[1:57] >> Mr. Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, can you turn on your microphone for the video, please?

[2:03] >> Good evening everyone. Thank you for coming out. I know why you're here, and there's a lot

[2:08] of emotions and stuff going on, but we have a lot to cover. We'll get through it, we'll get

[2:12] through it together, and we'll give you the opportunity to be heard. But let me start my

[2:17] opening statements. Then we'll get to the nitty gritty after. So, Madame de Monsieur. Ladies

[2:24] and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to the July 26th Regular Council meeting. A note

[2:31] to our community. I dermont Touchet. Revenir sur les qui se sont habitués, sir. No

[2:42] territoire de near. First, I want to address the residents who were affected. We know that

[2:48] events like this are difficult, but also cause a great deal of stress. On behalf of the

[2:52] members of Municipal Council, I want you to know that our thoughts are with you and that

[2:57] we are fully aware of what many of you are still going through. Since this event on. Our

[3:04] municipal teams have been mobilized in the field to support recovery operations,

[3:08] including the collection of flood related debris. In the face of the situation, we have

[3:13] also seen our community come together, neighbors supporting one another and checking in on

[3:17] each other. Those gestures say a great deal about the strength of our community. Come voulez

[3:24] vous avez la ville de plusieurs from afin de mieux adaptation of the territoire or de

[3:32] printemps? Je peux vous les membres de Conseil et le administration sont mobilisés

[3:37] pour faire progresser le dossier de la gestion de la. PVA, qui est un grande priorité.

[3:43] These efforts are. Maintenant dans un plan de action structure et autour de trois

[3:50] access concrete. The first access focuses on better informing residents, helping

[3:56] better understand the impacts of heavy rainfall, and learn how to prepare for these

[4:01] situations. Three public conferences were held in 2025 and 26 to present best

[4:07] practices for making homes more resilient. The recordings are available online through our

[4:12] website. The Access Port LA Port Infrastructure Municipality, La collaboration

[4:20] avec la école de technologie supérieure pour oser sa sur un plan de gestion des eaux PVA a.

[4:29] Investigated on the project infrastructure qui permet de mieux retenir absorbé depuis.

[4:37] Vincent du projet. Sont a l'heure de la bioretention dans les. L'avenue Elgin et la

[4:46] Avenue a la. Vegetables. Vegetation Avenue, Winthrop, un des autres importants sont

[5:00] encore an investment de plus de two milliards de dollars a parc naturel terracotta terracotta

[5:06] aussi un projet reconstruction de la Avenue, Ivanhoe Crescent. The third access aims to

[5:13] support residents in adapting their properties. This evening, council will be asked to adopt

[5:19] a financial assistance program to support the installation of rainwater retention and

[5:23] absorption absorption measures on residential properties. This program will allow eligible

[5:29] homeowners to receive financial assistance, covering 50% of the value of eligible work, up to a

[5:34] maximum of $5,000 per property by the end of the summer. This financial support will become

[5:41] complemented by an advisory service offered in collaboration with the Echo

[5:45] Echo Habitacion, to help homeowners identify the measures best suited for their

[5:51] situation. This is a concrete and a. Plan d'action pour les sur le territoire Elle. Dans

[6:03] Notre volonté de jeu de facon de lab and collective for foresight. Naissance de pointe

[6:11] Claire. So that's part of what we're going to be talking about later on this evening. We'll

[6:16] get to all the fine details when we hear your questions and your concerns, sir, no more

[6:22] positive Jimmy. Jam jam. Maintenant vous parle de quelque chose de développement.

[6:29] C'est la vie de Notre communauté. First, I would like to highlight the recent opening

[6:34] of a supermarket in Pointe Claire. I hope if you have you had a chance to go to it? Show

[6:39] you. Raise your hands. Are you happy just to let you know we've met with them and they're

[6:45] so, so happy. Of the people in Pointe Claire, they just love us. They're they we're

[6:50] supporting them. They feel energized. And they're, they're really, really community

[6:53] leaders. So don't be shy. If you have any suggestions, comments, talk to them and

[6:58] become friends with them. They're good people. We're very pleased to welcome this new

[7:02] business to Valois. This opening reflects the vitality of this area and provides new

[7:06] options for residents. It's a wonderful addition to our community and we wish them

[7:10] every success. Historical buildings on the prochaine Coupe de petites. Les photos de

[7:22] les Propriétaires heritage, qui a fait le passé maison qui considered a heritage list qui

[7:35] sont de la ville memorial. Les photos les maisons. So see the war on terror photos. They'll

[7:42] be they'll be identified, but they're building an inventory and a. Of all their properties

[7:47] and then and then documenting everything. So in the next little while, you might see

[7:52] people coming around taking pictures of your house. If it's heritage, there's over about

[7:56] 300 houses on this list of Montreal came up with last year, and there's been a couple 100

[8:01] on another alternative list that they haven't decided if they are or they aren't. In the

[8:05] meantime, they're going around to take pictures to put them in an inventory and, and build up

[8:09] a dossier on them so they'll be identified. And if you have any questions or concerns and

[8:14] you're not sure, you can call public security at 6301234 and they'll tell you if they're

[8:19] legit or not. As you see. Merci. Tout le monde, les citoyens. Qui a été avec le fait

[8:28] nationale Saint-Jean-Baptiste et la fete de Canada, the premier Juliette. So I'd like

[8:32] to thank everybody citizens, volunteers, employees who made the celebrations happy kind of

[8:37] rained a little bit. But you know what? It was impressive how many people still stuck

[8:41] around the park and came out and enjoy the festivities. And the fete Nationale

[8:46] Saint-Jean-Baptiste went off without a hitch. Beautiful day and everybody enjoyed it. So

[8:50] thank you to everybody. Another thing I'd like to just mention employees barbecue the barbecue,

[8:58] please. Employee say circa on a Plusieurs employee p pour la ville de Pointe-Claire mais de.

[9:10] The person or so barbecue has come de nouveaux relation start new relationships. It gets

[9:19] people talking. Gets people to know each other. We have, you know, hundreds of employees and

[9:23] they work in all different departments. So it's a time of year that they get together and

[9:27] chit chat and have fun. And it was a great success. And that too, we got hit by a big

[9:32] rainstorm and stuff was flying around and everything that day, but that was the last ten

[9:36] minutes. So it was it was a success. So it was very positive. All right. Let me

[9:47] just make sure I didn't forget anything. I had one other thing, but I don't know where it is.

[9:57] Okay, good. I'm going to go around the table and ask if the councilors have any comments.

[10:01] Mr. stock, do you have anything you'd like to say first? >> Well, as a representative of

[10:06] Northview, I'll address the monkey in the room. Obviously the rainfall was horrible. I

[10:12] recognized many of you that I saw in the streets that night. I could tell you that that

[10:19] everything is being looked at at Winthrop and Hymas. You know, it's we're looking at

[10:24] everything that was done. I was flooded myself once again. And the water mitigations issues

[10:31] must continue. And I firmly tell you from the bottom of my heart that Pointe-Claire is

[10:36] doing the best we can for the last little while. And if you believe I saw many of you, I

[10:41] visited many of you. I was walking there. I was 1145, and I'm not going to explain what I

[10:46] did. And I'm not looking for empathy. But there's two things that are important here. I

[10:50] visited 46 homes the the day after in the last three weeks, let's just say there was 100

[10:58] homes that were flooded. There was 25% who have never been flooded before just by the

[11:03] sheer water mitigation that existed. And just, you know, as your representative in

[11:09] Northview and for the other citizens on my page, I will be holding after this. I've spoken

[11:14] to many of you about the Eagle Habitation project, which is coming through, which will be

[11:19] approved today. And then the, I guess the the door will be unlatched for, you know, next

[11:25] couple of days for inquiries and submissions, I will be holding a teams meeting in the

[11:32] next week, week and a half to explain exactly what the Eagle Habitation program is and at

[11:38] the same time having a good understanding of the water mitigation issues. You know,

[11:44] what can or what should be done and, and what we need to do to move forward. This is an US

[11:50] problem. We can't lift the city and change all the pipes. Okay. It's, you know, as Karl's right

[11:56] there, it's an uphill, downhill water mitigation issue. And I don't want to take too much of

[12:03] your time, but I'm there for you citizens. You know it. And we'll we'll get through this,

[12:07] but we have to get through this together. Just keep on pressing to to ask the hard questions.

[12:13] And I will I will bring them to the administration. Thank you. >> Mr. Palmer.

[12:20] >> The. Mace present a la fin de la session. Si vous avez des questions soit pour un bon pour

[12:29] répondre aux questions spécifiquement pour au niveau de la ville au niveau du

[12:33] quartier numero eight. I don't have anything right now, but I will be staying after the

[12:37] session for a good amount of time. Anybody has any questions specific to district eight?

[12:42] I'll be glad to answer them directly. Thank you. >> Mr. Straczynski. I'm going.

[12:53] >> Okay. >> My sympathy, my solidarity avec tous les victimes des et

[13:06] remercier, les premiers et les employés qui sont en et. I also want to take a moment to talk

[13:14] about the most flooded residents of district four were those on in the Greenwich

[13:20] condominium project and on Alston. Now the Greenwich condo project was partly built over a

[13:28] wetland and involved cutting down some 150 trees. At the time that it was built, the

[13:34] main stormwater infrastructure for it was a drainage ditch built along the property lines

[13:39] between Alston and the primary townhouses in my district, and the other ones further up north.

[13:46] And John Drew and Councilor Tremblay's. Now, since that since it was put in place, the

[13:53] residents on both sides have experienced repeated flooding, not just in the major storms of

[13:59] 2024 and 2025, but several times before. I think in the cases of the prima three

[14:07] townhouses, it was nine times in total. Now, two weeks before the storm on June 20th, I was

[14:13] visiting and forwarding complaints from Alston residents that the ditch wasn't

[14:17] draining. Even without rain. It was half full of water with bulrushes growing and drains

[14:22] that appeared to be blocked. Residents who have asked have typically been told by the city

[14:27] that it's private property and nothing can be done, but some have made the argument that the

[14:32] problem is, in fact, with the connecting city storm sewers and question whether private

[14:35] land ends and the city's begins. I made requests for documentation on this, and any

[14:42] assessments done on potential flood risks. When the Greenwich project was approved, I was

[14:46] told to fill out an access to information request when I received the results, I hope to

[14:52] be able to share them and see whether they can contribute to some improvements being made.

[14:59] What does seem clear to me is that the current drainage system has repeatedly failed to

[15:04] protect residents from flooding. My position that I would respectfully submit as

[15:09] councilor for district four is that having. After having approved this kind of

[15:14] development in a wetland, which I think knowing then what we know now, we would have

[15:19] approved, I think, a different development with a different. Kind of drainage system. I was

[15:26] not there at the time, but this is what I think would occur. I believe that council has a

[15:31] moral obligation to make the situation right. I think this should include both improving

[15:37] the city's storm drains and improving the city infrastructure that is

[15:42] currently there, and taking ownership or a servitude of the strip of land where the ditch

[15:47] is located so that we can replace it or do corrective work. Some will say that we

[15:52] should do nothing because it's still private property. But I would point out that this

[15:56] evening we are adopting what I think is a very good flood preparedness subsidy program.

[16:03] However, it's one that benefits only those who have single family homes. If you're

[16:09] multi-family residential, if you're part of a townhouse complex, you wouldn't have

[16:12] access to it. And so with that in mind, I think we need to be generous in considering

[16:19] accommodations that could be made for people who are in these kinds of situations. And

[16:24] finally, you know, I think if it is our intent as a council to approve further developments

[16:30] in this area, it is incumbent on us to improve the stormwater drain systems and the

[16:36] infrastructure that is there to serve the project that is there right now. Thank you.

[16:41] >> Merci. Mr. Tremblay. >> Merci, Monsieur mayor. Good evening. UN peu les memes.

[16:51] Message queue. Les conseillers au sujet des inundations également disponible vous avez

[16:58] des questions comme d'habitude. As usual, I'm available through email, telephone. If there's

[17:04] anything you'd like to discuss with regards to the flooding events or any other issue in

[17:09] the district. Thank you. >> Mr. Ludovic Matthews. >> Yes, I just wanted to give

[17:17] them all my sympathies to all those who were affected by the flooding. And I know it's not

[17:25] easy. It's it's it's a long process. And if you've never experienced before, quite the

[17:30] shock. I just wanted to point out the great work of our council, and especially Eric

[17:39] Stork, who I know was on the ground and dealing with lots of things and as well as the mayor.

[17:46] Sorry if there were others, but those were the two that I, I recognized the were were on

[17:51] site and also Jill and the administration and all the Public works employees. Thank

[17:57] you for being there for them. And I'm sorry I wasn't as present as I should have been.

[18:04] Anyway, have a good night. Thank you. >> Madam Mayor.

[18:08] >> Merci, monsieur. UN grand solidarité avec toutes les autres districts et sa veut pas

[18:18] dire dans. Pour moi. J'ai déja été un grand solidarité avec vous tous merci bonne soirée.

[18:26] >> And my last comment I forgot to mention is that I'm very proud. And for the city, we

[18:31] just signed our union contract with the for the blue collars. And it's it's good for us. It's

[18:38] good for them. And again, like it's been mentioned many times around this table tonight, they

[18:43] stepped up. They've been there for us not only during the flooding, but during all the

[18:47] other days that we deserve as they offer to us in the winter and summer. So I'm glad to that

[18:54] that's resolved. Anything to say? Mr. Gerard. >> On that note, specifically

[19:00] or on. >> That note specifically. >> It's a it's a good

[19:04] essentially agreement that the city has with the the blue collars, if that's what you're

[19:08] referring to. Absolutely. Yeah. And I know, I just wanted to mention that there's Missus

[19:18] Colon too. I don't know if she wanted to mention a word of entry as well.

[19:23] >> I'll go to I'll go to missus. She's on the on screen tonight because she's ill and has a

[19:28] fever, so she cannot be present with us. So she's going to be doing it from Zoom. Anything

[19:33] you'd like to say, missus Colon? >> Merci beaucoup. La mer a just a sentiment de la mer et.

[19:43] Conseillere de la inundacion. Mais IL y a un not positive. Juste un petit palais de Valois

[19:52] lieu la semaine prochaine. Le soir la a a. On a positive note, we do have our community events

[19:59] still going on. And just a reminder that the fair is next week, Thursday, July 16th in

[20:05] the evening. >> Thank you very much. Okay. Mr. Alexander.

[20:22] >> Nous devrions dans le numéro le 6666666. At 17.4. We should read. The projected lot 6695286

[20:44] and 6695287. >> Perfect. Can we have a 11.1? Adoption of.

[20:57] >> Ludovic Matthews district two. >> District.

[21:02] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> Madame Wendy. Mosley, president de Pointe Claire et

[21:12] de la médaille de la gouvernance pour les années six. >> Okay, so on that note, we're

[21:19] going to be honoring a woman this evening, Mrs. Wendy Mosley, who is who? I got the

[21:24] Lieutenant Governor's award. So say avec beaucoup de nous aujourd'hui and naissance de la

[21:32] rue de la médaille de lieutenant governor pour les années de Madame Wendy

[21:39] Huntzinger. Since arriving in Pointe Claire in 1984, Mrs. Huntzinger has devoted a

[21:43] significant part of her life to volunteering and to the well-being of families in our

[21:47] community. For more than four decades, she has been involved with many causes, including

[21:52] guides, scouts, the missing children's network, fundraisers for women's shelters, Quebec

[21:56] Special Olympics as well as child safety and prevention initiatives. Des jeunes de la

[22:05] famille, des plusieurs organismes de la was Madame Hunzinger a contribution to the

[22:11] community solidaire? Plus en plus humain C. Ski resort de son pour se non seulement en

[22:19] plus de son implication, mais aussi son constant sa generosity et sa volonté de les

[22:26] autres une année. Mrs. Moseley, your commitment to is a source of inspiration for your family,

[22:33] your neighbors and our entire city. You remind us that volunteer volunteerism, even

[22:39] when carried out quietly and humbly, can have a deep, lasting impact. I would also

[22:44] like to thank the Pointe Claire Senior Center for submitting her nomination. Thanks to this

[22:49] initiative, we are able today to recognize both this commitment and exceptional

[22:53] person who is part of our community. Claire is a. Municipal officer. Plusieurs

[23:04] sincere felicitations. Merci pour votre generosity et votre contribution exceptional and

[23:09] Notre community. I invite you now to come in the front, and we'll take a picture and show

[23:14] you. Show off your great medallion. >> So humble that she didn't

[23:35] even go get it. It was because she wasn't well, she didn't tell anybody about it. We had

[23:41] to leave right behind. >> You guys be quiet about it. >> I've already had my say.

[24:13] >> Okay. >> So 33.1 to approve the minutes of the regular meeting

[24:17] held on June 2nd, 2026. >> Have a mover and secondary, please.

[24:21] >> David Matthews, district des district. >> All in favor? Thank you.

[24:34] >> There is no follow up question at this point, sir, from the previous council

[24:38] meeting. >> Okay. So just a for people who just come for the first

[24:42] time every month, when somebody asks a question, we don't have the answer or and if we don't

[24:46] meet with you during the month after the question was asked, we give you the answer the

[24:51] following month so you can follow up. You can find it online, at least it educates

[24:55] everybody who was present. And maybe people learn things and find out different things that

[24:58] happen in the city. So thank you, Mr. Jawad. >> En francais. En anglais.

[25:10] Finalement l'ordre de votre inscription. Parfaitement suivie. Nous allons commencer

[25:17] par les citoyens qui sont ici pour des questions plus générale et par la suite. Nous

[25:23] avec les personnes qui sont inscrits pour tout ce qui les épisodes de plus de la semaine

[25:30] passée. N'est pas destinée a des conseils ou a doit personnel des. Insinuations

[25:41] veulent respectueuse ou des trois denigrate ou intimidate. Pour les affaires de la ville,

[25:54] Le droit. Citoyen et de la ville de la. Par la suite n'est pas la période. Des questions

[26:04] est une durée de la majorité. Des membres du Conseil présent peuvent soit prolonger le nom

[26:11] de question et avec ou sans preamble, au des trois questions au président de la

[26:21] science. Donc Monsieur le Maire, qui peut aussi des verifications supplémentaires

[26:26] sont nécessaires pour répondre lors de la prochaine séance ou par la parole peut également un

[26:32] membre du Conseil au directeur général de la ville, afin de répondre ou de la réponse a la

[26:37] demande de président. Des questions doivent porter sur des affaires NE peuvent pas

[26:45] devant les tribunaux ou un quasi judicial ou une affaire qui fait l'objet d'une enquete

[26:49] dans la réponse a la ville et le président de la science et le droit de parole, qui NE pas

[26:57] les dispositions de reglement de la région de la science du Conseil.

[27:02] >> So exceptionally tonight, we will not follow the order that you signed up for, and we will

[27:08] hear general questions and then all questions relating to flooding following that, the

[27:13] question period is not intended for the sharing of opinion, advice or engaging in debate.

[27:16] All participants must refrain from making personal remarks, insinuations or using violent,

[27:21] offensive, threatening or disrespectful language, as well as employing words deemed

[27:26] vexatious, disparaging or intimidating. Only questions of public interest are permitted.

[27:30] All questions of private interest unrelated to city business are not permitted.

[27:34] Priority to speak is given to citizens and taxpayers of the city of Pointe-Claire.

[27:37] Nonresidents may ask their questions afterward. Time permitting. The question period

[27:41] has a maximum duration of 90 minutes. However, a majority of council members present may

[27:45] agree to extend the question period. Each person is limited to two questions with or

[27:50] without a preliminary statement, and must not exceed a total allotted time of three minutes

[27:54] per question. Questions are addressed to the chairperson, who may respond immediately or,

[27:58] if further verification is required, provide a response at the next meeting or in writing.

[28:02] The floor may also be seated to another council member or to the City Manager to provide or

[28:07] complete the response at the president's request. If the question concerns a matter

[28:11] pending before the courts or a judicial body or a matter under investigation, were responding

[28:17] could be prejudicial to the city or an individual, or could disclose part of the evidence

[28:21] or arguments. The question may not be answered. And lastly, the chairperson may limit or

[28:26] withdraw speaking rights from any member of the public who does not comply with the

[28:29] internal governance rules surrounding council meetings. >> Thank you.

[28:36] >> So I'm going to start with Susan Weaver. >> District eight. I'd like

[28:58] more information for item 16.2, which has to do with Sandy vac. Approve a change order to the

[29:06] contract entered into with Sandy vac for televised inspection works of stormwater

[29:12] and sanitary networks on various streets for 2026. What streets will be prioritized and

[29:20] where? Telephone televised inspections done before? And I'll wait for the answer when

[29:25] you come to the item. And my second question is, does the city regularly monitor the

[29:33] cleanout of storm water and sanitary drains, and will these televised inspections aid them

[29:39] to do so? >> So yes, we do a regular clean out of the drains, and we

[29:47] do film them. And it's a process. We can't do them all in the same year. We we go

[29:54] through them regularly. It takes to do. The whole city would take approximately three

[29:59] years. We just bought some new equipment or ordering new equipment that will help us do

[30:03] it more often, right? >> That's correct. We're purchasing new equipment.

[30:07] >> So we're purchasing our own truck now, so we won't rely on other companies outside of

[30:11] Sandy and so on, so forth. So we'll be able to do it on a more regular basis. And storm

[30:17] sewers, believe it or not, from what I heard, there are places, yes, they get blocked or they

[30:22] get dirty, but a lot of times they self-clean because the flow of the water goes through

[30:26] them. So it's not every mile in every corner that has to be done all the time. But what

[30:31] we're doing, and we'll hear from you people tonight, and the survey that we've asked for

[30:36] is to identify areas that have become problems, that we can start knowing where to

[30:42] intervene sooner. >> Okay. So you'll be in more control if we have our own

[30:46] equipment. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

[30:49] >> Well, it could be, but we're looking at other options. >> Jennifer. But.

[31:04] >> Hi there. Hello. Quick questions about the terra cotta sponge park that's being built.

[31:13] Number one, we have the water, the big water retention thing. It's been filled in about two

[31:21] feet or a foot and a half now with rocks. The day of the 20th, it filled in about 2.5 hours. I

[31:29] videotaped it so and it was about five feet deep at the time. I'm wondering if, because

[31:35] I did ask the construction workers and they weren't sure, is there going to be a fence

[31:39] around that? According to the Quebec bylaw, if there's things that have a the sides are more

[31:45] than 65 degrees. There should be some kind of a retention fence. It's right next to a

[31:52] baby park and less than, what, half a mile away from a monument, like a monument to a

[31:59] kid that drowned because of flooding from the creek. So I'm wondering if there's going to

[32:04] be a fence put up. >> I'll look into that one. I'll have to get back to you.

[32:11] >> Okay? Okay. Second of all, the there is water that is staying in the bottom of the

[32:17] ponds. As a result, the mosquitoes have multiplied by about 10,000. So I'm wondering,

[32:25] wondering if there is anything that is going to be done, because that was a concern that

[32:29] I did bring up before, that the water wouldn't all drain. And so far I've been watching. I've

[32:34] taken pictures. At one point it was full of green water. They've regulated that with

[32:40] some rocks, but they're still standing water all over. >> That's a that's a new one

[32:44] we're digging right now at Belmont right there. Yeah. >> On sandalwood.

[32:47] >> Yeah. Okay. So I mean, it's not even finished yet. They're working on it.

[32:51] >> Well, the two parts that are finished. >> Yeah.

[32:53] >> There's water water that's staying there. >> But it's going to be a, I

[32:57] guess like an overall big project. Maybe that water won't all be there because, because

[33:01] it will be absorbed by the other part that's not finished yet. I don't, I don't know, but

[33:05] we'll we'll pay attention to it. I mean, a great concern, but just let's, let's let them

[33:10] finish a project first. >> Yeah, I'm just asking because we're living with the

[33:13] mosquitoes now. Okay. >> Good question. Let's see how the water drains. That's all

[33:17] done. >> Last thing I just wanted to thank you guys for the work

[33:20] that was done. They finished on the Friday night, the night, the 19th, the berms in the back

[33:25] of my my where I live. And as a result, the water came within maybe four, three inches of the

[33:31] top of those berms. And all the people on sandalwood that the sandalwood that goes, none of

[33:38] them flooded this time. So I wanted to thank you for that. Also. That's something that can

[33:46] be very easily done. Maybe we can look at those kinds of things elsewhere in

[33:51] Pointe-Claire, as well as using something different other than mulch in the baby park that is

[33:58] on that street, because the the flooding that resulted there mostly was because of yes,

[34:05] there was a lot of rain, but all those drains were filled with debris from the park that

[34:11] came out of terracotta, wiped all the mulch out of the park into the street, blocked the

[34:17] sewers on one side, and there were a bunch of gravel. Based on the work that's being done

[34:23] that blocked the sewers on the other side. >> So great observation. We saw

[34:28] the same thing you saw, and all this information is great. The from that building, that berm

[34:33] on terracotta and seeing the results of it already, we've looked at putting them

[34:37] elsewhere already in your area to help because it did save a lot of houses. So yes.

[34:42] >> Very doable and doesn't cost 2 million. >> And we're using the dirt

[34:45] that we're digging out of the park. So yes, so it was a it was financially a good thing.

[34:50] But thank you. >> Thank you. >> Gary Carr.

[35:07] >> Good evening. My question is on 329 the corner with the trees. I know they went past

[35:14] their timeline of June. Does anybody know if they've got an extension and to how far along

[35:21] it goes. >> Well we're working with them on a bunch of stuff. Mr. Jawad.

[35:26] >> Yeah, that's correct. Public works went to communicate with them. We gave them an extension

[35:31] till July, end of July to plant those five trees. And they want to do supplemental planting

[35:39] there, I mean, sorry for the and landscaping. Sorry. And we're analyzing that with them

[35:47] because that whole territory belongs to, to them. So it's in the works in terms of moving

[35:52] that forward. >> Thank you very much. Thank you.

[35:58] >> Sandra Mackey. >> Good evening. District two. My question is around the land

[36:13] that was sold to the to the rim near Fairview Forest. When a property is subdivided, my

[36:21] understanding is that the the person buying the land has to either give 10% of the 10% of

[36:29] the land that they buy to the city, or 10% of the land value to the city. And I don't know,

[36:35] because this was an expropriation, I guess. Well, all I can tell you is applied,

[36:40] and maybe. >> Mr. Gerard knows more than I do, except that when that line

[36:44] was expropriated by the rim, the government had passed a special law giving them the

[36:48] power to take whatever land they needed, and we didn't even get a chance to negotiate the

[36:52] price. We just mail the check in the mail. So I doubt that they gave us 10% of the green

[36:57] park or whatever. We got nothing, and we're probably haven't even got paid for the

[37:01] land yet. But they they had extreme powers. >> So okay.

[37:04] >> Okay, we can verify, but I'm pretty sure that's the right. >> Answer if you could verify.

[37:08] But thank you. I was just wondering. Thank you so much. Good night.

[37:12] >> Thank you. >> So my. >> Question.

[37:14] >> Oh thank you. >> Victoria Golden. >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor. And

[37:34] members of Council. This winter, the residents of Greenwich Village presented a petition

[37:43] with you concerning the lack of winter overnight street parking in our highly densified area.

[37:52] And my question is, what is the city developing as a solution for the residents of our area?

[38:02] >> So it's been an item that's been on the traffic committee for the last two meetings. I

[38:06] believe we discussed it. We were looking at all kinds of we've done all types of

[38:10] analysis in the area. We're looking at the possibility of a of coming up with a special app

[38:16] to have adaptive parking on street overnight during the winter. I don't want to go into

[38:21] too much detail because it has to come through here first and everybody has to know. So we're

[38:26] looking at it very seriously. Mr. Cieszynski has brought it up quite a few times and has

[38:30] become a priority on our on our traffic committee, and we're looking at every possible thing

[38:34] to try to find a solution. So you'll be you'll hear something in the next month or so.

[38:39] >> Very good. So we, we, we will have a solution for this coming winter.

[38:43] >> We'll have an answer will be a solution. But you know. >> We need a solution because.

[38:47] >> It really affects us daily. It's, it's a quality of life issue.

[38:50] >> We understand. So we're we're looking. >> At it.

[38:53] >> Excellent. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Jennifer Olmstead.

[39:05] >> Sorry guys. This room is full here. So we have to put chairs downstairs. So you might

[39:10] have to bring them up here. They'll have to I think they have a mic downstairs. Right.

[39:14] They have a mic downstairs. So. >> You know. >> She's coming.

[39:23] >> Oh thank you. >> I like the elevators working. >> Hello. Good evening folks.

[39:41] Good evening. It's actually it's it's rather premature. It's rather premature to be up

[39:47] here because I was here to be available to ask questions following our evaluation. So I

[39:55] don't know. Do I wait for later to start asking these questions. >> Right now.

[39:59] >> You can ask it now. >> Go ahead. I have I have no questions at this point because

[40:03] I don't know what your outcome is, what your evaluation is going to be or your.

[40:07] >> Approval because you have you get to ask a question before we vote on it. Anyway,

[40:12] you get on the item right now, is it on there. >> Just for minor variation.

[40:16] And her question pertained to Pape. >> It's it's straight up. So I,

[40:21] I really don't know what question I can ask. Now this is the problem. Is there anything

[40:27] that. >> What would you what was your your question? What were you

[40:30] intending to ask? What was the question you wanted to ask? >> The question would be just

[40:34] about the approval. That was all. >> And you.

[40:37] >> Have the conditions of approval. >> Are. Exactly refused yet, so

[40:40] you can't ask a question. >> Exactly. >> There you go.

[40:42] >> So now. >> Return to your seat. >> Enjoy the popcorn. Can I ask

[40:46] later? >> No, there'll be no question. You'll just hear the answer.

[40:51] >> Okay. I'm sorry. I'm new at space, so. >> Yeah. Well, you know.

[40:58] >> I right now I have no concerns. >> You want to know the answer?

[41:01] >> I want to know the outcome. But I also want to understand. >> But all I can say to you,

[41:07] miss, is the the space is for an extension and renovation. >> Yes it is.

[41:15] >> Okay. Are you the owner? >> I am the you already know the.

[41:18] >> I know, yeah. >> You just want the answer. >> I just would like the answer

[41:23] and and to understand. >> You have to wait until the Council vote.

[41:26] >> We have to vote on it. We haven't voted on it yet. >> But just. Thank you. Thank

[41:31] you. Okay. >> Excuse excuse me, Mr. Mayor, but just to clarify, aren't

[41:34] isn't that one of the items like at article 17, where residents can speak.

[41:38] >> Minor variation? Mr. Socinski, it's not a minor variation.

[41:41] >> It's okay. Next. >> Thank you, Amanda. Francis. >> Good evening. Good evening.

[41:56] My question today is related to the property at 106 Lakeshore, but can be extended to all

[42:02] houses that fall under the inventory of heritage homes in Pointe Claire. My question is

[42:08] whether or not the City of Montreal is involved in the approval process for the

[42:14] demolition plans, or the replacement plans. >> Only if it was built before

[42:19] 1940. Right. >> So in this case, the house in question was built in the

[42:24] year 1900. So it is included in your inventory of houses. So the city of Montreal would be

[42:29] involved. >> Montreal Montreal is not involved.

[42:32] >> Quebec, Quebec. Quebec is. >> Involved but not Montreal. >> So it's the province of

[42:37] Quebec. >> Yeah, but Minister Quebec but not Montreal city.

[42:40] >> Okay. In that case, when does that approval process happen? In regards or in order

[42:45] of Pointe Claire's approval. >> Process, they have 90 days. >> After Pointe Claire is

[42:50] approved. >> Yes, exactly. >> Okay. So it's the demolition

[42:53] and the. >> And then we send the the decision to Minister for

[42:57] culture. And they have 90 days to come back. >> And that's for the

[43:01] replacement plan as well. Or just the demolition. Both for both.

[43:05] >> The demolition. Yeah. But for us, it's probably both. But for the demolition.

[43:10] >> Okay. Understood. And just to clarify, the replacement plan has not yet been approved.

[43:14] Seen as the exemptions are up for discussion today. >> It hasn't been approved or

[43:20] refused. It's up for discussion. >> Okay. >> Perfect. Right.

[43:23] >> Not yet. Yes. >> All right. Thank you. >> Olivier.

[43:40] >> Okay. >> Good evening everyone. My question is concerning the

[44:07] underground garbage bins that are on Dufresne and on Mason. If there are any plans to

[44:11] improve the situation or to replace the situation, because I live directly in front of it.

[44:19] And it's been like, not to be melodramatic, but living like in City Dump, it's really,

[44:24] really bad. And I was wondering if, if you guys are aware of how bad the situation is as far

[44:29] as overflow and, you know, abuse of it, and you know, how people are treating it and just

[44:36] generally what your situation is. >> All I can tell you is I know

[44:41] that about 4 or 5 years ago, we had situations there and we, we, I thought we had corrected them.

[44:46] And I was there the other day for an event, and I was actually quite impressed how

[44:50] clean it was. Maybe I was just lucky it was that day. But if you're telling us there's a

[44:55] problem, we're going to send people buying on a regular basis and we'll let us analyze

[44:59] and we'll we'll see what we can do. >> Okay? Because I'm always on

[45:02] the phone with public works. And the situation is, is absolutely terrible.

[45:05] >> People are putting stuff beside the bin. They're putting it around the bin or they're

[45:09] constant. >> I'm constantly picking up people's garbage. I'm

[45:12] constantly because I'm literally the house right in front. I'm constantly

[45:14] destroying boxes, picking up people's garbage on the phone. With public works, there are

[45:18] it's just it's it's wretched. >> It's completely wretched. Can we get your information?

[45:23] Yes. Take his name. We'll get back to you. Because we did have a solution a few years

[45:26] back. We'll take a look at it again. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't know that. This is the

[45:31] first I've heard of it recently, so we'll. I'll talk to Mr. Gerardo, see what we can do.

[45:35] >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good night.

[45:38] >> Debbie. >> Good evening. >> Good evening.

[45:49] >> Are we going to learn and to listen for the last 12 years, when we're building all the

[45:54] high rise buildings on Greenland and wetland, and now we're paying the price as a

[46:01] citizen resident of Pointe-Claire for all the flood, for any rain it's going to be,

[46:06] that is the normal. It's not the extra. So are you going to stop building all this high

[46:11] rise building and hotel or whatever until to fix the sewer system, the drainage system,

[46:21] the road when it's all cracked and hold. So when you go into to listen to us as, as a

[46:32] citizen resident for 40, 50 years here, we're paying the price because you're paying 50%

[46:37] from the from the damage. That's not enough. So please, when are you going to stop

[46:43] building all that and to care about the infrastructure for the city. I asked this question

[46:49] since four years and never happened. When exactly? Please. >> I'm going to answer you

[46:54] because I've heard the same question many times, sir. And when you talk about that, we've

[47:01] dug up green space to build on. I'd like you to identify what green space we've actually dug

[47:06] up to build on, because what you're referring to is the buildings on Boulevard, right?

[47:11] >> Yes. >> All so. >> Boulevard and the wetland

[47:14] also. >> But let me just finish the boulevard, which was zoned

[47:18] industrial before that part of Hymans Boulevard going back to 2008, 2011, when they came up

[47:24] with a new urban plan and they had to the municipalities had to identify areas for high

[47:28] density residential. They identified that area. They got rid of the one story industrial

[47:34] buildings with large asphalt parking lots. And they put. Over the years, once the REM

[47:40] got announced condo project, which had already been zoned for those condo projects or

[47:44] apartment buildings or high rise, whatever you want to call them, had to meet the new norms

[47:48] of water migration in 2018 2020. So the old industrial buildings with the flat roofs and the big

[47:56] parking lots, all the water went into sewer system. Now, when those buildings were built,

[48:01] all the water off of a flat roof, which are big, flat roofs, have to go into a pipe, into

[48:06] the retention tank does not go into our sewer system right away. All that parking lot that

[48:11] was asphalt is now 65% green space, which is grass. And there's trees and there's

[48:17] gardens. So there's if you honestly look at Google Maps and you look at before and

[48:23] after, there has been a huge improvement of green space on Hymas Boulevard, and the water

[48:29] retention is a thousand times better than what it was. So it's not the new buildings are

[48:33] the problem. It's the old buildings that are the problem. It's the large parking lots.

[48:37] It's the large those, those. We have to try to find solutions for now. And we're going to be

[48:42] looking at that. So yeah, that's the answer. So we're doing what we can do. But we

[48:50] have to we have to be honest with each other. And those actually added to helping.

[48:54] >> Yeah. But the waste water for 5000 apartments, where it goes, it goes to the drain.

[49:00] That's why we all, we have our backup. But but also with a soccer field there and with too

[49:06] many green spots there, and they built on it. I lived there since 33 years. I know

[49:11] everything in the Pointe-Claire. I'm asking just we have to pay attention and we have to learn

[49:15] from our mistakes and we do better decision to stop until they fix the infrastructure.

[49:21] That's all what I'm asking. I'm not arguing with you. I'm not. >> I'm just I.

[49:25] >> Comment we're all paying the price for that. >> Perfect. So we are

[49:28] absolutely. Since the month of November, since this council got elected. And everybody here

[49:32] will tell you we have made water migration a priority, flooding a priority. We are

[49:36] working on it. We have we and I have to tell you, I'm so proud of our services, the work that

[49:41] they have done to analyze the piping system, to try to find solutions and try to identify

[49:46] areas. So we had five areas up until June 20th, the last rainfall that we just had, we

[49:51] had five areas that were priorities. And now that's changed because all new stuff

[49:56] came out of this last storm. So we're learning too, but we're adapting and we're working hard

[50:00] at it. Okay. And we're putting the money where it has to go. We're not. If you look at our

[50:05] PTI and we've, we've cut a lot of other projects all going into infrastructure and water

[50:09] retention. Now that's where our money is going to. And tonight we're adopting a plan to help

[50:13] citizens financially that comes out of all that money too. So we are doing everything we can.

[50:18] We had 152mm of rain. It's not an excuse. It's a lot of rain. We learned a lot. The lady was

[50:25] talking about bark chips and this and that blocking sewer that we just learned that we

[50:29] learned everybody who gives us information about something, we're learning, and we're

[50:32] trying to analyze and see what we can do better. So we are taking it very, very serious.

[50:36] And I'm very confident to say that. >> Good. Thank you. I

[50:40] understand it's good, but we have I'm just mentioning to just highlight and we have to

[50:45] work harder. My second question, please, is the renovation for Aqua the poor Aqua Park. Yeah.

[50:56] The the gym, what they call the wet room is so old and like, you know, no ventilation in it.

[51:04] And people, they work there. They spend every, every shift, five hours as when we spend 8

[51:10] or 6 or six hours a week there and it's no room to walk around it, are they are serious plans

[51:17] to renovate the wet room? >> I don't know, I don't I don't know the plans. I don't.

[51:22] >> Remember because I ask everybody there. They don't know.

[51:24] >> Oh, I don't know. I know it's a big project. It's a two year project. It's a is that

[51:29] weight room? Part of. >> The weight room is not part of the renovation project? No.

[51:33] >> Okay. But I don't want it. But if you. >> Find it is serious, really?

[51:37] >> Okay, we'll take a we'll take the note of it. But the other option you have is you go

[51:42] to our new building on on Brunswick, which is like, you got everything.

[51:45] >> I went there and it's so busy there because that is close to us really. I live in

[51:50] Maywood and that is, you know, next door to me. And also there's a lot of people there,

[51:55] the senior, you know, and people also work there. We have to take care of them. Okay.

[51:59] >> We'll take I mean. >> The ventilation, it's no ventilation at all. You know,

[52:03] imagine when 20 people there and all sweating how we smell that room.

[52:07] >> May or may I comment? >> Go ahead. >> Mr. Mr. Al-dabi. Yes. We've

[52:11] known each other a long time. It's been four years. We've been bringing up this question,

[52:15] and I will respond again. You've been answered numerous times and I respect you greatly.

[52:22] But to blame them on development, whether you have a park, an industrial building or

[52:28] a high rise building, doesn't stop the rain that falls from the sky. Okay, first. Secondly,

[52:36] we have a two tier rain system and I've explained this to you numerous times. The water, the

[52:41] pee, the poop. We've never had issues with our waste management system. Our problem

[52:46] is simple when the rain falls from the sky, it goes into our pluvial system and that's what

[52:51] gets overwhelmed. That is 90% of the cases of homes in Pointe-Claire. Yes, there are

[52:57] 10% water flows into the waste management system, and if you don't have a proper backflow

[53:02] valve, you could have issues. And just to repeat the mayor's point, every time we build,

[53:09] every time, whether it be we tear down industrial building for residential, commercial or

[53:15] industrial, we are becoming more resilient. Those parking lots, which were 70, 80% cement,

[53:25] that rainwater fell directly into the pluvial system. Adding to our problem, any new project

[53:33] must adhere to the new bylaws, which Pointe-Claire, by the way, has one of the strictest

[53:38] standard in Montreal, if I'm not mistaken. They have to create water retention basins

[53:43] to limit a 30 millimeter runoff. We're at ten millimeters every time we build, whether if you

[53:49] don't condos, you don't like them industrial, commercial. Every time we build a new

[53:54] development, we are becoming more resilient. I hope I answer this question and.

[54:00] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Sewer System. Since 50 and 60, we didn't update it

[54:08] when Pointe-Claire was a small town. Now it's a big city with all this horizon, over 5000

[54:15] units built just for the last ten years. Where is this wastewater goes? Thank you for

[54:21] your answer, and I hope really we face it seriously so we don't have everybody to come

[54:26] for every rain. We have a flood. Thank you. >> Kevin Zhao.

[54:45] >> Are we into all the water issues now? >> No, it's because it didn't

[54:49] say water. >> Okay, good. Okay. No, I just want to know when we get there.

[54:53] Let me know when we get to that point. Okay? Yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. Good evening everyone.

[54:58] First, I just simply introduce myself. My name is Kevin Zhao and I'm a convenience store

[55:05] owner. And my store located at 477 Amderma. And my concern is related with the agenda for

[55:15] today, 17 point I think three. Sorry, 17.4 to 17.1 okay. And I, I appeared here for the

[55:36] previous council meeting for last year because I believe this property was important to

[55:43] our neighborhood. Okay. And I'm here again today because my mind is not changed. Okay. And

[55:55] I respectfully ask the council will think seriously. Consider a mixed use redevelopment with

[56:04] commercial space on the ground floor and residential units above. Okay. And this

[56:12] convenience store and daycare on this site has served local residents for many years. As a

[56:19] neighbor neighborhood grows, the service become more valuable, so not less so. This

[56:24] is my point. And also, Mr. Mayor, if you remember last year, we do have a brief

[56:37] conversation at that part and. We barely discussed this possibility of the commercial

[56:45] space at street level with residential above. And I appreciate I appreciate for you

[56:51] positive attitude with this, and I hope the Council will continue to give this serious

[56:58] consideration. Okay. I also brought the copy for the last years, the presentation and the

[57:05] residential residents partition. I'm not asking anyone to revisit the past. I'm just

[57:13] simply hope the voice of the local residents continue to be considered. Okay. So here I

[57:21] also just have my two questions. Okay. First, has the city firmly evaluated a mixed use

[57:29] opinion for this property instead of only for residential redevelopment? Redevelopment?

[57:36] Okay, this is my first question. >> I would have to say that when the the the owner of the

[57:43] property presented a project to the city and the project is presented now as a townhouses.

[57:49] And that was his choice. And the zoning, you know, the, the, the mixed use was another

[57:55] option. It was was not presented and the townhouses were presented. And that's what

[57:59] the city has dealt with. >> Yeah, I understand because as the as the developer, they

[58:07] can decide what they want to rebuild there. But also I consider the city can think

[58:13] about the voice from all the neighbors living around there and to see the, the important

[58:19] thing that all the convenient service can keep stay in that local area. So this is my point.

[58:30] >> Okay, >> Okay, so. >> 19 seconds. Go ahead.

[58:38] >> Yeah. My second question is the same. So I respectfully ask the council to consider a

[58:44] solution that supports both the housing and the the daily needs of this community. This is like

[58:52] my wish. >> Thank you all. You'll see tonight there's a project on

[58:56] the table that we're going to discuss, which are townhouses. So that's what we'll be

[59:00] considering as that project is on the table tonight. >> Okay. So it's been the

[59:04] decision has been made or. >> Has not been made. I see voted on, but the project has

[59:09] been deposited. Will vote on it tonight. >> Okay. All right. Thank you.

[59:13] >> Ken Lyons. >> Mr. mayor, if I may, may I go ahead? I just got a to

[59:22] answer Mrs. Was question from the beginning. I don't know if she's still here. I think

[59:27] Jennifer back >> Downstairs. Well, if she can hear me, essentially there will

[59:32] be a fence around the. She's not there anymore. She's downstairs. Okay. So there will

[59:39] be a fence surrounding the retention basin on terracotta. Thank you. You're welcome.

[59:46] >> Okay. Next. >> So, Ken Lyons. Oh. He's coming. No, no, he's not coming.

[59:51] >> No. >> No no. Ken Lyon. >> Okay. No! Ken Lyon, no.

[59:55] >> Ken Lyons. So Drew Matthews. >> Thank you. >> Oh, sorry. Hans volstad. Oh,

[1:00:10] you're Mr. Matthews. Yes. Okay, just go ahead. That's fine. >> Thank you. Good evening, Mr.

[1:00:17] Mayor and council members. I'm here referring to 17.15. A permit for 106 Bord du Lac. Our

[1:00:28] property touches on this property. So our concern is, will the council or the

[1:00:36] planning department try to maintain the character of the properties along the lakeshore?

[1:00:43] Because I'm looking at the the the the variances, the, the they're asking for, to me, it

[1:00:51] sounds like there's a lot of, a lot of changes they want to make. And the last one of all,

[1:00:58] a ten meter wide driveway really strikes me as really excessive. I just want to know

[1:01:05] if the Council planning Department will try to maintain the character of properties

[1:01:09] along the lakeshore. >> All I can tell you is that the project has brought been

[1:01:14] brought to us to look at it, to look at tonight, to present to you tonight and decide if we'll

[1:01:19] go with or not. But they're planning in the Park Committee and the Council have looked at

[1:01:24] the project and all the different elements of it, and we'll be making a decision on

[1:01:29] it tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good night. >> Okay. So if if I look over

[1:01:41] all the papers, all the questions not we may see. So now we would start, I'm

[1:01:51] assuming, naming names that are. >> You want to say something? Thank you for being patient.

[1:01:56] What we did tonight was we let everybody else that didn't have a flooding issue get their

[1:02:00] question asked so they could leave. And normally we only hold our question period for 90

[1:02:04] minutes. We want to give you all a chance to be heard. And we want to be you know, we

[1:02:09] don't want to limit to only three things on the same topic and so on and so forth. So I

[1:02:14] just want to make a couple of statements, and maybe we'll help answer some of your

[1:02:18] questions while you're here. I mean, I can honestly tell you that every one of us are here,

[1:02:22] are here, and we understand your concerns and we have all the answers. No, we don't, but

[1:02:27] I can tell you that we are working really, really hard. And not only us, we're hiring

[1:02:31] experts, our teams, we're working with Montreal, we're working with other

[1:02:34] municipalities to see what we can do. It's a new reality, and yes, we can. You can blame the

[1:02:40] city. Their sewers didn't work, and so on and so forth. But the way I look at it is that we

[1:02:45] have to work on this all together. One of the tools that we'll be giving you tonight is

[1:02:50] will be adopting a financial aid program, which will help you make your house more water

[1:02:56] resilient. If it's a sump pump, if it's a backflow valve, it's, you know, some people can't

[1:03:01] afford the 1200 bucks for backflow valve. So this will give you up to $5,000 to help

[1:03:06] you make your house more resilient. And together, we'll do what we can do on our side.

[1:03:11] You guys have to do what you can do on your side and you know it won't. It won't happen

[1:03:16] overnight. And we'll have another rainstorm before everybody makes their house

[1:03:19] better. But we're there. We're here to try to help you and work together to face the new

[1:03:25] realities. And they are there. And they're not just baby reality. These are huge

[1:03:29] problems that just happen. The other night when we had 152mm of rain. No, we we, we were

[1:03:34] following. We have a direct link with the weather station. They're calling us, giving us

[1:03:39] warnings, and they're saying 6 to 9mm, 6 to 9mm, 6 to 9mm. One cloud formed over the highway.

[1:03:44] And we end up with 110, 152 to 172mm of rain. The good thing is that we had started on the

[1:03:51] Thursday before. Believe it or not, we have protocols to do certain procedures around the

[1:03:55] city to get ready because we're expecting 25 to 30 or 40mm of rain Thursday, Friday. And we

[1:04:01] had already started that those procedures. So I mean, yeah, we got hit. We got hit just as

[1:04:06] hard as you guys with city buildings flooded everywhere else. But we were doing

[1:04:10] everything we could. And is there more we can do? Yes. Is there more that each homeowner

[1:04:14] can do? Yes. Can we help you? And and we'll be hiring a company that you'll be able to

[1:04:19] use to help you evaluate your house, to tell you what you need to do to make your house

[1:04:23] more resilient. And that's the only way we're going to get through it. And we have made it

[1:04:28] a priority in our budgets. And we've sat down. We've had six meetings over for our budget

[1:04:32] for this year and next year, moving forward for next 2 or 3 years, all our investments are

[1:04:37] going to go into water migration and and infrastructure. And, you know,

[1:04:40] it's easy to say change all the pipes and increase the size of the pipes. That's not the only

[1:04:44] problem. And that's not the only solution. There's others, you know, we're building a

[1:04:48] sponge park at, at on Belmont near Chaddlewood. That's going to alleviate a lot of the water

[1:04:52] coming out of terracotta that was flooding all that area. We built that berm that was part

[1:04:56] of our our new program this year to build up berm along terracotta. You heard the lady

[1:05:01] say probably 30, 40 homes that burned and they finish on Friday. It saved them. So we

[1:05:06] are doing what we can do, and we are going to keep doing what we can do. And we're we learn

[1:05:11] new information. We're going to hear new stuff tonight, which will help us evaluate and see

[1:05:15] what we can do. Sometimes it's an easy fix, sometimes it's much more complex. And the ones

[1:05:20] that are complex, just, for instance, just changing the size of a pipe that we know

[1:05:24] we'd like to change in one area. If we increase the size of the pipe, it will alleviate

[1:05:28] pressure over there and won't cause any problem. It's almost a two year process to get the

[1:05:32] permit from the city of Montreal, to just change the size of the pipe, because they

[1:05:36] have to do their studies, they have to make sure that we're not going to affect another. So

[1:05:41] it's a joint venture, but all I can tell you is you can be confident that this council is.

[1:05:46] We're doing everything we can and and we'll keep you up to date. We've held three meetings.

[1:05:50] We're giving information sessions that we've been trying to be as transparent and honest

[1:05:53] and let's, you know, work together to alleviate all the issues that we're having. So on

[1:05:57] that note, the microphone will be open and we'll take your questions, we'll hear your

[1:06:01] concerns, and we'll hopefully we we can find some things out and learn some things. And we

[1:06:05] can you can help us and we can help you. Thank you. >> Oh.

[1:06:11] >> No, no, no, you have your name on the list. Okay. When your name is called, you'll

[1:06:16] come up. Thank you. No, no, I'm I'm open to the list. Sorry, I'm opening the mic to the list.

[1:06:23] We'll follow the list. >> Thank you, madam, for the correct pronunciation of my

[1:06:29] name. >> Thank you. >> Hello, everybody. I'm going

[1:06:37] to do three things today and none of them are questions. I'm going to make an impact

[1:06:41] statement. I'm going to list ten questions related to the engineering firm. I did forward

[1:06:47] my email to you if you didn't get it. Mike has it. And and mayor at pointe-claire dot CA

[1:06:53] didn't work, by the way. >> Okay. >> So I'll start with that. And

[1:06:57] then finally, I'm a solutions guy. I'm a fixer. That's what I did all my career. I worked for

[1:07:02] Abbott Labs. I used to fix problems. So I'd like to also offer my services as a fixer.

[1:07:07] That's too much time. So my this is about the Del Mar deluge. So this is a resident

[1:07:14] impact statement. So good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of Council. Tonight I'd like to

[1:07:18] speak about what I have come to call the Del Mar deluge. I use that name because I believe the

[1:07:23] flooding affecting our neighborhood. District eight, district seven deserves to be

[1:07:27] recognized as more than isolated incidents. It has become a pattern that residents

[1:07:31] are living through, and it deserves to be understood. The Del Mar Watershed

[1:07:36] Infrastructure Project begins where the water starts its journey towards Lake Saint

[1:07:39] Louis. In my opinion, the upstream capacity was increased before the downstream

[1:07:44] infrastructure was improved. If that is true, then the project began at the wrong end. Before

[1:07:49] the Del Mar watershed project flooding was simply not part of our lives. It was not a concern

[1:07:55] for me. More importantly, it was not a concern for the residents I've spoken with over

[1:07:59] the past year. I've gone door to door and listened. One family told me they lived in

[1:08:04] their home for 20 years without basement flooding until recently. Another family 30

[1:08:08] years. Another told me 40 years. Just this past week, I met a lady named Susan who told me

[1:08:13] that her family has owned a home for 70 years and until recently, they have never

[1:08:19] experienced basement flooding. Every one of those conversations ended with the

[1:08:24] same question why is this happening now? It never happened before. I also spoke

[1:08:30] with the husband of a woman who works at a local restaurant. He told me they have made three

[1:08:34] insurance claims three times. Their basement has been flooded and they needed to be repaired

[1:08:39] three times. It has been flooded in three years. When he contacted the city, he was told

[1:08:44] the flooding was caused by an amount of rainfall and it was an act of nature. The residents

[1:08:48] hear that explanation. They also remember decades of major storms without flooding. Heavy

[1:08:53] rain is not new. Major storms are not new. The what is new is hearing the same words repeated

[1:09:00] through out our community. We never flooded until recently. During the most recent flood, I

[1:09:06] personally witnessed torrents of water beginning at the intersection of Del Mar and De

[1:09:10] Cano. I watched that water travel down Del Mar. Continue on to Saint Louis, through

[1:09:15] Broadview, Champlain towards Donegani. After the flood, I drove through the neighborhood.

[1:09:19] I did not need an engineering drawing to see the flood map. The flood map was visible in

[1:09:24] the piles of ruined belongings placed on the curb outside people's homes. It all points

[1:09:29] directly to the Del Mar infrastructure improvements during the same storm. Flooding

[1:09:33] also affected highway 40, resulting in the closure of the eastbound Sources Boulevard

[1:09:38] exit. To me, those observations raise an important question could these events be connected

[1:09:44] after the flood, the optics weren't good. In fact, they were missing. I apologize, I

[1:09:49] didn't. >> Know, I just I just want to ask you to be respectful of the

[1:09:53] time because everybody is going to get the same amount of time. We want to give as many people

[1:09:58] as much time, chance. >> When my impact statement is over, I will. I will do that.

[1:10:02] Thank you for freezing seconds. >> Let's go. >> So our community is not

[1:10:06] asking for sympathy. Our community is asking for answers. Thank you.

[1:10:10] >> Thank you. Perfect. And you're going to send us those ten questions, right? Thank you.

[1:10:20] I met with this gentleman just before the meeting tonight, and he had some great information.

[1:10:25] And I've asked I've asked to sit down with you and with Mr. Girouard so we can understand

[1:10:30] what you're telling. Exactly what you just told us. We'd like to understand what you're

[1:10:33] telling us, and we can probably learn from it. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

[1:10:38] >> Stephanie. Lorraine. >> Danny. Expertise. My name is Stephanie. Lorraine, I am a I

[1:10:58] am a member of the board of directors for prima three. Prima three co property, which

[1:11:03] represents 28 townhouse units at the end of Avenue Mason, which runs parallel to Jaime's

[1:11:08] Boulevard. I'm joined this evening by several of my neighbors if they want to wave.

[1:11:14] And I wanted to just provide some context about the situation that we have been

[1:11:18] experiencing since 2022. So for context, our townhomes were delivered less than five years

[1:11:24] ago, and we've continually dealt with poor water drainage from our property during any

[1:11:28] heavy rainfall. There are actually nine recorded incidents that I've brought

[1:11:33] with me today in the last four years, where residents have had to spend hours manually pumping

[1:11:39] water from their garages and their common areas to avoid flooding in their basements.

[1:11:45] And then we've had three instances in the last four years where, unfortunately, our

[1:11:49] efforts were not able to prevent this from happening, and we've had to rebuild

[1:11:55] garages and basements from the ground up. And our community is only sorry. It's been a really

[1:12:01] tough time, but our community is only five years old. Given the frequency and severity of

[1:12:10] these events, we would like to ask the city and the council what steps we can take together

[1:12:17] with the engineering department and your council, to have an assessment of the drainage

[1:12:23] infrastructure between our property and the municipal stormwater systems to determine

[1:12:28] the cause of these reoccurring floods. Yeah. So we're looking for guidance today on what next

[1:12:35] steps we can take to try to protect the safety of our community. We've spent many

[1:12:40] hours waiting in hazardous water with electrical issues, and we're we're just trying to

[1:12:48] protect the safety of our community and look for your guidance.

[1:12:50] >> We have some pictures here. If you want to take a. >> Look, just give the pictures

[1:12:55] to the police. >> So and I apologize for I didn't think I was going to be

[1:12:59] emotional. >> You're allowed to be. >> You're allowed to be

[1:13:02] emotional. It's not it's not a fun time. And we've all had. Don't worry about that. Listen,

[1:13:06] I Andrews brought it up quite often. It's been an ongoing issue in that project for a

[1:13:11] long time. I was here in 17 to 21 when some issues started. We had we had some issues with the

[1:13:21] whole project. Overall, I don't want to get into details. I thought some of it had been

[1:13:26] resolved, but obviously with the flooding that just happened last week, I know that we sent

[1:13:32] some people over there to ditch seem to be flowing, but it wasn't probably flowing enough

[1:13:36] because the amount of water and so on and so forth. So I'm going to meet with the director

[1:13:41] general. We got your contact information. And again, maybe it's a situation where we have

[1:13:44] to look at if our biggest problem in there is not only it's a lot of it is on private

[1:13:50] property and you guys have an association and so on and so forth. So we have to look at

[1:13:55] the legalities. We have to look all around that. And what's our responsibility? What's your

[1:13:59] responsibility? There's lots to look at, but I can tell you that we will we'll we'll we'll

[1:14:03] look at it. We're looking at them all. And you get on the list and we'll reach out to you

[1:14:08] and we'll try to understand your particular problem and take it from there.

[1:14:13] >> Thank you. We we appreciate your investment in time in the water issues holistically

[1:14:17] across point, Claire. And I think know that our co-ownership. We are 28 owners,

[1:14:23] owners and occupants who love the city of Pointe Claire. I grew up here for the first 20

[1:14:28] years of my life and moved back to raise my family. And so just know that you have partners in

[1:14:34] collaboration with us to find that solution. We're ready to do our part and have been

[1:14:39] consistently spending dollars on evac and maintaining the ditch and trying to do our part.

[1:14:44] So please just know that we can be partners in this together. >> But any information that you

[1:14:49] have that could help us, like you say, you had Sandy back coming, you've cleaned the

[1:14:53] ditch. All this kind of stuff would be great information for us that we could work with that

[1:14:57] would help us understand, okay, you're cleaning. Let's sit down, let's have a conversation and

[1:15:01] get all that information together and we'll see. No promises. But we, we'll, we'll,

[1:15:06] we'll work with you if we can. >> And who should we share? I know we've reached out a couple

[1:15:10] of times because we've prepared a report of all the incidences and all of our efforts today.

[1:15:15] What is the most appropriate place to send that information to ensure that it reaches you?

[1:15:19] >> Well, you can send it right to my office if you want to. John dot belvedere at

[1:15:23] pointe-claire dot CA. There's no problem. >> Okay. We'll reshare. Thank

[1:15:26] you so much. >> For your time on the internet. Eric has something.

[1:15:29] >> To say. May I ask a question? Just curious. 28 homes, the way they're structured, do they

[1:15:34] fall? Currently, under our proposed bylaw that we're. >> Well, that's what.

[1:15:38] >> That's what's you know what I mean? That's an interesting question to.

[1:15:41] >> Yeah, that's what we have to. >> Look at. Yeah, exactly. >> You ask that question. We're

[1:15:45] going to look at it. Thank you. >> Jean Belanger. >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor. And

[1:15:58] council members. I was first time I'm ever attending a council meeting. I am I am a 42

[1:16:05] year resident on Winthrop. And I know you are well aware of what happened on Winthrop. This

[1:16:11] is the first time that we've ever been flooded in, in the 42 years, two times in a row,

[1:16:18] within two years. So. Susan Weaver actually asked the question that one of the

[1:16:26] questions I had concerning the Sinovac, I'm a little unclear. So you mentioned that

[1:16:32] Pointe-Claire is getting their own machine to do this type of cleanup.

[1:16:35] >> Over the past, we have we have a piece of equipment that can do some of the work, but

[1:16:40] we've been using standing back for many years to do our our regular maintenance, let's call

[1:16:44] it. Okay. >> And so that has been in place in the past.

[1:16:47] >> That's been in the, in, in place for a while now. Yes. >> Yeah.

[1:16:51] >> And. And now what we've done is we've, we're ordering our own vehicle just so we have it

[1:16:57] all the time and we can be quicker cleaning some spots when there is an issue, like

[1:17:02] when Del Mar flooded, had we had our own truck, maybe we could have gone. And just this

[1:17:07] just maybe it's just I don't know if it would work, but, you know, we go and clean off those

[1:17:12] sewers with our own truck instead of having a man in there with a shovel. Whatever

[1:17:16] is going to make it better, we think it will. So these are all things we're looking at trying

[1:17:21] to do. >> Okay, well, I'm grateful that it's being looked at and

[1:17:24] I'm sure you are. There does seem to clearly be a problem suddenly in in the area. Yeah.

[1:17:30] The other thing that I wanted to bring up was the Saint Louis. A lot of changes were done to

[1:17:35] that school. And so a lot of the grass area was changed. And it's now all wood chips, which

[1:17:40] I think are contributing to perhaps the flow. Good as as well as they have a, a bus lane

[1:17:49] now that goes around there, which is asphalt, which has a slight slope towards Winthrop

[1:17:54] as well. So that might not be helping our situation either. It's, it's good to know that

[1:18:04] you're, you're doing what you can and that you are aware of the problem. But it's a little

[1:18:08] frightening to think that this like everyone's saying it might happen again. I, as a homeowner,

[1:18:14] I am putting in place the, the things that I can backflow valves and sub pumps and, and

[1:18:19] so on. >> And understand the, the flood anxiety, if you want to

[1:18:24] call that. Yeah. Because even though you might get hit this time, you might get hit next

[1:18:28] time. And, you know, we don't know what Mother Nature has to offer anymore. And they tell us

[1:18:33] one thing. We get something completely different. So we don't, I mean, I don't again,

[1:18:36] we don't have a solution for that. >> No.

[1:18:39] >> But the best we can do is at some point, if we've done everything we can, the

[1:18:43] homeowner, like if you've done everything you can, I've done everything in my house. And at

[1:18:47] some point you have to say, okay, I've done what I can and let the, you know, hopefully it

[1:18:52] all works out and hopefully we won't have to test them. >> Right? Well, I'm not an

[1:18:56] engineer. I don't understand how it works. And I know you have an engineering department.

[1:19:00] It just is is helpful for us to know that you are. You do acknowledge the problem in the

[1:19:05] area and that there's something that could be done. And on a positive note, I really wanted

[1:19:09] to say that I was very impressed with the quick mobilization that you put into

[1:19:13] place of taking all the debris off everyone's property in a very short amount of time.

[1:19:17] >> Well. >> That help with anxiety too. >> And it did.

[1:19:20] >> And, you know, again, I'm going to compliment the the public works guys. And even

[1:19:25] before we got that, that flooding that day on that Thursday, I mentioned earlier,

[1:19:30] we had already started putting in procedures into place just in case because we were

[1:19:34] expecting not that much. We were expecting something earlier on the Friday. And it

[1:19:38] goes to show you that we've, we've, we've changed our whole operating procedures. We're

[1:19:41] following the weather, and we're giving ourselves time now to do certain things that

[1:19:45] hopefully will help that, you know, if we do get the big rains that we're well, well

[1:19:50] prepared. And yeah, it's it's a joint effort, right. And we're going to keep on trying to look

[1:19:56] at solutions and procedures to try to alleviate as much of as we can.

[1:20:00] >> Okay. Well, thank you very much. >> Thank you. You have to

[1:20:02] compliment your your counselor, Eric Storch, because he was phenomenal.

[1:20:06] >> He was. >> Absolutely he's phenomenal. >> He got his your district got

[1:20:10] hit really, really bad. I was driving around and it was phenomenal. Yeah.

[1:20:13] >> We we know that we have a very good direct line and. >> Yes, exactly.

[1:20:19] >> Sympathetic and helpful. >> Thank you. I love the walking ladies, the lady

[1:20:24] walkers every day. They're on the little corner. Right. >> Jerry?

[1:20:37] >> Good evening Melissa. Good evening. My first time. But we'll try it again. It's

[1:20:44] regarding engineering. What's the third year in a row now that I get flooded? But it's

[1:20:51] also three neighbors around that. Probably because of my driveway and the water on our

[1:20:57] street. Parkland 49, parkland. It flows down where the same level of Saint Louis and the

[1:21:04] hill comes after our house. So everything comes to my house and my neighbor, our driveway

[1:21:11] are sloping towards the backyard. So our four neighbors are getting flooded. Last year

[1:21:18] after the flood, I called engineers to come and check it out. So I informed them, we

[1:21:25] have pipes in the back of our property, a big manhole that's empty and it house beautiful

[1:21:33] raccoon. So why not use for all that water? It took a while. Three phone calls and a

[1:21:41] gentleman working for the engineer Sean showed up. Very nice guy. I even helped him

[1:21:46] opening some of the manhole cover that they were going to bring cameras, inspection and

[1:21:52] so on to check it out. And I said, is there a way to find out what happened with this?

[1:22:00] Yes. If there's a problem, we'll let you know. Never heard anything, but I still got

[1:22:06] flooded this year. Not in the house though, in the garage and all the properties. So the

[1:22:13] flood is elsewhere. I know it's when we bought a house. Snow is new. Buy a shovel snow blower.

[1:22:21] Now for the spring we have to buy sump pump water barriers. So it's becoming crazy. I'm

[1:22:28] looking at a barrier to stop the water from the street, to come onto my land, property and

[1:22:34] my neighbor so it doesn't flood the other neighbor. We're talking six $7,000. It's crazy

[1:22:40] because the street is like this towards my place. So my question is, is it possible to

[1:22:47] get answers from the engineering to find out what the problem, what the solution?

[1:22:53] Maybe eventually I know it's not going to get done tomorrow. Everybody had the same problem.

[1:22:59] We don't expect stuff to change overnight, but we would like to have answers that, yes, it'll

[1:23:04] take a year. Meanwhile, we'll look at this. We'll look at that. It the politics is

[1:23:09] politics. We need more than politics. We need straight answers.

[1:23:14] >> I think it's simple. Your address. You got the gentleman's address, Mr. Girard,

[1:23:19] and we're making a list. And we're looking at all these situations. Everything we hear

[1:23:23] tonight, we're going to address. Okay, we're going to look at it. We're going to give it

[1:23:27] engineering. We're going to we're going to address them all. And that's why we put out a

[1:23:32] survey survey last week or two weeks ago asking people tell us where the problems are, because,

[1:23:36] I mean, we thought we had them all up until last week when we got that rain. We all new ones

[1:23:41] came up. So yes, we'll address it. And Mr. Girard will be in charge of making sure that. And

[1:23:46] he is not not that he's in charge. He is in charge. And he will make sure that it's looked

[1:23:51] at and he'll get an answer. >> Thank you. All right. Miss you Kelly.

[1:23:55] >> Nancy. >> You don't want her in the same room as us right now.

[1:23:59] >> Nancy McDonald. >> Good evening, mayor. >> Members of Council. Nancy

[1:24:12] McDonald, district eight. My family has lived in Pointe Claire for 24 years. The last

[1:24:19] three have been unpleasant. We've flooded three times. Water up to here, dirty, ugly

[1:24:27] sewage water up to here. Our home is a split level, so we have a basement and we have

[1:24:32] upstairs. We lost everything in the basement. We lost my daughter's room. We lost my

[1:24:36] husband's guitar studio. We lost everything in our garage, our bathroom and our family

[1:24:42] room twice. We are probably $120,000 out of pocket leading into today. I was coming here

[1:24:53] today to ask you what you were going to do for your citizens. And I saw that you're doing

[1:24:58] something, but it's not enough. It's not enough. I am between we are between the Delmar

[1:25:11] Deluge and whatever is happening on Winthrop, we're right in the middle. If you

[1:25:16] look at Compton Crescent, we are 25 Compton Crescent. We have a sloping driveway the

[1:25:21] other side of our crescent. I don't think any house has got anything on our side because it

[1:25:26] comes like this. And I unfortunately bought a house with a sloping driveway. I

[1:25:31] shouldn't have done that, but 24 years ago, when we're a young family with young

[1:25:35] children, we were enthralled of raising our children in Pointe Claire and enthralled with

[1:25:40] owning that house. I can't afford to live there anymore, I can't. So basically, our family

[1:25:47] is living in a five and a half upper because we can't do the basement. The $5,000 that

[1:25:53] you're offering is not going to help us. We have a sloping driveway, so we have to put in

[1:25:58] a sump pump that costs money. The sloping driveway, like the gentleman said before, we have

[1:26:02] to put a barrier that's going to cost us upwards of $25,000. We have to do because of the

[1:26:08] house that we chose in Pointe Claire, something needs to be done because I can't sell it.

[1:26:14] Nobody's going to buy it. What am I going to do? What are we going to do?

[1:26:26] >> I don't I mean, I don't have all the answers for you. I don't have them. I feel very,

[1:26:31] very bad for you. You're killing me. But you know, the $5,000, maybe it's not enough,

[1:26:37] but we got 12,000 homes. We got many, many residents that we have to deal with. It's a

[1:26:41] beginning. And we're and we're trying to find solutions to help everybody doing what we

[1:26:45] can do on our side, I mean, our infrastructure and then helping the people do what you can do

[1:26:51] on your side. It will never be enough. I'm sorry. And we just as a city, we can't afford to

[1:26:56] just have open coffee. >> Can I make a suggestion? >> Absolutely.

[1:26:59] >> You said you're bringing in a consulting team to work with us. Can that consulting team

[1:27:03] not evaluate the homes and distribute the money accordingly? Instead of just

[1:27:08] throwing $5,000 at everybody? Because what if one and I'm not asking to rebuild my own home,

[1:27:15] I'm asking to make it safe to live in. That's all I want. But $5,000 isn't going to cut it.

[1:27:22] Maybe the person up the street is going to be okay with something that's $2,500 based

[1:27:26] on that evaluation, and maybe we need ten. And then all your residents have what they have

[1:27:31] or have what they need to be able to continue to live in Pointe Claire, if you're

[1:27:35] bringing in that consulting company, why can't they do that? I'm not asking for an answer

[1:27:40] today or tomorrow, but if that consulting company can come in and do the proper evaluation

[1:27:45] that we need to be able to continue to live in Pointe Claire, that seems like it

[1:27:49] would make more sense instead of just throwing money to the. >> Wind.

[1:27:52] >> I did that consulting company. You can hire that consulting company. They'll

[1:27:55] come and do your house. We'll pay for that consulting company to come in and evaluate your

[1:27:59] house. They won't tell you who to use, but they'll tell you what you can do and give you a

[1:28:04] plan, what you can do to make your house more water resilient. That's the whole purpose of it.

[1:28:09] These are experts. These are people that go around. That's what they'll do. That's part of

[1:28:13] the plan. That's part of our program. That's one of the services.

[1:28:16] >> But that's what I'm saying. Somebody up the street is going to need $2,000 of your city

[1:28:20] money. I might need eight. >> I you know what? Right now, I mean, right now I can't make

[1:28:25] any decisions except tonight we're going to pass what we got. So we get the ball rolling for

[1:28:30] tomorrow, which is $5,000. And maybe we'll be a program that will evolve down the road. I

[1:28:34] don't know, but let's I mean, I know, I know. >> It won't. Help you. It won't

[1:28:38] help you in your. >> Situation. But let's get the ball rolling tomorrow. The

[1:28:42] money will be available for a lot of people will help them a lot. Maybe we have to up the

[1:28:47] plan or change something. Who knows? We might have to. But right now, tonight, we can't.

[1:28:51] Right now we're adopting that. But your comments are been taken and noted, and it was

[1:28:55] something that council is going to talk about for sure. Thank you. Okay. But please like use

[1:28:59] that company please. >> Lori LaFleur. >> Good evening. Hi, Mike, my

[1:29:15] city councilor. I'm actually Mrs. McDonald's neighbor on Compton Crescent as well. I've

[1:29:21] been flooded three times. Unfortunately, I haven't had it as bad as a lot of my neighbors,

[1:29:26] including Nancy. I moved to Point Clair about 24 years ago to start a family, and right

[1:29:35] now the 24 years were great and now I live in fear. I have children, we have a life in our

[1:29:43] basement. I definitely need the contact number to this company that you're providing because I

[1:29:51] can't live like this. We all have PTSD on our street. Every time it rains, we're all like

[1:29:56] nervous. And the anxiety. It's no quality of life. I came to Pointe Claire for quality of

[1:30:03] life, and I don't have it anymore. And I'm older and my neighbors are older. I have a

[1:30:09] neighbor right next to me. 18 Compton put in two sump pumps and she flooded a third time.

[1:30:16] I'm not blaming only the city. There is climate change. But you dug up Winthrop. It flooded.

[1:30:23] You dug up Delmar. It flooded. You dug up Hymas. It floods every time. Something is not

[1:30:28] right. It's not only the weather. >> Well.

[1:30:36] >> It just goes to show you. I'm not discrediting what you said, but it just goes to show

[1:30:42] you we're learning, even though the streets have been redone. Okay, so the streets are new

[1:30:46] latest standards. The all the right stuff has been done and they still flooded. Why?

[1:30:50] >> Why? Well, they're not. >> Still flooding. They're starting to flood.

[1:30:53] >> But why? >> Every time you finish a project, when it rains, it

[1:30:57] floods. >> But when it rains, the amount of rain that we're

[1:31:00] getting in a short period of time, because we never experienced that before. So

[1:31:03] we're going on. >> You go back to 2024. We didn't have this amount of rain

[1:31:07] last year. We didn't have not not in this short amount of time.

[1:31:13] >> So so, you know, I like what you said, like you, it's not only, well, let's start with,

[1:31:21] you know, the quality of life in Pointe Claire. We didn't change the quality of life.

[1:31:25] It's not we understand your every one of us here flooded. I flooded, he flooded. He most of

[1:31:29] us all flooded. We all lived the same thing that you've all lived. We're not immune to this.

[1:31:34] So I feel for you. And I'm in the same position as you. I'm over $100,000 in and I got no

[1:31:40] more insurance. Okay? First time in 35 years. So I get it. Okay, so. But we have to get

[1:31:45] through it together and, and we have to do we and we, we have sat down, we have had six

[1:31:51] meetings or five meetings on budgets, on trying to find money increasing what we're

[1:31:55] going to be spending on fixing stuff this year. Next year, we're doing what we can. First

[1:31:59] of all, we have to find the money. Second of all, you have to come up with the engineering.

[1:32:04] Third of all, we have to find the contractor to do it. It's a process and we're expediting

[1:32:08] even this this financial aid program that's only supposed to come out in the fall, September,

[1:32:12] October. We put it through for tonight because we know we need to you need everybody needs

[1:32:16] help right now. So we're trying to do what we can. And as much as shocking to you, it's

[1:32:21] shocking to our system to, to our. Everything has to change here to our our engineering

[1:32:25] department is overwhelmed. All the subcontractors we use, they're all overwhelmed too,

[1:32:29] because it didn't only happen in Pointe Claire. It happened throughout the Dollard. Over

[1:32:34] 4000, over 2000 homes. Pierre. And he got. So it's not only us. We're. We're living this

[1:32:40] together and it's traumatic. And I mean, I wish we could control the guy upstairs, you

[1:32:46] know, give us a break. But we have to. >> Well, he wasn't listening to

[1:32:50] me. We have to deal with. We're not. >> Going to get a breakthrough.

[1:32:53] We have to figure out a way. That's our new reality. That's our mindset. Now this is going

[1:32:57] to happen again, right? We have to figure out a way to be able to get through it. And that's

[1:33:02] what we're trying to do. And every one of these conversations and every day

[1:33:06] we're talking to people all helping is not solving the problem now, but we're trying

[1:33:10] to get there. So, I mean, it's been 30 days, 20 days. We're on the since the last storm we

[1:33:15] thought we were doing, you know, we we're really advancing good with some of the projects that

[1:33:19] the lady said that little berm worked or whatever. But hey, you know what? That helped her.

[1:33:24] But everybody else, we're still waiting now because we just, you know, there's just so much

[1:33:27] to do. >> Okay. Well, thank. >> You for sorry, I don't have

[1:33:31] I don't. >> And I do. Have empathy for everybody that flooded by the

[1:33:34] way. I feel like I'm lucky I didn't have sewage. I didn't have a foot of water. But it's

[1:33:40] the third time that my home's been disrupted, you know? So I do feel for all of

[1:33:47] Pointe-Claire residents and, and piriform, I don't take anything away from them.

[1:33:52] >> Just we're all in this together, and we have to try to figure out a way to get through

[1:33:57] it together to and find solutions like we're learning off other, you know, in the

[1:34:00] last year when wherever it was we had a flood, we actually reached out to people because

[1:34:05] people were so good at holding back water in the springtime along the shoreline. Why? We

[1:34:11] reached out to them to see how we could hold back the water temporarily on terra cotta and

[1:34:15] Sedgefield with these portable berms or whatever. That's what motivated us to build a

[1:34:19] permanent berm. So we reach out and we're learning from each other and try to find solutions.

[1:34:23] So it's a great community for that. >> Okay. Well thank you.

[1:34:26] >> Thank you. >> Martin Gendron. >> I.

[1:35:09] >> Dans les bords les ruisseau drainage. Sunnyside dans ses sondages. Considéré. Par des

[1:35:22] équipes des peintres. Recalculate la pointe des ruisseau. ET pour. Des maisons

[1:35:35] au maisons. ET qui. A les gens ont répondu la ville, la troisieme question c'était dans

[1:35:47] une corvette, la derniere question c'était de la terre, mais c'est pas directoire le

[1:35:56] sinister. La vision dans la reprise du sondage voisins, alors répondu au dela des

[1:36:02] questions les plus. C'est tout le systeme de revoir. Dans ces changement climatique. Du

[1:36:16] dernier devient désormais la norme banal. IL faut construire. Merci pour les interventions.

[1:36:29] Vous avez des chemins de terracotta. ET la terre et le brouette par les travaux

[1:36:41] publics en équipe de maisons, pas de travail et sans doute nos meilleures. Conclusion, la

[1:36:50] ville est capable d'appliquer la meilleure solution. Selon sa propre evaluation. Merci de

[1:36:59] nous entendre et de recevoir nos commentaires, comme nous, vous demandons, mais ce soir. I

[1:37:07] will not be complete without reading this. The more asphalt and concrete we lay down, the

[1:37:15] more driveways we enlarge, the more asphalt shingle tar roofs we built. And quoting here,

[1:37:23] quoting. The more we contribute to this climate changes for which the fastest growing

[1:37:30] ecosystem is the desert. And that's. Robert that's s Robert Aitken, chair of the geography

[1:37:38] Department of Concordia, many time published on the topic in 1990. My mentor. Thank you sir.

[1:37:47] >> Thank you very much. >> Janet. Hannah. >> Good evening all. Before

[1:38:05] starting, I just wanted to say that respectfully. I disagree with your decision to leave the

[1:38:11] flood questions to the end. This is on our minds. It's a priority. It is very, very

[1:38:17] important to us. It has disrupted our lives professionally, physically,

[1:38:22] mentally, emotionally. And I think it should have been brought to the forefront and

[1:38:26] not left to the end. >> I just did it so that. The whole purpose was to give you

[1:38:35] as much time as you needed, so you could hear. We could hear as many as we could.

[1:38:39] >> That's not that I don't agree with that. It's a priority. It should have been

[1:38:43] done first. It disrupted all of our lives. It's caused us dramatic stress, and it still

[1:38:50] does. You can hear it in our voices. Several people have even cried. So I think that you

[1:38:56] need to revise your priorities. We've lived in Pointe Claire for 40 years in the Valois area

[1:39:03] for 23 years. In 20 out of 23 years, we've never had any floods. Never. All of a sudden,

[1:39:10] three years in a row, we have flooded. You may want to blame it on climate change, the

[1:39:16] so-called warming of the planet. Don't insult our intelligence with that. Prior to climate

[1:39:22] change or warming of the planet, we had acid rain. Big deal. We had the ozone layer that was

[1:39:28] disappearing holes in the ozone layer. We had also climate change, but cooling of the

[1:39:32] planet at some point, Y2K end of the world, fear mongering, basically total fear mongering.

[1:39:41] The common denominator in the past three years is the new construction all over, just in

[1:39:49] donegani five buildings and growing. We pay property taxes, school taxes, water taxes,

[1:39:58] provincial income taxes, federal income taxes, GST, QST and all the streets. Where's

[1:40:05] our money going? Where's our money going? I'm not done yet. Rhetorical question. We know

[1:40:12] where it's going. Unfortunately, the land near the Valois community garden is 30 to 50cm

[1:40:20] higher than the land around our property. Thus, the water that comes down flows directly to

[1:40:26] our houses. Instead of moving away and towards the community garden, the land there needs to

[1:40:33] be much lower. Something needs to be done so that the water flows away from the homes and

[1:40:39] not towards them. What do you plan on doing and by when to to ensure that we no longer have

[1:40:48] any floods and so that our money is properly used. And I do want to add .6.1, 6.2, 6.3,

[1:40:59] 6.4. My personal opinion to vote on them. I disagree with all of them. That is money that

[1:41:04] should be kept in the coffers for us, and that should be used for that woman whose house was

[1:41:10] flooded, and she needs to pay 120 over to, to, to rebuild her house. Not going to a golf

[1:41:19] course, certainly not giving money away to other organizations needs to go to

[1:41:24] the people in Pointe Claire who pay for it. >> Thank you, thank you.

[1:41:44] >> Good evening everybody. I think the subject of the day is the floating. Everybody is

[1:41:49] complaining about the flood and the same reasons and the same answer we get. But we have to

[1:41:57] consider a lot more than the damages for each each flood that we have. Even we have to

[1:42:04] consider the price of our houses. Our neighbor is selling a house with 90 9000 less than

[1:42:11] the evolution of the city. Is that normal? It's not normal. He's losing money. So it's not

[1:42:19] normal that we lose. We work, we improve our houses, we renovate our houses, and in the

[1:42:27] end we lose money and we lose our house. So I understand the community needs a lot, needs

[1:42:39] bike paths. But do you imagine seeing water on the street like this? It doesn't pass through

[1:42:45] the pipe path. The bike path is higher than our street, the higher higher than our houses.

[1:42:51] All the water comes toward the houses, the baseball field. The baseball field was renovated a

[1:42:58] few years ago. It was hired up. It probably has a French drain that is connected to the

[1:43:06] collector right next to our houses, which is will be full. You suggested pumps, some pumps.

[1:43:14] Everybody has some pumps. What they do nothing, because the pipes that drains around the

[1:43:21] houses, they are full of water. The level on the street is so high. The level of the water on

[1:43:30] the street is so high that our French drain is full of water. It doesn't do nothing. It works.

[1:43:36] Everybody inspected, everybody has a tested and everything is working around the houses. The

[1:43:44] slope of the house. We redid our pavé, our dolls, our driveways, just in the hope

[1:43:51] that the water will go away from the house. And it's not it's not because we are high.

[1:43:59] The drain. French drain is down the water. The water level is too high, so it's coming toward

[1:44:05] the houses. So what about our taxes? Do we still pay the same taxes even if the house is lost?

[1:44:16] The price. >> Are you asking for an answer? >> Yes.

[1:44:21] >> I'm waiting. Listen, first of all, your money in Pointe-Claire is very well

[1:44:27] spent and it goes in the right places. So whoever said it doesn't go in the right place?

[1:44:32] Don't forget, we give $0.58 on the dollar to Montreal. So $0.58. So you we run the city

[1:44:38] on the difference. Okay. On the 40, $0.42 on the dollar we run the city, all your services,

[1:44:44] all the the, the stuff that we offer, all the snow removal, which is minimal. Okay. That's,

[1:44:50] that's our biggest problem. We were able to keep the $106 million we send to Montreal. We

[1:44:54] could do a lot more with it. We're much better managed than any than Montreal is

[1:44:58] financially. All the municipalities are well managed. Our problem is, and you said it,

[1:45:02] everybody in this room has said it. Your house is now flooded in 20 years, 30 years. In the

[1:45:07] last three years, it's flooded. I mean, we're every one of us is in the same boat, but we

[1:45:12] can't change an infrastructure that's been there since the 1940s. Overnight, it just

[1:45:17] started happening. It's a new reality. We're adapting to it. We're learning, we're trying to

[1:45:21] figure it out, and we're willing to put the money where it has to go. But we have to.

[1:45:26] It takes time. We cannot resolve it overnight. And every one of us are concerned. We're

[1:45:31] working day and night on flooding. That's what we're doing. Our priorities are

[1:45:34] flooding. We're doing it. But you can only do so much in a year. You can only do so much

[1:45:39] in a week, and you only have so many employees to do it. Right. So we are taking all I can tell

[1:45:45] you, and I know you can believe me, or you don't have to believe me, but I can tell you

[1:45:50] we are making this a priority and we've kept our word from the time we got elected. We

[1:45:54] made a priority. December 15th. There was a meeting here telling people what we have

[1:45:58] been doing from. And I was impressed with the amount of work that had been done, the

[1:46:02] number of studies, the number of the way they were testing the pipes and the flows and the

[1:46:07] identifying it. So we're doing what we can do. But you're talking something, you know,

[1:46:10] that everybody's been trying for all these years and three years. It's changing. We're

[1:46:14] supposed to solve it overnight. We have to do it together and it's going to take time. But

[1:46:18] we're going to get there. But we, we, we, we, we, we're not the only point. We're not the

[1:46:23] only city flooding. It's province wide. It's Saskatoon got fricking 200mm of rain the

[1:46:30] other day. They're completely wiped out. It's it's a world problem. It's not just here. So

[1:46:34] we are trying our best. We've been here. We've been dealing with this for the last eight

[1:46:38] months. And we're making headway. We're doing more. I can say this. We're doing more

[1:46:42] than any municipality in the West Island, more than any municipality. We put more money,

[1:46:47] we started more projects. We got programs to they're not too much, but we started the

[1:46:54] program. We're doing more than to make our city water resistant, resilient. That's

[1:46:59] all we can do. We can't stop the water from falling, but we have to stop it from going in

[1:47:04] our houses. That's what we have to do, right? So, you know, the insurance companies, I mean,

[1:47:08] they're they've wiped us all off the map saying they're not going to insure us anymore. So,

[1:47:13] you know, we have to find we, we have to find a way that we can stop it from getting into

[1:47:18] our basement. And they're going to tell us you're not allowed to have a finished basement or

[1:47:22] don't put your furnaces downstairs. And that's where they're going because they know

[1:47:25] they can't resolve the problem overnight. Right. And they know, you know, we have to assume

[1:47:29] it's going to happen again. So we somehow we have to figure out, and that's what we hired

[1:47:34] that company for. Who are experts who can at least look at your property and say, okay,

[1:47:38] get rid of your basement window. They'll put a, I don't know what they'll tell you what to

[1:47:43] do or what to put a sump pump or whatever. But this is how we're going to one house at a

[1:47:48] time, one day at a time. We got to start making our properties water resilience. That's what

[1:47:52] we have to do. And we can do what we can do on our side. And we're asking you to do what you

[1:47:58] on your side. And that's why we're offering something. Is it enough? It will never be enough,

[1:48:02] but it's a beginning. So I mean, you just have to every one of us here tonight have to

[1:48:07] understand we're all in the same boat. We want to work with you. We're not trying to fight

[1:48:11] the system here. We're trying to work with. But again, we got a big area to cover, a huge

[1:48:16] area 30. We got 12, 15,000 homes to deal with. It doesn't happen overnight. We got 200km

[1:48:21] of pipes to deal with. You know, there's a lot of stuff, a lot. But we are working the best we

[1:48:27] can and the most efficiency to try to get to the bottom of it. That's all I can tell you. And

[1:48:32] I'm proud to say that because we're not sitting around. Oh yeah, a bunch of bureaucrats,

[1:48:36] they don't care. We care. This is a conversation every day, meeting after meeting, after

[1:48:41] meeting the gentleman from Southwood. Whatever. We stopped for two days this week talking

[1:48:45] about all the ditches behind private homes. Nobody knows that in this room. We sat down.

[1:48:49] We started talking about them. Some of them are whose responsibilities are. Nobody

[1:48:53] knows. They've been there for 100 years. But who owns them? Who's going to clean them? We

[1:48:57] have to start looking. We're looking at everything. And it takes time, though.

[1:49:01] >> Thank you very much. I really appreciate all the effort of the city. I know

[1:49:06] there is efforts. I know that everybody is working for that, but just have to understand

[1:49:12] that we are totally desperate. We are living in a stress. We can't live from homes, we don't

[1:49:20] sleep. We. We hear the rain. We wake up and we go downstairs right away to see if it's

[1:49:26] floating or not. It's, you know, it's unbearable. >> I totally understand that. I

[1:49:31] totally understand that. Believe me. I mean, I've lived what you've lived. We've all

[1:49:35] lived. We totally get that. And we're in the same boat. I want to go away for a week, and I

[1:49:41] worry if I go away in the rain, what's going to happen? So I understand it. Believe me, I

[1:49:45] understand it, but I don't you know, I don't have a quick answer. All I can tell you is

[1:49:50] that we're doing everything we can. And I appreciate your your understanding and your concerns.

[1:49:55] And I appreciate that a lot because we're not just closing our eyes. Yeah. It's not going

[1:50:00] to rain again. It's okay. No, no, we're taking this serious. >> Thank you very much. Thank

[1:50:05] you. >> Lucy Ayala. Lucy Ayala. >> Madame Gutierrez, how many

[1:50:47] more people are left for questions? >> One.

[1:50:49] >> Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. Seven. Eight. Nine. Ten. 11121314. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19.

[1:50:56] Probably like 20. Okay. Yeah. So we're going missus. Yeah. >> Well, maybe we can group

[1:51:01] some of them together. I think everybody has the same concerns. I mean I don't know what how we

[1:51:06] can do. Well let's keep going. We're going to keep going and we'll see how it goes. And

[1:51:10] maybe we can try to. I don't want everybody have to stay here all night. I mean, I feel

[1:51:15] bad that. >> I want to scratch out Missus Ayala, who doesn't seem to be

[1:51:19] answering. >> The list. >> Yeah. I propose that we

[1:51:38] extend to. >> Seconded. >> I seconded.

[1:51:45] >> Thank you. >> So the next person. >> Connu pour malheureusement

[1:52:14] des amendments exceptionnelles les specialists nous dice de plus en plus fréquentes avec

[1:52:20] les changements climatiques pour développer des. Sur un territoire resistant avec des

[1:52:26] Marais des villes et plusieurs ruisseaux, notamment le ruisseau terra-cotta Valois.

[1:52:32] Les vieux de NE avec l'urbanisation. ONT été intégrée au réseau des groups

[1:52:41] pluvial. ET en fonction des réalités de l'époque. NE pouvait prévoir le

[1:52:51] développement commercial residential aujourd'hui Pointe Claire. Stationnement asphalt

[1:52:58] et les immeubles superficial les tours residential ou encore l'arrivée. De la brosse East

[1:53:10] Brunswick. Comme le point de vue de la ville. Alors depuis les surfaces et les secteurs

[1:53:19] absorbents du tout le puy est rapidement dirigée par le réseau pluvial qui. Converge en

[1:53:27] suite vers le secteur de la dans le lac Saint Louis, principalement de l'Abbaye de

[1:53:35] Valois, la joint derniere. Du Puy en trois sur l'ensemble du territoire de Pointe-Claire,

[1:53:47] représente pres de 2.7 million liters equivalent Piscine olympique aucun. Volume IL n'a

[1:53:58] pas été adaptée a l'évolution de la ville. Les travaux de la ville la situation par le

[1:54:09] probleme de font la loi de physique des liquides de. La capacité maximum a un autre qui

[1:54:20] sont les. Dons a la source. Seulement dans les niveaux de développement des ouvrages de

[1:54:32] travers. Les qui utilize davantage comme le bassin de retention des monuments pour

[1:54:45] notamment jouer un role important puisqu'il déja plusieurs. Temporaires de

[1:54:57] construction, qui ont le ruisseau des eaux pluvial. Projet démontre son terrain

[1:55:07] l'équivalent. 000 millimeters depuis. Du réseau des groups pluvial de three dimensional de

[1:55:22] l'ensemble du réseau et des rapports provenant des seigneurs afin de les

[1:55:27] différents scenarios depuis des établissements nécessaires pour les personnes de.

[1:55:34] >> Merci, monsieur le point premier. Les nouveaux projet et les nouveaux projets, mais les

[1:55:42] nouveaux projets, IL faut qui suivent un nouveau norme pour la loi sur le terrain, les

[1:55:49] nouveaux les projets e. >> Tower avec un. Avec un. Peu au bout de.

[1:56:07] >> La. Par les. Nouveaux parties de la vie dans la recherche sur le terrain. En

[1:56:24] regard to those de calcul, calculate the volume de l'hopital mais pour. On a

[1:56:32] parlez vous avez. And document pour le mountain de la. Voir, monsieur. Du travail. Piece

[1:56:46] about 18 years old to see the. No no project future. So merci for me. I can tell you a

[1:57:01] nouveau project présentée par la calcul expectations. Le nouveau. La réponse de. De la

[1:57:21] ensemble. De calcul. Okay, merci beaucoup. >> Mr. Mayor. And I had just a

[1:57:28] precision to Mr. Le Point. Just. Avec l'école technologie supérieure par rapport a

[1:57:36] pluvial par des recommandations sur sa fait partie de planification pour améliorer le

[1:57:42] réseau. >> Merci. >> Tom Fullerton.

[1:57:54] >> Good evening, good evening. A lot of the points that I wanted to raise have already

[1:58:00] been raised. I think you've heard the message. I think you've heard the applause from

[1:58:03] the people outside. There's a lot of emotions and a lot of people's lives have been

[1:58:10] disrupted. So I won't go through all of that again. Thank you. The point I would

[1:58:14] like to emphasize is communication. We receive already a lot of alerts from

[1:58:19] Pointe Claire for garbage pickup or other changes to schedules. We were returning

[1:58:26] from up north when this latest rainfall hit. We received no alerts even though we could

[1:58:33] barely drive to our residence on Broadview. The streets below and above were all blocked. We

[1:58:41] didn't get an alert. >> We had a debriefing the day after, and that came up and has

[1:58:45] been addressed. And it's a great point you're bringing up, and we're making taking

[1:58:49] measures to make sure that we can be able to do that in the future.

[1:58:53] >> I hope so, I think along those same lines, I think the frustration that you're hearing

[1:58:57] from a lot of residents and the frustration that I hear up and down our street, people with

[1:59:02] two sump pumps, French drain. The guy's a plumber, he's put in everything, and he still

[1:59:07] floods. And it's not rainwater, it's his toilet skyrocketing. Like this is. Obviously the

[1:59:15] aqueducts can no longer handle the volume of rain that we're receiving. Two years ago, we

[1:59:21] had 50mm in an hour, 80mm in an hour, and now 150 to 180. The rate of change is enormous. I

[1:59:33] don't think that we can easily rip up all the aqueducts and replace them with large pipes.

[1:59:38] I understand that point, but I think that other measures, and I hope in the consultation

[1:59:43] process with this external firm, that you come up with temporary measures as well as long term

[1:59:50] development, so that if we're putting in new developments, that those developments are

[1:59:55] tied to infrastructure improvements. >> Absolutely.

[1:59:59] >> It's not enough to put a tank on the bottom of a department.

[2:00:03] >> Sure. I can't hear you. I'm sorry. >> That's okay. I'm glad for

[2:00:06] the applause. I think that we can't rely on a tank under the apartments, given the rate of

[2:00:12] change, if the rainfall is increasing at this exponential rate, then the standards we put

[2:00:18] in place today will no longer be effective in five years. >> Well, exactly. That's why

[2:00:22] there's a calculation done now. The new norm is 120 150mm rain. Right. So we have to start

[2:00:28] working with those new norms now. Right. >> But if you continue the rate

[2:00:31] of change by next year, we could be looking at 300mm of rain in an hour. What I'm

[2:00:36] saying is we can't rely on a retention basin under an apartment building. We have to

[2:00:40] improve the existing infrastructure. I understand that that process can take 5 to

[2:00:45] 10 years to redo all of the storm drains in Pointe Claire, and there's.

[2:00:52] >> Lots of measurements we can take. I'll just give you an example. And you know, right

[2:00:56] now everybody's sump pump goes into a storm drain. So your house is flooding or you've got

[2:01:01] lots of water. Your sump pump is pumping your two sump pumps where it is going into the

[2:01:05] storm drains. Right? >> Well, it's not going in because there's a river going

[2:01:09] down Broadway. >> Right. So but if we could, if we could eliminate, you know,

[2:01:12] if you were now no longer the pump, your sump pumps into the storm drain would just to go

[2:01:17] out onto your lawn into a rain garden or something to slow down the water going into the

[2:01:22] storm drain. It might alleviate some of the water in the pipes. It would carry more water.

[2:01:28] These are little things we're looking at. I don't have all the answers, but these are all

[2:01:32] things that have to be looked at, right? >> So I think along the same

[2:01:36] process, if, if, if we're doing everything that we can as private residents to pump water

[2:01:40] out of our basement, that's coming in from the city's infrastructure that's been

[2:01:46] overwhelmed. Yeah. Then likewise, could we consider putting a pumping station

[2:01:53] somewhere along the line so that this water can get out of the storm drains, so that we

[2:01:58] can then pump into them? Because the problem is we can't pump into them. And unless

[2:02:03] you're home and you flick the diverter switch and send that water out into your backyard,

[2:02:07] which I don't think we really want, especially if it's a mix of sewage and fresh water. We

[2:02:12] don't want people pumping water just everywhere onto their properties or their neighbors.

[2:02:17] Right? So how can we evacuate these systems more effectively to allow us to pump it into the

[2:02:24] appropriate? >> That's all the things we're looking at. That's all the

[2:02:27] stuff we're looking at. >> So this comes back to my communication. I think that

[2:02:31] tonight you would have fewer people present and you would have. Emotions that were more

[2:02:37] under control and a more civil debate. Perhaps if the communication was improved.

[2:02:45] This is the plan, not an idea. And we hear you and my basement flooded too. But what is the

[2:02:50] actionable item that's following this? >> Well, so we have we have a

[2:02:55] plan in place which. >> Is going to be revealed tomorrow. We have the site

[2:02:59] coming out tomorrow. >> Tomorrow. >> So we we're mediating

[2:03:03] everything. Okay. Because of. >> I'm sorry, you have a what coming.

[2:03:06] >> Up tomorrow, a communique coming out explaining to >> People what we're going to

[2:03:09] be doing moving forward, some of the procedures we're taking place, there'll be a website

[2:03:13] keeping everybody up to date that we've developed. Unfortunately, it's starting

[2:03:16] tomorrow. We didn't expect the rain on the 20th of June. We were going along getting

[2:03:22] everything done. So everything this rain on June 20th didn't help us get to our finish line.

[2:03:28] So but it's coming out tomorrow and all the stuff we're doing the program tonight that we're

[2:03:33] advancing the money, the people that was supposed to only come out in the fall, we expect to

[2:03:38] get it to happen as of tomorrow. So yes, we're doing and we and I don't disagree. We have to

[2:03:43] communicate better. And we're trying to get there with this site. So we're starting

[2:03:46] tomorrow and there'll be a continuous update to what's going on and what to do and

[2:03:51] what's happening. And yeah, so that's. >> Thank you. I'm glad to hear

[2:03:55] that there's something coming forward. The rains have been happening for two years. So I

[2:03:58] don't think this is a last month June 20th issue. I mean it's the third time I've

[2:04:03] flooded in two years, you know. So but I'm pleased that the communication is going to be

[2:04:07] improved. I hope you're hearing us that the citizens are extremely frustrated, not with

[2:04:12] our homes, not with what we've done. We've taken all appropriate measures, but the

[2:04:18] aqueducts, the storm drains can no longer handle this capacity. And and we need a we need a

[2:04:25] stopgap measure. We need a temporary solution, an actionable solution. Now.

[2:04:30] >> Well, we've done and, you know, again, I'm going. >> To.

[2:04:33] >> I'm hearing I've heard everybody in this room and I and I don't think there's been

[2:04:38] any bad debate here. I think it's been all great questions and great conversation because

[2:04:42] I think we've learned a lot. We've heard a lot of great stuff. Okay. And I'm not

[2:04:46] defending the city, but we can't be. We're not the only player. We all have to work

[2:04:51] together. It's all new to us too. This is all new to us. Okay, three years and three

[2:04:56] years ago, we didn't live any of this. In three years, our lives have changed and you know

[2:05:00] it's changed for you. One household. It's changed for us, for the whole city. And it's

[2:05:04] the tough thing to deal with. And, you know, I mean, there's lots of it's huge. And we got

[2:05:10] elected here in November. We have made it a priority. And I'm going to tell you again, we

[2:05:15] have done more than any municipality that has done well. >> I look forward to hearing

[2:05:19] about that. In your communication, I'd like to know what actionable steps have been

[2:05:22] done, not just reassuring words. >> You'll see it in some of the stuff that the project has

[2:05:27] already taken place. You'll see it in the budget, the money we're spending. We're spending

[2:05:31] $2 million on Sedgefield building that that sponge park, that berm that we just built,

[2:05:35] Ivanhoe Crescent being redone with ditches instead of pipes, all kinds of stuff. It's all

[2:05:39] happening now as we speak. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Fullerton. Hi.

[2:05:45] How are you? We know each other. I just want to touch one statement. Is that the citizens

[2:05:50] done everything they can. I think they are doing everything they can. But of all the

[2:05:54] citizens that I've seen, I would say 50, 60% of them aren't really doing the right

[2:06:02] things to address this. And that's part of the communication. And that's why

[2:06:05] that eco habitat will come to your home, you know, to address the issues. And that that's

[2:06:11] from me going to my citizens and seeing that, you know, I installed a French drain. Well,

[2:06:15] French drains are useless under these circumstances. There's there's, there's other

[2:06:20] mitigation issues that that need to be done. And that's part of the communication

[2:06:23] process that that the mayor and the administration is working so hard on. We got to get that

[2:06:28] message out there and it's coming. It's coming. But we we are like, I, I got flooded

[2:06:34] again because I was up north. But my point being is that there's a lot of things that we

[2:06:41] have to communicate, what can be done to address these issues, because it's a bit more complex

[2:06:46] and every home has their particular issue. >> Yeah. You're saying this

[2:06:51] consultation, the the firm will come to each individual home on a request basis.

[2:06:55] >> Yeah. You make it, you fill out a request. And I mean they're going to be overwhelmed,

[2:06:59] obviously probably, but they'll come to your house and they'll evaluate your home and give you

[2:07:03] a report on what you should be doing to make your house more water resilient.

[2:07:08] >> Okay. >> There was maybe confusion that they were coming to help

[2:07:11] the city, but no, they're coming to help individual homes to be more resilient

[2:07:17] individually. That's the the program that we're trying to set forward.

[2:07:21] >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you for your time. >> Okay.

[2:07:45] >> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> I'm from district seven.

[2:07:48] Okay. >> Your name is Kim. Kim. >> So I've been living in the

[2:07:55] same area for about 27 years. And I've had two floods over the last couple of years. Like

[2:08:00] many of the residents from the area. However, in my area, Vanguard Hymas Winthrop have

[2:08:07] been redone. Doesn't seem to have helped us. Is there going to be an assessment to find.

[2:08:14] >> Out if we've already started a process to look at Hymans Boulevard?

[2:08:19] >> And when do we think that this process may come to an end and we'll know what's going on

[2:08:24] with it? >> We I can't tell you we asked for it last week. And how long

[2:08:28] will it take? >> Several months. >> Several months, several

[2:08:31] months. >> Because it's the second flood since Hymas has been

[2:08:34] redone. >> Yeah. No, and that's why we asked for an evaluation of

[2:08:37] what's going on there, because it's all new state of the art latest. What's going on?

[2:08:41] >> We didn't think of that after the first flood. >> Sorry.

[2:08:44] >> We didn't think of that after the first flood. >> Well, it was a little bit

[2:08:48] different. This one was a little bit this one here was different. From what I

[2:08:52] understand, this was a lot worse than the first one on Hymas. So there's something

[2:08:57] that I wasn't there after the first one, but I was there after this one. And we mandated

[2:09:04] this caucus council mandated an intervention on him to find out what's going on.

[2:09:09] >> Okay. Well, Winthrop be looked at as well. >> Well, it's all part of it

[2:09:13] all. Yeah, it's all part of the same. Like, you guys got hit completely different this time

[2:09:17] than last time. He has to have the microburst was right over in that area and everything

[2:09:22] else. But that's why it was so important to have these these conversations tonight was to

[2:09:27] understand a we we thought we had figured it out up until June because we had five areas

[2:09:33] we were looking at. Now we got a whole other area. That's some new areas to look at, new

[2:09:37] situations to look at. So we're going to yes, we're moving forward. Looking at your area

[2:09:41] and listening to what you guys have and taking it all down and building that on it.

[2:09:46] >> And will the public be able to see what you found out? >> Absolutely. And we've

[2:09:50] already held three meetings. On December 15th, we had a meeting here. People came, we showed

[2:09:54] them everything we'd done, all the pipes. We checked where we thought their problems were.

[2:09:58] Then we did another. We did another intervention in when was it?

[2:10:03] >> It was in May. >> In May, with more stuff we learned and stuff that you

[2:10:08] could do on your house. And we had people come and talk to you and we're trying to. Yeah,

[2:10:12] we're trying to communicate the best we can. >> Very well.

[2:10:15] >> Thank you, thank you. >> Brant Cowan. >> Good evening. I have a

[2:10:29] question. I was wanting to know what had been done with the respect to the flooding, with

[2:10:34] the in the emergency plan. So I, you know, was on the the emergency planning committee

[2:10:39] before. So I knew I knew I am familiar with the emergency plan as it stood a couple of

[2:10:45] years ago. So I was wondering what had been done since to incorporate a response to

[2:10:50] flooding and other kinds of natural disasters that we we can predict, such as heat. We

[2:10:56] have. We've responded to when there's heat waves or power outages, that sort of thing. So

[2:11:00] I got a copy of the most recent emergency plan, and I was kind of surprised that so much of it

[2:11:08] was redacted. It's not we're not we don't have the plan for World War three. We're not

[2:11:12] going to get invaded. I don't think there's much that really should be secret. Held

[2:11:16] confidential in emergency plan. I put it to you that it's not a good idea to wait until an

[2:11:21] emergency before you release this information. But anyway, what I did see, there is no

[2:11:27] annex in the plan dealing with emergency flooding and or any of the other any other kinds of

[2:11:33] emergency situations that might come up. What what the plan does have, it's basically a

[2:11:39] telephone directory and the telephone numbers are redacted. And the offices, some of the

[2:11:43] offices are redacted, but it doesn't. There is you know, I see the table of contents.

[2:11:49] There is no provision yet for any of these kinds of emergencies. I think it might

[2:11:53] be a good idea to look into that one and two. The this plan is is cascades down from the

[2:12:01] agglomeration. The agglomeration indicates that it's quite willing to help. I'm

[2:12:05] so first question, I guess, is have we asked them for any help? >> So on that note, I sit on

[2:12:13] the Public Security Commission and we've already had a meeting concerning that already. We met

[2:12:17] with the SIM and all the players for especially after the flooding of last year. We

[2:12:24] we've had a lot of discussions about what they've learned, how they're. They've changed their

[2:12:29] operating procedures. They were surprised, like, for instance, a Montreal. When there's a fire,

[2:12:35] you can see the smoke coming out. You know, many places are caught on fire. They were

[2:12:39] telling us they were completely overwhelmed when they realized. They did not realize how many

[2:12:43] houses got flooded, because it took 2 or 3 days for the people to start putting their stuff

[2:12:48] out, because the water went in their basements and they didn't know that the houses were

[2:12:52] flooded until. So it was, you know, we've learned a lot and we're still discussing the best

[2:12:56] operating, how we're going to get the message out to citizens sooner. I think Pointe-Claire

[2:13:01] right now, we're talking about even us ourselves inside internally, we're talking about

[2:13:06] different operating procedures for Emergency Measures Act to have a plan to start days

[2:13:12] before when we know what's coming. And I mean you, you have something you can add to

[2:13:18] that. Jill. It's work in progress right now for flooding and everything, right?

[2:13:22] >> Yeah. That's correct. And complement to the meetings that you're having. Essentially,

[2:13:26] we're taking that information to develop that plan more thoroughly on our side.

[2:13:32] >> Well, they were supposed to I arranged two years ago for a year and a half ago, two years

[2:13:38] ago, for a fellow who had expertise in emergency planning to help with help the city with

[2:13:42] risk assessment. And I don't know if there's been any progress in that, but that was

[2:13:47] set up about a year and a half ago. But there's nothing in the emergency plan to reflect that

[2:13:52] unless it was part of the A sections that were many sections that were redacted.

[2:13:56] But I have a good idea of what was redacted because I know the the the plan as it stood two

[2:14:01] years ago because I saw it. So I don't think there's anything in the redaction that has

[2:14:05] that's been redacted that has anything to do with risk assessment and or, and you

[2:14:12] didn't actually answer the question whether we've asked the agglomeration, I take it we

[2:14:15] haven't for this. For what? For whatever support that they they said they would support.

[2:14:20] >> They're working. We're working with them. I mean, we have meetings about this.

[2:14:24] >> Okay. Well, then let's. >> We're we're we're updating. We're starting to look at

[2:14:31] different procedures. We had an emergency. You were here for eight years, Mr. Kaplan. Right.

[2:14:35] And I think you said on emergency measures. >> Yeah, that's what.

[2:14:38] >> I'm telling you. So I know. So you were there for eight years. You said, you know how

[2:14:43] it works now. The realities have changed. Flooding has become a new priority in the

[2:14:47] last two years, year and a half. We had one flood three years ago. It kind of went okay. It

[2:14:52] happened. Now it's become a new reality. So now we are in the process and Jill is the new

[2:14:57] director general for since what, three months now? And we've asked him to sit down with the

[2:15:01] emergency measures team and start looking at all these things. Now, it's a new reality.

[2:15:05] And to to implement new procedures. So it's all in the works.

[2:15:10] >> I recognize that the emergency plan is was at least been around for at least the

[2:15:16] agglomeration plan for at least three years. And what we have done up to now appears that we

[2:15:21] fill in some blanks, but we haven't actually come up with any plan.

[2:15:25] >> We're coming up with. I'm trying to explain to you. Mr. I get it working on it, but you

[2:15:30] don't want to listen. We are working on coming up with a new plan, with new procedures for

[2:15:34] the new realities. I get you. >> I'm trying to get I'm trying to get you to give me a.

[2:15:39] >> You're trying to you're trying to. I know what. >> You're trying.

[2:15:42] >> To do, but I'm not. I'm not getting a debate with you. So what's your next question?

[2:15:47] >> I'm just trying to ask one question. When you'll have a plan, I.

[2:15:50] >> I'll let you know. I can't I don't have the answer tonight. >> Okay.

[2:15:54] >> I don't have the answer tonight. Thank you. I'm working on it. Thank you.

[2:15:58] >> Lauren. Pauline. Yes. >> Good evening. Lauren. Pauline 131 Alston district

[2:16:08] four. Like many of the people here tonight, we were hit with the flood in August of 2024.

[2:16:17] Quite devastatingly, in June of this year, not so much, but we still received two inches of

[2:16:26] water in our basement, which was in the process of still being renovated from the

[2:16:34] previous flood. This is a piece of my molding, which I put caulking on on Saturday

[2:16:40] afternoon. It was torn up on Sunday afternoon. Now there's been some talk about

[2:16:47] development over development, whether that's leading to some of these these issues. On

[2:16:54] Alston. Of course, we're very close to the large amounts of development that have gone on

[2:16:58] on Hymas. That water all comes down. Alston. It flows down Alston and stays in the middle

[2:17:05] of Alston. When we have rainfall of this type after our 2020 flood, we took measures to

[2:17:14] protect our house. We had two sump pumps, new backflow valve. There's nowhere for the water

[2:17:21] to go now. That's no different from anybody else here, but there is a difference with our

[2:17:28] situation in. Behind my property is the South Greenwich development. The townhouses

[2:17:37] there were built on a wetlands mayor Belvedere. You'll remember this issue very well

[2:17:43] from your first term. >> Very well. Absolutely. >> Townhouses pump groundwater

[2:17:49] from the wetlands that they're built upon into an open ditch bordering on our property. In

[2:17:59] July 2019, we had a meeting in this room yourself, Councilor Webb, Marc-Andre Roy from and

[2:18:05] all the residents on all, we raised concerns about that design. They were dismissed by.

[2:18:15] Marc-Andre Waugh waived a permit in our faces. They committed to follow up meetings

[2:18:22] on all of the concerns, including drainage. Those were ignored. That meeting was held,

[2:18:30] in our opinion, to appease the city with no intent on taking any actions.

[2:18:37] >> If you do remember. One thing that came out of that, it was more than just the flooding

[2:18:45] that you guys were dealing with. We're dealing with all kinds of inefficiencies in the work that

[2:18:50] hadn't been finished, and we held back one of his permits in order to get the work done,

[2:18:54] which a lot of us I'm not talking about the drainage, but a lot of the other stuff got

[2:18:59] done because we wouldn't issue permits. So we did take a stance, and he sat in this

[2:19:03] office for a day waiting for his permits, and we refused to give him his permit until. So

[2:19:08] we did take. >> Many of our other issues from that meeting were not

[2:19:11] addressed, including work on weekends starting at 5 a.m. work on weekdays going past the

[2:19:18] limit, cement trucks starting at 5:06 a.m. on a Saturday. They didn't care. So you can

[2:19:26] you can mention that on May 22nd of this year, I sent an email to yourself and Councilor

[2:19:33] Swidsinski about unusual water accumulation in that ditch. It has become a stagnant swamp.

[2:19:42] There are bulrushes, algae, and it's a fairly slow trickle for a drain. It's attracting

[2:19:50] mosquitoes. It's breeding mosquitoes, following up with public works today, the city

[2:19:57] has no idea where that drain is draining to, and they cannot trace to whether it's draining

[2:20:05] into the into the forest or elsewhere. They say it's on private property. They have no

[2:20:11] plans for that. Now, that ditch that we warned about in 2019 and again this year, four weeks

[2:20:22] before the flood, as it stopped draining on June 20th, it was very close to cresting and

[2:20:29] coming over the banks into our property. My property at that was bordering that ditch was a

[2:20:36] lake. As many other people, other residents had lakes as well. But I had a source here

[2:20:42] of water in a nonfunctioning drainage ditch. A resident of the Greenwich townhouses had

[2:20:50] two gas powered pumps trying to pump out that ditch and pumping it into the forest. They were

[2:20:57] at risk too, and they were putting our properties at risk. Now the. The information that

[2:21:10] we received from the city back in 2019 2020, these are quotes from public works and from our

[2:21:18] councilor at the time. The rain water should be drained by gravity to the side. Captor.

[2:21:25] The ditch has been done in accordance with the plans approved on permit. What was

[2:21:31] done was accepted as part of the Sustainable Development Plan for this project.

[2:21:36] >> I just I don't want to be rude, but your time is up and you can give you another 1015

[2:21:42] seconds. >> I'm closing my book. >> Okay, good.

[2:21:44] >> Okay. >> Just because I want everybody else to have a chance.

[2:21:47] That's all. >> I understand that. What does the city plan to do to take

[2:21:52] care of the threat that is behind my house and what's in front of my house, the street,

[2:21:58] the drainage that is causing flooding issues. >> We had. I can't tell you

[2:22:03] what we're going to do, but we did talk about it tonight. Again, it's a complicated issue

[2:22:08] because the ditch is on private property, and I know when I can only go back to 2019, when I

[2:22:14] was here and we went on that property to check out the ditch, I was removed from the property

[2:22:19] because it was on private property. So we have to look at what we're up against. We're

[2:22:23] going to look at we'll take your information. You just told us what public Works told you.

[2:22:28] I'd like to see what they actually said. And maybe you have a copy of that letter they

[2:22:33] told you, or that information. >> With Samuel from Public Works.

[2:22:36] >> So we got that. We'll talk to Samuel and we'll. Mr. Straczynski, you're well

[2:22:41] represented. He asked us every week, every time we see him, what we're doing. And we're

[2:22:45] we're taking a look at it. >> Okay. And I'd like to thank Mr. Swidsinski for his support

[2:22:51] both before, during and after the flood incident, and I hope everybody will recover from

[2:22:57] this as well as we can. But we need the help from the city in order to do that. Thank you,

[2:23:03] thank you. >> Stephanie. Jolene. >> Good evening. My name is

[2:23:16] Stephanie. I'm at 53 Potter in the Valois district. So district three. You won't be

[2:23:22] surprised, of course, that I too was the victim of flooding this past year, along with two

[2:23:26] of my neighbors who are here downstairs. Also flooded two years ago again had not flooded

[2:23:32] in 50 years. I would add though, and my goal right now is not to complain, but that we have had

[2:23:39] our flooding, or at least the street flooding every year for 15 years. The moment we have

[2:23:44] heavy rains, they didn't reach to the level of our houses. I'm on an incline I don't have. I'm

[2:23:48] not going in the opposite direction. So in fact, not at risk of flooding mostly. But

[2:23:53] we've still had this problem for two years in a row. That being said, I've had the

[2:23:57] benefit of hearing so many of my fellow citizens speak this evening. And as to you as well,

[2:24:02] Mr. Mayor, particular speaking, and what's clear, I think from what I've heard from the

[2:24:08] citizens, yes, we have a problem. It's heartbreaking. Some of the stories we've heard

[2:24:13] this evening, worse than I am. Hearts out to many of the people have spoken earlier this

[2:24:17] evening. But the reality is, is there's a lot of competing priorities that you're going to

[2:24:23] be dealt with. You've alluded to some of them this evening. Our street, of course, from my

[2:24:28] perspective selfishly is a priority. But so is the Belmar with the Del Mar we heard this

[2:24:32] evening. There's also limited funds. Let's be honest, there are limited funds, limited

[2:24:38] budget. You you alluded to the prioritization process that has to be done. You've consulted

[2:24:43] with people. You have consultants coming in. I have two questions. The first

[2:24:47] question is what criteria is the council are you collectively going to be

[2:24:52] looking at when it comes to actually prioritizing how you will allocate major funds for

[2:24:58] infrastructure projects? Because obviously there will be competing projects cleaning

[2:25:02] here, redoing infrastructure there. So how do you what criteria will you be applying

[2:25:09] to prioritize where funds are allocated? When you get all these consultation reports in?

[2:25:15] And number two, when and how as residents, will we be able to access the results of the

[2:25:24] fruits of this analysis so that we can see in a transparent manner how you prioritize these

[2:25:30] projects, in what order? And I mean, just to be clear, because my question is clear, it's not

[2:25:34] just knowing that you're doing A and B and C in that order, but why A and not F and why B

[2:25:42] and not D? I think there's that's owed to the residents in the circumstances given, as you

[2:25:50] mentioned, the new reality we're facing with which is hitting some residents harder

[2:25:55] than others. There's clearly patterns developing within the city. So those are my two

[2:25:59] questions for you. >> So I mean great questions. And it's going to be a tough

[2:26:03] one to answer clearly because a little while ago, like I said, we had maybe five priorities,

[2:26:07] which we could deal with over a couple of years. But now there's more, now there's more.

[2:26:11] They're going to obviously come as of this week, some of the stuff that we looked at, like

[2:26:17] sandalwood that got prioritized because it's been that's been flooding for not only recently,

[2:26:24] but for many, many years prior to three years ago, because of the runoff of terracotta. And,

[2:26:30] and they've had issues for years and years and years and years. And that's one reason

[2:26:35] that got prioritized, prioritized. Sometimes it's the infrastructure under the ground

[2:26:41] that will create the priority. If we change this piece of pipe here, it's going to help over

[2:26:45] there and help over there, or this is what we can afford to do. And it's going to there's

[2:26:50] many, many criteria. Obviously, it's number of times of flood severity budgets, the, the, the

[2:26:57] amount of work, is it changing 100m of pipe or changing three kilometers of pipe? There's all

[2:27:01] kinds of things that we have to look at. So there's no clear. I can't tell you. We have to look

[2:27:07] at every project and we're starting to look at them more and more in more detail. And

[2:27:11] then we're going to make a list, and that's going to the capital expenditure budget. And then we

[2:27:15] only have so much money. And we have to, you know, we have other things we have to do too.

[2:27:20] We still have to pay the bills and we still have to, you know, so we have to try to fit it in

[2:27:26] to all that. And that's when, if you've been here all night, we've had many, many meetings

[2:27:30] around capital expenditure, budget and reallocating money and increasing and cutting out

[2:27:33] projects to prioritize water, water retention plans, programs. So yeah, I don't have a I can't

[2:27:37] give you an exact answer about what it is or criteria because not a, B, C there's multiple

[2:27:42] things that go into it. >> But but will we see though, the fruits of that analysis

[2:27:46] when it comes time to applying the criteria and you've landed at result A, B, and C in that

[2:27:51] order of priority, will there be transparency from the city with respect to what criteria

[2:27:56] apply and what weight there's. >> I don't think I don't the criteria. There's nothing to

[2:27:59] hide. We got nothing to hide. I mean, like I told you, there's budgets, there's the size of

[2:28:04] the job, there's all kinds of things. But yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've had, we've had

[2:28:08] three meetings to try to keep the people up to par about what's going on since November

[2:28:12] with the flooding. And you'll see the capital expenditures, and you'll see every year that

[2:28:16] comes out and there's a list of all the projects and you can ask questions. Why did that

[2:28:20] project get. But we present the capital expenditures to the public. And you can come and

[2:28:24] ask questions about it for sure. Absolutely. Thank you, thank you.

[2:28:31] >> Marianne. Not. >> Go to the next okay. >> No.

[2:29:06] >> Well, maybe that'd be a good idea. >> Okay. Madam. No. Okay. No.

[2:29:41] Okay. Merci. A Michelle nurse or Michael nurse. Oh, perfect. No.

[2:29:58] >> Hello, everybody. So I'm Claudine, and I'm 251 Saint Louis Avenue. Again, I'm not

[2:30:04] going to repeat what everybody's saying. I think we're all on the same page. Our

[2:30:08] house is built in 86. It's been standing for over 40 years. And since 2024 we've been there for

[2:30:13] 21 years. But we know that the previous owner and we know we've never had issues with the

[2:30:18] house, we actually had a French drain and never really knew what it was technically for

[2:30:22] when we bought the house, because we've never had flooding issues or need to know

[2:30:27] what it was for because we never saw any water accumulation. Fast forward. We

[2:30:31] had the three floods in 22 months. We did what the city told us to do. We went to the

[2:30:38] meetings that explained to us what we had to do in order to protect our homes. So we went

[2:30:43] to those meetings and we hired experts, and we had the French trained inspected to make sure

[2:30:50] it was okay. We had the backflow valve changed, make sure that that was in defective.

[2:30:56] We had not one, but two sump pumps installed in the garage and next to the backflow valve

[2:31:01] with additional backup pumps in case there was no power. So after that second flood, we

[2:31:07] thought we were foolproof and did not expect this to be happening yet a third time. Now

[2:31:13] I was up north as well when this happened. Luckily, my husband was home and after

[2:31:18] watching the cameras for about an hour, started realizing that hell was breaking again and

[2:31:23] everything was flooded. So the street completely flooded again. Yet again. And we are. Because

[2:31:29] we do have a sloped driveway. The water comes down from Delmar, it piles up and once it

[2:31:35] reaches my driveway, stops right there. So I saved the other houses. However, mine

[2:31:40] gets hit and we did do the construction three times. Well, this would be the third time

[2:31:45] that we've started. So my question is because I understand that you guys can't

[2:31:49] do everything at once. And there's clearly a lot of issues to be dealt with. I want to

[2:31:53] know the Delmore, the Delmore work that has been done, that was done, started in 2023 and

[2:32:00] 2024, from my understanding, from the 42 day, Cano does coincide with a lot of problems

[2:32:05] that we are having on Saint Louis. And my understanding from tonight's meeting, Del Mar

[2:32:09] as well, and I want to know if the city has done basically an investigation to, you know,

[2:32:15] like an engineering review, hydrological analysis and post-construction assessment to

[2:32:20] see if there's a to determine basically this correlation between what we're experiencing

[2:32:25] now all of a sudden and this work that was done, if yes, we want to know what the findings

[2:32:30] are. And if not, I would like to know if the city can commit to conducting such an

[2:32:35] investigation and provide a timeline within the next 12 months so that we can

[2:32:38] understand where this water is from. Because here I don't want to assign blame, but I need to

[2:32:43] figure out because I can't build my basement yet again with no more insurance, knowing

[2:32:47] that I'm going to have to rip it off two two months after I'm done again and my family lives

[2:32:52] down there. We need that space. >> So I can just tell you, first of all, we have not done

[2:32:58] a study since the work has been done on Delmar because it's a new street. And I mean, it's

[2:33:03] there shouldn't have been a problem. Right? Can we do a hydraulic study and all this

[2:33:08] stuff that we're doing on many streets where there's issues right now, we are doing them. I

[2:33:12] don't know if Delmar is on that list. It's something we'll have to look at down the road. But

[2:33:18] can we get back to you on that and give you an answer? I don't know if it's on the list, if

[2:33:23] it's going to get put on the list. If we if there's something we can look at,

[2:33:27] Mister or we're looking at. >> Yeah, I'll have to get back to her. I'll have to get the

[2:33:32] list. >> But we'll get back to you. Give us a couple days, we'll

[2:33:36] talk to engineering and we'll get back to you for sure. >> Okay. And my follow up

[2:33:40] question would be that in the meantime, since we can't fix this overnight and we do need

[2:33:44] to do repairs so that we can gain our home back and have somewhat of a safety. Kansas

[2:33:49] City not put some kind of a temporary measure, whether it's pumping the water out of the

[2:33:53] the street on Saint Louis and Delmar. There's a soccer park there. There's a little

[2:33:57] roundabout on Saint Louis. There's some green spaces that are there that are available.

[2:34:00] And I'm sure that putting that water into some of those lands, even my land, I wouldn't mind

[2:34:05] if it went on my grass because my grass stays dry, my backyard is dry, the whole street on my

[2:34:10] left and my neighbor behind is dry, and even the pumps are pumping out to the back. But

[2:34:14] the water is is emptying. The whole street is emptying into my house. I had two feet of

[2:34:19] water this time. Despite the two sump pumps, despite the French drain, despite the new

[2:34:22] backflow valve, I can't lift my house of 20ft in the air. There's no more options. So

[2:34:27] I've done my part. I understand that you guys are doing all the research, but there's a problem

[2:34:31] there specifically, like a lot of areas. And in the meantime, until this is resolved, having

[2:34:35] some kind of a temporary measures, even if it's these these walls that they deploy,

[2:34:39] you know, these inflatable walls that can protect the driveways to kind of create a

[2:34:43] channel or pumping the water on these green spaces, but have someone because right now we

[2:34:47] even have people just driving by. Nobody blocks the street. We have to put our own cars

[2:34:51] there to block the street because people are driving by and all you see is those

[2:34:55] beautiful waves coming into our house. People might not understand what's going on, and

[2:34:58] they're not realizing they're trying to get home to their own house. But in the end, we're

[2:35:03] paying the price for it. So we need an emergency plan in place to block the street, to pump

[2:35:07] the water out on grasses, on that green space, or on the soccer park, wherever it is, to

[2:35:12] at least diminish the amount of water that comes in so that the pumps that we put in and that

[2:35:17] we spend that much money installing to save our home, can actually have time to pump

[2:35:21] it out instead of having this rush of like, flash flooding coming in.

[2:35:24] >> So I'm going to go back to will give us a couple of days. We'll get back to you with the.

[2:35:30] >> For the Donmar. >> Yeah, for Delmar and I mean, it came up a lot tonight. So

[2:35:34] it's interesting. >> Clearly it's an issue. >> For a lot of people there.

[2:35:38] So so you're not the only one. We've heard some great stories, great stories, but some

[2:35:42] informative stories. So let's we'll get back to you. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

[2:35:45] >> Stephen Suey. >> Good evening. I have two properties in. But I think it's

[2:36:03] district seven and Canal Street. So both are flooded in 2024 and 21. Flooded 2025 and 2026. Both

[2:36:15] are flooded again. When was the power? When power is blacked out completely. So I don't

[2:36:24] think the sump pump is one of the reasons. Pump up the water completely from the basement.

[2:36:31] But. Capacity of the of the storm drainage that's caused the problem. So I heard a lot

[2:36:43] of stories there before and listen, lots of solutions. City proposed. I just want to say we

[2:36:51] want to work together. So for sure. So long story short. So for, for for for consultation,

[2:36:59] household by household. That's a good idea. So just want to know if city have any

[2:37:07] measurement for subsidized subsidized, any improvement on, on, on the project we're going

[2:37:14] to do going to further down because we, every time we're, we're being damaged, we

[2:37:22] insurance asking for improvement or proof of a renovation we completed every

[2:37:30] time. So that's the third time we have to do. Should we do. Because lots of my homeowners.

[2:37:37] It's already refused by the insurance company to cover the basement. We don't want that

[2:37:43] situation come to us. You know, that's a that's that's too terrible. So we just want to

[2:37:51] see city do your part. Engineering department, you know, get looking into it

[2:37:58] because it seems a very bad thing for the past two, three years.

[2:38:04] >> So we're looking into all that. Exactly what you said. But we also asked about

[2:38:10] financial assistance. 5.2 on the agenda. Yeah. As of tomorrow morning, you'll be

[2:38:15] able to request for it. Yeah, up to $5,000 or 50% of your project. If you have to do

[2:38:23] stuff to your house, like a backflow valve, like a backflow valve. Spring water garden,

[2:38:33] French drain, all anything that would help retain water from going into your house. You can

[2:38:38] apply for financial assistance as of tomorrow morning. >> Okay.

[2:38:42] >> That's great. That's only five up to $5,000. >> Yeah. Up to okay.

[2:38:46] >> So sorry. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So obviously on Dennis and you know, I know exactly

[2:38:52] where you are. Just reach out to me. I'll come to your home. I'll give you a non

[2:38:56] professional opinion. I'm pretty well versed on what's going on. I'll explain to you

[2:39:00] and your neighbors. >> Yeah, we, we. >> Reach out to me and I'll be

[2:39:04] more than happy to. >> Do that. Okay? Okay. So because we already midnight, we

[2:39:07] tried to borrow a generator to pump up the water in the midnight because all all street

[2:39:14] independent is blacked out completely, you know? >> So can you dig it up? Like

[2:39:19] meet him after or whatever then so we can get. >> Yeah, hopefully, hopefully

[2:39:23] we can, we can find a solution eventually solve it completely because we don't want the

[2:39:27] insurance company to come back to say we reject, refuse you. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

[2:39:34] thank you. >> Elizabeth. Mario. >> Mr. Tang, is there anybody

[2:39:44] else downstairs? There are more people downstairs. >> Well, most of them. We've

[2:39:48] asked them if they have questions to come up. >> Okay, madam.

[2:39:52] >> Elizabeth. Amarillo. Okay. Hans. Volstad. >> All right. Hi. Good evening.

[2:40:10] You called me an hour 34 minutes ago. I guess this is my my second chance. Do I get more

[2:40:14] time or. I'm still three minutes. >> Three minutes.

[2:40:17] >> Everybody else. All right. Okay, so I'm going to, I guess I've been coming here for about

[2:40:21] a year now, trying to find out what is guiding you in your decisions and in terms of where

[2:40:26] you're spending money, how you're going to how you're going to fix things. There's

[2:40:30] been previous mayor was saying with, with green infrastructure was going to fix everything.

[2:40:35] That was a no brainer, he said. So yeah. And then along the way to ask, okay, when you decided

[2:40:41] to do the, the Belmont Sponge Park, we asked for what kind of benefits were going to come

[2:40:48] from that. And I guess you, you responded that the benefits would be a good it would be

[2:40:53] better. So, so not not really a very strong number there, but okay, all of that going back a

[2:40:59] year, you said we're going to be guided by a report from the ETS. I asked about that a

[2:41:06] couple of months ago. I thought it was due in January. Now I was told it's due in June. So

[2:41:11] have we received that guiding report from the ETS? >> First of all, Mr. Halstead,

[2:41:16] I'd just like to explain that I think since November, since I got in this seat, I think we've

[2:41:21] met maybe three times in the office. Twice. Twice, twice with engineering, with the City

[2:41:27] Council director general. And we've answered and we've been and analyzed all.

[2:41:31] >> We never I never asked that question the last time we met or the time.

[2:41:35] >> Before that. In general, we've met, we've had lots of conversations about this. So

[2:41:39] you made some statements about Belmont and Sandalwood and the park. Well, I mean, we agree or

[2:41:44] not agree, the berm worked the other day, so it stopped a lot of houses from flooding that

[2:41:49] berm the other day on terrace. >> Yeah. It worked well, apparently I've seen pictures

[2:41:53] from it. Thank you. And it held back. >> As far as the study goes. I

[2:41:57] don't know if we got it yet. >> Nope. Not yet. >> We haven't got it yet.

[2:42:01] >> Are you asking about when you will receive it? >> It it's this this summer

[2:42:06] we're gonna. >> It would be this summer. >> So this summer, not June.

[2:42:09] Okay. All right. So no date. Thank you. Okay. Second question then. It's not really

[2:42:16] a question. I'm going to go back to Jennifer Waugh was up here second about two hours ago,

[2:42:21] I guess. And she asked about the the swales or the pits, if you like in in zone two of the

[2:42:28] the sponge park. And I guess your answer was we'll let them finish their work. Well, they

[2:42:34] are finished their work in zone two. They've taken down the fences. All the planting is

[2:42:38] done. The whole. >> Project is not finished yet. >> No, no. But the rest of the

[2:42:42] project, if you're familiar with. Okay, if you let me. >> Finish project, the whole

[2:42:46] project ties into each other. >> No it doesn't. That's independent. Her problem was

[2:42:50] she was saying there's water at the bottom of that basin that is not draining. The sponge is

[2:42:54] not sponging. All right, so the water is not going down. It's going up. Right. So she raised

[2:43:00] two points with that stagnant water and danger from deep water permanently.

[2:43:06] >> In place. >> Okay. And so I can think of three things that you could do

[2:43:11] to alleviate that. One of the things is, and only one of those things only addresses one

[2:43:18] of the problems. And that's do a fence, right? Because that does nothing for the stagnant

[2:43:23] water. You still have the, there's two other options you could have done. One of the

[2:43:28] options would have been cheap if you had actually done it. When it became obvious what the

[2:43:32] problem was, which was two and a half weeks ago, you could see that the water level, the water

[2:43:37] was not going down, it was going up. You could have done something cheap at the time.

[2:43:41] That's too late now because it's being covered up with grass and plantings and rocks,

[2:43:46] so you sort of missed it. You missed a chance. So why are you doing a fence when there are

[2:43:51] other options you could do there? >> The defenses in the plant,

[2:43:56] right. >> It's not in the plan. No, no, no, it was never there. That's

[2:44:00] a fix. >> It's a fix. >> No, the the fence is part of

[2:44:05] the project. >> Fence is part of. Okay. Was not part of the project at the

[2:44:09] time of bidding anyway. So that was added after the the tender process.

[2:44:12] >> I can't I don't know, I don't know the tender in front of me, but we were informed as

[2:44:17] a fence going there. Anyway. Another question sir. >> No, that was second question.

[2:44:20] That's good. All right. So all right. So will you get back on that? You've told me that I'm

[2:44:25] wrong. >> We're going to look at now that you've brought this up

[2:44:28] about the swales and the stagnant water, we have to take a look at it.

[2:44:32] >> I mean, would you come would you want to come by tomorrow? Do you have time to come by?

[2:44:37] I'll show you what the problem is. >> I, I have to I don't have my

[2:44:41] phone with me to check my agenda, but I can if you want to call the office tomorrow

[2:44:46] morning. I don't have my. I know my agenda with me, but I can we can I can reach out to

[2:44:51] you tomorrow, or I can wait till your counselor. >> In town. I'm very available.

[2:44:55] So you have my number and email. Yeah. >> Thank you. I will thank you.

[2:44:58] >> Demetrios beaches. No, Dimitrios. Business? No. Frank. Frank. Sombrero. No. Hou

[2:45:20] junfeng. Monsieur. Madame. Feng. >> Maybe this. >> No. Arshad. Jilani. Sorry,

[2:45:56] he did advise. No, I don't have more names. >> How many more? That's it.

[2:46:15] Okay. Well, I think we're safe to say we can go to the agenda. Oh, he is here. Okay.

[2:46:23] >> He just stepped out for a second. And we have enough. Fine. But I.

[2:46:29] >> Arrive, we arrive. Here we go. How are you, sir? >> I'm fine, thank you.

[2:47:03] >> You almost missed your time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Wrong timing.

[2:47:08] >> Okay. >> Let's go. So my questions are very quick. You said that

[2:47:15] changing the pipe from smaller diameter to the larger for the drainage takes approval, like

[2:47:25] three years. So where do we stand right now? Like countdown of.

[2:47:31] >> I didn't understand the question. Approval for. >> For changing the drainage

[2:47:37] pipe. >> Oh, okay. I was talking earlier when we wanted, for

[2:47:41] instance, there's an area that we were looking at. We wanted to enlarge the pipe. Yes.

[2:47:45] Because we. Anyway, it was going to help a situation, but we weren't allowed to because

[2:47:51] the. A lot of the water pipes are controlled by Montreal, so they have to sign off on it. It

[2:47:55] could take 18 months to two years to get the okay on that. It just goes to show you how

[2:48:00] much time some things take. Sometimes other things we can do right away. But there are

[2:48:04] certain scenarios where things take time. It's complicated. >> So when did we started the

[2:48:09] request? What date we started? >> We just we're just looking at it now.

[2:48:15] >> Looking at it. >> We're looking where we we, we we're analyzing it now. But

[2:48:19] we've been told that if we want to go that way, that's the process. Then that's how long

[2:48:23] it would take. >> Okay. So we have initiated the process. Yes. So from now,

[2:48:32] if we calculate it will be. >> But that's only I don't know. Is it one pipe in one? One

[2:48:39] street is not changing all the pipes in the city. It's one pipe on one street for a

[2:48:44] particular problem. You understand? >> Oh my God.

[2:48:49] >> That's what it is. It's this street here has a pipe. We want to enlarge a section of it to

[2:48:55] alleviate. And that is not changing all the pipes in the city. It's changing one pipe on

[2:48:59] one street. You can take that long. That's how complicated when people want us to react

[2:49:04] and do things. I'm just trying to make an example how hard it can be sometimes, how

[2:49:08] complicated it can be. >> Okay, my second question is that, as you also mentioned,

[2:49:15] that we are giving away 58% of our revenue to the city of Montreal. So do we have a

[2:49:26] transparency how they are spending, how much they are spending on which services?

[2:49:32] >> Yeah, absolutely. It's all documented. Go online. You can see where all the money goes.

[2:49:36] They know we know exactly where it's going. Are they being efficient with it? That's

[2:49:40] another story. But we know where it's going. It goes to the fire. It goes to the police.

[2:49:44] It goes to public transit. It goes to water. That's the main the four major things.

[2:49:48] >> How much amount wise. >> $106 million. 25. $28 million to police, 20 some odd

[2:49:54] million to fire. It's all documented. Don't have the numbers right in front of me.

[2:49:58] It's all there. It's all public. The problem is we don't get what we pay for. That's the

[2:50:03] biggest problem. >> Can we reduce that? We'd love to.

[2:50:06] >> We've been trying for 21 years. We've been trying. Okay, so and we're still trying today.

[2:50:10] There's a lot of stuff going on in the back rooms. We don't talk about it every day, but

[2:50:15] there's something going. We have an association and yes, we're asking. We're trying to.

[2:50:19] The new mayor of Montreal has told us she would sit down with us and understand it, which is

[2:50:23] a good thing because we never had that before. And so I'm hoping that within the next 6

[2:50:28] to 8 months, she's promised to meet with us before the new budget comes out, and hopefully

[2:50:32] we will have something that she'll understand what we're up against and kind of increase by

[2:50:36] 18 and $20 million a year. We just can't afford it anymore. >> Okay. All right. Thank you

[2:50:42] very much. >> Thank you. Good night. Okay. We can go to the agenda now,

[2:50:47] please. Thank you guys. Thank you for being so patient. >> En fonction de son

[2:51:45] utilization. Pour les besoins des municipalités de. >> District six. Thank you.

[2:52:01] >> 5.2 adoption of a bylaw establishing a financial assistance program for storm

[2:52:04] water management on private residential property. The bylaw aims to establish a financial

[2:52:09] assistance program to encourage residential property owners to implement sustainable

[2:52:12] stormwater management measures directly on the property. This program addresses the increased

[2:52:17] frequency of rainfall events linked to climate change, with a view to reducing strain on

[2:52:21] the sewage network and the risk of flooding. It targets all single and two dwelling

[2:52:26] residential properties within the city territory, commercial and industrial buildings, as

[2:52:30] well as buildings with three or more dwellings, are therefore excluded. The bylaw provides

[2:52:34] that the city may may retain the services of an external firm to carry out evaluation

[2:52:39] visits to properties in order to diagnose drainage problems and recommend the most

[2:52:43] appropriate measures. Financial assistance can cover up to 50% of the cost of eligible works,

[2:52:48] including the city's mandatory evaluation, up to a maximum of $5,000 per property over a five

[2:52:55] year period. The program covers various technical and landscaping measures, including

[2:52:58] backflow valves, roof drains, sealing of water inlets, catch basins and foundation drains,

[2:53:05] rain gardens, permeable surfaces, rainwater harvesting barrels, disconnection of

[2:53:11] gutters and correcting of ground slopes. >> Do you have a mover and

[2:53:15] seconder for 5.2, please? >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district three.

[2:53:22] >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski, district four. And if I can just speak

[2:53:27] just briefly to. I just want to say that I think this is a very good program that's been put

[2:53:32] together. I want to thank my fellow members of council, the mayor and the city manager for

[2:53:37] their work on it. But I do think it's important to stress, as we've sort of mentioned,

[2:53:42] that there should be some openness to allowing it to evolve in the future in

[2:53:47] response to the concerns that citizens bring to us. And I think in particular, after.

[2:53:53] Well, while the priorities to adopt it now, to get the money out of the door quickly, I

[2:53:58] think in the long run, we do need to look at perhaps expanding it to townhouses of

[2:54:02] the types that you have on Hymas and Greenwich or on Donegani, which may be

[2:54:06] considered multi-family under terms of the bylaw. But where I think there could be a useful

[2:54:12] way of expanding it. All right. Thank you. >> Mr. Mayor. Just just on that

[2:54:17] note, 1 to 2 unit dwellings are eligible. So the townhouses. >> Not not the condominiums of

[2:54:25] the kinds that are at Greenwich, like the 28 Union at Prima, for example. So that would be what

[2:54:30] I would be referring to. Okay. >> Thank you, thank you. All in favor, please. Thank you.

[2:54:37] >> 6.1 this is. A commercial village of Pointe-Claire. >> And 6.2 to grant financial

[2:54:47] support for a total amount of $1,000 to the Royal Canadian Legion branch, 57 Pointe Claire.

[2:54:56] >> Festival of Blues, West Island. Association. Communautaire. Alphabetization

[2:55:10] Sinemet et perspective. Communautaire unsentimental. >> And 6.4 to authorize the

[2:55:15] participation of four members of Council at the 16th edition of the golf tournament

[2:55:18] organized by the tourist de la Palliative Care Residence, to be held on August 31st, 2026.

[2:55:23] The members of council authorized by this resolution are Mayor John Belvedere, as

[2:55:27] well as councilors Kelly Thorstad Cullen, Eric Stork and Mike Potvin.

[2:55:31] >> Mover and seconder, for 6.1 to 6.4, please. >> Council district.

[2:55:37] >> Second by. >> Eric Stork, district seven. >> All in favor?

[2:55:42] >> Said. The circulation. >> And 7.2 appoint members to the Youth Advisory Board. The

[2:55:52] following new members are appointed for the period from September 1st, 2026 to August

[2:55:55] 31st, 2027. Tristan Crawford, Danielle Akinfenwa, a Lara Alderman.

[2:56:02] >> Gavin moved and seconded for 7.2, please. >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen,

[2:56:06] District 12. >> Second by. >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[2:56:10] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> This. Point six. >> And 10.2 acceptance of a

[2:56:23] donation of artwork, which is the portrait of May Beatrice Stewart and the issuance of a

[2:56:27] tax receipt. This is the portrait of May Beatrice Stewart, a work by Randolph

[2:56:31] Stanley Hutton donated by Alexandra Debater, daughter of Diana Stewart. The artwork

[2:56:36] holds significant historical heritage and cultural value in connection with Stewart Hall.

[2:56:40] An independent appraisal of the artwork was conducted to establish its fair value market,

[2:56:44] which is estimated at $25,000. >> This point represents. Des entreprises du Québec,

[2:56:55] representing Madame Julie Robinson and Monsieur Daniel Seguin du service des finances.

[2:57:01] >> For 10.2, 10.3, 10.4. >> Please know we didn't do 10.40.

[2:57:07] >> Sorry. >> Thank you. >> District six.

[2:57:12] >> Second by. >> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor? Thank you.

[2:57:19] >> 10.4 to authorize a budget amendment of $60,000 to support the implementation of a

[2:57:23] permanent public artwork at Edgewater Park, in accordance with the city's ongoing public

[2:57:27] art initiatives and project planning timelines. The installation of the artwork is

[2:57:31] scheduled for the fall of 2026. >> A mover and seconder for 10.4.

[2:57:39] >> District six. >> Mike Bloodvein, district eight.

[2:57:43] >> I'd like to speak to this one. Just I'm gonna be voting against this one. I'm not

[2:57:50] against the principle of public art, but on the same basis that earlier this year I voted

[2:58:00] against the $5.8 million that was spent on the aquatic center locker rooms, because I believe

[2:58:08] that it should have been invested in road work and flood mitigation. I'm kind of

[2:58:14] symbolically voting against this one to send the same general message that we need to

[2:58:19] think about restraint in places where we can reallocate funds to go to. I think the

[2:58:26] priorities that are that are more urgent. And I mean, why choose this one? It's a smaller

[2:58:30] amount. There's a lot of things that are small amounts as well. I think it is one that sends a

[2:58:35] message. And visually, I would just note that it essentially consists of sending. A metal

[2:58:46] pipe about seven feet into the air. That's, that's what the sculpture essentially is. And I

[2:58:51] look at that and get the impression that most people would look at it and think that

[2:58:55] we should be building more of them under the ground. So that's my reason for

[2:58:59] identifying this one specifically. Thank you. So thank you.

[2:59:03] >> Just a comment regarding the the public art. I sit on the the public Art committee, the

[2:59:08] public Art Committee spends a great amount of time working on these various projects. The

[2:59:14] establishment of the budget was made several months ago. A hearing. The comments made by

[2:59:21] Councilor Swidsinski encourages me a great deal as public art is designed to. To wake up the

[2:59:28] population, to stimulate thought and ideas and controversies. So I think it's

[2:59:33] doing its job quite effectively. And I sympathize with your symbolic vote, Mr. Swidsinski,

[2:59:39] and I think we can start working together on perhaps looking at another way of

[2:59:44] approaching this important thing. >> Okay. Thank you boys, let's

[2:59:48] move on. >> We need a vote, though. >> Oh, yeah. Okay, so 10.4

[2:59:53] mover and secondary, please. Ten four. Oh, no. Sorry. >> Ten four two vote. Just the

[2:59:58] vote. Just the vote. >> So who's in favor of ten? >> Four one.

[3:00:03] >> Thank you. Who's against? Thank you. >> Thank you.

[3:00:10] >> At this point. For the acquisition of. >> 10.6 to award a contract for

[3:00:25] the purchase of Genetec licenses for five years to secure max system for a total

[3:00:29] amount of $121,413.38. Taxes included. Genetec camera licenses enable each camera to

[3:00:37] be integrated into the video management system. They provide access to essential features

[3:00:41] such as recording, live viewing, event management, and centralized administration.

[3:00:46] >> At this point. The. Logistics for. An option. >> Seconder for 10.5, 10.6 and

[3:01:09] 10.7, please. >> District six. >> Second by Mike.

[3:01:14] >> District eight. >> All in favor? Thank you. >> So.

[3:01:21] >> 1111.1 is the filing of certificates of completion for the mandatory training

[3:01:25] concerning the municipal system in accordance with the regulation respecting the

[3:01:27] training of elected municipal officers, Council members must, within nine months of the start

[3:01:32] of their term, complete at least 7.5 hours of eligible training covering the following

[3:01:36] topics the functioning of the local and regional municipality and of municipal council

[3:01:42] relations between the municipalities, political and administrative bodies, budget

[3:01:47] management, municipal finances and taxation, and land use. Planning and development.

[3:01:56] >> Avec les propriétaires propriétaires. ET. Zero cadastre of Quebec. Correspond

[3:02:07] or sector. ET sur le Boulevard Brunswick, avec la ville de Vienne, Propriétaire du

[3:02:15] Boulevard, Brunswick et Hermitage, donnant sur le Boulevard, Brunswick de la. 0.6

[3:02:35] de tolerance qui sera avec des propriétés au sujet de six zero qui se trouvent. L'acces aux

[3:02:47] stationnement souterraines et au. Sans aucun guarantee de qualité et de la société pour

[3:02:58] les personnels du vendeur. >> And seconder for 11.2 plus. >> District six.

[3:03:07] >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski district. >> All in favor? Thank you.

[3:03:15] >> 12.1 to file the list of delegated staff changes for the month of July 2020.

[3:03:20] >> 6.3 approve. 11, six. >> And 12 point. >> So go ahead. Go ahead. We'll

[3:03:26] do okay. Go ahead. >> And 12.113 to approve the draft. Pointe Claire blue

[3:03:31] collar collective agreement applicable for the period of January 1st, 2024 to December

[3:03:34] 31st, 2029. The document resolves recurring issues with the application of the previous

[3:03:39] collective agreement and is fair to both parties. It is consistent with our strategic

[3:03:43] plan and is part of a sustainable development approach for the organization.

[3:03:47] >> Seconded for 12.2 and 12.3, please. >> Mike.

[3:03:53] >> District are. >> All in favor. Thank you. >> Collaboration avec le center

[3:04:04] de la ville de. Qui NE sont plus utiles pour des. Équipements sont remplacé par

[3:04:16] des équivalents plus récents. >> 14.2 to authorize the participation of the City of

[3:04:21] Pointe Claire and the group purchased for the 2026 2027 winter season. For the call for

[3:04:26] tenders prepared by the City of Montreal, for the supply and delivery of winter abrasives

[3:04:30] and deicing salt. In order to benefit from advantageous financial conditions. The city

[3:04:34] wishes to join this group purchasing agreement with the City of Montreal to procure

[3:04:38] deicing salt >> Required for its operations. The approximate annual quantity

[3:04:41] is about 6000 tons, but may vary upward or downward depending on weather conditions

[3:04:45] for the sake of administrative efficiency. Should annual requirements exceed 6006 6000

[3:04:51] tons, this quantity may be increased provided that the necessary funds are available.

[3:05:00] >> For automobile. >> And. 14.4 to exercise a renewal option provided for in

[3:05:12] the contract entered into with Service Inc. for the year 2026 and the amount of $42,894.87

[3:05:19] taxes included for Arboricultural works on the shores of Lake Saint Louis, as

[3:05:23] well as tree pruning works along the streets in anticipation of snow removal.

[3:05:30] >> Dans la Boissiere du Parc Cedar Park Heights at orange. De la Cote de mécanique des

[3:05:49] plus gros, lorsque des souches de plus de six centimeters la zone avec des arbres indigenes

[3:05:58] l'ensemble des bases. >> 14.6 over the contract for the treatment of ash trees by

[3:06:05] injection on the public and private domains for the 2026 season. To be controller Inc.

[3:06:10] with the 2027 season in option, this contract covers ash trees on both public and private

[3:06:16] property. The treatment of trees on private property remains at the discretion of

[3:06:19] each individual owner, and the contract is valued at $130,000. >> Do you have a mover and

[3:06:24] secondary for 14.1 through 14.6? >> Andrew Swidsinski, district four.

[3:06:30] >> Second by. >> Ludovic Matthews, district two.

[3:06:33] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> Can you spare the. Tax for. Pointe-Claire. Oliver. Urquhart.

[3:07:03] Les. Besoins. Sont. Les. Inspections. Hebdomadaires et de la qualité de avec un

[3:07:12] rapport produit. >> 15.2. Exercise. The Renewal of exercise. The renewal option

[3:07:19] provided for. In the contract entered into. With Group Inc. for the period of August 1st,

[3:07:25] 2026 to July 31st, 2027 in the amount of $35,975.68. Taxes included for extermination

[3:07:32] services for the City of Pointe-Claire. This contract provides for a monthly service

[3:07:36] for various buildings concerning the supply of groundhog cages, as well as

[3:07:39] pest, vermin and rodent control and extermination services. >> And installation of. A

[3:07:51] construction. Tax. >> Includes moved and seconded for 15.1 through 15.3.

[3:08:00] >> Eric Stewart, district seven. >> Second by. >> Mike Potvin, district eight.

[3:08:05] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> 16.1 to award a contract for the stabilization of the slope

[3:08:14] in the wetland area of Waverly Woods. Phase two to Les Entreprises Ventech, Inc. for a

[3:08:19] total amount of $136,670.78, taxes included. The work consists of constructing a

[3:08:26] vegetated rockfill to support the wetland banks along the length of 34m near the

[3:08:30] residence, located at 28 Waverly Avenue and creating basins in the center. Planting

[3:08:35] works are also required to help maintain the existing natural environment.

[3:08:40] >> Six point. ET sanitaire des diverse pour la pour un monton de. Modification contre le

[3:08:58] controle original. Malheureusement. >> Have a mover and seconder

[3:09:07] for 16.116.2. >> District one. >> Ludovic Matthews, District.

[3:09:14] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> So for 17.1, 17.4, 17, 11, 17, 13 and 1714, the persons

[3:09:25] present may address council on those items by all means. Merci. >> Good evening again. My name

[3:09:39] is Amanda Francis. I live at 107 Lakeshore and I'm in district two. Today I'd like to

[3:09:45] address the agenda point of 17.14, which are the minor exemptions related to the

[3:09:53] property at 106 Lakeshore. Specifically those related to the above ground surface area

[3:09:59] and vehicle access. So my husband and I moved into our home last May, just a month

[3:10:04] before welcoming our daughter. So although I've only been in that house for one year, I've

[3:10:09] actually been in the neighborhood my whole life. I grew up around the corner on

[3:10:13] Lakeview. It's always been a priority of mine to return to this neighborhood just because

[3:10:17] I loved it so much growing up. Pointe-Claire, especially district two, is a unique

[3:10:22] neighborhood thanks to its historic and unique homes, the mature trees and greenery, and

[3:10:26] the waterfront. I know this, as I said, I know this from growing up here, but it only

[3:10:31] takes someone an afternoon of visiting to truly appreciate how special of a place it is.

[3:10:36] With the 2021 amendment to the Cultural Heritage Act of Quebec, which we mentioned earlier this

[3:10:41] evening, cities created inventories of all homes built before 1940, which includes

[3:10:47] this property in question. These amendments and lists were implemented to highlight and

[3:10:52] protect older homes in the Montreal area and in the province. In doing this, by

[3:10:58] adding this house to the list, the City of Pointe-Claire recognizes that this is a

[3:11:03] special property. The Cultural Heritage Act, the heritage report commissioned for this

[3:11:08] property, and the demolition committee's conditions, which I'll get into in a little in a

[3:11:12] moment, all recognized that any replacement project must respect the historic character

[3:11:18] and built environment of this neighborhood. My question before council today is whether

[3:11:23] you can say with confidence that the proposed replacement project and the related

[3:11:28] exemptions reflect those same principles. As the mayor highlighted earlier this

[3:11:32] evening, we'll be photographing historic homes throughout the city this summer. Do we really

[3:11:36] want to photograph a historic home, only to tear it down and replace it with a structure

[3:11:40] that, as it stands, bears absolutely no resemblance to what is there today. The house

[3:11:45] at 106 Lakeshore was built in 1900, making it one of the oldest remaining homes in the

[3:11:51] area. In fact, it predates the incorporation of the city of Pointe-Claire, which happened

[3:11:55] in 1911, and the construction of Stuart Hall, which we just discussed how it is an integral

[3:12:01] part of the Pointe-Claire history. So it lastly sits beside the Maison de Gaulle,

[3:12:06] one of the oldest homes on the island of Montreal, built in the 1700s. In September 2025,

[3:12:13] the demolition committee did approve the demolition of this property, but with important

[3:12:18] conditions that I feel need highlighting. Tonight, the replacement project was

[3:12:23] required to give greater consideration to, and I quote, the immediate and surrounding

[3:12:28] built environment, particularly with respect to siting, height and massing, the preservation

[3:12:34] and enhancement of the existing heritage context, ensuring its special characters maintained

[3:12:39] through the integration and incorporation of architectural elements that reference the

[3:12:44] building being demolished. And third, the surrounding built environment characterized by

[3:12:49] houses sited close to the street, limited impervious surface coverage and driveway

[3:12:54] width, and natural landscaped front yards. The exemptions before council today should

[3:12:59] raise serious concerns because they appear to be in direct conflict with all of these

[3:13:05] objectives, it is clear no effort has been made to update the plans to reference the

[3:13:09] house being demolished. I also find it's helpful to look at the numbers. The existing house

[3:13:16] has an above ground area of approximately 239m². The minor exemption is requesting an area

[3:13:23] of 428m². That's 80% larger than the current home and significantly larger than the

[3:13:30] neighboring properties, including my own. How does this reflect the heritage of the

[3:13:35] current home? How does this address the condition related to massing and height? It is

[3:13:39] also 11% above the maximum permitted area. How is this considered minor? Another

[3:13:47] exemption request is for a driveway width of ten meters, a whopping 64% above the 6.1

[3:13:53] limit. Can we really consider that as minor? No houses in the area have driveways that width.

[3:13:59] How does this. How is this considered in the surrounding built environment? What house

[3:14:05] from the 1900s has a three car driveway? These are substantial increases, and I would ask the

[3:14:12] council to consider whether these should truly be considered as minor exemptions.

[3:14:16] Do these honestly address the conditions presented by the demolition committee in

[3:14:20] September? Lastly, there is an important environmental consideration consideration

[3:14:26] with recent flooding events and increasingly intense rainfall that has been discussed at

[3:14:30] length tonight, preserving permeable ground surfaces should be a priority in city

[3:14:35] and residential planning. Grass, mature trees and natural landscaping are not just

[3:14:41] esthetic features, they are part of the infrastructure that helps absorb stormwater and

[3:14:45] protect our homes. The surrounding properties demonstrate that it is possible

[3:14:49] to build and renovate, while maintaining the ground space that defines this neighborhood.

[3:14:53] I would like to note that in all of the flood discussions this evening, I did not hear a

[3:14:58] complaint from district two. So obviously something is working in our area. Pointe-Claire is

[3:15:05] 325 years of history, mature landscape, natural landscape, and unique character are among

[3:15:10] its greatest assets. Large scale developments that don't respect these characteristics,

[3:15:15] risk changing the very qualities that make this area what it is. These exemption

[3:15:20] requests will undermine the province's efforts to protect older homes, and will devalue

[3:15:24] the designation of a heritage home. This council has the opportunity and responsibility

[3:15:29] to preserve these qualities today and for future generations. I ask that you

[3:15:34] please consider these points when making your decision tonight. Thank you.

[3:15:39] >> Thank you. >> So. 17.1 consider a minor exemption request concerning

[3:15:47] the property located at 108 de la Pointe Clair Avenue on projected lots 6676070 and

[3:15:55] 6676069 of cadastre of Quebec. It is to authorize the construction of two single

[3:15:58] family dwellings, one on the projected lot 6676070 of the cadastre of Quebec, with a

[3:16:06] front setback of 6.2m, rather than the minimum required of 7.5 and one on the projected

[3:16:11] lot 6676069 of the cadastre du Quebec, with a front setback of 5.5m, rather than the minimum

[3:16:17] required of 7.5. >> And set. >> The mover and seconder for

[3:16:26] 7.1. 17.1, please. >> Lyric Matthews, District two. >> Second by.

[3:16:31] >> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor? Thank you. >> Said. De la Pointe Claire

[3:16:52] pour la construction d'une maison une familiale. >> For a seconder for 117.2.

[3:17:02] >> Pardon? Is this where I can speak on the matter, or is it at the derogation that I can

[3:17:07] speak on the matter? >> This is on 106.4 Avenue. >> Okay.

[3:17:12] >> Kelly Cullen, district three. >> Eric Stork, district seven. >> All in favor? Thank you.

[3:17:24] >> So. 17.3 consider the site Planning and Architectural Integration program plans with

[3:17:30] respect to the property located at 108 de la Pointe Claire Avenue, it is the construction

[3:17:34] of a single family dwelling, and the recommendation is to approve the site planning.

[3:17:40] >> For 17.3, please. >> In district six. >> Second by.

[3:17:48] >> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor? Thank you. >> Avenue del Mar concerns.

[3:18:06] 6668. Vous avez une recommendation favorable du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

[3:18:12] >> Just a. Mr. Mayor, with respect I want to just make a comment. Short comment. So

[3:18:17] merci beaucoup. Who stayed this late? Much appreciated. The. 66786 pour le center de dans ma

[3:18:32] okay. A propos de l'hotel derniere. AU residence q g. Just want to take one minute,

[3:18:44] one second to read something from my pamphlet, which was under quality of life, said to

[3:18:50] restore and protect the commercial zoning of the Del Mar shopping Center. So that's

[3:18:55] the reasons why I'll be voting no for this one and for the other resolutions. Thank you.

[3:19:02] >> Can I speak to this one briefly as well? I'd just like to say a couple of things.

[3:19:08] First of all, I share what councilor reasons and as well as the proposal that it would

[3:19:15] be better to preserve the commercial services by having a mixed use building instead of a

[3:19:21] wholly, wholly residential building. I would make a very quick procedural note, which is

[3:19:26] that this is now the the third property that we are withdrawing from the interim

[3:19:32] control bylaw. Over the course of this mandate. And I, I generally agree with those who

[3:19:39] have expressed the criticism that we should be revising and updating our urban planning

[3:19:45] before moving on all these projects, and I think a lot of them can can wait the other. I

[3:19:50] think the remaining six months that I imagine it will take to do that, but I have a much more

[3:19:57] simple procedural issue, which is that, in my view, the proper way to proceed should be to

[3:20:03] withdraw these properties from the interim control bylaw before the projects are

[3:20:09] proposed, because in this situation that we have here. If we approve this project, our

[3:20:18] approval will create rights for the developer, where if we were to go later, 2 or 3 months from

[3:20:24] now and refuse to remove it from the interim control bylaw, well, they'd say, well, you

[3:20:29] approved it. Then I had to spend so much on doing it. You have no business doing this. So

[3:20:34] I believe the more effective way of doing it would be the other way around. And it also

[3:20:39] creates a dilemma for councilors looking to vote for these proposals based on their

[3:20:46] merits and on the zoning that currently exists. Because I would look at this and I would

[3:20:51] say if it was done in the proper order, my approach would be to vote against withdrawing

[3:20:58] it from the interim control bylaw, because I believe that we should rezone it for a mixed

[3:21:04] use. That would require first floor commercial and allow the DEP and ER and the daycare to

[3:21:10] remain. But once the zoning is changed and it's been withdrawn from the interim control bylaw,

[3:21:17] and I have to consider it as a purely residential zoning, then I probably wouldn't have a

[3:21:22] problem with the kind of townhouses that are being built. But I'm now in a situation

[3:21:27] where I can't really proceed in that manner. And so that's why I'm voting against it as well.

[3:21:32] Thank you. >> Comment from me as well, Mr. Mayor, please. So I share some

[3:21:38] of those procedural concerns outlined just this moment by Councilor Swidsinski, making it

[3:21:46] rather challenging for me to to vote clearly on on this particular project. And I'll be

[3:21:53] voting against. >> It. Okay. Can we have a mover and seconder?

[3:21:59] >> Can I add something I just wanted to say regarding this project that I too would have

[3:22:06] loved mixed use project on on this current strip mall. It's, it's one of the last remaining

[3:22:15] ones within our inner suburbia. I tried to fight hard to, to get the Athens Pizza Strip mall

[3:22:24] to remain somewhat mixed use, but due to the fact that this project will at least provide

[3:22:32] townhomes instead of single family homes, I am somewhat willing to accept that dilemma.

[3:22:40] >> Thank you. >> Can we have a mover and seconded for 17.1 then please?

[3:22:47] Sorry, where are my 17.4? Yeah. >> District are. >> Second by.

[3:22:54] >> Kelly Cullen, district three. >> All in favor please. >> Please hold. Okay.

[3:23:00] >> Who is it? Eric. Kelly. >> Yeah. >> Claudine, Mike.

[3:23:06] >> And those against. >> All those against one. Two. Perfect.

[3:23:10] >> Okay. >> 17.5 consider the site plan and architectural integration

[3:23:17] program plans with respect to the property at 477 Del Mar for the units one and eight facing

[3:23:22] the Cameron Crescent Avenue. It is a new construction single family townhouses.

[3:23:29] >> Set. Avenue D, Cameron Crescent, Nouvelle Construction et des maisons, une famille.

[3:23:48] >> And 17.7 to consider site planning and architectural integration program plans with

[3:23:52] respect to the property at 477 Del Mar for units three and six facing the Cameron Crescent

[3:23:57] Avenue. Also for new construction, single family townhouses said.

[3:24:07] >> Del Mar. Avenue del Mar for new construction. >> Familial 17.9 to consider

[3:24:15] site planning and architectural integration program plans with respect to the property at 477

[3:24:19] Delmar Avenue for units two, four, five and seven facing Del Mar Avenue, which are as well

[3:24:25] new construction and single family townhouses. >> Two point. Six del Mar pour

[3:24:37] une nouvelle construction des maisons familiale. Vous avez des recommandations favorable

[3:24:46] for ensemble des femmes de la porte du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

[3:24:52] >> Can I do a grouping from 17.5 to 17.1? So can I have a mover and seconder for 17.5 to

[3:24:59] 17.10 please. >> Includes in the district are. >> Second by.

[3:25:04] >> District Trois. >> Thank you. All in favor. Keep your hands. Up including

[3:25:12] Mike, Eric and Kelly. Okay. Not in favor Andrew Bruno and Mike Butler. Thank you.

[3:25:29] >> 1711 to consider a minor exemption request concerning the property at 133 de la Baie

[3:25:33] de Valois Avenue. It is to authorize the construction of a single family dwelling without

[3:25:37] a garage, whereas the new single family dwelling must have a garage with exterior

[3:25:41] stair access to the basement with a side setback of 1.8m, rather than the minimum

[3:25:45] required of two meters, and with a facade width of seven meters, rather than the minimum

[3:25:50] required of ten meters. >> Moved and seconded for 17.11, please.

[3:25:59] >> Donc pour. Bruno Tremblay. >> De l'Abbaye de Valois pour une nouvelle construction.

[3:26:21] >> Okay moved and seconded for 171117. >> District six.

[3:26:28] >> Ludovic Matthews district. >> All in favor? Thank you. >> 17.13 consider minor

[3:26:38] exemption request concerning the property at 11 Auto Plaza Avenue. It is to authorize a

[3:26:42] combined total area of 25.22m² for three signs, rather than the maximum permitted of 18.6m².

[3:26:50] A monument sign with a height of 3.66m, rather than the maximum permitted of 2.5m, and

[3:26:58] a framed wall sign located on the second floor level. Whereas only signs displaying detached

[3:27:02] letters without a frame are permitted. >> Moved and seconded for 17.13,

[3:27:08] please. >> District six. >> All in favor? Oh, sorry.

[3:27:14] >> David Matthews district. >> All in favor? It's been a long.

[3:27:30] >> Concernant la propriété au chemin du Bois du Lac Lakeshore pour permettre une famille avec

[3:27:40] une marge. De. Meter carry. C'est un porch on dans la marge de la maximum permet de 1.6m et

[3:27:58] une. Superficie de maximum et. Maximum permet de et vous avez une recommandation favorable du

[3:28:11] comité consultatif d'urbanisme. >> The owner have a chance to speak, hear or know. The owner

[3:28:20] of a chance to speak. >> We. Des dans les soins pouvez commenter.

[3:28:33] >> Yes, he can speak. Yes, he can speak. >> Hello, mayor.

[3:28:40] >> And the. >> Council members, regarding the points that was brought up

[3:28:45] about regarding the margin and everything that was about the the the stairs, that was a

[3:28:51] recommendation by the the city because they wanted an implementation to be uniform

[3:28:56] with the, the house around the property. That was what you had requested us to do initially.

[3:29:03] That was something what the city had, urbanism had done. And that's what they wanted to

[3:29:06] add in a specification. Furthermore, regarding the patrimonial. As you know, the

[3:29:11] demolition was done and accepted and the province of Quebec had authorized the

[3:29:16] demolition for the property, considering that it was not patrimonial and had no historic

[3:29:21] value. And there was also, again, a lot of documentation done and expertise done showing

[3:29:26] that the house was no longer viable for reconstruction. Furthermore, we had we had done

[3:29:32] multiple changes from the for for the house, from our initial of what we wanted. We all have.

[3:29:39] We made multiple changes to try to bring back what the initial house has currently. We changed

[3:29:45] the roofing. We changed the size. We changed the windows. We made multiple. As you know,

[3:29:52] it took me a year and a half, one year more, more than that, a year and seven months. Now,

[3:29:57] considering last month to come to this point, we made a lot of sacrifices, me and my wife, to

[3:30:01] be able to have to present this house and to be able to live in Pointe-Claire, we did consider

[3:30:06] everybody around us, even though everybody talks about the two houses beside me, but

[3:30:11] no one talks about the house right in front of me, which is a massive house, very beautiful,

[3:30:15] very modern, but no one seems to think about about that house. When they think about my house,

[3:30:21] I have to be uniform with everybody beside me, but I can't be uniform with the one

[3:30:25] in front of me. I still did a lot of changes, put a lot of money to be here. And these

[3:30:30] people were talking about having a flood for the last two years. I haven't I don't have a

[3:30:35] house since two years now, almost, and I probably won't have it. Even if I get a

[3:30:39] positive approval today, it will still take me a year to get to where I need to be to be

[3:30:44] able to move into this house. So I'm sure you know the financial stress that is to

[3:30:48] have to pay two mortgages and still not know if your house is going to be built. I made

[3:30:53] multiple sacrifices and we did all we could. We went through all the steps to be able to

[3:30:58] reach here. We tried to appease everybody. We had the CCU, the demolition committee. We did

[3:31:02] everything we can to be able to implement us and start a life with us in Pointe-Claire. I

[3:31:07] don't know what else you can ask for us. The only thing we're asking from you is to

[3:31:11] have a little more space above our garage, which is 352ft² above the garage. There is no

[3:31:17] change on the square footage on the grass. We are doing exactly the square footage required by

[3:31:22] the city, required by the CCU. So the house that we reduced the house to fit your

[3:31:28] recommendations. The only thing we want is that square footage on top of the garage, which

[3:31:33] just changed nothing regarding the the green grass. So and regarding the marjaavaan all

[3:31:38] these things, that was a recommendation from you guys saying that you wanted to have

[3:31:42] a uniform look of it because if not, it could have been have a wider front frontage compared

[3:31:47] to the other houses. Regarding the garage thing, is this because I was hoping to because

[3:31:52] it's going to be very tight for me to come out. It's more of a question of security. And the

[3:31:57] second thing is that you wanted to have the garage a specific size. So to be able to fit that

[3:32:02] recommendation, I turned the house to the side and put the garage on the side of the house

[3:32:06] to be able to, to, to fit the minimum requirements for the garage. But by doing that, I

[3:32:11] have to make the garage wider for the to permit the car to turn around and to be able to

[3:32:16] get out of my house. So all these things are all things that you had put upon me, and

[3:32:21] all the things that you had put restrictions on me. And I worked hard and tried to find a

[3:32:25] solution to make it happen. So after this point, unless you don't want me to build and you

[3:32:30] don't want to, how to be continued like the way it is, and you don't want us to live

[3:32:35] in Pointe-Claire. I think that's the point we are at right now. So I hope you

[3:32:39] consider all of these points because we made major efforts. If ever you saw the initial

[3:32:43] project we submitted, you can see how much effort we made to come to the the project we are

[3:32:47] presenting today. >> Thank you. >> My husband. Can you go up to

[3:32:51] the mic though? Because people. Thank you. >> Just to add, he touched on

[3:32:56] it, but we worked extremely hard with the CCU committee to address all of your points, and

[3:33:02] they approved our project. We went through all of those concerns the heritage, the size,

[3:33:09] the look, everything, and they said it fits directly with the neighborhood. And they're

[3:33:14] specialists, they're urbanists. So I just want to reiterate that because that was a big

[3:33:20] undergoing on our end to work with them and collaborate with them also yourselves to get to

[3:33:24] this point. And I understand the concerns, but we have reiterated it with your council

[3:33:30] prior to this and the CCU, and have done a lot of work. And we we know these concerns, but

[3:33:36] we've addressed them all already. >> Thank you. No, you've

[3:33:43] already had your chance. Right. Okay. >> Mr. Mayor, I suggest that we

[3:33:50] that you vote on 17.14. >> Then can I say something about it then?

[3:34:07] >> Can I have a mover, a second number 17.14, please. >> 1714 Kelly Thorstad Cullen,

[3:34:13] district three. >> Eric Storch, district seven. >> Thank you. All in favor? You

[3:34:20] want to speak? Go ahead. >> So I just want to start. I'm sorry. It's going to probably

[3:34:26] be in French. Is that okay? Okay. Une lettre d'un citoyen qui NE vous etes ici

[3:34:37] aujourd'hui? Mais qui est une lettre au service de la graveyard. Donc je voulais. AU

[3:34:50] service de de Pointe-Claire, Madame. Je suis pas la présence de ma grande preoccupation

[3:34:56] concernant la demande de derogation présentée pour la propriété au saint. Germain,

[3:35:04] Macau et propriété ou Avenue Hillcrest. Tout d'abord apres la demolition de la terrain

[3:35:13] vacant permet une nouvelle maison en respecting parfaitement le reglement de la

[3:35:19] ville a un plan de maison de NE tenant pas compte des obligations et reglement en

[3:35:26] vigueur pour demander des demander des derogations. Tout azimuth particulierement a la

[3:35:37] demande d'augmentation de la superficie de planchette. Auteur. UN desequilibrio par

[3:35:41] rapport aux deux residencies de Chakotay, en particulier la maison Patrimonial et détail

[3:35:46] modest, qui NE pourra jamais et détruit. Une erreur est une procédure d'exception, un

[3:35:53] privilege accordée par le Conseil municipal et doit etre et surtout, Elle doit corriger

[3:36:03] une situation ou l'application strict de reglement prejudice sérieux. Dans le contexte de la

[3:36:14] prize de urbanistes, IL est décrire ainsi une derogation peut etre accordé seulement si

[3:36:19] l'application de reglement et de l'auteur cause unprejudiced aux demandeurs. Si Elle respect

[3:36:25] les objectifs de urbanistes la seule prejudice demandeurs si en un de vouloir construire une

[3:36:33] belle et la superficie et de la pour respecter les marchés minimal avant je souhaite la

[3:36:39] présence du Conseil municipal lors de la réunion des réunion pourraient je vous acceptez

[3:36:48] Madame Distinguer. Donc sa c'était un demi constituent du district des et pour ma part en

[3:37:00] termes de fonction de conseiller, selon le reglement sur les communautés en vigueur,

[3:37:06] nous devons considérer la durée. Du du reglement de Pointe Claire, apres avoir la vie du

[3:37:17] comité consultatif du sujet le Conseil municipal accordée une derogation au disposition de

[3:37:24] reglement de et des autres, celles qui sont relatifs a l'histoire et a la densité

[3:37:29] occupation du sol pour un la strict conformité soit impossible du l'application de

[3:37:37] reglement et pour un prejudice a la demande de la derogation et la derogation NE peut pas

[3:37:46] les propriétaires des droits de propriété. Des qui sont en avant nous, je suis un accord

[3:38:02] avec la derogation sur le Mark Gavin, qui respect les deux batiments voisins. Je crois

[3:38:11] aussi pour les politiques et les. Moyens et pour la delegation du. On a la rue et

[3:38:23] au garage. Je crois de besoin sécuritaire pour voir. Je pense, c'est a un bon decision,

[3:38:37] monsieur. OU Marcel. Pour trouver un moi et designer de quatre q g pour trouver un

[3:38:51] respect, le reglement de. De la ville de Pointe-Claire. SE je vous vous comme. Citoyen de

[3:39:03] Pointe Claire un. ET si je avoir un bon rapport avec vous, c'est vraiment pour quand vous

[3:39:12] je suis pour l'exploitation du projet, mais contre le joue on superficie de superficie. Donc

[3:39:21] pour cette raison, je dois contre merci. >> Any other comments? We're

[3:39:26] good. Okay. Can I have a mover and a seconder, please? >> Just 417.

[3:39:31] >> Okay, good. Okay. Grab a vote in favor, please. Show your hands, please. You have to

[3:39:40] vote. Please. >> Who's against? >> Please put your hands up in

[3:39:46] favor. Keep them up. Eric. >> Close in. Yep. Okay. >> Missus. Councilor Gillon.

[3:39:56] >> Not in favor. Andrew. Bruno. Thank you. >> C donc.

[3:40:09] >> Sorry. >> She's she's absent. So she cannot vote.

[3:40:16] >> She can't vote. Okay, guys, this is not a place for debate. I'm sorry. We've taken the vote.

[3:40:23] >> 17.15 consider the Site Planning and Architecture Integration program plans with

[3:40:26] respect to the property at 106 Balzac Lake Shore Road. Avec un recommendation favorable. The

[3:40:33] Planning Advisory Committee for New Construction. >> Got a mover and seconder for

[3:40:38] 1715, please. >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district three.

[3:40:52] >> Second by. >> Eric Storch. >> Discussion with regards to

[3:40:56] this one that I oppose it as well, and I think it's important in these instances to

[3:41:03] consider that there is a heritage character to this neighborhood. The building next

[3:41:06] to it was built in 1760, and the project developers, whether they intend to move into this

[3:41:17] new home or not. Are perfectly capable of building a larger one that respects the existing

[3:41:25] zoning and not going down the route of creating a Laval style McMansion, which is what is

[3:41:31] proposed here. And so that is why I would oppose this as well. Thank you.

[3:41:36] >> Thank you. Okay. All in favor, please. Eric, Mike Kelly, Madame La Mer, all against.

[3:41:49] Thank you, thank you. >> 1716 Kings Point size. Kings point size set point size. Set

[3:42:02] point size. For. >> And. 17.17 to consider site planning and architecture

[3:42:12] integration program plans with respect to the property at three Cedar Avenue for exterior

[3:42:15] renovations. And both 1716 and 1717 have favorable recommendations from the PSC

[3:42:20] Committee. >> Delegates 17, 16, 17, 17 Mover and a second, please.

[3:42:29] >> Mike, >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski.

[3:42:34] >> All in favor? >> Thank you. >> Thank you that.

[3:42:44] >> Site. >> Mover and secondary for 17.18.

[3:42:50] >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district three. >> Second by.

[3:42:54] >> Eric Storch, district seven. >> All in favor? Thank you. >> 17.19 consider site planning

[3:43:04] and architectural Integration program plans with respect to the property at 32 Killarney

[3:43:08] Gardens, it is for exterior renovations and there is a favorable recommendation from

[3:43:11] the PSC Committee. >> Laurelwood. Déja approuvé vous avec une recommendation

[3:43:23] favorable de Comité consultatif d'urbanisme. >> And 17.21. Consider Site

[3:43:27] Planning and architectural Integration program plans with respect to the property at 127

[3:43:30] Maitland Avenue. It is for extension and a renovation and also a favorable recommendation

[3:43:37] from the PSC mover. >> Second seven until 17.24 okay 170.12 consider

[3:43:48] architectural. Pour une nouvelle construction vis a une recommendation favorable du

[3:43:55] Comité consultatif d'urbanisme 17.23. >> Consider the Site Planning

[3:43:59] and Architecture Integration program plans with respect to the property at 133 Queen

[3:44:03] Avenue for exterior renovations, and also a favorable recommendation from the PSC.

[3:44:09] >> Said. Implementation and integration at La Propriété AU. Canadian et Le Pigeon Club,

[3:44:19] cafe commerciale vous avez une recommandation du comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

[3:44:26] >> Secondary from 17.19 through 1724. >> District A.

[3:44:34] >> Second by. >> Ludovic Matthews, district two.

[3:44:36] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> And 18.1 to exercise the renewal option provided for in

[3:44:44] the contract entered into with Senior Glass Canada, Inc. for the period of mid-October 2020.

[3:44:52] Six. Sorry, there's a typo to mid April 2027 in the amount of $376,336.17, taxes included for

[3:45:02] the rental of a refrigerated outdoor rink and outdoor skating oval. The second

[3:45:07] renewal year of the contract, the rental of the Zamboni, is added to the contract for an

[3:45:11] amount of $20,546.03, taxes included as well. >> Second, for 18.1, please.

[3:45:19] >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen District 12 district. >> Mr. mayor, may I speak to

[3:45:24] this? I apologize, I didn't give my position prior in caucus because I was not there,

[3:45:30] but I'll be voting against this for the same reasons I felt over the last couple of years

[3:45:34] on this project. Thank you. >> Thank you. Also. All in favor? And against. Thank you.

[3:45:46] Andrew two thank you. >> Closure. >> Closure and seconder.

[3:45:55] >> District six. >> Second by. >> Mike Potvin, district with.

[3:46:00] >> All in favor. Thank you. Thank you for being patient everybody. It was a long night.

[3:46:07] Thank you.

2026-07-07 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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