
[58:28]
nothing is just given an opinion of fact and
she's the digits of the city that contradict
other
[58:34]
people theory where do we go from there. I'm
not sure, but apparently there separate.
[58:44]
>> It, that's not a matter of opinion, that's
a matter of fact so.
[58:48]
>> I. So I mean. >> It does the storm only
the lake Saint Louis is the. Yes the
[59:00]
storm sur système Discharge into lake Saint
Louis. >> I supposed to have to check
[59:05]
to have one hundred person check. >> Qui I
can't go further on the
[59:13]
top. Okay, one more question Yes, you are.
You have two apparently underway now you have
[59:17]
the green infrastructure study that in the
last meeting you said you were not at liberty
to
[59:24]
discuss and there is. Councillor woman has
mentioned I guess and social media, which is
not the
[59:34]
proper. Media exchange has mentioned that you
have an infrastructure Evaluation study
[59:38]
of some sort as well that I started in August
of the last year and has not yet concluded.
[59:46]
I'm here I go on the city tender register and
I don't see study having been having been
[59:52]
commission for information for either green
infrastructure or. Sewage infrastructure generally
[1:00:02]
our. Way we are those studies not. Visible
in the tender registry or have i donna bad
[1:00:14]
search. >> Well. I'll answer at the one is
the storm waste management
[1:00:18]
study that started I think actually in January
our starting and will be finishing in January
[1:00:24]
and I just ask the question is actually the
other day because usually if it goes for a
call
[1:00:30]
for tender. You would see I think I actually
ask the question and if I didn't get
[1:00:35]
back to someone ask me that question but because
the study is being done by university and
[1:00:44]
it's less than two thousand dollars. So that's
why we're not seeing it on a call for tender
[1:00:50]
so I can answer that now and I as soon as we
get results and that's what we're basing a
lot
[1:00:58]
of the information moving forward on and well
and that's why. I think it's really
[1:01:03]
important everyone shows up to the information
station on September the temps will have
[1:01:10]
some people that are gonna be much more than
I am and that will allow you to ask more
[1:01:16]
question so that's why the storm waste management
is not finished and then the other one is well
[1:01:23]
cause there's no other studies actually there's
an ecological if I don't value of the forest
[1:01:32]
area and then the larger one is what I understand
is a general value for the whole of the City
[1:01:41]
of Pointe-Claire and that one is only going
to be on the end of September was told.
[1:01:46]
>> Il y a des écosystèmes écosystémiques.
So it's really show the écosystèmes that
we are
[1:01:52]
in city. I'm not only you know for water but
also for biodiversity. So it's here that
[1:02:00]
one wasn't there. >> So this. >> Just so you
know what if you
[1:02:06]
have one more I'm just gonna add if it's all
one more but I will. Just do what I know and
this is
[1:02:16]
probably these are all in two thousand twenty
five Attention project that elgyn park. Two
[1:02:25]
thousand twenty-four a project was beginning
that will a natural attention in Waverly
[1:02:32]
Woods area of which should be finished two
thousand twenty six and another the bigger
is the
[1:02:38]
best of them is literally couple of blocks
from your house, which which.
[1:02:45]
>> So. >> There is something. WE are we are
currently in some stuff so
[1:02:50]
I'm just so what the city is responding, We're
not singing in our own our hands.
[1:02:57]
>> I'm just. Des efforts into the bottleneck
in our existing system or possibly not because
[1:03:05]
of this is being at the university, I don't
know master's tesis twenty one
[1:03:12]
thousand this is more than a thousand dollars
is my point. >> Is not to play the name of
[1:03:21]
the I don't have my name it is yes, It's. >>
It's a partnership.
[1:03:27]
>> It's so. >> It's because the city of water
doesn't pay the full
[1:03:30]
amount of the city. WE have a partnership what
we call the end of the it's so we are you know
[1:03:38]
financially guaranteed to pay twenty five thousand
dollars, but the order par pay the rest
[1:03:42]
of the city Alright. >> Thank you, Thank you
Thank. >> The water and the system are
[1:03:50]
designed to be separate, but there is there
are instance of Kings cross contamination well
[1:03:57]
for instance well so that everybody will know
that for instance the sewage all the
[1:04:03]
manhole is going that there are there are over
with the sound system. They all have all in
[1:04:09]
them to ventilateur. The law the water the
switch to passe well. If there's flooding over
that
[1:04:14]
it's going to go in into the sound system.
That's so that's one way that you can get cross
[1:04:19]
contamination between the storm water systems
and the sound system and well. I'm just saying
[1:04:27]
if the if there's water, that's backing up
on the surface over the surge. The man cover
it will
[1:04:32]
get in there and another possibilities for
cross contamination is it there's a
[1:04:38]
private connection from some people dump system,
there's supposed to go into the storm
[1:04:44]
water system, but some people have in the past
to make been a while I don't know some people
[1:04:49]
have hooked them up into the into the sound
system. That's the possibility.
[1:04:57]
>> I had. >> Just. >> A little thing we have.
[1:05:01]
>> Mais oui, monsieur. >> WE have we have a
bylaw about getting on your sewer one-way
[1:05:09]
valve because there is two reasons to that
and it's a partial answer but people like I
[1:05:19]
used to do guilty I use to pump some pump in
the in the sewer. And a lot of people in the
older
[1:05:30]
and that's been fixed about ten years ago.
But. All there is that I don't have a backflush
[1:05:39]
valve. We'll have events with the sewer backup.
Also you need to have one one-way valve and
[1:05:48]
for the main collector. The whole idea is that
water. Storm drain they bring clean water to
[1:05:59]
the lake and we do have a lot of water in in
Quebec. But. If it's dumped in that big Interceptor.
[1:06:12]
It's wasted water also that's one of the. Equivalent.
>> Sanitary waste goes to
[1:06:26]
Interceptor. >> Yeah! I inquired about that
maybe ten years ago and it's not
[1:06:34]
gonna fly away, we can try but I'm I'm getting
the answer is that you gotta keep. Good water
[1:06:46]
going back to the lake and the dirty water
from the sewers going to Laprairie. Thank you.
[1:06:57]
>> Baby. >> Good evening. My name Natural District,
Seven and I'm always
[1:07:10]
here and we'll have to admit really since the
previous administration when this was
[1:07:16]
going to build brivia and I told him. WE need
infrastructure fix the source and all the road
and
[1:07:26]
all that that is need to be take care of it
before you start building anything that is
about
[1:07:31]
maybe now six years whatever and that's all
what is going on now the keep building all
how many
[1:07:38]
how many high-rise building when. Searching
for about it. For thousands. You know where
is
[1:07:45]
all the waste water goes in the nineties. WE
are there and in the air tonight is free wouldn't
[1:07:52]
have anything in the night at the flood or
sur back or anything all that is started
[1:07:58]
with all, I am and all the buildings and built
because it is the map where is all the
[1:08:04]
waste water it goes. It's really simple all
the system and the drain built in the fifties
and
[1:08:12]
the sixties wooden update all that so we don't
have to say Oh green green. WE have to fix
the
[1:08:20]
infrastructure in the road, the soul. All that
is you need to have to do it you can wait and
[1:08:32]
you see all green. Building. And the power
of it when it's electricity it came off. How
you
[1:08:44]
can pump it all the water tell me even if you
have extra when it take how many one or two
ways
[1:08:50]
to finish and afterwards the water is pumping
like like a flood. Our insurance we don't
[1:08:56]
have any clean and twenty twenty five persons
and tell us because you Pointe-Claire is flat
zone.
[1:09:04]
The oldest people. What they are here are building
and condos the same what he said is going to
[1:09:12]
built in Pointe-Claire Plaza when he went in
next election. Before he was promoting Cadillac
[1:09:20]
Fairview now is promoting. Pointe-Claire Plaza
it starts with Pointe-Claire Blade and
[1:09:27]
after. Everywhere. So what we have to do you
have to be serious really all this people
[1:09:34]
they came and also last year with the same
thing and I talked about it, but it's nothing
[1:09:40]
really serious than what is the serious really
we have to stop building anything and think
to
[1:09:46]
fix infrastructures to get out of the North
South East Eastern West. When we have very
all this
[1:09:52]
all the road is all the day bumper à bumper
and then another maybe ten thousand people
were
[1:10:00]
twenty thousand people why I had people to
suffer with us why. Why I have no idea who
smart
[1:10:08]
people really the designed that. It's true
or not. CAN you help me, please especially
with
[1:10:20]
master. Eric Branco just here in the. Anjou.
Jaune twenty. >> If you can be.
[1:10:40]
>> Okay because it's to be able to. Is running
again is running as a maire. In twenty five.
In
[1:11:00]
the fifty fifteen Then he said when he when
he run because he's asking you for. The resign
when
[1:11:10]
he went is going to build the most for. Pointe-Claire
glad to build on the. The parking lot.
[1:11:22]
Sorry to build on the parking lot that is starting
with this before. There when after the. In
[1:11:32]
the election is twenty twenty twenty one and
in in the spring twenty two consultations in
[1:11:42]
Julie Séguin and more than hundred people
with the team there and they were all against
[1:11:48]
belting because it's right for both Cadillac
for all the downtown. What they built
[1:11:52]
because all that from the previous administration
is Mister Giant Belvedere. What is
[1:11:58]
all that when he came was all in power did
all that. After that would you stop.
[1:12:06]
>> Blaming past administration. >> That is
the truth is a fact I'm not I'm not playing.
[1:12:14]
>> I do have an answer for your question If
you want to hear it. >> Let me finish first.
[1:12:21]
>> OK. >> Because you already again. After
that he went and he went
[1:12:31]
and. >> Saying that he is already done after
everything that he is
[1:12:37]
done at the council for the city. It's disrespectful
so point of order. Let's call this
[1:12:41]
thing to order. >> That's my call and I have
I have excuse my heard expression
[1:12:51]
coming from this side of the room that is not
always been pleasant to be either and I
[1:12:57]
think as a citizen who deserve to be created
with. This I'm working right now. I don't think
[1:13:04]
I was terribly out of order. I think he was
being mister be which he does sometimes and
he
[1:13:10]
is colorful and he expresses himself, but he
is the citizens and I don't think he he he
cross
[1:13:16]
the line in my opinion, I would I would ask
him to maybe get to the point about quicker,
but
[1:13:24]
other than that I don't think is behavior is
worthy of any kind of or anything would must
be.
[1:13:30]
>> So when they are going to stop until face
really the reality. That's my question cinq
[1:13:35]
six here I keep asking that and the neighbors
the kids built-in built-in built-in when all
this
[1:13:43]
people and any. Now, it's making everybody
is really. >> Well your solution by
[1:13:51]
November six and. Maybe simple I mean. If you
want if you want building if you want to build
[1:13:57]
and you want accelerated building people who
want accelerated building you reflect
[1:14:03]
and if you want building this lowdown people
who you want building the slow down you like
[1:14:07]
it's pretty simple and the solution is there
for you and it's not are our choice it's
[1:14:14]
your. I think. >> Yes, sir, WE know what is
exactly the reality and what the
[1:14:23]
true what the solution, we have to go to be
serious about the solution to stop building
and
[1:14:29]
the. >> Solution so what is in your hands.
[1:14:31]
>> Not in my head. >> Well. >> Because I was
living with
[1:14:35]
living and here from the night night. I wouldn't
have all this. >> Okay, you speak english here
[1:14:43]
and I don't want to take too much about it
But. I think to agree, I think that that we
have
[1:14:51]
to start being very conscious of how we build
moving forward in an era of extreme climate
crisis
[1:14:59]
and we have to look not just in building but
in lifestyles and that's the point. I was here
we
[1:15:05]
have to really take what's going on around
us in the world. Seriously and we are citizens
[1:15:09]
and as people have to start the rising city
and where is that that work with mothernature
and
[1:15:15]
I certainly agree with the fact that the more
we build the less penjing. There is in the
water
[1:15:21]
has to go somewhere and it's pretty simple
but if you've got your heart covered and it's
not
[1:15:28]
imperméable the water has to go somewhere
and the less perméable. There is the more
[1:15:33]
flooding. You have for me. It's pretty simple
physique or whatever it is it's pretty
[1:15:39]
simple mathematics so that's the answer your
question, I agree with you and I think that
we
[1:15:43]
have to really moving forward. WE have to I
mean. I thought the line was quite funny and
people
[1:15:47]
to suffer with us and I thought that was interesting
when I mean. WE are suffering, but you
[1:15:53]
know what do you of the world that are you
mean, we have even more climate crisis going
on
[1:16:00]
right now, they are part of the world and we
have to do it now what is it and territories
the
[1:16:05]
size of New Brunswick is burning in Canada.
As we speak we have to start realizing that
our
[1:16:11]
world and dealing with our world accordingly
and as we can do stuff and people and laugh
at
[1:16:16]
the green infrastructure avancée, but it's
one of the many solutions that we have to
[1:16:23]
connect immediately. WE have to start changing
our lifestyle and doing things differently
not
[1:16:27]
just in building but how we build and what
we also in and what we also development to
do
[1:16:35]
and we have to really understand what the consequences
can be I've seen properly I see the
[1:16:39]
property property in the top of the street
and in Pointe-Claire. Where I saw a Big housing
house
[1:16:47]
project go down and I see it when I see the
river coming of that property and I know exactly
[1:16:52]
where it's coming from and that can be mitigated
against I mean. You can you can rewrite that
[1:16:57]
water. It's coming off because ecology has
been changed and the change in ecology. If
you cut a
[1:17:03]
wetlands you with mother nature and you have
consequences and we have to deal with all these
[1:17:09]
things going forward. I agree with your overall
sometimes I wouldn't single people out as
[1:17:13]
much and maybe we can but your sentiment are
good sir. If that's what answers to your your
[1:17:19]
questions and I will ensure that if you want
to slowdown building or have more controlled
[1:17:24]
responsible building you're gonna have a choice
and you can make that your self.
[1:17:28]
>> That's what we. >> Are so that's your Ok.
>> And also.
[1:17:37]
>> Must be one more question a lot of people
to get through. Okay. One more questions without
[1:17:45]
without préambule because we've had a lot
of time now. >> Okay. D'Agenda fifteen points
[1:17:51]
for. About Valois. Library that one is over
three days a week. With spending again does
the
[1:18:03]
third amount with spending on the 1-005-100-0770
after the flood. In August nine last year
[1:18:15]
I did the budget one million, I did it one
million five to fix the basement after the
flood and
[1:18:23]
after a few months ago. I did another budget
one hundred thousand to fix the best man.
[1:18:33]
Now is another so that's close to two million
dollars for library of three days a week now
[1:18:41]
everything in the website and even kids, they
don't go to the library, my wife to go There
is
[1:18:49]
all we have a very nice library here and it's
almost no barely somebody there will ask about
[1:18:53]
the two million dollar is something. If we
have a lot of a lot of projects needs to be
done
[1:19:03]
for help a lot of people, not for three days
nobody got in and that's all about that, Mrs.
[1:19:11]
>> Well. Alright. >> The power library actually
holds very various community
[1:19:18]
organization that greatly serve our community
and it's not just our library, but it's also
a
[1:19:24]
hundred years history. I was a school, it's
a héritage sight. It's a integrated part of
our
[1:19:28]
community during the school year many people
will tell you about bringing there is there
for
[1:19:32]
story time and it also contribute to our non
profite organisation. So I just would
[1:19:37]
appreciate. If you go all the information before
criticized in the project. That's actually
[1:19:41]
quite integral into our community. >> We used
to go. There we used
[1:19:45]
to go there is really anybody there and for
two millions dollars that you turn down the
[1:19:51]
building and you build something better for
two millions dollars. >> I'll go through the
library
[1:19:59]
to share you the history and all the different
valuable works that happens out of that
[1:20:03]
building. I invite You are welcome it would
be lovely to meet you there.
[1:20:07]
>> We went there because we used to all of
our kids too close in the. Daycare closed there
and we
[1:20:14]
used to go there is there anybody there. So
I'm just take two million dollars and we have
[1:20:19]
a lot of projects to do better than just a
few people to go there.
[1:20:23]
>> Must be just from my perspective. I think
literacy is an important thing and I think
[1:20:29]
it is crucial part of the city life and. >>
We have a very nice.
[1:20:33]
>> One you will have a nice one year. Yes,
There. >> Is what you need to.
[1:20:39]
>> Work it and make it. It's the community,
It's also it's a héritage building as well
and I
[1:20:43]
from what I understand is the héritage elementary
school was run out of that building and I
[1:20:49]
don't think it's something that can be just
discarded that quickly sir and I just that's
my
[1:20:55]
short answer to that one. >> Thank you with
all here because there are our tax keep
[1:21:00]
up sixty and now the answer is where I don't
know for us. WE didn't have any clean twenty
[1:21:05]
five years and I'm sure this is what about
than that so I hope you care about that you're.
[1:21:11]
>> Beautiful and even more serious not which
is tragic and awful thanks and even more
[1:21:18]
serious. >> Thank you for taken. Seriously
everything.
[1:21:21]
>> OK. Thank you so next up is. >> For. Interrupting
you. Mr Dabi, and but you do you do this
[1:21:34]
a lot of information When the building is approved
engineering goes through is it possible or
[1:21:43]
not in France go through the plant and the
project and the make sure that there is enough
[1:21:51]
water. There is enough sewer because there
is gonna be paying. If there is a mistake so
[1:21:59]
and actually company. I will know for. Your
best friend. There can those buts company
[1:22:11]
from which I think we could go back ten years
now they have to have a reserve for extra rain
[1:22:19]
water so it's not that it's not only densification
and it's not as bad as you say, thank you and
[1:22:29]
I am an expert because I was flooded for times
in ten years so you have I don't have
[1:22:37]
insurance anymore. >> So you see I care. Thank
you and I care about I leave and
[1:22:44]
Pointe-Claire. Pointe-Claire focused success
because they born and grow up and
[1:22:48]
Pointe-Claire. That's why I want next generation
and family they have a good really the same
as
[1:22:56]
well, that's why I swear, I come here and that's
why, I was all of you. I hope really the
[1:23:02]
election the elite people care about the exists
citizens and president of Pointe-Claire.
[1:23:09]
Thank you. >> I just want to add one little
thing is that if you don't
[1:23:13]
densifie, you don't have money to fix the old
problem. Thank you.
[1:23:21]
>> That's why I said you want all the projects.
>> Is you can save a lot of your
[1:23:27]
problem by identifying your industrial commerciales
and your industrial park which is huge
[1:23:31]
amount of your taxes and is better than residential,
but that's that's my answer on that
[1:23:37]
one. Claudine Mercier and Mike nurse. I don't
know if it's one or the time or one. Ok.
[1:23:47]
>> Hello my name is Mrs Mercy. I just want
to start by thinking. WE don't know each other
but I
[1:23:52]
really appreciate her really well prepared
or not I think she said what a lot of us and
there
[1:24:00]
are currently experiencing myself and my husband
have been on saint Louis, We're on the
[1:24:05]
court of March. There is an issue that is currently
there from march to I guess I would
[1:24:09]
say that I don't know what's going on the other
side. I don't see any water there but I could
[1:24:15]
tell you that in the past twenty years we've
only had issues on August night and July
[1:24:19]
thirteenth. WE have a big Flo valve that's
functioning or was functioning and we also
have a
[1:24:25]
french drain because we have a driveway that's
slop. If we have never had any issue whatsoever
[1:24:29]
with any kind of weather situation. Based on
which I've heard you say before with the
[1:24:37]
green the green infrastructure and all that
stuff. I mean we know that there is sensitive
[1:24:42]
zone you haven't mentioned what those things
are so we don't know. If we are currently
[1:24:47]
considered one of those zones. If I go in the
government websites. I can see that we're
[1:24:51]
considered in zone cuvette so it's been recognized
as having a water issue there but I would
[1:24:56]
really like to know because you've mentioned
that there is inspection before during and
[1:25:00]
after I could tell you that I've witness myself
vegetation growing out of the halls. I
[1:25:07]
don't think that means that was cleaned out
or inspectors and whether it's a third party
of
[1:25:13]
the city. I'm unaware, but I took it to the
city, not to the third party so I expected
goals
[1:25:17]
to function I don't want to be sitting in my
house worried when there's a rainstorm sitting
at
[1:25:23]
midnight and looking at the ap as you mentioned
because the rain is at midnight now now it's
[1:25:27]
that two and I have to wait and not sleep all
night having my pump my backup pump my kids
[1:25:33]
dispatched when the storm does it so that I
can have a plan to once again deal with the
rain
[1:25:41]
coming in so in our case you came through the
back full of the caps literally blue off from
[1:25:45]
the pressure. So we do have that one way of
the night work. WE also had the french drain
that
[1:25:53]
overflow one that overflow and it came in from
everywhere and there's just no way to get the
[1:25:58]
water out right so you mentioned that and the
first thing. I would like to know is what are
[1:26:03]
those sensitive zones so it is saint Louis
considered a flood one of those sensitive zones
and
[1:26:08]
when you say that there being expected before
during and after how do we know that this is
[1:26:15]
actually happening because I've also even witness
after the rain cause we had the rain on the
[1:26:19]
Thursday following the storm the following
few days after that rain came in the middle
of the
[1:26:24]
night around two am the very next day at eight
PM. Hi hi hi! I'm taking a walk down the
[1:26:29]
street and there is still waters sitting on
the side of the road. This should have been
drained.
[1:26:37]
It was a hot day. There was no reason for the
water to still be sitting there you get there
is
[1:26:41]
huge puddle all along Saint Louis on that stretch
the water just be there so to me this. I'm
[1:26:47]
not an expert either so I'm not gonna pretend
like I am but I need an explanation. How is
this
[1:26:52]
water? That's my first question. So are we
in that zone and how is this you're saying
that it's
[1:26:57]
been inspectors. But why is this water sitting
there, Why is it rising and not draining only
in
[1:27:03]
that. >> Could I have to ask my director of
public works, but
[1:27:05]
I'll ask Madame Verdon and we do know anything
that can. >> Be able. You know for the
[1:27:11]
Exact. You know the exact maintenance that
it would do not that day so I don't know if
you
[1:27:17]
reach out to the administration. >> It's a
very nice email with all the pictures of our
lake and
[1:27:23]
everything else that happened on the streets
on both occasions that's that's been send to
Mr
[1:27:27]
Cohen. >> To Monsieur Cohen administration
you copy of it so
[1:27:32]
I can retrace that email and come back to you
a little on. This week.
[1:27:37]
>> So this this will know if we're in the zone
as well. If we're considered one of those
[1:27:41]
zones that you guys are looking at fixing as
a pitie. >> I can look at the zone that
[1:27:46]
we are currently you know. Document. >> And
my second question is you
[1:27:53]
mentioned that there's a lot of resources that
are throwing and it is sort of help. I mean,
I
[1:27:57]
have a few of their of my name is that you
are here now everybody was able to make it,
[1:28:01]
but you mentioned that there's the resources
that are throwing out and despite the some
pump
[1:28:05]
the back full of love and everything that we
have our sandbag I literally have sandbag
[1:28:09]
appeared in front of my garage now because
I can't take that chance. I want to know what
kind
[1:28:15]
of assistance is going to be provided because
you guys know that there's issue incertaine
[1:28:19]
areas and our insurance won't cover us anymore
because we have to climb back to back. I'm
[1:28:23]
getting an additional sump pump installed in
my house so that it has a battery backup back
but
[1:28:27]
all these expenses, they're not covered by
the insurance because they cover the damage
is not the
[1:28:33]
case of the damage, but the case is from the
infrastructure and all of I understand the
rain and
[1:28:37]
I understand that this is. Because because.
>> It's all natural incredibly
[1:28:45]
natural amount of that are overwhelming. Yes,
but I have been there for.
[1:28:49]
>> You and I've. >> Of the. >> Fact in those
words that has
[1:28:53]
been there is much different. To say that it
is in the last one years, we've never had any
[1:28:59]
issues and all of a sudden even on the side
of my house when i opened my back door to try
to
[1:29:03]
grab some sandbag in my yard, I had a river
following on the side of my house.
[1:29:09]
>> But what I'm told and from what I've told
by myself and the people that use cameras and
have
[1:29:15]
looked into the drain. There and functioning
order this. >> Was done on Saint-Louis.
[1:29:21]
>> Normally. I don't I can't hold it. There
are inspected by public works. I can and I'm
not
[1:29:25]
told by street, WE don't do it by street. I
don't do it by street. I'm told that they have
[1:29:31]
looked at our storm water system and they examine
it constantly and really what there was one
[1:29:37]
anomalie which we some people in the back row
experienced there was one anomalie that we
know
[1:29:43]
how in the last rainfall that we can identify
we didn't find any other. I'm not sure what
what
[1:29:51]
was examined and you're a good one and we have
to find out whether you was was stopped or
[1:29:57]
examined, but really what happened was that
the system was there. It was not damaged that
[1:30:03]
wasn't clouded with branch it wasn't blocked
it just go overwhelmed.
[1:30:07]
>> That so went with the stick and it started
moving things around the water started running
[1:30:11]
out of nowhere well and I'm saying vegetation
go in the mind well. I'm gonna be honest with
[1:30:15]
you. >> Okay. >> I'm getting things I've seen
[1:30:19]
the pictures, I have proof you're not I want
to understand. >> It was coming out of a man
of
[1:30:23]
water coming out of the whole thing is gonna
do much if water is coming up out of the whole
[1:30:29]
sticks. I don't want it too. >> Much just blocked
and the moment. WE went with our sticks,
[1:30:33]
then all of a sudden and start it. >> When
I saw the ground. So the
[1:30:37]
top of it was blocked was something but I don't
think that that was the case of the
[1:30:41]
flooding in the city was blocked the top of
manuel. If it's not going down the manholes
and
[1:30:47]
being absorbed by the drain, but there were
there you got a problem because the shoes are
[1:30:51]
overwhelmed. I'm not the scientist and you're
not in another of my logic is that if
[1:30:57]
it's just blocked at the surface of the whole
it would be solved easily it's much too much
more
[1:31:03]
excuse-me excuse-me. I'm still speaking so
if the water and if we're in the situation
where the
[1:31:09]
water is coming up over and out of the whole.
It's got nothing to do with sticks. It's got
a
[1:31:15]
lot to do with the fact that there's too much
water and the system even know it's functional
[1:31:19]
is getting overwhelmed and we have to acknowledge
that we can't think that it's all the
[1:31:23]
city is for it here we have to acknowledge
that there's an indoor amount of rain for the
[1:31:27]
infrastructure. WE have and it's happening
in every city, not just clear and everybody's
got
[1:31:31]
the same problem and that we're getting volume
of rain, we're getting century level of rain
[1:31:39]
like once and in the century we had to use
them two of two centennial events in in back
to
[1:31:45]
back years. There's something going on here
we have weather events happening and it is
[1:31:51]
different than it used to be and it can be
mathematical and scientifically quantified
and
[1:31:55]
its way worse than it used to be and we have
a system that guide for a different time and
we have
[1:32:01]
to now change our infrastructure to adapt to
modern reality and that's going to take a while
but
[1:32:07]
we do have to do it. If the house is gonna
be safe and that's the reality of what's
[1:32:11]
going on here and again, I repeat what I said
to the german area to blame this on the city
[1:32:17]
is missing the crux of the issue. The crux
the issue is that we're getting inward
[1:32:21]
weather events and we don't have infrastructure
and the city can't just fix that overnight,
[1:32:25]
that's a huge problem and we have a huge problem
and we have to we have to do our best to
[1:32:31]
solve it all of us together and it starts with
being realistic about what we can do and what
we
[1:32:35]
should do and be blaming a city for a huge
climatic weather event is missing. I think
the
[1:32:43]
issues. Okay, okay. >> Really and that the
city knows there are specific issues
[1:32:49]
in search areas. I'm not in specific areas
and that's what I'm saying is that the left
side
[1:32:55]
of my street was not flooded the other side
of Saint-Louis was flooded the back of my house
was
[1:33:01]
not flooded that particular basin was flooded
right there was no help people were stuck in
[1:33:05]
the middle of the streets last year. WE had
to put a poor girl I had to pool her with with
the
[1:33:09]
rope out of her window because he couldn't
open the door and she was so scared all of
these
[1:33:15]
events. It's a very small amount but nobody
there was no communication. There was no
[1:33:19]
information given as to what was going on now
we're we're been told that we don't even know
If
[1:33:23]
our section is considered an issue, but we
have two floods their back to about.
[1:33:27]
>> You want to hold it. WE just don't know
we can take. Okay, I mean, I mean with the
one that
[1:33:33]
might and. >> They can't be the that. >> They're
changing there is
[1:33:35]
changing and that's the other thing is that
I've never been flooded our flooding and there
[1:33:39]
aren't even specific zones anymore. There are
places that I've never we've here I've heard
[1:33:43]
stories from citizens come up here and say
I've never had some tonight this never happened
[1:33:49]
before all of a sudden. It's happening so the
zone are not the same ones it change and
[1:33:53]
people were dealing with something here that's
beyond the current capacity. WE have to
[1:33:59]
really start were asking everybody to give
us feedback. So we can start identifying.
[1:34:03]
What the hell is going on so we can try and
deal with it and understand it you don't
[1:34:07]
understand it and I don't understand it and
mother does most most of everybody is
[1:34:11]
dealing with it, Unfortunately, we get a room
full of experts and we get people who think
the
[1:34:15]
expert, but this is the situation that has
not been fully understood and remains
[1:34:19]
something to be studied before we come up with
conclusive ensure that we think we know we
[1:34:23]
have to understand what the heck is going on
here and to do that requires good communication,
[1:34:29]
you're right on that and that score and we've
got to start identifying and dealing with
[1:34:33]
problems and whether they're gonna be regular
and certaines areas I mean I used to think
[1:34:37]
they were full of five areas, they're now a
lot more there there are all hunks of how they
[1:34:43]
got really hammer and the last one you know
and you know you know I used to be more and
[1:34:49]
sandalwood and holston, and they were you know
and it's growing and it's moving around and
it's
[1:34:53]
disturbing so it's not simple, it's not a simple
solution and but we are all here and we want
[1:34:59]
to learn and trying to figure it out. That's
all. It's all we can do.
[1:35:03]
>> That we deserve to have more transparency
as to was actually happening. When the words
are
[1:35:09]
our considered flooded we should be. >> You'll
get transparency when
[1:35:13]
we know what the hell is going on. WE have
it we're still in the study process completely
[1:35:21]
different. >> Is that this is happening and
this is the two two times and
[1:35:25]
roll that you said a hundred years event twice
in the same here right the fact that it
[1:35:29]
happened twice and it was and when we called
for the city to come to try to block the
[1:35:35]
streets, they did they de pick up there and
there was no help there was nothing that happens
[1:35:39]
they just start there so that nobody would
drive through and we were left to find for
[1:35:45]
ourselves. Just basically desperately trying
to enter our house now.
[1:35:47]
>> Well with all due respect when the event
happened on the sunday. WE were terribly under
[1:35:53]
staff for what occurred so we now, we have
to oui. >> We used.
[1:35:59]
>> Oui used in. I can't speak for the public
security officer. He was at least there. Which
we
[1:36:07]
had well I called people for idlewood and it
took me while the city and I were standing
[1:36:13]
there ready to try and get more help as well,
but we had a limited amount of people on
[1:36:19]
staff. It was the Sunday afternoon and every
single person. WE had employed Tony
[1:36:23]
showed up bless his heart and we had volunteer
rescue show up and we had our limited staff
and
[1:36:31]
everywhere. They could but you know. >> This
event was not for more
[1:36:35]
than. >> It wasn't there was I think it was
millimeters predicted
[1:36:39]
we've got way more than what was predicted
from what I understand I'm right on that one
I have the
[1:36:47]
number I had the number. >> The storm. >> It
was impredictible that's
[1:36:49]
the other thing, that's the other thing Meteorology
is not in exact science and this is not
[1:36:53]
something you can just figure out you can predict
that number somewhere the weather forecast
[1:37:01]
that they were showers of the fifth millimeters
of rain that was the weather forecast for
[1:37:07]
that we go, we go to a hundred but I'm I've
got it right here these are my briefing, not
maybe
[1:37:13]
their lying these are the not to get there
are sitting in front of.
[1:37:17]
>> My and that's the reason, we had handbags
and that's the reason we were prepared getting
[1:37:21]
there. >> I'm sorry it just has to be right
here the weather forecast
[1:37:25]
that they were showers millimeters. Okay, That's
what I have right now. Okay. Look here
[1:37:30]
we are in rivals engineering. Three rivers
meteorological theory. We're getting into the
[1:37:36]
interesting areas of this but here which I
think requires some greater precision and some
[1:37:42]
great. >> History when you need to see the
actual appreciate the
[1:37:46]
sympathy. WE really do I appreciate over there
Mr. Cousineau saying he was flooded
[1:37:50]
for time I sympathize because I understand
we had to worry about everything we had just
finished.
[1:37:55]
So we understand how everybody can feel here,
but it's behind the sympathy. WE just need
to
[1:38:00]
start saying action. >> Ok well and it's cold,
it's cold, it's cold green
[1:38:04]
infrastructure and it's already happening and
it's been happening for over a decade and
[1:38:09]
your city has been busy and I deserve it and
it has done it's best and to continue to do
more
[1:38:16]
which is what we're doing. And I can leave
you do you want me to read you the green
[1:38:20]
infrastructure that we've done since I mean
I can give them to you since the seven open
air
[1:38:26]
retention basin arbitrage park which was performed
admirable during the rainstorm as
[1:38:32]
counselor tremblait qu'il était quasi filmed
it around two thousand eleven underground
[1:38:36]
pipes on mason two thousand fifteen underground
people on holiday two thousand seven in
[1:38:40]
peace and two underground retention basin we're
installed under the bike bath and I'm
[1:38:45]
boulevard near Saint John and Hastings and
two thousand eighteen two underground
[1:38:50]
retention basin, We're installed under the
bike path and he was boulevard near Hillary
and
[1:38:53]
winthrop two thousand eighteen underground
pipes were installed on quartier avenue and
then
[1:38:57]
Ovide Park. Two thousand twenty one again was
created in belmont park, two thousand twenty
two
[1:39:03]
public works parking lots was was designed
to included, two retention basin and two thousand
[1:39:10]
twenty-four. Retention basin was on the trail
and belmont park under the trail and two thousand
[1:39:16]
twenty five drainage feature was incorporated
and the design of winthrop avenue and two thousand
[1:39:20]
twenty five a bio retention bastion has been
designed for Elgin park and natural retention
[1:39:26]
basin projects began in two thousand twenty-four
and will continue and two thousand twenty
[1:39:30]
six in the Waverly Woods area of kingsmen and
we have several other other projects one of
them
[1:39:36]
designed right up for the belmont saddle wood
area in the works, that's not an idle city.
[1:39:40]
That's not the city, that's sitting responsibly,
that's not the city that deserve the
[1:39:44]
insights that you're looking at it. It's a
city, that's been doing nobody, we're not a
lack
[1:39:50]
of transparency or the lack of idle you want
to see action there's been action there's been
[1:39:55]
action for over a decade. Do you want to see
more actions. You probably we'll see more actions,
[1:39:59]
but we're doing our best with our resources
and to suggest that were somehow coupables
or
[1:40:04]
it is I think a little harsh. That's my, that's
my take on it. I've just give you. Statistics
[1:40:10]
that show as city that car and this is doing
what it can and we can continue to do more.
That's
[1:40:16]
all. That's all. I can say. Next is. Jennifer
Roy now sir Sir Sir, It's over it's over at
the
[1:40:28]
microphone. Jennifer was now you just designated
her to speak for you you you you are written
you
[1:40:35]
were you are with you are right and down together.
I have you down here as. You can go ahead,
[1:40:42]
sir. Go ahead, but I just feel bad for Jennifer
work cause you excuse me sir you initially
said
[1:40:48]
you do not want to speak and I gave you did
I just want to do it from. Ok, ok, Go ahead
sir!
[1:40:55]
>> Yes here to saint Louis between just just
between them more and much and I'm gonna
[1:41:04]
respectfully disagree actually disagree with
you now and the hostile way, but I do blame
the
[1:41:12]
city for the action because this is the night
of we're talking about we're not talking about
[1:41:17]
this is a hundred area where we are retired
they're outside all the time. I have a camera
in
[1:41:24]
front. WE would just like that you just wanna
keep it simple with love to see the manuel
[1:41:28]
opened and some investigation in there and
we have not seen the manuel open in a year
so no
[1:41:34]
investigation. There is vegetations in there
we can show your pictures, so there is a
[1:41:38]
problem now and we understand about the green
projects and that's great but my insurance
[1:41:43]
doesn't want to hear that. And you know what
you need is yours. WE just want some answers
and to
[1:41:49]
find out when we'll get some answer at least
come and open the mind all and look that
[1:41:54]
that's it. That's all we are asking for you
just to get something done because I leave
[1:41:59]
on saint Louis. Not the lake Shore. I should
not have a bit like in front of my house every
[1:42:05]
time it rains. This is the find out there there's
just a problem, it's not it's nothing
[1:42:09]
big. It's nothing great there's a problem with
the area with the mountains and it can be fixed
[1:42:15]
cause it wasn't like that before. And it's
not an act of God. I called God, He does not
[1:42:20]
him, It's not God, It's the manuel, It's all
we need to get it fixed and we'll be happy.
Not
[1:42:26]
a problem because there was never like that
before and it is now so if we could just simply
[1:42:31]
get some information about the manuel make
sure everything is fine and go back to normal.
Now
[1:42:37]
the water does sit on top and we have to go
when it's sitting and move it around to get
it to open
[1:42:43]
back up. So something is definitely wrong.
This is not normal is not normal, especially
[1:42:48]
when the other directions everything's fine
and make no sense. It's the best in there.
[1:42:53]
We're just looking for the timeline when someone
can't come out and take a look and give us
[1:42:58]
an answer. Why this is happening simply it.
Thank you. >> Enough Noted.
[1:43:04]
>> Just wanna ask do you have the subject address
address. >> Yes the corner of St-Louis
[1:43:12]
and much right. >> Okay of flooding in the
street.
[1:43:20]
>> Just as long as we have the right right
and thank you. >> Jennifer Roy. Sir there's
in
[1:43:26]
order there's a list of names and everybody
in order you are I know. But you have to have
your
[1:43:32]
name on the list everybody gets the turn to
speak in there on the list. Okay.
[1:43:39]
>> District five with Cynthia. >> Excuse-me
Excuse-me Gentlemen. Excuse-me ok.
[1:43:45]
>> So I just wanted to ask you just cause.
I'm listening to what and I want to make sure
[1:43:53]
that you're not saying that green infrastructure
is going to replace the maintenance and the
[1:44:01]
stuff that needs to be done because it sounded
like when you were saying before like green
[1:44:07]
infrastructure that is the answer. It's the
fastest thing that we can do it is the fastest
[1:44:12]
thing. WE can do we can do a lot of that on
our own as well. I want to make sure that the
it's
[1:44:19]
the maintenance of these structures that and
the foresight of making sure that
[1:44:26]
the infrastructure is there before we're going
forward to build these big projects that is
[1:44:33]
seems to be missing. >> It's not missing I
just give you a list of huge amount of
[1:44:38]
work that has been down on the infrastructure.
I just read it out two months ago and that's
[1:44:44]
not green. That's a lot of it's great so what
I've said and I are all by myself and I have
[1:44:50]
said it quite clearly it's one possible mesure
and everybody is trying to go. You're saying
only
[1:44:56]
that I'm not only that I'm saying that's what
is the most immediate and affordable one and
[1:45:03]
that's the one and people are worried because
people are getting it. Okay. The real
[1:45:07]
simple solution to this people want to take
it into and after hours and I'm never I've
never
[1:45:13]
once said it's in order. Ok, ok. So what? I've
continually what I've continually said and
will
[1:45:19]
continue to see you now is that if people are
worried about their home right now the fastest
[1:45:25]
way to take away their concern is to come up
with the immediate solution and that's what
I'm
[1:45:33]
saying. >> Okay. I want to appreciate the course
that it's gonna be
[1:45:37]
afraid to the citizens of Pointe-Claire to
help us understand how we can mitigate.
[1:45:41]
I also want to make sure that the lack of previous
planning is not gonna be put back on the
[1:45:48]
citizens as far as if. >> Lack of what type
of previous planning.
[1:45:55]
>> Just what I mean. Essentially Environmental
assessment need to be done before anything
is built
[1:46:01]
we're looking at water that we've never seen
before all of it is seen a lot of the area
has
[1:46:07]
been developed OK. I'll give you an example
I leave next to our behind terracotta. Two
thousand
[1:46:15]
eleven is when the soccer fields were built
two thousand twelve we had water in the basement,
[1:46:23]
two thousand thirteen the city came in the
ditch next to the house on the end which would
be
[1:46:28]
one to the next to me and the water was in
the spring though it went down there. Now that
[1:46:37]
green right it has not been so now my name
is equal so the water goes down and it goes
[1:46:46]
right in your window so I mean again every
kind of thing that we put forward needs maintenance
[1:46:53]
needs to be looked after okay and I think I'm
not sure that that's the problem, but I'm I'm
[1:47:01]
saying that. >> You know it's one of many things
that we can do.
[1:47:05]
>> Fast and it doesn't take know what I mean
we could spend time with the grass considering
it
[1:47:12]
has it rain in three weeks and maybe a little
bit of diversion and some of those resources
[1:47:18]
could go afterwards digging dish in areas where
you know people are getting water and absolutely
[1:47:24]
saying. >> That and I absolutely agree and
one and one of the things
[1:47:28]
that has been noted and clear is that a lot
of the that were designed and built in the
[1:47:33]
structure of the city have been filled in and
they were green infrastructure that were
[1:47:39]
implemented probably in the fifties, you know
and it's said that a lot of that green
[1:47:43]
infrastructure has been field in. >> The city
about it to.
[1:47:46]
>> Be here and that's correct and over previous
time over time that has happened well we might
[1:47:51]
have to implement who knows I mean that that's
one potential green Infrastructure solutions.
[1:47:56]
That's all, that's a logical one and you are
quite right. Susan Weaver.
[1:48:13]
>> It's gonna be a different subject. I'm sorry
for everybody. Anyways, Mr Thomas, I
[1:48:19]
would like you to answer the questions concerning
the kilometers you put on the city
[1:48:25]
vehicles that you said under was effectively
first on you the insurance claims which I have
[1:48:33]
shows the car and for three thousand five hundred
and seven kilomètres on it at the time of
[1:48:40]
the accident. I have your credit card statement
as well and they show you feel the City Ste-Foy
[1:48:46]
hybride with at least five thousand dollars
world of gas which is around for the thousand
[1:48:52]
kilomètres. So the two numbers support each
other during your ethics violations hearing
you
[1:48:56]
said that you thought you drove a hundred kilomètres
which over the two years would have come to
[1:49:04]
about ten thousand kilomètres. So there is
missing thirty thousand kilomètres. You drove,
[1:49:10]
but did not admit to the hearing. The prosecutors
brought that up when she asked if you
[1:49:16]
thought forty three thousand kilomètres. What
about what you had driven under you said you
[1:49:21]
would be surprised If it was as much as that
you also said under hope that you are the most
[1:49:26]
honest mary in history and that you are a business
man with experience operating cars for
[1:49:32]
both business and personal us and that you
are a bit of a mathematicien, but things don't
[1:49:38]
add up can you please explain how you could
possibly not know that you must have driven
many
[1:49:45]
times over the kilometers you admitted when
you had to fill up your thanks so many times
and as
[1:49:52]
an experienced businessman. Are you are so
bad at manager expenses and your taxables cars.
[1:49:59]
How can you expect the citizens of Pointe-Claire
to trust you to manage this city.
[1:50:04]
>> Okay, That's very interesting. Supposedly
the cars had that amount of marriage and
[1:50:12]
the car was that was the mileage apparently
after the accident note before and that could
be a
[1:50:20]
fictitious number and that could not be. I
have never actually seen. WE have not produced
that.
[1:50:25]
And that is never been a number that I saw
when I had the car and it was far more than
what I
[1:50:32]
experienced in that cars and I find that number
suspicious. That's the number one answer
[1:50:36]
number two my gas molds I initially was comparable
to I have made belvedere gas molds
[1:50:45]
usage. And they were comparable but then mystery
called me last week to point out that when
you
[1:50:52]
factors in the price of gas. Et Mr. Belvedere
is time frame with the car versus my usage.
He
[1:50:59]
actually doubled my usage in actual gas receipts
he doubled it now the interesting thing
[1:51:06]
about that is that Mr. Belvedere was during
covid so he had this events to go to so I'm
just I
[1:51:13]
would like excuse me. If someone would like
to speak the microphone, they can put
[1:51:18]
themselves on the list and can and can ask
a question so what? What I'd like to point
out, Miss
[1:51:23]
Weaver is that there must have there must have
been personally because it was during covid
and
[1:51:30]
there were no events and there was it. Double
my guest consumption in the same time.
[1:51:38]
>> Friends. >> Now I didn't. Miss Miss Weaver.
I did not have I had
[1:51:44]
almost none. Okay. >> Is un point 20 point
one un Agenda on the agenda I'd like
[1:51:52]
the details for a living one on the agenda
referring to the legal peace and so when you
came
[1:51:58]
to that on the agenda could you please go into
detail. Thank you.
[1:52:04]
>> I can tell you what that is right now that
is between the city and the insurance who are
[1:52:10]
actually paying the insurance who is actually
paying the lego fees because there is our legal
[1:52:14]
fit are covered by insurance. It's no cost
to you and so the answer is now that's through
the
[1:52:22]
league of our paid by insurance. It's not it's
not the taxpayers and so those legal fees.
This is
[1:52:28]
and this is a discussion. This is an inquiry
from the answer to the city. Okay, It's got
nothing
[1:52:34]
to do with my it's got nothing to do with me.
Okay. Thank you, Miss Weaver that they can.
AT
[1:52:42]
the time is up. Okay, She's so many more to
go here well. Sorry guys my apologizes. Alright.
5.1
[1:53:04]
Je pense. >> Five points one of a bylaw Amending
Bylaw PC Twenty-nine
[1:53:12]
77 degrees in the exigibles tears for the financing
of property services and activities
[1:53:16]
offered by the City of Pointe-Claire for fiscal
year twenty twenty five the proposed
[1:53:20]
amendment are to broaden access to various
training facility with in the section regarding
[1:53:24]
the yearly membership at the old Orchard Sports
Center as well as to introduce monetary
[1:53:30]
orientation for youth aged fourteen to sixteen
who wish to use the weight training room.
[1:53:38]
>> For one do I have a mover. >> Paul Bissonnette
District. >> District trois. Or.
[1:53:51]
>> 6.1. Accorder un soutien financier pour
un montant total de 500 $ au Centre des femmes
[1:53:55]
West Island, le Centre des femmes West Island
sollicite le soutien de la ville pour
[1:53:59]
souligner ses 50 ans de service dévoués aux
femmes de notre communauté.
[1:54:03]
>> Six Point. Authorized of Equipment to the
Pointe-Claire Village commercial Association
[1:54:09]
for the Pointe-Claire Village Day of the event
will take place on August Sixteenth the
[1:54:13]
equipment being length included stage water
station temps table and share.
[1:54:17]
>> Pour 6.1 6.2 Do I have a mover. >> Une sonnette
de.
[1:54:33]
>> 6.3 Considérer une demande de révision
de la décision rendue par le comité de démolition,
[1:54:37]
laquelle refuse la requête en démolition
de l'immeuble situé au 191, chemin du bord
du lac
[1:54:42]
Lake Shore. Une demande de révision de la
décision rendue le 19 juin 2025 par le comité
de
[1:54:47]
démolition a été déposée. Cette décision
refuse la requête en démolition de l'immeuble.
[1:54:52]
L'immeuble visé par la requête n'est pas
un immeuble patrimonial. La demande de
[1:54:56]
révision a été reçue dans les délais prescrits
par le règlement relatif à la
[1:55:01]
démolition des immeubles Pc20 neuf 87. Conformément
à l'article 8.2 du règlement, le
[1:55:05]
Conseil doit se prononcer sur la demande de
révision reçue. Le Conseil peut confirmer
la
[1:55:10]
décision du comité ou prendre toute décision
que le comité aurait dû prendre.
[1:55:19]
>> For 6.3 Do I have a mover. >> OK, we are
now we. >> Have to.
[1:55:33]
>> Move Paul Bissonnette, District. >> And
I'm sorry what what What
[1:55:38]
are you actually moving, Monsieur Bissonnette.
>> And proposing the proposal
[1:55:45]
proposing to overturn the decision of the Demolition
committee and improve the
[1:55:49]
demolition of one night One Val-du-lac Lakeshore.
>> Under.
[1:55:59]
>> Over turn the decision of the Demolition
Committee and the law, the demolition of the
[1:56:04]
building located at one one. Au bord du lac
Lake Shore. >> And prior to voting would
[1:56:12]
anybody like to speak to the issue. >> I will
do my best there I
[1:56:17]
might switch between the French and english
but I have the living point here that I think
[1:56:23]
are very important first of all the world on
three occasions. That's I think it's ninety
days.
[1:56:33]
Nos objections, nos objections on that feel
it is in line with the city. This council soft
[1:56:47]
densification. There there will not be any
three cut down. Let's say it politically that
the new
[1:56:59]
building would have. Energy If you are gonna
be green for over fifty years so that compensate
[1:57:13]
for whatever is. Send to landfill or else.
It's its greeting family big family
[1:57:27]
actually for kids and that in the this council
opinion and very good thing for a long time.
[1:57:41]
This family has been stuck between. A change
of bylaw right in the middle. I don't want
to
[1:57:53]
massacre your name, Mr Derick. But. You did
due-diligence on three occasions and the third
[1:58:05]
occasion was because of the. Bylaw changes
and that is not your problem. That is not your
[1:58:13]
problem. Originally the pack committee I'll
call it that way because there is so many acronym
[1:58:21]
at approved. You're the project you had deposited
and that changes with the law. So now. I
[1:58:31]
can't say that the PAC committee is the proving
which you presented because legally. And
[1:58:41]
that became your problem that was the an event
in bederven and I don't know how that happened,
[1:58:51]
but this morning. I was having a coffee and
I was talking over at the studio Seventy seven
the
[1:58:57]
music was it loud then this morning and. And
I just happened someone in the back of me.
I'm
[1:59:07]
the guy and butterflies that are the problem
similar to your and it's all solved but with
the
[1:59:17]
world going around is that you want and I didn't
win and corps and I lost badly and he told
me.
[1:59:27]
I can't take that he told me that doing what
what he was asking where the rules of
[1:59:37]
butterflies. Custom after you more to save
all the bones. There were some arguments
[1:59:47]
bringing up that this would affect price of
property one case will affect. The price of
[1:59:59]
property with the point clé over the island
over the Provence over the Canada. Now I don't
[2:00:07]
believe that. There is in the bylaw provision
for. The responsible deconstruction and
[2:00:21]
cevable materials are satisfied and that will
be our responsibility to check on your
[2:00:29]
demolition contractors. If it's not the same
to make sure that all the available renewable
[2:00:39]
materials is treated like the bylaw. Provide
right now, we're we're trying also another
issues
[2:00:51]
around around the island around quebec again
is that we're we are we need housing and I
know
[2:01:03]
that you where you leave right now and you
will if you finally get what you ask for well
it's
[2:01:13]
gonna be that place and it's gonna be made
available to someone so. And all of this
[2:01:23]
process. All it's been followed by the letter.
By the letter is the process is quickly and
[2:01:33]
mister you can can explain it Maybe better
than I do is that you apply for a demolition.
It's
[2:01:43]
looked at the committee render the decision
and then if you. Would you object to the
[2:01:53]
decision. I have trouble with that world, but
if you object to the decision then you are
[2:02:03]
allowed to go and there's the following of
that decision. There's a procedure that permits
[2:02:13]
you to go to council where the final decision
is taken, so there's not been in my head in
[2:02:23]
my mind, there's not been any any contouring
or whatever in the end. It's council that
[2:02:35]
decide and we will do that this evening. Thank
you. >> Anybody else like to speak.
[2:02:47]
>> Goodevening. With with this file. It is
with the information. We're not
[2:02:55]
specialist, we're not engineers, we're not
architecte and we received the five key question
[2:03:03]
was asked received five documents. There's
two from the city that were from a contractor
[2:03:08]
and évaluateur immobilier professionals that
submitted to report at the city and then we
[2:03:16]
had report from the structural engineer that
was requested by the owner as well as they
à West
[2:03:24]
Island Developer builder and also the architect
a West Island architect. Three more people
[2:03:32]
that have specialization in certains fields
and my concern with the information is the
[2:03:38]
following when you open the first report is
the rapport d'inspection diagnostics and
[2:03:46]
page one under structures in limitation the
very first, it's not a sentence. It's exactly
six
[2:03:56]
words. Notre inspection est de nature visuelle.
So I mean that means it's a visual inspection
[2:04:04]
in the report. It's identified that the inspection
took one our and thirty minutes to visit the
[2:04:10]
house and come up with their reports. There
is also several areas where in the same report.
[2:04:16]
They talk about limitations Foundations Inspection
limité illimité. Parce que les
[2:04:22]
fondations ne sont pas visibles de l'intérieur,
isolé et finition Accès impossible dans
[2:04:28]
le vide et le garage. So that is quite often
where there is limitations regarding that the
[2:04:38]
other reports that we go from the consulting
is the Evaluation report at the appraisals
report.
[2:04:44]
It's called or and French now in that I just
want to get rid of that when. The page thirteen
and
[2:05:02]
the reports and the talk about the floor. Joyce
now the floor of the master bedroom is not
[2:05:10]
level as it is back into the right access to
the crawlspace beneath much of the room was
[2:05:14]
difficult. It's possible that the structure
could have a problem. Is to blame. However
[2:05:22]
the structure this is calling expert if necessary
not that there were no crack in the
[2:05:28]
interior finish of the room that would indicate
the problem now if you're doing a visual
[2:05:32]
inspection. You are looking at the wall, you
don't see anything so you are everything is
ok with
[2:05:38]
the results at that of the structural engineering.
It that looked at the building here is
[2:05:44]
his reports here. I won't read the whole thing,
but we not in the crack at the rear side and
[2:05:52]
one crack at the front side of the building
indicating differential settlement issues
[2:05:56]
with the foundation walls furthermore the floor
within the season of the house is settled
[2:06:00]
slopes and about one half for each do the rotten
woodfloor Joyce below the master bedroom.
[2:06:08]
There was a crawlspace located below the master
bedroom, which is not ventilator not insulated
[2:06:12]
and not heated the ground within the crawlspace
is exposed and to know your was detected on
the
[2:06:18]
floor of the crawlspace there for moisture
evaporate into the inadequate. Les ventilateurs
[2:06:24]
crawlspace resulting to high moisture level
within the crawlspace and which is
[2:06:28]
contributed to the power of routing of the
floor and possible mold growth problems
[2:06:33]
with in the crawlspace in conclusion the structural
integrity of this section of the
[2:06:38]
building in peril and must be demolished in
reconstructed now on the visual inspection
that
[2:06:44]
they don't see any of that they have to go
and see they didn't do it find what it's still
the
[2:06:50]
fact to take the credibility away from what
we're getting you got the page three on the
[2:07:00]
oprazole. This is page three of the appraisal
and what they say this is the sound of the
Intro
[2:07:12]
letter. If you want. It should be noted that
at the time of writing this report nobody from
[2:07:18]
specialized contractors were available this
the estimated amount for the building
[2:07:24]
renovation must be interpreted with reservation
with an us confirmed by the expertise of
[2:07:30]
the specialized contractor so that again as
far as I'm concerned, Maybe I'm wrong but
[2:07:38]
that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in
the numbers that are being produced by one
of
[2:07:46]
them is a certified operator and the other
one shattered operator. Just like to. The
[2:08:02]
question you have to be able to realize to.
À certain instant on someone and not expected
to
[2:08:08]
everybody is a crook and everybody is just
getting the check and produce garbage you
[2:08:12]
know there's years in the in the conclusion.
WE estimated the potential renovation costs
that
[2:08:20]
sixty for but I'll get back to that subject
of validation by specialized contractors. So
[2:08:26]
there again. WE need the specialized contractors.
[2:08:52]
And estimated renovation we've estimated the
potential renovation cost of the building
[2:08:58]
based on our visit and with references to the
builder diagnostic inspection report.
[2:09:01]
That's the Visual report prepared by Louise
Couture and architectes not however that the
[2:09:07]
estimated amount of this work is approximate
and will have to be validated with specialized
[2:09:12]
contractors. In addition certains hypothetical
deficiency observed should be the subject
[2:09:18]
of more specific expert appraisal and are not
included in the cost possible presence of
[2:09:22]
mold structural problems with the master floor.
So. The. The. This is the table here with the
[2:09:34]
approximate renovations cost of the building
the building was built in sixty sixty five
years
[2:09:40]
old and here in the renovation cost the estimated
renovation costs to be validated again in
[2:09:52]
brackets for the thousand 7 $ of expenses,
There's a contingency fifteen seven thousand
three
[2:10:04]
thirteen and taxes of the thousand for a total
of se. Rounded of sixty for thousand
[2:10:10]
so. Having gotten that we didn't have one of
the other reports that that were submitted
and
[2:10:20]
this is by the builders in the West Island.
This is a description is intended to
[2:10:28]
illustrate the. Just want to get it with the
record. The when I'm looking for the.
[2:10:56]
It's the body analysis for renovation description
of the projects, it's the renovation
[2:11:02]
with the existing single family residences
to bring it up to current standards remedy
any
[2:11:08]
issues requiring critical repairs to preserve
the building protect the safety of occupants
[2:11:12]
provides the statique package equivalent to
home in the areas. Full architectural engineering
[2:11:18]
engineering interior design details and specifications
will be required to produce it for
[2:11:24]
the project now there's a there's a breakdown
here of twenty one items Demolition
[2:11:32]
Foundations Framing Roof Membranes Windows
Exterior Plumbing Mechanical fireplace
[2:11:36]
are staircase interior door the old twenty
one that total five hundred and for one thousand.
[2:11:46]
That are supposed to do for the thousand that
came back from the evaluators so I mean. I
can
[2:11:54]
understand the discrepancy, but not that's
like more than ten times the difference between
the
[2:12:00]
two so I talk about confidence and your reports.
And in addition to that. WE also have
[2:12:12]
the. The report hear from the West Island architect
and I'm not gonna read all of it. It's
[2:12:22]
not that much but basically foundations pretty
important foundation has significant
[2:12:26]
cracking and settling beside the garage area
causing a large depression in the wood floor
[2:12:32]
structure of concrete column tears are crumbling
and must be replaced efflorescence is noted
[2:12:38]
on Exposed foundation surface Indicating water
filtration infiltration fuel parameters
[2:12:44]
excavations and new French drain delta membrane
should be installed causing significant
[2:12:48]
damage to the veranda driveway and the house
be renovated the foundation requires significant
[2:12:53]
work structural while the difficult to break
with photos. It's obvious outside that the
[2:12:57]
structure is falling and numerous places flowers
and roof lines sloping inside the
[2:13:02]
structural column are rotten at the base do
to the proximity of the ground structural or
[2:13:07]
components such as roof rafter the underside
and these are almost impossible to correct
[2:13:12]
without a significant structural investment
so it goes on he talks about the rough electrical
[2:13:18]
mechanical plumbing the talks about the interior
finish the insulation the fireplace the
[2:13:24]
exterior finish the roof the theory of everything
again another professionals has been
[2:13:32]
working in the West Island for a considerable
number of years and regardless of the thing
as these
[2:13:36]
are people that belongs to a profession and
there's supposed to have credibility so you
you
[2:13:40]
can't just push through this inside. C'est
how I know, I know it's not important in the
other
[2:13:44]
thing the last thing. WE have is this also
showing the sustainability that was prepared
[2:13:54]
regard the recovery recycling building materials
and components all after will be
[2:13:58]
made to salvage any item the value and there's
other items plumbing fixtures cabinets and
[2:14:04]
wiring Windows will be made available to architectural
salvage company what regarde
[2:14:08]
energy efficiency and sustainability the new
project clearly superior to the existing
[2:14:13]
building thermal insulation value of the floor
Wall Roof Assembly will be for the
[2:14:18]
exceeding home and meet all the current standards
for isolation ventilation is also dramatically
[2:14:23]
improved with both superior mechanical systems
and fresh air exchanger with no roof with roof
[2:14:30]
soft detailing. The proposed also to be built
with the highest quality materials
[2:14:36]
incorporating the latest construction detailing
to ensure longevity so when you look at
[2:14:42]
all that and the house was approved by the
PC, which is composed of clear resistance,
[2:14:50]
including correct. Architect. On the PC. Anyway.
So. So you can't do it was more than that it
was
[2:15:06]
anyway. There was there. >> Backgrounds and.
>> There are there are some that
[2:15:13]
I thought that was for I used to be there and
I'm not that this year so I'm not know what
I want
[2:15:17]
what we had this architect on that professional
architect not designer or stuff and so anyway.
[2:15:25]
So you look at all this information and you
say well you know for the thousand dollars
[2:15:31]
and then you look at all the rest of this stuff
so there for there's no way that I'm prepared
[2:15:35]
to. Prepare to do that's why I proposed to
do not approve of the reverse. If you want
it the
[2:15:45]
demolition the committee. Decisions and I agree
with the demolition. Thank you.
[2:15:55]
>> Anybody else like to speak Yes, you can.
>> And I'm afraid. I'm going to
[2:16:04]
you a little bit longer. I'm on the demolition
committee and I voted at the time to do. Refused
[2:16:13]
the demolition. I know it's a very sensitive
issue and I know that the feeling and lives
of
[2:16:20]
the Americans. Are you know held up waiting
for this process to work. It's true and I sympathise
[2:16:26]
with them. And I sympathise with you all cause
I'm going to read my reason. Analysis for what
to
[2:16:36]
support the decision that the Demolition committee
made in advance for its links and I also
[2:16:42]
apologize that it seems a little clinical.
I want but that's the nature of reason arguments
so I
[2:16:51]
apologize if it seems like sympathy and I do
sympathise the appeal of the decision to refuse
[2:17:00]
autorisation for the demolition Lake Shore
is a critical test of council's resolve to
confirm its
[2:17:05]
commitment to the demolition bylaw it anonymously
past and January of this year the
[2:17:10]
language that replaced the old below was specifically
crafted to set a much here bar for
[2:17:16]
demolition to be approved. This is made in
the préambule with state that prior to the
ultimate
[2:17:22]
record to demolition the committee will give
priority priority to the renovations to
[2:17:28]
the restoration or to the review of the existing
buildings from the sustainability and carbon
[2:17:32]
footprint reduction perspective. When the building
is reasonably possible particularly in terms
[2:17:38]
of the investment required so she is reasonable
reasonable when reduced to the essential
[2:17:46]
point the basis of this is simple, It is the
argument that the committee here when it
[2:17:52]
refused to the demolition permit by giving
disproportion weight to the restoration cost
of
[2:18:00]
thousand dollars contained in the Evaluation
report Dated three October twenty twenty four
[2:18:04]
and prepared by the accredited professionals
Real-estate evaluators Paris Ladouceur the
[2:18:10]
report States that the building is of standard
to good quality and that it's physical
[2:18:16]
conditions is above average for its age the
inspection found no serious deficiency that
could
[2:18:21]
impact the property overall integrity. However,
it does not that some repair and maintenance
[2:18:27]
work as well as improvement must be carried
out to preserve the buildings conditions. It
should
[2:18:36]
be noted that when the applicants chose to
take the this case the core after the
[2:18:42]
last round through the demolition committee
and the appeal following the council
[2:18:46]
both to uphold the demolition committee decision.
This file was all communication were
[2:18:52]
conducted then exclusively through direct communications
between the Apple and the City
[2:18:58]
were significantly reduced to allow the legal
process to run its course. It is apparent that
[2:19:02]
there have been graves and regrettables misunderstandings
regarding both the initial
[2:19:07]
demolition requests and the process, which
I'm sure a lot of it had to do with that lawyers
[2:19:12]
is getting in the middle. It is clear that
the Evaluation report is widely misunderstood
[2:19:22]
according to the accredited professional real-estate
evaluators Paris Ladouceur et
[2:19:28]
associés. The estimated renovation costs as
I said before it before thousand
[2:19:30]
dollars. This is not considered modernisons
upgrading or enlarging the building through
[2:19:36]
renovations the restoration costs included
in the previous report cover work required
to
[2:19:42]
fix only the identified deficiency so that
the building will be in good condition
[2:19:47]
consider basic maintenance works such as the
replacement of some older Windows railings
doors and
[2:19:54]
minor kitchen renovations the structures at
one night in one Lake Shore was built in sixty
[2:20:00]
and when I knew it had an expected economic
life of five years ahead of it at the time
of
[2:20:06]
the Evaluation. It was for years old in elapsed
time but because of continued car it's apparent
[2:20:12]
age was just thirty-five and it still had three
years of economic life ahead of it
[2:20:18]
according to the report the sixties for thousand
dollars renovation costs only address
[2:20:24]
restoring economic life and does not included
in any update or improvement it establish the
[2:20:30]
cost of resulting ground zero for any additional
work including update improvement and
[2:20:36]
enlargement the appelant that the engineers
report that they commission recommend the
[2:20:42]
building should be demolished a close reading
of the report reveals that it's not exactly
[2:20:46]
what was recommended the report conclude that
the structural integrity at one section of
the
[2:20:52]
building is imperial and must be demolished
and reconstructed. This is a partial demolition
[2:20:56]
only and very well be accomplished without
recourse to the demolition request process
[2:21:02]
the state that it appears the committee has
improperly used the appelant feel to advance
its
[2:21:08]
own political or policy preference regarding
demolition practices in the city rather
[2:21:14]
than applying the governing below in the objectives
inconsistant manner for
[2:21:18]
substantiation this charge. Realize entirely
on the aplomb mistaken rejection of the
[2:21:22]
accredited professionals evaluator findings
and the assumptions that the committee
[2:21:26]
decision-making process was not further supported
by the city own professionals staff the
[2:21:32]
committee would most certainly be in violation
of the principle of administrative neutrality
and
[2:21:38]
good faith decision-making as the employees.
It was if it were to summary ignore or overwrite
[2:21:46]
those findings as they would have us do the
aplomb was publicly question has publicly
[2:21:52]
question the very competencies of the committee
members to make the decision regarding
[2:21:56]
demolition such decisions should be made by
professional engineers. However, the law
[2:22:02]
itself will not allow this it requires demolition
decisions by made in public by committee of
[2:22:08]
Elected Council review the report of professional
Engineers and evaluators and where needed
[2:22:14]
we received further interpretation and explanation
from the City professional staff.
[2:22:20]
Some decisions will be determined by the considered
subjected criteria that is true
[2:22:26]
the entry of subjective elements in such decision
is precisely. Why the law requires all
[2:22:33]
demolition decisions by made in the public
meeting by elected officials and that does
this
[2:22:40]
must be substantial in the case of one night
one lake Shore. There was actually very little
[2:22:46]
room for subjectivity the demolition by law.
Established significant waiting and favour
[2:22:52]
of renovation restoration or reduce over demolition
the evaluator report finds that with
[2:22:58]
the reasonable investment of sixty for thousand
dollars. Significant extensions to the
[2:23:05]
economic life of the building can be established
this satisfy the names of the demolition
[2:23:10]
below council. Unanime usually past just over
six months ago The basis of this appeal is
the
[2:23:16]
assertion that the accredited professionals
evaluated does not understand this. Profession
or
[2:23:22]
the committee member benefit from the analysis
provided them by our own professional staff
[2:23:27]
still do not understand the objectives basis
of their decisions further review
[2:23:32]
following the appeal complemented with the
additional analysis provided by the
[2:23:36]
planning staff makes it very clear to make
the demolition committee made the correct
[2:23:42]
decisions. If the establishment methodology
is ignored and the decision substantial be
very
[2:23:46]
clear economic factor is over turned than so
two is the methodology established by the
[2:23:52]
new by law and review by the water. This november
there will be consequences to a sustainable
[2:23:58]
environment and the future accessibility of
our housing stocks the middle class family.
[2:24:04]
Thank you. >> Just make sure there anybody
else like to speak just before I
[2:24:13]
let the Council Council Tremblay. You want
to see anything at some point.
[2:24:19]
>> Outside of just started with the common
made by counselor account. Thank you.
[2:24:27]
>> Just specify in the here. It's stated, it's
the valuation report estimate of the potential
[2:24:37]
renovation costs we made in estimate of the
potential renovation costs of this
[2:24:43]
building and that's what they get down estimated
renovation costs for thousands. Thank you.
[2:24:51]
>> So have we came to the votes. I guess we've
come to vote. Before we do so. I'm trying to
[2:24:59]
calculate the map here in the event of I could
possibly vote and make a toy I think that
[2:25:05]
maybe the possibility also I can't predict
how everybody's gonna vote. So I could just
[2:25:11]
austin and let it go. However, you know those
who would like to preserve the. The decision
of
[2:25:21]
the demolition committee with probably like
me to do so if we're one vote down now the
[2:25:27]
political side of me would say just let it
go and let the council decide the outcome,
but
[2:25:33]
I I'm gonna speak to this and tell you my decision
and how I feel on this issue anyhow. I had
[2:25:39]
a great not a great but it's very informative
that I don't think there any issues. We've
[2:25:45]
kicked around as much as this particular issue
and it was a very interesting discussion and
[2:25:49]
I thought the counselor on all sides were explain
and fair and informed on this debate and we
[2:25:57]
had one of our better debates at the council
on this issue and I think going forward, we're
going
[2:26:03]
to be this decision will be this kind of which
will be with on a on a better on a more qualified
[2:26:11]
following where will. Will. Will have better
ground work to work with power of what's happening
[2:26:17]
Here is this family who is coming with the
change in the law and demolition and it was
[2:26:21]
going one-way before the change you want another
way after and that made it problematic for
[2:26:27]
them, which I think this is unfortunate, but
part of the reality. I. AM not to vote for
[2:26:39]
this. I have to strongly vote for it because
and I be going against the majority of the
[2:26:45]
council. I mean it. I think it's going to vote
protect the vote going in one direction and
I
[2:26:49]
don't want to do it would have to be very serious
for me to overturn the majority of the
[2:26:57]
counselor and I think a lot of them are really
presented themselves very well factual so
[2:27:01]
you know I'm in a spot here, but I will say
that I'm there was discrepancy in numbers here
and
[2:27:09]
the science. I'm not an expert but from my
take on what's going on and all this debates.
I'm not
[2:27:15]
convinced one way or the other on the numbers
on whether it's beyond life for it needs to
be
[2:27:23]
knocked down and it's not ready or it's not
feasible renovate or save. I do agree with
the
[2:27:29]
principle of the new law that we should not
have perfectly sound who was getting good house
is
[2:27:37]
getting knock down and going to landfill, which
has I think the promise of the law and I think
[2:27:41]
it's a good time and I agree with it. I'm not
sure, that's the case here some people are
[2:27:45]
you? It is. I'm not sure and I'm not an expert,
but I'm not sure. That's the case here. I'm
[2:27:51]
learning and I don't have enough solide information.
I must have come back with a lot of
[2:27:55]
information and work very hard to provide information
to contradict our experts and I'm
[2:28:03]
not sure who is right are wrong. I'm not I'm
maybe not good enough, I'm not enough to go
one
[2:28:09]
way and the other on it but what I will say
is that the family had a lot of has been been
to be
[2:28:15]
change this way to the end of a long time.
If I vote and make it a try it's gonna drive
the
[2:28:23]
process out even further and it's gonna go
through another elections and this family which
[2:28:29]
is waiting for a long time we'll have to wait
and even longer time and you know the case
is
[2:28:37]
being made at their expense and that par Disturbed
me because I've been through a and with me
[2:28:45]
resolve this issue on the next one would be
my conclusion on this if we have to take our
by
[2:28:53]
law and this issue because I mean there are
cracks and that is still, I think we don't
we
[2:28:59]
don't deal with héritage adequately in our
demolition below and there is a propensity
[2:29:05]
and clear history to knock down things to quickly.
So whether this is the house to leave and
[2:29:11]
then I'm not sure. It is I mean there are two
years and now that went through that were
[2:29:17]
potentially. Everything is this one is the
tricky one Okay so in my opinion. I will just
it's not
[2:29:25]
strong enough for me to make this family wait
another year. If you are at their own expenses
[2:29:31]
on their time and we can try and tighten that
blow up in the next administration. So that
we don't
[2:29:37]
go through what we're just going through I
think it is to the demolition committee. They
[2:29:41]
worked genuinely and superb with the information
that they were given and provided and I don't
[2:29:47]
want to undermines the after. After I think
that there were willingly doing something wrong
[2:29:53]
they were living up to the battle of that was
presented to them and many ways so I just for
[2:29:59]
two for the reasons I've just elaborated and
I don't think this is the project to leave
it
[2:30:05]
down and I don't I think the family been through
enough and I think I will postpone it to the
[2:30:09]
next one that would be my opinion and it's
so all those in favour of the Demolition
[2:30:16]
committee decisions. All all of those of over
turning those those opposed. Keys and I will
[2:30:30]
obtained from voting. Thank you. La prochaine
madame Thibault. >> Pour clarté, pour fins
de
[2:30:40]
clarté pour tous les gens dans la dans la
salle et ceux qui nous écoutent. La décision
du
[2:30:45]
comité de démolition et la décision du comité
de démolition est renversée et la démolition
[2:30:51]
est autorisée. 11.1 Autoriser une demande
de. >> 10.1. Feel the list of budget
[2:31:00]
amendement and the registry of check for the
period of doing twenty-six twenty twenty five
to
[2:31:05]
july until it twenty twenty five. >> 11.1.
Autoriser une demande
[2:31:11]
de conciliation et d'arbitrage éventuelle
auprès du bureau du syndic du Barreau du Québec
[2:31:15]
concernant des honoraires d'avocat dans le
dossier CMQ sept un cinq six cinq Tiret zéro
[2:31:20]
zéro un pour la facture, la facturation numéro
deux zéro cinq trois zéro huit huit un. La
[2:31:26]
loi oblige la municipalité à assumer la défense
ou la représentation d'un membre du
[2:31:31]
Conseil lorsque ce dernier fait l'objet d'un
recours judiciaire. Dans le dossier CMQ sept
un cinq
[2:31:36]
six cinq Tiret zéro zéro un impliquant le
maire Tim Thomas. La ville assume donc les
[2:31:42]
honoraires d'avocat de Monsieur Thomas et l'assureur
de la ville rembourse les frais raisonnables
[2:31:48]
jusqu'à un maximum de 100 zéro cents avec
une franchise de 25 000 $ payable par la ville.
[2:31:54]
Or, une facture reçue soulève des questionnements
quant à la raisonnabilité des montants
[2:32:00]
facturés et la Ville entend demander l'intervention
du bureau du syndic du Barreau afin
[2:32:04]
de faire réviser les montants. >> Pour 11.1.
Do I have a over. >> Cousineau District un.
[2:32:20]
>> Absolutely the. Early and perhaps to clarify
what the city explained the law requires when
[2:32:30]
the legal action against the maire, the law
requires that the city needs to cover those
costs
[2:32:39]
in the American pie themselves and be reimbursed
or the city is covered directly we're also
[2:32:46]
covered by an insurance policy, which is the
value of the hundred thousand dollars with
a
[2:32:52]
thousand dollars déductible and in this case
what happened from the way it is. I think this
is
[2:32:58]
for there's a bill for two thousand dollars
that is being the spot.
[2:33:02]
>> The third Bill Sixty-five thousand. >> Years
Bill for sixty-five
[2:33:05]
thousand dollars where the insurance company
is a little uncomfortable with the way, the
[2:33:11]
words are reported and what? What the what
would that was all for so the insurance company.
Is
[2:33:17]
suggesting that perhaps I would like to have
a review and it's also suggesting that if that
[2:33:25]
sixty-five thousand dollars that they make
not pay or not and pay for it. I've got it
right. I got
[2:33:33]
it right. >> At the city. >> WE will not rembourse.
[2:33:37]
Expenses. So the process now is what were proving
is to have this go to some formal
[2:33:45]
arbitration that which will look at that arbitration
of this review, which will look at the
[2:33:49]
legal bill and make a determination or recommendations
whether they think it's
[2:33:55]
suffisant or try to. Negotiate better. Tabling
of what the cost were in our build for and
we had
[2:34:07]
to respect the deadline from when the bill
was submitted to pass in this resolution. If
we
[2:34:13]
didn't do it then we won't be able to going
forward and so what we are still waiting for
is
[2:34:19]
the law firm to decide whether they will on
their own without going to this process list
all
[2:34:27]
the gives the listing of all the expanse all
of all the our build that I get that.
[2:34:32]
>> I almost if I just just have this thing
the first step is the consolidation and if
the
[2:34:42]
consolidation false. WE will have and arbitration
with three a bunch of three people that
[2:34:49]
will decide in arbitration. >> So just to be
clear. This is a discussion between the insurer
[2:34:59]
and the city has to billing and cost is what
this. >> Is between the city insurance
[2:35:06]
and the law. >> And the Lawford. Just so you
know so that's so the answer is
[2:35:12]
inquiring has to billing and to cost, which
is the normal process. So twelve 12.1.
[2:35:21]
>> WE have to vote on. >> That I do it with
all of favor. All against. Hockey 12.1.
[2:35:35]
>> One of the list of not delegate of August
twelve twenty twenty five 12.2.
[2:35:42]
>> Déposer la liste des changements personnels
par décision déléguée pour le mois
[2:35:46]
d'août 2025. >> Draft Collective Agreement
for Pointe-Claire White Collar
[2:35:52]
Employees for the period of January first twenty
twenty tries to december thirty first
[2:35:56]
twenty twenty at the City of Pointe-Claire
has more than the white collar employees,
[2:36:00]
including one hundred fifteen permanent employees
and fifteen auxiliary employees the
[2:36:04]
employment contract between the Syndicat des
fonctionnaires municipaux de Montréal and
the
[2:36:08]
City of Pointe-Claire. Expired on December
thirty first twenty twenty two a series of
some
[2:36:12]
thirty meetings world to reach an agreement
leading to the ritual of a collective of
[2:36:16]
collective agreement The white collar employees
accepted the draft collective agreement by
[2:36:20]
the majority of both at the general meeting
held on July third twenty twenty five to come
[2:36:24]
into the new collective Collective agreement
must be approved by council.
[2:36:30]
>> For two one, two two three do I have a mover.
>> Bruno Tremblay, District six.
[2:36:40]
>> 14.1. Se prévaloir de l'option de renouvellement
prévue au contrat intervenue
[2:36:45]
avec Entreprise Vaillant en 1994, Inc. Pour
la saison hivernale 2025 2026 au montant
[2:36:49]
de 482 691,72 $ sous taxes incluses pour la
location avec opérateur d'équipement de
[2:36:57]
déneigement. Il s'agit de la période la première
période de renouvellement sur deux prévues
[2:37:01]
au contrat. >> Contract for pruning and cabling
works that in our really
[2:37:05]
right for twenty twenty five season Two services
d'arbres Primeau Inc. For the total
[2:37:09]
amount of thousand one hundred and two and
for taxes included these works consists of
pruning
[2:37:14]
and three located on residential property within
the municipal right away and in the city parks
[2:37:19]
and green spaces. >> 14.3 Confirmer l'adhésion
de la ville de Pointe-Claire au
[2:37:23]
regroupement de la Ville de Montréal pour
la fourniture d'essence ordinaire et super
[2:37:27]
pour la période du 4 janvier 2026 au 3 janvier
2029, avec deux périodes optionnelles de
[2:37:32]
douze mois chacune. La ville a déjà adhéré
à un tel regroupement. La consommation
[2:37:35]
pour l'année 2024 s'est élevée à 253 260
$, taxes incluses. La dépense pour l'année
2026 est
[2:37:41]
conditionnelle à l'approbation du budget.
>> The Edition of the City of
[2:37:47]
Pointe-Claire to the STM Group Group purchase
for the supply of the diesel standard and for
[2:37:51]
generator for the period of February for twenty
twenty six to January thirty first twenty
[2:37:57]
twenty nine with two years of two months each
the city has previously join such group
[2:38:01]
pretty consumption for the year twenty twenty
for I of two for it thousand for dollars taxes,
[2:38:07]
including the expenditure for the year twenty
twenty six is conditional approval.
[2:38:11]
>> 14.5 Confirmer l'adhésion de la Ville de
Pointe-Claire au Regroupement du Centre
[2:38:15]
d'acquisitions gouvernementales pour l'achat
de pneus neufs Rechapés et Remoulés pour
la
[2:38:19]
période du premier avril 2026 au 31 mars 2029.
La Ville désire adhérer à ce regroupement
pour
[2:38:25]
se procurer les différents pneus requis pour
ces opérations, le tout selon les besoins
et les
[2:38:29]
quantités estimés nécessaires à ces activités.
>> Six Exercice. Renewal option
[2:38:33]
for provided for in the contract enter into
with Roxboro Excavation, Inc. For the twenty
[2:38:39]
twenty five twenty twenty six winter season
in the amount of one million hundred thousand
two
[2:38:44]
hundred and taxes included for snow removal
in the Industrial Park and Greenwich District.
[2:38:49]
This is the first of two, two renewal period.
>> For one to have another.
[2:39:01]
>> Thorsten Colin district, Three. >> Bruno
Tremblay District six.
[2:39:07]
>> 15.1 Se prévaloir de l'option de renouvellement
prévue au contrat intervenu avec
[2:39:11]
Quincaillerie Notre-Dame Inc. Pour la période
du premier septembre 2025 au 31 août 2026
[2:39:17]
au montant de 78 232,83 $ sous taxes incluses
pour la fourniture et la livraison de
[2:39:21]
pièces, outils, matériaux et équipements
en menuiserie. Il s'agit de la première et
unique
[2:39:27]
période de renouvellement. >> Award Contract
for Professional Service for
[2:39:31]
Construction works related to the City, Rooftop
Guard real and warning lines to the Barranco
[2:39:37]
Pino et Barres Varin, Inc. For the total amount
of one hundred thousand dollars and one cents
[2:39:42]
taxes included. >> 15.3 Octroyer un contrat
pour des travaux de réfection de
[2:39:47]
toiture du chalet Parc Hermitage à toiture
trois étoiles Inc. Pour un montant total de
quatre
[2:39:53]
20 471 $, taxes incluses, La toiture du chalet
a atteint sa fin de vie utile.
[2:39:57]
>> Pour Order to the contract enter into it
groupe pichet for repair works and partial
[2:40:03]
redevelopment of the value of library baseman
for in the mouth of one hundred thousand one
[2:40:11]
hundred fifty one thousand seven hundred and
taxes included. The change is involved electrical
[2:40:14]
architectural ventilation and plumbing works.
>> 15.5 Approuver une
[2:40:17]
modification au contrat intervenu avec construction
Tolva pour le réaménagement des
[2:40:19]
suites de bureaux du service de l'inspection
et de la sécurité publique et de l'unité
de
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sauvetage volontaire de Pointe-Claire pour
un montant de 89 895 $ et 64 sous taxes
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incluses. Les modifications touchent des travaux
d'électricité, d'architecture,
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de structure et de mécanique. >> Pour 15.1
à 15.5. Do I have a motor.
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>> District huit. >> In secondaire district.
>> Order to the contract enter
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into with construction CBP, Inc. For the extension
and renovations of public works for
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an amount of nine thousand for one dollars
taxes included the change involved electrical
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architectural structural mechanical and of
engineering works.
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>> For point six do I have a mover. Alignement
OK those against all
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against. You can both. >> You against Mister
Cousineau. >> I just Okay, so I'm I'm all
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those against there we go that you. Okay. >>
17 Donc, les personnes
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présentes peuvent s'adresser au conseil pour
les items 17.1 et 17.2. The Persons President
mais
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Address council on item seven in one and Seventeen
point two. >> 17.1 Considérer une.
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>> Demande Someone who would like to help from
the microphone now not from the site it's so
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everybody at home can hear. >> I just for what
you say and then where do you have to talk
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first. >> You go ahead now. I think she speaks
now the. Before we want
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it now, it's the time. >> For this I leave
you one hillcrest so I was just going to
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see the outcome of the decision and then maybe
on it if it doesn't go my way.
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>> So for that you we'll have to sit and wait
for the decision if you have more comments
to add
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feel free to make them. >> But I. >> What do
have to try and to
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go. >> OK at my house were doing work to increase
the home
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insulation and the green energy of it we leave
right next to the highway. So now it is a big
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issue which is why we are really doing this
work in the first part. WE are also changing
the
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exterior colour of the house, which I think
was the main issue with our purement application.
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We've settled for a new colour that the committee
suggested that I was told the committee
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suggested to the light of colour than what
we originally wanted to much our neighbor colour
of
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two doors down. It's the exact same colour
same thing that that is the council and make
it go
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our way the work is necessary to do in the
home. The chimney really have to come off because
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it's the structural damaged and so we're structuring
the rest of the work to improve the
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efficiency of the home so that is why we are
asking for this it. Thank you.
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>> Could we just have your name for the Kimberly.
>> Colette.
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>> 17.1 Considérer une demande de dérogation
mineure concernant la propriété située au
61,
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avenue Hillcrest. La recommandation du Comité
consultatif d'urbanisme est à
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l'effet de permettre de la peinture sur la
brique, alors que cela n'est pas permis.
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>> Request for conditional us concerning the
property of that one something you the
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recommendation is to allow the business administrative
office and online travel agency as in
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additional us in the single family detached
home with certaines conditions.
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>> Port 17.1 17.2 Do I have a mover. >> Bruno
Tremblay, District six.
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>> District. >> Of Improving. >> 17.3. Considérez
les plans
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d'implantation et d'intégration architecturale
relatif à la propriété située au 290 chemin
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du bord du lac Lakeshore. C'est pour des rénovations
extérieures de la suite. 104 Le studio
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Crevier La recommandation du Comité consultatif
d'urbanisme est à l'effet d'approuver les
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plans. >> Architectural Integration Program
Plans with respect to
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the Property Situated at Twenty-three Circle
avenue. This is for a one floor extension as
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well as exterior renovation to the existing
house and the planning advisory committee
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recommendations is to improve the plan 17.5.
>> Considérer les plans
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d'implantation et d'intégration architecturale
relatif à la propriété située au 123, avenue
[2:45:12]
Donegani pour une modification de la terrasse
commerciale, soit par l'ajout d'une pergola.
La
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recommandation du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme
est à l'effet d'approuver les plans.
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>> For Seventeen Point trois The seventh do
have them over. >> That the Council accept
the
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recommendation of the planning advisory committee
for those three items and the planning,
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the planning architectural integration plan.
>> And secondary.
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>> Saint Romain. >> Of the side planning and
architectural integration
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program plans with respect to the property
situated sixty-one hillcrest avenue. This is
for
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exterior renovations and window replacement
The planning Advisory committee
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recommendations is to approve the plan. >>
17.7. Considérer les plans
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d'implantation et d'intégration architecturale
relatif à la propriété située au 438 avenue
[2:46:05]
St-Louis, pour une nouvelle construction d'une
habitation unifamiliale, la recommandation
[2:46:10]
du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme est à l'effet
d'approuver les plans.
[2:46:14]
>> Point of the Sight Planning and architectural
integration program plan with respect to the
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property of Situated at à Saint-Louis Avenue.
This is for a new construction of a single
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family Dwelling The Planning Advisory Committee
Recommendations is to approuve
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the plan. >> 17.9 Considérer les plans d'implantation
et d'intégration
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architecturale relatif à la propriété située
au 26, avenue Weston Circle, pour une nouvelle
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construction d'une habitation unifamiliale.
La recommandation du Comité consultatif
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d'urbanisme est à l'effet d'approuver les
plans. >> Sept point 6.1 District.
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>> Bruno Tremblay Seigneurie. District. >>
Adopte a resolution for a
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specific construction alterations or occupancy
proposal for inamovible at
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Eighteen dix Source boulevard Authorized in
the construction of a new building and the
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development of the manitoulin transport slight
in several phases. This is the final
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adoption. >> Pour 17.10 do I have a over. >>
Huit Bissonnette District.
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>> Closer Closer for closure do I have a mover.
>> District for.
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>> District trois. >> Or. Merci tout le monde.
C'était long et peut être
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ennuyeux, mais thank you for your patience
and in your stamina.